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Ms. Denn
Guidance Counsellor
March 2020
It influences career choice
It affects life direction
It affects course choice at third level
To choose a meaningful – manageable package
Meaningful: To know the WHY of the choiceMotivation :
Manageable: Achievable subjects and levels
Package: Viewed in the overall context( not individual subjects)
1. Type of Leaving Cert-traditional or LCA
2. Total number of subjects (seven)
3. Compulsory- Irish, English & Maths
4. (Continental Language Recommended)
5. Levels at which to take subjects-
Higher / Ordinary /Foundation (Irish &
Maths only)
Research
InformationPlanning
Personality
& Learning
Style
Abilities
Career
ChoiceInterests
1. Familiarise yourself with the subjects using the careers portal website and qualifax for researching courses (https://careers portal.ie/school/subject_explorer.php)
2. Identify the subjects you like and are enthusiastic about
3. Identify the subjects you have an aptitude for
4. Think about possible career areas or career opportunities or the subject’s relevance to certain careers
5. Identify essential subjects for college entry/course entry
It’s your choice and your
responsibility to do your
research and check entry
requirements.
Don’t choose a subject because of friends
Everybody has different strengths and abilities
Don’t choose a subject because of teachers – you may or may not have that teacher in 5th yr
Over specialising – keep options open
Thinking a subject is hard/easy – subjects we find easiest are subjects we enjoy!
Not enough research into the subject and choosing one at the last minute Please go to https://careers portal.ie/school/subject_explorer.php and research each subject thoroughly.
Under/Over estimating your potential
L.Cert Subject Options
Career (s)of Interest
What I’m good at
What Ilike
Discussionwith
Subject teachers
SubjectOptions
Week and workshop
Minimum entry
requirements to courses
My perceptionof difficulty
of subject
Subjects Available
Influence of Friends
Parents’influence
Project work/assign
ments
Interest InventoryCareers portal
Influences on the Decision
Humanities Science Business Artistic/ Creative
Practical SocialGroup
French Biology Accounting Art ConstructionStudies
History
German Chemistry Business Music Engineering Geography
Agricultural Science
Economics TechnicalGraphics
Home Economics
Physics
Choice of Subjects in St. Declan’s Community
College
1. Matriculation
2. General College Entry Requirements
3. Specific Subject Requirements
4. Points
Grades Points
90 -100 H1 O1 100 56
80 -89 H2 O2 88 46
70 -79 H3 O3 77 37
60 -69 H4 O4 66 28
50 -59 H5 O5 56 20
40 -49 H6 O6 46 12
30 -39 H7 O7 37 0
0– 29 H8 O8 0 0
+ 25 bonus points for Honours
Maths ( FROM H6 UPWARDS)
• Points are awarded for each grade at Ordinary & Higher Level.
Some colleges are awarding points for Foundation Level maths
for some courses
• Please check prospectus or the Qualifax website to be certain
• Foundation Level Maths F1= 20
F2= 12
• To calculate your points total your best six grades
• High points for a course tells you that there is demand for that
course, not how difficult it is.
Best Six Subjects
Subject Level Grade Points
Irish 0 O2 46
English 0 O3 37
Maths 0 O2 46
French 0 O5 20*
Geography H H4 66
Tech Graphics H H3 77
Biology H H5 56
Total: 328
NUI English, Irish and third language
Trinity, University of Limerick English, Maths and another language
DCU Maths and English or Irish
Institutes of Technology Maths and English or Irish
Colleges of Education Maths and English and (Irish –H4 at higher level)
Others Vary
National University of Ireland◦ UCD, UCC, NUIG, NUI – MAYNOOTH, NCAD, ST.
ANGELA’S, SHANNON COLLEGE, RCSI,
◦ 2H5 +4 O6/H7
◦ MATHS, IRISH, ENGLISH, & A THIRD LANGUAGE
◦ There are exceptions:
◦ E.g. Science, Engineering, Architecture (UCC)
◦ Nursing, Ag Science, Art, Business and Law Maynooth
Maths & Irish or English
Higher Certificates & Ordinary level 7 degrees – 5 O6/H7
Degrees – 2 H5 + 4 OD6/H7
N.B Ordinary Level Maths
This may be a specific Subject or a level e.g.:
Hons degree in Engineering (NUI)
Higher Maths – H5,O6/H7in Science
Primary Teaching – H4 in Irish
Veterinary, Pharmacy, Medicine, Dentistry & Human Nutrition – H5/H4 in Chemistry
Defence Forces – a Continental language-cadets
D.C.G. is not required for any Architecture, Engineering, Surveying or Product Design courses although it will form a significant part of these courses.
Accounting, Business or Economics are not required for any Commerce, Business or Marketing courses (except for the Accounting degree in NUI Galway).Although you would be at an advantage to have studied them to L.C. level.
At least one and often two is required for the following:
Science, Engineering, Medicine(2) Dentistry(2)
Veterinary, Pharmacy(2)
Physiotherapy(2), Radiography, Nursing, Architecture(UCD), Occupational Therapy
Speech Therapy, Dietetics, Med Lab Science, Optometry.
Choosing a Third Language
• Rule out entry to certain courses in some colleges where a Third
Language entry is a requirement
• A Third Language is a requirement for most courses in NUI
colleges for courses in Arts, Social Science, Law, Commerce,
Accounting, Human Sciences, Medicine & Health Sciences.
• Other colleges have a third language as a requirement for
courses that have a large language component e.g. European
Studies, Languages & Marketing, Hotel Management,
Languages & International Tourism.
• Health Sciences do require a third language in NUI colleges for
pharmacy, medicine etc.
• Entry to the Cadetships in the Army, Aircorps, Army Equitation
and Naval Services require a third language
• NCAD require a third language or art
• Many science and engineering courses include the study of
French or German from scratch.
• No third language requirement for the Gardai, Nursing,
Apprenticeships or most PLC courses
• This information is subject to change so always check
with the course provider or Guidance Counsellor
1 Get a Job
2 Secure an Apprenticeship
3 Go to a College of Further Education
Most employers look for a minimumof 5 passes (O6) in L.C. (includingEnglish and Maths).
The vast majority of current employersare looking for school leavers withcomputer skills.
In the past, students needed only the J.C. to secure anapprenticeship. However, Employers are now seeking studentswho have achieved good grades in the Leaving Certificate.
In the past Apprenticeships were traditionally associated with technical and practical careers such as Motor Mechanics, Electrical Work, Construction
25 New Apprenticeships into Ireland – areas where there is severe skills shortages (Software Development, Financial Services, Chef/Baker, Butchery, Travel & Hospitality, Medical Devices
The duration of the new apprenticeships varies, depending on the degree of difficulty involved in meeting the set learning outcomes for the particular apprenticeship programme.
2. Apprenticeships
Students need to have attained a minimum of 5 passes (O6) in order to gain entry.
Exact subject requirements for each course can be found in the relevant PLC brochures, as well as on the Qualifax website.
www.cao.ie -Irish college entry system
www.careers portal.ie –Subject/Careers/Courses
www.careernews.ie daily updates
www.eunicas.ie- European college programmes through English
www.qualifax.ie course/career/subject research
www.ucas.ie UK/Northern Ireland entry system
www.apprentices.ie
www.nursingcareers.ie
www.military.ie
www.teagasc.ie
www.steps.ie
www.scoilnet.ie
All colleges have their own websites
• Remember that the Leaving Certificate requires a great amount of hard work over two years. It is much easier to work hard if you have chosen, in so far as is possible, subjects you like.
• The Leaving Certificate also requires a sense of purpose. It is easier to be motivated if you have a clear goal in sight e.g. to be accepted for a particular course, apprenticeship or to get a good job, etc.
• A good level of education can only improve your chances. Use your ability to its fullest.
Ability is what you're
capable of doing.
Motivation determineswhat you do.
Attitude determineshow well you do it.
Lou HoltzAmerican, 1937 -
