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magicguy89

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I just started pickpocket magic and right now I SUCK, ive tried it on my friends around school a few times and everytime I try they always feel my fingers in their pocket. How can I get to where they can't feel my hand? Also, wat aresome tricks I can use to distract them and give me an excuse to put my hands there. I mainly like going for people'swallet in their back pocket. I already have the book "Mastering the Art of Pickpocketing" but it didn't really do much forme besides the basic watch steal. Any tips are greatly appreciated as I would like to become better at this.

Sorry I meant the movie "Matering the Art of Pickpocketing"

samuelchong

Loyal userPenang

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>> every time I try they always feel my fingers in their pocket. >> How can I get to where they can't feel my hand? You need to dull their sensation... Jim Ravel's book dedicate a chapter on touching which is essential in making your subject sensation dull...

>> wat are some tricks I can use to distract them >> give me an excuse to put my hands there. There are many tricks that could fullfill you request In Jim Ravel's book, Trick For Trade chapter he gave you 40 ideas on using common, classic effects to do your pickpocket.

>> I mainly like going for people's wallet in their back pocket. You can use Jim Ravel's Million Dollar Wallet Steal it really makes you wallet steal a lot easier James Coat's The Encyclopedia Of Pickpocketing Vol 2 DVD teaches you most of the wallet steal technique that you find...

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>> I already have the book "Mastering the Art of Pickpocketing" Like what Ricki Dunn mention in his book.. You need a reason to get near your subject, a reason to touch your subject, a logical reason for diverting attention away... Finding the reason isn't hard, you just need to put in some thoughts...

The DVD only teaches you how the methodology only The knowledge in this DVD is not sufficient ehough to make you a pickpocket.

You need more books and DVDs to help you to be a better pickpocket Try getting Ricki Dunn's & Jim Ravel's book first..www.samuelchong.com www.youtube.com/user/samuelscmonte

magicguy89

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Thnx, ill look for them

disneywld

Special userDenver, CO598 Posts

Make sure that you have permission when you try your stuff. Hate to see you in magic jail. There was an article in thenewspaper last year about someone practicing pickpocketing - his excuse was that he was a magician in training.Unfortunately he had a criminal record and was sentanced to 1 year. I clipped the article - funny...The Magic of Christopher Manos www.safetymagicshows.com

adgnycRead the book "Whiz Mob" by David W. Maurer (http://tinyurl.com/2khhys) to get a feel for how "real" pickpocketsoperate. Ricki Dunn's "The Professional Stage Pickpocket" looks helpful (http://www.hanklee.org/xcart/product.php?productid=8388). And, apparently, the instructional videotapes by the British pickpocket James Freedman are thebest around at the moment (http://www.pickpocket.co.uk/p_secrets_dvd.htm). Also, take a look at Apollo Robbinsand Shoot Ogawa's Cultural X-Change DVDs. Robbins, who is probably the best in the world at what he does, doesn;t

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Loyal userNew York City

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tip any of his pickpocketing methods in these DVDs, but his way of thinking and approach to physical choreography isinvaluable. Especially the trick "Pits to Pocket," which is a masterpiece of choreography and attention management.Good luck.Adam Green New York, NY

jayaweera

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'Magicguy89'

It seems that a lot of people have given you some advice on pickpocketing.

You need to read some books and watch some dvd's. People are always going to feel you - however the art ofdistraction is the most important. Watch some of Greg Wilson on the spot footage to get some idea.http://www.youtube.com/jayjayentertainment

Watch some of my footage to get a idea too.

JaY-JaYBe Unique - Be Creative - Be Yourself www.jayjayentertainment.com

jolly12

New userPEI, Canada

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Samuelchong thanks for all the info, I came on here today to look for some tips on this and those are great!

Jason Fox

New userWashington, D.C.

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Mind you I’m not master, but I do well for myself

1) Make sure everyone knows you are an entertainer first, and NEVER EVER do this type of entertainment tohecklers. You are better off ignoring all hecklers; things can go very wrong very fast (Esp if they are drunk)

2) Learn the trick "Quick Silver" on Gregory Wilson's on the spot - it's PUT pocket techniques that are employed here,and that will help you understand the mechanics of direction of attention. There is also some playful pick pocketingwith sunglasses on the DVD

3) Start with another form of magic first so you get the basics of misdirection PDF creado por htmlapdf.com a través de la Interfaz de programación

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5) Don’t practice on your friends, practice with one friend.

6) I forget was 6 way for.

7) Start with the watch steal - I gave all my relatives leather band watches for Christmas one year full filling twoneeds at once, their need for a gift and my need for unknowing volunteers. If you tell people that you are going topick their pockets or you are learning pick pocketing they will always be more guarded, but you can use themisdirection of telling someone that you are going to take his wallet but take his watch instead.

8) Study KINO from pickup artists like Mystery - this is the action of touching someone without creeping them out.

9) Be interesting - Misdirection is not about distraction it's about occupying the target's mind. You can do this bygetting the mark's attention with magic, and detail oriented patter. Quick silver is a great trick because it is stunningand also directs attention to various places

10) be patient - at first you are going to be thinking about the mechanics and this will show through whatever elseyou are saying and will arouse suspicion, wait for key points to happen. The high points of emotion, the climax of atrick, the beginning of an instruction, the eruption of laughter, a gigantic fart....just kidding hahaha.

11) Study a pro in action - personally Coats gives me a weird vibe, check out Apollo Robbins on you tube. There areplenty of videos. Apollo tells them he's going to burgle them, but it's not about that. He does take things, but thevictim....I mean volunteer is enjoying them self the whole time.

12) Pick pocketing is one skill that you'll have to keep in your back pocket and keep working on when you can getaway with it. I learned the watch steal like 5 years ago and use it on rare occasions.

13) Lucky 13....take improv classes to get your quick wit, laughter is the best misdirection.mago.niko

Loyal userAthens, Greece

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Hi guys.. I learned the very basic of pick pocket from Gregory Wilson's on the spot.. As there are a lot of informationin here and got a little bit confused, could someone point me in a good book or dvd (i prefer the book) where I couldlearn some pick pocket or misdirection? Thank you very much..Searching for the magic s ide of life...

jleveyDear Magno.niko.

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Inner circleMontreal, Quebec,

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The list is long... As a start, please consider running a few searches right here on the Café to pick up such advice.

Then, after some initial searching, re-post your question, letting us know what you already know about (from yoursearches) so as not to have repetitive info.

JonathanJonathan Max & Maxine Entertainment Magicians with a touch of comedy! ___________________________________ www.maxmagician.com www.mindreadershow.com www.monsieurmagic.com

michaelwriting

New userKenosha, WI

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We had some pickpocket 'training' several years ago. I didn't use it much, but here are a few things I remember.

- The large motion conceals the small motion. This is a basic magic principle. To prevent someone from 'feeling' thatlight touch on their back pocket, apply pressure to another area on their body. Using your arm to 'press' on their backwill make your fingers in their pocket less noticeable.

- Misdirection. Again you need to either have a purpose for touching them (such as doing an interactive trick), or youjust need to come off as an extremely friendly (but preferably not creepy) person.

- There are often several steps involved. You can't do it all in one step. There is preparation and the final execution. Ifyou try to rush things or 'force' it all to happen at once, it will be unnatural and will seem like you are up tosomething, even if they don't know what it is. Allow the process to take the time it takes.

I'm no expert, but just offering some thoughts.dukun

New user55 Posts

Watch the emc 2010..

Apollo Robbin..

Inspiring..

parmenionWatch the video from the website of professionnal pickpocket like Bob Arno; http://www.bobarno.com/

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Inner circleSwitzerland/Zürich

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Christophe Ambre: http://www.pick-pocket.ch Michael Halvarson: http://www.halvarson.com/en/ etc.. Even if some of the video are edited you'll learn lot of things if you watch the video carefully.“I love talking about nothing. It is the only thing I know anything about.” <BR>Oscar Wilde experimentaliste <br> <BR>Artist pickpocket Profess ional <BR> <BR>Looking for the best book test in French? send me a PM!

dukun

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On 2011-08-15 04:46, parmenion wrote: Watch the video from the website of professionnal pickpocket like Bob Arno; http://www.bobarno.com/ Christophe Ambre: http://www.pick-pocket.ch Michael Halvarson: http://www.halvarson.com/en/ etc.. Even if some of the video are edited you'll learn lot of things if you watch the videocarefully.

nice share dude..

and watch Borra too..

cheersLaurensMalter

Regular userBelgium

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I've seen a pickpocket in a Belgian casino recently (Tom Saeys, AKA Tom Bibo) and what I noticed, he 'distracts' hispoor volunteer in an extreme way (it's part comedy, so it's a good thing), he goes for the wrist watch, wallet, cellphones, some money and I've seen him try and undo a tie, but it didn't really work The other show he succesfullygotten the guy's belt off without him noticing..

I think if you bring a person on stage, he'll be so nervous that you can grab anything without him noticing, then again,talking, asking questions, putting them 'on the spot' all seem to work very well.. It's just a thought I've been having

parmenionBut it's really pickpocketing? I mean, audience are impressed but they think like you did so they think "ok, it works like this, not so difficult" Now if the pickpocket is more smooth and touch touch, push, hold, talk for nothing all the time and steal the

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Inner circleSwitzerland/Zürich

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spectator without too much emphasis and movement, this man steasl the show for the audience! For me, pickpocket steal with "elephant comedy" and too much spectator move " go there,no go here, hmm yeahperhaps there was better", they're not pickpocket“I love talking about nothing. It is the only thing I know anything about.” <BR>Oscar Wilde experimentaliste <br> <BR>Artist pickpocket Profess ional <BR> <BR>Looking for the best book test in French? send me a PM!

Nikki78

Loyal userGermany258 Posts

Hey guys.

Just wanted to ask the same question and than I found this thread. Great tips and advices!

Thank you very much.

I really appreciate it

Cheers

Nikki

I'm not a native speaker - please ignore the mistakes

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theconjuror

New user50 Posts

Wow, yuo guys work with precision, heh... I've been wantign to get into pickpocketing but I don't think I could be slickenough for that.

BradleyDuncan

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On 2007-11-05 15:49, magicguy89 wrote: I just started pickpocket magic and right now I SUCK, ive tried it on my friends aroundschool a few times and every time I try they always feel my fingers in their pocket. Howcan I get to where they can't feel my hand? Also, wat are some tricks I can use todistract them and give me an excuse to put my hands there. I mainly like going forpeople's wallet in their back pocket. I already have the book "Mastering the Art ofPickpocketing" but it didn't really do much for me besides the basic watch steal. Any tips

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Posted: Dec 2, 2013 09:12 pm 0

are greatly appreciated as I would like to become better at this.

Sorry I meant the movie "Matering the Art of Pickpocketing"

I have been playing with pickpocketing lately...I've been watching some videos on it etc and realised the best way todo it is in conjunction with a magic effect. If you take their focus and attention and direct it toward the magic trickthen that's where their focus is and that's what they will be concentrating on. If for example you tell them to hold adeck in their hand, then put their other hand on top, then stretch both of their arms out in front of them and tellthem to focus on the deck and imagine all the cards going back into order, or imagine their card now reversing in thedeck, triumph etc then you have the perfect opportunity to stand behind them. Then in asking them to take a stepforward for example you can dip into their pocket and they will walk themselves out of wallets, phones, keys etc

I am also quite tall so putting my arm over someone as I greet them is easy and at this point you can easily removesunglasses, pens from pocket protectors etc...

lldbll

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I can't wait to lean this

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