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ISO 27001 implementation: How to make it easier using ISO 9001? Presenter: Dejan Kosutic

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ISO 27001 implementation: How to make it easier using

ISO 9001?

Presenter: Dejan Kosutic

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How to use ISO 9001 to make your ISO 27001 implementation less painful.

You have already implemented ISO 9001, or you are planning to implement both ISO 9001 and ISO 27001.

In most of the cases ISO 9001 can save up to 25% of time needed for ISO 27001 implementation.

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ISO 27001 is much more similar to

ISO 9001 than it may seem at first sight!

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Agenda

5

• Similarities

• Differences

• Implementation issues & roles

• Top management issues

• Implementing both standards

• Certification

• Greatest challenges with ISO 27001

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Similarities – PDCA cycle

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Plan

CheckDo

Act

Define

what you

want to

achieve

Implement

what you

have

planned for

Measure

if you

achieved

the

objectives

Fill the

gap

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… Similarities

7

• Process approach

• Document control

• Corrective actions

• Human resources management

• Internal audits

• Management review

• Setting the objectives and measuring

• ISO 27001 Annex A – exclusions are possible

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… And differences

8

Selecting controls

(risk assessment)

Quality manual

ISO 9001 ISO 27001

Statement of

Applicability

Security

Incidents

Customer

complaints

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Implementation issues

9

• Integrate ISMS and QMS in one single management system

• For ISO 9001 clause 7.1.3 (Infrastructure) use ISO 27001

• PAS 99 Integrated Management

• Do not merge Quality Policy and Information Security Policy

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Roles

10

• QMS management representative

• CISO (Chief Information Security Officer)

• Project team

• Top management / sponsor

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Top management issues

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• If QMS is already implemented, they will understand the benefits (or drawbacks) of ISMS easier

• The management review can be done at the same time for both ISO 27001 and ISO 9001

• System for setting objectives and measuring them can be the same

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Implementing both standards in parallel

12

Objectives

ISMS, QMS

policies

Document

management

Risk

Assessment

+ Annex A

Core

operating

procedures

Internal audits,

Management

reviews,

Corrective

actions

ISO 27001 ISO 9001ISO 27001 + ISO 9001

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Certification

13

Integrated audit

→ it will save you time and money!

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Greatest challenges with ISO 27001

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• Mapping them both to make single documents be it policies or Quality Manual

• Educating executives that the need for compliance is a business case not just an IT case

• Commitment both from upper management and staying involved

• To get buy-in from the other employees in order to put the appropriate controls in place

• Making sure you have the right capabilities/ resources in IT

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Conclusions

15

ISO 27001 and ISO 9001 have a very similar core management system

→ ISO 9001 is an excellent foundation for ISO 27001 implementation

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Q & A

Dejan Kosutic

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