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    NewtsletterNumber44,October2008This is yournewsletter so feel free to write, e-mail or phone if you are moved to make a

    contribution, or if there is some topic you would like us to cover. As editor I will always

    be pleased to hear from you, though space in the newsletter is neccessarily limited.

    Patrick Roper, South View, Churchland Lane, Sedlescombe, East Sussex TN33 0PF.

    Tel: 01424 870993 and 870208, e-mail: [email protected]

    For breaking news and topical features go the SARG weblog:

    http://sussexamphibianandeptilegroup.blogspot.com

    FromtheChair

    DearAll,hadthehonourofbeingvotedinasthenewSARGChairattherecentAGM. I

    also

    wouldimaginethateachofmypredecessorsaschairofSARGhave'takenup

    stwishestoyouall,nrinriBrocklebank,SARGChair

    IhaveworkedcloselywithSARGformanyyearsthroughmyworkattheSussexBiodiversityRecordCentre,soIcometotherolewithareasonablefamiliaritywiththeissuesandconcernsthatalocalARGfaces. IamhopingthatbecauseofmyinvolvementwithSussexWildlifeTrustwecantryandenhancetheopportunitiesforSARGandSWTtoworkcloselytogetheroncourses,eventsandpublicity.Ithebeard'withideasofwhattheywouldliketoseedevelopedoverthecomingmonthsandyears. Forme,somewhatpredictably,IwouldliketopromoterecordingamongsttheSARGmembers,butalsotodevelopopportunitiesformemberstogetinvolvedinAmphibianandReptilerecordingandconservationprojects.IwantSARGmembershiptoofferloadsofopportunitiesforgettingoutandaboutlookingatherps. Allofthisexcitingstuffoncewehavegotthemoredrytopicsofconstitutionsandhealthandsafetydoneanddusted!!BeHeHe

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    Editorial

    Battlesoverdevelopmenthavecontinuedthroughmuchofthepastyearwiththeconservationof

    reptilesandamphibiansoftenconflictingwiththestatedneedformorenewand,particularly,

    affordablehomes(thoughthethreatmayhaverecededsomewhatduringthecurrenteconomic

    problems).

    SARGhasoftenbeeninvolved. InUckfield,for

    example,wherethereareproposalsforlarge

    housingdevelopmentsatDownlandsFarmon

    thewesternsideofthetownandBirdinEyeHill

    ontheeasternside,severalSARGmembers

    havegivenevidenceatthepublicinquiry,

    particularlyinregardtoDownlandswhichhas

    threereptileandfiveamphibianspecies

    includinggreatcrestednewts,andmuch

    informationhasbeensuppliedbymembersof

    herpetileactivityinthegeneralarea.

    Remember to sendin your 2008 records

    Records of reptiles and amphibians in

    Sussex are important. So that they can befully available to SARG and other

    conservationists, send them to:

    Sussex Biodiversity Record Centre,

    Woods Mill, Henfield, West Sussex BN5

    9SD, phone 01273 497554 or 01273

    497521. Or e-mail them to

    [email protected]

    SARGmemberswhogaveexpertevidenceto

    theinquiry,whichisongoing,includedProfessor

    TrevorBeebeefromtheUniversityofSussex,

    oursurveysofficerBarryKemp,andmyself,

    PatrickRopereditorofthisnewsletter. Being

    publiclycrossexamined,oftenbyseveral

    barristers,isnotmuchfunbutitisimportant

    thatourvoiceisheardandthatbalanced

    judgementsaremadeonbehalfofourSussex

    amphibiansandreptiles.

    Theitemsbelowillustratesomeoftheissues.

    Newdesresfornewts

    FromtheSussexExpress,22October2007

    AnewpondhasbeencreatedfortheprotectedspeciesonlandatOwlsburyOastinHadlowDown

    Road,Crowborough,aspartofan840,000schemetobuildanewwaterpipelineinthearea. The

    new"development"willprovideaperfecthabitatfortheGreatCrestedNewtswhicharethoughtto

    alreadypopulateotherpondsinthearea.

    NowSouthEastWatercontractorshavefinishedbuildingthepond,itwillbehandedoverto

    residentandFarmManagerPhilipFermortomanage. GrahamWebb,InfrastructureDevelopment

    ManageratSouthEastWater,said:GreatCrestedNewtsareaprotectedspeciessowhileour

    pipelineroutespecificallyavoidedtheirbreedingareas,wewerekeentocreateanimprovedhabitat

    nearbytohelpimprovetheirchancesofcolonisation. Duringthisimportantschemewe'veworked

    hardtoensureconstructionandconservationgohandinhand,whichiswhywe'redelightedthe

    farmmanagerhasalsopositivelyembracedtheideaofanewpondandweareconfidentitwill

    thriveunderhisstewardship.

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    PhilipFermor,whoisalsoDeputyMayoronCrowboroughTownCouncil,said:'Whilethispipelineis

    clearlyessentialforthecommunityandforthevillageofRotherfield,wearepleasedSouthEast

    Waterisalsocontributingtothewidercommunityanditsenvironmentwiththeinstallationofthis

    pond,asitwillhelpprotectanddevelopanimportanthabitatforendangerednativespecies.'

    The

    area

    around

    the

    pond

    will

    be

    allowed

    to

    develop

    into

    rough

    grassland

    and

    scrub

    so

    it

    merges

    withtheancientwoodlandclosebytoprovidetherighthabitatforGreatCrestedNewts. Native

    plantswillalsobeintroducedtoencouragethenewtstobreednextspring.

    FromGreenBuilding,10September2008RegenerationagencyEnglishPartnershipsproposeddevelopmentatGraylingwellhospitalin

    Chichestercouldcausealotofhomelessness fortheslowwormswhocurrentlyliveonthesite.

    However,luckilyfortheleglesslizardstheNationalTrusthassteppedinwithanofferof

    accommodation,whichisalsoamodelofhabitatregeneration.In2001LavingtonPlantationwas

    donatedtotheNationalTrustontheconditionthatitwasrestoredtolowlandheath.Now,itisin

    such

    good

    condition

    it

    has

    been

    chosen

    as

    the

    perfect

    location

    to

    re

    home

    the

    hundreds

    of

    slow

    wormswhichwillbedisplacedbythebuildingwork.

    DeveloperexplainsworkatSeafordDip

    FromTheMid SussexTimes,23October2007

    Aspokesmanforadeveloperhashitbackatclaimsthathisclienthasdestroyedauniquewildsitein

    SeafordknownasTheDip.

    PeoplelivingneartheareainHawthValleysayitsseveralacresoflandandadeeppondareavital

    breedingareaforprotectedspecies. ButplannerAlanEdgar,whospeaksforthelandownerand

    developerJohnRigden,saidtheresponsefromlocalresidentswas'atypicalNIMBYreaction'. 'My

    clienthasclearedthesitebuthehasdoneitinaveryresponsibleandecologicallyconcernedway.

    Hehasdonenothingillegal.'

    Hesaidslowwormsandevenratshadbeencaughtproperlyandmoved. MrEdgarsaidhewouldbe

    drawingupplansfor16housestoincludesomeaffordablehomesandanecologyparkwouldbe

    proposedatthebottomofthesite.

    TheDipisconnectedbyatunnelundertherailwaylinetotheOldBrickfieldsiteofnature

    conservationinterest.Thisareaisalsoahavenforprotectedspecies,includinghedgehogs,slow

    worms,grasssnakes,lizardsandtoads,whichusethetunneltoreachthepondinTheDip.

    CampaignerssayanylossofspeciesherewouldthereforeaffectwildlifeintheBrickfield

    conservationarea.StephenPlastow,aresidentwhoisleadingthecampaign,saidtwoprevious

    planningapplicationsforTheDipwereturneddownfollowingobjectionsconcerningthewildlifeand

    conservationvalueoftheland.

    'Iflefttorecover,however,thelandwouldverysoonreturntoitsfullwildlifeandconservation

    potential,andtheprotectedspeciessorecentlyevictedwouldreturn,'hesaid.

    Itislikelythatthedeveloperwillapplyforplanningpermissiontobuildflats,houses,garagesand

    anaccessroadontheslopeabovethepond.Atthisstage,weareurgingpeopletoexpresstheir

    concern. ConstructionworkandotherhumanactivityonTheDipwillpermanentlydestroywildlife

    anddriveawayshyprotectedspecies,saidMrPlastow

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    SOMEEVENTS

    ARGUKSouthEastRegionalMeeting. Saturday15thNovember2008

    MarwellZoologicalPark,nearWinchester,Hampshire

    COST7. Bookingessential. Lightrefreshmentswillbeprovidedbutpleasebringlunch

    ForfurtherinformationortobookpleasecontactNatalieRogersTel01489774406,

    [email protected],postHampshire&IsleofWightWildlifeTrust,BeechcroftHouse,

    VicarageLane,Curdridge,Hampshire,SO302NS.

    PleasemakechequespayabletoHampshire&IsleofWightWildlifeTrust.

    SymposiumontheGlobalAmphibianExtinctionCrisis

    TheLinneanSociety,withProfessorGordonMcGregorReidoftheNorthofEnglandZoological

    SocietyandDrLesleyDickieofthe ZoologicalSocietyofLondon,areorganisingaoneday

    symposiumontheabovetopic on6th

    November2008attheLinneanSocietyofLondon,Burlington

    House,Piccadilly,LondonW1.

    TheprogrammepointsoutthatTheworldsamphibiansarefacinganuncertainfuture. Uptoa

    thirdarethreatenedwithextinction,whilehalfofallspeciesareindecline.Whilethemajorityof

    threatstofrogsandtheirrelativesarewelldocumentedinotherspeciesarecentlyidentified

    amphibianspecificfungaldisease,Batrachochytriumdendrobatadis(Bd),isthemostimmediate

    driverofamphibianextinctionglobally.Thissymposiumwilldetailthedeclinesandpossible

    solutions.

    AllLinneanSocietymeetingsareopentothepublicaswellasmembersoftheorganisation.

    Registrationis25(15forstudents)andincludesthe program,lunchandcoffee/teabreaks.

    Furtherdetails:www.linnean.org/index.php?id=135

    YearoftheFrog2008

    HavealookattheAmphibianArkwebsite:

    http://www.amphibianark.org/

    BredeHighWoods

    Attheendof2007theWoodlandTrustacquiredBredeHighWoodsintheparishesofSedlescombe,

    BredeandEwhurstGreennorthofHastings,EastSussex. ThisistheirlargestpropertyinEngland

    andcontainsopenheathland,acidgrasslandandavarietyofpondsandstreamsaswellasancient

    broadleavedwoodsandconiferplantations.

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    Sofartherehavebeenrecordsofallthreeofournewtspecies,frogsandtoads,slowwormsand

    commonlizards,addersandgrasssnakes,soitisafirstclassherpetilesite.

    Itisopenatalltimesandaccess,asusualwiththeWoodlandTrust,isfree. Detailshere:

    http://www.wtwoods.org.uk/BredeHighWoods

    Howcanwehelpslowworms,grasssnakesandhedgehogs

    onbonfirenight?

    ByTerryNutkins,TheGuardian,5November2007

    InearlyNovember,manyanimalswanttogointohibernation hedgehogsbutalsocreaturessuchas

    slowwormsandgrasssnakes.Shelteredfromthewindandtherain,theycrawlintowarmanddry

    pilesofwood. Theunlitbonfireisanoasisformanyanimalsinthewinterbutwhenallthose

    fireworknightbonfiresarelitonNovember5,theyaresuddenlyburnedtodeath.

    Mostcommunitiesstartbuildingtheirbonfiresmanyweeksahead. Itwouldbemuchbettertopile

    themupatthelastminute. Itisincrediblytemptingtobeginpilingwoodupearlybutifitcanbe

    storedsomewhereandmovedintoplaceonthedaythiscouldsavemanyanimal'slives.

    Ifabonfirehasbeensittinginthesamespotfordays,organisersworriedaboutkillinghedgehogs

    aswellassmalleranimalssuchasfrogsandtoadswhichhavehoppedandcrawledin could

    assembleagroupofvolunteersandsimplymoveallthewood20maway.Itwouldn'ttakelongandit

    wouldgivetheanimalsachancetoescape.

    Youshouldalsoconsiderthesitingofyourbonfiretominimisetherisktowildlife placeitinopen

    groundwellawayfromindigenoustrees,whichcangetburnedorscorchedbytheheat.

    Fireworksareanotherproblemaltogetheralthoughtheymostlyaffectdogs,catsandlivestocksuch

    ascattleandsheep.Keepingpetsindoorsisessentialandifyouleavethetelevisionon,orplaysome

    music,thatcanhelpmufflethecracksandbangs.

    MykidsaregoingtothevillagefireworkdisplaybutI'llstayinwithmyblacklabrador,Sloopy.She

    shakesandgoesintoaterriblestatewhenshehearsanykindofbang.I'llcomfortherandstrokeher

    andmakesureshefeelssecure.

    IfitwasuptomeIwouldbanfireworksandbigbonfires.

    Foreigngoldfishbringdeathtoourfrogs

    FromtheDailyTelegraph,11November2007

    Thehumblegoldfishisbeingblamedforspreadingadeadlyvirusthathaswipedouttensof

    thousandsoffrogsinBritain. FishimportedfrombreedingfarmsintheUnitedStatesarebelievedto

    beinfectedwithRedLegdisease,avirusthatcausesfrogs'limbstowasteawayandleadstotheir

    bleedingtodeath.NowamajorEuropeanprojectisinvestigatinghowtheinternationaltradein

    ornamentalfishiscausingthedevastatingdiseasetospread.

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    DrAndrewCunningham,fromtheZoologicalSocietyofLondonwhohasbeeninvestigatingthe

    disease,said:"Oneofthemostcommonfactorsthathasbeenassociatedwiththevirusinfrogswas

    deathsingoldfish,sothereisanepidemiologicallink.Goldfishmightbecarriersofthisvirus

    RedLegdisease,namedaftertheredsoresitproducesonfrogs'legsbeforetheydie,was

    introducedfromtheUnitedStatesnearlyadecadeagobutuntilrecentlyhadbeenconfinedto

    south

    east

    England.

    Scientists

    now

    claim

    it

    has

    begun

    spreading

    west

    and

    north.

    WhilethevirushasbeenfoundtobeharmfultoBritain'spopulationofcommonfrogs,itisalso

    thoughttoinfectotheramphibianssuchasthecommontoadandnewt.

    DrBarryHill,oftheCentreforFisheries,EnvironmentandAquacultureScienceattheDepartment

    forEnvironment,FoodandRuralAffairs,said:"Wehavefoundthatalmostwithoutexception,the

    virusispresentinthedeadfrogswearetesting.Itisthoughtthatthepettradeisthemainrouteof

    entryforthisvirus."

    LucyBenyon,wildlifeinformationofficeratconservationcharityFroglife,said:"Itcanbealarmingfor

    peopletofindupto20frogsatatimedeadintheirgardensandwesometimeshavepeoplecontactingusintears."

    OriginallybredfromChineseCruciancarpinthe11thcentury,thegoldfishwasintroducedtoEurope

    inthe17thcenturyandisnowthemostcommonlykeptaquariumfish.

    Contrarytopopularmyth,theyhavememoryspansofatleastthreemonths.

    Frogproofskimmer

    AningeniousAmerican,BrianMeagher,fromYorkinMaine,USA,hasinventedafrogproof

    swimmingpoolskimmerthatishelpingtosavethelivesofmanyofouramphibianfriends. Apool

    skimmer(asifyoudidntknow)isadevicethatdrawsinthesurfacewaterofapoolandpullsin

    leavesandotherfloatingdebris,includingamphibians,throughasmallcollectingbaskettostopit

    goingintothepump.

    Thenewdeviceconsistsofaspiralescaperamp(justlikethoseinsomemultistoreycarparks)that

    hangsdownbeneaththewater. Meagherreckonsatleast10millionfrogscouldbesavedintheUSA

    everyyearthroughthisCritterSkimmerashehasbrandedit.

    Notallbadnews

    FromNewScientist5June2008

    Frogsandotheramphibiansimperiledbyaworldwideepidemicofthechytridfungusmightbe

    sparedbecauseofthebacterialivingontheirskin.NewresearchsuggeststhatPanamanianfrogs

    withtherightmixofprobioticskinbacteriaseemtobeimmunefromthechytridfungus,blamedby

    someforaglobaldieoffinamphibianpopulations.

    JeniferBanningandReidHarris,fromJamesMadisonUniversityinHarrisonburg,Virginia,swabbed

    theskinofseveralspeciesoffrogslivingthroughoutPanama.UponreturntotheUS,theresearchers

    identifiedandgrewupsomeofthefrogskinbacteria.

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    Severalofthestrainsdestroyedchytridfungusinthelab.Andfrogpopulationsthathadthese

    bacteriatendedtohavelowerratesofchytridinfection,Banning'steamfound.

    Theliteraryherpetile

    IrecentlyreadthehighlyregardedManandtheNaturalWorld. ChangingattitudesinEngland1500

    1800byKeithThomas,publishedin1983(PenguinBooks,London). Heexplainshowmanyofour

    currentattitudestonaturedevelopedandthereareseveralinterestingreferencestoherpetiles:

    Thefrog,saidBishopBabington,is,asweallknow,afoulandfilthycreature,abidinginfoul

    places,asbogsandmiryplashes,allthedaylong,andatnightpeepingoutwiththeheadabove

    thewater,makingahatefulnoisewithmanyothersofhissorttillthedayappearagain.

    ThomasPennantreportsthatin1768oneDevonshiregentryhouseholdhadbeenkeepinga

    tametoadasthefamilypetforthepastthirtysixyears. Hecommendedthegoodsenseofthe

    familywhichsoaredaboveallvulgarprejudices,andnotedthatevenladiessofarconquered

    thehorrorsinstilledintothembynursesastodesiretoseeit.

    Intheseventeenthcenturyitbecameincreasinglycommontomaintainthatnatureexistedfor

    Godsgloryandthathecaredasmuchforthewelfareofplantsandanimalsasforman. And

    duringtheCivilWarthereweresectarieswhotookthisviewtoitslogicalconclusion. Godloves

    creaturesthatcreeponthegroundaswellasthebestsaints,saidone,andthereisno

    differencebetweenthefleshofamanandthefleshofatoad.

    Wedisputein[the]schools,wroteJohnBulwerin1653,whether,ifitwerepossibleformanto

    doso,itwerelawfulforhimtodestroyanyonespeciesofGodscreatures,thoughitwerebut

    thespeciesoftoadsandspiders,becausethisweretakingawayonelinkofGodschain,onenote

    ofhisharmony.

    Goethe,thegreatGermanwriterandpolymath,seemedtoexpressanaversiontotoadsinanearly

    referencetotoadcrossingsinhisSecondOde(1767):

    Temptnogentlenightrambles

    Underthemoon'scoldtwilight!

    Loathsometoadsholdtheirmeetings

    Yonderateverycrossway.

    MaybesomeofthisderivesfromShakespeareslinesinAsyoulikeit:

    Sweetaretheusesofadversity,

    Which,likethetoad,uglyandvenomous,

    Wearsyetapreciousjewelinhishead.

    Asanantidotetothistoadspite,Ienjoyedthisby20thcenturyScottishpoetNormanMacCaig

    Toad

    Stoplookinglikeapurse.Howcouldapurse

    squeezeunderthericketydoorandsit,

    fullofsatisfaction,inaman'shouse?

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    Youclambertowardsmeonyourfourcorners

    righthand,leftfoot,lefthand,rightfoot.

    Iloveyouforbeingatoad,

    forcrawlinglikeaJapanesewrestler,

    andfornotbeingfrightened.

    Iputyouinmypursehand,notshuttingit,

    andsetyoudownoutsidedirectlyunder

    everystar.

    Ajewelinyourhead?Toad,

    you'veputoneinmine,

    atinyradianceinadarkplace.

    Andwhileonthetopicoftoads,Twilight,anAmericancandymanufacturerhasproduceschocolate

    amphibians:Theresdifferentvarietiesofchocolatefrogssomearesolid,othershaverice

    krispiesinside. Butthetoads,thelatestintheline,arefilledwithapeppermintpasteofasort. If

    youlikemarshmallowfluffmixedwithtoothpaste,andcoveredinathinlayerofchocolate,thenyou

    wouldlovepepperminttoads!

    Inbrief

    WasthereonceanamphibianinEssex,thetreetoad, aboutwhichweknowverylittle? 19th

    century

    poetOliverWendellHolmeswroteinTheBroomstickTrain,ortheReturnoftheWitches:

    DuskynooksintheEssexwoods,

    Dark,dim,Dantelikesolitudes,

    Wherethetreetoadwatchesthesinuoussnake

    Glide

    through

    his

    forests

    of

    fern

    and

    brake

    Thereisatreetoad(Nectophryneafra)foundincentralwestAfrica. However,itisadenizenof

    tropicalforestsandunlikelytohavebeenpresentinearlymodernEssex. Theyspendthedayonthe

    ground,andmoveupontothevegetationatnightwheretheynestintreecavitiescontainingwater

    inwhichthetadpolesdevelop.

    ...andfinally

    "Newtsshouldjustberegardedaswildlifeinthesamewayasatoadorafrog." SophieWilkinson,

    spokespersonfortheRSPCA.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foresthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest
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    MinutesoftheAnnualGeneralMeetingoftheSussexAmphibianandReptileGroup

    Sunday1stJune2008WoodsMillat2.00pm

    Apologiesforabsence:PatrickRoper,ZeenaandTonyGibbs,Rowlandand

    AdelaGriffinandLeilaSimpson

    Present: AlfandIrisSimpson,HenriBrocklebank,JennyBacon,LindaBurnham,

    AlanDrummond,BarryKemp,DavidHarris,GeorginaHammond.

    RowlandwillremainasSecretaryuntilnextMay,whenhewillbeoutofthe

    country.

    ChytridsamplingAllresultsinSussexhavebeennegativesofar. Thesecond

    phasecouldbecritical.

    HawthPondSARGhaveknownaboutthissitefor15years. Planshave

    alwaysbeenrejected. Areaaroundpondhasnowbeencleared.Leweshave

    turneddownplanningpermission.

    HastingsCountryParkTherangerswanttomanageforReptiles.

    RefugiatypesRowlandwilldoareport.

    LeafletChangesClareJeffershastheoriginal.

    LauraBristowtobecooptedontotheSARGCommittee

    Election Eachpostwasfilledbytheformalityofaproposerandaseconder.

    JennyBaconToadCrossings

    BarryKempSurveyOfficerHenriBrocklebankChair

    RowlandGriffinSecretary

    PatrickRoperNewtsletterEditor

    AllanDrummond MembershipandTreasurer

    LeilaSimpsonMeetingsSecretary

    RecordDepositorySussexBiodiversityRecordCentre

    MikeElliottAuditor

    EventsLindaBurnham

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    SARGCommitteeMembers&digitalsites

    SARGWebSite

    SARGWeblog

    www.safari.com/reptile

    http://sussexamphibianandeptilegroup.blogspot.com

    Chair

    HenriBrocklebank

    SussexBiodiversityRecordCentre,WoodsMill

    Henfield,WestSussexBN59SD

    Tel:01273 497553

    Email:[email protected]

    ToadCrossingCoordinator

    JennyBacon

    HammondsGreenCottage,HammondsGreen,

    Framfield,EastSussexTN225QH

    Tel:01825890236

    E mail:[email protected]

    Secretary

    RowlandGriffin

    39CalshotClose,Calshot,Southampton,

    HampshireSO451BP

    Tel:07717205072

    Email:[email protected]

    MinutesSecretary

    LeilaSimpson

    20SouthStreet,EastHoathly,

    EastSussexBN86DS

    Tel:01825840714

    Email:[email protected]

    Treasurer&MembershipSecretary

    AlanDrummond

    27YorkRoad,Crawley,WestSussexRH105JS

    Tel:01293535027

    Email:[email protected]

    SurveysOfficer

    BarryKemp

    Amblehurst, NevillRoad,Crowborough,East

    SussexTN62RA

    Tel:01892663942

    Email:[email protected]

    HeathlandForumrep&ArlingtonAdvisory

    CommitteeRep

    AlfSimpsonMBE

    Hardanger,Littleworth,PartridgeGreen,

    Horsham,WestSussexRH138JF

    Tel:01403710694

    Email:[email protected]

    SARGLibrary

    JanetClaydon

    9Kingsway,Seaford,

    EastSussexBN252NE

    Tel:01323492066

    Events

    LindaBurnham

    20PalehouseCommon,Framfield,Uckfield,East

    SussexTN225QY

    Tel:01825890852

    NewsletterEditor

    PatrickRoper

    SouthView,ChurchlandLane,Sedlescombe,

    EastSussexTN330PF

    Tel:01424870993

    Email:[email protected]

    SouthEastWater

    EmmaGoddard

    TheLodge,ArlingtonReservoir,Berwick,

    Polegate,EastSussexBN266TF

    Tel:01323870810Ext23

    Email:[email protected]

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