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Name That Nubbin!Elizabeth (Lisa) Swanson, MD
Advanced Dermatology- Colorado
Rocky Mountain Hospital for Children
Disclosures
• Speaker
• Valeant
• Bayer
• Aqua
• Advisory Board Representative
• Allergan
• Amgen
• Sanofi-Regeneron
Nubbin: something that is small for its kind,
stunted, undeveloped, or imperfect
Made Famous in a Friends Episode
• Chandler reveals his accessory nipple
• Joey: “I can’t believe you. You told me it was a nubbin.”
• Ross: “Joey, what did you think a nubbin was?”
• Joey: “I don’t know. You see something, you hear a word, I thought that’s what it was. Let me see it again.”
Nubbin
• I am going to use the term nubbin to mean a collection of spots in kids that represent a “miscellaneous” sort of category
Spider Angioma
• Small raised pink-red papule with radiating telangiectasia like legs on a spider
• Blanch with pressure from a glass slide
• Eventually resolve on their own
• Can be treated with vascular laser if bothersome
Pyogenic Granuloma
• “Little ball of capillaries”
• Common in kids and pregnant women
• Some people remember trauma to the area prior to its growth
• 2 Treatment Options
• Shave removal
• Topical timolol bid
• Initial study in March/April 2014 SPD journal using timolol 0.5% gel forming solution BID
• Great results with clearance after 2-3 mos
• Bleeding stopped relatively instantly
• Likely working by vasoconstriction
• Important to followup these patients to ensure improvement (spitz nevi, even melanoma in ddx)
Pyogenic Granulomas
Pyogenic Granuloma
Pyogenic Granuloma
Juvenile Xanthogranuloma
• Form of non-Langerhan’s cell histiocytosis
• Presents as an orange-yellow-brown dome shaped papule in a child
• “color of the rising sun”
• Benign; will resolve spontaneously
• Recurs if it is removed
Lichen Striatus
• Causes a linear streak of raised flat topped skin colored to pink papules, typically down an extremity
• Can affect the nail on that extremity
• 10% of cases are bilateral
• Sometimes itchy, sometimes not
• Topical steroids or calcineurin inhibitors help for the itch
• Resolves on its own; typically takes 2-3 yrs
Ring Phenomenon
• Typically associated with cantharidin
• Can happen with liquid nitrogen
• The treated wart may or may not go away and then a ring of warts develops around the initial wart
• If you continue that treatment, the ring gets bigger
• I feel it is happening more and more commonly with cantharidin these days
Warts• Countless treatment options
• Liquid nitrogen
• Cantharidin
• OTCs
• Candida
• Squaric Acid (contact sensitizers)
• Laser
• Bleomycin
• Best Thing Ever- WartPeel!• Nucara Pharmacy- Iowa
• Sal acid + 5FU
• Magic in a bottle
• Applied at bedtime under “sticky tape”
• $89 and worth every penny!
WartPeel
WartPeel
Warts- Alternative Therapies
• Zinc sulfate 10 mg/kg/day (max 600 mg) x 2 mos• Complete clearance in 75% of patients
• Nausea is really bad
• Propolis daily x 3 mos• 135 patients- 73% had clearance
• Avoid if bee allergy
• Valtrex 1 gm daily x 60 days- just 2 cases (JDD Feb 2016)
• Picato- couple case reports on using it for genital warts and epidermodysplasia verruciformis
• Just wait- 200 kids- 65% resolved by 2 yrs, 80% by 4 yrs (SPD Sept/Oct 2015)
• Mounting number of case reports showing that when pre-teens and teens are given HPV vaccine, their warts go away
• It will be interesting to see if we notice a decrease in incidence of warts over time as more and more people get immunized
Warts and HPV Vaccination
HPV Vaccines
• 3 approved HPV vaccines
• Some concern about reports of MS, optic neuritis, transverse myelitis
• 10 cases of regional pain syndrome
• 4 reports of premature ovarian failure (possibly an autoimmune reaction from vaccine)
Wart vs Callus/Corn-A Handy Trick
• Press on top of it
• If it hurts, it is a callus/corn
• Press on the sides of it (squeeze it)
• If it hurts, it is a wart
• Look like pimples/boils
• Due to body’s immune system response
• Not infected, just inflamed
• BOTE sign- Beginning Of The End
PseudofurunculoidMolluscum
PseudofurunculoidMolluscum
PF Molluscum and Id Reaction
PF Molluscum and Id Reaction
• Treat the Id Reaction with topical steroids
• Treat the PF molluscumwith oral antibiotics or bleach baths
• F/u 2-3 wks
• Usually everything is “all better”
Molluscum Contagiosum
• Caused by a poxvirus
• Very common in kids- pretty much all kids get them
• Spread by direct contact and spread like crazy in water (including swimming pools)
• Treatment is not mandatory as they will go away with time
• Can take up to 2 yrs to resolve on their own
• Recent study of 170 kids- half treated, half not treated
• Molluscum resolved in the same amount of time
Molluscum Treatment Options
• Imiquimod/Zyclara• Apply MWF at bedtime x 8 wks
• A little irritation- good; a lot of irritation-bad
• Zymaderm• All natural OTC product,
botanical based
• Applied BID
• Candida antigen injections• Injected into 1-2 of the molluscum
every 3 wks
• Tolerable; typically 3-5 treatments
• Side effect profile
• Cantharidin• Never use it in the axilla
• Blisters can be bad
• 50% resolution with each treatment is success
• Hard to get these days
• Curettage
• Liquid Nitrogen
• Topical retinoids
• Some kids will get an eczema like rash around the molluscum
• Important to treat it as it itches so kids scratch and then spread the molluscum
Molluscum Dermatitis
Accessory Tragus
• Benign, harmless
• No associated issues with hearing, kidneys, etc
• Can be removed
• My preference is to have peds ENT do it as they can be a “top of an iceberg”
• Sometimes if it is small and clearly just fleshy without cartilage, I will numb it and snip it off
Solitary Mastocytoma
• Benign collection of mast cells
• Hives up when rubbed or irritated
• Will go away
• Not scary
Urticaria Pigmentosa
Urticaria Pigmentosa
• Lots of solitary mastocytomas
• Not scary, but looks scary and parents are often freaked out
• Most kids outgrow it
• No reason to check serum tryptase
• No risk of mast cell leukemia
• Manage with topical steroids prn
• Antihistamines +/-
Dangerous Mast Cell Issues
• Bullous Mastocytosis- presents as blistering in a newborn; ddx includes EB
• Diffuse Cutaneous Mastocytosis- the skin is diffusely infiltrated by mast cells so it becomes yellowish and rubbery diffusely
• Only these 2 mast cell issues carry risk of mast cell leukemia and require systemic workup and hem/onc involvement
Aquagenic SyringealAcrokeratoderma
• Causes swelling, papules, increased wrinkling on palms following immersion in water
• If occurring in a young child, they should be screened for Cystic Fibrosis
• If occurring in an older, clearly healthy child, then there is no concern
• Sometimes kids with this are heavy sweaters-treating that can help
• Kids outgrow it
Gluteal Variant of Perioral Dermatitis
• Consists of small pink papules and pustules on buttocks
• DDx includes keratosis pilaris and staph
• I typically culture at first visit to r/o staph
• Treatment:• Clindamycin wipes
• Elidel
• Amoxicillin (azithro if PCN allergic)
• Since the chicken pox vaccine has been more regularly administered to children, cases of herpes zoster in children have been on the rise
• We don’t know why immunity seems different with the vaccine vs having the chicken pox
• Patient is contagious to people who have not had the chicken pox (can’t catch shingles from shingles)• Need to avoid unimmunized kids and pregnant women
• Treatment with Acyclovir 30-50 mg/kg/day divided TID (valtrex if old enough to take pills)
Herpes Zoster
Psoriasis
• This was a real “curbside” photo sent to me
• No other photos were sent
• Even with the limited info, this is clearly psoriasis, most likely guttate
• “Psoriasis” pink
• Koebner phenomenon
Bronchogenic Cyst
• Classically in the sternal notch
• Can look like a milia, cyst, divot
• Should be removed by a peds ENT or pedsgeneral surgeon
• “Tip of an Iceberg”
Other Neck Cysts in an Infant
• Sternal notch-bronchogenic cyst
• Midline upper neck-thyroglossal duct cyst
• Lateral neck-branchial cleft cyst
Nevus Anemicus
• Somewhat reticular hypopigmented-appearing area. Appears mottled
• Due to slight decrease in superficial cutaneous blood vessels
• Recently described as an association with NF-1
• Typically on the chest
• Very common on the scalp of children
• Frequently biopsied because of somewhat atypical coloring, large size, history of changing
• Often read out as atypical on pathology, but these are known to be completely benign
• Probably a “special site” that isn’t currently recognized as a special site
Eclipse Nevi
Eclipse Nevi
Bed Bugs
• Cause typical bug bite appearance, but often occurs in clusters of 3- “breakfast, lunch and dinner”
• Home needs to be evaluated by a professional exterminating service- no “DIY” projects
• Bed bugs know where to hide; they don’t want to be found
• Come out when CO2 levels in the air indicate that we are asleep
Pilomatricoma
• Subcutaneous firm plaque
• Skin colored and sometimes a bluish hue
• Demonstrates a positive “teeter totter” sign
• 2/3 resolve on their own
• Can be surgically excised
Tinea Corporis
• Corporis
• Ketoconazole 2% cream bid (apply to area and 1 inch around, cont treatment after clinical clearance)
• Oral meds if extensive
• Capitis (presents as redness, scaling and alopecia)
• MUST USE ORAL MEDS
• Griseofulvin 20-25 mg/kg/day divided bid for 6 wks. Must be given with fatty food.
• 2nd line- either itraconazole or lamisil
• It happens!
• Often there is family history
• Evaluate for tinea pedis
• Treat with terbinafine for 3 mos
• <20 kg- 62.5 mg daily (1/4 pill)
• 20-40 kg- 125 mg daily (1/2 pill)
• >40 kg- 250 mg daily
• Itraconazole can be used in a pinch (comes in syrup)
• Pulse dosing
• Liver function tests- to test or not to test
• Griseofulvin doesn’t work
Pediatric Onychomycosis
Pediatric Onychomycosis- Picture
Hyperkeratotic Lichenoid Papules
of the Elbows and Knees
• Very common in kids age 4-12, boys > girls
• Misdiagnosed as flat warts, molluscum, KP
• Probably a variant of KP
• Kids outgrow it
• Could treat it with AmLactin, Cerave SA, etc
Toddler (Infantile) Acne
• Kids age 6 mos- 3 yrs old
• Typically occurs on cheeks
• Small pink papules and pustules
• Sometimes comedones
• Can scar; important to treat
• 1st line- Topical clindamycin
• 2nd line- Topical adapalene
• 3rd line- Oral amoxicillin
Pigmented PurpuricDermatoses
• 5 types of pigmented purpuric dermatoses
• Most common type in kids in studies appears to be Schamberg’s Purpura
• In my clinic, most common type is definitely Lichen Aureus
Pigmented PurpuricDermatoses
• Idiopathic
• These conditions present with petechial lesions (often pediatricians will panic)
• Schaumberg’s purpura looks like specks of cayenne pepper
• Lichen Aureus looks like petechiae in a gold-brown patch
• Treatment is difficult, but it resolves on its own eventually
• Topical steroids and UV light might help
Lichen Aureus
• Lesions overlying lumbosacral spinal cord can indicate a problem underneath- tethered cord, meningocele, tumor
Pediatric Spots-Lumbosacral Dysraphism
• >2 cutaneous stigmata
• Lipoma
• Acrochordon/pseudotail/tail
• Aplasia cutis
• Dermoid cyst or dermal sinus
• Infantile hemangioma > 2.5 cm in size
• Must do an MRI
Pediatric Spots- Lumbosacral
Dysraphism- HIGH RISK
• Intermediate• Atypical dimple (> 5 mm)• Hemangioma less than 2.5 cm in size• Hypertrichosis• Can do ultrasound if child < 3mos old, MRI if older than 3
mos old
• Low• Simple dimple• Hyperpigmentation/hypopigmentation• Congenital nevus• Port wine stain• No imaging needed
Pediatric Spots- Lumbosacral Dysraphism-
Intermediate and Low Risk
A Couple of Tricky “Nubbins”
Jan 2016- Mom’s Photo
Sept 2016- 1st visit
1st Visit
• Ordered an MRI stat
• Ddx- vascular (atypical hemangioma, AVM), neoplasm
• MRI results showed findings consistent with a hemangioma
• Started the patient on Propranolol
Nov 2016
Biopsy
• Pathology revealed DFSP
• Pt underwent excision in 2 stages
• Considered pre treatment with Gleevac but the stain for the 9,22 translocation was negative
Initial History
• Rash was noticed for about 6 wks
• Asymptomatic
• OTC remedies had not been helpful
• History of episodes of constipation and diarrhea but no significant abdominal pain, no blood in stool, no hospitalizations for symptoms
• Family was using bubble baths, fab soft, dryer sheets, Gain detergent
Initial visit
• Attempted treatment for contact dermatitis with sensitive skin care and hydrocortisone 2.5 ointment
• No improvement
• Attempted treatment for yeast with econazolecream bid
• No improvement
Biopsy Under Anesthesia
• Punch biopsy showed granulomatous dermatitis c/w cutaneous Crohn’s
• Patient was referred to peds GI for GI eval which questioned the diagnosis of Crohn’s• Labs were normal
• Didn’t want to scope her
• Presented patient at Colorado Grand Rounds and every dermatologist agreed with me
• Treated with clobetasol bid x 3 wks and it cleared
• Now will just see what happens
“These people are members of a community that care about
where they live. So what I hear when I’m being yelled at is
people caring loudly at me.” –Leslie Knope, Parks and Rec
A Quick Thought on Burnout and “Mindfulness”
“Life moves pretty fast. If you don’t stop and look
around once in a while, you could miss it.”
-Ferris Bueller
• Putting down your juggling balls for a little bit
• Embrace the beauty of monotasking
• Paying attention in a particular way: on purpose, in the present moment, and nonjudgementally
Mindfulness Defined
• Take a second to notice things
• Raisin
• Fingers
• Start a “Gratitude” journal
• Write down 2 or 3 things every night that you are grateful for that day
High Yield Mindfulness Tidbits
• Anything that lets you “zone out” for a little bit
• Meditation- apps that help teach a “non-hippy” how to meditate• Headspace
• Calm
• Fly fishing
• Tai Chi
• Yoga
• Adult coloring books
Mindfulness Activities
• Breathe
• Music can change your mood quicker than anything
• Make yourself different playlists
• You can’t give what you don’t have
• Think of yourself as a car. You need to fill up your tank once in a while to keep running
• Make time for the things that refill your tank
High Yield Burnout Tips