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J.J. Thomson, “The Trolley Problem” (1985) PHIL 102, UBC Christina Hendricks Fall 2015 Except images licensed otherwise, this presentation is licensed CC BY 4.0

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Page 1: J.J. Thomson, “The Trolley Problem” (1985)blogs.ubc.ca/phil102/files/2015/02/ThomsonTrolley-102...J.J. Thomson, “The Trolley Problem” (1985) PHIL 102, UBC Christina Hendricks

J.J. Thomson, “The Trolley Problem” (1985)

PHIL 102, UBC Christina Hendricks

Fall 2015

Except images licensed otherwise, this presentation is licensed CC BY 4.0

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Review a little from the videos

http://is.gd/TrolleyProblemVideos

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Trolley Driver 5 1

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Philippa Foot, 1967 Transplant

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Trolley driver & transplant

•  How does Philippa Foot (1967) explain the difference between these cases?

•  What do you think?

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Thomson’s response to Foot

•  Foot’s solution won’t work for a different case from “trolley driver”: “bystander at the switch”

o Why not?

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Bystander at the Switch

Basic Trolley Scenario, Flickr photo shared by John Holbo, licensed CC BY-NC 2.0

Permissible to flip the switch?

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Foot’s Driver vs Transplant

I.  “Killing one is worse than letting five die” (Thomson 1396)

II.  “Killing five is worse than killing one” (Thomson 1397) Trolley, Flickr photo shared by

John Holbo, licensed CC BY-NC 2.0

Bystander at the switch is in this situation too

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Thomson’s main question “Why is it that the bystander may turn his trolley, though the surgeon may not remove the young man’s lungs, kidneys and heart?” (1401)

Basic Trolley Scenario, Flickr photo shared by John Holbo, licensed CC BY-NC 2.0

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How does Thomson answer this question?

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Using people as means to ends?

Is the difference between transplant and bystander that: •  in transplant the surgeon uses

the patient merely as a means to save the five others,

•  but that doesn’t happen in the bystander at the switch case?

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No, b/c of loop example (1402-1403)

Using a person merely as a means to an end

Bystander

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What do you think of “loop”?

Straw polls on LC: (attendance not taken; this is just for interest’s sake)

•  How many think it is morally permissible for

the bystander at the switch w/o the loop to pull the switch?

•  How many think it is morally permissible for the bystander at the switch with the loop to pull the switch?

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Can we appeal to rights? •  “rights trump utilities” (1404)

•  Can we say, then, that (1404): i.  Surgeon cannot transplant b/c violates

rights of patient, but ii.  Bystander can flip switch b/c doing so

doesn’t violate rights of the one who is killed?

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Another way to distinguish bystander from transplant

•  Bystander: saves 5 by making something that threatens them, threaten 1 instead (1407)

•  Not true of transplant

•  Imagine a case similar to bystander: o deflecting lethal gas in

hospital from five to one (1407-1408)

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“Distributive Exemption”

•  “permits arranging that something that will do harm anyway shall be better distributed than it otherwise will be—shall … do harm to fewer rather than more” (1408).

•  Could use this to say: o Bystander may turn the trolley o We may deflect gas fumes in the hospital o The surgeon must not transplant

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“Distributive Exemption” Difference between this and what Foot says about choosing between violating two negative duties?

Driver’s   choice   Bystander’s   choice  

Killing  1    Viola'ng  nega've  duty  and  1  dies  

Killing  5    Viola'ng  nega've  duty  and  5  die    

Killing  1    Viola'ng  nega've  duty  and  1  dies  

Le8ng  5  die    Not  fulfilling  posi've  duty    

On Foot’s principle, this may not be permissible

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But…

Distributive exemption is only morally permissible if we can deflect a harm from many onto fewer “by means which do not themselves constitute infringements on the rights of the one” (1409)

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“Fat Man”

Bridge Situation, Flickr photo shared by John Holbo, licensed CC BY-NC 2.0

Basic Trolley Scenario, Flickr photo shared by John Holbo, licensed CC BY-NC 2.0

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What do you think of “fat man”?

Straw poll on LC: (attendance not taken; this is just for interest’s sake)

•  How many think it is morally permissible

for the bystander to push the large person off the bridge to stop the trolley?

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How does Thomson argue that it’s permissible for the bystander to

flip the switch but not to push the large person?

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Summary & review

•  Bystander may flip the switch but surgeon may not transplant—why?

•  Bystander may flip the switch but may not push the “fat man” —why?

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Summary & review

Why?

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Why these weird scenarios?

•  What could be the point of unrealistic thought experiments like this?

•  Create artificial situations to focus in on particular questions o What questions are focused on in trolley

driver vs. transplant, bystander at the switch, fat man, loop?