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Transmission: Subject: Application: Issue Date: Honda 5 Speed Kills the Engine in Drive, No Reverse Honda/Acura August, 2014 Technical Bulletin #1634 Honda 5 Speed BB • Page 1 of 6 Copyright © 2014 ATRA All Rights Reserved Kills the Engine in Drive, No Reverse Normally Open (N.O.) Normally Closed (N.C.) These vehicles have normally closed solenoids. Killing the engine with the converter clutch and loss of reverse engagement will be the issues if we install the wrong solenoids. These normally open and closed solenoids are similar in appearance. Applications Transmission 07-12 Odyssey P36A/B36A 08-12 Accord V6 B97A/P79A (2010 Only) 05-07 Accord Hybrid MVRA 10-12 Crosstour V6 BBSA (AWD) PN4A (FWD) 09-12 Pilot PN3A (AWD) PN4A (FWD) 09-12 Ridgeline PSFA 07-09 MDX BYFA 07-11 RDX BWEA 05-10 RL MJBA 07-11 TL BDHA 10-11 TSX MM7A

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Transmission:Subject:

Application:Issue Date:

Honda 5 SpeedKills the Engine in Drive, No ReverseHonda/AcuraAugust, 2014

Technical Bulletin #1634

Honda 5 Speed

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Kills the Engine in Drive, No Reverse

Normally Open (N.O.) Normally Closed (N.C.)

These vehicles have normally closed solenoids. Killing the engine with the converter clutch and loss of reverse engagement will be the issues if we install the wrong solenoids.

These normally open and closed solenoids are similar in appearance.

Applications Transmission07-12 Odyssey P36A/B36A

08-12 Accord V6 B97A/P79A (2010 Only)05-07 Accord Hybrid MVRA

10-12 Crosstour V6 BBSA (AWD) PN4A (FWD)09-12 Pilot PN3A (AWD) PN4A (FWD)

09-12 Ridgeline PSFA07-09 MDX BYFA07-11 RDX BWEA

05-10 RL MJBA07-11 TL BDHA

10-11 TSX MM7A

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Solenoid Identification

Honda 5 SpeedKills the Engine in Drive, No Reverse

Shift Solenoid B

Shift Solenoid AShift Solenoid C

Shift Solenoid D(Lock Up)

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#1634 Honda 5 Speed Kills the Engine in Drive, No Reverse

Reverse Hydraulics Normal OperationDuring normal reverse operation shift valve A and the reverse control valve are in the shifted position. The reverse control valve opens line oil to the servo valve. This strokes the servo valve into the reverse position. Shift valve A allows line oil from the servo valve to apply the 5th clutch.

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Reverse Hydraulics With Normally Open Solenoids (Wrong Parts Installed)

When N.O. solenoids are installed oil is blocked from getting to the servo valve and the 5th clutch. In reverse the computer commands shift solenoid “A” ON and shift solenoid D ON. This will close the solenoids and the servo control valve and shift valve A will stay in the unshifted position.

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#1634 Honda 5 Speed Kills the Engine in Drive, No Reverse

Lockup Hydraulics Normal OperationDuring normal operation the lockup valves are in the unshifted postion. When lockup is commanded by the controller the solenoid opens and flows fluid to the lockup shift valve.

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Lockup Hydraulics with a Normally Open Solenoid(Wrong Parts Installed)

The normally open solenoid flows pressure to the lockup shift valve. This blocks converter charge oil from releasing the converter clutch. The applied converter clutch kills the engine when put into gear.