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IFD10Chat Recap – 24 November 2010 Topic: Doesn’t really matter – we never actually got there! Join us next week – 1 DECEMBER 2010 – Tourism and What’s in It for YOU! 12 noon ET (-‐5 GMT) @ http://todaysmeet.com/IFD10Chat HOW DID WE DO ON LAST WEEK’S GOALS?
• I'm finally moving forward with revisions to my website, but have remained unproductive with my blog -‐ shame, shame
• I've just started my blog/first iteration of my website. Lots of work...stressed! • Continuing to submit proposals & take on new projects. • I've gotten a lot of writing done, have done less well with my contacting prospects
program, but will keep at that. • Gross up 50 per cent over 2009 -‐ with 2 months of billing to go. Yay!!!
WE STARTED WITH Q1: WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BUZZ PIECES BEFORE, BUT HOW IS EVERYONE DOING? ANY TO SHARE?
• I wasn't part of the discussion on buzz pieces. Define buzz pieces, briefly. Plz • Buzz pieces can be white papers, e-‐books, any type of free information that you provide
that helps establish your credibility/expertise • That's a great idea-‐buzz piece. Didn’t think I had the expertise to write an ebook. • I suppose a lot of the writing I do falls into the "buzz piece" category. I have free articles
on my website, and write a newsletter. • I try to get new articles up on my website about every other week. • Have not done any yet, but plan to launch an international market update and trends
piece for the travel industry -‐ no one here is doing this THEN TOOK OFF ON OUR FIRST TANGENT -‐ COLLABORATION IDEAS
• collaborating great idea. Only prob. is coordinating busy schedules :) • we use an online collaboration tool -‐ plus email, phone, and regular meetings -‐ the
meetings are a must • George, which collaboration tool do you like? • We're road testing OpenAtrium and Cyn.in. Cyn.in was a major challenge to install -‐ it's
either $6500 / year or a free DIY version. OA is free. • So far working on my own, and have no collaboration tools, but to learn more about
them and use them too. • I'm on my own as well, although I do partner with various other folks depending upon
the project • Here you go: http://tinyurl.com/2bpvy9k -‐ lets you compare various CMS / collab tools • We do a lot on iChat • We embedded our group's private chat room into the collab tool -‐ linked it yesterday to
our voice-‐mail-‐to-‐email system -‐ get alerts in chat when someone phones & leaves a ms • If you're going to collaborate -‐ start small, keep it simple, and work on developing
mutual trust. • What you've set up here for us is a good starting point.
• Sage advice, George. Takes time to find the right fit. • Any particular method you all use to seek out partners to collab with? • I'm looking for an on-‐line tool enabling both clients & me to securely store and edit docs
-‐ don't need anything 2 fancy • OpenAtrium is free, relatively easy to set up & use. It's not perfect, but it's good enough. • any opinion about Box.net? • The most widely tool I use is Skype :) I do all my conference calls and chat with people
out of state and out of the country. • What's box.net? • Box.net is just one of a slew of collaboration sites. They all have their pros/cons -‐ just
depends upon what your greatest need is • I also use a project mgt. software program (not free though) through an agency I work
with -‐ Zoho. A lot to it. • Plus with 3 of us FT on the team -‐ art, vid/biz, tech -‐ we each keep up to date on our
areas of expertise and then share internally • Box.net & others are more for document storage and editing by multiple parties -‐
doesn't replace Skype
SOON WE ADDED IN A CONVERSATION ABOUT TWITTER: • Twitter apps: TweetDeck -‐ I have LOTS of columns • I find Tweetdeck overwhelming • I use TweetDeck as well and scan the timeline from my various lists throughout the day -‐
but it's so addicting. I could spend all day there • How do you manage multiple languages on Twitter ..work in english and french..which
tools are best for managing this? • Twitter in general is 99 per cent noise and 1 per cent signal • I use an automated management system for my social media called Postling. It's free
and fairly new, and I like it. • Try creating a list of some key folks in your field and just have that running alongside
your All Friends column. • George, I agree about the noise on Twitter, but there are enough nuggets to be mined
(at least in my field) that it's worth the effort • Twitter is worth the effort if you know how to market effectively on there. • I get bits from it, too, but most of my keeping up is done in walled gardens -‐ sites where
pros hang out, pro mailing lists, etc. • My views on Etsy have increased since sharing on Twitter. • It really depends on your industry & niche. There are lots of tricks to Twitter. • Be very specific w/ your target market & don't follow just anyone. • Follow the movers and shakers in your industry. • agree re Twitter / industry niche. It's good at fast-‐breaking info, not so good at deep
thoughts. • agree with that. I don't follow everyone who follows me – • Twitter is great for me; I've made contacts w/ lots of legal professionals. I find articles of
use to me, and establish my expertise there • takes a while to discern who exactly movers and shakers really are lol
• depends on your field. There are great search functions. You can search via keywords on Twitter.
• There's generally a lot more just shaking than actually moving... • One tip about your competition -‐ look at who they've recently started following -‐ there
might be some potential work out there to compete for • You would be surprised. I just got direct replies about an interview series I ran on my
blog and it was only up for one day. • Twitter is a micro-‐blogging platform. It is not like the heavy hitters like LinkedIn • Have found sources of timely and new trends on Twitter -‐ although mostly US/canada
related but can adapt to local situation. • It's about disseminating info. fast but it can be effective -‐ like anything with social
media. You have to put some time in to make it work. • trends from that 'trending' list, Kate or elsewhere? • it's a great place to find the latest trends and news -‐ agreed. • Twitter is good old simple text messaging. First time I tried it I was 'Hey, this is just like
the old AOL IM days' • I'm an information junkie and follow great folks on Twitter, I could be on it all day
absorbing more and more • Twitter exposure is great & finding your industry niche is even better. • searched for travel, then environment on twitter and went from there.
ANOTHER THREAD EMERGED ABOUT LINKEDIN:
• LinkedIn is where I've have found the majority of my clients and how I found the agency I partner with.
• you need to join groups where you can share your expertise and don't just join your industry groups -‐ cross over to other groups
• I am having trouble getting mileage out of LinkedIn so far, but I'm trying to spend more time there.
• How can one get best out of LinkedIn -‐ without having to subscribe huge amts • Participate in groups • Still getting the hang of LinkedIn -‐ it's kind of intimidating (could be because I belong to
a gazillion groups!) • I've heard that from several people re: referrals and Linkedin • LinkedIn been on our radar for years. But our clients mainly come from personal
connections and referrals • Had someone contact me for advice after seeing me on LinkedIn -‐ no projects yet • it's not as scary as it looks. • George, you may want to give it a try. There are some very well-‐connected people on
there that might benefit your industry and work. • Just started on LinkedIn and joined one group -‐ need to find some marketing and
tourism groups. • I have a goal to develop my LinkedIn company page. That's a goal for this week. • Haven't tried LinkedIn yet. What is the best value? • And don't be afraid to ask a happy client if s/he will refer you to their contacts. • I've been on LI for several years. It started when I was doing contract work for a
computer game company. They required it. • if you are a biz professional you should be dialed into LinkedIn • LI here I come! • every professional needs have a presence on LI
WRAPPED IT ALL UP WITH -‐ WHAT PERCENTAGE OF TIME DO PEOPLE ALLOT FOR SOCIAL MEDIA VERSUS GETTING WORK DONE? 2 HOURS/DAY?
• you don't need to spend that much time if you don't have. I tell my clients start small but build into your calendar and set up an editorial calendar with posts, etc. You need to spend some time -‐ even if only 10 mins per day
• good question. Depends on work load and deadlines (and desire to procrastinate but feel like I'm doing something productive)
• This is where I help my clients -‐ I write online marketing plans for them which includes how to help them strategize their social media.
• The biggest thing is remain consistent -‐ can't emphasize that enough. • And keep on a timeline but don't beat yourself up if you skip a day -‐that's when people
quit and say forget it ha! • 'The secret to success is to keep showing up.' Woody Allen • With social media in general, it's all about being consistent and being active -‐ whether
you tweet on a daily basis or write a weekly blog. GOALS FOR THE WEEK:
• Enjoy Thanksgiving and take a few days off ha! • Goal: Learn how to use Twitter and Linkedin properly • Get my editorial calendar set up for next 2 months, continue working on website, dive in
more fully with LinkedIN • fully I'll start making some valuable professional contacts • Goals: lots of blogging, finish newsletter, & the LinkedIn company profile. • Establish myself on LI & become involved and active. • Start networking with local travel industry professionals
From Therese Pope -‐ If anyone has specific questions, connect with me on Twitter or LinkedIn -‐ am happy to help answer specific questions. If you have questions about social media marketing with the big players FB, LI or Twitter. My blog www.zenfulcommunications.com and write lots of blog topics about social media -‐ good tips Our small but mighty group this week: @cjtreggett – Carole @georgebutters – George @Hopejoy -‐ Hope @daphnedrescher – Daphne @KCsez – Kate @CygnetUpdates -‐ Vicky @theresepope – Therese @toptomato – Rock (popped in to say Hi)