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not have $een unholy. :e# within the $ounds of marriage has the

endorsement of od. 'he notion of marriage without se# is the opposite of

what scriptures teach( 9Marriage should $e honoured $y all, and the marriage

$ed *ept pure, for od will ;udge the adulterer and all the se#ually immoral+

e$rews !3(/1.

'he )postle and

implies that Joseph a$stained from se#ual intercourse with Mary until Jesus

was $orn. 'he ver$ here 9he was not *nowing+ eginos*en1 is in the imperfect

and stresses a specific period of time after which he was 9*nowing+ her in the

$i$lical sense of se#ual intercourse. )s Matthew !(0 and its similar

construction show, a negative statement followed $y 9until which time+

always implies that the negated action will ta*e place after the allotted time

indicated $y the participle1 is up. 'he end of the time is indicated $y the

aorist ver$ 9gave $irth+ ete*en1. 'herefore, it is most li*ely that this verserules out the idea of Mary+s perpetual Virginity $eing part of Matthew+s

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-8!("51. 'he delicate way of Matthew phrases this e#pression lit., 9he was

not *nowing her+1 was a common way of referring to a$staining from se#ual

intercourse in $oth e$rew and ree*. :e#ual a$stinence maintained Joseph

and Mary+s ritual purification the pregnancy as well as ensured that Jesus wasvirginA$orn. But this is not a hint of continued celi$acy after Jesus $irth. 'he

word 9until+ most naturally means that Mary and Joseph had normal marital

se#ual relations after Jesus $irth, from which other children were $orn see

!"(/4, !3(551. 6!47

4. oly :pirit 2mpregnated Mary when she was !" !/ years old


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lineage8. 6!>7

Cham$ers+s twentieth century dictionary of the Fnglish language !0H31(

Beget, $eAget, v.t. to produce or cause ( to generate ( to produce as an effect,

to cause ( pr.p $eget+ting @ pa.t. $egat+, $egot ( pa.p $egot , $egot+ten. n.

Beget+ter, one who $egets( a father ( the agent that occasions or originates

anything8. 6!07

=hat are we supposed to me ma*e of statements li*e that in the Bi$le, that

the od $egets a :on? 'his is e#actly the same as human $y human or

animal $y animal relationship. =e as Muslims o$;ect to the word 9$egotten+$ecause $egetting is an animal act, $elonging to the lower animal functions

of se#. ow can Christians attri$ute such a lowly capacity to od? 'he words

are crystal clear@ any$ody reading the a$ove mentioned verse would straight

away $elieveIthin* that ahweh had se#ual intimacy with Mary and this is the

case.

'he language of the ne#t verse clearly shows se#ual intimacy. Gead the verse

for yourselves(

ing James "HHH Bi$le &u*e !(35

)nd the angel answered and said unto her, 'he oly :pirit shall CMF K


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:on, this day have 2 $egotten thee.+ =e are informed in the first chapter of

&u*e, that Mary was chosen $y the Eather as a choice virgin, through whom

he $egat Jesus. 'he angel said unto the Virgin Mary, 9'he oly host shall

come upon thee and the power of the ighest shall overshadow thee(

therefore, also that holy thing which shall $e $orn of thee shall $e called the

:on of od.+ )fter the power of the ighest had overshadowed Mary, and shehad $y that means conceived, she related the circumstance to her cousin

FliLa$eth in the following words( 9e that is Mighty hath done to me great

things@ and holy is is name.+ 2t seems from this relation that the oly host

accompanied 9the highest+ when he overshadowed the Virgin Mary and $egat

Jesus@ and from this circumstance some have supposed that the $ody of Jesus

was $egotten of the oly host without the instrumentality of the immediate

presence of the Eather. 'here is no dou$t that the oly host came upon

Mary to sanctify her, and ma*e her holy, and prepare her to endure the

glorious presence of 9the ighest,+ that when 9e+ should overshadow her she

might conceive, $eing filled with the oly host@ hence the angel said, as

recorded in Matthew, 9'hat which is conceived in her is of the oly host@+

that is, the oly host gave her strength to a$ide the presence of the father

without $eing consumed@ $ut it was the personage of the father who $egat

the $ody of Jesus@ and for this reason Jesus is called 9the nly $egotten of the

Eather@+ that is, the only one in this world whose fleshly $ody was $egotten $y

the Eather. 'here were millions of sons and daughters whom e $egat $efore

the foundation of this world, $ut they were spirits, and not $odies of flesh and

$ones@ whereas, $oth the spirit and $ody of Jesus were $egotten $y the

EatherA the spirit having $een $egotten in heaven many ages $efore the

ta$ernacle was $egotten upon the earth.

'he fleshly $ody of Jesus reuired a Mother as well as a father. 'herefore, the

father and Mother of Jesus, according to the flesh, must have $een associated

together in capacity of us$and and =ife@ hence the Virgin Mary must have

$een, for the time $eing, the &)=EK& =2EF E D 'F E)'FG ( we use the

term &)=EK& wife, $ecause it would $e $lasphemous in the highest degree to

say that e overshadowed her or $egat the saviour unlawfully. 2t would have

$een unlawful for any man to have interfered with Mary, who was already

espoused to Joseph @ for such a heinious crime would have su$;ected $oth the

guilty parties to death, according to the law of Moses. But od having had themost perfect right to do with is own creation, according to is holy will and


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hus$and. =hether od the Eather gave Mary to Joseph for time only, or for

time and eternity, we are not informed. 2n as much as god was the Eirst

K:B)%D to FG, it may $e that he only gave her to $e the wife of Joseph

while in this mortal state, and that e intended after the resurrection to again

ta*e her as one of his own wives to raise up immortal spirits in eternity. 6"H7

David Jay Jordan a Christian comments on the word -VFG:)D= from

&u*e !(35, he says(

)nd if you didn+t *now it the word 9overshadowed+ is ;ust another delicate

discreet way of saying a man got on top of a woman, casting his shadow over

her, and entered her with his penis and 9made love+ to her. 'his is ;ust the

good oldAfashioned missionary way of producing $a$ies. 'he woman gets

9overshadowed+8or as ing :olomon via the oly :pirit said8 is left hand is

under my head, and his right hand doth em$race me. :ong of :olomon "( 41

Because her lover is over top of her8. and he is overshadowing her 8..+and

his $anner over me was love+ "( /1.

Do clouds penetrate into the wom$ ?8. Does gas produce $a$ies ? 'he

answer o$viously %. 'he &ord created sperm to $rea* thru the egg of a

woman to com$ine with the cell of a woman to reproduce into a new $ody for

a new soul. 'hat+s the &ord+s $iology, that+s is em$ryology. 'hat+s the &ord+s

se#uality.

Mathew !("H But while he thought on these things, $ehold, the angel of the

&ord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear

not to ta*e unto thee Mary thy wife( for that which is C%CF2VFD 2% her is of

the oly host.

)nd the conception happened 2%:2DF Mary+s wom$.

&u*e "("! )nd when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the

child, his name was called JF:K:, which was so named of the angel $efore he

was C%CF2VFD 2% 'F =MB.


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2f you want to read more on this, clic* on the lin* $elow. 2 didn+t add some

other points he $rought up, 2 thin* it is distasteful(

http(IIwww.david;ay;ordan.comIvershadowingofVirginMary.html

Erom everything presented a$ove, it is clear that se#uality was involved in

Mary+s pregnancy.

Brown gwuma says something on this as well(

-2t seems that, li*e the adult human male, the oly :pirit who fathered Jesus

is also more se#ually attracted to younger females than older ones. )nd for

0H years old Joseph having other children with Mary, who was so young as to

$e his grandAdaughter, he must have $een a $usy old man, who apparently

was endowed with se#ual prowess. 6"!7

=e can all agree with the evidence presented that Mary+s pregnancy involved

se#ual intimacy with the oly :pirit. 'his was not me, $ut your own Christians

sources who are admitting such $lasphemous thing that od had se#ual

intimacy with Mary for Jesus to $e $orn.

. )ge of Consent in Furopean N )merican istory

Farly marriages in )merican :tates and Furopean countries prior the "Hth

century, here is an article 2 have written(

http(IIdiscoverAtheAtruth.comI"H!3IH0IH0IageAofAconsentAinAeuropeanA

americanAhistoryI

>. Ouestions for the ateAMongering Christians
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!. =hy was Mary pregnant at such young age $y the oly :pirit?

". =hy did Jesus not spea* against or a$olish1 them Child marriages?

3. ow come H 0H years old at

least with !" year old Mary?

Conclusion( 2 $elieve everything presented in this article supports the fact

that Mary married Joseph the carpenter when she was !" years old and

Joseph at least >H 0H years old. 2 went over and defined the word

9)pocrypha+ as you have read already it originally denoted 9idden or secret+.

Einally, 2 gave a reference from the ospel of Matthew that said after Jesus

$irth Joseph and Mary had normal se#ual life. &astly the references uoted

from some of the early Church fathers that Mary married Joseph when she

was !" years old, some of them $elieved even though Mary was married to

Joseph, she stayed a Virgin whole her life. )lthough they have already

admitted that Joseph was a very, very old man when married to !" year old

Mary, it does not mean nothing if they $elieved she stayed a Virgin. Geason is

$ecause ospel of Matthew already made it clear that there was se#ualintimacy $etween Mary and Joseph after Jesus was $orn. :o whatever the

opinion from some of the early fathers, Matthew !("5 crushesIde$un*s their

fictitious arguments on Mary staying a Virgin whole her life.

Disclaimer( =hatever is given in this article is ;ust showing of the mirror to

the &iarsIdeceivers and other missionary haters of 2slam, otherwise neither 2

nor any Muslim can ever thin* of anything close to it. Christian $rethren and

sisters do understand that this article is in no way attac*ing the Christian

faith. 'he article was mainly written in response to the dou$le standards ofChristian missionaries. %o Muslim can $e a Muslim if heIshe has any such

imagination a$out Mary, the purest and greatest woman of all.

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