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DEAR MBA ASPIRANT

PLEASE REFER THE FOLLOWING FILE VERY CAREFULLY; THIS IS THE

ANTI-GTU CAMPAIGN RUN BY SENIOR MBA PROFESSORS TO OPPOSE

CURRENT TEACHING METHODS IN MBA PROGRAMMES. IF YOU ARE

REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT YOUR MANAGEMENT CAREER, READ

BETWEEN THE LINES, YOU WOULD FEEL THAT CURRENT GTU SYSTEM

IS PLAYING WITH THE LIFE OF STUDENTS PURSUING MBA IN

GUJARAT.

SO RE-THINK OVER THE DECISION OF PURSUING MBA FROM

GUJARAT

GTU SYSTEM FOR MBA PROGRAMME.

Please spare some of your valuable time to go through the following facts. These are interesting

inferences of the current GTU system. It is about the future of GTU Students and Gtu affiliated

colleges. This system is also dangerous for the faculty members as it has started conditioning the

faculty members and we have started taking deviation from the real path of development under

this vague system.

WHAT IS REQUIRED TO COMPLETE GTU SYLLABUS: As per the session plan given in the GTU-syllabus for Sem-II, faculty member needs to conduct minimum

40 sessions for completing the syllabus [however practically as per the opinion of the respective subject teachers ,40 lectures are not sufficient in some subjects i.e. FM-60 lects, MM-50 lects, RMOR-50 lects, CMA-45 lects]

a. Considering the proposed session plan, we need total;

i. 40 lects per subject*7 subjects = 280 Lectures

b. Considering the proposed teaching scheme;

i. We can conduct 3 sessions per subject per week, that is total 21 lectures in 6 working days

ii. Average daily no of lectures are 21/6= 3.5 lectures per day

c. Considering (a) and (b) above;

i. Total no ofTeaching [not working] days required to transact the syllabus

=Total No of Lect.s required [280]

= 109 Teaching DaysAverage Lect.s per day [3.5]

Total Teaching Days REQUIRED = 109 Teaching Days

WHAT IS AVAILABLE AS PER GTU SYLLABUS:


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[Refer Table-1 given at the end]01 Total Days including holidays

[GTU term from 8-2-2010 to 15-05-2010]

: 98 days

02 Deduct the following non-teaching days

* Holidays including Sundays : 20 days

* Sem-I Remedial Exam[Gtu Result is 40% hence 60%

students are busy in Remedial

Exam]

: 10 days

* Mid Sem exam Sem-II : 08 days

* Remedial Internal-Exam Sem-

II

: 08 days

* Preparation leaves : 07 days

Total Non-Teaching days : 53 days

: 53 days

03 Total Teaching Days AVAILABLE : 45 Teaching Days As per the AICTE norms every semester should be conducted for minimum 90 days for recognizing the

degree as a valid degree. [However 90 days are also not sufficient for Real Teaching/learning]

Maximum lectures available per subject :

o (Total teaching days * no. of lect.s per day)/ no. of subjects = (45*3.5)/7

= 23 Lects per Subject

ABOVE ALL FOLLOWING ARE SOME SUBJECTIVE CONSTRAINTS

GTU has recommended minimum 3 text books and 10 reference books in each subject!!!!

[Great!!, keep it up we will beat IIM/Haward in 2 years. *Students of IIMs do not face

this constraint, because their evaluation system is different and their teachers are

their paper setters as well as evaluators]

In most of the numerical subjects, methods explained in different GTU-recommended books

are altogether different. Hence, if student calculates a sum as per Method-1 and the

examiner knows Method-2, student will get a big zero {Quality of examiner and evaluation

pattern is a matter of separate discussion}.

[Ex. In CMA there are two approaches of calculating product costs, multiple

approaches of calculating variances, preparing budgets etc.]

MBA is a PG Course!!, hence students are expected to expect unexpected stuff in the

examination!!!!!

Because of the Number Game in term of result, the institutes cannot afford the following

Useless activities!! because they have no time, and the opportunity cost of the suchactivities is very high.

o Calling guest/expert faculties from reputed institutes

[Because experts are not expert in exam orientation]

o Inviting experts from industry

[Because practical knowledge is not at all important for the exam. Under this system,

exam is the single most important event and result is the single most important

criterion]

o Arranging co-curricular activities-which are very important for MBA Course

[Again it involves very high opportunity cost]


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o Assigning presentations.

o Arranging regular tests [test can be conducted at the cost of a lecture]

o Grooming/polishing the students and many more such useless activities

Sem-II commenced from 8-02-2010 (Theoretically) and the result of Sem-I was announced

on 25th

Feb, since then the failed students (almost 60% of total) are in dilemma in terms of

the following tradeoffs:o If they concentrate on Current Semester (Sem-II), they will again fail in the remedial

exam.o If they concentrate on Remedial exam of Sem-I, they will fail in the current Sem, and

the same story will be repeated next sem.

o If they concentrate on both, they will be able to clear few subjects of Sem-II and few

subjects of Sem-I, and the backlog will be carried over the next year.

o Never mind, this is very interesting and teaches stress management

practically (great relief finally there at-least is something practical in

GTU. Hey GTU, be careful, such practical things will spoil your

REPUTATION)

CONSIDERING THE ABOVE FACTS, IT IS VERY EASY!! TO COMPLETE SYLLABUS/MAKE

STUDENTS PASS THE EXAMINATION IF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE OBSERVED!!!!

If the students and faculty members are magicians/know some kala jadu

If god exists and he/she helps everybody in need

Students forget everything [i.e. taking bath, taking lunch/dinner, spending some time on

reading newspapers, family, parents, emotions, sleep, some entertainment etc.]

All the students have great IQ level and they are designed to perform like programmed

robots with very high memory and good quality processor.

There are 48 hours in a day.

FOLLOWING FLOW-CHART SUMMARIZE THE FLOW OF PRESSURE FROM TOP TO BOTTOM

GTU creates pressure

for the institute

management

Institute

Management passes

on the pressure to

the Head

Head passes on the

pressure to the

Faculties

Faculty members pass on the

pressure to the students by

assigning to much

assignment, firing students,

etc..

And there is extreme pressure

from the parents of the students

WHY AM I WRITING ALL THIS??


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I am working as a core faculty in MBA institute/s for last 10 years. Prior to

joining academics, I was working at a very good position in worlds largest MNC

and was drawing a very good salary.

I entered in academics because I wanted to influence and change lives of

students, and I was successfully doing it till 2009.

Before GTU After GTU

I was discussing mainly the practical stuff

in the classroom in all my subject

Now, I am teaching only those things

which are important for the exam.

My maximum efforts were for grooming

the students

My maximum efforts are for preparing

Lecture notes and reading material

I was going in the class with only case

studies, and was promoting DISCUSSION

in the class

Now I have to TEACH selected case study

as per the GTU syllabus

I was saying, result is not important, you

just concentrate on the applications of

the concept

Now I am saying, forget application,

focus on the method and steps of the

example to score 35 marks in the examI was explaining; What, How & WHY Now I m teaching What and How, WHY is

missing

My objective was to prepare the student

to take corporate challenges

Now my objective is to prepare the

student to take the EXAM Challenge

I was evaluating myself on the basis of

placement and students performance in

the industry

Now I evaluate myself on the basis of

Percent result of my students in my

subject divided by Overall subject result.

Many more such facts can be written. Now, every day when I go in the classroom (specially

in Sem-II) I know that result is not at all important for students career, yet I

motivate/inspire/pressurize them to understand/mug up the theoretical stuff. And for

improving my subjects result I give them extreme pressure. It hurts me like anything when I

look at my students undergoing such futile stress.

As the head, I have converted my institute in a JAIL for students and that makes me feel

guilty. It gives me a feeling that I am culprit of my students. Because of this guilty feeling I

have not slept properly since a long time.

Finally to escape from this guilty feeling I have decided that I will leave this field soon upon

the completion of this semester. Because I cannot do the things if I am not convinced with

them.

Let me tell you that our institute was in the list of top 15 institutes in Gujarat, yet I am

complaining [my complain is not my excuse]. I am complaining because the system has

failed.

FOLLOWING ARE SOME LONG TERM IMPLICATIONS OF THIS SYSTEM FOR MBA PROGRAMME

FLAWS OF EXAM ORIENTATIONS:

{This is applicable only for MBA, as I dont know about the other disciplines}

o Unlike other disciplines, during interview no company asks the candidate

about his result


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(I had been an interviewer when I was in the company)

o By and large companies are interested in the candidates attitude/other

skills and not his result/theoretical knowledge.

(One must check the theoretical knowledge of the candidate before

selecting an accountant/engineer)

o I have observed and analyzed last 8 batches and found no correlation

between students result and their salary. [GTU may assign anindependent research to some reputed consultant to prove this]

o if the following two options are given to an interviewer:

(i). A candidate with 80% marks without any ATKT, having average

interpersonal skills, average communication skills, and average

personality

(ii) A candidate with 50% marks with a lot of ATKTs, having above

average interpersonal & communication skills and very pleasant

personality

Interviewer might select candidate-IIo At the end students of Non-GTU affiliated institutes(deemed

universities/private institutes) will grab better jobs as compared to GTU

students.

LONG TERM (May be, next 2 years) LOSS TO THE GTU AFFILIATED MBA

INSTITUTES:

1. Unlike engineering, entry and exit barriers in MBA are very low [total

investment of Rs. 15 lacs in equipment/fixed assets other than land and

building]. Hence, anybody can start offering managementdegree/education with or without approval of the concerned authorities.

2. The intake capacities of deemed universities are increasing day by day

(under different titles; i.e. x-management, y-management etc)

3. The intake capacities of private non-GTU colleges are also increasing day

by day

4. Colleges mentioned in point-2 and point-3 give 100 percent result and job

guarantee. They can afford to make their curriculum full of extra/co-

curricular activities, personality development activities, practical methods

etc.5. GTU result is 40% and the colleges have to face a lot of constraints in

terms of system and syllabus.

CONSIDERING POINT-4 AND 5, RATIONAL CANDIDATE WILL NOT

TAKE ADMISSION UNDER GTU SYSTEM, HE/SHE MIGHT GO FOR

DEEMED UNIVERSITY/GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENT/PRIVATE

COLLEGE/OTHER STATE OR DISTANCE EDUCATION. THIS WILL RESULT

IN LOW NO. OF APPLICANTS FOR GCET. Unlike Other Disciplines, The


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System & Syllabus For MBA Has Been Designed By Those Who Are

Not At All The Part of GTU. They dont Have to Teach This Syllabus

Under this System. They Are Either From Government Departments

Or From Some Other Deemed Universities

BY THE TIME WE WILL UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM IT WILL BE TOO

LATESO WAKEUP BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.

WHATEVER I/WE HAVE WRITTEN IN THE PRECEDING SECTION IS

APPLICABLE TO MBA ONLY. GTU MIGHT BE A GOOD/SUITABLE

SYSTEM FOR OTHER DISCIPLINES. I AM NOT SAYING THAT GTU IS

A BAD SYSTEM FOR MBA. I JUST TRY TO PROOVE THAT ITS A

NON-SUITABLE SYSTEM FOR MBA

I am also not blaming the GTU officers; actually I would like to salute

efforts and co-operations of GTU people[Mind well only few officers arehandling everything]. Their administrative system is remarkable. But the

core academic GOAL is mislaid


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Table-1: Effective Teaching Days

Date DayWkg

Day No.Date Day

Wkg

Day No.

8-Feb-10 Monday 1 29-Mar-10 Monday 37

9-Feb-10 Tuesday 2 30-Mar-10 Tuesday 38

10-Feb-10 Wednesday 3 31-Mar-10 Wednesday 39

11-Feb-10 Thursday 4 1-Apr-10 Thursday 40

12-Feb-10 Friday Holiday 2-Apr-10 Friday Holiday

13-Feb-10 Saturday 5 3-Apr-10 Saturday 4114-Feb-10 Sunday Holiday 4-Apr-10 Sunday Holiday

15-Feb-10 Monday 6 5-Apr-10 Monday 42

16-Feb-10 Tuesday 7 6-Apr-10 Tuesday 43

17-Feb-10 Wednesday 8 7-Apr-10 Wednesday 44

18-Feb-10 Thursday 9 8-Apr-10 Thursday 45

19-Feb-10 Friday 10 9-Apr-10 Friday 46

20-Feb-10 Saturday 11 10-Apr-10 Saturday 47

21-Feb-10 Sunday Holiday 11-Apr-10 Sunday Holiday

22-Feb-10 Monday 12 12-Apr-10 Monday 48

23-Feb-10 Tuesday 13 13-Apr-10 Tuesday 49

24-Feb-10 Wednesday 14 14-Apr-10 Wednesday Holiday25-Feb-10 Thursday 15 15-Apr-10 Thursday 50

27-Feb-10 Saturday Holiday 16-Apr-10 Friday 51

28-Feb-10 Sunday Holiday 17-Apr-10 Saturday 52

1-Mar-10 Monday Holiday 18-Apr-10 Sunday Holiday

2-Mar-10 Tuesday 16 19-Apr-10 Monday 53

3-Mar-10 Wednesday 17 20-Apr-10 Tuesday 54

4-Mar-10 Thursday 18 21-Apr-10 Wednesday 55

5-Mar-10 Friday 19 22-Apr-10 Thursday 56

6-Mar-10 Saturday 20 23-Apr-10 Friday 57

7-Mar-10 Sunday Holiday 24-Apr-10 Saturday 58

8-Mar-10 Monday 21 25-Apr-10 Sunday Holiday

9-Mar-10 Tuesday 22 26-Apr-10 Monday 59

10-Mar-10 Wednesday 23 27-Apr-10 Tuesday 60

11-Mar-10 Thursday 24 28-Apr-10 Wednesday 61

12-Mar-10 Friday 25 29-Apr-10 Thursday 62

13-Mar-10 Saturday 26 30-Apr-10 Friday 63

14-Mar-10 Sunday Holiday 1-May-10 Saturday 64

15-Mar-10 Monday 27 2-May-10 Sunday Holiday

16-Mar-10 Tuesday 28 3-May-10 Monday 65

17-Mar-10 Wednesday Holiday 4-May-10 Tuesday 66

18-Mar-10 Thursday 29 5-May-10 Wednesday 67

19-Mar-10 Friday 30 6-May-10 Thursday 68

20-Mar-10 Saturday 31 7-May-10 Friday 69

21-Mar-10 Sunday Holiday 8-May-10 Saturday 70

22-Mar-10 Monday 32 9-May-10 Sunday Holiday

23-Mar-10 Tuesday 33 10-May-10 Monday 71

24-Mar-10 Wednesday Holiday 11-May-10 Tuesday 72

25-Mar-10 Thursday 34 12-May-10 Wednesday 73

26-Mar-10 Friday 35 13-May-10 Thursday 74

27-Mar-10 Saturday 36 14-May-10 Friday 75

28-Mar-10 Sunday Holiday 15-May-10 Saturday 76 ReadingVacation

[6workingdays]

GTURemedialExam

[08workingDays]

InternalExam

[8workingdays]

InternalRemedialExam

[7workingDays]


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THE FOLLOWING IS THE RESPONSE TO THE AFORESAID CAMPAIGN

Dear Friends, thx for your responses. Most of the responses (total38)

were sharing same opinion. Two out of them were advocates of the

present system. I have decided to reply to those two selected

responses (their original write ups are given at the end of this

document)

Respected Mr. XYZ and Mr.ABC

I went through your reply. I appreciate your efforts. And I would like to extend my thanks to you for notignoring the sent mail.

An Important Point to be Considered:

All the colleges will have to concentrate excessively on Result (at the cost of many other things) because it

will be reported in the next years information brochure, and will influence the admission rank which might

turn in a vicious cycle

I could summarize the following points after going through your analysis!!!

/assumptions!!/perceptions!/misconception.

[The points are in no chronological order. The Details Of These Points Are Given In The Second Section]

SECTION-I: [Your Analysis]

a. You did not spend sufficient time to read the WHOLE mail.

b. You believe that academic vision and administrative vision are substitutes of each other (actually they are

complements, and administration is a support activity to the core academic activities)

c. You compared GTU system with the system of Gujarat University (this is called basis bias and a case of

bound rationality)d. You assumed that Sr. Faculty members are better than the fresh faculty members

e. You forgot that an MBA should comment on something with data/systematic analysis. Commenting without

data is; perception

f. You assumed that result is very important for the students career

g. You understood that the mail was a complaint against poor result (it wasnt, I wrote it because I can

visualize the long term-(2 yrs)scenario)

h. You presented your way of managing teaching.

i. You believed that I have written this because I dont know how to deal with this, and I am very poor in

planning.

j. You assumed that if you give holiday on Saturday, students will spend time on productive work.


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k. Your theoretical plan for students: read/work for 17 hrs a day!!!

l. Your view on students quality is an excuse/ you are not clear.

SECTION-II: Discussion

Point-1,2,3

You have written:

Look this as my way, and yuo will get the optimized solution, and this may be the best fit option

available, and I feel GTU is much better arrangement on declaring result, and giving all circulars'

online and giving well in advance Semester as well as exam time table.

What I wrote in my mail (refer the second last page of the first mail)

I am also not blaming the GTU officers; actually I would like to salute efforts and co-operations of GTU

people[Mind well only few officers are handling everything]. Their administrative system is remarkable. But

the core academic GOAL is mislaid

Whatever i/we have written in the preceding section is applicable to mba only. gtu might be a good/suitable

system for other disciplines. i am not saying that gtu is a bad system for mba. i just try to prove that its anon-suitable system for mba

Additional explanation

I think this is self explanatory. GTU is very sound in administration, but administration is just a support

activity and not the core activity. One must have a strong vision in academics.

You are comparing GTU with Gujarat University, and that is the root cause of your perception. Visit (I m

sure you havent) the following universities/departments if you want to know the real method of cultivating

MBAs (lets be realistic and not talk about IIMs and other premier institutes)

o G.H. Patel PG Department (and S. P. University MBA System).

o South Gujarat University and specially the university Department.

o North Gujarat University P.G. Department.

o Tolani Institute (just visit this once)

The institutes are expected to keep students on toes in MBA Programe. Continuous evaluation should be done

on the basis of the following (Many institutes including my institute were doing this before the advent of your

be-loved SYSTEM

o Case presentations

o Case development

o Projects

o

Minimum 4 proper presentations in a semester (the presentations must be addressed to external arrogantevaluators from industry to give it a corporate touch)

o Research ability (our students have got published 19 papers during last 4 1/2 yrs, mind well, they were

published in referred journals- we do not allow students/faculties to participate in all conferences)

o And many more such things.

Point-4,5

You have written:


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If we give admission to students of Babool Category, we should not expect Mangoes from them, we also

know the most institutions having fresh MBA faculty as lecturers and then all problem

starts, will get solved in next coming years.

Explanation:

Unlike you(commenting without data) I spend minimum 3 hrs a day on analysis of facts, and I have

derived the following conclusion (I am just presenting the end result of statistical analysis and not the

detailed analysis in order to save your time)

o I gathered data of 30 fresh lecturers subject results and 48 experienced academicians subject

results, and proved that the subject results of fresh faculties are better than the experienced faculties (at 5%

significance level. Data were normalized and some abnormal data were rejected)

o We should also not forget that fresh faculty members are very good in exam orientated

teaching; however they are deficient in practical orientation. Under GTU system our chief concern is result

in view of the fact that it will matter a lot in next years admissions.

Point-6,7 (You assumed that result is very important for students career)

Explanation:

I never comment without supportive data and/or analysis.

I collected students result and placement data for last 6 yrs from 03 universities and derived the

following conclusions. The abnormal data were rejected for drawing meaningful conclusion/s. Students

salaries and results were converted in index numbers for comparison purpose. The sample size was large

enough. (the analysis was, as on 5/8/2009)

o Overall: There is no correlation between result and present salary of a student(Overall

correlation: 0.42)

o Gujarat University: There is no correlation between result and present salary of students

(Overall correlation: 0.27)

o G. H. Patel Department: There is significant correlation between result and present salary of

students (Overall correlation: 0.73)o The above facts are self explanatory and you might get the point.

My criticism was not against poor result (my institute stands in the list of top 15 in terms of result,

however I dont consider this as an achievement). My actual concern was and is: unreasonable result

orientation. We all, the faculty members are willing to put on our best efforts, actually working extremely

hard is our hobby. We dont have any trouble in running fast. We should be frightened because we are

running tooooo fast in the wrong direction

Point-8,9,10,11

You have written:

Now coming to second part, Managing Teaching. Conduct 5 Session a working day, so you

will require 280/5=56 Teaching days to complete your regular teaching. Give Saturday &

Sunday, Holiday to all your students. If students work for 17 hours a days, making all daily

notes and revision, then he will get success in MBA, if students and teachers still fills for

spoon feeding, ready-made material, some substandard publications material will go on the

deteriorate output.


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Explanation:

All the institutes in Gujarat are working hard, and for your kind information; so far (23-03-2010) we

have conducted total 265 sessions and the syllabus is about to be completed. Regarding the advanced time

table sent by you: let me tell you that it is an outdated method of planning. Refer Annexure-1: I have

attached the last years second semesters academic planning of my Institute. My institute was under some

other university.

Faculty members have no issue in conducting 5 or even 7 sessions [only class room sessions without

labs] a day, nevertheless the question is; will the student grasp everything!!?[the law of diminishing

marginal utility is applicable everywhere] Will they get sufficient time to do revision of the taught stuff?

Regarding, if students work for 17 hours a day. Do you always talk like this or this time you are

putting special efforts to prove yourself a Certified Stupid? Consider the following

Working every day 17 hrs. a day

Time spent in sleeping 07 hrs.

Bath, lunch, dnr etc. 02 hrs.

Average transportation time 03 hrs.

Total time required 29 hrs. a day

(.I have forwarded an official letter to the almighty-god to extend earths

revolving cycle time by 5 hours, and I am hopefully awaiting positive reply..!!!)

Point-12

You have written:

1. Compare the result with GCET Merit, and you will come to know the situation.

2. If we give admission to students of Babool Category, we should not expect Mangoes from

them,

3. If you feel that we should get good students in MBA, GCET should be open for All India

Level, instead of Gujarat Students only, and see the miracles in the result., also I'm not

talking about 50% liability and 25% extra liability case. You know what I'm talking all

about.

You are talking (giving excuse) about Gujarati students quality (I assume you are not NET

Qualified, even I m not): Try to take 4 lectures in a single day without using any reference material i.e.:

notes, points, PPT and you will stop commenting on the students quality. We teach one or max. two

subjects that too, we are allowed to go in the class room with PPT, Books, Points, etc. Students have toprepare 07 subjects and they are not allowed to go in the exam hall with all such material.

o Go through the following FUNNY message [These are theoretical calculations]

7 Subjects and 3 Books per Sub.=21 Books

21 Books and 800 pages per Book =16800 pages

1-page=10 Min means total 168000 Min.

168000 Min = 2800 Hrs in 90 days =31 Hrs. a Day!!!


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Unfortunately, our planets day is of 24 hrs only!!

Again, you made a statement on student quality without referring any sort of data. Here I am

presenting an interesting analysis. Your institutes admission rank was in 50-60 and result rank is in 70-80.

Means, you got relatively better quality students and your efforts spoiled their result!!! Can I present the

inferences this way??? GO THROUGH THE FOLLOWING ANALYSIS [this is just a small part of the

detailed result/system post-mortem. please dont quote it anywhere, because it has been submitted to a

reputed journal for publication]

Table-1: Performance Index (PI) of MBA Institutes

Admission

Rank

Result

Rank

Institute P.I. Possible Reason/Key information/Judgment

68 10 Shree Leuva Patel Trust MBA Mahila College Amreli (SFI) 3.90 Not surpr ising this is a women's College

56 16 Daliya Institute of Management, Kanera, Kheda-New 2.54 Not surprising this is a women's College

75 24 Golden Jubilee Institute of Management and Technology,

Abadpura, Ta.

2.50 A Big Surprise

22 4 C.K.Pithawalla Institute of Management Surat (SFI) 2.29 Very good practices/A good college

52 18 Lt. Smt. Sardaben Ganshyambhai Patel Institute of

Management, Dharmaj -New

2.21 Unexplainable/Surprising/Don't Know

47 17 Shri M.H.Kadakia Institute of Management and Computer

Studies, Taluka


57 22 Shree Sarswati Education Sansthan Group of Institutions,Rajpur

,Mehsana - New


14 2 Anand Institute Of Management. Anand (SFI) 2.00 Very good practices/A good college

27 9 C.K. SHAH Vijapurwala Institute of Management, Vadodra-New 1.95 Very good practices/A good college

59 26 K.J. Institute Of Management Vadasma (SFI) 1.92 Very good practices/A good college

81 39 Shree T.S.Patel College of MBA At. & Po. Ambaliya, Ta. Bayad,

Dist.

1.86 A Big Surprise

80 45 Patel Institute of Management ,Nichi Mandal ,Ta Morbi - New 1.64 A Big Surprise

54 35 K.N.V. Institute of Business Management Rajkot (SFI) 1.42 Unexplainable/Surprising/Don't Know

62 41 EVA Institute of Management, Supedi, Dhoraji, Rajkot-New 1.41 Unexplainable/Surprising/Don't Know

35 23 Sakalchand Patel college of Engineering Visnagar (SFI) 1.36 Very good practices/A good college

18 11 NARMADA COLLEGE OF MANAGEMENT, BHARUCH - SFI 1.33 Almost justified

31 21 S. V. Institute of Management Kadi (SFI) 1.32 Almost justified

60 43 Shri Sunshine Education Trust Group of Institution,

Rajkot(Integrated

1.32 Almost justified

28 19 Bhagwan Mahavir College Of Management Surat (SFI) 1.31 Almost justified

21 14 KALOL INSTITUTE OF MANAGEMENT, KALOL - SFI 1.29 Justified

53 40 N.R.Vekaria Institute Of Business Management Studies

Junaghadh (SFI)

1.26 Justified

58 44 Om Shanti Engg. College, Rajkot - New 1.26 Justified

72 56 Shree Aurobindo Institute of Management At. Haripar, Rajkot -

New

1.24 Justified

76 60 SABAR INSTITUTE OF MANAGEMENT, TAJPUR - SFI 1.23 Justified


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12 8 LDRP Institute Of Technology & Research ,Gandhinagar (SFi) 1.22 Justified

16 12 R.B. Institute of Management Studies Ahmedabad (SFI) 1.18 Justified

39 32 SPB Patel Engineering College Mehsana (SFI) 1.17 Justified

77 65 Swami Ghanshyam Jivandasji MBA College,Mandvi,Kutch (SFI) 1.16 Justified

41 34 Nootan Sarva Vidhyalaya Kelavani Mandal Sanchalit MBA

College Visanagar

1.16 Justified

5 3 L.J.Institue of Management Studies AHMEDABAD (SFI) 1.15 Justified

74 63 Sarvoday Charitable MBA College, Kakanpur, Godhra-New 1.15 Justified36 30 Shri Jaysukhlal Vadhar Institute Of Management Studies

Jamnagar (SFI)

1.15 Justified

61 53 Faculty of Management Studies (Grow More Foundation),

Himmatnagar-New

1.13 Justified

78 70 S. P. Patel MBA college, Junagadh 1.10 Justified

67 60 Sardar Institute of Management and Computer Application,

Vijapur-New

1.10 Justified

2 1 N.R. Institute Of Business Management (GLS - MBA)

Ahmedabad (SFI)

1.09 Justified

40 36 C.U. Shah College of Engg. And Technology, Surendranagar -

New

1.09 Justified

42 38 Shree Sahajanand Institute of Management, Bhavnagar - New 1.08 Justified

34 31 Sigma Institute of Engg. , Bakrol -New 1.07 Justified

6 5 Shri Jairambhai Patel Institute of Business Management and

Computer

1.07 Justified

8 7 L.J. Institute Of Engineering And Technology Ahmedabad (SFi) 1.06 Justified

70 66 Shree Sardar Patel Kelvani Mandal Jetpur Managed MBA

College Jetpur

1.05 Justified

79 76 SRK Institute of Management and Computer

Education,Anjar,Kutchh-New

1.03 Justified

82 79 Shri Brahamanand Institute of Computer Science,Junagadhn -

New

1.03 Justified

83 81 Shri Maharshi Dayanand Saraswati MBA College, Tankara-New 1.02 Justified

73 74 Shri D. L. Tilala college of Management Studies , Rajkot - New 0.99 Justified

46 47 Srhi H.D. Gardi Rajkot (SFI) 0.98 Justified

66 69 Samarth Institute of Management , Himmatnagar - New 0.96 Justified

51 54 Laxmi Institute of Management Sarigam, Valsad- New 0.95 Justified

24 29 Sardar Patel Colleger of Administration & Management, Anand-

New

0.87 Justified

50 59 Shree H. N. Shukla College of Management Studies Rajkot (SFI) 0.87 Justified

71 85 Sarvoday Valley College Of Management And Technology. Limdi

(SFI)

0.85 Justified

65 78 Nobel Engg. College (Integrated Campus)-New 0.85 Justified

25 33 Sigma Institute Of Management Studies Vadodara (SFi) 0.81 Almost justified

3 6 G.L.S. Institute of Computer Technology. Ahmedabad-New 0.81 Almost justified

63 80 Om Vindhyavasini Institute of Management Rajkot (SFI) 0.81 Almost justified

20 27 Swami Vivekanand MBA College ,Mansa,Gandhinagar P.G.Rao

(SFI)


55 71 Rajiv Gandhi College of Management, Balasinor, Kheda-New 0.80 Almost justified


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64 84 Shree Samanvay Institute Of Management and Business

Administration,


19 28 Dr. J. K. Patel Institute of Management Vadodara.(SFI) 0.76 Surprising

9 15 Indus Institute Of Technology & Engineering Ahmedabad (SFI) 0.76 Surprising

44 62 K.P. Patel School of Management & Computer Studies

Kapadwanj (SFI)

0.75 Surprising

33 49 Shrimad Rajchandra Inst. of Management and Computer

Application Surat

0.73 Surprising: This is a good institute

38 58 R. K. College of Engineering and Technology Rajkot (SFI) 0.71 This is a good institute

23 37 Marvadi Education Group of Foundation (Integrated Campus)-

New

0.70 Surprising, this is a promising institute

48 73 Knowledge Gurukul Institute of Business Management Rajkot

(SFI)

0.70 Surprising

43 67 Hasmukh Goswami college of Engg.,Vahelal New 0.69 Don't Know

49 77 D. L. Patel Institute of Management &

Technology,Vidhyanagari,Himmatnagar

0.68 Surprising

37 61 Universal College Of Engg. & Technology ,Vadsar -New 0.66 Surprising

30 51 GIDC Rajju Shroff Rofel Institute Of Management Studies Vapi

(SFI)

0.66 Surprising: This is a good institute

45 75 Kum. M.H. Gardi School Of Management Rajkot (SFI) 0.65 Surprising

32 57 T. N. Rao College of Management Studies Rajkot (SFI) 0.63 Surprising: This is not a bad institute

4 13 Shri Chimanbhai Patel Institute of Management & Research

Ahmedabad (SFI)

0.61 Shocking: This is a very good institute

26 50 R. K. College of Business Management Rajkot (SFI) 0.60 Surprising: This is not a bad institute

7 20 L.J.Institute Of Computer Applications AHMEDABAD (SFI) 0.57 Shocking: This is a good institute

29 68 Indu Management Institute Baroda (SFi) 0.50 Don't Know

17 46 Atmiya Institute Of Technology & Science Rajkot (SFI) 0.48 Surprising: This is not a bad institute

15 42 Gandhinagar Institute Of Technology Gandhinagar (SFI) 0.48 Surprising

13 55 S.R.Luthra Institute Of Management Surat (SFI) 0.35 Shocking: This is among the best institutions

in gujarat

10 52 Parul Institute Of Engineering & Technology Vadodara (SFI) 0.32 Surprising,Can't be explained

11 82 Ahmedabad Institute Of Technology Gota, Ahmedabad (SFI) 0.23 Surprising,Can't be explained

1 48 Som-Lalit Institute Of Business Management Studies

Ahmedabad (SFI)

0.19 This is the biggest shock

The institute is among the best in gujarat

Table-2: Analysis of Students' Backlogs (sample size: 678 students)

1 Type of Seat Wise 4 Admission Rank Wise

Category Pass Fail Category Pass Fail

State Quota 77.6% 22.4% Top 25% students 88.6% 11.4%

Mgmt Quota 70.2% 29.8% 26% to 50% 76.2% 23.8%

NRI Quota 69% 31% 51% to 75% 66.7% 33.3%

Last 25% students 63.7 36.3%

2 Category Wise 5 Background Wise

Category Pass Fail Category Pass Fail

Open 76.8% 23.2% BBA 82.9% 17.1%


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SEBC 79.6% 20.4% B.Com 72.1% 27.9%

SC 42.9% 57.1% BE 67.9% 32.1%

Oth 71.4% 28.6%

3 Gender Wise

Category Pass Fail

Male 71.4% 28.6%

Female 94.0% 6.0%

Table-3: Conclusion from Result Analysis in form of Determinants of Result

Following conclusions are drawn on the basis of analysis in the preceding sections & some subjective inputs: Conclusion is in

form of determinants of result-other than institute efforts.

Institutes result depends on the following factor [factors are in chronological order, first being the most important]

Sr.

No.

Factor Explanation

01 Some Unknown

Factor/s

[Surprisingly this is the

most dominant factor]

Analysis in the preceding section draws many surprising conclusions. It has been

observed that the results of 47 percent of total no. of colleges cant be explained, they

are surprising, shocking and abnormal. Following are some possible reasons.

Improper shuffling of answer sheets by GTU & variations in assessment

methods by different faculties.

Good faculties make students feel more secure hence at times students become

overconfident/careless and vice versa for poor faculties.

Experienced faculty members are good in practical discussion but they lackexam orientation.

Exam center effect!!!

Tuition

& teaching in non-English language improves result.

02 Input Quality Almost 50 to 60 percent variations in the sample data can be explained by

variation in input quality.

Student quality Backlogs in percent

Top 25% students 11.43%

26% to 50% 23.81%51% to 75% 33.33%

Last 25% students 36.27%

02 Some unknown

factor/s

Analysis in the preceding section draws many surprising conclusions. It has been

observed that the results of 47 percent of total no. of colleges cant be explained,

they are surprising, shocking and abnormal. Following are some possible reasons.

Improper shuffling of answer sheets by GTU & variations in assessment

methods by different faculties.

Good faculties make students feel more secure hence at times students

become overconfident/careless and vice versa for poor faculties.


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Exam center effect.

Tuition

& teaching in non-English language improves result.

03 Male-Female Ratio This is a major yet not a dominant factor because of less no of girl students in all

institutes. Institutes having more girl students tend to secure marginally higher

average results irrespective of input quality and other qualitative factors.

[Conversely, boys secure better placement]

Gender Backlogs in percent

Male 28.57%

Female 5.95%

04 Geographical

distribution of

students

It has been observed [from the available student set only] that the students from

other region have secured higher result compared to students from

Ahmedabad/Gandhinagar region.

[However, it has been observed from the past experience that students from

Ahmedabad secure better placement]

05 Commuting

students

Students commuting from distance locations have a propensity to secure lower

result compared to students staying in hostel/private accommodation.

06

Non-

significant

factors

Attendance,

Category of

student/ type of

admission

Analysis revels that there is no significant correlation between the factors

mentioned in the preceding column and result.

[This conclusion is drawn on the basis of a relatively smaller sample. However a

larger sample may reveal some meaningful conclusion]

Annexure-1:Academic Calendar of our institute [for the period Jan-June-2009, Semester-II]

Day Week TeachingDay No.

No of Sessions(Session Length: 90 Mins.) and Topic

Sub-1 Sub-2 Sub-3 Sub-4 Sub-5 Sub-6 Sub-7

Sat 1 1

Intro.

1 Project

guidelines Intro.

1 Ch-1 1 Introduction 1 Intro.Sub

Sun 2 1 1 2

Mon 2 3 1 Ch-1

Ch-1

Case-1

Ch-2

1 Intro

ch1

Ch-2

Ch-3

2 Ch-1,2

Ch-6

Ch-2

Ch-2

Ch-2

Ch-2

Ch-2

Ch-2

Ch-1

Ch-1

Ch-2

1 Intro.Sub

Ch-1

Ch-1 Ch-1Tue 4 1 1 2 1

Wed 5 1 1 1 1 1

Thu 6 1 1 1 1 1

Fri 7 1 1 1 1

Sat Corporate Visit for Case Development

Sun

Mon 3

Tue

Wed

Thu 8 1 Ch-2

Submn of Ch-3

Ch-6

1 Ch-2

Ch-3

Ch-3

1 Ch-3

Ch-4

1 Ch-2

Ch-3

Assignt.1

1 Ch-2

Fri 9 1 1 1 1

Sat Extra 2 2


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Sun Extra Case-1 2 Ch-7 2 Ch-3

Mon 4 10 1 Ch-2

Case-2

Ch-3

Ch-3

1 Ch-4

Ch-4

Quiz-1 (Ch-

1to4)

2 Ch-7

Cases Ch-4

Ch-4

Ch-4

Quiz-1(ch-

1,2,3,4)

Ch-9

Ch-16

Ch-3

Ch-4

Ch-4

1 Ch-2

Ch-3

Ch-4

Ch-4

Assignt.1

Tue 11 1 1 2 1

Wed 12 1 1 1 1 1

Thu 13 1 1 1 1 1

Fri 14 1 1 1 1

Sat Holiday

Sun Extra Case Study Review by the Cross Team

Mon 5 15 1 Ch-4

Ch-4

Ch-4

Ch-5

Case-2

Submn

1 Ch-5

Ch-5

Ch-5

Ch-6

2 Ch-11

Ch-12

Ch-12

Ch-5

Ch-5

Ch-5

Ch-6

Ch-6

Ch-16

Ch16

Ch-16

Ch-16

Case-1

Ch-5

Ch-5

Ch-5

Ch-6

1 Ch-5

Ch-5

Ch-5

Ch-6

Case-1

Tue 16 1 1 2 1

Wed 17 1 1 1 1 1

Thu 18 1 1 1 1 1

Fri 19 1 1 1 1

Sat 20 1 1 1 1

Sun Extra 2 2

Mon 6 21 1 Ch-5Ch-6

Ch-6

Ch-6

Assignt.1

1 Ch-7Ch-8

Presnt-1

Quiz-2 (Ch-

5to8)

2 Ch-13Ch-14

Ch-14

Ch-6

Ch-7

Ch-7

Ch-7

Ch-14

Ch-16

Ch-6

Ch-7

Ch-7

Ch-8

1 Ch-6Ch-6

Ch-7

Ch-7

Assignt.2

Tue 22 1 1 2 1

Wed 23 1 1 1 1 1

Thu 24 1 1 1 1 1

Fri 25 1 1 1 1

Sat 26 1 1 1 1

Sun Extra 2 2

Mon 7 27 1 Ch-6

Ch-6

Ch-7

Ch-7

Submn

of

Assignt.1

1 Ch-9

Presnt-2

Ch-10

Ch-10

2 Ch-15

Cases

Ch-14

Ch-9

Ch-9

Ch-10

Ch-17

Ch-18

Ch-19

Ch-19

Ch-8

Ch-8

Ch-8 Ch-8

1 Ch-8

Ch-8

Ch-8

Ch-9

Tue 28 1 1 2 1

Wed 29 1 1 1 1 1

Thu 30 1 1 1 1 1

Fri 31 1 1 1 1

Sat 32 1 1 1 1

Sun Holiday

Mon 8 33 1 Ch-7

Ch-8

Ch-8

Ch-8

Assignt.2

1 Ch-11

Ch-12

Ch-13

2 Ch-16,17

Ch-17,18

Cases

Ch-10

Ch-11

Ch-11

Ch-11Ch-12

Ch-19

Quiz-2(ch-

9,16,17,18,19

Ch-20

Ch-5

Ch-9

Ch-9

Ch-10

Ch-10

Assignt.2

1 Ch-9

Ch-9

Ch-10

Ch-11

Tue 34 1 1 2 1

Wed 35 1 1 1 1 1

Thu 36 1 1 1 1 1

Fri 37 1 1 1 1

Sat 38 1 1 1 1

Sun Extra 2 2

Mon 9 39 1 Ch-9

Ch-9

Ch-10

Ch-10

Assignt.3

Submn

1 Ch-14

Presnt-3

Ch-26

Ch-26

2 Ch-19,20

Ch-20,21

Ch-12

Ch-12

Ch-13

Ch-13

Ch-5

Ch-6

Ch-6

Ch-6

Ch-11

Ch-11

Ch-12

Ch-12

1 Ch-11

Tue 40 1 1 2 1 Ch-11

Ch-12

Ch-12Wed 41 1 1 1 1 1

Thu 42 1 1 1 1 1

Fri 43 1 1 1 1


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Sat 44 of

Assignt.2

1 1 1 1

Sun Holiday

Mon 10 45 1 Ch-11

Ch-11

Ch-11

Case-3

Submn of

Assignt.3

1 Ch-26

Quiz-3 (Ch-8-

17,26)

Ch-27

Presnt-4

2 Ch-22

Cases

Project

Submission

Cases &

Revision

Ch-7

Ch-7

Ch-8

Ch-11

Term Paper

Ch-13

Ch-13

Ch-13

Ch-13

1 Ch-13

Ch-13

Ch-14

Ch-14

Term Paper

Tue 46 1 1 2 1

Wed 47 1 1 1 1 1

Thu 48 1 1 1 1 1

Fri 49 1 1 1 1

Sat 50 1 1 1 1

Sun Holiday

Mon 11 51 1 Revision 1 Ch-27 2 Cases 1 Ch-15

Tue 52 1 Revision 1 Presnt-5 2 Revision 1 Ch-15

Wed Mid Semester Examination

Thu

Fri

Sat

SunMon 12

Tue

Wed

Thu Interim Presentations and Review of Students' Projects

Fri

Sat

Sun

Mon 13 53 1 Ch-12

Ch-12

Ch-13

Ch-13

Submn of

Case-3

1

Presnt-6

Presnt-7

Quiz-4

(Ch18,19,27)

Presnt-9

2 Ch-26,

Ch-27,

Ch-15

Ch-15

Ch-16

Ch-16

Ch-11

Ch-12

Quiz-3 (ch-

20,5,6,7,8,11

Ch-13

Ch-14

Ch-14

Ch-14

Ch-15

1 Ch-16

Ch-17

Ch-17

Ch-17

Assignt.3

Tue 54 1 1 2 1

Wed 55 1 1 1 1 1

Thu 56 1 1 1 1 1

Fri 57 1 1 1 1

Sat 58 1 1 1 1

Sun

Mon 14 59 1 Ch-13

Ch-14

Ch-14

Ch-14

1 Prsnt-10

Prsnt-11

Prsnt-12

2 Ch-28

Ch-29

Ch-16

Ch-16

Ch-17

Ch-17

Ch-13

Ch-13

Ch-14

Ch14

Case-2

Ch-15

Ch-15

Ch-16

Ch-16

1 Ch-18

Ch-19

Ch-20

Ch-21

Case-2

Tue 60 1 1 2 1

Wed 61 1 1 1 1 1

Thu 62 1 1 1 1 1

Fri 63 1 1 1 1

Sat 64 1 1 1 1

Sun

Mon 15 65 1 Ch-15

Ch-15

Ch-15

Revision

1 Project-

submission

2 Ch-30

Cases

Ch-18

Ch-18

Assgmt-1 &2

(Sums of all

the chapters)

Ch-16

Term Paper

Presentation

1 Ch-22

Term Paper

PresentationTue 66 1 1 2 1

Wed 67 1 1 1 1 1

Thu 68 1 1 1 1 1


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Fri 69 1 1 1 1

Sat 70 1 1 1 1

Sun Project/s Submission & Presentation,

Summer Project Proposal Submission

Research Review

End Semester Examination

Mon 16

Tue

Wed

Thu

Fri

Sat

Sun

Mon 17

Tue

Wed

Thu

Fri

SatSun

Total 45 43 54 54 44 44 45

Annexure-II: Analysis of Students Attendance and Result

(Independent: Attendance, Dependent: Result)

Sub-1 Sub-5

Regression Statistics Regression Statistics

Multiple R 0.6854 Multiple R 0.6075

R Square 0.4698 R Square 0.3690

Adjusted R Square 0.4605 Adjusted R Square 0.3581

Standard Error 9.8890 Standard Error 8.6203

Observations 678.0000 Observations 678.0000

Coefficients Coefficients

Constant 12.4628 Constant 23.6020

Variable 0.5728 X Variable 1 0.4145

Sub-2 Sub-6









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X Variable 1 0.4367 X Variable 1 0.3492

Sub-3 Sub-7










Sub-4 Overall

Regression Statistics Regression StatisticsMultiple R 0.4978 Multiple R 0.6842








1. Response from Mr. XYZ

Dear Friends,

Good Day!!

First when I got following message then I got shocked, a person having 10 years experience in Academics

writes like this, then I'm more surprised.


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Look this as my way, and yuo will get the optimized solution, and this may be the best fit option available,

and I feel GTU is much better arrangement on declaring result, and giving all circulars' online and giving

well in advance Semester as well as exam time table.

I know the situations, when I was doing MBA and Gujarat University was taking 1st Sem University

examination at the end of 2nd Semester and no remedial to expect, and then person fail in 1st sem has to

wait for another year.

Now, one university with 85 MBA institute and 6700+ students management is very good, please be on

positive mind that this is first year of GTU.

Now coming to second part, Managing Teaching

Conduct 5 Session a working day, so you will require 280/5=56 Teaching days to complete your regular

teaching.

Give Saturday & Sunday, Holiday to all your students, so they can also do following things,

1. Pass students can revised the study of entire week.

2. ATKT students can use one day for revision in week, and another for current semester.

3. You can arrange all extra curricular activities on Saturday.

I request you to refer attached time table, which is given to my students at the beginning of semester.

Now talk about result part.

1. Compare the result with GCET Merit, and you will come to know the situation.

2. If we give admission to students of Babool Category, we should not expect Mangoes from them, we also

know the most institutions having fresh MBA faculty as lecturers and then all problem starts, will get

solved in next coming years.


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3. If you feel that we should get good students in MBA, GCET should be open for All India Level, instead of

Gujarat Students only, and see the miracles in the result., also I'm not talking about 50% liability and 25%

extra liability case. You know what I'm talking all about.

Plan for students,

1. If students work for 17 hours a days, making all daily notes and revision, then he will get success in MBA,

if students and teachers still fills for spoon feeding, ready-made material, some substandard publications

material will go on the deteriorate output.

well, I'm also a Sr. Faculty in MBA institute, and these are my personal opinions.

what I need is only two basic points from GTU.

1. Standard Solutions to Question Papers to all examiners.

2. GCET open for all India.

2. Response from Mr. ABC

Dear Friend of the GTUMBA groups

Please redo the calculations with 5 hrs of teaching everyday. GTU and AICTE has to keep some minimum

standard eg 30 hrs or 40 hrs. It is good that the University is telling the teachers to teach students for these

many hrs at least. And forcing private managements to teach students from whom they are charging high

fees.

The students should understand to work hard and study well, other they will remain like half cooked food,and will be rejected by the industry. Thus students and their teachers should realise to do their work

seriously, instead of making parents pay high fees and wasting their hard earned mony down the drain, in

celebrating Annual days and DJs etc and moving around on BIKES.

It is high the students realise their own potential and use time for studies and become achitects of Modern

and Developoed India.

With best wishes to all!!


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IF YOU HAD READ WHOLE ANALYSIS, IT HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR THAT

THE OBJECTIVE OF CURRENT GTU SYSTEM IS NOT CAREER ORIENTED

BUT JUST EXAMINATION ORIENTED, SO IF A STUDENT IS HAVING

GOOD PRESENTATION & COMMUNICATION SKILLS BUT NOT SOGOOD AT WRITING SKILLS, HE WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO CLEAR HIS

MBA EXAMS.

THE SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM IS TO PURSUE MBA FROM OUTSIDE

GUJARAT OR TO GO FOR AICTE APPROVED PGDM COURSES OFFERED

BY LEADING MANAGEMENT INSTITUTES LIKE SOMLALIT INSTITUTE OF

MANAGEMENT STUDIES, AHMEDABAD, TOLANI INSTITUTE OFMANAGEMENT STUDIES, ADIPUR, KUTCH, PARUL INSTITUTE OF

MANAGEMENT, BARODA, ROFEL BUSINESS SCHOOL, VAPI ETC.

THEIR COURSES ARE VERY MUCH CAREER-ORIENTED, IN LINES OF

CORPORATE EXPECTATIONS AND PROVIDING INDUSTRY

APPRECIATED DUAL SPECIALISATION, ULTIMATELY TARGETTED TO

GIVE BETTER PLACEMENTS TO THEIR STUDENTS.

SO RE-WORK ON YOUR CAREER STRATEGIES.

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