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    Story Created: Feb 18, 2011 at 12:39 AM ECT

    (Story Updated: Feb 18, 2011 at 12:39 AM ECT )

    Police Commissioner Dwayne Gibbs has come under heat recently for comments concerning the use

    of excessive force in resisting criminal attacks.

    Much of the criticism against him has stemmed from emotive reactions and from the hopelessness

    and helplessness which has gripped the nation in the fight against crime.

    However, Mr Gibbs has done no more than to state the legal position as it applies in Trinidad and

    Tobago.

    Any criticism against him on this basis therefore is not only unfounded but also unresearched.

    What his comments have done, however, is to bring the debate concerning this matter back into the

    public domain.

    Recent events of retribution have the population cheering; perhaps it is time for the authorities to

    revisit the issue and educate the public on the matter.

    Surely if one's toe is stepped on in a Carnival fete, an appropriate response would not be to kill the

    perpetrator and so it is from this perspective that reasonable force and reasonable response must be

    viewed.

    If one's life, security and family are under serious threat of personal violence, then that is another

    matter that justifies reasonable response. As to the running down of a bandit and running him over with

    a vehicle, this scenario is fraught with difficulties since the driver assumes the role of judge, jury and

    executioner.

    The need for justice must not give way to false judgment since no one can ask any questions of the

    perpetrator after the deed is done.

    If the bandit is guilty, then by all means I have no difficulty with the death penalty, but I fear that

    vigilante justice may open up a veritable can of mayhem.

    Has the time come for the authorities to review the legal position?

    Surely!

    Should one be allowed to kill or seriously wound a person who illegally and unlawfully enters one'spremises?

    Should firearms be more readily available?

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    9 hours ago

    WHO DONT HEAR HAVE TO FEEL,those two COCKROACHES got

    exactly what they deserved and not one second too late

    9 hours ago

    I agree with you writer Mr. Gibbs did state the legal side of this

    story. The question is does a man have the right after the crime havebeen committed, to run or drive down the bandit running him over

    with his car? This cannot be, and Mr. Ali, though i sympathize with

    him, yet i cannot condone his actions. The laws needs revision

    otherwise what we will have is men and women going - seeking the

    perpetrators of crimes and delivering their brand of justice, a la trini

    style.

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    4 hours ago

    If the bandit just chopped one of my family members and beat

    them then bet your bottom dollar I would not be in a state of mind

    to be philosophising about whether or not I should let the law take

    its course. I would be in such a rage that I would seek out and do

    serious harm to these vermin who just committed acts of violence

    against me and my family. Could I live with myself knowing that

    these two vermin had escaped to return again to my family at

    their convenience because it was so easy the first time?

    Order cannot be restored in this country until the police start doing

    their jobs. As long as that does not happen people are going to be

    forced to do it for them.

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    if u dont want to institute the death penalty in the courts, then it will

    be instituted on the streets.

    citizens hav a right to swift and accessible justice, and the current

    system is not giving them that. all we are seeing is spillover justice.

    59 minutes ago

    We are arriving at a period in our "CIVILITY, that a citizen, when

    pushed, will regress into his BRUTISH NATURE, because he or she

    has looked at the power and arrogance of the criminal class,

    together with the failure of those charge to Protect and Serve and

    ajudicate. and if your loved ones are brutalized, by thugs, my friends,

    the majoity of men with cajones, will not listen to lectures of civil

    probity., it is a universal axiom, to protect your family.War is not

    nice,even when we decide on the rules.Should the "law as

    constituted subject citizens to be lambs fit for Slaughter, or to be an"

    Ass" .

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