lvooorkeeper: ''Test..Test.TestTest. Attention Members ofj girl,a chance.It gave me schooling,independence of ;1 1l1 actton, opportunity.for servtce, and honqur.' Let us ë' lj j'!

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lvooorkeeper: ''Test.. Test. Test......Test. Attention Members of- - 'r''r ;

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fifteen minutes.i 1' ? . - 1 . .: '. ' . ' @ ' ) . . w I . t/ jj (, a jj w rf : ' l 1 qg e s t: . 0 n e y t W O . Y 2 S Q. i rt g, . ' 'àë .

' -*'1. 1 ' F.ltnn : ''Fo r tho s e o f yo u who may b e on th e f loo r , tll ts l i t t lei 1 .l ! .

, , p' 1: girl up here ts my granddaughter, Kelly Flinn. Say, Hi!i ! îI ' I1 ,,

jj Kelly. ji l jl I ,, 1' Doorkeeper: àttention Members of the House of Representativesl t l! f .

The House vill convene in five àinutes. A11 persons not lI . jl n t i t l ed to the Ho us e f l'o o r p 1ea s e re t ire t o th e gall ery

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! l''j1 41 1,,I. ,,.Flinn: Before we convene the House I d like to announce tol j1 those of you on the floor that we have, in the gallery,i .

l Maryvtzle uest grade schooz studentsw aadktheir xeachers,)

and their parents. Rlght up here.''

l 1. ,,1 rnknown: Good morning.I ,

Speaker Redmond: OHouse will come to order. Members pleaseI l . '(1 be in their seats. Be 1ed in prayer by tbe ReverendI1U Krueger. the House chaplatn. If Kebber Borchers will 1etI

. .-1 .l ! ,,! . him .I 1! 1 . '11 Reverend Krueger: 'Qn the Name of the Father

, the Son, andl It1 the Hoty Ghost. hmea. 0 tord, bless this House to Thyl1) service this day. Amen. Herbert Hoover said, fMy countryiI .!l owes me nothtng. It gave me, as it gives to every boy and1 I

j girl, a chance. It gave me schooling, independence of ;1l ë11 actton, opportunity.for servtce, and honqur.' Let us '

jlj 'l! pray. ALMIGHTY GOD, the eternal and everlasting Fathery' 1Iwe> Thy servants, do give Thee thanks for Thy gracious I

. ktI goodness to a11 mankind. Grant, 0 lord, that the many pI !.

lI talents which Tbou hast given to us vho serve here in ll

.l this House,of Representatives, may not be used for selfishll

, lwhin or personal gain; ratber, may they be ever used for '.

the perfection of this society in which we dwelly that the'

citizens of this State of Illfnois may enjoy tranqutlity

1 ând peace, economtc,secùrity and soctal freedom, withI

l limited independeùce and freedom of opportunity andun

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, , !! l . . . lc '. .i Ropp: ''F pledgè allegiance to the flag of the United States of!. l I

J; America and to the Republic, for which it standsy one .! ! l$1 Nation under God: indivisible, with Liberty and Justice j1

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or a1l.'f !I ' 1u 1Speaker Redmond: Roll Call for attendance

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11 only your own switch now. Roll Call for attendance. !1 l ë1 1

j . ((1 We re going to take this record. Representative Walsh is (I j ' jtl scurrying in. Take the record. Take the record . Take i!I II the record. Okay. Consent Calendar, Second Readingy 1' )

r' lSecond Day. What page is that?)1lj clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 1355. A Bill for kn Act to amendI l i1 the Controlled Substance Act. Second Reàding of the Bill.I .l

' t Amendment //1 was adopted in Committee.'l '

Speaker Redmoad: flT:ird Reading. How about Senate Bills,

First Reading?'fl

.I i .il Clerk OlBrien: HSenate Bills, First Reading.''t 1 iI

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j Clerk O'Brien: 'lsenate Bill 209. Terzich. A Bill for an 1j '

Act to amend the Pension Code. Ftrst Reading of the Bi11.I 1.I Senate Bill 494. Schneider. A Bill for an Act to amend 'i

the School Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate jI l

Bill 504. VonBoeckman. A Bill for an Act'to amend #l

the Civil Administrative Code. First Reading of the )l

Bill. Senate Bill 505. Polk. A Bill for an Act to 11 ilt revise numbers, correct technical errors, and make othe: $'

. !)I ' changes tn the sections of che vehtcle code. First lr

Reading of the Bi11. Senate Bill 517. Friedland. A BillllIfor an Act to amend the School Code. First Reading of the'

Bill. Senate Bill 533. Ropp. A Bill for an Act to. !

, create the State Fairs Commission. First Reading of the '

Bïl1. Senate Btll 543. Ebbesen. A Bill for an Act

relating to higher education. First Readiag of the Bi1l.

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' t ..% J 'tjj/éxffnt.p r à.J tf i'c.eé :Ald t.J.X ;a )Fzf .r s: t ; ''R e a d'i n g ' O f t h e B i 1 1 . S e n a t e 'l .B il'l '' 553 . llo f f man . . . A B i 11 f o r an Act to 'amend th e S choo ll .1

i l .( j do d é . F i r s t .Re.'ad.in g': oJf': th e B i 11 . S ena t e B f 11 5 54 .I 1l Yourel'l. A 'Bi11' for an'' Act to amend an Act relating tol ll lI shertffs recorders of deedss and county clerks. First1 .> !1l l1 Readtng of the Bill. Senate Bill 557. Yourell. A Bill i

l11 for aa Act to revtse t:e electton laws procedures. Ftrsut 1 p( ,l Readtng of the Bill. Senate Bill 558. Hoxsey. A Bill i

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I1 for an Act to amend the Election code. First Reading of l11 I $11 the Bi11. Senate Bi11 560. Yourell. A Bill for an Act I

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j )1 j . )to revise t*e election laws governing nominating petitionsk

1l Ffrst Reading of tbe Bill. Senate Bill 622. Getty. A 1' )

IBill for an Act to amend the Criminal Code. First Reading/. J

of the Bi11. Senate Bill 563. Yourell. A Bill for an) .$

! Act to revise the Campaign Finance Disclosure Law. FirstIl Reading of the Bi11. Senate Bill 568. Yourell. A BillI

for an Act to amend the Illinois Banking Act. First

1 Reading of the Bi11. Senate Bill 653. Friedlaad. A1! l

'( Bilt for aa Act to amend the School Code. Ffrst ReadingI l i:. of the Bill. Senate Bill 666. Oblinger. A Bill for an1 I I11 Act to amend the school code. First Readtng of the Bill. II ' I

Senate Btll 670. O'Brien. A Bill for an Act to amend

the Income Tax Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senate k

1 Bill 673. Rea. A Bi11 for an Act to amend the Epviron- ';lI l, !mental Protection Act. First Reading of the Bill. Senatq

i'for an Act to amend the 1Btll 676. Bullock. A Bi11.:

lBusiness corporation Act. First Reading of the Bill.

senate Btll 681. Friedland. A Bill for an Act to amend

' the Illinois Savings and Loan Act. First Reading of the

Bill. Senate Bill 685. Breslin. A Bill for an Act to

amead the General Not For Profit Corporation Act. First

Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 692. Yourell. A Bill

for an Act to'amend 'the Election'code; First Reading of

1 j .I tb e B i11 . senate Bill 701. Cblinger. A Bi11 for an Act relatingj 'l -. -

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1 to the safety of persons required to enter underground

' I sewers in....c.n,u,.è.t.z,on-....i't.hc sh.-tr- ;e'm' p'zoym.ut.; ...,,, s'srét aeadingIo f t h e B i 1 1 . '. S ena t @ k B i 1 l . 7 l 8 . 11 o f f ma fl . .' A . B i 1 1 f o r an

l . Ac t to amend tlz e . s cho J 1 ,.. co d e .; --.F.i.r s.t Re a d in g o f t h e B i1l .!! 1' S ate Bill 719. Redmond; 'A B1ll for an Act to authorizeI enI l' l h Board of Regents to acquire and operate through I! j t e ,1 lj Northern Illinois Pniversity the Lewis University College!'

of Law. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 725.I 1! 1I Danfels

. A Bill for an Act to revise the 1aw in relation i

lto counties. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 729.)j' I h

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11 Hoffman. A Bill for an Act to amend the County Home Act. I:1 i r s t R e a d i n g o f t h e B i 1 1 . S e n a t e B i 1 1 7 3 2 . R e e d . A lF

IlBill for an Act to amend the title and parts of the Mobile

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!Home Privilege Tax Act. First Reading of the Bi11. Senatel

Bill 733. Friedland. A Bill for an Act to amend the 'Il S

avings and Loan Act. Ftrst Reading of the Bill. Senate1 .l Bill 756. Cullerton. A Bill for an Act to amend an Acti

relating to wrongful death. First Reading of the Bill.

Senate Bill 1266. Diprima. A Bill for an Act making!; supplemental appropriation to the Department of Veterans'

Affairs. First Reading of the Bi11. Senate Bill 651.i1I Lechowicz. A Btll for an Act relating to banks organizedIl !'

specifically to serve saving associations. First Reading ':I - I' iof the Bill

. Senate Bill 657. Schneider. A Bill for an !

lAct to amend the School Code. First Reading of the Bi11Z'll

S eak e r Re dmo nd : '' Gene r a 1 Re s o lu t ion s . '' j'PI

clerk o'Brien: 'Iouse Resolution 300. Skinner-Mugalian.'' 1ISpeaker Redmond: 'Qommittee on assignments. Who's the Sponsor?I

Death Resolution.l'

j Clerk OlBrien: 'lHouse Resolution 299. McBroom-Ryan, withrespçct to the memory of Mr. Daniel E. Bergman, Kankakee

County.''

Speaker Redmond: 'lRepresentative McBroom moves the adoption

of the Death Resolution. Those.in favor say 'aye'. 'Ayè'.

Opposed, îno The 'ayes' have it. The motiom carried.

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l . . - - . . ..!' C1 e rk 0 ' B r i en : '' John , i t ' s ' 2 9 7 an d 2 9 8 .' ' F ifï d N i t ? -' : H J is e .1' ' Reso lut ion 29 7 , Dtprima , and Hou's e: ' Reé'o l.ufioé. .29 8 , 'Beatty . 'I'l .1 I! Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Matile#ich on fh'e Agreed !j '

Il Resolutions.'' .

I 1j Matile/ich: .'IMr. Speaker and tadies and Gentlemen the Réuselï

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PresidentlHouse Resolution 297, Dtprima, coagratulates the. il

of the Illinois State Dental Society, Dr. Dominick I

: 1 ;I 1j 'casterbone', and House Resolution 298, Beatty, is a..'. j) congratulates Mr. and Mrs. Austin o'Grady Mn their fiftietiI1 wedding anntversary. move the adoption of the Agreed

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IResolutions.'' 'li

Speaker Redmond:è HAny discussion? The question's on the 'l .. 1

1' jGentleman s motion for the adoption of the Agreed Resolu-1 1

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1 I Itions. Those in favor say aye . Aye . Opposed, no .

The 'ayes' have it. Tbe motion carried. The Agreed

II Resolutions are adopted. House Bills, Second Reading.II! House Bill 2186. Representative Donovan. Ilm:.going to1 't1 probe around here and'try to find some that look noncon-

troversial that we can move.'î

clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill...House Bill 2186. Second

Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Donovan.''

clerk O'Brien: ''A Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the

1 code of corrections. second Reading of the Bi1l.Hl

Speaker Redmond: 'lRepresentative Donovan.'f

Clerk OlBrien: 'lsecond Reading of the Bill. This Bill hasI

been read a secoad tine previously, and Amendment #k was1I .1 adopted.''

Speaker Rédmond: ''Did you find the Bt11? Any motions with

respect to Committee Amendments?''

Clerk OlBrien: HA motion to table Amendment //1 prevailed.

Floor Amendment //2, Dohovan=slape, amends-Hoùsé Bill 2186-:-1

by deleting everything after line 7 and so forth.''

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' l speaker Redmond: ''Representative Donovan.''ll . . . : , . .Donovan: Yes, Amendment //2 changes lipe' 5 in th@ b/igihal: -

Amendment //1 from a five percent charge to a rànge! . l

l I! Amendment //2, which is an agreed portion df the Alendmènt 11 I1 l . I11 with the Department of corrections. It was discussed !I l g1,1 vith Representattve schlicuman a few days ago, and we havel,'-1 ''

. 1!come to agreement on it, and so now I would move theI 1

j ' T1, !adoption of agreement...df Amendment //2. l- I

speaker Redmond: ''Any discussion? The question's on the I

! . itI Gentleman's motion for the adoption o'f Amendment 2. Those!! 1 . . i1 ' , , , , , , , , l1 ia favor say aye . Aye . opposed, no . The ayes l

!Amendment's adopted. Any 1have The motiou carried.

ilfurther Amendments?''I1

' Clerk OfBrien: HNo further Amendments.'' :I . ij. !

Speaker Redmond: ''Third...Third...Representative Cataniaz' 'I 1l1 r ,

Catania: Mr. Speaker, I have Amendment1j 'I Speaker Redmoad: ''DO we have Amendment 3:''j ' tl ''Fiied and distributed.'' icatania: :! I ;l 1Clerk O'Briea: HFloor Amendment //3s Catania, amends House Billè! li Ii 2186 as amended by inserting at the end of Section 3-7 at 'i' !!

, , j! 2A the following and so forth.) i. :l Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Catania.'' 1lI . lCatania: f'Thank you: Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. 1,

!' jAmendment simplv codifies department Dolicv. savs; *' '' . *' *' '' '' 1

j . . lkitems purchased for sale at any sucb commissary shall be lt j

purchased wherever posstble at wholesale cost. It still !!l

leaves them the leeway to purchase at retail cost when it tîl ,,seems to be necessary. move the adoption of Amendment 3.il

S eaker Redmond: 'fRepresentative Donovan.'' 'P I1

Donovan: ''It's fine.'' l;

Speaker Redmond: HThe question's on the Lady's motion to ji

adopt Amendment Those in favor say 'aye'. îAye'. :. !

Opposed, fno'. The 'ayes' have it. 'The 'détidn darrfe'dt ''.'

Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?''

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clerk O'Brien: ''No further...no further Amendments.''

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l t e i n' e nW e b e r : ' ' I w a s r e a d i n g i n t h i s mo r n i n g ? s S u n T i mù s . I 'I; .j think the problem with the Generat Assembly here, accordinjl .1 to an article by Dave Feldman, we have bad ankles, and 11

Iwefve been on the. pain-killing drug, fbuttisaloadin'',rtool

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,, 1Speaker Redmond: Thank you for conserving our time. Repre- '

1.I seatative Schlickman.'' l! i

'' 14 7 3 ? '' iSchlickman:ji 1l Speaker Redmond: ''1473.': j

IClerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 1473. A Bfll for an Act to amend i

lthe Illinois Banking Act. Second Reading of the Bill. i

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tAmendments //2 and 3 were adopted in Committee.'' il 1Schlickman: ''Mr. Speaker, Members of tbe Housey House Bill

1 1473 is a 3t1l that deals vith che subject of failingbanks, and a Bill that would give the Commissioner of

banks some limited authority with respect to a marriage!

1 betWeen a failing bank and a surviving bank. In Committe)II i'

there was some opposition to the Bi11. on account of that'

1j opposition Ameadments 2 and 3 were adopted. The Bill was !lreported out of Committee Kith the understanding that I

lwould continue to meet with the interested parties. As ;la consequence of those meetings, an agreed upon Amendment l

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was presented, and it.'.G am now offering for adoption. jlAmendment //3 insures that the authority of the Commissione/

' jlwill be based on an absolute necessityy and it deletes in Ii

lines 26...0n line 26 of page 1 the words ffacilities, if j;' i 5 of page 2 tbe words 'or facilities'. 6any and on l ne

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With the adoption of this Amendment, this Bill is support-l1

ed by al1 elements of the banking industry. I move for

its adoption.''

Speaker Redmond: HAny discussion? Wait a minute now . -Are

these Floor Amendments, Representative Schlickman?'l

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Schlickman: ''This Amendment //4, which is the one .1 .addressed,

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,, I1 Speaker Redmond: Any Amendments from the floor?l . ,,Clerk 0 Brien: Floor Amendment //4, Schtickmaas

1speaker Redmond: ''He just explained that. Now, the Gentleman's'

jmotion is for the adoptioa of Amendment 4. Those in iI

, . f t ' t 4 . 4 1favor say aye Aye Opposed, no The ayes have t

l 11 it. The mocton carrted. Amendment 4 ts adopted. Any jl further Ameadments:', l'

jClerk O'Brien: ''No further Amendments.'' I1Speaker Redmond: ''Third Reading. 1741. Representative Gene

Hoffman.''

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 1741. A Bill for an Act to amend

the School Code. Secoad Reading of the Bi11. Amendmentlf1 //1 was adopted tn Committee.''II u

,,Speaker Rédmond: Any motion with respect to Amendment 1?

. Clerk O'Brien: HNo motions filedz'. l

k Redmond: ''Any Amendment from the floor?'' !spea erl

j ,1 'Clerk 0 Brien: Floor Amendment 112, Hoffman, amends House BtlliI

1741 as amended in Section 17-2.5 and so forth.'' t!

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lHoffman: ''Thank you: Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the !

l IHouse. Amendment //2 clarifies the language. Wefre jI

changing the term Unempsoypentccdmpqnsation Tax tq-uhem- !i!I ployment Insurance Tax at the suggestion of one of the ?-Tl v,Committee Members

, and move the adoption of Amendment //2/. speaker Redmond: HIs there any discussion?- The questionfs oû l

$the Gentleman's motion for the adoption of Amendment 2. (' !

Those in favor say 'aye'. 'Aye' Opposedy 'no' The

'ayes' have The motion carried. Amendment's adopted.i1

Any further Amendments?''

clerk O'Brien: HNo further Amendments.''

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speaker Redmond: ''Third Reading. 2074.''

- - ' ' 1- olreruao 'Brten: ' H:use Btll 2074., 'A Bill for an Act to amend. an Article.of an Act relating to alcoholic liquor. Second-

1. ..' Readiig of.the Bill. No Committee Amendments.l l

1 i ', ,,.. j Speakér Rëdmond:. Any Amendments from the floor?Clerk O'Brien: HAmendment //1, Sandquist, amends House Bill 1

I2074 on page 6, line 12, and so forth.'f!

Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Sandqufst.'l l. !

Sandqufst: HYes Mr. Speak>r and Ladies and Gentlemen of the f. ' j

1House. These two Amendments, which Iêm offering, I had l

i1agreed with the Committee I would put on in the Housel

. ' floor. They have been worked out vith the various elements

1' in the industry and with the tiquor Control Commission. t

lAmendment //1, instead of increasing the fees by doubling 'l

it, increases them by fifty percent, and I ask for approval;

u 1of this Amendment. l

speaker Rédmond: ''Any discussion? The question's on the jt

Gentleman's motion for the adoption of Amendment 1. Those.!

i favor say 'ayeê fAye' Opposed 'no' The 'ayes' !11. . . , . . !

1 have it. The motion carried. Amendment 1 is adopted. 1I' 4Any further Amendments?'' I11Cl

erk O'Brien: .''Floor Amendment //2, Sandquist, amends HouseI . ItBill 2074 on page i by deleting line 1, 2, and 3, and!so forth.

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''R resentative Sandquist. '' 'Speaker Redmond: eplI

Sandquist: HYes, Mr. Chairman: Amendment //2 sets up the Dram

Shop Fund. where these fees will be put into and will',be 'I' I

paid to give the appropriations for Liquor Control Conmfs-l' tton . This was worued out . '' is

llSpeaker Redmond: ''Any discussion? The questionîs on the motion1

to adopt Amendment 1. Those in favor say 'aye'. 'Aye'. 1i

' Opposed...to 2, rather. Those in favor say faye'. 'Aye'.'

f 1 # 1 :Opposed, no . The ayes have its and Amendment 2 is l'

j' ' c a r r i e d . . . i s ..'. ad o # t e d '. ' An y f u r t h e r Am e n d m e n t s ? ' î '

clerk o'Brien: ''No further Amendments.''

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l ,, ',Speaker Redmond: Third Reading. 1790.l

Cleerk 0 ' Br ièn :.* : ' ''Ho uàh'; B'i11' 17 9'0'. A ''B i 11 f ör an Ac t t o àmend

th e F r an ch i s e Di s 'c lo s u'r'e Ac t '. '. S e co nd Re ad in g o f th e B i 11 .

1 . . - jjj Amendment //1 vasuadopted in Committee.111 11.

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' ! s p eaker Re dmond : ' '.'1.Any'l Amendien t f rom t:h e f 1oo r ? ''Ij Clerk O'Brien: HNo motions filed. Floor Amendment //2: l1 yc and 1,j Schlickman: amends House Bill 1790 on page 1, linei ,fj so forth.' )

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I 1speaker Redmond: f'Representative Daniels, for what purpose do i

l1 you rtse?'' l

j l 511 Daniels: ''Wel1, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemep of the l-1 ' 1lHouse, I wonder if I might have your attention for atimoment with leave of the Chair? In the gallery, behind me.

' i ht look up there for aon the Republican side, if you m g

secqnd, we have twelve students from the 'Elaml ChristianII I School

. Nov, these are twelve special students, because1 . li

j as we speak right now, they cannot hear us speak, for thes:lI children are a11 deaf, and theylve worked at their ownI !

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l sime and saved thetr own money to come nere to springfiezdl,1j

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1 Illinois to see t:e state capitol and take a tou/. And, '$ il El I would like you to join me in welcoming these students. :I j

You might stand up,aand turn around, and applaud them, t' ((

and welcome them to Springfield. Theybre from the district!trepresented by Represeatative Barnes, Representative Il

Huskey, and Representative Yourell, and theyfre special ;h

I , l1 to me, because my daughter is a full-time student of that !$I

school. She's multiply handicapped, and these are some oftIl

her classmates. So, if you would join me in recognlzing plthese students, I'd personally appreciate it. Thank you

very Luch. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of thei

House, t%ey will. be in room 122A from ten o'clock to

eleven o'clock, if any of you have a chance to stop down !

and say, 'Hello.' Thank you very much.''

speaker Redmond: ''Repr'esentati've' Steczo on...schlickman.

raèther. on Amendment //2. Schlickman.''

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S chlickman : ''Mr . Sp eake r , Memb e rs o f th e Ho us e , Amendment # 2

1 de le t e s . the . wcs r d-; . .' é.r ., tnlvib.i:t' ' '.:'.. -' -1 n.:xcommi t t e e'' i t' w as . f e.1 tthat the term ' inhib.it ! is tog. imprecise o r vague . and as

l a consequence, ve delete.th.eLrwo.rd.,.lor inhibit', and in-j '

! sert in lieu thereofy.iin 'anyiayurestrict . This is an1

agreed upon Amendment, and I move for its adoption.'' il (Speaker Redmond: HAny discussion? The questionïs on the

ent leman ' s mo t ion f o r the a do p t ion o f Amendment 2 . Tho s e lG)' )in favor say 'aye'. 'Aye' Opposed, 'nol. Tbe fayes' '!.'r..'

, have it. Motion carried. Amendment 2 is adopted. Any 1

l ifurther Amendments?'' i1lclerk o'Briea: 1'No further Amendments.''ISpeaker Redmond: 'Qhird Reading. 1811.H jlclerk O'Brien: ''House Btll 1811. A Bill for an Act to amend !Iithe Franchise Disclosure Act. Second ïReading of theI

Bi11. Amendment //1 vas adopted in Committee.''

Speaker Redmond: HAay Amendments from the floor?tî

Clerk OîBrien: ''Amendment //2, Schlickman, amends House Bill

1811 on...as ameaded on page 1, line 10 and so forth.''

Speaker Redmoid: ''Representative Schlickmaù.''I ll! Schlickman: HThe effgct of Amendment //2 Mr. Speaker, Members 'i ,

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of the House, is to provide that a fraachisor may aot ;' j

unreasonably discriminate against a franchisee with j'I

. 1respect to. . .we11, q. ust may not unreasonably discriminate

lagainst a franchisee. I would move for its adoption. i

This, also, is an agreed upon Amendment.''

Speaker Redmond: 'lThe question's on the Gentleman's motion

for the adoption of Amendment 2. Those in favor say 'ayeo.;

Ij fAyef Opposed, fno' The 'ayes' have it. Ihe motion i1. ' i-, ,,carried. Amendment 2 is adopted. Any further Amendments?i

t'Brien: HNo further Amendments.'' iClerk 0

!Speaker Redmond: l'Third Reading. 2145.. Representative

Campbell. 2145.''

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 2145:.. A' Bi.1l 'fo'rl an Act to amend

the Revenue Act. Second Reading of the Bill. Amendment

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.x .=e n ?/1 was adopted in Committee.''

s peaker Re dmond : ''Aay Amen' kd'k '.:.. a'n.# mo t io n''çv ith<-' èe saph'c t.'''t.o1' '' '' ' '.

A d m e n t 1 ? ' ' ' ' ' ' ' :' ' ' ' : ' ' ' 7 . - ' ' - ' . -. m e r1. ' t . .t- - ' ' . r . .' . .

J 0 ' B r i en :' ''N o mo t i oa s f i 1 e d . '' ' s ' . . - -: .1 . ' ... . c 2 t . . ' ' - '. 'C 1 e r k . . . .j ' .I Speaker Redmond: ''Any Amendment from thevfloor'?'' . '

' ''Floor Amendment //2, Keane, amends House Bill iclerk 0 Brien: l

I2145 on page 1, line 27 and so forthz' II

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Speaker R#dmond) ''Representative Keanegf' j.. n ' g uyemen, itvs an agreedlKeane: Yes, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and en

l' !Amendment. What it does is it expands the category of I1

those who 'can be certified by the Department of Local 1' j

1Government Affairs as. apprafsal officfals. I thfnk...l I1. Iknow that Representative Campbell agrees with the Amendr ..t

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'jment, and I would ask for its adoption. I

1Speaker Redmond: ''Any discussion? The question's on the :

. . I' (Gentleman motion for adoption of Amendment 2. Those in I '

l ,1 favor say 'ayel. lAye'. Opposed, 'noî. The 'ayes' have i)

j :it. Motion carried. The Amendment s adopted. Any (

f rther Amendments?'' (u!

' '' f h r Amendmen t s . ''' 1c 1 e r k o B r i e n : No u r t ejj '' 1:,l S ker Redmond: HThird Reading. 2148.1@ :: pea ,

:1Clerk OêBrien: 'lHouye Bill 2148. A Bill for an Act to amend .

l .!I the Revenue Act. Second Reading of the Bill. àmendment i

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. ?/1 was adopted in Committee.'' !t' ,! jSpeaker Redmond: ''Any motton with respect to Amendment 17 ji

Clerk O'Brien: ''No motions filed.'' ' l!

Speaker Redmond: ''Any Amendment from ther-floor?'' '. t

1clerk O'Brien: nFloor Amendment //2, Campbell, amends House !

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Bill 2148 as amended bv addinz after the last paraRraph $!

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d s0 forthz' ' !an j. I

lSpeaker Redmond: ''Representative Campbell. Amendment 2.'9 1!

campbell: 'lYes, Mr. Speàker, this àmendment addresses itself to 'fl' rthe post qualifications for townshtp acc'essors undert

t w en t y - f iv e th o u s a n d '. Th e r e'' lz a's s o me d i s c u s' s i b n .i n '' ' ' . '

' Committee that Ve dfdnle have enough teeth in rhe 3ï11,

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and th is Amendment s imply adds to the B il 1 . It s ays , .

! âny townsh ip ac ces so r , who' f ails t ci. me et ''nth'e .''qzkequi't.ele'n't s.' ' î '3. r'

o f th is S e c t ion , shall b e ineli g ib le t o b e r eele ct.ed #.; . and' '

I move f o r the adopt ion o f the Amendment .''' . ..-l l ,, . , - ,-

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Speaker Redmond: Any discussion? The questionvs.onetle.--'. 'l .

motion for adoption of Amendment 2. Those in favor: say !I I'aye'. 'Aye'. opposed, 'ao'. The 'ayes' have it. Tbe 1

!. 1motion càrried. Amendment's adopted. Aay further Amend- 1l

', Iments? 'l

lclerk O'Brien: ''No further Amendments.'' l'

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l speaker Redmoad: ''Third Reading. 2301.'' 11 k o'Brien: ''House Bill 2301. A B-ill for an Act to amend 1Cler

ISections of the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill. II

ry lAmendment was adopted in Committee.I

S k r Redmond: ''Any motion with respect to Amendment 1211 lpea e Ef

'B ien: ''No motion filed.'î iClerk 0 rl;

Speaker Redmond: ''Any Amendment from the floor?'' 1f:

Clerk OlBrien: 'Tloor Amendment #2. Peters, amends House Bill

2301 as amended by deleting a11 of subparagraph 7 and so

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: Speaker Redmond: Representative Peters.I 'l Peters: ''Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House,

I Amendment //2 is a clarifying Amendment by the Illinoisl

office of Education to House Bill 2301, and I would move

its adoption.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Any discussion? The question's on the

Gentleman's motion for the adoption of Amendment

in favor say 'aye'. 'Aye'. Opposed, fno'. The 'ayesf

have it. T5e motion carried. The Amendment's adopted.

Any further Amendments?''

clerk OlBrien: ''Floor Amendment //3, Schneider, amends House

Bill 2301 as amended by Amendment //1 and so forth.'l

speaker Redmond: ''Representative Schneider.'f

Schne ide r : '' I h ave s po ken wi th the S pons o r J '- ' My. ''Amendmen't ' do e s r(

take care of one of the problems, which he agrees to

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change in the Senate. There is another Amendment, which I

think satisfies my interest in my otber progisiof ié th'at''

Amendment. Therefore, Mr. Speaker, I'd likelto withdrawi'!'

or tabze Ameadmene p3.'' .1 î.$ I djj speaker Redmond: ''Representattve Schneider vithdraws Amendmentl

ll 3. Any further Amendments?'' t

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clerk o'Brien: ''Floor Amendment //4, Marovitz, amends House'

çBill 2301 as amended by inserting in the first sentence ol,, lthe second paragraph of subsectfon 2 and so forth.

Speaker Redmond: 'lRepresentative Peters.'' 1I 1 i11 Peters: ''Mr. speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this !1 l lj I Amendment is agrped to by the Sponsors o f the B i11 , and i 1: j

Ihas to do with reinstating the dentists in terms of the jllphysical examfnations of our schoolchfldren. Supported j!i

by the Dental Society, and I would move adoption of lI f'Amendmen t # 4 . '' i .

iSpeaker Redmond: 'îAny discussion? The question's on the l

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Gentlèman's motion for the adoption of Amendment 4. Those'' j

, ' f : ? : r r tin favor say aye . Aye . Opposed, no . The ayes

1 have it. The motion carried. Any further...and the

! Amendment's adopted. Aay further Amendments?''

Clerk O'Brien: ''No further Amendmentszf

Speaker Redmond: ''Third Reading. 240...24...434. 434.''

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bi11 434. A Bill for an Act to amend

the Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bi11. Amendment

//1 was adopted in Committee.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Any motion with respect to Amendment 1?1'

Clerk OfBrien: HXo Motions filed.'s

Speaker Redmond: C'Any Amendaent from the floor?''

Clerk O'Brien: ''No Floor Amendments.''

Speakèr Redmond: HThikd Reading. 226. Representative Harris

on the floor? Secoad Reading, Priority of Call, page;iIs Representative Harris on the floor? 0ut of the record.:

1517. Representative Griesheimer. 0ut of the 'Fed'brd.'

1829. Representative Stanlêy. Stanley? 1829 on Second

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Reading? 0h, pardon me. Stearney, Stearney. 0ut of the

7 n .- d.''1- > k'et '''-'v> '' ! . ' r : c o r d .' 2 0 7 7 . ' G r i e s h e im e r . 0 u t: o f t h e r e c o r d . 2 30 7 '. ' '

2307. Read 2307, Mr. Clerk.''

.1 Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 2307. A Bill for an Act to amend1 1t i

Sections of the Coin-operated Amusement Device Tax Act.' jFirst. . .second Reading of the Bill. Amend...no Committee. 1

Amendment.''1''Any Amendment from the floor?'' 1Speaker Redmond: l

1clerk O'Briea: ''Floor Amendment //1, OêBrien, amends House Billl

2307 on page 1, line 13 and so forth.''

j jl Speaker Redmond: ''Representatige Terzich: are you handling fl

1$ lthat Amendment? Capparellt? Yourell?

Yourell: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Amendment //1 to 2307l

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Bill z19o, whtch 1makes 2307 tn conformity with HouseI

t he Senate. I ''already has passed out of the House nto.t i

' tmove the adoption of Amendment !//1 to House Bill 2307.'' ''1

!S eaker Redmond : î'Repres entat ive Con ti . '' iP

!Conti: ''That's...Mr. Speaker and Gent- .tadies and Gentlemen .

!f h Ho us e , that ' s ni c e o f th em to move the . . . f o r tii e ' io t e

1 -l adoptton, but will you tell me what the adoption does. :1 3il It makes it the same as 1190. What does'.lllgo do?''

Speaker Redmond: l'Representative Yourell.''

Yourell: b'House Bill 1190 is a Bill that came out of the

Joint Committee on Administrative Procedure...Rules at

the request of the Department of Revenue.l'

Conti: OWhat does the Amendment do to it?'î

Yourell: ''The Amendment...House Bill 2307 calls for a fee of

tWo hundred dollars. House Bill 1190...the Department of

Revenu: wants the fee at tea dollars: and thatfs what it

does, lowers it to ten dollars.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Any further discussion? The questionls on

the Gentleman's motion for the adoption of Amendment 1.

Those in favor say 'aye'. 'Aye'. opposed, 'noî. The

' '' 'ayesl have it. The motion carried. The Amendment's

adopted. Any further Amendments?'l

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C 1 e r k 0 # B r i e n : '' F lo o r Am en dm en t 11 2 , Y o u r e 11 , am e n d s H o u s e B i 11

. .-j. . . . . . :. u. - g t$ () y . .o u p a g e 1. , 1 i z: e 1 3 a n d s c; . f o r t h . ''1.I s eaker .Redmond : ''Represen tat ive Yourell . Amendment. j j P

! Yourell: ''0h 'yes, we just passed Amendment //2. I had thej #1j . wrong numb er , Mr . S p eak er . '1l s eaker Redmond : ''We11

, we had Amendment 1 was the one . . . '' 1Pi

I u lYourell: A11 right. Amendmeat lz...Amendment //1 changed the )I l

d. , , , , z :or use adoptioa 1wording from slot to devtce . moveI 1,

of Amendment //1 to. House Bi11 2307.'1 l!1

Soeaker Redmond: ''We adopted 1..'f l1 *' 'h l

. !Yourell: HWel1, then we just adopted the one lust ex- l1

'' lplained.

Speaker Redmond: 'îokay: now.'f !

IYourell: 'fThe difference. . . '' !lSpeaker Redmond: HYou just explained 2. Then your motioa is

for the adoption of Amendment Is that correctk''

Yourell: HTwo. Right. Yes.''

l Speaker Redmond: 'îAny discussion? The questionîs on the

Gentleman's motion. Those in favor say 'ayer. 'Aye'.

0 d ' o' The fayes' have it'. The motion carried.ppose , n . !)

1 Amendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?'' ji

' ''Floor Amendment //3, O'Brien, amends Eouse Bill1.Clerk O Brien:1!

2307 on page line 1 and and so forth.'' ii' , r

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, , ISpeaker Redmond: Representative Yourell. lI

Yourell: ''fAfter discussing with the staff of Revenue, they !lI!just advised me, and also Lee Schwartz, that Amendment !1f/2 was adopted, they want to withdraw Amendment //3. I !l

ithdraw Amendment //3 to House Bill 2307.'$ lmove to w!F

S eaker Redmond : ''okay . Amendment 3 i s w i th drawn . Any f urth e!rP11

Amendments?'' ll

clerk O'Brien: 'fNo further Amendments.''i!

Speaker Redmond: ''Third Reading. I don't know, Jimmy. 2548.16$

Clerk OlBrien: HHouse Bill 2548. A Bill for an Act for the!J

Sérface Coal Mining Land Conservation and Reclamation Act.

Second Reading of the Bill. Amendments //1 and 2 were

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adopted in committee.'' '

- . speakerchRedmond: ' ''Aû/k'z.'any'motionïwith'respect to Ameadments '

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. .) Clerk 0 Brien: . ..A.motidn to.table Amendment //2 by Representa- .ll $l ' tive Harrié and Winchester.

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Speaker Redmond: ''Any motion with respect to Amendments 1 andI! . )lf

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!27l II 4 yy .Clerk 0 Briea: A motion to table Amendment //2 by Representa- 11

tive Harris and Winchester.'' '

Speaker Redmond: 'lRepresentative Mcclain, for what purpose do j' i !

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lyou rise? 1I1 ,, . I

Mcclain: Welly Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the 11House, we would ask fbr the motion to table to fail. We !i

recognize the problem that the coal industry has with not i!l

. . .vith confidentiality with core drilling. Let me ex-.(ç

plain to the Membershiy, if I can for a second. I...it's 'fs not on the floor, but wha't happens l) too bad Rich Brummer k

)now is coal companies go into farm communities and onto a :

:farm: and they do exploratory coal drflling to fihd out :

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I ,what kind of coal reserve's underneath that farm land.

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Then vhat they do within three years: they have to give il !l i h logtcal survey. That'rtthat coal drtll ng survey to t e geo

t ji n c o n f i d e n c e , a n d th e f a rme r o r tll e l an d o wne r n e v e r k now s t'

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' exactly what kind of coal reserves are within his land or 'rI

her land, I guessy and so the problem is what Mr. Brummer :.!

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Idid in the House Bill 317 was he put in a Bill which would

mandate that after thtrty months, the geological survey 1l

. Ij may make avaflable to the landovner what kind of reserves 1l

1) are under the...his land. We thought that was a pretty jl I

reasonable thing. The coal industry said they needed k. 1

three years. Mr. Brummer originally had a Bill whichl

required disclosure after one year. We negotiated it out.', . i

IWe came to agreement in Committee to make it thirty' '

l' 'months, so on'thts Billk'whFich is Mr. McMaster's Billy

we tacked on an Amedment, which would put in for thirty

'lé $7/ '- -'x i e .u;j)...* ' k r-.jp, v , G E N E R A L A S S E M B L Y 5 - 1 8 - 7 9

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months agaia in line with the Bill. It's a reasonableI'

l ' . ' c ompromiis'e.. ef ro m. b o k.i:....th: -'c'ùrà.l'.' citadus't ry'. 'ahd. ' Mr . 'Bkummer , .Iwhich h e was represliz t'ing ,' I ' m''. s ure , th e Farm Bureau and I

constituents back'home i'ûd the' fabmlcommunity and coal1

areas, and so we thougbt itbwas a iegitimate compromise.

We put it on the Bill. The coal industry didn't particu- 1. 1

Ilarly like it, but it is a legitimate compromise fromb0th the Farm Bureau, landowners, and the coal iadustry, ii

I ' ! 'and we would ask you to beat back this motion to table I

1thts Amendment.'' 1.

j , * tt Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Friedrich.'' jI - .' -

l Friedrich: 'fWould the Sponsor yièld to a question?'' j.

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j1 Speaker Redmond: 'lHe will.'' l', , . ,. (1 () ! .Friedrich: Well: I wasn t aware that a coal company cou g

l1on land without permission of the landowner without ail

' :d0 it.'' ilease permitting themutoI1Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative...'' . Jt

Mcclatn: ''1'11 be glad to answer that Dwight. What you can do!

is> adjacent to the laad that you waat to someday purchase:. i

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or lease the mineral reserves, you can do a core drilling 7. 1

.. !adjacent to that propertyy also, and find out what kind ofi'

;have the ireserves. But, no matter what, even if you)? l

land...what happens is you have the landowners posi... 541

permission to come on the land and do that coal drilling, ). ?

Ibut you don't necessarily then find out vhat was found, l

lition with coal 1which is legittmate in terms of in compet

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f jindustry versus coal compady. But, what we re doing is lprovtdtag that after thirty months, that geological surveyi

' j' downer vhat ts there tn hts lmust disclose then to that lan

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Friedrich: ''Couldnlt the landowner make it a part of the j. .:

agreement that if you core drill: I want the results? If

1I were the landowner, that'd be one of the stipulations 'll. f 11 ' - ' ' ' 'I d make ' ' ' - ' ' k

Mcclain: ''We11, I think in...on these technical things: Mr. i

y

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S p eaker y I really ough t t o p as s to Mr . Brummer . Wha t th e

Commi t tee d id as a c our t'e'sy-,tàrzMr .-' Bruic:e'r'; 7' who' had .th e

B il 1 and i t p a s s ed o u r Commi t t e e '; t.wa s .' t a d k' t o n t o '; th el loriginal Bill, his Bill. So,Ll'.think't'ind.'fairness we

ought to...I believe...ask leave to.pass 6nto Mr. Brummer,

who is more cognizant of the problems. Mr. Brummer.'' I11

Speaker Redmoad: 'lRepresentative Brummer.u I'

be current 1aw requires that the logs from jlBrummer: ''Yes tloi1 and gas wells be disclosed...be filed vith the State I'

jGeological Survey and be a matter of public record after I

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a period of one year. This creates an inventory of the !'

jInatural resources of the State of Illinois. The coal

industry and the coal is certainly a valutble resource of I11

the State of Illinois, and we ought to have some type of )Ii

public tnventory with regard to that resource. The coal 11

industry <as interested ia a protection of confidentiality'!

of some period of time, and, therefore, we agreed...or 111

the compromise in Committee was thirty months'with regard

to the period of confidentiality, because the coal companièsi!felt they needed a longer period of confidentiality than '

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the oi1 and gas people.n i1Ispeaker Rediond: l'Representative Harris

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Harris: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is my motion and Rep- j. i

resentative Winchester's motion to table this Amendment: II

and the reason for this is the coal industry definitely )'1does not want this Amendment. I think a11 the Members of '!i

the House realize that the coal industry now is in a very lIdition. They did not want this Amendment, because lbad con

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that there's a lack of exploratory right now. and this jI

will put it back further. because theyfre going to have jI

Amendment !six months less time to explore for coal. This :

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will be very bad for the. coal iùdustry.'' '1(

speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Coati.'' :l

. IConti: 'fMr. .speaker and'Ladies and Gentlemen o'f. the'House',

hate to interrupt on this important issue, but for the'

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purpose of an introduction, sitting on the Republican

t s i d e w e have th e Mc Ge e Mid d le S cho o 1 ' f 'rom ..- Ro und- L ake''.L. r.. F'' r ''I - J ''r e p r e s e n t e d b y Do n D e u s t e r , wh o s i t s h e r e , .' B e t .t y a.L o u '. Re e d 'j

' ! w h o i s in t h e b a c k r o w , a n d D a n P i e r c e o v : r ': 14 e r e .; :z. :. M i d d 1 e v ' . .lI ,, lj Class School from Round Lake

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l speaker Redmond: ''Representative McMasters.''

I 11 McMasters: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Since this is my Bi11, !l' I'd like to add a few words in regard to this Amendment l

!//2 that was .put on in Committee. I don't know how many j

lof you actually realize what House Bill 2548 is. It is !' I jI the effort of t:e state of Illtnois co bring our Illinots !. I

lReclamation Laws in compliance with the Federal Surface l

Mining Laws. This is, of course, a specific issue that i'

jwe are doing. We are bringing our laws into compliance 1l

witb the federal laws, and we are doing that with House l1

Bill 2548. 2548 is the product of an Advisory Committee !llthat worked over a period of about three or four months1i

in Producing this le8islation. It is long, some 60 or 70 't1

ages . I want to congratulat e Chairman Mcclain on his :1)I

attention to the Bill in the Environment and Energy

Committee and in the subcommittee that was formed to

it. We spent some six hours going over the iillconsider

and t:e Amendment. I am not in disagreement with what

Representative Brummer wants to do in House Bill 317.

Everything that is included in Amendment 2 is in House

Bill 317, and I think Representative Brummer will agree

with that. I have no argument with House Bill 317. I

guess Dy only concern is I don't think tbis is an Amend-

ment that belongs on legislation that we are going to

send to Washingtoa to show compliance with the Federal

Surface Mining Law. Amendment'//z is not a part of that

package. would really have no effect upon our surface

mining Bill in reality: but since it is in House Bill' .

would rather see House Bill 317 passed, and'l-don't

really think that Amendment 2 is. .belongs on House Bill

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2548. Otherwise, I have no disagreement with the language

and what Representative Brummer is doing.

business, but I think it belongs in a separate'pieceiof kgf

leéislation as he already has it. That's my position on''1>'.?'.-I

Amendment 2, Mr. Speaker.'lllSpeaker Redmond: ''Representative Robbinszî It

1Robbins: ''Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I served on !' l

hich worked on this. and this Bill dealslthe gubcommittee wl

with reclamation of coal land. It deals with strip miningllIt deals with underground mining, and we havey.intlllinoisj

I il a new 1aw wall process: which will cause subsidence to ll

occur soonery and the state belfeves more evehly. Now, if

the farmer that is leasing this coal, or, in some casesy j

I1 would say ltteràlly giving it away, under this law, is ;1

required to, if he receives any money from the coal, pay îIl

for part of the subsidence cost. Now, the farmer has tbe i!

right to know not only what coal is there, but he has a il

right to know the geological rock formation, which are

above and below the coal, and this is also a part of yourl

' core drilling, because they are required to keep this, 7ll

the amount of sand, the amount of water and al1 that kfnd lI

of stuff, is required- .is report of the geological survey!;

And, I really believe the information should be required

to be supplied to the farmer before he ever signs a lease,

but in many instances this is...the lease is not done, so

I think that this is an Amendment put to the Bill: which

should be put in.n

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Borchers.''

Borchers: ''Mru Speaker and fellow Members of the House, I was

on this Committee also, but ao the subcommitteey and I

want t'o point out something tbat made it very clear. And

now Representative Robbins took care of quite a bit of

the information in relation to the core of the drilling. :' 1

' w . uing;But the thing that I want to make clear is there s not

that says that a farmer, 1, for example, or anyone that's

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a landowner cannot make, when we sign the lease...put in!''. ' e e.' .' ' ' ' th e le a' s e , a r e q ui r eme nt t ha t we h ave a r i gh t to know , ' thea ' '' ''. '

;. ... .2' .- . '' : an d th er'e > When we '.s i gn tha t l e a s e , wh a t th a t c o r e i s . We '

I' '.nJ'.y.' ;j. can do that. Most of the farmers or landowners do not dol

1it, and this protects the right of the landowner in the

thirty-month period. But, you can make that a prerequisitq's very im- 1of the lease

, and this is about a thlng that I 'portant on that particular part of the contract.'' l

Ispeaker Redmond: ''Representative Winchester.f' '1

1Winchester: 'lThaak you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen l

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of the House. I think what Representative McMaster said !I

the whole crun'ah of the situation that we have right II1

now. House Bill 2548 has been researched and studied for 1'

nt of time now. This Amendment could 1a considerable amou1i

do some damage to all that time and effort that was put !1Iforth in researching tbat legislation to take care of a ii1 very sertous problem in the State of Illinois. too, j

like.Representative McMaster, somewhat agree with Repre-

sentative Brummer's House Bill but think that this

is the wrong place...vrong avenue for him to attach anl

Amendment. I am one of the Sponsors of the motion to '1I

b1e Amendment //2, and think my main reason for being lta!1

a Sponsor is that ttês going to cost some six dollars and 'li

sekenty-five...it does cost six dollars and seventy-five jI

cents per foot for a coal company to drill, and normally J' I

they drill about a thousand feet, and thatls about six j!

thousand. seven hundred and fifty dollars that they have lIto pay out that any oi1 company can come along and nego- )

!!tiate with a farmer and get that information, and it couldIJ ,

be used without them having to pay one red cent. Oil i!l

companies don't make that kind of information available tol. 1

coal companies. Coal compantes shouldn't have to make i!

that information available to oil companies, and I would

ask support of this motion to table.'î

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Brummer.''

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Brummer : ''Y es , my name has b een nent ioned s everal t imes in

. '' li ( 1: > > o '' 2 d''eb a t e -and 'i t 'la a s' b e en r e f e rr e d t o as th e f B rumme r Amend -

' ':' '. - ' .me'n'c '''. I would . . . McMa s t e r , .ap p ar en t: ly , wa s t h e tn d ivi dua 1 '

'' c'tlj ! ' '. :'. .8 'f ff .er e (i. th'i s Ame ndmen t tn Co mmi t t e e . I was n # t ev en awa r e,1 i

j of the existence of tbis Bill or that this Amendment wasI being offèred. It says McMaster on the Committee Amendr. ..i

I noticed that Representative McMaster suggested 1ment. 1I

that this Amendment be tabled. I feel that it is advisabletj 'that thak be in that area. However: we do have House Billl

hat is coming up, and I...I1m sure we will have an i317 t1 )

1opportunity to get into the debate concerning this as the t1 I

Committee Members, which passed out 317, feel that that is1Ia more desirable approach to the topic, because tbat does !' !

. Irequire the filing in the state geological survey consis- ji

ith regard to oi1 and ltent wtth the logs that are filed w1i

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gas wells. And, I merely wanted to point out that I was

not in Committee at the time this was adopted. I wasn't

even aware of the existence of this Bill. I do appreciate.!;

the Committee iacluding this in there to make it consis-

tent with 317. However, if this Amendment is tabled, thery!

would not be any inconsistency Vith 317. We could do thatil

, 1 1iadependently. 1!

Speaker Redmond: ''Ready for the question. Representative

Mcclain for the fourth timez'

Mcclain: ''Wel1, I gueés we a11 can't count. Mr. Speaker, pl

because of Mr. Brummer's comment, 1'11 withdraw my opposi-!l

i to the mo t ion . '' it o nIl

Speaker Redmond: 'Iet's see. Whose motion was it? Now: we'vel!

!l been...Representative Harris, was it your motion? Rep- jl 1resentative Harris to close.'' 'I

t'' h k ou Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of lHarrls: T an y

, ï(the House. As I have said previously, this Amendment is 'bI

something that would really hurt the coal industry: and ki

. :' ' ' most'of us on 'the floor of the House know the coar in-

dustry in the State of Illinois is now in a real bad

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condition from the standpoint of economics. Since we do

havet thp.kl.sonrde of.wenergy and happen to be in the

S ty t e . o f . I ll.inqis ., I . f ee1 as i f all. o f us want to help

t.h is.4 iip d us t r.;..,' .nJ? : c :us e i t ' s no t o n1y go o d f o r th e s o u thj . - - .-l part of the state,, or the north part of the statey itfsj . ' ,j good for our state and good for our country, and thisI I

1Amendment s'hould be tabled. ..should not be adopted. Thankj'

jou very much . '' l7

I''The question's on the Gentleman's motion 1Speaker Redmond:

to table Amendment Ihose in favor vote 'ayef. Opposed!1

vote 'no'. Have al1 voted who wish? The Clerk will take 1

Ithe record. On this question there's 64 'ayel and 14 'noî'

er Amendments?'f land.the motion carries. Any furth''No further Amendmeats.'' IClerk Leone:

lSpeaker Redmond: nThird Reading. Representative Mahar.'' 'i

lMahar: HThank you, Mr. Speaker. like to ask for a Repub- 'iI

lican conference in room 114 for about an hour.'' (i1

Speaker Redmond; HRepresentative Madigan. Why donet you go .'i

'11 end 1home? I can tell you a few more to take, ahd wef

up this thing. You want me to name some of them thatli wou1d...I won't...I won't name names, but...Representative

Greiman.''

Greiman: HMr. Speaker, vonder if we could have a recess for

a Democratic conference in room 114 that would begin in

about ten minutes?ll

Speaker Rèdmond: ''When will it be back?'f

Greiman: HAbout a half hour to forty-five minutes.n

Speaker Redmond: ''okay. The Republicans want an hour. Is

that correct? So, we'll be back at 11:30. Is that

satisfactory? Representative...okay, the House will stand

in recess for one hour. The Democrats in 1149 Republicans

118. Is that correct? 118. House will be in order.

Priority of call. House Bills: Second Reading. House

Bill 2703. 0ut of the record. 1400.. Did we-doi2703??Thatês what I thought. Representative Totten.'' !

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Tottea: HMr. Speaker, did you finish al1 the Thirds back to

1.7 p - 7 .7)., . t: i k ez .. .5 ç k.t U 2 . r;.S eco nd s '? . . ' ..

S eaker Re dmo zi d : 1' Caù' ''t JE e a' r -Qh'a'.t :yo u s a fd . ''1) .

I , g g 7 g I 4 . . . g : ...t u J : ): .e ' . '..' . t . <.',T O Q t e Z. : . . . ; .

lSpeaker Redmond: 'Q didnfél'jo'kiifo'ugh a11 Second Reading. I'm

now on 1400. Priority of call. 1400. Representativei

Hallock. Representative Ewing.l' l

lEwing: ''Secend-greatest Legislator from Livingston County oni(the Amendment.'' 1

Speaker Redmoad: HYou're.. .nok you're talkfng like Totten.. 1''HO? did we get.o.How did we get Whereuwe are? How lEwing: t

1, r !did we get to 1400? I

yf 1Speaker Redmond: Well, because House Billsy Second Reading, !i

,' lPriority of call. We went rlght downfthe line.1iEwing: IQ was here a11 mo

rntng: and 2700 was never called.î' !Ispeaker Redmond: ''Which one?'' 1t

,, .ycc . ', iEwing: 2I!

speaker Redmond: 'fNo well, there's a hammer on chac one.'' '

.

!''W 11 itis in t*e prtority of call

, Mr. Speaker.'' lEwing: e . .

ii ' !I Speaker Redmond: nWe1l, but that was taken out of the record.

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Eïing: Mr. Speaker: how d it get taken out of the record? ;

1 i f Sponsor. You never called it.'' 1I m the ch e1

'.I know I didn't.'' tsspeaker Redmond:

1Ewing: ''l want to get it on the...'' i1lSpeaker Redmond: 111111 get back to you as soon as we get !!

. ladequate attendance here, we 11 be right back to 14.. ji

to 1700. Is th'àt the one you want? 2700. 1'11 be back iilto you. Representative Telcser.'' s

' !lTelcser: ''Mr

. Speaker. just to get this straight. Represent- jl

. ' !ative Ewing's Bill is oa an Order of Bustness, which you.q.l

have you passed over his Bill, and youVre staying on the l!

same order of Business?'' !l1.speaker Redmond: ''I'm staying on lthe same Order Business.

' Th er e i s an a'dequa t e' a t t ed d'ande..- Whàt I ' lik try in g t o t e 11

you I1m trying to get the things that we can do .t'

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' Telcser: ''Yeah but Mr. speaker if the Sponsor wantà the Bill

c al 1 e d t h en y'o u 'ar e ''ï'ak in g2 'i t''' ' u'p o-n y o ùr s *'ff '' to v io la t e, .

t h e r ul e s . '' - . ' ' . ' ' ' ' . ' . . . ;' - '.- .' :. -'- ; : . r :

S k r Re dmond : ''R r es e'n ta t ive' 'Ewing'' ''''' ' ' .L' ' -' 'p ea e e p . ,.j 'Ewi n g : ''Mr - S p e ake r , th e on ly th i ng th'â t' 'wor'r ie d me i s wlz en

you say youdre on priority of call down beyond me. I just. lI

. .. .1 don't want it to be left. I don't care if itls 1Icalled this minute or five miautes from now or an hour

. 1from now, but I don't want it to be skipped over and then l

lsay wefve been through that Order of Call, because Ii

'

haven't had a chance on it.'l 1'jl ,, , j, ,: t: jSpeaker Redmond: Okay

, you vill be called. It s just t

you were Perfectly obvious with a House that's divided as Ij

closely as this one, that if there isnlt full attendance !I' !

and reasonable agreemeat, that the:vultimate passage of a jI

Bill is very much in jeopardy, and what Ifm trying to do ;i!is to do the things that ve can do without

- .Representativei

, r tTelcser. . :

Telcser: ''Mr. Speaker, I....bèlieve mey I understand how you q

. feel and realiae the pressure youlre under: but youfre l

l . ii.I taking it upon yourself to predict what the House would J

or would not do.l' t. Ii

,, fr !p ',:Speaker Redmond: Okay. Okay. We 11 leave this Order of

I . 1Business now. We'll go to order of Third Reading, and ji!weîll take the Bills that Members want to bring back to j

' . jjthe Order of Second Reading on page 5. 601. ; Where's 1 '

IYourell? Representative Yourell on 601. Third Reading. !

l' iDo you want to return that? 0ut of the record. 752. .',

. , . tlRepresentative Watson. Representative Watson here? 0ut !

' jof the record. 2643. Ewing.'' I

iiEwing: ''Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, !

' !I'd like to leave to take 2643 back to the Order of Third !

!:Reading for an Amendment...second Reading for an Amendmentk''

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speaker Redmond: 'L ..have leave? Representative Madigâh. - 2643.''If , fl 'Madigan: Where s the Bill on the Calendar, Mr. Speaker? :

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speaker Redmond: Hlt's ThirdkReadingk It's on page 7.9'

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xwing : '' I t ' s on th e'...s1zuk t. Dei) at eu cal endar . ''' ' .E.. ' 'lI

Madtgani. ''Has thelAm<ndment been filed7''. j'

Ewing : ''oh , y es . '' . . .1speaker Redmond: 2643. . !

Madigan: ''l have no' objection.'' .' j l' !Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Ewing. Are there any Amend- 1

ments on this Bi11? Amendments from the floor? Does

Representative Ewing have leave to return it to the Order 1. j

of Second Reading? Hearing no oblection: leave is grantedàI

2643 Read the Bi11.'' @* t

1'îHouse Bill 2643. A Bilt for aa Act to amend !Clerk Leoae:

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the Seniop Citizens and Disabled Persons Property Tax i. 'j

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jj jRelfef Act. Second Rèadfng of the Bill.' ,, ,, !j Speaker Redmond: Any Amendments from the floor? j! 1I Clerk Leone: HAmendment //1 amends House Bi11 26'43, Ewing, !

11 .. ''''-' 1 amends House Bill 2643 on page 1 by inserting in line 19j 1

rr 1and so forth. ;l

Speaker Redmond: f'Representative Ewing.'' ll &.t

Ewing: ''Mr. Speaker, w:en thts Bill wasjhpassed out of Committe:yII agreed that this Amendment would be put on. The Bill I'

jclarifies who is entitled to receive the Circuit Breaker '

relief in the case of the death of the person who had k

lapplied for it. The Bill originally said it would only I

jgo to the spouse of the deceased. The Committee Members j

. l' vanted this to include dependent children surviving and i;lltving wtth the decedent, and that's what we'/û-:added. I j1

would move for the adoption of this Amendment.'' l)

nIs there any discussion? The question's on (Speaker Redmond:.. . . . . .: . ,. . .th e G en t leman # s mo t t on f o r th e a do # t i'o n'' o f . 'Améndmen t .12 ; ' ,

' )Those in favor say laye'. lAye'. Opposed 'no' The '

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'ayes' have it. The notion carried. The Amendment's

adopt ed . Any f urther Ameddmen ts ? '' '' '' -'

Clerk Leone: ''No further Amendments.''

Speaker Redmond: HThird Reading. 2750. Page 8. Representv= '

tive Birkinbine, for what purpose do you rise?''

HMr. Speaker, a minute ago you called 752. Mr. $Btrkinbine: llW

atson and I are hyphenated cosponsors. 752 is a Bill

t: h a t I h a v e b e e n h a :i d 1 i n g . W e d i v i d e d r; s e v e r a 1 u '' 6t

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Speaker Redmond: nOkay. 752. Welll call that one. Call 752.7

Iclerk Leone: ''House Bi11...''t , t

!Speaker Redmond: 11752 on page 5.'' I

.11, !Clekk Leone: Rouse Bill 752. A Bill for aa Act to amend the )

lrf jElection Code. Secand Reading of the Bill. !

lSpeaker Redmond: HAny Amenkment from the floor? This...'f I1

Clerk Leone: ''Amendment //1, Birkinbiné, amends House Bill 752 i;!

on page 2, line 19 and so forth.'' 7l

'Birkinbine: HMr. Speaker...'' 1ItSpeaker Redmond: HDid he get leave to return it to the Order 'T

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f S e c o n d Re a d i n g ? Do e s h e h ave 1 ea v e t o r e t u r n 7 5 2 t o io1 the order of Second Reading? Hearing no oblection...Does

that make a difference?''

Birkinbine: ''Mr. Speaker, Amendmené...''

speaker Redmond: ''It's on the Order of Second Reading. Aùd, !l

. lyoutve read tbe Floor Amendmeat, Mr. Clerk?'' Mr. Birkinbiné.'fj

Birkinbine: HAmendment //1 is offered at the request of Mr. ti

Getty on the Democratic side of the aisle. It includes !I

h e 1 an g ua g e t o th e b e s t o f h i s k no w l e d g e i n b e 1 i e f o n lti1the language that would go on the varning on petitions.'' )l

S eaker Redmond : ''Is there any d iscuss ion? The ques tion ' s on l7 Il

the Gentleman's motton for the adoption of Amendment //1. lilThose in favor say 'aye'. 'Aye'. Opposed, 'no'. The i!

'ayes' have it. The motion carried. The Amendmentls

adopted. Any further Amendments?''

Clerk Leone: î'No further Amendments.'' -

Speaker Redmond: 'Qhird Reading. Representative Birkinbine,

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' do you request leave to leave 752 on the Order of Short

- > - ,= . . . . ., .' ,' Debate? Does he have leave? Hearing no objection, leave'.' '' is granted. Representative Ewing. On 601 do you want

'

. j leave to return 6...to 'leavè 601 on the Order of ShortDebate?'' '

' Ewing : ''P leas e . ''. 1

' j' speaker Redmond: ''Does he have leave? No, no. 60...No, it'st:

20...it's 2643 I'm talking about. You leave 2643 on the I1

order of Short Debate. 2750. Representative Jane Barnesz

Paze 8. Jane Barnes here? 2750. out of the record. 16. !' '-'' - j

' tl Hold it. Jane Barnes. Pardon me. Pardon me. Pardon me.'l' j2 7 5 () ..'' l

Barnes: ''I'm sorry, Mr. Speaker. I was back in the ladies'I

room. This is an agreed Amendment that Representative .l'

!Getty felt that the Bill needed, so that the Bill would

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do exactly as Representative Barnes, Jaffe, and Peters .

i shed i t to do y and th e Amendmen t s imp ly st at es t o repo rt iw;

to the appropriate local 1aw enforcement agency any fact ;t

' obtaiaed by an employee of the department within the scope'1

f employmeat wh i'ch such employ des reas o nab ly b e1i eves :o!

constitute a violation of any criminal 1aw ofvthis state :

Iby a foster parent while serving in the capacity of aI

foster parent. Now, what this Bill essentially addresses 1l

' background moving !itself to is somebody who has criminal @. ) .

within the Xtate of Illinois from one county to another jI

county, and People in the new county not being apprised j. ! I' k round and they can start the abuse iof the criminal bac g ,

I' jOf these foster Children a1l over again. I Would ask for ! '

Ila favorabie Roll Call.'' !

' !speaker Redmond: ''Does the Lady have leave to return 2750 to i

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1the order of Second Reading? Leave is granted. It's on j1

Second Reading. Now, have you read tbe Bill on Second l' j

Reading: Mr. Clerk? Will you read the Bi11?'' *1l

' Clerk Leone: ''House Bill 2750. A Bill for an Act to add 'it

sections to an Act creating the Department of Children

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and Family Services. Third Reading of the Bi11. I mean,

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speaker'Redmond: 'lYou read the Floor Amendment?'' .

. .o clerk Leone: ''Amendment //1, Jane Barnes, amends House Billy '

' , 2750 ,by delettng lines 12 through 15 and so forth.''

! speaker Redmond: ''You've heard the Lady's discussion and t:e. 1

. motion for the adoption of Amendmene 1. Those fn favor

say 'aye'. 'Aye'. opposed, 'no'. The fayes' have it.' , j

The motion carried.. Amendxent 1 is adopted. Any further 'IAmendmeatsr' l

lclerk Leone: uNo further Amendments.'' l

1''Thfrd Readfng. Does the Lady ask leave to 1Speaker Redmond:

' 1Ihave it on Short Debate? Is leave granted? l6. Daniels.Il

Daniels on 16.'' j1

Daniels: nI'd ask leave for this to be returned to 'Second 'I' Reading for the purpose of an Amendment.'' 1

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Speaker Redmond: 'fWhat page is this one on? Page 8. Repre- '1I

sentative Daniels has asked leave to have 16 returned to i:

the order of Second Reading. Does he have leave? Hearing!

l kno objection, leave is granted. Read the Billy Mr. Clerkm''1. j

. Clerk Leone: ''House Bill 16. A Bill for an Act to provide for

' j?the regulation of elevators and so forth. Second Reading

. ko f the Bill. '' - )' . j

1. 1speaker Redmond: ''Any Amendments from the floor7'' !l

! iclerk Leone) ''Amendpent //1, Daniels, amends House Bill 16 by )

deletiag everything after the enacting clause.''

l'Representative...whose Amendment is it? lSpeaker Rèdmond: l

Danielsl Represenzative Danieiszl 1)IDaniels: ''Yes, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House,j1

//1' Vould simply clarify the Illinoks jHouse AmendmentI

Safety Law by saying that if a municipality has adopted ' 'lk

the standards set forth in the rules and regulations of I. i

Article 3 of the Amendment, that they would then meet the .1i

' requirements of the Act. Now, municipalities such as

Chïcago and other municipalitïes in the state have already

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adopted standards more stringent apd more regulatory than

the ' rules and tzre'gultat'i:ops' - s e t ''f o r th 'iri S e ct ion 300 , s o

they woul.d, zhave no: 'prrobilem complying w i th this B i11 , b ut

thts' is àeant'. éo cover areas that have not adopted an

Illinois safety law. That's basically the coverage of

this Amendmenty and I would ask for its apprgval.f'1 .

Speaker Redmond: TIs there any discussion? Representative

G e t t y . '' (Getty: ''Would the Gentleman yieldîff Ispeaker Redmond: ''He wi11.H l

. 16Getty: ''Is the effect of this to put Chicago into it? Is l

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at 'yo u . re . . . '' 1that whl

'', it .but chicajoDaniels: Well, every muaicipality would be into ,1 1!would not 'be affected by it, because their elevator safety

. 41law. is much more stringent than the.- than the require-

lments set forth in.Article 3 of the rules and regulations.t

If Chicago dedided to pass an ordinance, which was less lt

restricti/e than the Bill here, then they would be affectedl

i tive ;by it, but since they already have one more restr c

and, of course, they are the primary municipality in the

state, they would not be affected by this Bf11.'f

Getty: ''We11, you are still, by Section 40lB, limiting what

thev mav do . Are you not,?'' l' '' .* '' il

Daniels: f'If they decided to pass an ordinance less restrictivpI

're not going to do. lthan these standards, which they. l

They're aot going to do, because of your high rises and

because of your regulattons and requirements that you 1Ialready bave. You have the most, probably the strictest !I

code in the State of Illinois. If we were to do anything/jl

we were to bring it up to your caliber. That's where We lj

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j'iwould prefer to have, but what we've done is taken the !1

minimum standards, which are the American National Stan- lFi

dard Safety Code for Elevators and adopted that as the 1

standards.''

Getty: ''We11, there's no question then that you do intend, by

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th i s , t o 1 imi t th e a u t ho r i t y o f a h o me r u l e un i t . I s t h a t

right ? 't

Danie ls : ''Only t o.' 'pas s.' léws J'les s res't rid't ive th an what ' s h er e .

'rh a t ' s co r r e c t'..l 's L e s sr'ir.e s t r i c t ive . B e c aus e we d on ' t wan t

an authority...a munic.ip-ariEy saying that we don't want

any laws covering elevator safety codes.''1

. lGetty: ''okày. Now, under the Bill as you introduced it, was ,

not Chicago exempted?'' ,IDanielé: HYes, it was. It was exempted, and one of the reasoni

Ithat we have put them and covered them in general right !

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now is because we have set forth the code,-and the Bill !i

, ihas been changed comptetely now, because we don t have !I

construction permits or anything like that at the present Il

r , 1time. !

IGetty: ''We11, Mr. Speaker, I would like to address the Bi11. iI .

It appears- .'' 1i

''pro ceed . '' 1Speaker Redmond: l1cetty: ''It appears .to me that the Gentleman's Amendment would 'i1

now seek to restrict Chicago, which, as he says, already i1

has the most copprehensive elevator safety laws. It seemssiI

to me that this would be a clear intrusion on home rule (lunits, and I would oppose, for that reason, Amendment IIk II

and suggest te the Gentleman that be migbt want to hold tI

. lit and file another Amendment that would put back into 'j

i,, !it tbe prior exemption that he had. I

'' i naniels.'' 1Speaker Redmond: Representat ve l

,, ' he Amend- 1Daniels: Why don t we forget the Amendment, table tImenty and move it baik to Third Reading:''l

HYou cithdrac the Amendment, is that correct?lSpeaker Rednond: f1The Gentlemaa withdraws the Amendmeat //1. It goes back li

to the Order of Third Readtng. No further Floor Amend- I;

,9 1ments, are there, Mr. Clerk? )t

clerk Leone: ''No further Amendments.'' !i

'Speaker Redmond: 'HThird-Readingk'' A53'in page 10. Represent- 1

ative Sharp.''

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Sharp: HYes, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, Amendments 2l :

th r o u gh 6 .'! s er i e é 'o f f ivé- 'Amendm'en t s 1 ' a r e' ''Ame ndmen t s

th a t h ave b e en a g r e e d b y -''tfh e :.' pa et i e s ''.invo lve'd - in : wo rk tn g

o u t th e di f f er en c es in th i-s . B.i'1l'..'' 7':.Rep r e s en ta t ive Mey e r ,I 'and Mèclatn, tyself, and Rh/resehtaEivès from the various. .

EPA and the Governor's office, and so forth, so could1Ilike to have these Amendments adopted. think Represent-

ative Mcclain would be offering them.uu'l guessy with a l1

brief èxplanatfon if anybody wants.'' l1

Speaker Redmond: MIs there.anv discussion? Does the Gentleman!I

have leave tc return 453 eo the Order of Second Readfng? i

1 is granted. Any Amendments from the floor?''Leave

Isharp: I'I would move for favorable adoption of Amendment !I

HThe question's on the Gentleman's motion forlSpeaker Redmoid:.!lthe adoptton of....Wherefs Amendment...l understand the !

, ibuted. !Amendment is not printed and basn t been distr .!;

Getty: ''Yes, Mr. Speaker, we have it here. Representative

sharp, Mcclain, and Meyer's Amendment.''

1 f, , back to this one in abouti speaker Redmoad: okay. We 11 be

a half an hour. guess it's not completely distributed.

320. Representaitve Getty. Page 9.''

Getty: ''Mr. Speakery I would ask leave to have House Bill

brought back to the Ordek of Second Reading for the pur-

o s e o f a gre ed Amendments . ''p

sp eaker Redmond : '1Do es the Gentleman have leave to return i t

' i D a n i e' l s ' 't o . . . Re p r es en t a t ve .

Daniel s : ''He said f o r agreed Amendments ? ''

s peaker Redmond : ''He s aid f o r th e purpo s e o f an Amendment , I

11guess.

Getty: HI belfeve ehae thae's the case.''

Danfels: ''Can we have an understanding what the Amendment is

that he wants leave to...''

Getty: ''Représentatike 'vinson#s'-Am'efdhent'...''

Daniels: 'Q s it agreed?''

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Getty: HNO: to which I will agree. I am agreeable to Repre-

sentative Vinson's. Amyndmepyj/f , .Daniels: HDoes it take dovnstate opt or...H .

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Speaker Redmoad: HDoes the Geatleman have leaye yo.returm w. . . . . .. , . . . k: 'g w ty ; . .... . . ' ; . ... . . . ' . t . . j .3 2 0 t o t h e 0 r d e r o f S e c o n d R e a d i n g ?

. L e a v e

. J . j : .. g. r. 4 p t, . e .du . jIThe Order of Second Réading. Any Amendments from tbe of lI

lf lo o r ? ': 11

Clerk Leone: HAmendment //2, Vinson, amends House Bill 320 and 11I

so f o rth . '' 1I

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Vinson.n l1i

l1Y s Sir, Mr. Speaker. Amendment II2 will personally 1Vinson: e > l

laddress the problem that was raised in Committee. It willl

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permit the reform of the office tn Cook County without '!1 Traffectiag the office downstate

. I vould urge its adoptiont. 1

Speaker Redmond: 'sRepresentative Getty, any further discussion!i!, :

on the Amendment? .It' ' jGetty: ''Mr. Speaker, have no objection to the Amendment.'!. )iS

peaker Redmond: HThe questioa's on the Gentleman's motion for:I

the adoption of Amendment 2. Those in favor say 'aye'. iE

fAye'. opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have tt. àhe motion 1I;

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carried, and the Amendment's adopted. Any further Amend- j'

1men ts ? '' i?

clerk Leone: ''Amendment //3, Vinson, amends House Bill 320 as jl

i f h '' 'amended by subsect on and so ort . j1

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Vinson.'' E!

Vinson: ''Amendment //3, Mr. Speaker and Members ofcthe House, 'ki

il1 finish the job of/Amendment II2 and create a reporting'M t lisystem so that we know that a volume of cases and can, .

' I;in the future

, address the downstate situation on the (lt

office. I urge its adoptibn.n I$

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ISpeaker Redmond: ''Representative Getty.'l j!

Getty: HMr. Speaker, I have no oblection, and.l think Amend- 1:. i'

ment II3 is a very good Amendment.'î ji

Speaker Redlond: ''The quebtion's on the Gentlemanfs motionffort

the adoption of Amendment 3. Those in favor say êaye'.

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f Ay e 1 . 0p po s ed : ' ao # . Th e f ay e s ' have i t . Mo t ion. . $..' .. j,. jtlj jj' . xmead me n t s .?..!f. ::. ... .. 21 ''' ' ' c a r r i ed . Amendéen t 3 is ado p t e d . ny t er . , .

.. Icl e rk L e o ne : ''Amendmen t # 4 , V ins o n , amead s il ous e Amendmen;; .. # 1. I ,u :. ' - .

11 o u s e B i 1 1 3 2 0 o n p a g e 2 a nd s o f o r t h . '' ' ' '' ' : ? ' Lk '' 1 :: ':' Z ''t o . ' . -' : . ' 'r. . . . . . Q

11 k, . . . ' - :2 . : : ''Speaker Redmond) Representative Vinson. . ..a;g..': .I

Viason: ''Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I'd like to Illwithdraw Amendment #4

. It's out of order.'' I' j

HAmendment 4 is withdrawn. Any furthe'r 11Speaker Redmond:'

1Amendments?'' I1

IClerk Leone: ''No further Amendments.'î l' 1

' jSpeaker Redmond: HThird Reading. 426. Page 9. J. David !l

Jones. 426. Read the Bi11, Mr. Clerk.'' l1clerk Leone: HHouse Bill 426. A Bill for an Act to amend l

. 1' !. Sectioas of the State Employees' Group Insurance Act. j. l

Second Reading of the Bi11.H ' 'k1

Jo ne s : ''Ur S e a k e r . 'k . '' . 1 : ) . - '. p . . j'

ISpeaker Redmond: HAny Amendments from the floor?'' 1I

, , 1Jones: Your staff found an error in the Amendment that was ;

filed, and that has been...Enrolling and Engrossing found j1

an er ro r , and th a t h as b e en co rr e c t ed > ' . and th e. n ek .'J- J.-.. 1l .' !

Amendment has been filèd. Th'+ corrected Amendment.'' iI)

Speaker.Redmond: HWait a minute now.; Read the Amendment, Mr. ll

cler k . '' 'I''Amendment //3, Dave Joaes, amends House Bill 426 1:Clerk Leone:

i, , !' as amended in the title and so forth

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''Do you move the adoption of Amendment 3? tSpeaker Redmond:!The question's on the Gentleman's mùtion

. Those in favor j. l

say 'aye' 'Aye' Opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. ii

The motio'n carried, and Amendment 3 is adopted. Any !'

kfurther Amendments?'' ' 3I

lI ! t / 'Clerk Leone: No further Anendments. (

)fSpeaker Redmoad: 'Qhird Readtng. 447. Representative Reilly.f'

j'iWill you read the Bill, Mr. Clerk? Tt's on page 9.'1 ij '

R ''M S e a k e r I und e r . . . '' . ' '' ' s' .(. .e i 1 l y : r . p ,

Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Reilly.'' i

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Re il ly : '' I b' und ers tand tha t one o f the Amendment s we have has.. :. . . .; r,tb e e n d i s t r i b u tt e d y e t

. '' ' ' ' i' . . t 7' ''f ' 'no t

u .speaker Redmond: HOkay. 0ut of the reiord. Are they passing '

- .7 ':' i t o u t h ow ? We 1 l s wh y d o n ' t y o u t a lk f o r a l f t t 1 e b i t ',

' and then maybe it wi11 be passeé out by the time you

fintsh. Representative Reilly.''

IReilly: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the I'

IHouse. First of all, I would with...there are two Floor :1

/2 and 3. would withdraw Amendment //2.0 tAmeadments, I ,

ISpeaker Redmoad: HThe Gentleman withdraws Amendment 2. Anyilfirther Amendment? 2 is withdrawn.'' 11

clerk Leone: llAmendment #3. j$

Speaker Redmond: HHas 3 been prtnted and distrtbuted? This onJIIl,1 1Clerk Leone: House Bill 525 amends the Criminal Code. Secondi

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Reading of the Bill.''

Speaker Rèdmond: ''Representative Huff.'l

Euff: HThank kou, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of t:e

House. At this time, I would ask leave...oh. it's on

Second Reading. I thought it was on Third Reading.''

speaker Redmodd: ''Does the Gentleman have leave to return 525iIto the Order of Sècond Reading? Hearing no objection, tltleave is granted.'' 1l!Huf f : ''A1l ri gh t . 'î !;!

Speaker Redmond: ''Read the Bi11, Mr. Clerk.'' 1I

guff: ''A11 right. What this Amendment does, it clarifies somel!

technical language with regards to smoke detectors. It 'I. l

defines a smoke detector and the purpose of the device as 1l

an installation for detecting :moke and triggering an tt

alarm wben there is smoke present in its location which jt

gxcedes a predetermined density. It further provides thati. !

a notice, if this 3i11 passed, notice a provision of this

Section be conspicuously posted at, or mear, the entrance

' to any multiple dwelling where smoke detectors have been

installed, and then also defines the term 'multiple

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unit dwelling' as any multiple dwelling containing threex . .../7 ! f . ' ' ''j *y!...ux jz .( .g ,- . . .. . .' . ör mdreq independent lious iùg unl. té . I would move f o r the

x' 7 a d o p t i'on' o f t hi s Amendmen t . 'f

'' S/é'akç r Redmond : ''Wi11 yo u rea d th e B i11 , Mr . C1e rk? ''. : ..''' cleek Leone: ''Amendment //2; Huff amends House Bill 525 on

('page 2 by deleting lines 2 through 5 and so forth.llIlSpeaker Redmond: HRepresentative Leinenweber.''

Leinenweber: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. What is the posture of 1lthis Billz According to the Digest it was tabled pursuantl

to House Rule oa March l4th.Hll

Speaker Redmoîd: HMr. Clerky can you tell me? John? Motionl !l

. * jto take from the table prevails. Recommitted to the

Committee and reported out 'do pass'.''

lLeinenweber: ''What Committee was it recommitted to?''IISpeaker Redmond: HJudiciary 11.': ii

Leinenweber: HAnd they voted it out?'' 11

Speaker Redmond: HThat's what the record says.'î II

' iLeinenweber: ''Could I ask the Sponsor one question then?'' l

''proceed .'' !Speaker Redmond:'fRepresentative Huff was this Amendment agreed t.Leinenweber: ,

1$ to? You agreed to put on in the Committee. or i'B tbis

something that's come up since the Committee just brought

this Bill out...voted this Bill oùt?''

Huff: ''No, Representative Leinenweber. This Amendment is

pursuant to the agreement in the Judiciary 11 Committeeà'l

Leinenweber: ''In other words, you agreed to amend the Bill on

second Reading, and they votéd it out?''

Huff: nThat is correct.''

Leinenweber: ''Thank you.'l

speaker Redlond: ''Further discussion on the Amendment? Rep-'

yjresentative Leinenweber, are you satisfied?

Leinenweber: ''Yes, I'm satisfied.'f

speaker Redmond: HOkay. The question's on the Gentleman's

motion 'for tie adoption of Amendment 2. Those in favdr '

say 'ayeî. îAye'. Opposed, 'no' The 'ayes' have it.

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The motion carried. The Amendmentîs adopted. Any furtherj '-

.. k . . . , : .. . ; . . .. : . f u c ty . .a u' j, yjs a u : s ? ' 1

Cl'e.rk Leone': ''No fur t.herr Amendments . î'l .

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I Sp eake: Redmo ndu: .' '.'.Thi çd. Reading . 6 9 0 . ''ll I k, ,,! Clèrk Leone: House Bill 690.l11 speaker Redmoad: ''Representative Mcpike on the floor? Out of

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lthe record. 1327. Mcpike. Just called 690. Do you wantI

' to return that to the order of Second Reading? Somebody 1t

put it up there. You donlt want it? 6...oh: okay. I f1

lhave a list here that shows Bills on Third Reading that...il

Okay. 1375. Representative Schraeder.'' 1

l schraeder: ''Mr. speaker, what page of the Digest? I can't

find it. I'm lost this morning.''I

speaker Redmond: HWe1l, that would be page 11, but wefve l1!

taken that one out of the record. Now, 1375 on page 18.1'

schraeder: ''Thank you.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Is Representative Katz h'ere? Guess not.

Take that one out of the record. 1408. Representative

Ewing on page 19. Representative Ewing, do you desire tol ,1

return this to the Order of Second Reading?1 b' t I

. Ewing: Yes, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker Redmond: ''Does he have leave? Read the Billy Mr.

Clerk. Representative Getty.''

Getty: ''Mr. Speaker, I would not oblect as long as I was'

assured by the Sponsor that it's his intention to addrqss

this Amendment and then move it back to Third.''

Ewing: ''Okark''

speaker Redmond: HHe said he indicates he will. Any Amend-

ments?l'

Clerk Leone: ''A Bill for an Act to amend House Bill 1480, the

Revenue Act of 1939. Second Reading of the Bill. Amend-

ment //1, Dyer, amends House Bill 1408 on page 1, line 9

by inserting and so forth.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Dyerz'

Dyer: ''Mr. Speaker, I'm offering this Amendment with the con-

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sent of the Sponsor of the Bi11: Representative Ewing. It

' é-ii' 1'# ' .'é d d s' v.'t'h%A; 'h'r a s' eJ': 's ? '' ho t f o r ' r e . .' . no t f o r p r o f i t r e - 'p p ,

' t t r ement Ehoméq'. : . . ' I .'movè' i f o r '. T t'h e' Jado p t i on o f th e Amend - . '

l 1 ; . , . ' . . . 1.L zb u ; .1: i! 11 t: . .. . :J .. - ' . :- . l7! .:'' *2.' 62 ' ' . :'

. . . lSp eaker Redmond. : î'Any' ''dis ctiïà iùn? ' The ques t ion 1 s on the Lady 1 '?

. ' jmotion for the adoption of the Amendmeat. Representative 'j

's aodding his head. l' Ewing is shaking his hpad. Now he I's on the notion. Thbse in favor say laye'. 1 lThe question

l(

lAye#. Opposed, 'nol. The 'ayes' have it. The motion 1

carriedy and the Amendmentls adopted. Any further Amend-t j

iments 7'.' l'

jClerk Leone: '1No further Amendments.'' I

lSpeaker Redmond: MThird Reading. 1542 on page 20'. Represent-l1!

ative Birkinbine. Representative Birkinbine requests 'l1

1542 be returned to the Order of Second Reading. Does he j1

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have leave? Hearing no objection, leave is granted. Read'il

the Bi11, Mr. Clerk.'' l1E!

Clerk Leone: HHouse Bill 1542. .A Bill for a'n Act to amend tS

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Sections of aa Act to revise the 1aw in relation to town- '. 1

! 1ship organization. Second Reading of the Bi11.H 7

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speaker Redmond: ''Representative Birkinbine.'' y'

j%Birkinbine: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Amendment I'm offer-11

ing is designed to preclude the possibiltty that people 1t. I!' could be taxed tvice for the same service. It was suggestr

ed by Jack Willfams.'ll

speaker Redmond: ''Is there any discussion on the Gentleman's jI

ion? Representative Conti.'' imotI' . j

conti: 'fYeah, we know what Jack Williams'' Amendment did, and lil

for what purpose: John? What are you doing: on the --. ' yl

' jtaxa t :i. on ?. '' z. :. ,.: .:'

jR dmond: HRepresentative Gettyzî lSpeaker e

lConti: H...fire district, or what is it?'f l

' j,, i sbutedy'' !Getty: Mr. Speaker, has this been d str $

. )' S eakà r Re dmo n d : '''H'as'' th e' . . .'N o , ' i-t' ''h as zïo t . Wh e r e w'o u1d b e i

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' the place to leave this one. on Second or put it back on !

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lhird? Mr. Birkinbine'. Huh? Probably better to leave it

. (j . ..ug (:.z..u. . yoxpà se. :j..é ( . . y ., p u u. i t b a c ko n Th i r d Re a d i a g , s a g a n .

up t o th e 0'r d e r o f ' 'rh i.k.d.''' Read in g. k$ ..'P à'g e .i21r .:' ' .1 57 9 . 'Rep -. '

re s entat ive Mccla in . ' Mc Cl a in'?' 15 7'9.'k. . 'Do ' yo u van t that ?

0 k ay . T a k e t h a t o n e o u t ci f . '.t h.d' r e c o'r d . 1 7 6 2 . R ep r e s e n t -

ative Molloy . I wonder if the f ormer Member . Edgar , will lilplease sit down? Representative Edgar, will you' please .1

sit downk Reilly, will you sit down? Hallock. We can't i!

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see Representative Molloy and what a loss. Representativel

Molloy.''l

''I would like leave of the...Mr. Speaker, I would iMolloy:11 f

the House to return House Btll 1762 to the jlike leave oI

order of Second Reading for the purposes of an Amendment.fql

''Does t:e Gentleman have leave? Leave is lSpeaker Redmond:$1

ted. Read the Bill, Mr. Clerk.'' 1gran16

Molloy: t'This Amend...'' 'l1

Clerk Leone: HHouse Bill 1762. A Bill for an Act to enact a jnew Credit Union Act and repeal the present Act. Second

Reading of the Bi11.'î

Molloy: HTbis Amendment..z! .

Speaker Redmond: ''Any Amendments...p''

Molloy: ''This Aiendment clarifies on page 30...99

Speaker Redmond: ''Wait a minute.'''

Molloy: '% ..by adding after line 30, 'nothing in this Act

shall be constructed .to allow credit unions to engage in

the retail sale of insurance to their membersl. I would

ask for the adoption of that Amendmeat.''

speaker Redmond: ''Have you read the Amendment, Mr. Clerk?''

Clerk Leone: ''Amendment //2, Molloy. amends House Bill 1762 on

' page 30 b'y ,adding after lines 30 and following.''

Speaker Redmond: ''You've heard the Gentleman's discussions.

The question's on his motion. Those in favor say 'aye'.

'Aye' opposed, 'nof The îayes f have it. The motion

car r i ed , and Amendmen t ' 2 i 6 ad o p t ed . An# 'f fir'th eè Amend-

m e n t s ? '' I

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. Clerk Leone: ''No further Amendmentsz'

' S p e a k e r R e dmo nd : 'î Th i r d Re a d i n'g .. ' ' 'No t y e t . ' : . 1. 9 i' ..2 &v,+.' r?'R e/'r e s en't .c ''- '

a t iv e . . . i t î s o n p ag e 2 5 . D i d yo u . r ea d..'219t1,2 , .'cMra.. ïcler k ?''''' . -

C1e rk Leone : ''Ho us e B il 1 19 12 . A B i 11 f o.r an , Act' , t'o'.oamend l . .

a S e c t i o n o f a n A c t t o r e v i s e t h e l aw i It ' r e 1 A t i o n '- t o '

injunction. Second Reading of the Bi11.''. l. l

, ,, lSpeaker Redmond: 'Representative Catania. . j

lCatania: HThank you, Mr..speaker and Members of the House. I .lk leave to return 1912 to Second Reading, so I can offerlas

an Amendment.'î# ;

!Speaker Redmond: HDoes the Lady have leavel Hearing no ob- 1l

jectioa, leave is granted. Read the Bill. Mr. Clerk.

House Bill 1912 onlclerk Leone: ''Amendment //3, Catania, amends'

jpage 1 by deleting line 29 through 32 and so'forth.'' àI

Catahia:-Llll believe I fïled a motion to table Amendment #2. lt. 1

!. I move t o tab le Amendmen t # 2 wh ich. .was adop t ed ia Commi t tee . ''

. j''I there any discussion? The questfon's on lSpeaker Redmond: s

l. t' the Lady's motion for the adoptioa of Amendment ?/3.'F ;

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Catania: HNO, to table Amendment 2.'1 '.1' j

Speaker Redmond: Hoh, pardon .me. The motton is to table 'i)Amendment //2. Any discussion? The.question's on the. fiLady's motion to table Amendment //2. Those in favor say l1

' # 'A e' Opposed, 'no'. The îayes' have-it. The 6aye . y . jl

lmotion carried...tabled...Amendment //2 is tabled. Any j' jfprther Amendments?u l

!''Amendment #3, Catania, amends House Bill 1912 iCl

erk Leone: !lon page l by deleting line 29 through 32 and so forth.'' jI

''I'move to adopt Amendm'ent //3 which was requested by !Catania:. t

the staff as a language cleanup Amendment.'î j' j'

S eaker Redmond : ''Any discus s io n? The ques t ion ' s on the . . . IP ,' '

jRepresentative Abramson.'' ' '!' :

Abraason: ''Will the Sponsor yfeld? Can you explain what the J1

1 , . IAmendment does, please? ;lJ

catania: ''Yes, tt changes the nudber 2l' to'27 in'line'A; and''' i

at the end it restores crossed out language vhich had

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indadvertently been deleted by the Reference Bureau when

they d r a f t e d Amendmen t 2 . '' -' ' .-f '.% C' ' '' - ':

Ab r ams o n : ''Do e s t h is Amendmen t mak e i t a Cl'as s A.' .mis demè aao r , '..-.'

t o v i o 1 a t e t h e i n j u n c t i o n ? '' i: n z- .--.. v: : .:- .':: ..' ' j!l d Ca t an t a : ''No i t k ee p s i t a C la s s C m is d emeano r . .Ke e p s th e.:s. 1. j.11 '

l 1' substance exactly the same as it Was in Amendment //2Z111

Abramson: ''Thank you.'' I, f

'fI move for the adoptv..'f lCatania:!I

Speaker Redmond: HAny further discussion? The question's on l'1the Lady's motion for the adoption of Amendment 3. Those .1i

, v lx v c d v , Tue fa es' Iin favor say aye . ye . ppose , ao . ylIh

ave it. The motion carried, and the Amendmentls adopted.''

jAny further Amendments?'' lj

clerk Leone: ''No further Amendments.'f ll. I

speaker Redmond: ''Third Reading. 2104. 0ut of the record. ël

2155. Representative Reilly. Hurry up. Hurry up. Rep- y1!

resentative Reilly on 2155.6' Ili

Reilly: ''Yes, Mr. Speaker. I have. at the flerk's desk, 'i..f' il

speaker Redmond: 'Q t's page 29.'' !ll

Re i 11y :' '' q. . . a mo t: i o n t: o t ab 1 e Ame n dme n t . ' # 1 . ''

' Speaker Redmond: 'fDoes the Gentleman bave leave to return i1

- l2155 to the Order of Second Reading? Hearing no objection',i

,1 'jleave is granted. Will you read the Bill. Mr. Clerk? ll

Clerk Leone: 'lHouse Bill 2155. A Bill for an Act to revise ;i

' !the 1aw in relationqto the submission of the state budget !

iand relative appropriation Bills. Second Reading of the j

IB tll . '' l

l''The GentlemanVs.

wove to'table Amendment... lSpeaker Redmond:1' )

Committee Amendùent //1. Those in favor say 'ayef. Rep- 'jj '

resentative Getty.'' l$l

G tty: ''Mr Speaker will the Gentleman yield?'' 'e . ,. i!

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R e i 1 1 y : ' ' Y e s . '' !:

Getty: What is the purpose of tabling Amendment //17 1... ,!

y o ur s t a f f , in th e p e r s o n o f B i 11 H o 1 1 an d , r d i s c'o v e r e d ''a ': ! '

technical problem with it, so the program, if you#re

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a g r e e ab le : wo u 1 d b e t o t ab 1 e Ame n dme n t # 1 , a d o p t Ame n d m e n tqb tk C

.' ... - ... v o .a. e . ' # 2 wh i ch .9 o u s t a f f .d r e w , and 't h e n I h av e a ' t h i r d Am en d -. ' '. '.: . ..

. ..'*' !: - ' men t wh ich adds ano ther S ec t ion to the B i11 . 'f '1 ',Reilly: No, no objection.''

1 speaker Redmond: ''The questionfs on the motion co table .'

Ameadment 1. Those in favor say raye'. 'Aye'. Opposed,

Ifno '. The 'ayes' have it. The motion carried. Amendment

//1 is tabled. Any further Amendments?'' Iclerk Leone: ''Amendment //2, Reilly, amends House Btll 2155 on 1

page 1 by deleting lines 1 and 2 'and so forth.''i ;

$speaker Redmond: 'lRepresentative Reilly.'' !

lReilly: HYesv Amendment //2 just does in technically correct l

lform what we attempted with Amendment //1. I would move 1

Ithe adoption of Amendment //2.91I

HA discussion? The question's on the motion'Speaker Redmond: ny

f , . A. , , lto adopt Amendment 2. Those in favor say aye . ye .l

. it

opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The motion carried. J!

Amendment 2 is adopted. Any further.Amendments?'î

Clerk Leone: ''Amendment //3, Reilly, amends House Bill 2155 as

amended by deleting Section 3 and so forth.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Reilly.''

Reilly: HThank you, Mr. Speaker. Amendment //3, which again

I've discussed with tbe Democratic appropriation staff,

simply puts into the Bill another Section dealing with

footnoting of appropriation Bills to document legislative

intent. This is an attempt to put into 2155 a Bill which

is not on the floor, but which was originally sponsored

by the Chairman of Approp I and 11 and by the hinority

spokesman of Approp I and 11 simply in agreement to merge

this a11 into 2155. I would ask' the adoption of Amend-

ment //3.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Is there any discussion? Representative

Getty.''

* Getty: ''Mr. Speaker, I do not rise in opposition to i't.-

However, I would like to ask the Chair to rule whether

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this would raise any possible Constitutional question.l. In

..' . -- l.-exp.ressing legi'slative intent, could that be interpreted

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'' 'a s b e in g a s ub s t an t ive i s é ue in an ap p ro p r i a.t i ons B i 11? '1

.- . ..- t '' Speaker Redmond: MThe Parliamentarian indicates that Constitu-

.,.t.yt' .' tionality is not a proper matter for us to rule op. Any-

f ' h Gentleman's motion lthing urther? The question s on t eI

r for the adoption of Amendment 3. Those in favor say 'aye';I

' Opposed, 'n0Q The îayes' have The motion 1'Aye . Icarried. The Amendment's adopted. Any further Amend- I

lm e n t s ? ''i . jl ckqrk Leone: ''No further Amendments.'' j

j'lThird Reading. 21...Wait a minute aow. 1Speaker Redmond:

214...2104. No. 2149. Campbell. That's on page 29.

2149. Will you read the Bill, Mr. Clerk?''

Clerk Leone: HHouse Bill 2149. A Bill for an Act to amend 1l

; lthe Illinois Marriage and Dissolution of Marriage Act.

Second Reading of the Bil1.b'

Speaker Redmodd: ''Does Répresentative Campbell request leave

to return it to Second Readingî Does he have leavek

Hearing no objection, leave is granted. Read the Bill,Mr. Clerk. Well, he has to read the Amendment.''

Clerk Leone: HAmendment //1, Getty, amends House Bill 2149 on

page line by delçting and so forth.''

Speaker Redmond : ''Representative Campb e11 . Who ' s

U known ': ''Ge t ty . ''n

sp eake r Redmond : ''Repr es entat ive Ge tty . Wh at Amendment

is it ? Amendment . . . Repres entative Getty on Amendment 1

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Ge t ty : ''Mr . S p eaker , Membe rs o f th e Hous e , wh at Amendmen t //1

would do would clari f y th at under normal circums tances ,

bo th parents o f a child , seeiing to get approval o f

marriage, seeking to have a County Clerk issue a marriage

license: vould be required where they are underage.

However, where one of the parents is not available, and

there is only one parent who is available who may...he

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may make the affidavit that the second parent is not

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' Speak'er'Redmond: 'lRepresentative Griesheimer.''

Grièsheimer: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe this Amend- IlIment was suggested by myself when the Bill was inIJudiciary Committee

. and the Sponsors of the Bill agreed .lto the Amendment. It does exactly what I feel will 1

appropriately correct this Bi11, and I would urge thei

. li of the Amendment.'' 1adopt on

1

speaker Rédmond: ''Any further discussion? The questionfs on

'Amendment 1 to lthe Gentleman's motion for the adoption ofil1

f , lHouse Bill 2149. Those in favor indicate by saying aye u

1'A î 0 osed 'no' The 'ayes' have it. The motion 1ye

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carried, and the Amendment's adopted. Any further Amend- ''i

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!? ', Iments .

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lSpeaker Redmond: 'lThird Reading. 2373'. McBroom on the floor?i

i 2373. 2373. Representatsve Ryan requests that 2373 be t' jreturned to the Order of Second Reading for the purpose é

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f an Amendment . Do es h e have leave ? Hear ing no ob j ec t io2 sol

leave is granted. Any Amendments from the floor?'' iiIclerk Leone: ffAmendment //2, Totten, amends'House Bill 2373 as !

lamended in subparagraph D and so forth.n

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speaker Redmond: 'fRepresentative Totten.''

Totteal ''Did we adopt Amendment ?/1 on the floor?''l

Speaker Redmond: HYeah, Amendment //1 was adopted in Committee.c.' j

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!Totten: ''okay, then I want to withdraw Amendment //2 and go !l

with Amendment //3.'' 'lR dmond: ''Committee Amendment...'' lSpeaker e

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'ro t t en : ''We11 wa i t a minu t e . '.' :' !

Ispeaker Redmondt l'Amendment //2 is withdrawn?'' l!

i en i ' ''Do '-yo u' hàve .Amend . . . Do yotz 14 av'e ' Amendmen t 3? '' ('r o t: :

''Do we have Amendment 3?'' lSpeaker Redmond:

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r, 'Totten : No , Amendment 2 is...Amendment 2 is correct on this

lf q . . .O n e - ' - ' ' . ' n z ' z . .

S p eaker Redmond : ' .': 'IWC l l k Cw.a i t ia . .minp t e . n ow . Ar e yo u w i t h -

drawing 2?''

T o t t e n : '' N o ' ' . c* - ' ' ; , .

Speaker Redmond: ''Okay. Did you read Amendment //2? Proceed, lIl' Represeatative Totten

.''

I . ' ITotten: 'fWould the Clerk read Amendment //2? You don't have 1' )

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an Amendment //3, do you? okay. Then this is the one. ki

lAmendment ?/3 just makes some technical changes and puts!

the language Amendment //2.$î l1I

Speaker Redmond: HWe11, wait a minute now. Wefre on WhatIhappened to 2?''

Totten: ''I'm sorry. Iêm on...I'm on...'' I!!Speaker Redmond: lfAmendment 1 was a Committee Amendment.'' i11

Totten: ''Amendment f/2 provides the substantive lahguage to!I

create the Bank and Trust...recreate the Bank and Trust '

Company Fund. The Ameadment has been worked out with the

staff, the Comptroller, and the Commissionery and thel

Sponsor of the Bill, aad everybodyfs agreed on the Amend-- j:t

ment, and I would move its adoptionz' 1l

S eaker Redmond : ''Do yo u have Amendment Mr . Clerk? Okay . !Pl:

The question...Aùy dtscussion? The question's on the 11IGentleman's motion for the adoption of Amendment 2. Thoseli!in favor say 'aye' 'Aye' oppos'ed 'no' The 'ayes'. :, .

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l1lhave it. The motion carried. The Amendment //2 is adopted;

Any further Ameadments?'f

'fso:further Amendments.'' 1clerk teone:I

Speaker Redmond: HThird Rèading. 2735. White. 2735. I#m !I. 1

talking about 2735. Representative White. It's on page i137. Representative Whtte.'' i

' j!White: HMr. Speak...oh, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen. 1

1 !of the House, I'd like to have leave to return House Bill ' I

!' S icond Rèading .,'' i2 7 35. t o.z 4

jf t .Speaker Redmond: Does the Gentlemyn have leave to have 2735 .

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returned to the Order of Second Reading? Hearing no

objection, 'leave fs granted. 'Are'theret'any''Amendients

f r o m t h e '. f lo o r ? '' ' ' $. t : :'' ' ' ' 't .' . ' ' . ' '. :7. . . .s. J: . , . .' . .

Clerk Leone: HAmendmentv/z; White, .amen'ds House Bill 2735 on

page 1 by deleting.'thè chapter heading and so forth.''

Speaker Redmoad: ''Representative White.'''I 11 White: ''Mr. Speaker and Ladies.,and Gentlemen of the Rouse, )

Ithe change that Itd like to initiate is very simple. We l

Ivant to, if the Bill were to pass, the chapter would be i1lincorrect in the Bill

. So, a11 we want to do is make a$

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change to put the right chapter' into the Bil1.H 1l1

speaker Redmond: ''Is there any dtscussion? The questionês on l' j

the Gentleman's motion for the adoption of Amendment 1. 1I

f 1 ' 'A ' 0 osed 'no' The 1Those tn avor say aye . ye . pp , .t

'

!'ayes' have it. The motion carried, and Amendment //1 is ii; ',adopted. . .Amendmeat //2 is adopted. Any further Amendments1i

clerk Leone: HNo further Amendments.'' I!

speaker Redmond: ''Third Reading. 'Wait'a minute. Wait a iih

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minute. A fiscal note has now been requested, Represent- :. i

ative White. Wefll have to leave it on the Order of .lSecond Reading. Who fequested the fiscal note? Schlickman.

i7. Representative Daniels. It's on page 21. 1617. 1161 .

tP a e 2 7 . Rep r e s en t a t ive Dan i e l s i' eq ue s t s tha t th a t b e 'j8

lréturned to the order of Second Reading. Is that 'correct?ll

lDoes he have leave? Hearing no objection, leave is jI

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1:granted. Any Amendment from the floor?j

clerk Leone: ''Amendment //1, Daniels, amends House Bill 1617 on!I

, f ', lpage 1, line 32 by deleting 'three' and inserting two . jIspeaker Redmond: ''Representative Getty.'' ll

''Mr speaker, bas this Amendment been distrtbutedr' !cetty: . I

. lSpeaker Redmodd: ''They tell me it has not. Do you want to l1

!explain the Amendment? Representative Daniels.'' :

t

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Daniels: f'This is an agreement by Judge Skully oflthe Supreme 4

Court, the administratoo''s'offite; to reduce the number

of judges in Dupage from three to two. That's a11 it

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does . though t it was d is tributed . ''

j S p eaker Redmond 1 ''okay . ' The * qt'zèà t iton'' s . on z th e . Gent leman f's-mo t i o n f o r th e ado p t i on . o f '' Amen dmen t # l'k' '' '?'Th o s e . in . f avo r' '.''

s ay ' ay e ' r A e f 0 o s e d .. .# no * ' . . Tli e '7' J ay es lât' h éve'.. i t'. y . PP , . .. ; .. .

Th e mo t i on ç. a r r i ed . Th e Amendm%n t ' s ' 'a do p t e d ) s Any f ur th e r

Amyndment s ? '' !lClerk teone: 'îNo further Ameadments.''

HThird Reéding. 2741. Representative 1Speaker Redmond:l1Dawson

. 2741. whtch appears on page 38. Representatfve 1l

Dawson requestssthat be returned to the Order of Second IiIReading. Does he have leave? Rearing no objection, leave:I

is granted. Any Am'endments from the floor; Mr. Clerk?'' 1

Clerk Leone: ''Amendment //3, Catania, amends House Bill 2741 1

las amended by deleting the title and inserting in lieu iI

thereof che following.'' t1l

speaker Redmond: ''Representative Catania.'' ';

i iCatania: ''Was that Amendment 3? okay. ask leave to vith- !

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draw Amendment 3, and I#d like to offer Amendment 4.11 l1Speaker Redmond: HThe Lady withdraws Amendment //3. Would you

read Amendment 4?.'

clerk Leone: HAmendment //4, Catania, amends House Bill 2741

as amended by deleting the title and inserting in lieu

thereof the followtng.''

Catania: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House.

Amendment //4 would add a provision, which is now part of

federal law. It would make it part of Illinois State law,

which says that houseûold workers, <ho are employed more

than eight hours per week in the aggregate, in any work

week, or who receive wages from one employer in excess of

fifty dollars in a calendar quaèter, would be eligible

the minimum wage: and it makes exclusions beyond the

federal 1aw that people who provide casual babysitting orI

companionship for aged or infirmed persons, or who are

live-in employees would not be eligibl'e.'''fl-movebfor''fhe

adoption of Amendment //4.1'

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Speaker Redmond : ''Repres entative Deus ter on the adop tion . 11

'' ' ' Deus t e r : '' I h ave a . q ues t io n . I do n ' t und er s t'an d - th is anmttch . ' en ;t : = 1 :. .'t ''

ab o u t th e r e la t i o n s h i p b e twb e e n f e d er a 1 ' 1 av r a n d és t a tj q .. lai.k -, ; ?: :. .

I f i t ' s f e d e r a 1 1 aw , d o e s n ' t i t a 1 r e a d y a p p ly - t o - a 11. J. .', J: s .i c ' . . gu . . '1' w e ' r e t a lk i n g ab o u t b ab y s i t t e r s , a n d w' o u 1 dn .!.t ' t h i s '...a pp..1 y . . .1 . .. . . . .

ihousehold already, if it's ito every mother and father or every

11.federal law? Why do we aeed to have it in state 1aw?''1i

catania: ult doesn't employ...apply to mothers and fathers at i1I

, ' 1all. It says, exclusive of the employer's parents, :1.

spousey or childî, but what it does is to make part of !listate 1aw what is part of federal 1aw along with the 1l!

exdlusions, which I mentioned, the casual'babysitting and 1l

the companionship for aged or infirmed persons. Those arel!.

' jnot excluded under federal laws, so thfs would give us 11 '11

those exclusions.'' ji

, , . iDeuster: Well, my question is this. If you take a typical. . !

!family with childreny assuming there's a mother and 1

lfather in the household and some children, and this would1iprovide that casual babysitters are exempted from the:I

minimum wagey but, the contrary, wouldn't it be that !li .those who are not casual babysitters or those who are ,

. Ebabysitting quite regulàrly would be covered by the l

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federal law.'' 4l

Catania: ''Yes, people who work on a regular basis in a house- 6i1

uold for mor'e than eight hours in any work week or who li' jreceive wages in excess of fifty dollars in a calendar i

S :g !quarter would be covered just as they are now under .. . l

federal 1aw.'' j'

jDeuster: ''Why do we need the state law if they're already i

!î, (covered by federal law:

I''Just so that we have our state law in compliance, :Catania:

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and so that if someone has problems, they can go to the E

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State Department of Labor and not have to 'depend on the ll

G f 1 i e f '' . ' ' . S'- -' '* '' -' *'' ' - ' : ''e ' * - ' 1' ' ' ''Federal overnment or re . . . t' IDeuster: ''SO, you'll go into state court to enforce it. Would

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that b e th e e f f e ct ? ''

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Deus t e r : '' Th ank y ou . '' '' ..'st z'. ... :'w.. 2 t i . q1s

peaker Redmond: ''Represntative Kempiners.'' ' .A1-'

jKempiners: ''Wel1, I think that Representative Deuster asked I1some of the questions that I wanted to ask, but the way ii

I would understand and read the synopsis of this Amend- :

meat, it would appear as if you have a woman come in andI

clean your house on an afternoon...one afternoon a week; !'jif in a four-month period, she's paid more than fifty :l

dollars, she would be covered by the minimum wage law. 1l!

Is that correct?l' 1:1

catanta: ''If you're not paying it now, youfre breaking the i1!

federal 1aw.'' 11i

Kempiners: Hokày, the next thing is that as Representative ,

Totten says, 'Why should we have two bad laws?'. lheï.next

one is 'How do you define casual babysittiag?' Those of

us in our particular profession are gone quite a bit, and

let me tell you something. My babysitting fees are pretty

damn high: because there isn't at least two or three1

nights a week when wefre home that I...my wife and I

aren't at some function in our district. Now is that

casual babysitting if we have the same high school girl

babysitting with our children in the eveningk''

Catanta: 1'I would expect that that would be called casual

. babysitting.f'

Kempiners: ''We11 what you suspect and what the damn court

system is going to interpret are two different things.

Why don't you define casual babysittingk''

Catania: ''I would expect that Representative Dawson would belhappy to agree to that kind of an Amèndment, but it's his .

Bill, and I'm certainly wiqling to go on record saying

that it would be legislative intent that high school

. studentsy Wh0 babysit in the evening at your housefxwould

not be covered under this.' Bi11.''

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Kempiners: ''Tbadk ybu. Maybe we ought to put this Amendment

>$ !) s .- . . . - . . $. . -o n ' à, n d ' t 11 e n ' ' d e f é a t è h e B i 1'1 J 11 ' ' '

.-.,.'..r r', ' :; S p e ak e r Re dmo n d : ''Any tll in g f ur th e r ? Any th in g f ur t h er ? Th e l'

tion for...Representative t'.'a?..a' - .. question's on the Lady's ao..--: . . Le tnenweb er . '' 1

lLeinenweber: ''Welly I'm étill a little bit confused. The 1

l!answers that the Sponsor of this Amendment gave to Rep-1

resentative Kempiners. How do you define casual babyr .E: ''.. ii

sitting?'' 1

ICatania: 'Q would define casual babysitting as babysitting :l

,, ithat was doae by someone... !

lLeinenweber: HNo, not you, but hov's the...hoc does the Amend-l

't or the Bill define it?fî 1,men

ICatania: 'Qhe Bill simply alludes to casual babysitting, but I

ii

I have said that I would regard casual babysitting as !$

babysitting which was done by someone who was not a i1

permanent employee of a household.'' i)

Leinenweber: ''We11 I have tbe same fears that Representative

Kempiners has expressed. What you and I may think really

isn't a1l that important. It's what the Bill or the law,

if it makes it that far, actually would say that wouldi

count, and I think when wefre getting involved, virtually ii

every economist of any stature whatsoever, Mr. Speaker,

very briefly on the Amendmentv has concluded that the

only effect of a minimum wage 1aw is to create unemploy-

ment in those areas where people currently earn less than

the minimum wage, which would, of course, include your

babysitters: many other casual types of jobs. So, any

extension of this Bill, and: if this Bill provi'des any-

thing at a11 thah the Sponsor seems to indicate. welre

lust conforming with the federal law except in one or

two places. If it has any practical effect at all, other l

( .than that, it would tend to increase unemployment in , .. !

G t'hose areas where we read; time and time .again, we have-' l

the greatest unemployment problem, and that is the young

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and extr emely unsk i1l ed , tho s e pe o p1e who do the mo s t

. ,. - ... . - - :- c n. :, : .1. > t: e s' o f j'ob s 'and ' they R r e th e ty p% s o f J o b s wh i ch. . , man ua y p ,'

.'. '. 6 - ' :1 j*o p' l'e' ' t e'nd'- ''.f oö do th ems e l ve s o r j us t no t have d on e i f i t ' s ,' ,

' hem too much to do. so, tf the Btll...if 1. . ,.r,going to cost t

' j.7*. this'Amendment has any practical consequences, in my I

.opinion, they could only be bad: so I don't think...this il

ich'' may''' !m ay h àv e t h e t en d e n cy t o ma k e a b a d B i 1 l w o r s e wh!1

appeàl to some people, but I wonder whether or not that's i

the appropriate route to take.'''

jspeaker Redmond: ''Representative Catania.'' i

lCatania: 'Qn fact vhat this Amendment would do would be )

Iexactly the opposite of what Representative Leinenweber i1

jappears to be worried about. It would give exemptions in ;l

Illinois 1aw for casual babysvtting aad services or com- 'I' j

panionship for aged or infirmed persons. It would, also, il!

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exempt people who are employed as live-in household Il

workers, and it very clearly says that it applies only to !1

. (

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people in a household service, and household service is '$Edefined in other parts of the statutes to very clearly(

lude babysitting: and I move for the adoption of iexc IIAm e n d Ti e n t # 4 . ' ' T

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', , . !Speaker Redmond: The question s on the Lady s motion for thei:

adopt...Representative Conti.'s 1

Conti : ''Yes , Mr . S peaker and Lad ies and Gentlemen o f the Ho us e

Ia11 I've been hearing is about babysitting: but I9d like j

jto ask a question. This is not only referring to baby-i!'

sitting, this is youngsters that want to work after scboollj '

, 4 iin Long John Silver s or McDonald s or any other place, 'i

1: 1too. Is that correct? I

'

j. catania: ''No, weere only talking about household service, i

liRepresentative Conti.'' 1

' !Conti: HHousehold services.îî

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11 j 11 :Catania: That s right. !

' ' . '- ' Co nt t : ' ''How' abbu t ''l'avn . . . tlx e h i gh s chool kfds tha t like 'to cut'i

,, ilawns during the week? .

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I' Icatania: ''In the definitions of bousehold service, which

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a/pearr in'other.sections of thu'statute', those people'are II:!. iiL' (E$ 411 ' ' ? ' t 7: ' '' . (- :. .ex C .u . . , .- . .. !. L qb . -. t

conti: ''They would-bi intludedr' !

''They3re.excluded, because those are the people who 1Catania:I

defined in the same way that they're defined in the !areI1S

ocial Security statute, and they're excluded.'l Il

speaker Redmond: ''The question's on the Lady's motion for the (1l

adoption of Amendment 4. Those in favor vote 'ayel. 'I1Opposed vote 'no'. Have a11 voted who wish? Representa- :'l

tive Catania.'' i1lcatania: ''Thank you, Mr. speaker. As I attempted to point outl1iin presenting this Amendment and in answering questions, TI

this simply takes from the federal 1aw the same language 1l

which applies to household workers receiving the minimum

wage and puts it into our Illinois State law: so that the

household workers, who are always the people who get left

o ut when b ig l4bo r and b ig bus ine s s s i t down to nego t iat e ,

will f inally have some pro tect ion af f orded by our Illino is

law . Why should the ho us eho l d workers h ave t o go to the

. Federal Government to be pro tec ted ? Th is s imply takes

that 1aw and adds a couple o f exclus ions about casual

b ab y s i t t e r s , c o mp a n i o ns h i p t o tlz e a g e d an d t h e in f i rm e d ,k

and live.- in workers , so tha t - it is aerezres tric t ive t han

' f ederal law , and puts it into our Illinois S tate 1aw , and

I would ask f or your suppor t . 1'

: S p eaker Redmon d : ''Repres enta t ive Ewell . '#

Evell : l'Mr . Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen , a t this time

y o u ' r e c o n c e r ne d ab o u t th e p e o p 1 e a t t h e b o t t o m o f th e

ladder , and we , 'as Democrats , have t rad itionally concerned l

lourselves with the problem of the people who are at the1lb

ottom, the poor and the unfortunate. The rich and the '

powerful can take care of themselves. They don't have

'tbe problem'that 'the peopl'e who do the hardest and the

menial of work do. Now, babysitting is not, persayy a

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hard or difficult situationy but the thing that troubles

me i s ovr 4 .> c k p f qp qqe yp . f o r . t il pyue. p e o p le xho a r e . a t th e I

bottom of tbe laddel. ,It seems that.thope of us who have' ' : .: . wr 2 . J ' . t ' . . ' . . I

managed to climb # fey jtyjy on the ladder say, 'Let us be' . ; .j :. '., ' : ; . :. j . - . : y .' .. . 1rotected at a11 cost apd lepye out.those at the bottom.f !P

, . !- ! . . - 'j' Ladies and Centlemen, this is the thing that vill hurt the!I

Democratic Party more than anytbing else. You ask us. j'

j' 'Why are the Poor not concerned about 0ur party?' Becausel

1lthe'party is not concerned about the poor, about the tl

people who are unable to protect themselves. They have noI!1spokesman, no voice, and: as a results we ignore them. 11

I think we ought 8o cieèk with our o<n consciences,'becausl. !'

jyoulre simply talking about a minimum wage, trying to get1lin eonformance with the federat law, and it isykindeed,

' lidisgraceful to see us desert the principles that we have :i'

stood by for so long.'' i3i

S R d d: HHave a11 voted who wish? The Clerk will !Peaker e mon

take the record. 0n this question there's 55 'aye' and

i71 'no's and the Lady's motion fails. Any further Amend-

? , î iments ,. 1Iclerk Leone: ''No further Amendments.''!

''A Third Reading. 1980. Page 6. Rep- :Speaker Redmond: ny. . .l1resentative Grieshelmer asked'leave'to return it to the .!

Order of Second Reading. Does he have leave? Hearing no '. 'i

obléction, leave is granted. Are there any Amendments I. Ifrom the floor?'' l

. lClerk teoae: ''House Bill 1980. A Bill for an Act to amend thej

lFish Code. Second Reading of the Bi11.'' ' 1

1''Representative Griesheimer.'f 1Speaker Redmond:

. IGriesheimer: HThank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 1980 was up !

Ion Third Reading, and Representative Vinson raised an !

' ' jobjection to certain wording. I have prepared an Amend-

:ment. It's been filed. 'It's been distributed, T believe,

noo. and it clears up this wordinz. Ilye shown it to. '

Representative Vinson and Representative Getty. I would

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55.Iurge its adoption.''

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C1 e rk L eo ne : 'lAmendmen t # 2 y G'i' i ès h e irie r., amen d s' ' Ho us e B i.ï 1 t- - j y o . ,z .'. y . j;j ;., jl 9 8 0 o n p a g e l 0

, 1 i n e - 1 5 b # d e j. e t j; ii g .' .t E. di .'1 f . b' t 1 o p i rt g:, . p u j

j'i d rivate' O '''' -'''1 c an # . . ' . . . '

lSpeaker Redmond: 'Qs there any discussion? The question's on l

lthe Gentleman's motion for the adoption of Amendment 2. 'j

1Those in favor say 'aye'. 'Aye' opposed: 'no' The lI

l'ayes' have it. The notion carried. The Amendment's lII

adopted. Any fur'ther Amendments?'' 21

''Mr Speaker...Mr. Speaker, I donrt believe he iGriesheimer: . I

lread the right Amendment.'' !

Speaker Redmond: ''We1l ...'fl

lGriesheimer: ''Because I have the Amendment in my hand. . .''

l!

Speaker Redmond: HDld you read the Amendmenty Mr. Clerk?'' 1ilGriesheimer: %...and tt doesn't read the way the Clerk just

read it.''

Speaker Redmond: îîRead Amendment 2.'f

Clerk Leone: 'lAmendment f/z.amends House Bill 1980 on page 10,

line 15 by deleting the following, 'public and privatef.'' t1X

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Griesheimer: MThatls not the correct Ameadmentzl

I Speaker Redmond: HIs there any other Amendment?ll

Clerk Leone: ''Amendment #3.'1

Speaker Redmoùd: HRead the Amendment.''

I Clerk Leone: HAmends House 3i11 1980 on page 10 by deletingI

' line 15 and iaserting in lieu tbereof the following,

'empowered pursuant to 1aw to enter allp 11

IGrieshetner: ''lhat is the correct Amendment.''I

speaker Redmond: ''Is tbat the correct Amendment now?fî

Griesheimer: HI vould move...''

Speaker Redmond: ''Who's the Sponsor of Amendment 22''

Clerk Leone: HGriesheimer.''lt'

Griesheimer: 'Q believe...l believe I,was your...Mr. Speaker..''l

j ?iS peaker Redmond : ''Okay . Do y'o'u fnove t o t ab'l'e . 'Am'ehdment 2'? 'î ' .

j ; IGriesheimer: HI move to table Amendment #2'Hhl: .

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56.lSpeaker Redmond: HThe question's on the Gentlemanls motion to

c x , . j . c 77 j' l i . f . ! # !; ;â - '.tab le Amendment 2 . Tho s e in* f àvb r. s ay' 'àye .!' .. J' lAye '.i.f- n ' .

O o s e d ' no ê . Th e ' ay e s ' h av e i t . Th e mo't i'onr c a i' rviwe''d .. '..lt. sP P > ?' ' .; . . L 1: ' ..Amen dme n t 2 i s t ab 1 e d . Any f ur t h e r Am' e n dm ehttrs'?z' 1' a J .i' t' :8.! 2.'.. . ' t ' '1' '''

.. . jClerk Leone: ''Amendment //3 Griesheimer, amen'ds' House 'Bil1 ', j

, , l1980 on page 10 and so forth. l

I11 ,, lSpeaker Redmond: Representative Griesheimer. j

1Griesheimer: ''Amendmeat ?/3 is the one I just explained that 1II

R tative Vinson had requested.'' 1epresen .

ISpeaker Redmond: ''The question's on the Gentlemanîs motion for)

Ithe adoption of Amendment 3. Those in favor say eaye'. j

I'Aye'. opposed, 'no'. The tayes' have it. The motion 1

lcarried. The Amendment fs adopted. Ahy further Amendmentl?o

fj'Clerk Leone: ''No further Amendments.'f l!

k R d ond: HThird Reading.'' :Spea er e m !!:

Griesheimer: HMr. Speaker, I believe this Bill was on Short

Debate before.f'

Speaker Redmond: ''It waa. Do'youlask leave to have...'f ':2?Griesheimer: ''I would ask leave to return tt to Short Debate.''

jj 'Speaker Redmond: Does the Gentleman have leave to have House 1l

Bill 1980 on Short Debate? Hearing no objectiony leave isl1

granted. 2075. Page 28. Do you have a Floor Amendment ')

oa 2 0 7 5 , Mr . . . . 7.:c Amendmen t 2. . Evi den t ly , . th e P a ge d o e s n 7 tl

f that. Representative Griesheimer.t' ihave any o tI

t'Mr Speaker, itîs not an Amendment. It's taken iGriesheimer: .

. ..being taken back to Second to take the Committee Amend-l' j

m e n t o f f . '' ISpeaker Redmond: ''Okay. Does he have leave to return 2075 to 1

1lthe Order of Second Reading? Hearing no objection, leave i

. ;

'

is granted. Now: Representative Griesheimer, for what l!' 1

purpose do you rtse?'' :1

Griesheimer: MMr. Speaker, at this ttme, I request or move

the Body to remove Committee Amendment //1...or fo tablet

Commi t t e e Ame ndmen t # 1 th a t was p l a c e-d o d ''th i s' -B i'l''1'. .. Tifi é ':

involves the creation o f a circuit in Lake Co unty , and

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we're readjusting this at the request in concurrence of- . . ..z . . . u . . . . . . I y v! .2. j. ''.. . ' . . . . tb d L e g is l a y: o rs in McH enry : Bo on e , and Wi nn éb a'go 'd 6 un t i'e sft- ! ' ''' k- '' . Sp eaker Redmond : '1Th e Gen t leman . . . Repr es ent at ive Ge t ty .'''' z ''':'''r2. hj;1.-.. . --

1 .' ' G e t t y : 'îH as t h e a dm i n i s t r a t i ve o f f i c e o f t 1z e I 11 i no i s C o u r t s . ... :.. lD -'.'' '. 'i

. l' . expressed any posifion on this?'' ' ..' ,1 .x1

heimer: ''They took no position in Committee on this Billy !Griesl

. iand the reason we are proceeding as we are on this Bill 1 --

j' is because of some conferences vith some rather important $

1l

people across the street in the small buildipg next to theljBar Association Buildingz' 1l

. lGetty: ''I see. I had understood that che Amendment, which youq11seek to remove, would have made it approximately equal in il

population. Now, you would go back to the original way 11

which would be a disproportionate population. That's 11preferable?'flI

Griesheimer: HThere is no question. That's exactly what this ',!Idoes, but it was brought about out of necessity.'' i!

speaker Redmond: ''The question's on the Gentleman's motion to 'l

ble Amendment //1. Those in favor say 'ayeî. 'Aye' ':ta .

opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it. The motion carried. .. !

Amendment //1 is tabled. Any further Amendments?'l '1

clerk Leone: ''No further Amendmentsm'' 1lSpeaker Redmond: 'îThird Reading. Page 6. 1830. Representa- 1

ltive Stearney. Stearney here? 0ut of the record. 1703. i

IRepresentative Leverenz. 1703. Page 6. Representative. t

liLeverenz asked leave to return 1703 to the order of Second

. it

Readfng. Does he have leave? Hearing no objection, leàvef!. !is granted. Any Floor Amendments, Mr. Clerk?'' 1

lIclerk Leone: ''Amendment 112, Leverenz. amends House Bill 1703 j1

on page l by deleting lines 1, 2, and 3, and so forth.'' i' j

speaker Redmond: 'lRepresentative Leverenz.'' 1

'' h k ou Mr. Speaker. I would move to table i'Leverenz: T an y ,' !

Amendment //1, which was put on lnvcommittee for a better, 17

' . ' ' ' '' ' a n d c le a r e r a n d mo r e d e f i n e d Amen dm en t th a t h as ' a 1'e s s 'e r -. '' ' ' 'A': ' ';

penalty in Amendment //2.911

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SpeakerqRedmond: 'Qs there any discussion? The question's on !I

. the Genifemaa 's motion for the adoption of Amendment 2.

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.. 'rlzo s e ia f avo r s ay ' aye ' . ' Aye ' . op po s e d , ' ao ' . The -i . , j'ayesf have it. The motion carried. The Amendment's ('

Iadopted. Any further Amendments? 0h, pardon me. What Iwas your motion there to table?H j

1Leverenz: ''Table Amendment 1. We did that.'' I

1Speaker Redmond: ''Tbe question's on the Gentleman's motion to 1i

table Ameadment 1. Representative Schlickman.l: i1lSchlickman: ''Would the Sponsor yield?fî ;l

Speaker Redmond: HHe wi11.'' lIISchlickman: ''Are you gbing to another Amendment after this? j1

And what will be the effect of the other Amendment? Secondi

,, !Amendment?1lLeverenz: ''The Amendment //2 would drop the penalty from a :1

felony to a misdemeanor.'' !1l

yf ' 'Schlickman: A11 right, but ve are still going to a liability :

Act rather than a regtstration Act.î'

Leverenz: ''Yes' Sir.''

Schlickman: ''Thank you. No questions.l'

Speaker Redmond: 'Qhe questionls on the Gentleman's motion to I1

table Amendment 1. Those in favor indiéate by saying 1i

'aye'. 'Aye'. opposed, 'no' The 'ayes' have it. Thè 1ilmotion carried and tabled. . .Amendment //1 is tabled. Any j

% jfurther Amendments?n l

tt

clerk Leone: î'Amendment //2 amends Bouse Bill 1703 on page 1 )l

tr iby deleting lines ls 2, 3,.and so forth. Leverenz. I

!!teverenz: HThank you, Mr. Speaker. I move for the adoption ofll

Amendment //2. It is still the Taxpayers' Liability Act. !ftThe Amendment does include taxpayers, and that they should!l

be treated the same. The primary thing the Amendment !i

does is lower the penalty for filing a fraudulent or '

false information on a tax.return from a felony to a 1

Class A misdemeanor, vhich is a lighter p'enalty, and 'I' '

would move for the adoption of Amendment //2.1' '

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Speaker Redmond: HAny discussion? The question's on the l'' '!- . J ' ' ' t G eù t l eman ' à kfo't io'ri !' o r t h e 'a d o p' t 'i'o n o f ' Ame n d m en t 2 .' ' Th o s e 1

'' .in f avo r s ay ' ay e ' . ' Ay e ' Oppo s ed ' no ' Th è ' ay es 'l

. ' j' have it. The motion carried. Amendment 2 is adopted. I1

,, 1. Any further Amendments?i Il' Clerk Leone: HNo further Amendments.'î !IISpeaker Redmond: ''Third Reading.'' I

' j''Mr . S peake r.? ff 1L e v e r en z :

i1

Speaker Redmond: ''Yes, Sir.'' Il

''As we brought that back from Third Readings Short 1teverenz::

Debatey I would ask leave of the House to return the Bill '

to Third Reading, Short Debate.''

speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Walsh objects.''

ù Leverenz: HThank you, Representative Torpedo.''lE S eaker Redmond : ''Page 10 . 4 53 . 453 . I b elieve W'e re turnedP

th is to S é cond Reading , di d we no t ? And ther e vas . . . Did

we . . . ? Wha t ' d w e d o t he r e ? Amendmen t d i d w e a do p t 1 ?

And 2 was . . . 1 was adop t ed in Commi t t ee . Amendment 2 .

Okay . F 1oo r Ameadment . Any Floo r Amendment s ? ''

Clerk Leone : ''Amendment Sharp amends Ho us e B i11 4 5 3 as! .!

,, iamended. House Amendment //1 and so forth. i' j

k Redmond: 'fRepresentative Sharp.'' iSpea erl

! sharp: ''Yes, Mr. Speaker, Membçrs of the House, these Amend- i!

ments, as I've indicated before, are agreed by the minorityI ' j

and the majoritk stde here. Amendment //2 provides ex- lI

ions in the Bil.1 that have been recommended in order 1clus1l

to alleviate any increased fees on the consumer in the

case of publicly owned sewage works and public utilities

and to avoid double taxation in the case...as in the case

of the nuclear eaergy and the mining operations. would

move for its adoptioa.''I

speaker Redmond: ''Any discussion? The question's on the:

# i for the adoption of Amendment 2. Those'.Gentleman s mot on

i'ih'favor say M'aye' 'A e' 0 osed 'no' The 'ayesî. Y ' PP ' ' '

have it. The motion carried, and Amendment is adopted.

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Any further Amendments?''r . .;. t ' .. .' c1e rk '>L eo rfe : .'' .'îAmen-dmen't- '//,3 ' S h a'rp , ' 'aafènd s 'Ho us e B i11 4 5 3 as ' ' ', >

' amended . by. Houà:e Amendment //1 an d s o f o r th . '' !

S k Redho nd : . ' ''Repr es enta't ive. Sharp . '' '. p e a e r . ..

'

1 .' 1sharp: ''Mr. Speaker., Mèmbers of the House, this Amendment is 1

. 1. f 1the same as the previous one in that tt s been worked Out I

i!

. by the minority and majority sideu It restricts any I!

hazardous waste landfill above an abandoned coal mine

hin two miles of an active fault in thevearth's crust lwit1i

and within five hundred feet of an existing private well ii

. Ior source of public water supply, and I would move for itslf

. 1adoptiongf' !. ! .

Ispeaker Redmond: ''Any discussion? The question's on the i. . 1

IGenelemanês motion for the adoption of Amendment '3. Thosel

Ir , 1 ' c d , . Th f . iin fnvor say aye . Aye . ppose , no . e ayes i

1have it. The motion carried. The Amendment's édopted. jIAny further Amendments?'' i

. '

iclerk Leone: ''Amendment //4, Sharp, amends House Bill 453 as

i. . ;

amended by House Amendment //1 and so forth.'' )Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Sharp.'' l' )sharp: ''Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, this Amendment is

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basically the same as House Bill 114, which required the '. !

public hearing fn the county before permit for such a )1

landfill can be issued, and I would pove for its adxptionmpi!

speaker Redmond: .''Mr. Clerk, will you read that again. Did J. !

3 as amended by Amendment 1? !it refer to House Btll :5i

Does it say anything about...?'l 'j .Sharp: ''Yeah, it says, fas amendedb.'' ' '1

. l11 ' l J. ' tSpeaker Redmond: okay. The question s on the Gent eman s !

. l1motion for the adoption of Amendyent 4. Those in favor lI

'aye'. fAye'. Opposed, 'no'. The layesf have it.say :1

The motion carried: and the Amendment's adopted. Any t. . . !

further Amendmdnts?î' !. )

clerk Leone: ''Amendmeht //5,' Sharp, amends House Bill 453 as '. '

amended by House Amendment //1 and so forth.u '

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t h e B i 11 , wh e r e' .'wètqiclimTtL.'..kt h e's li'ab'il i t y' f o r Ma in t enanc e a t

twen ty y ear s s b ut.z ve: vant t'ba'indi c at e th at . th e liab i li tyl

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jf o r p er s o aal in1 'ury ieài' no t .t i edt. .in' wi th th i s limi t a t i on , 1l

land I would move for its adoption.ff llIspeaker Redmond: ''Aay discussioa? The questioa's oa the ' z. :

motion for the adoption of Amendment Those in favor 'l!say 'aye'. 'Aye'. opposed, fno'. The 'ayes' have it. 1l

. IThe motion carried. Amendment 5 adopted. Any further !

!ff 1Amendments? l

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clerk teone: ''Amendment //6, Sharp, amends House Bill 453 as 1!I

amended by House Amendment //1 and so forth.'' 'I''Representative Sharp.'' 1Speaker Redàond:

1Sharp: ''Yes, this is just a cleanup Amendment. It deletes a !

lSection which was mistakenly entered a couple different ll

ltimes: and it deletes, 'solid's in...the word, 'solid's in

two lines. It's just cleanup and has no effect on the

content of the Bill, and I would move for its adoption.'î!

Speaker Redmond: ''Any discussion? The question's on the !' !

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;Gentteman's motion for the adoption of Amendneat 6. Those'I

'aye'. 'Aye'. Opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' iin favor say' g

h it The motion carried. The Amèndmenéss adopted. 'aVe .iI

Any further Amendments?'' i. 2lclerk Leone; ''No further Amendments.'' !1Speaker Redmond: HThird Reading. 1933. Page 26. Representa-li

tive Christensen pn the floor? 1933. Representative !- j ,

;Christensen requests 1933 be returned to the order of #I

d Reading. Does he have leave? Rearing no objectioniSeconlleave is granted. Any Amendments from the floor, Mr. !l

', tClerk? .

:' IClerk Leone: ''Amendment //1, Christensen, amends House Bill )

1933 on page 1, line 22 by deleting, court' and so !' !

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speaker Redmond: ''Representative Christensen.'î

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Chr is t ens en : ''Yes , Mr . Sp eaker and Memb ers o f th e House , thi s

Ame n dm en t c la r i f i e s' . t h e'. 1en g th.' o f ? . e mp 1g xmqnvt-'. .f o r-' th e/ .--. - .

p eo p 1 e h ir e d , an d I w o u ld a s k . f p ç: .,>y.. f ayalg..l'-ab.elv.ez. po t:i.o n k 7

S p eake r Redmond : ''Any d i s c u s s io n ? : : Tb q.s q u ps y.'i.p.m! :- 0,p t h e l

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lGentleman's motion for the adoptipq..oaf Amenipent,l. ThoselI

in favor say 'aye'. 'Aye' Opposed 'no' The Wayes' l

ihave it. The motion carried. Amendment's adopted. Any '

further Amendments?'' 1l

''No further Amendments.'' 1Clerk Leone:l

,, lSpeaker Redmond: Third Reading. 2308. 2240, pardon me. à

IRepresentative Dawson. 2240. Representative Dawson I

tlrequests leave to have it réturned to the Order of Second I'

jReading. Does he have leave: Hearing no objection, leave:

1. Iis granted

. Is there any Amendw..any further Amendments, liMr

. Clerk?'l ,1

clerk Leone: ''Anendment //2, Dawson, amends House Bill 2240 as '!$

amended in the first paragraph of Section 3 and soffo/th.''k;Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Dawson.

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Dawson: ''Mr. Speaker, Ladies 'and Gentlemen of the House,

Amendment //2 puts on a limit of fifteen percent on any 11

cost over and above...if the cost goes over fifteen percent,i

then the Department has a right to go outside of the... kI

outside the purchase of the products.'l

Speaker Redmond: HIs there any dfscussion? The question's on

the Gentlemanîs motion for the adoption of Amendment

Those in favor say 'aye'. 'Aye'. Opposed, êno'. The' 'ayes' have it'. The motion carried. Amendmeat 2 is

adopted. Any further àmendmentsr'

Clerk Leone: HAmendment //3, Simms, amends kouse Bill 2240 as'

d d in the first paragraph of Section 3 and soamen e

Speaker Redmond: f'Representative Simms.''

Simms: ''Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House,L

Amendment //3 provides that the provisions of this Sections

are not applièable to a.purchase or (:cntract involving an

expenditure of less than five hundred dotlars. This gives

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the flexibility to an office or to another agency that. . . * !

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U n i t e d S t a t e s . I w' o u ld mo v e f ,o r i t s à. d o p t i o n' '''; 41 - '7 * :7 % C4:.t'' ': - 7. . ' ..

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!1that, Mr. Speaker.'' j1ISpeaker Redmond: ''Okay. The question's on the Gentleman's 'll .motion for the adoption of Amehdment 3. ihose in favor $l .say 'aye'. 'Ayef. Opposed 'no' The 'ayes' hive it. J .1

. jThe motion carried, and the Amendment's adopted. Any !

lfurther Ameadments?'' I

,' ,, IClerk Leone: No further Amendments.

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io'Brien requests leave to return it to the Order of Second'

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Reading. Does he have leave? Hearing no objection, leave '' gfloor Mr. Clerk?'' 1is granted

. Any Amendments from the , i. q

clerk Leone: HAmendment //1, O'Brien, amends House' Bill 2308 ' '12

on page 1: line 2 by inserting immediately after: ltheî;I

,' 1the follgwfng. I

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speaker Redmond: ''Representative 0'Briea.'' I1

o'Brien: ''Yeah, Mr. Speaker and Members, this Amendment sets i!l

up a s eparat e f und called tbe Liquor Control Fund , so that ;' s'i

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the increased revenues that we generate from the passage ê))1

Of the Bi11 Will go into a fund that eventually will be IIjused to scrutinize. and self-police, and clean up thel

industry. I aSk...mOVe for.the adoption Of the Amendmentz'1i

speaker Redmond: ''Any diskussion? The question's on the ii

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Gentleman's motion for the adoption of Amendment 1. Those!lI

' ' 'Ayef. Opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' 1in favor say aye . . !

lhave it. The motion carried. Amendment's adopted. Any '

. ', . )further Amendmentsî 'i

' ,' 11 ' ' ''Clerk Leone: No further Amendments. i

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Conti: ''Mr. Spqaker, I ask leave to bring this back for the

' r' ' u r p o s e o f am e n d i n g . . . '' ' ' ' . . . ... ) . . 'c,è5 '. . 1. t'', zAa-shxb . J=' . a.p- z't '.':.: - . . . . . 1) ; 1 . pr . .l

' S peaker Redmo nd : ''Do es the Gen t leman h ave l eave t o r et urn .. .,.y.1$....-1, ,..;.-- . .. . . . .

. t .. . .2575 to the order of Second Reading? Hearing no oblecçioq . . .. !. . (

'k I ,leave i s gr ant e d . Any Amendmen t s f rom th e f lo o r ? . . . e ..: . ..v,

iclerk Leone: ''Amendment //2, Totten, amends House Bill 2575' on 1!

page 1, line 8 by deleting, 'appropriate', and inserting li'jin lieu of there the following.'î. IlSpeaker Redmond: DRepresentative Totten.''

Totten: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to withdraw Amendment.' !!//2

. We have Amendment //3, right? I though we adopted 2. !' tAnvways we adopted it by a voice vote. I think. I vant f

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speaker Redmond: ''Did we adopt 27 Representative Conti.'' l '! .

!Conti: ''I don't believe we adopted it, Don. There was a l

technicality in the vording of the language, and it 'yl

would:'ve made the appropriation default if we did. I#m 22

f 11 Csure we didn t adopt it, so go ahead with your... .' ù

''okay. 1'11 withdraw 2, then.'' ' lTotten: #

Speaker'Redmond: HRepresentative Totten withdraws Amendment 2.;

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clerk Leone: HAmendmeat 3, Totten, amends House Bill 2575 on j

page 1s line 8 and so forth.'' !Ijspeaker Redmond: ''Representative Totten.'' Il

Totten: î'okay. Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentle- 6i

men of the House. This Amendment appropriates the seven )' j;

hundred and fifty thousand dollars the Commissioner of jl. j

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Banks and lrusts Companies to be depositéd in the newly I!

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recreated Bank and Trust Company Fund to provide for the I!fund and the start up cost for the fund. It is agreed to j

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1by the Commissioner, the SPOnSOrS, and Qhe banking indus- 2

try, and I would move its adoption.'' 1

'Q s there any discussion? The question's on 1Speaker Redmond:1

.. the Gen tleman # s mo t ion f o r th e ado p t ion o f Amendment . 3 .. .. %. . ''.. ' - .'<

Those in favor say 'ayet. 'Aye'. opposed, 'no'. The

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. 'ayes' have it. The motion carried; Amendient's adopted.

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. .'.. , , C le rk L eon e : ''No f ur th e r Amen dmen t s . '' .'

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Totten: got...''

Speaker Redmond: HRepresentatfve Totten.'' l1

Totten: ''I just want my money.'' i .1

Speaker Redmond: 1'2223. Represeatative Taylor. Representa- f' J

ltive Taylor asked leave to have 2223 returned to the Order1)of Second Readfng. Does he have leave? Hearing no .!

ion, leave is granted. Any Amendments from the lobject I1

f lo o r ? '' 1II

Clerk Leone: ''Amendment //1, Taylor, amends House Bill 2223 on j

pagè 2, line 4 by deleting the word...and so forthz' lI. ,, 1Speaker Redmond: f'Representative Taylor. i

t', /g1 is an Amend- !Taylor: Thank you, ;r. speaker. Amendment l

Iment that I agreed and the Committee that would accept ti

imeans that any person that is on public aid and receiving :

service from a hospital that has not...that they will be

reimbursed by the Department of Public Aid.''

Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Taylor moves the adoption of

Amendment Those in favor say 'aye'. 'Aye#. Opposed,

'no '. The eayes' bave it. The motion carried. Amend-

ment 1 is adopted. Any further Amendments?''

Clerk Leone: 'fNo further Amendments.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Third Reading. 1299. Representative

Mcpike. Qkay. Does the Gentleman have leave to return

1299 to tbe Order of Second Reading? Itîs been objected.

R ive Abramson objects. Is the Parliamentarianepresentat

here? Representative Mcpike, do you move that House Bill

1299 be returned to the Order of Second Reading? 0n this

question it takes 89 votes. 0n this question, those in. li

favor vote 'aye'. Opposed vote 'no'. Have a11 voted who 'il

wisb? It's on the motion to return it'to the Order of -!.i

Second Reading. Have a11 voted who vish? The Clerk wfll

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take the record. On this question there's 107 îaye' and l. c . . :... - :. j... j.v ...-1 5 . / .). a o. # R e p r'èv. e a t al t i'v è Ab r a Ii s'b' n ,' y o u s e e k . 'r e c 0 g n i t i 0 n ?

: : ' V C 1* '' R e P r e S e n t'Yt i V e V i n s 0 n .' 'î

îha'' Vinson': .'''What Order of Business are we on, Mr. Speaker?'' !(

dspeake'r' RedMond: HCalling- .we're on the Order of Third Readv ji

ing and returning Bills at the request of Sponsors to the 1. 4

jOrder of Second Reading for the purpose of either tabling ;l

dopting Amendments.'' lor aI

''I 't that gotng to make it pretty hard to get to IVinson: sn. l

1the Bills at the end of the list on the Order of Third '

Reading.''

Speaker Redmond: '1We11, it may. If...quite frankly: if the

Members would have their Bills in proper order when they

come out of Committee, this would be very unnecessary,

and its very frustrating, but it's been done ever since

I've been here.''

Vinson: ''For'the reasons the Speaker's articulated. I urge a

'no' vote on this.'l

speaker'Redmond: ''0n this question, l07 'aye'. and 15 'nof

and the mo tion carries to b e returned to the Order o f

Second Readiag . Any Amendments f rom the f loor? ''

clerk Zeone : ''Amendment //4 , Davis . amends Ho us e B il 1 12 9 9 on

page 1 , line 12 and 13 and so f orth . ''k.

S peaker Redmond : ''Who # s th e S pons o r o f th e Amendment ? Rep-

res entat ive Davis . Repres entative . . . ''

Davis': ''We11 th ank yo'u , ..'Mr . S p'eaker . ''

Speaker Redmond: nRepresentative Abramson, for what purpose

do you ri'se?'fi$ Abramson: lïHas the Amendment been printed and distributed?''

Speaker Redmond: HYes, it has.''

Abrapson: '!We haven't got it yet.''

speaker Redmond: ''Representative Davis.''

Davis: HThank you. Mr. Speaker. I do apologize that this

couldnît havé' been worked out in Commfttee. This is ohe

of those 3i11s tha't winds its vay through the Legislative

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Session, and a lotlof comment: andoa 1ot of lobbys#ctivity;I

.:. . '... .. k . àwd ..x.. .1IJ t . o.f ,-m'a'i'1' vb.a 8 k atzd'a''f (') rt h'',

'Jh'd a'' 1'o t' ' 6'f ' th i n gs t h a t

lzahpp en .ltct l i't .L. 4 . And': ' tins .r e spons e c o ,tha t , I think ' w'e h ave:

a. Me ry .. 'joo d'è' 'Ame ndm'êtft i n Amen dmen t //4 th a t u1t ima t e1y w'i 11

remove za lot bf thesobjèctions that have been raised in

private and in public, in Committee, on the floor, and to I'

jeach of usaas Legislators, and my own objections were II

1added to that list. The Sponsor is agreed to this Amend- 1

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ment ia that the organizations that seek to pass this

Bill and the group of us that do seek to pass it have 1l!agreed to removing. . .what the Amendment does is to remove j

. i' 1the offénsive de novo Section or the ne< chartering Section'm this Bill. It, also, at the same time takes the 1fro

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'facility provision that was increased to three ljoutside!

additional outside facilities and reduces that to one ëf

outside facilities. I think this Bill, in its stripped

down version vith the adoption of this Amendment, will

merit the considerarion and support of everyone, and 1,

certainly, at this point would urge you to adopt Amendment

//4. I think it's an excellent Amendment. It makes a

good Bill out of one that was highly questionable to some

people, and; at this point, I would urge you to do it and' itry to ansWer any questio/s that y0u havez' i

Id f' f h discussion? Representative Huffi''Speaker Redmon : Any urt er

!I'R ff: îfThank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield for a 1ul

t :I. on ? '' lq u e sl

11 f1 1Speaker Redmond: He will. IHuff: HAII right. Representative Davis, as I understand the i

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way you explaining, articulating this Bill, tbis will Il

limit the holding eompanies to one service bank or 1Ielectrical service unit. Is that it?'' !'

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Huff: HBasically.''

'Davis: 'L ..the facility reduction is currently in the lav.

Every bank, main bank facility, can have two off-site

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facilities which can cash checks and get deposits and1

thi nks o f t h .'4 t:-.na..t upç.. ry..fT. hte :).3i .1 1.. xp roxv i d e'd , b r i g inally , . . I. l

t h a t t h r e e a d d i t i o n a 1 f @ g i 1 i t i e s llik e .t h a t w o u 1 d b e i n - 'j1

c1u de d in t o ph e r.B i11 ., .-We .'!r;ç c now r ed uc $ng th at b a ck t o 1loae additional facility. ) The de novo charter or Section,

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. . . . j' éd with.lRepresentative Huff may be the one you re concern (9

. tItls the Section that allows five new chartered banks to J

Ibe chartered by a main bank in its own region or a con- !

li guous region . Thïs 'Amen dmen t delet es that provis ion . 1t

;!i!It is no longer in the Bi11, if this Amendment is adopted..i

''Wel1 I speak t/ the Aaendment. Ladieg and Gentleman, )Huff: ,. #

Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House. this !l

. . .vhat thfs Amendnent does fs recognize one of the fkaws ?1. I

and one of the fears that many of us had.:iîbithotegards tol!l

thfs measure is is that ft would lead to banking 'tl .

. Imonopolism. If it wasnît for that, they vouldn't be )

1..bringing this Bill back for a Second Reading to recognize l

:that fear that many of us haze expressed. I don't thinkk

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that the adoption of this Bill is going to make it any .t

better, because once this is adopted, they can always 1Ifcome back next Session and remove this. I vote...l want

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everyone to oppose this Amendment and leave the Bill as it!' !

is, which is absolute...an abomination. I vote 'no' on '' !

f , !this. à!

'Speaker Redmond: 'lRepresentative Stuffle.'' lI

Stuffle: ''Yes, Mr. Speaker and Members, Representative Huff isj. I

' absolutely right. A11 this Amendment is is an attempt to l. i

make a bad Bill a little less bad. It's stfll a very bad I' ' f )

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i :Bill. We should be considering the question on its'merit@'.

iThe Bill will still be a holding company Bi11. The Amendx

. )t .ment is not that good. The only way the Amendment .could

' f this Bill, and 1 1be good if we took everything out o,, 1would urge a 'no' vote as did Representative Huff. 'i

. Speaker Redmoqd: f'Representative.rTuerkz! '. . t;

Tuerk: ''Would the Sponsor.yield to a question:'' Ct

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7 ..) '= )6 9 .

Speaker Redmond : 'îlle wi11. 'f

'r u e r k y '' R e p r e s e n t a t isce .z D av i s qj avth a .t.v ... '...'a s w-T *. r @ q i'a 1 1 .',.y o u rseé.je n i n g .1 .

r emar ks , wha t yo u wer e s ay ing ois s.a p p qr en t ly t t h qr è .,:h as b e en

s o me me e t i n g in t h e m i n d s ,..- s om e -' c o m p r o m i s e :.w i t h t h i s

Ameadment. Itls going tonremovez.aplot.of:the objections

raised by a 1ot of the smaller community banks. Is thatl

? '' 1correctiI

Davis: HNo, that is not correct. am nutzso certainuthat any 1' jof the objections will be removed by the fndependent

community bankers or the IBA. Those two groups have a iJj

he entire concepty and don't think anythingl;reaction to t

1that any Amendment would do, short of killing the Bi11, !

1would satisfy them. This satisfies the objections that 1i

. )many of. us, some of us who were even Cosponsors of t:e 1IBill, ultimately had with the de novo Section, and it's :!

being removed to make the Bill, put the Bill in a stripped-

down version, so that the merits of holding company lt

acquisition and the widening of the possibility of thbse 7t

unit banks that are objecting to have a more saleable' ). ;

market for their bank and the widening of the opportunity i;

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for them to use the provisions of the holding coppanies ii

Section to expand. Wefre trying to help them, but their 1. l

!objections are there, and they may be valid, but that's (

1their pofnt, and I think that ought Eo be discussed, i

1IRepresentative Tuerk, on the Bill itself. This Amendment !ll ,,is stripping the Bill to the bare holding company provisiop.I

Tuerk: ''Thank you.'' i!

,f ,, ISpeaker Rednond: Representative Friedrich. !I

HJack with this Amendment, a bank can have how !Friedrich: & $'

jmany s epara te f ac i1i t ies ? Thre e ? If uzl:hey c'an 'zhave tvo niik? 'î1

Davis: HAre you talking about...? They would be allowed one '

additional with this Amendment...u

Friedrich: HAII right. They can have two now, so they could

h a v e t h r e e . R i gh t..?.'-!;. :. . .. , ,, .,

D a v i s : '' Y e s S i r . ' '

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o n e b ank a n d h a d t h e ch i p s t o b uy .f i v e po r e ,ol . .c q t! ld , ,d o .; . . - e t x w K . .. . o . , .. +

i t s c o u 1 dn # t I un d e r a h o ld in g .c o mp a ny ?. . .,S 0-.: 't h.i...:: 'j.56gu-è.d. . .. 2 . .;.j1n o t p r e c 1 u d e s o m e b i g Cli i c a g o c a r t e l f r o m .b uy in gj b o.n e a.b apk I. . f .. j1

in each of the five districts and moving in and buying tenllI

more banks in that same districXt, would it?ll l. 1

IDavis: ''We11, it depends on what Chicago cartel youRre talkingl

ibout :' There are...'' 1a

. IF f edr ich : ''I f m talkin g ab out th e b ig money b oys . '' 1r .

l''W 11 there are restrictions in anti-trust laws that lDavis: e ,

l're talking abouc for lprevent the kind of thing that you :

most purposes. But: yes, you would allow contiguous '. i

region or main baaking region banks to acquire banks in jt

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h' Absolutely.'' lot er areas.1

F iedrich: HSo if I could put the money together: I could 'r ,

buy a bank in Granite Ctty and branch over in Patoka, and:

Iuka, and Salem, and Centralia, and anyplace else I wanted!

11 1to. !

Davis: ''We1l you used the word, branching: Representative .. ' j1

Friedrich, and it ts not branchingzî î. l

. dFriedrich: ''Wel1, al1 right. I know the difference between a 1

1bank and a holding company, but I could own banks in each I

L lI I iof those other towns

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1Davis : ''Yes S ir . ''' II

Friedrich: ''Thank you.'' Ij

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' lSpeaker Redmond: Representative Vinson. j

IVtnson: ''Wi11 the Sponsor yield for a question?'' !

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Vinson: ''Would you describe this Amendment as an effort to geti

,' fjust one nostril of the nose under the tent?1

Davis: ''We11 no, I don't see it that way, yJu see. And I

have unit banks that gain to take a styip of htde off of

me f o r b e in g invo 1ve d , and I s a i d ...t o. !th em , , ' L oxqk., . ..1. -dqn ' t. .' .

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. consider this a first step towards branching. You might.

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I don't consider it as such.' I reviewed this proposal,

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b e f o re anyb o dy eon t ac t ed me . Nob o dy lobb ied 'me . '' I t'' ''4 â's'' .-

= , :. z:.. . ; N:. .j .k;.r.an independent decision to support the Bi11', and.sinci ' ') '

I .' 11 idea tha t tlt e d e ' novo . s ect i'ôh wâ's?.#î''::' '.ts en I ve r e gr e t t e (1 t e

iin there: and noy we will finally have an agreement to 4

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ttake it out, which was my primary objection to t:e Bill. f

lI view this as a very progressive step for unit banking, 1

ld I can't ïmpress upon you that enough, and I wi11 @an

Iimpress upon you on the merits of the Bill. Right now 1

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we're talking about the Amendment that takes out a highly j' j

offensive Section of the Bi11.'' 11l

Vinson: ''Mr. Speaker, on the Amendment, I vould just say that i1!

if unft banking has frfends like this, it doesn't need ji1, :

any enemiek. :!

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iSpeaker Redmond: Representative Abrimson.

Abramson: '1Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of Che House,

the concern I ûave vith thfs Amendmeht is that it will

effeccively linitv..eliminate participation by large

Chicago banks and the holding company benefits, thereby Ii)

putting them fn a competitive disadvantage. I can't. (

believe that the prime movers of holding company would !

allow a Bill to be passed allowing them to be at a competi=l1

tive disadvantage. I think when this Bfll comes back iI

from a Conference Committee, de aovo's going to be back l1

' ing to'be late at night on June 30th/in there, and it s go l1

aad this thing is going to get by. I urge a 'no' votez' ll

speaker Redmond: ''Representative Terzich.'' jl

Terzich: 'îYes, Mr. Speaker, I move the previous question.'' kl

'' i îshall tbe main 'iuestion 'Speaker Redmond: The question s, !l2' Those in favor say 'aye'. 'Aye'. dpposed, 'nol'..be put

The ' ayes ' have it . 'Ihe motion carried . Répres entat ive

Davis to c1o se . ''

Dav is : ''We 11 th ank yo u , Mr . S p e aker , L a'd i'e s a'nd ''Ge'n't l'èmèn' .

I certainly don't want to take up a great deal more time' ' t

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closing. I think the merits of tbe stripped-down version:

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' Amendment. It does strip out some of the offensive IJ j

l. provisions to some of us...of the Bill, and I would prge ji

your favorable Ro11 Call vote.'' 1. I-

1t 1 !Speaker Redmond: The question is on the Gentleman s motion1. Ifor the adoption of Amendment 4. Those in favor vote I!

'aye'. opposed vote 'no'. Representative Mcpike to Ij, ' jexplain his vote. !

IMcpike: ''We11, thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen l'

.I6f the House. What weRre trying to do is get this Bill i

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. into a position where it can be debated on its merits on !l!

. Tqird Reading. If youCre agatnst the Bill on Third Read- .!i

ing, well, then vote it down. What we#re simply trying to' l 1. , ' J

do ts meet some of the objections, put.a Bill in the final'l

. form, so that we can debate it. We're not debating the .. i

Bill today. We haven't gone into the merits of the Bill .'

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or the demerits of it. As a matter of fact. one of the- I

speakers that got up to speak against this Amendment 'i:

offered the identical Amendment himself and withdrew it '

two nights ago. It <as his Amendment. It was his Amend- '!' :4 1

ment that he got up and spoke against. We re trying to t' j

' meet objections. We're trying to present a Bill that i;

. lmight be acceptable to a malority of people on this floorj

1I think you should give us the opportunity to debate it on1i

l'ding to go into the enttre Btll, and the form iThtrd Rea ,

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' that we want to discuss it in.'' tl

speaker Redmond: ''Have all voted who vish? RepresentativeI '

P o l k . ' ' ' ' ë!

Polk: ''Mr. Speaker. Iîve alvays believed in the philosophyl !1

Qhat 8 SPOnSOr had the ri%ht tO Put the Bill in Whatever1

' - - order he would like it in. If you don't like' the Bill ' *-- '''

then after theyfve amended it, then you vote against it.

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I ' ve received probably as much mail on this as I have on

.,p .:. ; - p'f.' 'J, '&:';a h'mt 'E q uql .Fi gh t s . Ame ndmea t' ,. wh idh me an s ' .1 ' v e r e c e ig'e d t oo ' .

.n ..., mpçh m@il. People seem to be copfused, and this seems to l1

. .. .s...., , - .: .' ,.&, : . ': '..sb q. .op e ar ea t h at ha s r e ally . . . h as eve ryb o dy t n a q uan d ary . !L . 1. ' -' . ' 1L: ul'.think b0th the small banks and the big banks are not... l

' lither oae, as I know, are happy with this de novo Ine

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Section, so I do believe it should zo on the Bill at this !. ''-' !

ltihe. Then when it gets to Third Reading, we can make a 1i

fiaal determination.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Neff, 'ARqpresentative DaùielslI

please sit down. .!t1

Neff: HThank you, Mr. Speaker. Just so there's no confusion 1Ii

on this Amendment: the Illinois Bankers, tbe independent 1!' jbankers are strongly opposed to this Amendment.'' i

ISpeaker Redmond: ''Representative Bullock.'' !

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Bullock: Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, 61

I rise in support of this Amendment. I share with Rep-!

resentative Mcpike the concera that several of the persons'' 9who spoke ia oppositfon to this Amendment were persons

lvho served. with us on the Financial Institutions Committee'

land offered similar Amendments. I think this Amevdment 1

!makes the Bill palatable to the various financial interests

Iof our state. . Illinoks, as we a11 know, shares the j

lIdubious distinction with West Virginia being the only !

' jstate in the Union not to move away from an archaic 1

unit banking system. This Amendment Will, in effect, !!!alleviate some of the objections of personages who came E$l

before the Comnittee who felt that the Bill was not in 1' j

perfect form. I tbink if you cast an 'aye' vote on this C! .t

Bill, you'll see that on Third Reading the true meriLsvof '!!

the Bill ean be discussed, and I think...and I share with j. '

Representative Mcpike the Sponsor does reserve t:e right

to request Amendtents to the Bill that he feels will

.. furtherlits causey.and I request an 'aye' vote.'l

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative McGrew.''

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McGr ew : ''Thaak yo u , Mr . Sp eaker . I was j us t van t ing to po int

. . : ' ' : '' ..: ''o'u?.t. 'th'a t ' W'h'eqn L7 t h è.'cG eti t Fém'an r s t ar t e d ' '. th er e wa s 'ab o u t 15

.vo t e s , d i f f er en't . I .;.th ink .we # ve go t mo re imp o r t an t th ings

t o do Jthan. ar g.ue' c,wh en . th e r e ' s th a t much s p r ea d . ''. .. :

i d: L''Representative Grieéheimer.''speaker Red on

Griesheimer: ''Well, I guess we each have our important issues.j

lThis is a very important issuess and I#m one of the Co-sponsors of this Bi11. I lust want the people to know

I -'' 1lthat are present here today discussing thiss that this i

Iissue of the de novo banks and the establishment of new :

1banks was discussed by myself with our bankers when they !

1were down here, the majority of which are rather strong

1supporters of the Bill itself. And, tbey felt that this i

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might be a valuable addition to the Bill. It .grant's more 1:

protection to banks in adjoining regions, and I can see

no reason to oppose this. This Bill has been grown out of

compromise, aad if vedre truly going to compromise the

issues, try to protect unit banks, and also do something

for the larger banks .that are trying to expand, I think

hts is a means o f do ing it . I vo te ' aye # on it . '' lt ,

lSpeaker Redmond: ''Have a11 voted who wish? The Clerk will take'

the record. on this question, 79 'aye' and 67 'no'. The!i

motion prevails, and the Amendment.Als adopted. Any furtherlI

11 !Amendments? !I

clerk Leone: ''No further Amendments.'' IIspeaker Redmond: ''Third Reading. 1443 on page l9. RepreseatarIr! !

tive VonBoeckman. I1

VonBoeckman: ''Wel1, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlenen of fi ,

'd like to bring back this Bill for an Amend- ithe House, I i

)ment. The Amendment's not mine, but I agreed to attacb- i

lv kment to my B i11 . Repres ent ative Mulcahey , I d like to hav

htm explain the Amendment to the Bi1l.'î

speaker Redmond: ''Does the Gentleman have le4ve to return it

.to the Order .of-seconda,Reading? Eearing no objection,

leave is granted. Is there any Amendments from the floor?''

G ENER AL A SSEM BLYST A.T E o F 1 LL i N o ! S

M Q kIsE D F R EP R E 5E N T AT l V E S

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c le rk L eo ne : '' Amendment 11 1 , Mu 1q ah ey , amend s Ho us e B i 11 1 4 4 3

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Speaker Redmond: l'Rypresepta:tivyyMulsyhey.l'. '. . u >. . .. . - .. . . L

Mulc ah ey : lf 'rh ank yp u s. t Mr,. a .S. 'p : yk 4.< , ..M. epb e rs o f . t h e H o u s e .

Ameadment #$ simply,.y#hes Ahe opprptton of a motorcycle on1. . . . . .) 3 . . . . . e . l. .motorcycle on one wheel a reckless driving offense. !

. !lIt's defined in Section 11-503 of tbe Act, and I would Il

move for the adoptton of the Amendment.'' 1l

. f 1Speaker Redmond: ''Any discussion? The question s on... II

Representative Skinner.'' l

ISkinner: ''I trust we're talking about on the road?'' !

1Mulcahey: ''Representative Skinner, exactly. Thatês what 11

Section 11-503 fndicates.'' 1ISkinner : ''Thank -you . '' 1t

d '' h tioa's on the Gentleman's motion toSpeaker RedAon : T e ques tI

adopt Amendmeat 1. Those fn favor say 'ayeî. 'Aye'. J1

opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have tt. The motion carried. i!

The Amendment's adopted. Any further Amendments?'îliclerk O'Brien: ''No further Amendments.'f I:

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j ' 1speaker Redmond: 'Third Reading. on page 8 appears.House Bill:' ' j

02 Re#resentative ZcYaster is recognizedz' i2 . i

!McMaster: ''Mr. Speaker. this is for Third Reading, not to be 'i

move d back t o S e'cond . '' i1

''Does the Gentleman ask leave to return it Ispeaker Redmond:I

to Second? Is that correct?'' II

McMas ter : ''No no . ''

s eaker Redmond : 1f okay . What . . . ? '' 1P . l!McMaster: ''I have two Bills that I would like to leave within II

the next half hour, Mr. Speaker. I hesitate to ask k. l

permission of the House to have two Bills called out of ll

o r d e r . '' ët

speaker Redmond: ''Okay. Which Bills are they?'î !. l

M Mas t er : '' 2 0 2 and 9 7 3 . They ' re on Th ir d Read in g , an d th ey ' re :c,,;not to be returned. lhev're to be voted on, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker Redmond: '1Wel1, I got..

G EN ERA L ASSEM BLYST A T K7 Q F I u u 1 N o I S

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5-18-79

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McMas t er :. '$ I f yo u would . . . ''

s p e aker Redmo nd : w'lll'ha t.l.s . -.wh .'4 t .:1,.'. !ri -c :lxli!'t g-ygog .ois . 2 Q 2. :L' ' ,..? J ' . - g, - . . .. . .. . : . J. - t . .. ,' J $ l .? '?2 '.J .

McMas t er : llYes , I am pr epared if. the g'Hoxus.e wrill .a ccep t . . . ''

Sp eaker Re dmond : '1Oh you 'want ..i ..'' '.' - <> ? ' . ' . ' '

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'' I f t h e 11 o us e. . w t 1. 1c. . . a c c e p !r : y h. t. s . o u't j o f o. r d e r , . . . '' 1McMas ter :

' Redmond: ''okay.'' lspeakerIi

McMaster: ''I'm willing to go ahead. If they do not...1f !il

Speaker Redmond: 'lokay.'' I1

'1 f order, well: then 1...'' liMcMaster: ...want to go out o

ISpeaker Redmond: ''Representative McMaster has an emergency :'

jis it? Does he have leave to proceed lback home. What

1McMaster iwith this in the passage stage? Representative

I1f lon 202. j

. !clerk OlBrien: ''House Bill 202. A Bill for an Act in relation!

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to township government and to repeal an Act therein named.r

Third Reading of the Bi11.''

Speaker Redmond: 'lRepresentative McMaster.'l

.McMaster: f'Thank youy' Mr. Speaker. Ladies and'Gentlemen ofI

the House, House Bill 202 is the result of about four

years of,,work of the Township Government Lawslcommissién

that has since then been disbanded. The only purpose ofl

it to.v.was to recodify township laws, bring them a11 into;!

one Section of the statute, so that any township official

might find his powers: and'duties, and rlesponsibilities

an easier fashion. Essentially: we are not making any

changes in current law. We are merely maintaining what

ia the 1aw now, but we are pulling it a11 into one place.

We worked extensively on this legislation. Since then

when we did introduce into counties and townships this

year, it vent to a Subcommittee, and the Subcommittee

worked diligently to clean it up to avoid any possibility

of dissatisfaction, and I would now ask that it be passed.l'!

speaker Redmond: 'lAny discussion? The question is, 'Shall:

' this Bill pass?' Those in favor yote 'aye' Oppoped vote.. , . . . . . . . . .. ?

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'no '. Have a1l voted vho wish? Have a11 voted who wish?

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1- The Clerk will take the record. 0n this questton there's

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j , . . : . . . .y, . . u . . l j w , .1 x .the Other One s on page 14. 973. Is that correct, xep- -'1i

resentative McMaster?'' 1l

McMaster: 'Q t's on page 3 of the priority of call Bills on !1Third Reading, Sir.'' E

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''Now, whatês the other Bill that you wanted 1:Speaker Redmond:1

called ? ''

M Mas ter : ''9 7 3 please . '' lc , .

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,1 r II'Speaker Redmond: Isn t that on page 14?

McMaster: HWe11, it might be of the Calendar. I#m looking

at your priority of ca11.''

Speaker Redmodd: ''No, no, no. I#m looking in the' Calendar on

page 14 in the Calendar. 973.'1

Clerk O'Brien: MHouse Bill 973. A Bill for an Act to amend

Sections of an Act to provide for the exercise of the

rigbt of eminent domain. Third Reading of the Bi11.1'

Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative McMaster.ff

McMaster: HThank yous Mr. Speaker. Nowy this might not be so

noncontroversial as the previous Bill vas, and I fully

realize that. 973 would permit so-called fquicktake'

by counttes and construction of a highway or a bridge 1

where there are federal funds involved, and thatfs

essentially what it is, and I'm quite sure there might be

more controversy in regard to this Bi1l.H

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Skinner.'' iI

' nMr S eaker, I rise in opposition to this Bill. ThelSkinner: . phorrors of 'quicktake' are quite well known around the t

istate. There are... It's bad epough that we allow the j

lDepartmept of Transportation to do it. I lust donft thinkl

we should expand it any farther. I think that property1

owners ought to have the right to go into court before a

governmental body is allowed to seize their land.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Anything further? The question is, 'Shall

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Speaker Redmond: Representative McMaster. =c?.''.l. ' . . jMcMaster: HI would like to close: Mr. Speaker. I appreciatea-rfqa.

what Representative Skinner said. Let me point out Eo l. I

yOu that in construction Of any road: any bridge, we have !!' j

a group of people who are strongly in support of it, and 'jl

we have that group of people whose ox is beink gored who j1

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4 . , !saysy Don t take our land; take someone else s land.iIIt's one of the problems of highway buildings and I recog-'

nize that problem, but this does give the county the

opportunity to proceed with construction where federal

funds only are involved. I mean federal funds plus the

local county funds: but it does allow tbem to go ahead

and proceed with the construction, oftentimes at a much

lower price than if we dillydally. around for one or two

individuals blocking the construction for a period of

four or five years, and this can happen, And: eventually.

the courts have the decision as to the value of the

property, and that's usually whatsthe pyoblem is ove/,

is how much the property is worth. I w6uld urge a êyes'

vote, Mr. Speaker.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Mugalian.''

Mugalian: 'Q ...my button was pushed a little late. I wanted

to ask a few questions of the Sponsor.''

speaker Redmond: ''I'm sure Representative McMaster will

ommodate you.''acc

Mugalian: ''Representative McMaster, I understand that this

Bill, am correct in understanding, that this Bill only

affects the taking for highway purposes?u

McMaster: ''Highway or bridge.''

Mugalian: ''nighway or bridge.''

M Mas ter : ''Yes . ''c

Mugalian : ''And un der ' quickt ake ' . . . f'

McMas t er : ''Wh er e f ederal f und s ar e invo 1ve d . 61

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1Mugalian: ''And under a 'qùicktakeî procedure the landowner is

w. ' - .t $ 'u ''. . . . ' . . ..' r ' . . fj . i ...' 1$ - . s t i 11 g i v en ' t h e r i g t t o c o n t e s t t h e q u e s t i o n o f p ub 1 c'r p o s e , i s 14 e n o t ? 'fp u

' 1McMaster: ''Absolutely.'' I

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'M a'lian: HSo that a11 à 'quicktake' procedure does it main-lu g > .. ,!ltains a1l the rights of the landowner, but it avoids the ii

unnecessary delay in using the property for road purposes il

involved in a jury trial and determining the amount of

compensation.'l

McMaster: ''That's right, Representative. In effect, the

same rights are there for the landowner, of the Juryn-

trial, andrkeverythipg else. The only difference is it

happens after the cdnstruction rather than prior to the

construction .''

Mugalian: ''And isn't îquicktake' likely to save money to the

jurisdiction involved and that the cost of'inflation can

be reduced and minimizedr'

McMaster: ''In many cases it would, Representative, because

you can prodeed with the construction immediately, and in

the case of no 'quicktake' you might be delayed for a

period of four or five years, and we know bow the cost

has escalated in that length of timev''

Mugalfan: ''Thank you. If I may speak to the Bill for lust a

moment, I think that some of thes'e questions and answers

may have clarified what we mean by îquicktake'. I'think

when we use that term, Ladies and Gentlemen and Mr.

Speaker, there's some kind of reflex reaction that there's:l

something about this that deprives a property owner of .

any bàsi? rights. It doesn#t. ID'S really a form of

good government, and I think that tbis is a good Bill, ;!

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and I urge your support.''

Speaker Redmond: OThe queètion is, 'Shall this Bill pass?'

Those in favor vote 'ayeo Opposed Vote 'noî. Save a11

Voted Wh0 Wish? Representative 'Mcclaihz'

Ycclainl HThank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I rise along

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with Mr. Skinner in opposing this Bill. I told Mr.

' '' ' k-# ' I ' ld t stand up aad oppose it but I never. .w .. ... , . c aster wou no .'D'tiought it would even come close to passing. 'Quicktake',. ( . ..'

. .. .. . .'.m'e',.ts something that we ought to use, not for con- l... ..,ua

' veniepcey but we oug'ht to use in an emergency situation ,11or in the best interests of the public good for some

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fmmediate thing. For road construction or bridge con- l!

struction tbere's no emergency. You have ao right of I. 1

putting a temporary restraint on it...on 'em and stopping lII

ion. You can challenge the public purpose, but !construct

Ias Mr. McMaster said, immediately the people can come j

1learing the land, and constructing the roadway. 1start c

. l. i

'Quicktake' is something that I think we ought to be very i,I

itant to give to governmental bodies Vithout really lhesl!

understanding that in defiditive nature it ought to only '

be used, I believe, for that some sort of emergency, not

for the governmental body's convenience, and I#d ask you1, !to hold back on the 89 votes. (

lSpeaker Redmond; ''Have a11 voted who wish? Representative J

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i/shetmer.'' icr1

Griesheimer: ''Thank youy Mr. Speaker. I came before this Body1

' i ktake' for the @about six years ago and requested qu c j!

North Shorefs Sanitary Districty because we vere facing i. ii

an emergency situation there, and it waé granted to the jIldistrict. I was very reluctant to stand in favor of tbis jI

type of Bill, because I felt that we might be facing a j!situation of unrestricted and unbridled taking of property .

by an agency to the detriment of a landowner. So, I èl

learned a 1ot about 'quicktake' vith my other Bi11. l$!found OuQ that all the judicial Protections are still withI1

idual, the protections of trial, the protections lthe indiv!

of a jury if need be: a protections of the judge, but to .' )the last speaker who says thereês no urgency: the bridges

' in 90Z of this state are falling apart. and the problem

is is that we're trying to get federal money to rebuild

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these bridges. but the money is allotted on an annual' . f tscaïl .bas fs.k'.ha'nd -.j.r ïl,è., parttcular towrfship ' ruhs trfto 'a

s'ttuafkon wher'e'khey dannt get the property so that theyI . .Lcan go aheadzvith the coastruction of the bridge, they

l'money. And,'this places us in the 1lose the federal

limponderable positionuthat while they're toolin: around in1'

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court vith the lawyers and the judges trying 'to,lget the 1ll

case over vith, the property is eventually obtained by l' !. , v z !thepy tbe money s gone, and if this isn t an emergency, !

!don't know what one is. I would particularly call this 1li

to Ahe attention of a Gentleman that would live in Quincyzl1

because there must be inaumerable bridges, as I found out !i1

last year Over therev tbat probably need repair just like 'l' J

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the ones in take County and in every other county in thisi

state. I think we really do have an emergency here. The

emergency is to 1ay hands on federal funds to protect our

driving public throughout the state, and I'd urge an 'éye'

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Speaker Redmodd: HHave a11 voted who wish? The Clerk wi1l

take...Representative Oblinger.u

Oblinger: HThank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House.

I wonder how you'd be feeling lf it were your land that

was going to be taken, and then you could go to court :J.:

after construction began. What good would my corn and

bean land after they'd dug it out, after they fell the

trees, after they'd done all' thisk You donlt know what

it is to take 'quicktake' if you haven't gone through it,

d I appeal to the people who don't have to experiencean

this to try and understand our feeling about it.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Ewing.''

I Ewing: ''Mr. Speaker, you can take the record. 1 just want to

explain my vote lf it goes over 89.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Have al1 voted who wish? Representative

Borchers. Borchersz''

Borchers: '#Fe11ow Members of the House, 1, for one, would

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resent very bicterly 'qutcktake' just because of federal

f unds . ire we 'go:in'g .to . 're talinê our i! i:glz t.' o f ' p rop er ty , o r I ',

' '

. ja r e we go i n g t.o.. 'g.iv.e: . it '.àkay'? .ZJ.An d . th a t î s wh a t yo u f r e

d o i n g . I in t e n d' t o . r.e sri s t $ t.h e'.:.' a d t i o n o f th i s s o r t . I t î s' I' 1

completely unAmerican'.aùdtundemocratic, and I thfnk you 1'

(should consider very carefully' anythiag that destroys our 1'

jright of our own property.'î 1

'Have a11 voted who wish? The Clerk will 1Speaker Redmond: ' I1take the record. 0a this question there's 78 'aye' and jI

' o' Representative McMaster. ' Does that...? Did 175 n .iiformer Representative Geo-Karis have leave to use our !

Yo u # r e .' amo n g f t i e n d s ,' :' Ad 1. a i. . Rep r e - 1ph ones ? Rep r es en t :. é 'x E'' i

s enta t ive; McMas teri. '''' (IMcMaster: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would'you put this Bill Il

on Postponed Consideration, and 1et me say, Mr. Speaker. 11

' I want to thank the...you and the whole House for giviag '

Ime the opportunity to have these two Bills voted on. I :

do have to leave. The eaergency is that I have a daughter(

getting ma'rried, and there is a rehearsal this afternoonI

and a rehearsal dinner: and I thank you very much for the if

courtesy you have shown me. Thank you.'' ji. !

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Speaker Redmond: ''0n the Order of: Consideration Posfponed

appears House Bill 158. It's on page 42. Representative !' I. y# ' iHuskey. . !

i' Huskey: ''Mr. Speaker, I would like to move l58 back to Second l

1Reading for an Amendment.lî . I

1speaker Redmond: ''Does he have leave to move 158 back to the l

lorder of Second Readingz Hearing no objçction, leave is !

'from the floor?'' 1grantpd. Are there any Amendments !iclerk O'Brien: ''Amendment //2, Huskey, amends House Bill l58 ''i$

as amended in Section 186-100 and so forth.'' 1;

s eaker Redmond : ''Repres enta t ive Husk ey . '' ;17 .

Huskey : ''Wel1 , Mr . Speaker , I talked to the leadership on !1

both sides. In regards fo thisa'Amendment, it's changing

one word from, excluding, ...from, including, to, exclud-

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ing , on a home rul e provis ion , and I vould move f or its

'aL ' 2, v' tft e x'lvc:e ;-'e .Q'I ''wan t ' a ''.ado p t ion . But.,. ' 1. do lh ave' r too: men

ty po gra ph i ca1 er ro r amen d e d . (pJf r,'t.h er-f a'c e - i f . 'I.:.c o uld'. .' g e t

1 e a v e t o do t'h a t Mr . S p e ak e'r .''t'; o s 7 u .v .' :;' .'. '> . . ..

Speaker Redmond : ''What is .tlze typo graphical 'erro r? 'fIHuskey: ''It says 186, and it should be l8B in line 2...in linet3.''!I

Speaker Redmoad: 'lDoes he have leave to make that correction II1

on its face? Hearing no objection, leave is granted. jjN

ow, have you cleared this with Representative Barnes and tI

Representative Yourell?'' !. f

'' ' h ve the opportunity to talk .to Representa- !Huskey: I did: t ai1

tive Yourell about it, Mr. Speakery but he's very restful :1lover there, thank God.'' !i

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Ispeaker Redmond: ''okay: the question's on the Gentleman's 11

imotion for the adoption of Amendment 2. Those in favor I

say 'ayes. 'Aye'. opposed, 'no'. The 'ayes' have it.

The motion carries; Amendmeat's adopted. Any further

Amendments?''

clerk O'Brien: ''No further Amendments.l' '!1

speaker Redmond: ''It'1l be returned to the Order of Considera-il

tion Postponed. 161 on page 42. Representative !Il

VonBoeckman. VonBoeckman. VonBoeckman. Priority of 'l

call, House Bills, Third Reading appeari'ng on page 3.

A mtstake in the talendar. :The :first Bill shoùld be-1138.@

Representative Beatty. Representative Bradleyzl

Bradley: ''We11, thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentle-

men of the House. 1138 was taken out of the record last i!

night as we were about to ad1 ourn y and we Were under the . . . I1

discussing Che Bill, and at that time I made the 1We Were

explanation of the Bill, and thereld been some questions

by Represntative Johnson and others that I understand

now have been cleared up. The intent is to establish...!i

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or the: intent of this Bill is to establish simple andt

workable rules for the alrocation' of 'receiptslx'and' expenses

between principal and income' to guide trustees, executives,

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and the administration of trust and estates where thëre

. . . ) . ' . . . - ., .jqi. -tj-. . :- ., ... , , - .are no instructions left to gùide Ehem'.byk tnThe' o1d c .

. d i d no t: s a t is f a c t o r i ly d e f ine th e allo c'a't f-on' >..*.u-1e'spi; t ' .. : ' .. ;, : . .

lappl ic able to th e new f o rms o f t rus t inves.tment s% ' wh i'ch t 1

t rus t e e s we r e inc r e a s ingly p ur ch as in g o r o t.h.erwi's'e . .'ë .. . .

acquiring. The Bill: in the present form, is a résult oflsome eight years or wori by Joint commtttees, the Illinoisl .

' j' Association, chicago Bar Association, and the chicago !Bar

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tBar Association Committee have been working oa this for

Iquite some time. The present Illinois Act contains some $

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cumbersome and repetitive language and usek terminology llI

which has become obsolete. The new Act is intended to be l1a comprehensive and detailed set of Vrust accountingii

rules wbich shbuld be adequate to prevent a judiciary, 11l'

to allocate most receipts and expenses he is likely to i1

encounter. It's a good piece of legislation. It is '. ' j

endorsed by the Chicago Bar, the Illinois Bar. There was :

no opposition that I know of. I have quite a detailed. p .

7explanation of the legislation, but in behalf of Repre- '

sentative...former Representative Bradyy aùd Representative:!

Beatty, and Representative Bradley I ask for a favorable :. l

Roll Call on House Bill 1138.'' :

speaker Pierce: ''The Gentleman from Champaign, Mr. Johnson. 1: t

,' . . :Representatfve Fierce in the Chair. . )1

Johnson: ''Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. Mr. Bradley, j. . I

Representatives of the Bar Associatton. our staff analystsf,. Tl

and two' attorneys who are key in proposing and formulatingè'

. lthis legislation, have talked to me. I looked at the '!. 1

Bill in the analysis. I think it's a good Bi11. It 1'

jStreamlines 0ur principle and interests, allocations, and 'i

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really adapts itself to modern realities. That certainly'

jweren't the case when the '4l Act was enacted, and, in ,

light of that, I certainly urge a yes vote. j

speaker Pierce: ''A11 right. The question isi-fshall'this Bill. '- ;':

pass?' A11 those in favor Wi11 vote êaye'f. Opposed,

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'nay'. clerk will take the record. Pierce, 'ayeê. Have

. ..' . ' a1z vo ted who wish ? 'rhe . czerk .t1l txk: th'è ''z;vei% ..i.'a' .'# w'ozi'ca-! '-'?' ':r.'.-'. - j

t h i s B i l 1 t h e r e a r e 1 4 0 # a y e ' v o t e s 4 ' n ay ' ' v o t e s 71, ?. .'- ':'' - : r'f1' '- <' . 7;Y :k'.

vo t i n g ' p r e s e n t ' , a n d t h e B i l 1 . . . a C o n s t i t u t i on a 1 Màl.jzo'r i. t y ' :;. L..' ) ''

1h a v in g b e e n r e c e i v e d , t h e B i 1 l i s d e c la r e d p à s é e d ë ' ' On . .'' '' 'F-V L'.i û r-1

IThird Reading appears House Bill 1269. 0n that the Chair ,

ognizes the Gentleman from Cook: Mr. Schlickmane'' 1. rec' jl

Sthlickman: HThank you.'' 1. I

'Brien: HHouse Bill 1269. A Bill for an 'Act to amend 1Clerk O i

1Sections of an Act in relation to fire protection districté.

t' !Third Reading of the 3il1.H ?1

hlickman: HMr. Speaker: Members of the House, present 1aw 1ScI

provides that an unqincorporated territory, which is part 1

of a fire protection district, when annexing to a munici- l' 1'

. :pality that provibes fire protection service, that terri- )'

.fttory shall automatically, by operation of law, be dis-

. i. fconnected from the fire protection district. Thereby, i

. Jeliminating double taxation. If the affected fire pro- '

;!

' tection district believes that the disconnection wi11 take'

too mucb accessed valuation away from the fire protection' i

district, and thereby impair its ability to provide fire

::

' if the disconnection Qakes of the remainder of tbe fire !l

tection district two noncontïguo'us parts, the ffre JProt

protection district may petition the Circuit Court and !

have the Circuit Court determine whether or not the dis- tl

connection should be disallowed. What House Bill 1269 kl!

does is to provide that if a petition to disallow a dis- si1connection is filed, that the fire protection district ii

shall serve a copy of tbe .petition upon the affected 11

munictpality, and the affected municipality would Yecome !.

;a party to that proceeding. The Bill vas caused to be '

' Iint ro du c e d b y tlt e Muni c i p al L e a gue ; r epo r t e d o u t - o f ':'.f. 2: d

i .' ' ' Co mmi t t e e w i tho ut a d is s en t i ng vo t e , and I s o 1 i'c i t yo'ur ' '''' '' ' ' ' ' -

favorable consideration.'f

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86.

Speaker Pierce: Hls there any further debate? The Gentleman

. .,, y. from Wi11.. ,No. The.question is, 'Shal1 this Bill pass?l' . -

... A11 those in favor will vote îaye'. A11 those opposed

, ...- will vote 'nay'. Have a11 voted who cished? Have a1ll

voted who wished? The Clerk <i11 take the record. on .1l

this Bill there are 135 'aye' votes, 3 votinz 'nav'. 8 i' ''-'' * * !

Ivoting 'present'. The Constitutional Majority having beenlIreceived, the Bill is declared passed. Representative... !I

for what reason does the Geatleman from Cook, Representa- 1l

,' 1tive Marovitz rise? !!

Marovitz: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise for the purpose of !I .j 'aa anaouncement, which I was asked to make todayy and I l!

vould hope that the secretaries in the offices and those '

Representatives who are down perhaps having lunch might

pay attention. I was asked to get a list of those members

of the Illinois State Bar Association Assembly for thel

attorneys that are in the House of Representatives, as welt

as those Senators that may be able to listen throughout

the complex. I have that list, and any attorneys in the

House or the Senate that would like to stop by my desk,

I have that list right here, and if you'd like to make

those phone calls to the Bar Association Assembly members

over the weekend or during the next week I have the list

from every district throughout the State of Illinois.

Please stop by my desk and pick them up. For the secre-

taries back in the offices if your boss has gone home or

maybe having lunch, please send somebody over to pick one

up for him. This is important.'l

Speaker Pierce: HThank you. On Third...on Third Reading

appears House Bill 1297. The Clerk will read the Bi11.'l

clerk o'Brien: ''House Bill 1297. A Bill for an Act to amendl

Sections of an Act to provide for the manner of levying

and imposing taxes for the.r.for the provision of special

- services narrated within boundaries of home rule units . ..

and non-home rule municipalities and counties. Third

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''- rJ''-'x '-s p'eaker: Pi e/'c e : ''Thê -Ciài r . reco--gni z es . th e Gen t l eman f rom

x.. '.' Will; Representatiée Kempiners.''

'-ziz.l= .': Kempinérs: HThank you, Mr. Speaker. This Bill amends the' j

. . 1u ' Act dealing with special service districts. Currently, jl

the provision in the Act regarding enlarging those districlsi!

require that when an additional territory is to be taken 1I

in, a mailing of notification must go, not only to those Il

eople vho . 'are in the area propos ed to b e added , but also 117 l

to al1 the residents in the entire distrtct. It becomes 1!

i1l very stmply states 'a very costly procedure. This B ji

that where the area to be added represents less than five 1i

percent of the assessed valuation of the entire original !!l

area, only the portion to be added must be mailed a noticel1!

of the hearing. There still is required under the 1a< $I

that a aotice of the public hearing be published in the

newspapers but it would eliminate the necessity for send-

ing a notice to each of the residents that already are

in the existing territory in the tax district. It's a...

an expensé-saving measure, and I would ask your support

for House Bill 1297.''1

speaker Pierce: ''Is 'there any further discussion? The question;

iss fshall this Bill pass?' A11 those in favor will vote i:f

' ' 0 osed will vote fnay'. Have a11 voted who wish/aye . pp ji

The Clerk will take the record. On this Bill there are ii. !

142 voting 'ayef, 5 voting 'nay', 2 voting 'present'. 'j;

. . !The Bill having received the Constitutional Majority is tl

declared passed. The Gentleman from Sangamon, Mr. Kane. 1l

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, lFor what reason do you rise, Sir? jI

Kane: '''To make an announcement. Ia reference to what Repre- i' !I

sentative Marovitz said is that any nonattorney who would 1

like a list to call to urge the support of that resolution,

they can get Ehe list from either Tommy Hanahan or Ted

' Lechowicm or myself.''

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Speaker Pierce: HOé Dave Robinsba. On Third Reading...on the Order of Third

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7C le r k-J 0 i B't t e n'': '.' rvJ' tl'o u s e B i'11 ' .1 3 6 2 . A B i 11 f o r an Ac t t o am en d

s e c t i o n s o f t h e S c h o o 1 C o d e . 'r h 1. r d R e a d i n g o f t h e B i l 1 . ''

Sp eaker Pierce : 'll'he Chair recognizes the f riend o f animals ,

the gentleman frcm Dupage, Representative Schneider.l'

Schneider: nIf this won't effect your district. It doesn't

cost anything. ask a favorable Roll Call. Mr.

chairman, Speaker ratber, I would like to... reluctant

to call this around lunch time and I do ask perhaps

that the galleries be cleared because you can never tell

what children learn in these kinds of discussions. I

do want to point out that I did bave an amendment.

had a couple of pages. Oney to have the Bill enforced

by German Sbepard Police Dogs, also; to have the Bob

Blair proposal for bullet proof glass : reinstalled but

that amendment was not successful and éo we are trying

to proceed to deal with an issue that some of you are

familiar with. Incidently, the names thàt have ranged

against a1l of us. Not just me folks. But'against a11

of us. Yesterdays score card showed godless monster

trailing heartless fiend four to one but a new one has1.

moved along: aad beén adopted by my seat mate here.

have now been made a noble, I am now Count Sadist. That

they get any better is frightening but ve should be awar

that we're going to try to deal with an issue in a fair

and reasonable manner. There was an amendment added.

It was not a gutting amendment. It was a favorable

amendment, amendment that expanded on the definition.

I would like to explain that tbat amendment is cross-

referenced to the portion of the statutes that deal with

humane treatment of animals. I think that should simpli

'fy 'for us; at'leàsi,-who Tre trying to look at it ration

ally the understanding of the 1aw and frankly, hopefullyy

try to pass it. I realize there have been problems...J k .' ;..+ * xt . .ys.arxk-y G E N E R A L A S S E 51 B L Y 5 - 1 8 - 7 9I ! % : ï. zjx. 'k' , l l ? s r A. 'r s. o p. I u u ! sl o I s$ 7 '> ..j . . .' . 2t 7 . . 7

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Some of you have gotten some vary intriguing mail..., , . ts jy u .! p . . . . yj . y . jj y jy u jy o u y; .Ré P r e S en t a t J.V é' Jlfl'z é' 1 s d 6 g h a s b e é v e y p s

t h e B i l 1 even r t ho u'glf thé ' s ' b e en t o l d b y hi s ma s t e r t ha t

h'e is 'exempt un d er ''-the ' î. ao Tt 'p' .i' e s èn t ly . Ev en Ha r o ld Ka t z is

exempt under thedra'w 'pre'sently. Cats and dogs are out

of the Bi11. 0h, Katz isn't even here. What do you

knew. You know when Katz aye, you know when he votes.

How about Representative Wolf? Refs tn the Coyote Bi11.

Alright. At any râtej very simply wefre trying to change

the 1aw to authorize experiments that are aot harmful

or cruel. 'Presently the 1aw does not allou for that.

We 'are reallyy in many casesp the teachers thàt is and

the children are in violation of the 1aw because they

are performing' non-cruel experiments on animals. That

is watching guinea pfgs grow and watching eggs hatch:

looking under the microscope. A11 of bhose kinds of

things are presently illegal. Most textbooks in Biology

deal with trying to e'stablish experiments and districts

normally buy'lthose books in various types of categories,

but in all.'reality what happens is that *hey are in

violation of the law. This does not, this Bill does not

allow the kinds of grotesque descriptions youeve been

' getting œ tther about the language or about the sponsor

so I would, of course, be glad to answer any questions

and I would be glad to allow others of you to make a

few remarks in support. And no experimentition on

the state animal.''

Speaker Pierce: nTbe gentleman from Cook, Mr. Bowman is rec-

ognized.''

Bowman: ''Thank you Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the

House. I got a lot of mail on this too as everyone else

here did and so I went and I read the statutes. I hope

everyone of you read the statutes that are involved. Not

only the'statute that is being'amènd'ed, but 'the statute

thatês being cross-referenced by the amendment to 1362.

First of all: the statute in it's resent form, the

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an y li v i n g . an im a 1 . f o r .. t h e . p ur p' o s e ; c2 af .2. d qpo n p g lcaat i o n e t c .. . .

shall be permittedl. Nqy. a simple experiment.llke having

a rat in a maze is a usefultexperiyentcto demonstrate

psycological principles.'hlt causes the creature absol,

utely no discomfort whatsoeverzvin fact, he gets fed at

the end of the maze and, in fact, he gets fed anyway.

He. It is an expekimeat which would be prohibited

by the present law. I think a 1ot of people were ignorant' of the 1aw and ignored the 1aw for many years and think-

ing that it probably didn't even exist until a court

case came up in the Glennburg school district. Ia any

event, the, the Bill seeks to provide certain kinds of

exemptions so that certain kinds of experiments would

be permissable. Now 1et me tell you what the Humane

Treatment of Animals Act provides. First of all, first

of all, if this Bill passes the school districts and

the teachers involved would have to supply a sufficient

quantity of good quality: wholesome food and water to

the animals. Adequate shelter and protection from the

weather. Ve/erinau care when needed prevent suffering and

. humane care and treatment. Those are dutles imposed

by the Act. Prohibited acts would be beating, cruelly

treatingy tormenting, overloading, overworkiag, or abuse.

Simple abuse is prohibited under this Act. Abandonment

of the animal where it may become a public charge is

also prohibited and lastly, yes understand, and

lastly...

Speaker Pierce: 'lFor what purposeyifor what purpose is

the gentleman from Marion, Friedrich rise?''

Friedrich: 'Q want to inquire if this is a fillabuster.'l

Speaker Pierce: f'No, this is an explahatidn of vote you know.

We're on the main question.''

Friedrich: ''How long does he.bav.e. to do this?e''

Speaker Pierce: ''Ten minutes.tt

Friedrich: ''Wel1 I would say one thfng, if he does this on

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' every Bill weCll be here till Christmas.''

' '- J' . . :' E' C's .- * 'j .2- ''7 :': ''k iF: ;'- : k .y,' i:k v -) q?b' o': . : .L, ih (.l .à.. j: , (: : 2 .)6? k. t' ?. ' . t.. . . j . . . . .: .Speaker Pierce: HWe11 the gentleman from Cook, I m si/e. . . . . . , .. .

' z. .!, . ) '. à .?. ( C . J. . c J - '() . ' hwill keep within the tea minutes. MrJ Bèkman.'' 'u .

' : t : '' . 7 - J i: -7 J' 'Y' ? 1k ! t ' '' ' C' ''1, ' - '- . ,. - 7 - ' # . ' 'B owman : Y e alz > I wa s c onc 1ud in g . I s a id y ân d ba's t 1j an d th en

Representative Friedrich cut me off. Andfîalstl#kwiolait?

tion of that Act is a Class C misdemeanor. So that

we do have criminal penalties imposed if the Act is

violated. I think it's a reasonable approach. I think

the amendment goes a long way towards solving the pro-'

blem the people were complaining about and I thinki;

as amended, it deserves our vote.''

Speaker Pierce: ''The gentlemaa from Dupage, Mr. Hoffman is

recognizeè. Re's on the other side'of the aisle.''

Hoffman: ''Thank you Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the

House. The genesis of this Bill came from hearings

beld by the School Problems Commission. And what weîve

attempted to do with the Bill originally was to conform

the 1aw with what I think M ybody'wouldzconsider; most people

would consider, reasonable present practices in the

schools. In order to meet some of the opposition that

we have received and you have heard from, we removed the

word 'cruel' which some people were concerned that you

couldn't define and cross-reference it to the Humane

Care of Animals Act because there's no intention on the

part of the Commission or no intention on the part of

the s/onsor or myself or anyone else involved to do

anything but what's right, not only for man but also

for animal. And so as the Bill in its present condition

or is in 1ts present condition is, I thfnk, an extremely

feasonable and logical way to pursue aad to proceed on

this particular issue and I would appreciate you support

for tbis legislation.''

Speaker Pierce: nThe gentleman from Cook, Mr. Cullerton is

recognized.''

cullerton; ''Would the gentleman yield for a question?''

S eaker Pierce: ''He indicates he will.''

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Cullerton: HRepresentative, what t'ype of experiments that. .

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r e n o w' p r o h t b i t e d d o y o u w i s h t o h a v e' p'e t f o r'i e d ' i rf ' 'i h' é ' ' ; 'a1 i f t h i s d o e s p a s s ? '' ' '' ''..'' ,. 'C

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Sp eaker P ierce : f'Gen t leman f r om Dupag e , Mr . S chne tde r to' ; c.t ; : ,.,.... - ,'y1% .

answer a question.

Schneider: ''Those are questions decided at the local level

by the curriculum directors, the s'cience teachers and

.tKdt Jchool Board. Thàe's not a matter that llke I

to decide no more than I determine other factors on

educational programs. I don't teach, fcr example,

what to... don't tell as a legislator what to teach

in a History class which is required so I don't make

that decision. That decision, however; is made at the

local level uith a1l the proper safeguards that go

with that kind of regulation.''

Cullerton: ''Thank you.''

Speaker Pierce: ''The gentleman from Macon, Mr. Borchers.''

Borchers: ''Mr. Speaker and fellow Members ofbthe Rouse.

think was maybe one of the two who voted against

this Bill fn Committee. 1. It was an honor chen'

I was in high school to take care of the animals and

I was one of those who had the honor. I.i,/well rememberq;

looking back. I tried to do right but being a boy I

forgot often to feed the animals as I should take care

of them. What guarentee is there at this moment that

the individual schools are going to take the proper

care to see that the children who are in charge and I

doubt if the teachers will be doing the work, I'm sure

it will be the children in the schools doing the work

will take care of this duty? I suspect.it' very much.

Now as far as schools, school experiments concerned

or humanitarfan experïment ts concerned what fs that?

I doa't know. 1'm quite sure that Doctor Mangelly,

who is the principal torturèr you might'saj a't' the'

prison camp, or the conqentration camp at Treblinka

experimented with the Jewish woman. women there with a

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j j 9 3 .I! I' full idea that he was doing something àor humanity.l .. :

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' 1 the various schools, the various teachers, the varfou's

indivtduals involved in such a programy that without

any doubt there will be cruelty, extreme cruelty causei ;i ! there's no way of checking it up and I hate to think

of a frog or a rabblt or whatever being used in an1' jlli uncruel manner. donft hesitate a moment and it1I$

#11 wouldn t bother me a bit to shoot a guy dead. BMt to! l1' torture him: that's another matter entirely aad I couldl l . .: l ' dra

w the line if what is right and what is wrong.lj So I'm gofng to vote no and you can, of course, do aslI1

ou please.''l y! i

l speaker pierce: ''Alright, the gentleman from, from cook,l! Mr . J a f f e . ''I' Jaffe: ''Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Because I knew

lI Representative Borchers was against this particular Billl

I ran out and polled' from his constituents. talkèd

to Mickey Mouse and I talked to Donald Duck and I talked

to Woody Woodpecker and Zermit the Frog and Yogi Bear

Webber's dtstrict and tbey sayand their residents of

the B111 is actually But I'm serious though, 1et me

just tell you that the present 1aw ts really unreasonable

and it really restricts the teachers in teaching Biology

and Science. And I thfnk ff weCre gofng to 1et teachers

teach Biology and Science we are going to go in con-

formance with the Illinois Association of Biology Teach-

ers who have requested this and tbink we ought to be

1 forgiving our kids a good education in Bi8logy and

1 .'1 Sctence. think this is a really very reasonable Bill

and I would urge an aye vote.lî

''Ibe Chair recognizes gentleman from Jackson 'Speaker Pierce: >

Representative Richmond.lf

'Richmond: HThahk you Mr. Speaker. I move the previous qu'est-li O R. . ' '

Speaker Pierce: ''The previous question has been moved bv the

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. . . .. . w. e .. u . I .. :. ..b . , :.' ' i previous will say 'aye'y opposed.. And the previousi!

'question carries. The gentleman from Dupage to close.î'

..: . 1. l ' - - : .: . .( Schnéfder) HWe1l thank you Mr. Speaker and Members. I have (I ' Ik as a symbol of the House, you know, webve a11 gone from 1.I!! . l1 satnt Representattve Aquinas to headless and god... welli l1 godless monsters at any rate, but you should keep inI! l: mind that the things that are considered animals orltj any living organism that's typically capable of movingl ;k , -!1 about but not makiag it s own food by photosynthesdsl '

1 .! someone like tbe night life aroun'd here but basically,

Ii it means you can't look through a microscope at single! !!11 celled aniaals, you cannot really do as I describedl lj !tI earlier, observe little animals.and others in their, Il !

growth vpatterns aad record that. There is some questfonI2 whetber or not you could even do any kinds of food! 'Il 1'! tasting in classrooms that are directed toward Homel '

Economics. There are many other categories. I think

if you pass th.e legislation a 1ot of the fears tbat

people have about the proposition itself will diminisb.

!: whea you understand that if you trust your School

2Board or your local dïstrict and your curriculum d A ectorsI 'Ilj that they will take càre of these problems. CertainlyI

yOu must trust your teachers. I solicite an aye voce.'l

Speaker Pierce: HThe gentleman have... The question is shall

this Bill pass? A11 thdse in favor will vote aye,

a1l tbose oppose will vote nay. The Chair recognizes

the gentleman from Cook , Mr. Mugalian to explain his

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. Mugaliail l'Thank you Mr. Speaker. I rise to explain my vote

and also to rise because my dog Chesterîs name was

named in debate. Now yourve heard people talk about

their family dog being like a member of the family.

That's not a accurate statement in our household. 0ur

dog is better than any member of our famfly because

I he kets treated better than any member of our family.'/VU'' ' * - G E N E R A L & S S E 51 B L 5' 5 - 1 8 - 7 94trj5:(/j4 :- 1'.-:- fr . .J . ekti ,......:.% ; !% . y'lu.. ' : j j ) s 'r A 'r b: o yr 1 u u I N o k sh. k.-*-z-fz4 - -n, .' 'y-i a o t . s e o s R s p 'R s: s s 'q v x m 1 u s s . .. -

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i 1 ,1$ We re also foster parents of two cats. Soxey andI '

l I - .j . .- .... . . . ' ' ' jI Tuxey '.and I dod t have to tell you what those words

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1 l .' ' prob,ably ieanu .one ôf our cats resembles someone dressedI !I l ' ' . ' ' ,t ih q iuxedo:, but we re extremely fond of Chester and j! i t

1) wé 'got him.two years ago' and had to walk him from 1l ix o ' c lo ck in t he morning f o r the f ir s t walk and ab outs

I eleven olclock at n'ight through tbe two coldest wintersl ! .;i in history. 0ur dog is spoiled and he won't go outI

I1 and do what he's suppose to do on his own. We have al i! l great emotional and financial interest in our pets.l I1 . discussed this with them and I've. explainedl But I vel( it to them, they were first very antagonistic but theyI iI!1 think that the school children of Illinois are entitledl 1

1 and deserve to know something about how the animalt1 1, kiagdom works and to give school children an opportunityII

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l to see how to better take care of the animals and how

they function and at the request of my pets, I#m going

to support this Bi11.H

Speaker Pierce: ''Tbe Chair recognizes the lady from Cook,

Representative Hallstrom to explain her vote.''1

Hallstrom: ''Thank you Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen

of the Eouse. I was the other Member besides Represen-

l tative Borchers who voted against this Bill in theEducation Committee. I have had more mail on this

' Bill, I guess, than any other Bill introduced into tbe

legislature. I really believe that the two spoasors

think that theyîre doing an honorable and good thing.

But somehow the informmtion thatls been leaked out have

been so negative tbat no matter what you do to this

Bill right now, I think legislators voting for it are

going to be in trouble. I do ask that you do not vote

on this... that you vote no on this Bi11.1î

Speaker Pierce: ''Alright,.he'was hentionèd in debate so I re-

cognize the jè'itléman from Cook, Mr. Wolf.''

Wolf: ''Thank, thank you Mr. Speaker. 1 would be very serious

about this Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I received

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i s mu c h n e g a t i v e m a i 1 1 ' m s u r e t h a t a nyb o d y in th e( T aI1 l .11 'House receivik. aad fe: tdlepéoae calls besides. I,1 l1

' ''' 'itsconèéptton of thts Bizl.: thtnu there s a. grdat:i .!I .! l It has beeù ' di..sv.ri'bdtèd . among tHe public . I answeredI1 t

lti my matl in thiy.manner, that I'm certain, ftrst of all, 1' ji i!

I'm convinced in sincerity of the sponsors of this lI 11 I($ legislation. People have conjurred up vtvisection andi !j 'I a11 kinds of things in their mind, but obviously al1I14 experiments with animals are not cruel and I wouldI llI 1 present this example which I did in letters that IIî

answered to my constituents. Take for example, twoI .' white mice in a cage. 0ne is fed vitamins for a certain1

! .I period of time. The object of the experiment is toI j .61 show the students that vitamins are aecessary to our

diet. There is absolutely nothing cruel about an

experiment of this kind and that's what the sponsors are' j trying to get at

. I think with the amendment that we

placed o'n .tbe Bill' which cross-references it to the

Humane Animal Act certainly would prevent any cruel or

inhumane experiment of the type that people think and

' if you want to be governed by ignorance of people who

don't understand the legislation, well I guess you can

' vote no, but I think a legislators job is to stand up

and inform the public the true facts of the legislation

and Ifm voting aye.''

Speaker Pierce: lfThe gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich

is recognized to explain his vote.îf

Matijevich: ''Mr. Speaker I only explain my vote because

reference was made to our mail and this is probablyl' '

r #one of the most glaring examples I ve seen since I ve I

been in the legislature where wefve received mail and

itês so emotional that we are a11 voting not on wbat ,

we think is right, but because of a reaction to the

mail. And I maze a cbuple' calls t6 some of those whoI

wro te to me and I f ound o ut tha t they wouldn ' t l is ten to

1 c o m p r o m-i- ..s e- - -a-n- .- .d I t h i n k t h a t i f i t w e. -r- e n ' t f o r t h a t m a i 1; mc ,- '.,S ' n. . s s E M B 1. Ya i-p

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!' that this, this legislation probably would receive onlyl

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y .j a f e w n e g a t i v e . v o t e s . T h i s . i s o n è : (5 f t tz o s e c a s e s ,ii i .i ; think , wh ere s omeb ody' 'and we1 ve.. 'all ' heard.. i.t ' s a id to u s ,i!! l .. . ' J : .j if you really th ink ' s ombe'thihj''' i%! f. i gh t in your own con-!1 1 science how would' you vote-. f oi'' i't 'if you received a11 1.1 iI ili kiads of mail against it. And I really think the .mostp!I ll I j1 the best thing to do ts to vote for it if you think it si ;

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11 right and that... and therefore'; support the legislatio1 I! l!! evea though I think those who wrote agaiast it were: lI i ,,! misinformed..1 li1 Speaker Pierce) ''The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Cook,(I)' Mr. Huff to explain %is votez'1 110 Huff: Thank you Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of theI Il ,il House. would just simply remind tbe Members that thelI idium of education itself an experiment and think

the greatest cruelty would be to limit or to prohibit

the exploration :of a youag man. That's why I'm opposfhg

this Bi11Z'

l Speaker Pierce: ''Alrighty the Chair recognizes the gentleman

1 ,,from Marion, Mr. Friedrich to explatn his vote.!Friedrich: ''Mr. Speaker I guess this a lost cause but

I want to remind you that the school children of today

are the doctors and the scientists of tomorrow. And

youîre going to deprive them of the rfght to examine

animals and yet they can't even look at a mosquito under

a microscope if you don't pass this Bill legally. Now

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' jI don t think you realize what you re doing. I got

enough letters against this tod, but I did study the

@ Bill I wrote them back , I say I think youRve been given

the wrong information and regardless of what you say

I''m going to vote for the Bill and think therels a 1ot

of people on this floor don't even realize that this

legfslation is needed if wepre going to bave knowledge

in our schools.''

Speaker Pierce: ''The Chair recognizes the lady from Champaign,

Re p r e s e n t a t i v R S a t t e r t ltw.-a i t e .t œ---e-x.p-.l a i n h e r v o t e . ' '

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1 I wa s o n t h e commi t t e e t h a t 1z e ard t li'e B i 1'1...' . t ' f e ït tha t! ': j . , . . . . jjy jj u s ,, a.a d . .th e 0 r i g ina 1 1an gu ag e o f t h e B i 11 w as t.o o :am éu1 I

1 i .. . . 'l I c an und er s t and th e c on c ern o f t h e ' p d o p'l.e' -;ki1 6 c c;n t a c t e d!

1 ,l I ou either by 1et ter or l)y phone ia . oppé's it ion t (') 'theyi

.Bt11 in that form. The'amendment, however; I think,

really clarifies that situation very nicely. It refersi 1

to a section of the stàtutes that goes into great detaillj about good care of anfmals and prohibits any kind ofII 1jj action that we would feel was unwarranted in our class-I1 rooms. With that amendment, I think it is opr responsi-1 .l

1 bility to educatéoour constituents who contacted us thatIthe Bill is not in the form in which they knew it and as

1 tt is now, z thtnu it is a good Bt11. It will providel' a means for using animals in a classroom in a humane

way. It will give the teachers a reference to the

section of our statutes that apply to the care of

animals and I think we now have made' a very good Bill

'out of one that was bad. I urge that you support tbe

Bill then contact your constituents and let them know

that it's aot the same Bill that it was before.''

Speaker Pierce: 'Qhair recognizes the gentleman from Làkey

Mr. Deuster to explain his vote.''

Deuster: nWe11 Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen o'f the House.

Iîm generally one who put the red light 'on to begin with

and then I began thinking about this. I happen to have

the statutes at my desk and I think even the sponsors

have been so intimidated by the opposition mail that

Representative Schneider started out by giving us some '

jokes about the subject and it's actually very serious.

He tried to treat it lightly, but the amendment that

theyfve incorporated into this Bill relates the Humane '

Treatment qf Animals Act and it says that no person

beat cruelly treat, torment, overload, overwork,may ,

or otherwise abuse any animal. I think this is strong

enough. I thlnk thly will preven-t anvthinz that is of

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) written letters to you and the folks that.have goitenl I . . -

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a t the b e g inn in g a li t t l e emo t i on a 1' ab o ut t he s ub j e c t : Jzq.: t.'?I j - .'.:l l z tutak this is a p er f e c t ch an c.e f o r a lz o f 'us ., to .. b Q'' .r:.'.. 7. ' :.'. , a. 'l 2I 1 .t

leaders aad to be educators and to write back with'af'' j; !copy of the Bi11 to the people that wrote us and say,

'This has got the adequate safeguards. It incorpor'atesl 1! by reference the Act that you re so much interested in.l

Tbe Rumane Treatment of Animals Actl. That's on theI'j book. If there's something wrong with tiat Act let us

know, but I think this is a responsible Bi11, a good

Bill and I'm sorry that so many of us have been fright-

ened and I wish that aore green lights would go on and

I hope we can turn this around to show that we've gotI II f fl sope guts, we ve got some courage and we re down here

not just to listen or weigh mail: but to read the statutes

and use our brains and our common sense and I hope more

people will come around from red to green. Thaq/ you.''

Speaker Pierce: ''Chair recognizes gentleman from McHenry,

Mr. Skiiner to explain his vote.''

Skinner: '% o wefre going to make 1aw breakers of every kid

in the high school Btology class. That's just absurd.

Theyfre not even going to be able to cut an amoeba up.

, Tbat is just ridiculous. I participated in an advance

Biology class in high school which had to do with rats

and they were killed after they were fed a yarious

diet and theybvere disected and they were evaluated.

NoQ I'm not sure I learned a hell of a lot about

Biology tbatls gqing to help me today, but there are

classmates of mine who did and now have PHD 'S in this

science':or that:science. .It just seems tq me ridiculous '

not to pass this Bill. Unless you really want, unless

you really want high school people, high school kids

in Biology to think welre a bunch of. idiots up here.o

Speaker Piercel ''The gentleman from St. Claire, Representative

Flinn is recognized to explain his vote.'b

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j 100.Flinn: ''We11 Mr. Speaker I believe that red board up there

1 speaks very loudly of something other than the Bill .; lI !'' itself. Itfs'democracy in action is what it amounts su.:j 11

to. The people have written here and I must agree that' !;l1

they must have been informed. I read the amendment andi ;l

I'm going to vote against my constituency and al1 theI .l mail I received and change my vote from no to aye.''I

Speaker Pierce: MThe gentleman from Tazewell, Representative

VonBoeckman is recognized to explain bis vote.''IVonBoeckman: ''We1l Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemea

1 of the House. I too received a 1ot of mail but 1:

I think we ought to take a look and see wbo we receivedI '

these from. We received it from grade school kids andII think welre grown people and the amendment is justified

l d I think we ought to have a 'green vote on tbis.'f 'an

Speaker Pierce: 'lAlright, the gentleman from Wayne, Mr. Robbins

is recognized to explain his vote.''

Robbins: HMr. Speaker and Members & the House. If this had

been the 1aw when I was a boy, I wouldn't have been able

to learn that you can color the yolk of an egg which

1 I did for Easter by putting a chicken up and feeding itIi

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green Eas ter egg dye and you ought to have seen the

peoples f aces when they opened thos e eggs and a11 the

olks was green . 'tY

Sp eaker Pierce : ''l'lle gentleman f rom Lasalle , Mr . Anderson is

recogni zed to explain his vo te . ''

And ers on : ''Ye s Mr . S p eake r . The S choo 1 Pro b l ems Commi s s ion

has worked hard, they go out thoughout the state and hear

testimony. This ts a recommendation of theirs which we

heard in Committee. There were :8 votes for this Bill

and only 3 against it. Now I too have received mail

against this issue, but if you check the statutes, check

the Bill and check the amendment there's safeguards in

there. This is a good Bill and tt's a necessarj Bill if

weîre going to teach our future leaders they must under-

stand Biology. How the plant life and, you know. the

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.lll animal life exist. Where it comes from. A11 thei

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$1 safeguards are buzzt tn thau ve need and z urge you to .' ( tl !'j, .change your vote to yes.''::1 Itl s eaker pterce: ''The gentzeman from Effingham

, Mr. Brummer is.L : I j 'P$ 131 ized to explain his vote.''recogn) I

' (jj Brummer: ''Yes, it lusc occurred to me after looking1I thoroughly at the Bill that partidularly the programs1 !$ ) IU in t h e rural s ch oo ls Qypically they are FFA programs conducted by1r

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Ij the Future Farmers of America organization which is) ! .!j presently in a11 the rural' areas. They frequently1! I'! do differenct types of experiments that are actually1 II l11 outside of the classroom wfth regard to the diet andl

vI! food values of various animals and it has occurred to

! '1 me that that would not even be possible is this Bill isI II j t?

not passed. I am therefore switching from red to green.''l I1 k Pierce: HThe gentlemran from Wi11, Representativel Spea er'

jl l 11! Van Duyne is recognized to explain his vote.!l Van Duyne: ''Ihank you Mr. Speaker. You know, there's a 1otl) more logically thinking people in this General Assembly

that are voting red up there and I just want to appeal! ,to them to use their better judgement

. Now I m a great1I11 exponenc of we, tn the ceneral Assembly, vocing the. viewsi !11 ,jî of our constituency but I really don t Aelieve that thelf .

emotional letters that we gbt, the hundred or the hundred

and fffty that I got, really reflect the true views of

my constituency and I think that the people in this

General Assembly that I see voting red are much more '

lilqi*azsl!r thinkinénpeople thap Ahatk NOW I think we ough t to

change our votes and vote green.f'

Speaker Pterce: 'lThe gentleman from Mcclain, Mr. Ropp is

recognized to explain his vote.''

Ropp: HYes Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I think if

weîll all recall when we were in school we.studied a 1ot

of:things in books and about, I think something in excess

of seventy to eighty percent of that we have stnce forgot

But the thing that I thipk we have really recalled are

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l Ij 102.il things that we have seen with our eyes and been able to

$ visualtze and thts particular Bi1l, I think, provides' j. Il ! .'u that yhere .we càn see throughaexperimentation if for

i$ therureason. than nutritional values we can provideo. no o( t '(( e(

. that kind of an educational experience to these young; i 'tj people that they will remember and certainly improve j1 l' their own' diet by seeing the example that is evidencel i1 Il

jj by the use of experimental animals. And I would certainlt ltt urge you to reconsider your red vote and vote green soI I .1. h t this can be an extremely good educational opportunitt a

l l' for young people.''II1 ,, jt ueaa ,! jpeaker Piercel Geatlemaa... The gentlemaa from. c'

I1 Mr. Bradley is recognized to explain his vote.''i .' b dley: ''No z just wanted to

. . . I just changed from redra

to greenvMr. Speaker.''

. Speaker Pierce: ''Alright, the gentleman from Cook, Mr. Iottenl1 the last oae I see, I hope.''lll Totten: ''Thank you Mk

. speaker and tadies and Gentlemen of theI I .l I .House. I think the greatest reason for giving this Bill

' 89 votes is to allow the Senate to 'get the mail that) 1Ij we got on it and I thfnk it's a good Bi11. Let's give

them a11 a mail and give this Bill 89 votes.''

Speaker Pierce: 'fAlrig*ty gentlemanr...Mr. Hoffman, I think

you spoke on debate. Gentleman from Dupage, Mr. Daniels

wants to add his explanation of vote.'l

Daniels: HI want to add my explanation because I've listened

, j 'to the discussion that we ve had and I ve watched the.

vote go from 30 up to' 74 and I've watched it with interes

because I think thatfs it's become apparent that if we

don't pass this Bill into 1aw that some of the things

welre doing today will, in fact, continue to be illegal

and prohibited by the current law. For instance, as an

example, do you remember add did you bear during the

discussion thit if 'y'ou bave two calves in an agricultural

classroom that you canft feed them different diets? That's

the 1aw today and if you don't pass this then that will

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t ) I r r / 5 ?' --l1I continue to be prohibtted and I think that since wet

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1 bçought this to the.attention of the people of thel .

l ! ,J State of Illtnèis vwe.fll. bavefto.crack down. No< thati Il1 kind.of thiqgaiis'

.ridiculous and there's no reason tol I . .i1 I IU have that type'of. law'in the books today and it's a jI l .

Igood reason to put this into law, pass it on, wefll

contfnue to hear more on ft if there's any additional! 1l ll problems we can address them in the Senate. It's ali good Bill and think the sponsors have been very con-lil iencious of thei: presentation and I'm happy to add1 sci Il my green to it.'' .I1 '' i ht the

. . . Have all voted who wish?j Speaker Pierce: A1r g ,

Have a11 voted who wish? 1he gentleman from Dupage,11 Mr.schneider.''l1 j' schneider: would like.

Speaker Pierce: îfAlright. Have al1 voted who wish? Thel ,-Clerk will take the record.l

1 ff 11Schneiderl Alright, poll the absentees.l

i speaker Pierce: HThe gentleman has at this.. The gentleman

has asked for a poll of the absentees. Voted 87 to 70.

Alright. The gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevicb on

a point of inquiry.''

Matijevich: ''Inquiry if you had a dog in a classroom and the

dog vagged his tall throughout, Vould that be cruel

punishment? That's right. That would be punishment and

that's what wedre trying to avoid.''

Speaker Pierce: HAlright... that's right. The gentleman

from Kankakee, Mr. Cbristensen for what purpose do you

rise to vote aye?''

Chrtstensen: ''From Grundy and I vote aye.''

speaker Pierce: ''Eat a banana. The gentleman from Livingston,

Mr. Ewing for what purpose do you rise?''

Ewing; ''Would you record me as aye?''

Speaker Pierce: ''Mr.' Ewinj chahges-his vote from no to aye.

Alrfght, the gentleman from... the lady from Lasalle,

Reprellnt4tive Hoxsey #or what purpose do you rise?''

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Hoxsey: ''Change my vote to 'aye' Sir.''

S peaker P ierce :' 'f A11 r t'gh t... Rep res prtt gt ive Hoxs ey changes

f r om ' no f t o ' ay e ' . . Al-l r i.ghs.. .Th e, Ge n t.l ema n f r om Ma d i s op ,

lR e p r e s e n t a t iv e S t e e l e ..'' : ' :?.

lSteele: ''change me from 'po' to. 'aye' please.'' ... . #

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IS âker Pierce: lohange Mr. Steele from 'nol to îaye'. The iPe (

1Clerk will call the abseneees. Do ycd cithdrac .your 11

!11 of the absentees? Pardon? A11 right. lrequest fpr.a po . ,. j

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iTh e Clerk wil'l announ ce th eh rdll . '' l1

Clerk Leone: 1191 'aye' '' 1l

'' 9 1 ' ay e s ' . '' 1Speaker Pierce:. 1;

'' 6 7 ' no s ' . ' ' lClerk Leoae:I

Pi '167 î ' The Bill having received the 1Speaker erce: no . i

tConstitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. House !l

1Bill 1547.'1 i

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Clerk Leone: HHouse Bill 1547 A Bill for an Act to amend

che School Code. Third Reading of the Bi1l.'t

Speaker Pierce: HThe Chair recognizes the Gentleman from

Cook, Representative Yourell.''

''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of theiYourell:

House, House Bill 1547 is an Amendment to the School Code

to delete the word, building. and to read, special edu-

cation purposes. lhis is tbe Bill tbat allows school

distticts to levy a two cent tax for special education, 'bufldfng: and what we re tryfng to do wfth House Bill

1547 is to broaden that usage so that, instead of just

being restricted to buildings for special education pur-

poses, we can use it for any special education purposesy

such as personnel and materials. It seems to me in my

discussions vith scbool administrators, and just recently

as last Saturday, they tndicated that there is less need

today for special education bufldïngs since most districts

are experiencing declining enrollment and enough rooms for!17

special educati6n. The majority of the 'distvicts don't !;

need dollars for special education buildings and room.s:

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but do need dollars for special education programs and

aa t e r ia l s and p e r s o nne l . Th a t s' vha t: fh e . 'B i l 1- 7d o es ', and

I ' 11 b e happy to answer any quees t iods' . ''' -1 . ''' '- J. 'it .? .: :' ,; . . ' ' $

S eaker P i e r c e : '' 'fh e Ch a i r r e c o gni z e s'. .uth'e ' G :n t 1 qmaq.v f r om . W i 11P . s

Representative Leinenweber..'' - ILeinenweber: ''Yeah, I have a question or two for the Sponsor.

According to thea.Digest, the Bill deletes the eight year 1l

limitation on Special Education Buildfag Programs Tax 1

and broadens the authorized use of the funds. You ex- 'Iplained the latter part. Does the Bill still delete the !l

41 jeight year limitation?(

i voure zl : ''Y es . '' 11

Leinenveber: HAII right. Mr. Speakery on the Bi11. This is jian annual one. Fortunately, the Governor has had the litsense to veto it ia the past, and Vefve had the sense not .1

' 1to override his veto. A few years ago, because of the

' crying need for special education facilities, the Legis-

lature, in its wisdom vith, perhaps: .a question mark afterl

. 1: it, did permit them to levy a tax for a special educationI l

. :building...for a special education building fund, but theyx 1l

did wi*ely put an eight year limitation, figuring that l' )

;the school districts would do as tbey have done, lev.led the

ltax and built the buildings that they neeped. Now, after :

- tl1 the reason for passing this particular tax has been j' f

accompltshed, and that is the construction of special Il

education buildings,:zwe'findzthe schools nowccoming down lI !

. Ihere trying to get a new tax in effect but to resurrect 1and retain an o1d tax, which is supposed to go out of i

!hich I clatm and many others claim, ls lexistence, and w j

i!really, in effect, a new tax wfthout havfng to go to the li

voters in order to justify raising additional revenue froml' j

i @taxes on the real estate owned by single family home- iI

d EhC OVUCC ;60#iC WhO CCSYdC iR ViC VSVYOQS iOWZCCS 2Z :

: j' s cho o l d i s t r i c t > . I s ug g e s t' 't o y o.u th a't th'e r e a's o n s tha t !

the Governor vetoed the Bi11, and that we failed to over-f

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1 * Li a= * Housl oF GERRESENTATIVESke . . 97* --

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ride the Bill y and that many o f us urged > on the f loor o f

t H e llo us e 1à s t S es s i o n , a r e s t i 11 va1 i d-;.' t h'a t . b u.r p 1 o p le'. :'=.

don ' t want iacreas ed real es t a t es taxes . We'. :h'a.vè;.. ân' '

1o pp o r t un i t y h e r e wh en th e e i gh t y ea r p er io d p as s es ''t.hatl. r: .;: q I.a

. 1lthe people 'in your home towns and in the schopl districts ;

. !d your districts will actually get a decrease in their 1an

Itax. I strongly urge you, in behalf of :the bèleaguered i

iI' real estate taxpayer, and the homeowner, the person in l

' t1your district that's been screaming the loudest

: to vote jl

ing 'no' on this Bill and send it down ia defeat !a resound

Ionce again. '' Ii

Speaker Pierce: lfThe Gentleman...the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. II

Walsh is recognized.'' 'l'jWalsh: HMr. Speaker and Làdies and Genelemen df the House: I..qIt

I rise to echo Representative Leinenweber's words. This1!is a disgrace

. The Legislature, in its kisdom, imposed- 1

an eight year limitation on this for the purpose of build-1

ing, and that was sufficient time to have the special1

education districts build the bui.ldings that they needed

for that purpose. The eight years was put in for a spe-r tiicific reason, and the eigbt years is the reason that theliBill passed the Legislature at that time

. Ye should notp !

and we betray our constituents if we extend the eight... i

!this period beyond the eight years, and then, to add l

linsult to injury, to permit the aoney to be used for otherif

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lpurposes is absolutely a tax increase without a referendumt

(Mr. Speaker, that's a11 there is to it. I urge you to 1i

lvote 'no' on behalf of your constituents who.are crying I

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for tax relief.n Ii

Speaker Pierce: HThe Gentleman from Lasille, Mr. Anderson, is 'jl

' , irecognized. .

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Anderson: ''Yes, will the Sponsor yield for a question?l

,, ' ,r @Speaker Pierce: He indicates he wi11.

And ers on : ''Mr . Yo ure 11 , t o con t inue th e us e o r th e co ll'ect ion

of . i .. o r'' th e l evy o f th is t ax , th e only way tha t yo u could

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-- ' s tb'-#- Tt- ipxul d b e Tei t h a b a c k d oo r r e f e r e nd um . I s t h a t' -

. . j j . . # .. . j ., y ; s .. , j .. . . 0. . .t . .y a .- = . . correct? Under your Bill? . . .

. ... . . . Y our e 11 : l'No , th er e # s no p rovis ion s f o r a b a ck do o r r e f e r endum. ...'''.'.'Js .'

. in th e B i1l . '' . . : ....' .I

l. Anderson:' ''So then, therefs no way of stop...it's lust a conk, 1. .:

l1tinvatioa of it. There's no provision for a taxpayer, if )I

this Bill passes, to get relief from this tax. Is that .I11 Icorrect? 1

Yourell: ''That's correct.'' ' .lIAnderson: 'lThank you, Sir. May I speak to the Billr' j

' !Ir pSpeaker Pierce: Yes. Does the Gentleman from Lasalle,.Mr. 1

IAnderson.- '' I

. l''Yes 1, too, oppose this Bills because it is taxa- 1Aaderson: , !

' 1tion without representation. The General Assembly was .1

' j1p ivery smart... . I

' ';Speaker Pierce: ''What ard ve7 >m at are we?'î (

1Anderson: ''...when we put this eight year lfmit oa this tax, ,

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and 1 think it's time that it comes off.'' l. i

' , I 1 5.Speaker Pierce: The Gentleman from Livingston, Mr. Ewing. ,7

Eving; ''Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Genrlemen of the Housey I i!

have a great deal of respect for the Sponsor, and I believ:!!

that he would indicate to us that there is no increase in ii

the Fate in special education in Ehis matter. That belfesjI

insidious type of tax increase that this is, because Ithe !. Iwhen we allow a tax like this thatês passed for specfal .1

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purposes to be used for additional purposes, if won't 'jl

matter. Your real estate Bills'will go up. You vill pay lll

more in real estate taxes, and schools: yes: will have l.

. , t ' 1more money. But, if ve re dovn here to protect our con- j'

jlstituents, I Vould echo those sentiments that one of the ll

things that we must do is hold down real estate taxesy ll

and I would urge a fno' vote on this.'' '!î

Speaker Pterce: ''The Lady from Cook, Mrs. Hallstromy is. l:

v . î j . .' . .r / . . . '%- '- recognized. . ' .

Hallstrom: 'lThank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen oft

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the House. I understood this Bill to mean or be an answer1''to the Bill that we had yesterday where one of the Rep-

resentatives had a problem in hts district, that they Vad

a:: . levied the tax and that they had the money, but they jI

couldn't use it for other uses. Now, my understanding of .!this Bill is that now if they have that money, they can I

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use it in other needed areas of special ed. For instance/Il

to aaswer the needs of Section 504 of the Rehabilitation II

Ace. The fact that there are schools that don't have an l1Ielevator, they don't have bars for physically handicapped :l

. !children, so this is the answer to me. The other thing !' jis everybody talks about local control from the school !

ldistricts. The school board members are elected, also, !

I think it's not fair to turn around now and say we landl

can't trust the school board members. They#re elected

offtcials, also. Theyfre not going to go and edit on

added taxes. They want to be re-elected, too. wouïd

urge that you vote 'yesl on this Bi1l.''

#speaker Pierce: ''A11 right. The Gentleman from Dupage, Mr.1

' S h n e i d e r : o n a h o t s t r e a k . '' l!

schneider; ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. 1547 is a Bll1 that $!!

opposed, I thinksitwo consecutive years runding, because !1

of the question related to taxes. What has happened: I t!

think, a11 over in the last year or so, is that with the j' 2

ldevelopment of 94142 and the great cost that will bring l

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Inot only upon the state but to some extent upon locals, !ly 'that we re going to need the opportdnities to raise 1l

revenùes to meet the needs of those federal programs. ll

There's no guarantee from the federals that they are going!' j

to keep that supply of money running that they had promlse/

us lith the passage of 94142, so my opposition to the Bill'

in the Past has been that there vas a limited need for

1construction, and that that was once was met the tax could!

Ye terminated, but now tt's my...my own feeling that as

you look at t%e ways to raise funds for, what is going to

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Ibe inevitably an expensive program, this is just one of I

. v - . . . . . . z .. .. , c .. u jy o.s e ''w ay s t h a t W e i'r e t go i n g t 0 S e e t 11 e ' C O S t O f S P e C i a l ' 1

' 7 ' . ' . ' . ...1 ' ' 'n e d > 1: 'C h i rlk , 'r i S '.i n 8 d r a m a t i C a. 11y . I C h i n k t h i s . i s a n

. . :u . Du'limportant Way to allow the locals to participatey and I

. ' wouldy.therefore, ask for an aye vo lspeaker Pierce: ''The Gentleman from McLeany. Mr. Bradleyy is i

l' recognixed.'' . i

. 1'' k d Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, 1Bradley: Mr. Spea er an

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II guess the thing here a few years does help. and I m !I!thinking of some time ago a speech given by Representative'

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Walsh regarding a referendum tn the junior college dis- :' '1.. 1

tricts, and I wish Mr. Walsh would listen for a second. Ji

' )I'm going to try to get a copy of your words, Mr. Walsh, g

Ithat you used here in debate here today, so that when we 1

icome along with that Amendment to allow people that i

' i' '!referendum...allow people that referendum which you are1!

urging them to do by your speech on the floor of the Houses

' to decide whether or not they want to be taxed for a

junior college district. Ifm going to get a copy of the

f the remarks that you made, so that we can read them '. . .0. l' !

into the record, because I know that this year you'll have:I

a change of hearty and you#ll support that concept to !1

allow people that referendum to decide whether they want t!t

to increasé the taxes and aot to be having it imposed 1 ';

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h*m by th2 ZC$iS1ZQQY6a Q Zm dC1i$YQCd Q'OH.YCZY 1UPOZ Q )

I j y e jthat you have had a change of heart. Thank you. !I

' ' j# 1' speaker Pierce: ''The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Piel. l' )

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ptel: ''Thank you, Mr. s'peaker. I move the previous question.ui'' j'

11 jk (Speaker Pierce: A11 right. You...the Gentleman moves t e !l' previous question. .Mr. Walsh has arisen. The Gentleman li

from Cook on a point of personal privilege, and we a11 l), r

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iwant you qto defend your honor against the vicious attack. :' ;

''Tbank you, Mr. Speak'er. You are, indeed, a fair man. !walsh:. j

' R'epresèntative Bradley throws a smoke screen over this '

entire discussion in suggesting that I favored a tax

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without referendum. Tbe question he refers to refe/s to

j unio r î co lleges -wh e.f e,- th er e . ar e is o 1at ed areas o f tli e.

l4tat: that arg:not incsvded.within a junior college

distrlyt, Now.xdr. Speaker. that is an entirelv diffefent.. . '' . ' ... . .. . ?' '. '' 'f ,

lquestion thanvletting.every school district in this state !: .

continue a.tax that is meant to die and to change the j!Ipurpose ef that tax. Mow, Mr. Speaker, to not have ?l

Junior colleges, if I may digress Just briefly to explain !l. 1

my point of personal privileges, to not bave juaior i1I

colleges in every part of the state is similar to not fI

having elementary and high school districts in eiery '!i

part of the state, aad I still insist, Mr. Speaker, that g1

lthey should be by the only means possfble and that is to li

require that they Join up as the legislation in 1965 1' f1

dealing with community colleges instructed them to do.'' Cl1

Speaker Pierce: ''Thank youj your...'l !i

z j :Walsh: HI still urge, Mr. Speaker, that you vote 'no on this..

. 1Speaker Pierce: ''After your honor and discussion you werenêt

raised to speak on...you weren't recognized to speak on

the merits of this Bi11. We had a previous question.

Your honor and discussion has been saved from disaster.:lA11 righty now Representative Piel has moved the previous !l

question. A11 those in favor will pay 'aye' Opposed..'. li

. !lhe previous question has been moved, and altbough...we t

'11 allow' Representative Yourell to close. Rep- 1Nave...we I

;resentative Xourell to close.'? ;!

2Yourell) ''Thank you. Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the :

!House. Many of the points under discussion relative to

. liHouse Bill 1547 have already been addressed, but I think 'if

that Representative Schneider, who rose in support of the 'l!legislatioa, addressed himself to the vital issue relativq

to this two cent levy. When a federal mandate becomes

effectfve' next year, 94142, the school dfstricts fn thè

State .of Illinois'and,alr of. the school districts in the

Pnited States will be faced with a new problem and a ne<

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mandate from the Federal Government. Now, if welre

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p r (7 g r am s 1 e g i s la t i'o.ri: S$t 8a tf 'dyrqNe'l:af -an d t''o t h'e r s h av e i n t r o -

d u c e d , t h e r e t s' né'. 'w a-y t iidtr .. t fifé'- Js è' alt'e' Qk 11 b e ab 1 e t o'''att'e 'blé's'ié': ,w i t h s't a t e r evenue , 1.me e t th o s e n e e d s ' o n é: s' t I

because the Bills dealing with mandated programs eliminatei1I

federal mandates and court-ordered mandates. There are J!

many school districts in the...ia the State of Illinois, 1lpresently, that have t<emendous sums of money in thisILSpecial Ed Building Fund; School District 126

, 60 thousand,i

= 1another school district in my district, ia the 8th Dis. 1

trict. 240,000. Now it seems to me that we ought to be Jl

funds that have already been collected to lapplyiag theseiI

the broadened scope of special education purposes without )

being saddled and inhibited with...with just applying

these funds to buildiag purposes for which a11 of the

school districts that Ifm aware of have already coépleted

their building programs, and so, if you#re really vitally

iaterested in special ed in Illinois, as I know al1 of

you are, then I would hope that you would give an 'ayeê'

vote to House Bill 1547 so that we could at least use

the funds that are presently lying idle, and in some

districts it amounts to ,2, 3, 4. percent of the entire !XL.. !

' ' jeducational rate, the entire educational fund. I see'

Inothing wrong with it. This Bill has passed out of the ;

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Senate and the House on other occasions, and I would hope Il

, f 'j! !you would fiad it possible to give an aye vote to ousellBill 1547.'f Ii

' j !speaker Pierce: ''The question is, 'Shall this Bill passz A1k

îthose in favor vote 'aye'. Opposed will vote fnay'. T:e !. l

1' !Gentleman from McHenry, Mr. Skinner, is recognized for the. q

purpose o f explaininh his vo te . ''

Skinner : ''This is certainly a tax-eater ' s record vo te . What

' r e do ing h e'r'e- ' 'o r kh'a t' 'fh e' S pbiià 6 r Q i é ' id (fid'g ' as k in g.We , ,è

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for a tax rate continuatioa without a referendum. There

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was never a referendum. We told them levy the tax ten

,- ,(.) j .., tj ),j è u' r;' w: g j. .-c.j fk yl jj ,â' 4: jy .ù ( y .; czl u ji jj . .years ago or so before mosf . .Iw'e s a i d y o u c a n do i.t f o r e i gh t -' y d z'r s $ ' b'ti i fd ' a : b u' ild'i h g ; l

'.. t: u e ? .'.à'.ix:. jùymù r e . ljand when i t g e t s f in i s h e d > . d o n ' t'.L .l'evy: .1

y s - .ktzo: tueir. 1,If school distrtcts have threù to f ur perce Itotal' annual revenues lying idle in this fund, they j'

, Icollected the money illegally, and they should not be !

I'est lallowed to use this ill-gotten money. I would sugg I

Ithat if they want to get rtd of the money, that the Spon- 1

Isor come forward with a Bill that would allow them to

' jbate it to the taxpayers. That would seem a little morelre

i

appropriate.'' 1t! 'Speaker Pierce: HHave a1l voted who wish? Have a11 voted who iiIvish? The Clerk vill take the record. 0n this Bill therej1

are 36 'aye' votes...oh, you want to explain your vote, j'!1Representative Stiehl

. . .the Lady from St. Claire, Rep- i

'

resentattve Stiehl.''

11 f , yî iStiehl: Would you please record me as. no . !f, ' v f 'speaker Pierce: Representative Sttehl votes no

. 0n this

Bill there are 36 'ayes' 77 'nos', 5 Voting 'Presentl, and the

Kill is declared lost.. ,House Bill 1580. The Clerk will read the Bil1.'l

Clerk Leone: HHouse Bill 1580. A Bill for an Act making l

appropriations to the Judicial Inquiry Board. Third f >1

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Reading of the Bill. !!Speaker Pierce: 'Qhe Gentleman from Dupage, Mr. Daniels.'l 1!l

Daaiels: HMr. Speaker: Ladies and Gentlemen of the House: 'jl

House Bill 1580 ts the Jucicial Inquiry Board appropriationli

in the amount of 235,900 dollars. It is a 6.8 percent !!

f.,dollars, approximatezincrease over last year. In terms o I1

ly 14,000 dollars, and I ask for your favorable vote.'' ;lISpeaker Pierce: I'Any further discussion? The question is: )i

Shall this Bi11...oop! The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. :

Lechovicz, is recognized.''

L e chowi c z : ''We 11 Mr . S p eà ke r'', ' és ar ma t t e'r' 'o 'f d ('5 ti r t e s y c a rf -wè '

have a comparison over last year? I'm sorry. I heard it

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was a 6 point...6 percent increase over last year. But,

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k e r P i e r c e : '' Th e G e n t 1 em' a n f r o m C o o k . . . '' .'

. : $. .y t)7 L r ':k q ' .è ' zi'( 'j t ' : ' '- ., ' : :.' . 'S p ea . . s. - . . .. . A ... - j.1 !1 ' ' . e . ' '-D a n i e l s : D u P a g e . . . ..

J . .. 'tc.z. ... c .. :- i... .a .'.. r. -.: - .,. r 1 .. f : .-: .IlS p eake r P i e r c e : 11 . . . ha s a g r e ed t o a nswer th e' q ii es.t ion') ?- ' .:Th'e - ' '..t' ' . . .'

!centleman from oupage.'' . II

lDaniels: 116.8 percent total increase. In the area of personal!

1. f) 'services

, $7,400; equipment, $5,100; and the operation of i1equipment

. $1,000. The total..zî !I'

.. !Lechowicz: HCould you teil us the number of people that are l

'

resently employed with . . . by this agency ? '' 1?' I

Daniels: HThere...thereîs an executive director to investiga- lt!

tors, an administrative assistant, and his secretary.îl j

Lechowicz: 'lAny new people contemplating...''. I11 fl . ' ' 1Daniels: No, Sir. j

:' jLechowicz: ''Thank you.

''

!' jf @Speaker Pierce: The Gentleman from Winnebago, Mr. Giorgi, is

1recognized.'' p '

Giorgi: ''Mr. Daniels, how many inquiries does...how many .

inquiries did they conduct last year?'f (!iDaniels: ''During the period of December, 1972, tq February, !

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19 7 9 , th e . . ..'' It;

Giorgi: ''No, no# no. Just last year. Just last year.'' !I

Daniels: ''Twenty-six complaints against twenty-five Judges.'' '. )

. . tGiorgi: ''Last year?'' !

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Daniels: ''No not last year.'' ji

Giorgi: ''Just this one last year where you expended 220,000 j. . l

tthousand dollars. How many inquiries did you conduct?'' l

Daniels: HI don't have the answer to just last year. I gave j. I

he total number.'' iyou t1

Gtorgi: ''You donft have the answer? This is...this is a '

budget from year to year. You don 't have the answer?'l !. ' j

11 .Speaker Pierce: Excuse me one second, Representative Giorgi.b

'

iWe have a blue ribbon Legislator here in the.hall...formér'? '

lLegislator...well, Iike.you and one of your colleagues. S

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I thought you'd want to know he's here. Regresentative l. . ' . ' . 4 ' j j r t ,. . )j........ ,.u. . - Jim Houghton . Representative Jim Houghton from: ' -.lI' ' i i n g s t o n C o u n t y > wh o I . . . I s h e i n t h e b a c k ? ' W e w i s h .y o uz ) 1 '' :, '. .. . L v . .

l* s t i 11 ha d yo ur r e s t aur an t o p en , J im . We s t i 11 li ke t o t , .! '..' '. . ,

j '' I .' stop there on the way home, andvnow...and now to anotheè'..j =. u..

I' lblue ribbon Legislator, the Gentleman from Winnebago, .Ii. Representative Giorgi to continue his cross-examinationz' i '1

lDaniels: f'The reason khat your question cannot be anéwered in 1

detatl is because there are ongoing investigations, and i:

, ' j. that s. why I answered it in the terms that I did. There ;l

are presently pending two complaints at the present timez'lf1Giorgi: ''Two complaints?'' Il

. . 'j' Daniels: ''There are a number of complaints. Now watt a secondk'lIThere are a number of complaints that are filed in excess )

of two hundred, but of those complaints that are filed, ,' j .

there are only two present pending right nov in the terms t. f

, of continuing and ongoing investikation.'l !

Giorgi: ''At least how mapy were instituted last year?'î 'ê1

', . fr !Daniels: I don t have the exact figure, but... ,

' ,, , . ,, . . iGiorgi: 0h, that s...

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Daniels: ''...in t:e. area of some one hundred or so.'' î;l

Giorgi: 'îYou mean you can't lustify a 220,000 thousand dollar i

expenditure by telling us how many complaints were in- i. 1

last year?'' ' 11stitutedj .

Daniels: ''I don't think tbat's relevant. I think the relevant!. $lissue is what action was taken and whether or not the 1

l' doing its job..a'' . @Board s

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G io r g i : '' Okay . '' g' j

'' and I think that's 'apparent...'' '' iDaniels: . . .. !

. 1Giorgi: ''A11 right.'' l'

. tDaniels: ''...from the fact that during the period of time '!

.

that I mentioned to you, Representative, that disciplinary:. )

action was taken against eighteen Judges and three com-

plaints were dismissed and two Judges resigned. Bùt, .' '' :'

durtng that period that 1' gave you those were the actions$

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' ' t o inve s t i g a t: e a l le g a t io ns , a nd tlt ey .''inve é t :L g a t: e..rf'h i n'g'é..,t Ar é'''' ' 1' '' :6 . ' v ' 'l

.rn.-.= .. . th a t ar e b ro u gh t t o th e i r a t t en t io n or t h a t t h ey . uncave r' lw'. ' ''v.,' . .c.:''.

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. G io r g i : ''Okay , th en wh a t d r ama t i c zd e c i s io n d i d ' th a t .Bo a r d mqk é :'. ..'cï: ' .'f

last year? 0ne dramatic decisionz'

Daniels: HI donît think it's a matter of what dramatic decision

d e '' .WaS ma .

Giorgi: MWe11y what insignificant decision then?''2

Daniels: 'Q don't know what you mean by what insignificant

decision.'' ':

Giorgi: HThat's right. That's exactly what I expected yom to

11say.

Speaker Pterce: ''All right. The...the Gentleman from Kane,

Mr. Waddelly is recognized from under the bafcony. The

Gentleman from Kane, Mr. Waddell. in the shadows.fl

Waddell: HWould t'he Sponsor yield? Are we accordeds in the

General Assembly, any kind of a report from 'this Body?u. .

Daniels: ''There is not an actual report issued in the terms of

reports that you receive on your desk quite regularly.

. There ts a total of cases as I just mentioned to you, but

no actual report. I mean no divulging of names or things

of that nature.'f

' Waddell: ''And no annual report?''

Daniels: 'Q t's an annual report in the terms of the dollars

spent, as I just described to you.l'

Waddell: HThatfs not a report. That just shows an expenditure

of money that we allocated without having anything come

back. Why the secrecy?'' . ,

Daniels: ''It's a Body held in confidentiality to begin with . '

It's the reason that it was set up that way because of the

nature of the complaints that are issued against city

Members of the Judiciary.''

Waddell: ''Then why are we funding'it?'' '' ' ' .:&'- . u.. . .t

Daniels: ''That's a decision you have to makey Representative.''

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Waddell: ''Fine. It'11 be 'nof.'' j!

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t . . ' S'p eaker . P ie r ce : '''rh e Gentleman f r om Co ok , Repr es en t at ive . . . e -- j .. ,.. .. ' .lJa f f e . '' ' . j.I

''Y s Mr. Speaker and Members of th@ House: I rise in . !,, .., p. . . Jaffe: e y jI

>: ' . .. , support of this appropriation. I think if you take a lj '

. 1look at the history of the Judicial Inquiry Board, theyîve.

lidone an excellent job, and I thtnk, as Representative!i

'

.Daniels has indicated. their appropriation is not a very ,

Il

large appropriation. It's $245*,000. I've seen us spend :. i

$245 000 for paper clips around here. I think the Judi- '9l

. ;cial Inquiry Board has done a good job: and I would vote :@

'ayeî for this appropriation.'' t. ' j

. 1, '!Speaker Pierce: The Gentleman from Marion, Mr. Friedrich, is ii

recognized.'' @

'Friedrich: '1Mr. Speaker, I attempted to cut this appropriation;

on Second Reading, but my comment at this point is never

have so few done so little for so much. The truth. of it

is that when they find a Judge in wrongdoing, they give

him the opportunity to retire and ride around on his fat

retirement income, and they don't even bother to turn the

evidence over to the Statefs Attorney. Talk about a' ,1 . trip-off; this is it.

Speaker Pierce: HThe Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Greiman.''

;speaker Pierce: ''AII right. The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. !

' Bull ock . '' k

Bullock: ''Mr. Speaker, I move t'he previous question.'' '

speaker Pierce: ''What did you say, sir? The Gentlenan from i

Cook has moved the previous question, and the question isy.

'Shall the previous question be put?' A11 those in' favor il

will say 'aye'. Opposed. And the previous questton

carries. The Gentleman from Dupage to close.''

. îDaniels: ''Mr. Speaker, I ask a favorable vote on this very

' small appropriation of only a 6.8 percent increase of an . '

agency that is set up through the Illinois Constitution.''

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Speaker Pierce: ''A11 right. The...the question is, Shall thisIr .-z..' B t1.l p as s ?.' . 'A1l 'tho's e in f avor will vo t e ' aye ' . Opp'os'ed , 1

I,2 ... . v ' nay f . H ave a1l vo t e d wla o w is h ? ilave a 11 vo t e d wh o Nz i sh ?. - .-

j j,. Che Gentleman from Peoriay Mr. Schraeder, to explain his '. I

1,, . I.. j . V.0 t e . 'I

. 1Schraeder: ''We11, Mr. Speaker, I probably won't change any i

votes. but for those wbo donft knov, and I'm speakiùg

primarily now to 'the Members of the Bar since there are

so many of them here and they have a drastic interest in

this. This is one of the two agencies that deal with

Members Of' the Bar and so forth that the Auditor General

said he couldn't get any iaformation on. If you read the

Auditor General report on this agency, he was dumbfounded.

He was shut out, and anytime that wyfve got a legislative

investigative power, ahd that's the Auditor General, that

can't get an audit of an agency, we#re in serious trouble,

aad I would say the least we ougbt to do is put this down

for today and make them come up with a report so ve know

what wefre talking about. Tbis is out of our c'ontrol. We

can't afford to pass this.'f

Speaker Pierce: ''Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who

wish? The Clerk will take...oh, the Gentleman from Will,

Mr. Leinenweber, ,to explain bis vote.''l

Leinenweber: ''We11, I know the motivation why a lot of you kt

're hurting the Judges or @àre votxng red. You thtnk you yI

' somethfng. Half the Judges in this state would love to li

see this outfit not get its àppropriation, because this is'l

the only cheek on a bad Judge. This is actually stupid ofI

you to vote a'gainst funding this agency unless you want tojI' '

get in league with tbe bad Judges. This is the only cheekj

on a Judge that we have in the State of Illinois that's

been set up. by the Constitution. Before the Constitution

of 1970 there never was any check, and you had a 1ot of

little Caesars' out there. They're now scared to death of

this outfit. A11 right, so they don't haven .they haven't

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ibrough: that many charges. Part of the reason is that the. .. . . x w v .x

' . . ' . '.. . Ju d g e s ' ar e 'b eha v; in g. '.mu ch b'e t t e r s i n c e th i s o u é f i t was i n I

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,existence. $ I would certaialy urge that you vote 'aye' on!, . j jI this. approprid'tton regardless of what reasons you may 1 have. tq your mind, parttcularly if you thtnk we shouldn't I

'

. ( 1 have bad JudRes out there abusina litiqants and abusing 2 --' --'' '-'' I ,! 1

. other people. 'lIspeaker Pierce: ''The Lady from Cook, Representative Willer, to,1

' 1.. er vo t e . '' 1explain.IWiller: ''Yes

, Mr...Mr. Speaker, in answer to the Centleman in

I -1back of me who said about the Auditor General, I have his i '. f1report in my hand, and his opinion is, îWe conducted this i

audit as required by tbe Illinois State Auditing Act. Thei! iI

Board has no locally held funds or locally administered ''.,111 here are no finan- '..federal or state funds. Consequently, t

1 -cial statements requirtng a financial audit leading to an

1opinion.' Nows what in the worlè is he talking about?! ' ,The Judicial Inquiry Board is certianly not tryfng to hide

1 ,, tanything itls doing about its finances.

lspeaker Pierce: ''Have a11 voted who wish? The Gentleman from

lAdams, Mr. Mcclain, you wish to explain your vote? Have ',. l -

a11 votéd who wish? The Clerk will take the record. The i. Gentleman wish to poll the absentees? A1l right. The '

i' jClerk will take a poll of the absentees. The Gentleman 1!

from Cook: Mr. Taylor, is recognized. For what purpose fI. ' j

do y o u r' i s e , S i r ? '' I. !

Taylor: ''Mr. Speaker, I rise for the purpose of an introduction.''

i ISpeaker Pierce: ''That's what we were a11 vaiting for.'' ;!1

1' W h a v e . . rf !T a y l o r : e . . !

' ' j

. Speaker Pierce: ''This is the perfect time to vote.l' !

k !iTaylor: ''...here from...south side of the City of Chicago the) ! I1

Sacred Heart Grammar School in the 30th District.represent-1 i

ed by Representative Dakson, Representative Balanoff, and

l :Representative Cob'linsu - The students are in the 'gallery

h r e '' ' 'e . .

r f a rt ..:019 : x i s 'r .. 'r E: o F I u u I s o l s:..* .

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Speaker Pierce: HAny other introductions? A1l right. Thel

C1 e r k Q'i 11 c a 1'1 ,:.th e ''ab s en t è'e s'. ?! ... IlClerk O'Brien: J'E.;..M .=.Barnes. Beatty.. Breslin. Capparelli.

Domito. Ebbesen. pEyell. sGarmis'a. Hanahan. Huff. Emil. ij

Jones. Klosak. 'Kozubowski. Laurino. McGrew. McMaster.;' j

lMolloy. O'Brien. Stearney. Taylor. Tuerk. VonBoeckman!I

so further.'' !I

''All right. The Gentleman from Dupage moves !speaker Pierce:I

to Postponed Consideratioù, does he? He doesn't. The l' 1

,4 1Gentleman from take, Mr. Matijevich. :

Matijevich: H...Because there was some comment made, 1et them

file a report, and I've got the Financial and Compliant's

audit before me.''

Speaker Pierce: f'Youlre ouc of order, John.''

Matijevich: HWe11, 1...':!

speaker Pierce: ''We...we're oa...we're on a Roll Call now.

We finished explan:tion of vote. Al1 right. The Gentle-

man may explain h'is vote, but you're eeally...yourre

really going beyond the bounds. The Ge...my County Chair-

,, (man is recognized.i

'Matijevich: ''Wei1 Mr. Speaker, 1...1 think that I can explaim9 .

my vote, because I heard right around me that some said,

'Let them bring in the report.' And, I1m saying to a11 of:I

o u h e r e t ha t they h ave ko mp 1 i e d . I ' v e go t th e F in an c ia 1 lyI

and Compliant's audit right before me, and I belfeve, as li

I heard in Appropriations Committee, this is a Constitu- lIitional agency. We've got to fund it, and since there's )l

nothing that they have to come forward with, therels ji

. ;nothing we can do but vote for it now. As Leinenweber

said, the Judges would rather not have it tn existence,', jj it ,1b u t w e v e g o t t o av e .

S peaker P i er c e : ''Th e Lady f rom Coo k , Mrs . Curr ie > f o r what

u rp o s e d o y o u r i s e ? '' .P

Cu rr ie : ''Thank yo u : Mr ; Sp eaker .' '1 ê.d ..like' t o chang e my vo te

o n t h e b a s i s R e p r e s en t a t i v e . Ma t t j ev i c h j us t o f f e r e d f r o m

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# t f r f yfp r e s e n t o ay e . '

S p e a k er P i e r c e : '' A1 1 t. r i gh t . .. F r (? m p :!k p zi e s en t 1 '. t o l.. ay. e ? . T! . 11

ie: ''With Representative.Giorgi,r.s.permission, ,lfm doing 1Currt 11 EL t '' . ' J ' . z - . - ' N . .. . . . Ln .: . ' . 7. r t ) .k u. I z : . . ,

Speaker Pierce: ''Swayed by the...by. the'Gentleman from Lake. 1. For what èeason does tHe Gentleman from Adams, Mr. Mcclaini

. 1Attorney Mcclain rtse?'' l

l' j

Mcclain: Hltlll never be Judge. For the .same reason I'd like 1' j

. , . , , ,, 1to Change my Vote from present to aye . 1î

,, . 1 ,Speaker Pierce: The Gentleman from Adams changes from present1

to 'aye'. For what reason doep the Lady from Cook, Mrs. ll

' Braun rise?'f tI

,, , iBraun: For the reasons statedv Mr. Speaker, I d like to lil

change my vote from fpreyent' to 'aye' 'r 1!

Speaker Pierce: ''Another one votes faye'. And the Gentleman :.

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#v lfrom Will, Mr . Van Duyne.

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Van Duyne: 'Qbank you, Mr. Speaker. I don't want to change .

my vote, but I think you were entirely right cutting offl

Matijevich, because he cut pe off yesterdayz'

Speaker Pierce: '1A1l right. The Lady from Lake...Lady from j. t

Lakey Mrs. Frederick, is recognized. For what purpose do

lou rise? '' . !7(

Fre.derick) l'Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, iI. !

I'd like to change my vote to laye'.'f ' I. f

Speaker Pierce: llMrs. Frederick votes laye'. The Lady from Il

cook, Mrs. Barnes. 'Ayef. Mrs. Barnes votes 'ayeî. I1t

A1l right. Theoclerk...the Gentleman...the Gentleman from!i!cook...we have Mr. Kornowicz, faye'. The Gentleman from t

. i, a y e , . , ' . (' Cooky Jesse White, $

!White: ''change my vote...l'd like to change my vote from l

. . . ) .:I ï

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# l fPresent to aye . .!

Speaker Pierce: ''Whtte votes 'aye'. Mr. Leverenz.'' .'

, 11 f f 1, , lLeverenz: Record me aye . .

. S p e a k er P i e.r c e : '' A11 r i gh t . '... Mr.s. . '.A1 ex a n d e r -r'vo t e s ' ' ay e f t '' '

VonBoeckman, 'ayeo ' The Clerk will take the Roll. What

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is the fiaal count, Mr. Clerk? 97 'ayes'; 52 fnos#...50

: ' no s ' '. Th e B i 11 h aving r e d é ivè d ft'EIi e C o-n'é't'i 8 u t i&ènall '! Majlo xi = . ,

i t y i s d e c l a r e d p a s s e d . H o us e .' B i 11 . 1 5 8 8 ., '' rl'h e ''C 1'e rk ' &z i 1.1 1

r e a d t h e B i 11 . ' l . , - :'., . . ;' .? .i

' B r f e n : '1Ho us e B i 11 1 5 8 8 . .' A B i 11 '.' f o r . a n Cd Ac t '-t o' .'amen d . lC l e r k 0l

. iions of an Act in relation to airport authorities. lSect

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Third Readiqg of the Bi11.'' jI

''The Clerk...or the Chair recognizes the Lady 1Speaker Pierce:1l

from St. Clair, Mrs. Younge, on House Bill 1588.'f li

lî h k ou, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. ThelYounge: T an y1!

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purpose of this Bill is to prevent municipal airport I1$authorities from preventing taxicabs from picking up jl

passenjers that have held them dovn or have requested thei:!servicesy and the..oand'.the further purpqse of the Bill isft

to require tbe municipal airport authorities to treat

equally each taxicab company in reference to the charge of

monthly ratès or 4 per capità flat rate for parking there,

apd the Bill imposes a penalty of not less than $200 nor

more than $500 if the Bill is violated, and I ask for your

support on this matter.''

Speaker Pierce: 1'A11 right. The Gentleman from Sangamon, Mr.

l lJones, is recognized.'

Jones: HMr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I p. :

hate to oppose the Sponsoruof the Bi11, because she spon-!Isors a 1ot of fine legislation, but as a former Commis- .p'1Isioner of the Springfield Airport Authority, when we firstj!

started out, ve left the...the cab business open to any-il

body that wanted to come out. So what happened? 0n one ill

flight there's a dozen cabs; the next flight nobody showed!lI

up> so you h:d to have a franchise, and tbere's no way Il

that this can work unless you have a franchise for the

taxicabs at a given airport, and I...and I thereby opposei

thi's Bill . '' '

S p e ake r P i er c e : ''Th e Gen t'l ezan f rom' B o n d , Mr'. . S'lap'e'. ff '' '' -

Slape : 'fThank you : Mr . Speaker . As many o f yo u may rememb er ,

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. jI had a duplicate Bill similar to Wyvetter Younge has 11

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tha t wh en a mun i c i p al i ty 1 i c en s e s a c ab compbany , a nB! :a' 'c ab-l! ..'. .' .*l

ts al1 the regulatiôns of that' municipalityy .!company meei1

'. :I. t: ',, s ..- ::1 - . . .then for an airport authority to create a monopoly, .lljust out of the question, and I would ask for us a11 to. (1help Mrs. Younge and get this legislation passed. Thank j1

11 1you. .

it, iSpeaker Pierce: The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Mabars is recog-;

. jn i z e d . '' i

. 1''Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of thelMahar:

iHouse. I rise in opposition to this Bi11. Nok this is a. 1

. 1'' Bill ia which, if it were passed and signed into law, ll

would allow every individual taxi driver to hage access 1i ji

to any of the major airports throughout the State of !. :

Illinois. Now the airports now have the power to regulateJ

a1l of their commercial traffic by ordinance, they have '

police powers, and they donft...they.,..you have eo operatel

by permit. They have to have some semblance of order to '

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1control the rights of the customers that enter. It s un- !

fortunate that this one taxicab firm in Springfièld, which

has only one cab. can't comply. But, in deferencev'to.'pro-!

viding the service that the airport requires to meet the' . j' Jpassengers, they have to have more than one cab: and they ',

Ehave to have licenses to firms that can give them the l

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service, and I think they should maintain the right to Il

license and permit the operation of cabs in and out of !ll

the airport, because if you donRt, you'll have problems ;i .

' tsimilar to this in the City of Chicago, and I don't think 2(

o ' llar e Field wants t.0 g0 tbrough this type of thing. n ere have. 1t .:e

been many cases in this area in which the courts have '. !.

ruled in favor of the airports on this very tssue, and I' j

would urge that we oppose this Bi1l.'' ï' (' ' Sp eaker P i erc e : ''The Lady f rom S t . Cl air t o clo's e . '' ' '' ' ' ' ' '.'- '' '

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Younge: 'Q t would be unfair...it is unfair for the airport

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authority to bar individual taxicabs f rom p tcking up

- .'' .' i pas s en gers wh en th e' pas s enger h as h ai l ed a cab . Th e'' p; i'n't ' * '. ''t$

. ' of this Bill is that when you have cabs...taxicabs that' -Il'

. , jare going out to the airport and are therey. and they are. 1

t' on a public street, a person should have a right to hail.'.''i

!!that taxi or request t:e services of that taxi and be able'i!

to ride back into town at that...on that taxicab. and for !'

jthe...an airport authority to deny an individual duly 21

1licensed taxicab the right to pick up a passenger on al!lpublic street at the airport is unfair and is prohibitive

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Bill ought to be passed. The Bill isiand, therefore, thisl

very carefully drawn to make certain that the fees that 1i1' are requested by the airport authority be equal and the ;;

same for every taxicab. The...these cabs are duly licensed,i

and they should have an opportunity when they take custom-:

ers to the airport to pick up customers there. That's:?

only fair and just, and I ask for your favorable consider-

ation of this Bi11.''

Speaker Pierce: HAII right. The question is, 'Shall this Bil1,

1pass?' A11 those in favor will vote 'aye'. Opposed, :' j

'nay'. For wbat reason does the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. '

Taylor, rise? No, he doesnVt.î' l1 . j

h 1 1Taylor: Mr. Speaker, I rise to explain my vote. I rise in 'l

favor of House Bill 1588. I know the problem that we are jl

ith gas throughout.the country. You a11 ihaving today w

iwould not want to see a cab driver deadhead fifteen or Il'

, u uappen;twenty miles, and that s just wbat would appen.

to once driven a cab in Chicago. I know this does not !1y '

apply to O Hare Airport, but when a cab driver buys his j@

license from a municipality, I'm certain that he should ë!

;be able to use it the way vhatever is necessary as long as!

he's paying the fee for his license. Many, many times

came al1 the way fron the south side to OfHare Airport,

- and there were persons right there that I couldfve'ridden

back home and had gotten close to home. You could not do

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g . . . y , . . (j( I I- . supporte . . '

' '' Speaker Pierce: ''The Gentleman from Will, Mr. Leinenweber, is' j

' .': ' D + - r ec o gn i z e d t o exp la i n h i s vo t e . '' ' 1

!' jLeiaenweber: ''If anybody's ever been stuck out at an airportil

when you canêt find a cab, I think you probably ought to $l

be voting green oa this. I can't imagine why anybody !:' (would oppose this good, free market Bi11. Everybody knowsil

the free market is the best way to get services and'the !i

. Ibest possible services for your dollar. Now, the Lady has!

jv ia Bill which I can be happy to support. It isn t that I i

Ioften haven't been on her side ia many Bills, but this is i '

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a good one. This...everybody knows how tfghtly confined

the taxicab business is. ïf you don't have...if you don't!.

y y . ouknow someone or if you don t have a 1ot o money, y

can'c get a license. Well, let's open up the matket.''

: speaker Pierce: ''Have a11 voted gho wish? The Clerk will take

I i:e record. on this Bizl there are l25 'ayes . , 12 votzngt! '! 'ao' 4 voting 'presentl. The Bill having received the

Constitutional Majority is declared passqd. House Bill)

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. clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 1655. A Bill for an Act to lake an'11

. . !appropriation for the ordinary and contingent expense of !

. 9the Industrial Pollution Control Finance Authority. Third

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Reading of the Bi11.H 3II

speaker Pierce: ''The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Birkinbine.'' Ji

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. 1Birkinbine: HThank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies aad Gentlemen of l

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the House. The requested appropriation for the Illinois 'i' (

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Industrial Pollution Control Financing Authority is .'! j!

106,100 dollars. This is an increase of 25,400 dollars. :

of that increase, 5,500 dollars goes toward hiring a part .I

time auditor; 19,000 dollars goes toward carrying out one

' ' ' ' ' o' f ' ' t 14 e Tr e c o mme n d a t i o n s o f t h e t a s k f o r c e '. . . th e Co s t . .': . '-- ê

Cost Control Task Force, specifically that of publicizing:

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Ithe small business program of this autàority. To explafn ll

' 7 ' èpo l 1ut i'on con t ro lr eq uipment tha t b us ines s es a re f o rc ed t o

in 14 e s tandards s et up b y th e Environmen ta 1 l' b uy t o . e e t; !: i

IProtection Agency in the state. Many times companies are 1

1unable to get funding for this. This helps provide it. j1!The companies pay back the cost of the bonds

. The l

companies also pay a fee to tbe authority. The authority 11

returns more money to the state than it has taken. In ll

past years when the appropriation has been 80,000 dollars,t

theyfve returned 225,000 dollars to the state. This year

on...on an appropriation of 106,000 dollars they expect to

be able to return about 300,000 dollars to the state.''

Speaker Pierce: ''The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Collins, is

recognized. 0b, okay. No further...any further dijcussion?

f 1 j. ;1he question iss Shall this Bill Pass? A11 those n

favor wfll vote 'aye'. Opposed will vote 'nayê. Pierce,

'aye'. Have a11 voted who wish? The...the Clerk will

take the record. 0n this Bill there are 130 fayeê votes,

6 înay' votes, 1 voting 'present'. The Bill having re-

ceived the Constitutioaal Majority is hereby declared

passed. House Bill 1767. The Chaira..it's Clerk willt

read the Bi11. 1767.:' i

clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 1767. A Bill for an Act to amend !l

he Illino is Lo ca1 . . oLocal t ibrary Act . Th ird Reading ltll

o f the. Bill . '' )''Representative Yourell.'' lspeaker Flinn: j

!Yourell: HThank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Geptlemen of the k

' tHouse. House Bill 1767 establishes a procedùre whereby $

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the corporate authorities of a citys village, or incor- t$

d town .ay by Board Re--z-sso- di-esuabïzsh - p-bzt.porate$

library. Currentlyà there is no statutory provision for ii

dissolution of city libraries. Last year we approved ;

' House Bi11 302'.:.3002 which pertained to township libraries

to do that very same thing but omitted the necessary!

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provisions for city, vtllage, incorporated town libraries.. : . . a. , . . . , jjTééf'é the reX:öh f6P iEè idtkodudtion of House Bill 1767.

ISpeake: Flinn: ''Ahy''ofùfEEèr:xdiédussién'? If not, the question 1

is, 'Shall Hoûàe Bi11'!1747 pas's?' .Al1 those in favor 1'aye'. t:èsé''opposéd vote 'no'. Have a11 voted who i.

vote Iwish? Have a11 voted who wish? The Clerk will take the j

Id 0n this question there are 121 voting 'ayef 27 !recor . , !'

jvoting 'no', and 1 voting 'preseatî. The Bill having !

l1received the Constitutional Majority is hereby declared 11

assed. House Bill 1769.'' IPl1

clerk OfBrien: ''House Bill 1769. A Bill for an Act to amend 'lI

Sections of the llliaois Library System Act. Third Read-

ing of the Bil1.''

speaker Flinn: ''Representative Yourell.''

Yourell: ''Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of t.he Houae,

House Bill 1769 makes a technical change in the Library

Systems Act. The definition of a cooperative library

system and a consolidated library system have been changed')

from a membership of two or more public libraries to ten

or more public libraries. The rationale for this technical1

change is to insure that the present eighteen librar:

systems remain totally intact without any shtfting bound-

aries Ihis Bill does not, in any way, alter the require-.. - i

iment that every system contai: a mintmum of 150,000 in- '. thabitants or an area of not less thaa 4,000 square miles. ?l

lhis Bill is also Co sponsored by Repres entat ive Ralph lT

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Dunn and' is strongly supported by the Illinois State '

Library, their State Advisory Council, and the Illiaois

Library Association, and T ask for a favorable Roll Call

oa House Bill 1769.91

Speaker Flinn: MRepresentatfve Mugalian ts recognfzed.''

Mugalian: ''Thank you. Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield?ll

speaker Flinn: 'îHe indicates he vi11.''

Mugaliah: ''Are th'ere àny libra*y systems' now that have fewer

than een members?''

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-* z / j rlYourell: ''Yes, that's the reason for the Bil1.'$

Mu ga li an : ' ''We 11 s .' wha't ' . Qo ul d . th/zs' cd o' :'t.o ..th'o s'e' -s.y.s't em s .tha t.' ztow ' '

h av e le s s th an t e n ? .Wo u'ld, ...iYJ t dnf y'sqlvle , t.h eml' '' . '

Yo ur e 11 : ''No , i t wo u 1d. no t d.i s s.orlM.q.'. '? t.h em... ''k 4 r ' .1

'lWha t wo u l d i t. .do t o.' ...4h'e.m ? 'î!. , . . . .

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Yourell: ''It wouldnêz do anything to them. It would change lIlthe membership of two or more public libraries to ten or I' 1

more public libraries, and this would...that...all this I' ii

lwould do was to make for a cooperative library system and !. l

't not way...in 1a consolidated ltbrary system. It doesa i1

any way change the boundaries nor the population require- !1

,, iment. 1

iMuaalian: 'ïI understand thàt, Bus, but does...youVre spying '' ''''' ' '' j'

jthat they'll now have to have at least ten members to be

a system rather than two, and you said there are some)

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. systems now that have fewer than ten. Does this...what .

does this do to those...the systems that now have fewerl'

. than ten members?'' . .

.. tYourell: ''1...1 think, perhaps, Ralph 'Dunn or Representative

Aadersoa could answer that.'' . ';

speaker Flinn: I'I think Representative Conti wanted the floor !l

just for a moment. Could we interrupt this just a secondr

Representattve Conti.'' t. I

''Mr Speaker aùdtiLadies and Gentlemen of the House, at :conti: . k

lthis time of the year it is rather difficult. They only !i

allow the students up there for a few minutes, and I hate !1

'to interrupt when...especially in the middle of à meeting i' I

like this, but we do have the efghth grade class from ('

!Sales.. .scales Mound, Illinois, the 35th District, rep- tl

. resented by Representative Nord Swanstrom, Harlan Rigney, t1

next to him, and Dick Mulcahey, who sits over here on this'

side. Up there. Thank you, and I'm sorry for the inter- :

ruption.'' .- i

. Speaker Flinn: HRepresentative Anderson to''answer.'the questionk'

' Mugalian's question.''

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nderson: HYesy Representative Mugalian, this particular Bill I-

j1 . . , - . .: ;. x . . . . . y.., . . . : . . . .has .'no th ing to do wi th libkary s ys't éms .I; * 'rhék 6z iarè é'i ght è ed'll1ib r a ry s y s t ems wi th in tli e ' s t'à t e . 'Thlis''. h .'#à 5 t o'Lfdo 'vi th.' .a' .l1

. , . -j.é,. to - . lcoop era t ive libr ary sy s tj em wher e. 1ib rarqièés ''.c'ari.. j oI ;

1' . . . . . . (e t 1't e r . . . '' ' . . . . ', î . ,. xz , . .B ' . I

Mugalian: ''A1l right, now...H . . i11 '

,, i 1, lAnderson:' .. .as cooperat ves. , . 1j' . IjM

ugalian: A11 right, then I amend the question to ask if !!ithere are any such associations

. . .cooperative associationsll

- ; yrthat have fewer than ten members? And what happens to them?

. IHI know of none that has fewer tban ten' members. 1Anderson:

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Apparently this is updating the law.M ti

''You're telling ne right now that if this becomes tMugalian:. !

' llaw, it will not affect any existing cooperative systems?'''

iAnderson: ''Not to my knowledge. No, Sir. This is just a !

technical change.'' ';'

IMugal ian : ''Okay . '' ,

(' speaker Flinn: ''Representative Ewing. Ewing.f' j'

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Ewing:' ''I wonder if the Sponsor would yield for a question?''

Speaker Flinn: ''He indicates he wi11.'' ;l

Ewing: ''If this is just a technical change, why are we reducing

the number or increasing the number from two to ten? I ;'

thought you said there were some that had two, and Rep- '. i

'resentative Anderson just indicated that wasn't the casevb'ii

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Yourell: ''Wel1, obviously I was in error, and Representative f.' $

IAnderson is corredt. May I say this to you, Represènta+ ti

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!:Ewing: ''We11, be...he said he...he Jidnht know. He just h$

dered. I*m sorry go aheadz' 'won , )

Yourell: ''May I suggest to you this? There are three types of'li

library systems presently in Illinois. A cooperative

system, where two or more libraries enter into a written

agreement to provide services on a cooperative basis.

Then the r'e ' s ' a co ns olida t ed'' sys t em wh er e' two''''o r mo r e ' ' ' .'' - '' ' '# . '

join to form a single library, and, C., a libr4ry in a

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1city of over five hundred thou...thoûsand population. This

I1. B il l wo u1d chan g e th a t s o th a t: o t h er .'1 ib r ar.i es ..co u.1.d...r 1,ô. .i.nez...I..'' ... ?. ,.'

Iin a c o o p e r a t iv e e f f o r t w i th o u t ch an g i n g a g a i n t h e ë p o pt! = . t..j ' .e. r, .la t io n o f th a t d i s t r i c t n o r t h e s q uar e mi le s o f th e ...d'i s = l .. urjt. .: f

j 't r i c t. . '' !

fEwing: 'Qut would we...yould still have to have ten communitiel?

i1, IIs there a savings to the taxpayers in this?

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',I have no tdea . '' iYourell : !!

'' i i ate two libraries forming'Ewing: Well, why do we want to el m nI

here? Why don't...why don't we give them the choice from i

itwo to ten? Why are we going to raise it to ten? I donft'i

Iunderstand the reason for the Bi1l.'' 1

1''zs that a question?'' lYourell: 1

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Yourell: ''We11, a11 1 caa tell you is what I've already toldi

you before. It's thought that with.add...with making it

a ten library...ten membership of ten that they would have'

better cooperation between the libraries rather than two.'l'l

speaker Flinn: ''Representative Schraeder.'' h

Schraeder: ''Wel1, Mr. Speaker, I don't want to oppose the il

measure, but I have some doubts about the...vhat it does,iland...and 1*11 just ask one questton. If my district is

nov involved in this, is there a grandfather's clause?

I'm...I'm not sure what...what happens.''

Speaker Flinn: HRepresentative Yourell.''

Yourell: ''I don't have the answer to that question.''

schraeder: ''Thaak you.'f

speaker Flinn: ''Representative Mcclain.''

Mcclain: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker, will the Gentleman yiéld?''

speaker Flinn: 'fHe indicate's he wi1l.''

Mcclain: ''Mr. Yourell, wouldnît'...withoùt'.this..Bill wouldn't

ten systems be able to form anyway and make it a coopera-

tive system? The present 1aw requires two or more. It

doesn't prohibit ten from joining; right?'' .$h

Yourell: ''No again...''

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' Mcclain: ''So a11 youlre...all you're doing is raising the

L ' . . .' J :e. vi --t ...:.minimum. Is 'that correctz'' ' '

Yourell: ''That is correct.'f

Mcclain: ''Is there some s'ort of formula from the State' df I:

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Illiaois on reimbursement to state ltbrary systems for i

lcooperative systems?'' 9!lY

ourell: ''That's correct.'' 'IHokay. Sos this...then this is the meat of tt, isn'tiMcclain:

iit? If you have four systems that now form into a cooperar

lltive system

, and now we require ten, if for those school '

. . .or those library systems are to receive those state

dollars, those four communities are going to have to join

with larger communities to form a cooperative in order to

receive state dollars, or they're gotng to lose that

cooperative formula from the State Library System. Is

that correct?''

Yourell: 'flhat's how I read the Bi1l.''

$ ', n. speaker Flinn: Representative Yourell to close.

' Mcclain: ''Well...''

Speaker Flinn: nWhoop! I...I'm sorry. The Lady from Peoria..

Mcclain: 'Y peaker...''i

,, . i ognized. oh, jspeaker Flinn: ...Representative Sumner, s rec!

werenft...weren't you done, Representative Mcclain?l' ii!Mcclain: ''0h I didn't tbink I was.'' l1

speaker Flinn: ''We11 I'm sorry. 1...1 wasn#t..zl l' j.1

M Cl ain : ''Jus t give me a s econd . '' 'c jI

Speaker Flinn: ''...rea11y watching whatfs going on.'l l. t

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Mcclain: nIf you'd just give me a second, Mr. Speaker.'' 1!I

S ker Flinn: HI guess I'm in a bigger hurry than most peoplelpea. l

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lMcclain: NWe11...and I can respect that. I guess my fear is 1

. iand I've read the Democratic staff analysis, but 'for

those of you that haven't paid much attention to the Bill,

. . ' I . ' ' .tbere are three kinds. of systems. We have one that s a

cooperative system, one's a consolidated system, and one

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G E N E R A L A S S E M B L YSYA.TC OF ILLINOIS

Ho kl s e 1 F R E P R ES E N T'A Ti V E s

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) ') - /- . - tal.

syoo em Tcr-.papplations over 500,000. what this Btll would

. z ' J i 5.i,v .- . .. ' .. - .. . r e'qu i r e i s f o r y o ur cons o li d a t e d s y s t ems t h a t h ave l es s '

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' !7: ': ' ,- '' . : . z , 't h an t en c o mm u n i t i e s f o rm i n g t h a t c o o p e r a t i ve s y s t em ,' j

- Q .'' v.' 7 . weere going to mandate that they form into other eoopera-' tive systems SO at least there are ten communities in 'i

Iorder to receive this formula of state dollars from the i

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v state Ltbrary System. In other words, it's a mandated !

Iconsolidation for libryry systemss normally for small !i

h b rbs ia lcommunities or small systems downstate and t e su u

Iokder to receive this formula from State Library Systems. :I

So, it's up to you whether or not you want to be in favor lE

. lof this mandated consolidation of your local library systevs.'f

ISpeaker Flian: 'fRepresentative Sumner is recognized.

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Sumner: HThaàk you, Mr. Speaker. It seens to me there is an T!j 'awful 1ot of unanswered questions in this Bill, and I $i1bèlieve for this reason we should vote înoR.'' i

. . 1Speaker Flinn: ''Representative Yourell to close.'' '

Yourell: f'Wel1, I didn't kaow that this Bill would engenderI

such discussion, because a11 it does is make a technical

change tn the three systems. There are three types of '. i

library systems in Illtnois that you've heard explained onl

i A tive system where t<o or more 'tw0 Occas ons. coopera >. i

' libraries enter into a written agreement to Provide ser- 1

l1vices; a consolidated system, where two or more join to !

. )form a single library; and a library in a city of over 1

!500,000 population. This Bill would change the first j

1cooperative system, the second cooperative system to con- !

IIsist of ten libraries rather than two. This Bill is i

. . !supported by the Illinois State Library, ahd its. Advisory l

1!Committée, and the Illinois Library Association: and I llask for a favorable Roll Ca11.'1 l1

,, , f 'Speaker Flinn: The question is, Shall House Bill 1769 pass?. l

. I j iA11 those in favor vote laye' and those opposed vote no .i

' ' - While the Board is open, the press box is...has asked '

that I announce that. the gridiron tickets are on sale,

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and there are'mot many left. Representative Daniels to 1- '

,! l. .: ' e xpkla in his' vo t e .:

Dan.ieels : ..' '' I wo n d e r .' i'f we co u ld h ave an exp 1an a t i o n o f t h e c o s t' j

I'l'lvof'the. gridiron tickets this year over last year: and'

j' Iwhere do the funds go and where'd they come from?'' l1

, 1Speaker Flinn: 'Have al1 voted who wish? Representative Ralphih

Dunn to explain his vote.'' Ili

Dunn: 'Qhank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. I'd urge;t

, f , la few more aye votes on this. This is a good Bi11. It s

1Ih t#s recommended by the Illinois State Library lone t a

l1A

ssociation. It's sponsored by Representative Yourell: !' r

Iand I'm a Cosponsor of the Bill: and I'd urge enough 'aye't1

. lvotes so we#ll have no trouble with helping our libraries.l

lIThaak you.'' lI,f 1

Speaker Flinn: Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who '

wiYh? The Clerk will take the record. on this question

there 110 voting îaye' 36 voting 'nay', and 7 voting

'present', and this Bill having received the Constitutional

Majority is hereby declared passed. Representative

Schraeder, for what purpose do you arise?''

Schraeder: HWe11, Mr. Speaker, I would like permission of the11

House to change my vote on House Bill 1767.'' l!1

speaker Flinn: ''You'l1 have to come down and sign a b1ip.''

Schraeder: ''I want to change it...''

Speaker Flinn: t'Wedve got a new rule on that.''

schraeder: ''Tbank you.''

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Speaker Flinn: nzouse-Bill 1771.1', , . . . .; yy : ., : 4.ar . . . . ( .cleri b'Brien: Hôuàk éill 1771. A Bill for an Act to amend

' secttoùirô'ffthè. L/lalC'L'ib/ar'y àdt and the Public Library': . q - . .Di s t ri.c t Ac t''.' : t'll:prd 7 Réàd ing o f t he Bi 11 . ''

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Speaker Flinn: ''Re/késeztative'Yourell.''

Yourell: HThank you Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the' House. House Bill 1771 is clarification of existing

' working caàh fund statutes that we approved in 19 t

legislative session. Representative McMasterîs and I

sponsored House Bill 603 which alloved a11 of the 577

public libraries to levy .05Z for any four year period

for the purpose of establishing a working cash fund.

Mouse Bill 1771 clartfies the intent of the legislation

approved by Governor Thompson two years ago.. The two

clarifications contained in the Bill are the balance

in the libraries working cash fund shall not at any

time be allowed to exceed .2Z which represents the

.05Z levy for any four years. The library board

may by Resolution abolish their working cash fund aad

transfer the balance including any interest that is

accrue to the General tibrary Fund at the close of the

year. This is the same language and authority that our'

school districts in Illinois have and we're now makiag

it applicable to the public library. Under no circum- '

stances does this Bill increase or raise the limit of

working cash funds of libraries which was incorrectly

stated in the synopsis on the Bi11. I ask for a

favorable Roll Call on Rouse Bill 1771.'6

Speaker Flinn: ''Representative B1u... Bluthardt.l'

Bluthardt: ''Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. You

recall last session we wrestled with this problem a:

it affected community colleges and in that instance we

insisted on putting an amendment on the Bill that would

' ' require a referendum whenkvér a working cash fund was

abolished. It seems to me quite obvious that when we

allow units of government to have a working cash fund.0--..x, +'rA ; lJ'' . .

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to levy a 2Z tax to create that working cash fund

then abolish afiér cplllct'lkj è%e taxès anà issuing

bonds, abolishing thatc'èorking dashvfûùd'and'transmitting

the money over to t:e èokj-orltèrdùnd J: whatever other.

' J. ' .fund they want to transfl*'ît to then turn around the

following month of the following year and re-establish

it, that is a hidden tax. Thât is an additional tax

on the people and it seems to me that if we're going

to allow the abolition of working cash funds, then we

should require a referendum in order to re-instate

that working cash fund ànd I oppose the Bill becau-se of

the provision that provides for the abolition of the

wcrking cash fund and the recreation thereafter and the

levying of taxes to establish that working cash fund. '

I think it's wrong and I think it's an addit'ional taxes.

Ihe people ought to kaow about it aad they have an

opportunity to vote on that question.l'

Speaker Flinn: ''We11 Representative Yourell for what purpose

do you arise?''

Yourell-: ''Yes, I would like with the permission of the .chair

to address that question.'' '

Speaker Flinn: ''We1l wait till you close. We've got someone

else coming here. Representative Walsh is recognized.''1.

Walsh: HWe11 Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the

House. I have the greatest respect for the sponsor of

this Bill and I realize that he is sponsoring it as

out of respect for the Liérary Association which is

represented down here by High Tax Hinkle. I think he

will acknowledge that high tax is the real sponsor of

this Bfl1. Now what it, what i't does is just abominable.

By 400: it increases the library boards permission vith-

out referendum to tax. Ia addition to that, it permit's .

them to do this once a yearlsince it permits them to

transfer the working cash fùnd into'any other' fund +at

the board may have. This is terrfble Mr. Speaker. This

is even worse than the last Bill that Re resentative;' srz: Q ...'y;. % c G E N E R A L A S S E 5 I B L Y 5 - 1 8 - 7 9. ! ; P?Rm t q .1 . *. 7 r fkjg' . M . l s '' #' 'r '' O *' ' u' k- ' '' O ' *

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Yourell had whi ch was indeed a tax without ref erendum

an d I u r g e yo u t o d e f e a t t hi s B i 11 xvd'. ap o 1+ g i'z e .4,0

high tax for doing it.'' 7:.

S p e a k e r F li n n : '' Re p r e s en y: a t i v e Y o ur e 1.1 t o .. c lo s': .. '$

Y o u r e 1 1 : '' Th ank y o u Mr . S p e ak e r . I w o u ld '.1 f k e' t o a d d r e s s

the question that was brought to the House attention

by Representative Bluthardt and in a less complimentary

vay by Representative Walsh. To answer Representative

Bluthardtîs inquiry. I have talked with t:e Tax Payer's

Fèderation and they are preparing an amendment to be

placed on this Bill in ëe Senate Committee that would

provide for a referendum sùch as Representative Bluthardt

suggested plus the fact that the working cash funds

cannot be abolished each aùd every year. And with that

I know that you understand with al1 of the problems

we had with moving Bills back and forth from Senate...

from Third to Second and the workload of this House

that that amendment will be placed on G e Btll in the

Senate Committee and if aot then I will table the Bi11.

I ask for a favorable Roll Call on House Bill 1771.:1

Speaker Flinn: ''Tbe question is shall House Bi11 1771 pass?

Al1 those in favor vote aye and those oppose vote nay.

Have al1 voted who wish? Have al1 voted who wish?

0ur target for adjourning is about 4:00 p.m.. There

are a number of people who've asked and thatls vhat

we're shooting at. We're trying, trying to mo.ve a few

more Bills in the meantime. IRave a11 voted who wish?

Clerk... The Clerk will take the record. Representative

Yourell. The gentleman from Cook, Representative Yourell

has requested a poll of the absentees. Representative

Walsh for what purpose do you arfse?''

Walsh: nWell Mr. Speaker, I'm going to request a verification

if this sho'uld reach 89 votes and I don't believe that

there are 89 people in this chamber that are wil'ling to

vote for thlszBill. So why doesn't the gentleman put it

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Speaker Flinn: 'fYou have a perfect right to do so sir but

: . .. . r ! c - N j w . ,.I have no other course but to recognize the gentl//ad .s .

right to poll the absentees. The Clerk will polb t'Ye: ', I - ' . .. . . .

'a b s e n t e e s . . : . ' - . . C

1 k O'Brien: HAbramson. E.M. Barnes. Beatty. 'Bresli'nxC er .

Christensen. Daniels. Ebbesen. Woodyard. E/ton.

Hoffman. Huff. Kane. Katz. Kempiners.'l

Speàker Flinn: îîKempiners no.''

Clerk OtBrien: ''Kent. Koiubowski. Mautino. MeMaster.

Meyer. Molloy. Mugalian. Oblinger. Polk.''

Speaker Flinn: 'fpolk aye.'b

Clerk o'Brien: MRichmond.'f

Speaker Flinn: ''Richmond aye.'f

Clerk O'Brien: nRobbins. Stearney. E.G. Steele. Tuerk.

Van H

Speàker Flina: HTuerk no.''

Clerk O'Brien: ''Van Duyne. VonBoeckman.''

Speaker Flinn: nVan Duyne aye.''

Clerk O'Brien: ''Van Duyne aye?''

Speaker Flinn: HYes.''

Clerk o'Brien: ''VonBoeckman. Willer. J.J. Wolf. And Mr.

Speaker.'f

Speaker Flinn: ''Doug Huff aye. Representative Bluthardt for

what purpose do you arise?''

Bluthardt: 1'Mr. Speaker, I know itls against t:e rules to

talk twice on the same Bill but I would ask leave

to just say this. That I'm the one who raised the

guestion and I'm perfectly willing to accept Bus Yourell'

word that if this passed it goes into the Senate. He

vill put the amendment on that will require a front-door

referendum and thatês perfectly alright with me. I think

no one should fear the right of the public to vote upon

an issue and as long as the public has thati:right then

this Bills is acceptable Eo me and'it-oukit Yo b'e âdc'epfrable to most of us and I would urge those who were

swa ed to vote red to ta e Bus ' w d a.+... cu' G E N E R A j- A s s E M B L Yi' CJ'*. ' t ? D7-- ' . 5 - 1 8 - 7 9,. . , . z . y .i' :% r ' J. rajr. < , z s 'r JK 'r E o y- , u u I r4 o I s

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. and Reilly, 'aye'. Winchester, 'ayel. Eallstrom, layef. '!- -

I .. E. G. Steele, 'ayef. Campbell, 'ayeê. Mahar...Campbe11..:.: ,

l. Mahar: îaye'. I'm trying to go slow enough that the Clerkk.

lcan keep up with us. I know...l recognize you. Deuster, !. I

ïayet. Kempiners, laye'. 'Grossi, 'aye'. oblinger, 'ayefllPiel, 'aye'. slape: 'aye'. Rea. 'aye'. Schoeberlein,l

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laye'. Do you want to dump the Roll Call? I think it'd !I

be faster than the Clerk counttng them a11.î' li

' B ten : ''Dump :i.t ? '' ' lc 1 e r k 0 r. j

Speaker Flinn: ''Dump the Roll Call. Let's go again. A11 thosè'

)in favor of passing House Bill 1771 vote 'ayqf and those i.

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opposed vote fno'. Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 ;l1

. voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. 0n this1

question there are l13 voting 'ayel, 35 voting 'no', andl'

!2 voting 'presento The Bill having received the Consti-2 .

tutional Majority is hereby declared passed. Representa-p

tve Yourell . '' lt' j

Yourell: ''Just to say thank you to Representative Bluthardt,i

and he and a11 the others have my word that if this Bill: l;

in the Senate Committee, does not take the Amendment, I

then the Btll will be tabled in that Committee, and I do j'

jth ank yo u . '.f i

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speaker Flinn: nHouse Bill 1852.1' iI

clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 1852. A Bill for an Act to amend il

the Illinois Librqry Sybtem Act. Third Reading of the iIIB i l 1 . '' I

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jSpeaker Flinn: HRepresentative Sandquistz' 1

l' )sandquist: ''Yes, Mr'. speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the )l

House: I'd like leave of. tbe House to consider 1852 along ?l!

with 1853 and 1854, which are also on Third Readings it's 'i

kage. I thtnk we would save time of ia11 part of one pac)

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speaker Flinn: ''Does the Gentleman have leave? Hearing no'

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1..2.. , Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 1853. A Bill for an Act making ! 'l1'

. . ' '. appropriations to the Secretary of State. Third Readinq 1 '. '' ''''' 1

I.. : of the Bi11. House B111 1854. A Bill for an Act to amendjithe Capital 'Development Bond Act. Third Reéding of the J

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1 .' ISpeaker Flinn: HRepresentative Sandquist.'' 1I

Sandquist: HYes, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the I' (

House, I offer you these three Bills in conjunction with l' I

1my Cosponsors, Mr. Madigan, Mr. Epton, Mr. Beatty: andl '

Mr. Ralph Dunn. This is for the construction grants for ;i1libraries throughout the state. It authorizes a grant ofiIup to 25Z of che total cost of any library for a con-1( '

struction of its facilities. It also limits: thougb, for. I!a library district not more than 50Z of the total amount '

1unless it's not expended through library systems. It also .

;provides a special grant of up to 50Z for the Chicago

l' (Public Library, because it is becoming a research center '.

eo be used by the entire state. It is a program...a simi-'$

1ar program we passed two years ago, but the Governor 'J

' ;vetoeds because he didn't have tbe fundsy but he recog-

nized it was a good program. 1, therefore, urge your !1

support of this very needèd program.'' lI

S ker Flinn: l'Representative Totten.'' ipeak

Totten: 'fThank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of i!I

the House. I rise in opposition to House Bill 1852. You êl

. )know, it simply amazes me that atmost...to a persony every:t

Member in this House campaigned on holding taxes and look-illing at new programs, and yet everytime a. program domes jlf

orth that seems to have a needs we vote it out of here 1v 1

and the additional cost or something we lust don't seem toj!

vorry about. Well, this is another one of those programsv:'

,- ' ' àdd it's also another one o'f those programs that originally

bad a 1ot of federal funding in .it, and the Federal Govern-

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ment decided it wasn't worthwhile, so we#re left holdfng I1i , 5. .

. j' the'fag' and ar.e now asked to pick. up the fund for it. The

total priçe ztag on this Bill to start with the foot in the

ldoor il eight mvillion dollars. By the time we pay inter- j!, j I

. est on that, it 11 be fourteen million dollars, ahd there s'

jnothing to say that the original eight million dollars is'. !

Inot going to be increased as the years go on. I think ft's

!a'matter of time before our truth in spending is going to1. !

. come dowa to bear On this House. Therefs probabty over il1a hundred and fifty Members of'this House who think we i

ought to, at sonetine, put a 1id on spending, either

statutorily or Censtitutionally, and we ought to put a

limit on debt. Well, this is one of those proposals whose

time has not come, whose time has come to be defeated,

because it comes at a time of limited resources. We can't!Ido everything, and this is a good place to hold the line, 'I

and I would urge a 'no' vote. It seems it'd be highly

irresponsible at this time to incur this debt over a long-

range time.''!

S eaker Flinn : ''Repre s ent ative Cont i . '' 1P1;.

C o nt i : ''Aga in-, Mr . S p eak e r an d 1, adi es an d Gen t.l emen o f t h e

1House: I regret to interrupt this discussion. The fifth '

grade class from Washington and Schiller.sdhools from,

Centralia is up in the balcony. Therlée represented by

my seatmate, Watsony Mr...Representative Friedrich and

Representative Slape on the other side of the aiéle. The

Washington School.''

Speaker Flinn: 'îRepresentative Schraeder.''

Schraeder: ''Well, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I've

spoken more today than I have in the...probably in the

entire time I've time a Legislator, but it seems to me

that these are awfully important matters, and I would be !

remiss if I didnît bring them to your attention. This

series 'of Bxills not only spends money, but it spends a

tremendous amount of money. Wefre talking about eightt: j

vm i-'w' kp., G E N E R A L .4 S S E M B L Y 5 - l 8 - 7 9f JL , ï ., -'%-r; î smx're oe luulao's Ih : .V . .X -= b: Q kl 5 E7 * F R E P R E S E :4 T' A T i V E Sj . . . . '7.1 > * . ...

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million do llars the f irs t year , and that ' s an annual

' . min imu'i , . e i ghi.f : .m f-ll'io.n . ' annua 1' mi n' infum', wi t h ad d i t io na 1 1

Capital Developm/nt 'Bbndsq, authorization of eight million

o r mo < e annua'lly', 'and'' i't' j us t s e ems t o me th a t in th e s el

' tailing unnecessary expense or idays When We should 'be curIj

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at least settiag priorities: that we should take a good I

hard look at the construction and where we can save money.i' jINow to date we bàven't really passed any legislation that 1It

would curtail ppending or put a cap on spending of-an# of our

governmental units including the State of Illtnois, and l1l

it would seem to me that this is one place that we have to!l

be hard-nosed. We have to deny downstate as well as l!

Chicago the funds to..!.of this maénitude. We lust cannot i!Iafford a beginning bonding authority of eight millionl

dollars, and next year itîll be sixteen, and then the

followingv year thirty-two million. It's just prohibitive

at this time, and would lust ask for a 'nol vote.''

Speaker Flinn: ''Representative Pullen. Just a minute. Rep-

resentative Taylor, for what purpose do you arise?''

Taylor: HMr. Speaker, rise for the purpose of an intro-

duction. We have with us the school...the children from

the Parks School in Joliet, and we'have a copple of them

their teachers, Mrs. 'Smudaî: is...Art Mulcahey...

'Mackey', Dorothy 'Scheinel', Bonnie 'Spooner', and Mrs.

Grunnètt. Parks échoolcbildren from Joliet represented

by Representative Van Duyne, Leinenweber, and who else?

Representative Davisof'

Speaker Flinn: HRepresentative Pullen is recognized.'l

Pullen: ''Yes, Mr. Speaker, I would ltke to speak on this im-

portant Bill that we have before us. and I hope that

everyone realizes what it is welre voting on when we get

around to that point. We have just finished passing a

series of Bills that will p'rovide so much m'oney to the

libraries in this' state lout of''the taxpayer's pocket that

I'm afraid the libraries may end up choking. I suspect in

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o r d e r t o h e lp t h e 1 i b r a r i e s s ur v iv e t h i s t e r r i b 1 e g 1 u t o f 1

t a x mo it ey ' t ha t . i é :r 1; e i n g .' t r in s f ù i' r e'd i n:t o'-e th e i r . c o f f e r s , '

t h i s wo u ld b e '. . . we 1 l , ' ' r e a 1'.1 ytrt't h e f 'i r s t . B i 11 w o u l d ' v e b e e n (

d p l a c e t o s t .a r t .'âvo t (i) il g'' - ' n'ou' .,. b u t 1 e t ' s m ak e up f o r fa g o o'

jwha t we ' v e b e eh . do in g'.' and s't a r t ' b y' d e f ea t in g th i s 3 i11 1' n. o ' . ' ' lnow. Please vote 1

lS aker Flina:. 'lRepresentative Satterthwaite is recognized.'' 1pe

i' iSatterthwaite: '1Wi11 the Sponsor yield for a question? A11 '!

!right, Representative...''

'' i dicates he <il1.'' lSpeaker Flinn: He n.

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Satterthwaite: ''Representattve Sandquist, under what procedurei:was it determined that this new Chicago Public Library

jState Research and Reference Center should be built?'' I

Sandquist: ''We11, it...it's already chere. I mean, the...1

the main center of the Chicago Public Library is there. jll

It's for the recoas...the reconstruction of it. .1 mean, '!j

the refprbishing of it. It will be in the same location :

at Ranu..Randolph and Mtchigan.''

Satterthwaite: ''So, you're saying our...our...the synopsis is

iaaccurate then in talktng about construction of a new

library. Itts really t:e reçonstruction of the o1d one?''!

Sandquist: HThat...that is correct. It...ites really going to,j

be right next to it. IE's an a...you might call it an 1)i

addition or a nev one, but itfs gotng to be at the same

loeation.''

Satierthwafte: '% ut....but, ft fs to have some kind of an ex-

panded role that it does not now have?î'

Sandquist: ''It...it uill be a research and scfentiffc lfbrary

for t%e en...research center for the entire state, as we

now have, I belfeve, one fn Carbondale, one fn Chazpaïgn,

and one bere in Springfield.''

satterthwaite: ''Wel1 ny question relates, ln fact, to thei

University of Illinois Library in Champaign-urbana: which !iinov ls s uf f er f n'g g rea t 1y.' b y ' 1'a c'k ' o f f unds- f o r ' ac q uis i t ko n ' I

to its library facility and also in terms of lack of funds'.1

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for constructton of additional buildings to house that lI

c o 11 e c't t o n . As I r e c a 1 1 ; . ' t h ê '> L1 h i v e r s i t # 36 f ':.'71 1'l i-ho i s r'' -' '

c o 11e c t i o n i s curr en t ly th e th ir d . la r gé é t . 'on e' fn t' th e !1country, and I'm wondering, really,awhéfhef iEfst.a wise lI

'more i.n some- 1choicé of money to be tnvestiég this-tùuch.

lIthing that we are calling a state research and reference l

lready have a much larger collection.at 1center when we a1another location ia the state.ll j1

S d uist: HWel1)..wel1, al1 I can say is I have no oppositionlan q p!

to any help for the iniversfty of Illfnofs tibrary, but...1I

but in Chicago, which serves the entire northern part of !i!

the state: I think it's important that we have this type ilof a library there, and that's what this eould be used fork''l

Satterthwaite: ''But, this has not in anyway been processed 1' jl

ithrough the Board of Higher Education as the unive'rsity

libraries have to be processed in order to set a priority

for their coastruction and needs.''

Sandquist: ''1...1 believe...l believe youVre right on that.''

Satterthwaite: ''Thank you.'rl

inn: ''Representative Skinner.'' iSpeaker F1 t!

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Skinner: Mr. Speaker, am I correct that this will take 107. 't

lvotes to be enacted since it involves state debt...the i:

fmposfng of state debt or the authorfzing of state debt?''

Speaker Flinn: ''Would the Parliamentarian come out?''

Skinner: ''May I comment on the Bill while webre waiting?''

speaker Flinn: ''You can talk while heîs coming out, but you

got to shut up when he gets here.'' lI

sklnner: ''In 1973 and 1974, Representative Ralph Dunn was j1

' !Chairman of a...of a revenue...House Revenue Subcommittee !i

library fin'ancing, which constructed the predecessor lon1icompromise to this Bill. We did not envision eight milliop!;

dollars being spent. I think at that time it was two ,i

i dollars. Last year Representative Barnes upped 'Vmill on 11

the ante to four million dollar: 'Nowl-welre''ép''to'teighf'''million dqllars. 1 donît have anything conceptually <

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against the state subsidizing the Chicago Publié Library jIton b ecaus e z bels eve i c.- tà..'a--.r>g'iyùàzrr,z.is'.ra'r#'.,,..-.'. ?. .-.....c ons t r uc t ,

d does s erve the ent tre ch tcago . Met rôpo z itàzz' à:'ea,?;,.::.a'rkac -. .an j. !.. . . , . .

. .. ,,j: : j ,as much as the Representative from Champaign.iùay.w.iihqto: 1'

jbelieve that people will commute from Chicâgo to'ichamfaignt;l

' ' ltttle far to go by lto do research, she s wrong. It s ai

. sou !.car, and if one goes by any other mode of transportat , !i

it's too costly probably. Nevertheless, eight million îli

dollars is a chunk of change, a:d it seems to me, at the EII

' present timey. xe ought to just sort of vote 'present' ': ;@

' until the figure gets down to a...an amount that's a littlr' j

' j,more bite-size. Nowy are you ready with your ruling, Sir?l

s ker Flinn: ''Representative Sandquist.'' lpeal!

Sandquist: ''Yes, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Il

House, in view of the confusion we have now, and the time

of the day, and people leaving, I'd like to take this!1

out of the record.'' i

skinner: ''What confusion?''

speaker Flinn: ''okay, the Gentleman has asked leave to take

them out of the record.l'

skinner: HWe11s that's no glory.'l

Speaker Flinn: ''No objection. Then out of the record. Rep-

resentative Madigan, for what purpose do you arise?''

Madigan: '1Mr. Speaker, are there any announcements by Committepi

,, iChairmen?t5

speaker Flian: ''Are there any announcements?'' l!

''Zr . S P eak e r , i S Zr . G io r g i in t h e Ch amb e r ? 'î 1YZd i SZZ 1!1

S P e a k e r F 1 i n n : î' R e p r e s e n t a t i M ç G i 0 r g i ' ' $' )

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Madigan: ''Mr. Giorgi. Do you know where Mr. Giorgi is, Mr. ('

tk e r ? '' 1Spea

!$f ' looking for Representative Giorgi. iSpeaker Flinn: We re

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Zeke Giorgi. Agreed Resolutions.'' 1' 1

c 1 e rk 0 ' B r i e n : ''H o u s e R e s o lu t i o n 30 2 , Wa d d e l l ; 30 3 , S imms ; )30 4 Dy er- cat an ia ;' Hous e Jo in t Res o l'ut i'o h' 5 6'. Ha'r'r i'k':z ;' '''

Winchester; and Senate Joint Resolution 49, Jobnson.''.(

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Speaker Flinn: NRepresentative Giorgi.ll 1

:' ' - ' ' i 'lMr' S p eake r 30 2 b y Wa dd e 1j. h o no r s ' E s th e r - E 1 i k 'ab e thN' 'u 1 .: f '-' g* -!. . , . g i o r g : . y !'

l.t z t ckman ; 3o 4 .' by . . : ', ;. 1. .s.,.z z.v Blodgett; 303 by simms honors Andy Sc II

' .. . Dy e r ho no r s th e Hu s t le ; S ena t e Jo i n t Re s o l ut io n by . 4 9 b y' .. : ;l. .: ' ' A. ''.. - ' - 1

Johnson talks about the Christïe Clinlc Association; 56 ' ?.'z,lby Harris honors the National Guards, and I move for the j1

', !adoption of Agreed Resolutions.!

Speaker Flinn: ''The Gentleman moves the adoption of Agreed 1. j ''

' ' The opposed- t.Resolutions. A11 those in favor say aye .

lThe 'ayes' have it. Representative Madigan is recognizeda

1Representative Madigan is recognized. The Clerk will needtl1

a little bit of time for a perfunct.'' I .

'j* ,, '! ''Madigan: Are there any further announcementss Mr. Speakèr? !

. lSpeaker Flinn: HAre there any further announcements? Committel ,

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chairmen or anyone else?'' !i' i

Madigan: ''Providing ten minutes for a Perfunctory Session, I '' @

Imove that we adjourn to 10 a. m. Monday morning, and Mr. '

Koraowicz seconds the motion.'' 7' 1speaker Flinn: ''The motion's been made we adjourn untfl ' ' 1:

.v . v )i0 a,. m. Monday morningal A11 those in favor say aye . :. 1

Those opposed... The 'ayes' have it. The House is ad- !)

' j j ' ljourned. :l

Cle rk 0 ' Bri en : ''Mes s a ge f rom th e S ena te bylMr .'. .'Wri gh t ':s 17 ' il c.'i '

seuretary and Mr. speàker. JI'm-Jdirected to inform you j. I

House of Representatives the Senate's adopted the followini. . 1

Resolutions. The adoption of vhich I'm )Senate JeintI

instructed to ask concurrence of the House of Representa- !. (

' jtives to with Senate Joint Resolution //49, adopted by the i!

. j !Senate May l8, 1979, Kenneth Wright s secretary. Message j

' . . !from the Senate by Mr. Wright's secretary and Mr. Speaker.i

i'

. !I'm directed to inform the House of Representatives that i,

t the adoption !the senate has concurred wtth the House a ' 1' 'j

of the following Joint Xesolution to..eHouse Joint Reso- ';i

. ,. i . . . . .. ' '' ' ' ' l.u t i o n // 5 5 , c o n c u r r e d i n b y t h e S ena t e M ay l 8 , 1 9 7 9 J '' ' . '' '

' ;Also, House Joint Resolution 50 concurred in by the Senate'

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-- May 18 , 19 79 , Kenneth Wri gll t 1 s s ecr etary . S enate Bills (

. . v: .r .e , &- f.c .=.!. l .. ..z , , F i r s .t R e a d ia g. . S e n a t e B f l 1 2 7 8 , .Wa d d e 11 . A 3 i 1 l f o r. a n . , . z... -. .J. ,

. , x . : ; s a ; x j . . . . . . . A, c t t o a !Il e n d t h e H o r s e R a c i n g A c t . F i r s t R e a d i p g o f t h e j .'

ja. , y .: .. . .. . ' . , , B i 11 . S ena t e B i 11 35 3 , Ep t o n . A B i 11 f o r an A c t t o amend 'j. .

l. a ... , . ,. .. , . the Ins uran ce Code . Firs t Read ing o f th e Bi 11 . S ena t e l

. lBill 354, Epton. A Bill for an Act to amend the Insurancel

Code. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 507. A lj1 .Bill for an Act to amend the Illinots Vehicle Code. FirstE

. l( .Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 566. A Bill for an Act

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to amend the School Code. Ffrst Reading of the Bi11. We '. f1

already did that. Senate Bill 582, Campbell. A Bill )

maktng approp4iations to the Department of Public Aid. j '

jFirst Reading of the Bi11. Senate Bill 618: Davis. A '. !

1Bill for an Act to amend the Juvenile Court Act. First l 'i

j 'Reading of the Bi11. Senat: Bill 642. No name. Senate ' i

' (Bill 642 Bowman. A Bill for an Act'to amend the State 1

' j;

Finance Act. First Reading of the Bi11. Senate Bill 658,.1

. 5Abramson. A Bill for an Act to amend an Act to license .i' !and regulate the keeptng and letting of safety deposit (

, fboxes. First Reading of the Bill. Senate Bill 674, 1.

' . . jiBower-preston. A Bill for an Act to amend the Medical ii

Fractïce Act. First Reading of the Bi11. Senate Bill 675'

. j 'Wikoff. A Bill for an Act to amend an Act relattng to ilalcoholic liquors. First Reading of the Bill. Senate j

. iBill 688, Swanstrom. A Bill for an Act to convey land in i

' j. @

.. econvey the Rock River Dam in Ogle County to Commonwealt)1

Edison. First Reading of the Bi11. Senate Bill 944, tl

Terzich. A Bill for an Act making an appropriation of chei. l

Stdte Fire Zarshal. First Readfng Of the Bf11. Senate IllBill 946, Vinson. A Bill for an Act making an appropri-: ))

. . lation of the Department of Mental Realth and Developmental'

fDisabilities. First Reading of the Bi11. Introduction '

' jand First Reading of House Bills. House Bill 2784, Polk. !

lAct to amend the Criminal Code.. First .Readz ,. .

. ...A Bill for an i

2

ing of the Bill. The special order of business is set

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Read.ing:. Corporate Personal Property Tax, House Bills 15.48,

. ,2d93, 2700. 2569, 2.750, and 2092: tax and spending I.7 '. J' . .Ilimits and tax relief, House Bills 2562, 2563, 2564, 2565,

2566, 2567, House Bills 710, 194...excuse me, 197, 2032, !712144

, 2145, 2146, 2147, 2148, 2305, 2306, 2307, 2308, and 1l

2309; school aid, House Bills 513 and 17429 appropriations;1

2690, 2691, 2208, and 1,House Bills 2201, 2649, 2650, 2651,l

2209; transportation, HouseuBtlls 694, 695, 696, 1702, 1iii

2165, 1030, ahd 1816; uhemployment compensation, House lilBills 690 and 1294 dated May 18, 1979. William A. Redmond1.

Speaker of the House. No further business. The House

now stands adlourned.'' 1

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