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M. Lindgren October 5, 2001CMS EMU Meeting -1ALCT-TMB Cable
Comparisons
2 companies expressed interest in supplying a cheaper cable than the Amphenol Skewclear.TYCO – sent two pieces of cable to UCLA3M – Had meeting with them, and they apparently decided
that they were uninterested
TYCO cablesSumitomo, 12 meter, halogen, 30 gauge individual pairsMadison, 10.5 Meter, halogen free, 28(?) gauge individual
pairs.- No individual pair shielding on either cable, just an overall one.
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Cable tests
Initial tests used OSU cable tester, and both cables passed walking ones and zero’s tests, and also a pseudorandom one at 80 Mhz. Could not look at signals with a scope as board was too noisy.
Built a small board with just 2 lvds drivers to look at individual signals for skew and rise time, etc.
Also had one FAST site Skewclear cable(failed the first tester) for comparison.
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Skewclear – LVDS signals
LVDS driven down on pair and terminated into 100 Ohms.
Signal measured using FET probe and Tek scope
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Madison – LVDS signals
Same driver into the Madison cable
Signal shape and attenuation is similar to Skewclear
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Sumitomo – LVDS signals
Same driver into Sumitomo cable
Much worse than the other two
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Skewclear – Pair to pair
Used two drivers, then compared arrival times at termination resistors
Largest difference measured was .3 ns
Actual skew probably less, as were close to limit of ability to measure on scope
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Skew
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Madison – pair to pair
This is one of the better pairs.
Max difference between any two pairs was 1.1 ns
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Sumitomo – pair to pair
Sumitomo cable skew was about the same as the Madison, max difference between pairs was 1.2 ns
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Skew within pairs
Skewclear was hard to measure, as it was again vary small compared to the other two.
Madison maximum skew within a pair was .9 ns
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Mad. – Skew within pairs
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Conclusions
Neither cable met the spec that the maximum pair to pair skew be < 1 ns.
The Madison cable signal attenuation was much less than the Sumitomo, and the signal shape was comparable to the Skewclear.
The quoted price for long Madison cables from TYCO was $239/cable. If the Skewclear is much more expensive than this, we should have TYCO construct some actual cables using this cable and the proper connectors and backshells to evaluate at the FAST sites.
Otherwise, the Skewclear is clearly superior to the TYCO cables, and should be used if it can be purchased for about the same money.