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August 9 2014

2:19 p.m.

Detective

St Louis County Police

Department

Bureau of Crimes Against Persons

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Today is Saturday, August 9, 2014, and the t ime is 2:19 p .m . This is

Detective w it h t he St Louis County Police

Department s Bureau

of

Crimes Against Persons, DSN I m h er e

at

a in an u nm ar ke d p ol ic e v eh ic le and t hi s is in reference

to St Louis County Complaint

Number

14-43984. In th e vehicle with me

is

would

you say

your

name fo r th e recorder please?

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your

first name fo r

me

please.

. yes. Last name

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And,

what s your

date

of

birth

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And

your

Social Security Number?

And,

where

do y ou l iv e r ight now

Canfield Drive,

Apartment

And

that s

in Ferguson, right?

Yes



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Wh o d o you li ve there with?

My

girlfriend.

What s her

name?

And I was th e

only

one h om e a t t he t im e

Okay. What s your cell phone?

Uh

huh.

oyou have any other phones?

. oh no.

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Yeah

Okay.

Yes

I right?

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And

what

kind

of

phone

is

that?

Um

LG

Optimist.

Who s your carrier?

Sprint or Expo Mobile but i t s through Sprint.

Expo?

Yes

E-x-p-o?

Yes

But i t s a p ar t of Sprint right?



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Yes

Are you workin ?

Yes

Where d o yo u wor k?

Where s

that?

Um Sou I m sorry

What d o you d o t her e?

I m a sales rep.

For who?

Um

fo r

Okay. Alright and um

so

you obviously you know a there s a scene

right in

front of

us right now right?

Exactly.

And you obviously know what this

interview s

about and what we d like

to talk to

you about.

Can

yo u tel l me

a

what

you saw today?

Starting f rom the beginning?

Sure.

Okay my um boss was ight there.

She

was finna pick

me up. When she was headed towards me

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And

Uh huh.

Yes

Okay.

is the young lady in the green shirt r ight there?

She was picking me up so we could head

off to

work. We work in

Illinois. Um

at

the moment that I h ea rd a car tire

skir

like skirrrr like

it h ur ried up and p ul le d o ve r at the same time she called

me

to come

outside cause I was waitin on h er so I saw it was her so I looked out

the window and I saw a police and the f irst thing I saw was



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I m g onn a s to p you there

fo r

a second okay? Where was

was in th e van.

Where s

her

van at?

Over there in

that

parking lot.

Um do you see th e van right now?

Yes

Where

is it?

Right there behind those officers.

Okay.

So

she s right there?

Yes

Okay and she s in her van?

Yes

Okay. What kind of van? Is that a-a Ford

at?

Ford yeah . Yeah.

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Okay so she s sitting in

her

van?

Yes

Okay and what happens then?

Okay

so

she witnesses everything

f ro m t he

behind

but

I witnessed it

f ro m t he to p.

She

um I looked outside I saw a police the f irst thing.

The only thing

that

I saw at

t he mo me nt

was

I m gonna stop you again. Where were you looking outside from?

The side window so

no t

this

w in do w b ut t he

one

to that

side.

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Okay so we re looking at

Yes

And you live on th e

right now.



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Top floor second

I m s or ry u m

third f loor

So

the

very far top left-hand corner

window

was

Yes

and

the

one right around

that

corner too.

Okay so you re lookin

out that window

right there?

Not this one

the

one right around the corner.

Apartment

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Exactly. It s facin right

there towards that

police car.

Okay.

So

that s what

I saw.

Okay. And

so

um you looked

ou t that window

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huh.

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and at the same

time

Yes

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was calling you right?

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cause I heard

the skirrr

and I

just

assumed

it

was

her

and she was

calling me

so

I was-I was gonna grab

my

things

to

come outside

to

go

to

work.

Okay.

So at the moment,

w her e-I mean b ef or e I di d I

just

looked outside

to

make sure she was

it was her

waitin

fo r me and I saw a p ol ic e o ff ic er .

I

don t

know name running towards this guy. I didn t see

the-the

hassle

at

first

but

I di d see hi m g et

out the

car and run in a hu rr y. The guy was

oh I m sorry I can t remember his name

but

it was a friend

o fo f

a friend

of mine and . He ran and so by

that time

I came

f rom that

window

and I ran to

the

patio right there I opened

the

bl inds and I

could see past this corner so I could see directly there from the blinds.

So there I saw

the

man running 1keep hearing some gunshots. Um

the lady s

window

across

the apartment

complex from mine her

window got shot causes steady gunshots flyin everywhere and I

loo ke d o utside. I saw him

turn

around and

put

his hands into the air



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and ge t shot. After resisting

1mean non-resistance after being

compliant

to

the law.

Okay. And yo u were all o n the third floor balcony when you saw this?

Yes sir. And I stepp ed o utside d ur in g this p oint. ssoon as he got shot

I hurried up go t m y phone and started recording it everything

everything thereafter

Okay. And where

were

you standing when this was recording?

On the top floor on th e right side of th e balcony right there.

Okay so you can walk

between

th e tw o apartments there is

that

right ?

Yes .

and you were standing on

that

balcony?

Yes

Okay. And so you recorded

t ha t w it h

your phone?

Yes

And that s t his a

Yes

.

this LG Optimist that you have right here?

And no w it

is

cracked

bu t

I can send the se videos. I

pu t

em on

my

Facebook and I ll send

it to

thi s email r ig ht here. I sent one

to

this

email. So l have a couple

of

em .

What s your Facebook?

...uh huh.



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Phone ringing - video playing)

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UF recorded phone call)

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...dash -) ...

...oh I m sorry. Just put p. Yeah.

Does that look right?

Yes.

Yes

Is there anything else on there that I /we need

to

know about your. ..how

to get to like look at your Facebook stuff?

Oh

no. Everything s, everything s

pretty

open

so

you can see

the

v id eo I

last posted.

Hold on.

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Are you playing it right now? Okay, le t ... I m gonna ask you

to just

stop it

for

a second okay.

Sure thing.

I m just gonna ask you a couple more questions okay? Um,

how

many

officers did you see?

I saw one init ially

then after that two

One

more

walked up and

they

said stood over

the

body.

Okay,

so when the

incident

took

place, um

how many

officers

were

here?

Um, I just saw one

...

Okay.

...that I could see.

How many,

a

gunshots do you

think

you heard?



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Well I ve heard

three

at first like

as

soon

as

I-as soon

as

I heard

the

skirrrr

I heard

three

gunshots

boom-boom-boom

and then I um

came to

the

window and I ke pt b e fo re I c ould e xit my house

f rom the

balcony

to the

actual

door is

whe n I k ep t he ar ing more and more shots

so I was technically

tryin

to stay behind the-stay behind

the

door which

is why

I could see

the

um him getting shot but I wasn t present for

the

video

to

be s ho w cause I was all 1was inside.

Say

that

one more time.

Okay I did kinda just confuse you. Okay so

what

I initially heard

gunshots and after I heard

the

skirring of the car wheels

I-I m gonna

just-just so

I understand

what-what you re

sayin .

So

you

hear the-the car tires right?

Yes

And

A sharp turn.

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Okay. And you look

ou t that far window that

faces

a

right?

Yes

And

what

did you see at

that

point?

car

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I saw

the

man I m sorry by the man I mean

the

police officer getting

ou t

of

his car and r un ning ful l speed. T hat s

when

I

went to the

next

window.

Okay and he was running

This

way

.

where-where s his vehicle at?

Right there.

Okay. So

the

vehicle

with the-the

By the orange cones.

With

the crime scene tape on

the

back of it is that right?

Yes yes.



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Okay. So

that s the

officer s vehicle

that

you saw, right?

Yes

Okay. And, so which direction was he running?

He got

ou t

of the car and ran

to my

right.

Okay,

so

he s running

from that

vehicle?

Yes

To, dow n t he street closer to 29 then closer to 29

And also, while I was l oo ki n , I saw a all black

Monte

Carlo sitting right

directly in front of it and the guy

that

um, I guess he was walking with I

guess his name,

bu t

I

only know

him by a nickname. His name

DJ

He

was

tryin

hide because he was scared

fo r

his life as well cause

th e

police was already shooting, so he was tryin to duck of f behind th e car.

Okay. Um

Yes

bu t

this, um , I was

so

and about

th e

gunshots, then I heard several

mor e. I can t-I can t

pu t

a number on, it was several of e m and

they

were I guess aimed at every direction cause it just sounded like chaos

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Can

you give

me

an estimate?

No-no less than f our aft er t he original ones. No less than four more.

So you heard an original ho w many?

Three.

You

heard

an

original three. And, then roughly ho w long after you

heard those original three?

30 seconds.

30 seconds

f that .

Iater.

Yes



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After

that

you heard

four

more right?

At lease.

And you just made mention that someone s um

window

go t shot

or

something.

Yes I just um I

didn t

see

that

personally b ut t he people who were all

standing right t he re t he y j us t t ol d

me

that

her

window has a bul let mark

through

i t f ro m t he police shootin .

And which apartment is

that?

Well I-they were standing right there

so

I don t know which window. I

just heard

th e

people talkin about

it

and

they

w ere j us t t el li ng me w hi le

I was standing here waitin

fo r

you guys

to

come.

In this building right here?

Yes She

said they they shot through

the window

and um

the other

guy

was unarmed because he

pu t

his hands up so

to

be compliant

so

this

is

a okay so I saw the officer running and by th e

time

I

go t t o t he

next

window I saw h im g et d own l ike a rm s up and then get shot afterwards.

So a t t he p oi nt

that

you first saw the the deceased individual..

Uh huh.

where where were you at? Where where were you a t w he n you first

saw him?

I was looking ou t

my

door.

Okay

so

were you inside your apartment

or

outside

your

apartment?

I was in

i t b ut

the

door

was open

so

I was exiting

ou t

as I was looking at

him.

Okay.

So I m on m y w ay outside

th e

apartment from

th e

balcony.

So you walked

ou t

of the apartment onto your balcony?

Yes



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Alright. Okay. So then

at that

point

where

was

a where

was

the

individual at?

He

was on

the

ground.

He

was already on the ground?

And that s when yep that s when I picked

my

p ho ne u p and just

recording right then and there.

Okay so

what-how

was he on

the

ground?

His head um what s

the

p os it io n? I can t remember analogy his lateral

he was facing downwards arms straight

Was he on his stom ac h or his back?

.

90°

Yes

on his stomach

frontal,

arms 90° angles at

either

side

of

his

head parallel on

the

ground.

Okay which way was his head facing?

Towards

the

police officer. So

that s how

you know

who turned

around

and tried

to ya

know make it understood that he didn t have anything

on hi m because he has a shoe and a hat missing

there

cause he ran this

way

but

turned around this way to where his body

is

facing

that

way

now.

Okay alright. Did you hear

a

anyone saying anything?

I was

too

in shock. I-I all I could hear was

just

gasps and

Did you hear the police officer say anything?

No.

Did you

I hear d h im say g et back

or

somethin like

that,

somethin like

that.

Like

get back

ya know the

crime scene get back. Things

of that

nature

but

Okay when

the

incident s actually taking place did you hear

the

officer

say anything?

I don t-I don t remember him I don t remember hearing him say stop.

I don t remember hearing his voice.

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Okay. Did yo u hea r the a

th e

individual that s deceased did you hear

him saying anything?

I

didn t

hear him eit her. I

didn t

hear him scream or anything. All I

heard was gunshots and death.

And so the f irst time you saw th e officer right what would you

would ve been looking o ut t ha t window?

Uh huh.

Um that looks onto um

The parking lot.

Your friend s car right?

Yes

But then

the first time

you saw

th e

deceased individual.

I have yes.

you were outside th e

front

door of your apartment and you were on

your neighbor s balcony?

Yes

Is

that

right?

Well yes.

I-I don t wanna

put

words in your mouth I just wan na ma ke sure I

understand right is that right?

Yes I looked

o ut t he

bal. looked

o ut t he

blinds first saw

it

happenin

and walked

ou t

the door.

Okay

so

you looked

o ut t he

blinds

Of

th e

balcony

and what did you see?

.

that s where I seen it all.

Right. When you re lookin o ut t he blinds what did you see happening?

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When I looked

o ut t he

blinds I saw

the

man

ge t

clo-Iike okay so he s

r unn in g. I had to

hurry

u p and s witc h w in do ws . I m look ing he s

running still and t he n m y

attention

turned to

the

guy to the in

the

Monte

Carlo cause he was like this ducked of f cause all you hear

is

gunshots so I m assuming he s

tryin to

hide

from

gunshots cause I

honestly didn t know what was going on at the time. I thought maybe

they were

tryin to

shoot th e police

bu t

it turns o ut i t was the

other

wa y

around. So he was hiding from

the

gunshots and the

Monte

Carlo

there was safe.

What

is this northbound and

so

that s when

my

attention while I was lookin through the blinds and after I d id that is

when I came outside and saw the man get shot.

Okay um we-we

went

through kinda a lo t of things there alr ight. I just

w an na mak e sure again. I w an na mak e sure I u nd er stan d and I w an na

make sure I m clear in-on what you re

sayin . Okay?

Sure thing.

But let- let me clarify somethin first okay? We re facing roughly north

northeast right now okay? A

and we re lookin at your

apartment

right?

Okay.

Northeast.

We re

facin so you said that

there

was a and

just

fo r

argument sake let s just say

we re

facin north and let s say that that

is

w es t and let s say that

that

is east.

Okay sure.

Okay. So the

Monte

Carlo was where?

If

this-this

is

north I was lookin south

Right.

So I m lookin this way and t he M ont e Carlo was parked right there.

Okay

so t he M ont e

Carlo

is

parked facing west?

Yes

Okay and where

is th e

male in that car? W he re s he at?

Well he wasn t in th e car. There was

other

people in

th e

car. They

were just stopped behind this police officer. He was just hiding behind

their

car once

th e

police officer fired his shots.



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Okay where was he h id in g in

the

car?

He wasn t he

didn t

he never

go t

in

th e

car. He was

just

should say around the car where was he hiding?

Yeah okay so um back right side.

So on

th e

passenger s side of

th e

vehicle?

Yes

In the back?

Yes

Right back there?

Yes

a

two-door

car

so

yeah.

To

the

rear passenger side of

the

vehicle. Okay.

So

he was on

th e

grass

or

he was in

th e

street

or

what?

He was on

th e

concrete kneeling down.

Okay. And that car

point

to roughly where

that

car was parked.

Um right here facing west directly in front of

th e

sign I guess I wanna

say

What sign?

.

directly in f ro nt o f t h e

29

address.

So

he s parked in

front of the

29 address?

Yes so

he s right here.

Okay.

Do

you

know w ho that

person is?

No.

Have you ever seen him before?

A well I know

w ho t he

person wh o was running it was my f ri en d. I o nl y

know him by nickname DJ



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Okay. Bu t

the- the

person in

t he M ont e

Carlo

do

you

k no w w ho t ha t

was?

Don t know who those people are.

Alright.

I assumed it just to be people riding dow n t he street trying to get by.

They just saw action.

Alright.

anyou t ur n t he air down a little bit?

Sure. It s alright. Sorry I go t this vest on.

Oh yeah.

Alright. You look out your west facing window right?

Yes

Correct me

if

I say something wrong.

You

look

out your

west facing

window

and you see prior to looking

ou t

your window your friend calls

you right?

Uh

huh.

And

about

that

same

time

you hear tires squealing?

Yeah. I heard the tires first. She called like simultaneously.

Almost at th e same time.

Tire call.

Okay. Tires call you look out your west facing window and you see

your I m sorry you

see your friend s car.

Yes

Okay.

Is

she in

the

car?

Yes

Okay she s physically in th e car in

th e

driver s seat

or

passenger seat?

Yeah she was just in the car.



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Okay. And then y ou loo k o ve r to

the

roadway over here on Canfield

right?

Uh

huh. She was behind

the

police so she saw things

from

the back

end.

And you see

the

police car parked where it stands right now right?

Yes

Okay and we re talkin about the police car with the-the tape on it

right?

Yes

Okay. And from there you see a police officer getting

ou t

of his car?

Uh huh.

And

is

he in

the

passenger side

or

driver s side?

No he s in the driver s side.

Okay he gets

out

of his driver s side car-of his car and he goes which

direction?

He

go well if that s west he runs east.

Okay so he s running east now right?

Yes

Okay now at that point you don t see anybody else

other

than the

police officer there right?

I

see

I saw the man running afterwards but at this point yes.

Okay yeah-yeah at

just at

this

point

you

don t

see anybody else right?

Yes

Okay.

At what

point do you hear gunshots?

W ell I he ar d e m. Soon as I heard

the

skirrr I looked

out the

window,

I heard gunshots. So it was l ike all in that order.

So seconds?



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Yes

Exact same

time

almost?

Yes

Okay.

It was like skirrr , phone call boom-boom-boom it was just all

together.

That fast?

Yes

Okay.

cause um the way I heard it he shot while he was trying to pull the

guy

Okay I m -I m gonna stop ya okay?

Oh this first-hand?

Yeah-yeah-yeah.

You

just

want

first-hand free.

I got you. Not rumored just-just

what

you know okay?

Okay.

Okay

so

the officer

out

of

his vehicle and he is running east on

Canfield right?

Uh

huh.

You leave

that

west facing

window,

right?

Yes

And you go where first?

To my-my bal oh I grab my phone first then go

to

my balcony.

Okay. You go

to

your balcony right? And you re inside looking

ou t

first?



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Yes at first.

Okay and then you have a sliding glass door

or

something there?

Yeah.

Okay

so

you re looking

o u t t he

sliding glass door.

Uh huh.

And which

way

are y ou look in g? Are y ou loo king more

towards

th e car

the police car or are you looking more

towards

the east over here?

Well at fir. w ell I m loo kin towards

th e

police running this way

bu t

then

my attention turned

to

th e

Monte

Carlo right here cause I was

wondering

1was

tryin to

see ho w

it

all synchronized together and

whether that

car was in

the wrong

and

whether they w ere t he

ones

that s

in trouble and running away so I had

my

Right. Are you s ti ll in th e house at this point? In

th e

apartment?

Yeah I had my attention turned there.

Okay

so

your attention gets directed

to

t he Mon te Carlo right?

Yes

How

long d o y ou

think your attention

was directed

to the Monte

Carlo

for?

Ten seconds maybe thirty I said ten seconds thirty Ten seconds

maybe twenty

Okay so ten t o t we n ty seconds

Yeah .

your attention is directed at

t he Mon te

Carlo and

Yes

.

I m assuming th e man that s hiding behind t he Mo nt e Carlo.

Yes And at this p oi nt n ow that I m thinkin about it I m witnessing th e

b oy r un past

th e

Monte Carlo cause um no w

that

I m thinkin clearly

he um I m looking directly ou t this window The Monte Carlo s right

here. He was kneeling

down

like slowly scootin up tryin cause as th e



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police was running he was going towards this way so

the

police

wouldn t see him. So I m lookin at th e police and

th e

g uy r un nin . The

g uy was a

little

ways ahead of him so I couldn t really technically see

anything

bu t

th e back side of him. So I m looking at

the

police running

to

while I m lookin at this um

th e

guy in th e

Monte

Carlo cause I was

tryin

to

think

1

thought

he was hiding but really he was

just

scared fo r

his life that type stuff.

Okay so you re talking about

th e

guy creeping

Yes .

is th e guy hiding around

t he M on te

Carlo?

Yes

Okay. So that guy in th e

Monte

Carlo continues to kinda work his way

towards th e

front

of

th e

vehicle

while th e

police officer s

Is running west.

w hich w il l be

towards th e

west okay.

Yes

As the police officer continues running east right? Okay.

Well yeah.

t

what

point d o yo u c om e

ou t

of your apartment then?

Well

no w

that as soon as I saw

that

as soon as I m walkin

ou t

and then

that s when

I saw

th e

man.

Okay so you re walkin

ou t

of your apartment and where d o you w al k

first?

Um directly on

my balcony.

Okay

so

So on this side.

on your balcony first.

On

your side of

th e

balcony

first

Yes

Okay. And

what

do you see at

that

point?



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The man do this and get shot. Like I

didn t

see anything

prior

to, um, I

heard the gunshots so I assumed he got shot more than

that

bu t I didn t

see him specifically get shot nothin

bu t

those tw o times where he

turned around, did this,

go t

shot and

go t

shot again.

Okay. And t hat s f rom your balcony o r f ro m y ou r neighbor s balcony?

That was still from

my

balcony.

Okay, so you re on a

the-the

west side of the balcony then, right?

Yes

Okay, so you re on the west side of th e balcony. You re on th e so

you re

lookin in

f ro n t o f

1guess

you re

lookin

through that-that

a

porch area, awning area. Is that what you re sayin ?

Um, yeah. Well, you can actually see everything

from

here, so even

fro m m y

balcony over

there

I can see directly everything

from

there.

Alright.

So

you looked

down

and

when

you looked

down

here, can you

see

the

police officer?

Yes

What s th e police officer doing?

Sh

shot

the

man.

What -what s

he do ing? Show m e

ho w

he s standing. I-I

don t

mean

get

ou t o f t he

car. I m

just

Oh, okay. He-he, wel l, he had l ik e o ne hand here. The m an loo ke d l ik e

this.

Yeah,

so th e

police

officer

had one hand where?

I m

thinkin

I m

tryin to think

correctly, cause I

don t

wanna

just

say

anything.

I m pretty sure that he had o ne h and h er e bu t he alre ady had his gun in

his hand so it was just like a-a

turn

thing. I don t k no w. It s kinda

ho w

you guys stand-how you stand when you have your gu n in your hand

and

you re facin it toward s om eb od y. But, I remember lookin -Iookin

directly at his face as he di d it. His face was completely red with who



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knows with anger

or

somethin . And

then

he

just

ki lled h im and he

backed away a

l i tt le bit

and started pointing at people to direct

them

away

from

everything

that

was going on and

that is

where I start

recording it so I have video of

that

happening.

Alright. So

th e

officer is standing

ho w

fa r

from-from the

deceased

individual?

T wo fee t thr ee . M ay be o ne ya rd or.

Two

or

three feet is I mean three feets this right?

Uh huh.

He s

that

close?

Yeah.

Okay.

So

are his arms extended? The officer s arms extended?

In

what

way? Fr on t or.

Well I mean

is

he holding

the

gun? Like arms extended

ou t

like this?

Oh yes there

that s

okay so you were asking me b efor e he s ho t h im .

Or is it-is it closer to

I

thought

you

were

sayin after. While before he shot him he was

close.

Ho w close?

He was right

I m-I m thinkin th e

officer was r ig ht h er e and

th e

police

was right there. So

b ef or e he sh ot hi m he

wasn t three feet bu t

he was

close about I ll give

it

tw o

or three

yards.

So

he s okay

so

he s tw o

or three

yards away.

Yes cause he was shootin as he was running. They were shootin if

they were-if they

were running away. That s

wh y

he

turned

around and

pu t

his ar ms up in

the

air and then

go t

closer and shot him.

Okay so

th e

officer s

go t

his arm extended out.

Yes

Does he have his

left

arm or his right arm extended out?

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I don t remember.

Okay. And

do

you remember him saying anything?

No. I can t I was too busy crying and gasping

to

hear much

but

that last

gunshot.

Okay so the so

the

deceased individual.

was he runnin ?

Yes

Which way was he running?

That way f rom the police car to

that

way.

And

He was originally walking this way.

When he stops running

what

does he do?

He

just

turns around and stops.

So

just

stops dead in his tracks.

Yes

And-and

But

after-after

he

got

shot

that first time,

I

don t know

which

time

it

was

but after he got

that

shot he turned around and wanted the police to

realize he was

not

armed so he had his arms up and then got shot again.

Okay do you

know where

he

got

shot?

A

head. He

got

shot right in his face.

Okay. And then um

so

once

the-the

guy falls

to the

ground right? The

deceased individual falls to

the

ground.

What

happens then?

I wanna I-I

think

he sh ot h im t wi ce . But he sho t hi m b ef or e he was on

the

ground so it would, I don t

think

he s l ike he was laying on the

ground just s ho t again. But i t s l ik e

boom-boom

and then he fell.

Okay so he was he didn t shoot him when he was laying on

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Yeah, no.

Yes?

I m sorry. I mi xed that I m ix up my w ords. No, he did

no t

shoot him

while he was on

th e

ground

Okay.

that I could tell.

Alr ig ht. Okay. And the n- an d then that s when you started recording,

correct?

Yes

Okay, here um, because you obviously have a-a-a important piece

of

the

incident on

your

phone okay

Uh huh.

A I d l ike

to

t ak e a l oo k at your phone. I m assuming

you re

okay with

that.

Yeah, you probably won t be able

to

see anything.

It d

be better if I sent

it to you.

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no

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theyjust

killed this nigger. is blood everywhere.

I found, this is the first video I took.

You

can t, you can just see from

th e

little

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my

p rtmentwhere he

ain t armed. e don t got

no

gun. They just killed this nigger. is blood

everywhere.

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that s just

you UI) ?

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th e

video s on.

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to

s y

bout

this shit. his shit

ridiculous.

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I m sor ry. Let

me

I

don t

believe that

that

wa s

th e

first

one

cause th e

first on e I wa s ... here

is th e

very first one. Sorry my phone

is

horrible.

It s dropped wa y

to o

many times.

Yeah it s on e of

th e

w ors t da ma ged phone s I ve seen.

And it just h ap pe ns t o b e

th e

on e with

th e

evidence on it.

With

th e

what?

With th e evidence on it. Man I don t wanna ac t ridiculous. So it just

an d

sometimes

it

e ve n p re ss

butt ons w hen it

wants

to it s like

...

Ya know what?

Here s

what

I m

gonna

a here s

what

I m gonna ask

you

to

do okay?

Uh

huh.

We ve got a. w e v e g ot a forensics guy wh o

can-who

ca n

ge t

everything

off th e

phone

okay?

Okay.

I m just gonna ask him

to

take a look

at

it. You okay with that? Alright.

Ummm.

J us t d o

me

this

just

do

me

this favor

okay?

Here um go ahead

an d

pu t date an d time an d w he re w e re a t an d

basically

this

is

just

sayin

that

we

can take it an d

then we

can

we ca n ge t everything

off

th e

phone.

Okay?

Okay.

Okay.

Um ar e you suppose

to pu t th e

fact

that

you re

searchin

th e phone

first?

Yeah uh h uh . But you re

gonna

write that.

Okay.

Yeah yeah.

UI I g ive my consent UI .

No-no-no.

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It s just this to p h alf here. They just put two tw o different a things on

on o ne for m. So today

is

obviously a August 9 2014.

You all should fix my phone fo r me too 2014.

2014.

I thought you said 13

fo r

a second. I t s 246?

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Uh huh. And loc at io n yo u can

just

use

check the consent to search box, okay.

address . So and

then

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Describe items and location in detail. Okay, so phone and gallery

Well, check

th e

box f irst . There you go. And,

then just write your

full

n ame r ig ht the re . Okay, and then it says obviously

that

we can-that we

can search your and however, you describe

what is

it? It s a black LG

Optimist, right?

Uh

huh.

Okay, so my a black and severely broken, I m kiddin , about

that

part.

My

black

And damaged.

a LG Optimist phone.

Okay, this excludes all text messages and/or phone calls.

Okay,

just

ou t of curiosity why-why are you excluding that

part

of it?

Just

fo r

my-my own, m y o wn w an t. You won t be able

to

read em

anyway, well if you gonna, if

th e

forensic person can get em

of f

here, it

doesn t matter. cause you should only need to search what s

pertaining

to

the evidence

of

this crime scene. UI). Okay.

Okay, and then um, just

with

phone number, and then

pu t

your phone

number there.

Okay. And then, where

it

says consent, signature on the bottom down

there.



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Consent.

Consent signature.

Oh, this one? W ait, where UI)?

The second line right there, consent signature. Right there consent

signature.

Oh, okay.

And then

just

pu t a

And this

isn t

fo r DNA?

No, it s not. No.

.

my

date

of

birth

and all

that?

Yes

ma am. All that stuff.

The address

to

UI).

Uh huh, yeah.

I don t live there anymore.

Including your apartment number.

I don t

know

wh y I p ut t he street after, I m just all messed up today.

5hewww Missouri 5t Louis Missouri Um I

just

have a question.

Wh y was th e

officer

taken away so swiftly?

I wasn t here.

Oh, okay.

So I

can t

answer that question. A and

t he n j us t

pu t y ou r, oh y ou

already

go t your

phone down.

So

Okay.

I ll take that And, t he n let m e Let me take

that

please. Okay, so is

there a-is there a password on it or anything?

Nope. It s completely open.

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Yep All th e last like nine videos were taken.

OK so

if I close it I close it like that. Is

that

right?

Uh

huh.

And then I turn it o n l ike that

Yeah.

And

then

ho w do I like go back like to a

home

screen or. ?

Okay

l et m e

give you this. I had to

download an

app

fo r

it since

it s

so

b ro ke n. I m s or ry

about

this. Ah

there

you go. I t s r igh t t he re . See

ho w

it

just clicks everywhere?

Yeah.

That

little

home

button

w il l t ake you home. The back

button

will take

you back.

How d you figure

that

out?

I had

to

download a app fo r it.

Okay.

I

j us t k no w t he re

had

to

be a app

fo r

it.

I m

just

gonna

t urn i t of f so th e battery

doesn t die. Which one do I

need to

The to p one. Po wer o ff .

This one?

Yep and then okay.

There?

Yeah sometimes

it

just acts really stupid

to

where you have

to

like turn

it on and turn

it off

again and then do it again.

Okay.

There you go.



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A lr ig ht. Okay. I m go nna

pu t

it right here

fo r

now. Um, do you have

any other,

what s your

girlfriend s phone number?

Uh huh.

Did you talk

to

anybody about this?

Oh, I

put t hat

video on my Facebook and it

go t

19 likes and 13

comments

bu t

I

haven t

had a chance

to

read

e m

yet.

Okay, did you talk to anybody about t he actual inc id en t b efor e yo u

talked to me?

My

co-worker,

my

roommate.

Your co-worker meaning

a

okay.

yeah. Um,

wait

wh o else UI), oh, and

tw o

people called me because

they said I saw a picture on instagram

your

apartment complex. Are

yo u okay? They called m e so I was explaining, so um and my

best friend . I

just

briefly described

to

say um, a g uy

go t

shot.

We

just, w e don t w e

tryin

to figure ou t

what

happened UI).

Okay. Okay. Is there anything else

that

you feel

that

is

important

that

we should know?

A just

well

no t

probably

nothing

I

don t

already know.

Is

this

your

best recollection of

the-of

th e incident. You re

not-you re

no t

leaving anything out?

No.

You re

no t

embellishing anything?

No,

no t

exaggerating anything.

Okay. Um, this is your-your most

truthful

statement

that-that

you have,

right?



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Yes sir

Okay

f th r is

nothing else

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