NFPA Technical Committee on Fire Service Training...let the fire service training committee maintain 1402 as a guide in Fall 2016 cycle until the new committee develops the draft and

NFPA Technical Committee on Fire Service Training

MEETING AGENDA

Tampa, FL

February 26-27, 2015

Chair Richard’s calls meeting to order on February 26, 2015 at 8:00 am.

Invocation.

Welcome and Opening Remarks.

Introduction of attendees.

Approval of the minutes of the February 25-27, 2014, Charlotte, NC meeting. (Attachment A).

Review purpose of meeting and document schedules (Attachment B).

Review public inputs/develop first revision on 1401 and 1403 (Attachment C).

Old business. 1402 (Attachment D) Letter on SCBA to 1981 and 1500 Reorganization

New business.

Date and location of next meeting.

Adjournment.

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ATTACHMENT A

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Technical Committee Fire Service Training

Charlotte, NC

February 25-27, 2014

MINUTES

The meeting was called to order by Chair Richards at 8:00 am.

Invocation by Dan Rossos.

Introduction of Attendees

Members Present:

Kenneth Richards, Chair, Old Mystic Fire Department, CT

Steven Sawyer, NFPA Staff

W. Edward Buchanan, Hanover Fire & EMS, VA

James Cannell, Columbus Ohio Division of Fire, OH

Rick Egelin, Fireblast 451 Inc, CA

William Glover, High Temperature Linings, VA

Larry Hughes, North Carolina Department of Insurance, NC

Roger LeBoeuf, Elliott, LeBoeuf & McElwain, VA

Gordon Lohmeyer, TEEX, TX

Lavern Lucas, Hilton Head Island Fire & Rescue, SC

Daniel Madrzykowski, US National Institute of Standards & Technology, MD

F. Patrick Mariatt, Maryland Fire and Rescue Institute, MD

Brent Norwine, CAL-FIRE/Riverside County FD, CA

William Peterson, IFMA, TX

Robert Raheb, FAAC, Inc., NY

Daniel Rossos, Oregon Department of Public Safety Standards & Training,

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Daniel Shaw, Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Department, MD

Gary Simpson, E.D. Bullard Company, KY

Steven Weinstein, Honeywell Safety Products

Phil Welch, Gastonia Fire Department, NC

Steven Williamson, UTC/Kidde Fire Trainers, Inc., NJ

Corey Wilson, Portland Fire & Rescue, OR

Michael Young, Volunteer Firemen’s Insurance Services, Inc., PA

David Britton, Alternate, Hilton Head Island Fire & Rescue, SC

Derrick Clouston, Alternate, North Carolina Department of Insurance, NC

Roland Fredrickson, Alternate, City of Corona FD, CA

Chris Hubbard, Alternate, Hanover Fire Ems Department, WA

Mark Rutherford, Alternate, Gastonia FD, NC

Guests Present:

Roxanne Bercik, IFSTA, OR

Beverly Gulledge, Scott Safety

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Members not present:

Wesley Barbour, Crossbar International LLC, NY

John Brown, Nassau County Fire Services Academy, NY

Mike Gagliano, Seattle FD, WA

Cortez Lawrence, US Department of Homeland Security, MD

Kevin Munson, West Hartford Fire Department, CT

Ryan O’Donnell, BullEx Inc., NY

James Podolske, US Department of the Air Force, FL

Michael Wieder, Voting Alternate, Fire Protection Publications, OK

Adam Barowy, Alternate, NIST, MD

John Blackburn, Alternate, BullEx Inc., NY

William Jenaway, Alternate, VFIS, Inc., PA

Jeremy Jones, Alternate, Elliott, Leboeuf & McElwain, PA

Steven Luftig, Alternate, UTC/Kidde Fire Trainers, Inc., NJ

Douglas Mitchell, Alternate, Fire Department City of New York, NY

Denis Onieal, Alternate, US Department of Homeland Security, MD

Ron Peddy, Alternate, Texas Engineering Extension Service, TX

Michael Yacovino, Alternate, Canton Fire Marshal Office, CT

Motion made, seconded and accepted to approval of the minutes of the February 25-

27, 2013 San Diego, CA meeting.

Chief Phil Welch, Chief Hanna and Chief Gordon of Charlotte FD made opening

and welcoming remarks.

The purpose of meeting and document schedules was reviewed.

Second revisions were developed and public comments acted on for 13E, 1408, 1410

and 1452, see Second Drafts. First revisions were developed for 1405, see First

Draft.

Old business.

Task Group Reports

1402 – Discussion was held on the standards council decision. Motion made, seconded and approved to make 1402 a standard to

address building issues and gas props and give responsibility of

development to a new committee.

Motion made, seconded and approved to ask the standards council to

let the fire service training committee maintain 1402 as a guide in Fall

2016 cycle until the new committee develops the draft and enters cycle.

Gas Props – See 1402 discussion. Letter to 1981 and 1500 – Dan gave an update on the letter sent to

1981 and 1500. The TIA to 1404 has been held up waiting for

direction.

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Communication training standard – Cory gave an update on the new radio standard. No action is needed at this time.

New business.

Reorganization – discussed the issue of looking at reorganization of the project.

A presentation on Live Fire Training was made by Brent. 1401, 1402 and 1403 Task Groups should begin looking at their

documents for the next meeting.

The next meeting will be held on February 24-25, 2015 in Fort Lauderdale, FL.

The meeting adjourned on February 26, 2014 at 1:45 pm.

Respectfully Submitted,

Steven F. Sawyer

Staff Liaison

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ATTACHMENT B

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2016 FALL REVISION CYCLE *Public Input Dates may vary according to standards and schedules for Revision Cycles may change. Please check the NFPA Website for the most up‐to‐date information on Public Input Closing Dates and schedules at

www.nfpa.org/document # (i.e. www.nfpa.org/101) and click on the Next Edition tab.

Process Stage

Process Step

Dates for TC

Dates forTC with

CC Public Input Closing Date* 1/5/15 1/5/15 Final Date for TC First Draft Meeting 6/15/15 3/16/15

Public Input Posting of First Draft and TC Ballot 8/3/15 4/27/15 Stage Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot 8/24/15 5/18/15

(First Draft) Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot ‐ recirc 8/31/15 5/25/15 Posting of First Draft for CC Meeting 6/1/15 Final date for CC First Draft Meeting 7/13/15 Posting of First Draft and CC Ballot 8/3/15 Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot 8/24/15 Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot ‐ recirc 8/31/15 Post First Draft Report for Public Comment 9/7/15 9/7/15

Public Comment closing date 11/16/15 11/16/15 Final Date to Publish Notice of Consent Standards (Standards that

received no Comments) 11/30/15 11/30/15

Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards (Standards that received no Comments)

12/14/15 12/14/15

Final date for TC Second Draft Meeting 5/2/16 1/25/16 Comment Posting of Second Draft and TC Ballot 6/13/16 3/7/16 Stage Final date for Receipt of TC Second Draft ballot 7/5/16 3/28/16

(Second Final date for receipt of TC Second Draft ballot ‐ recirc 7/11/16 4/4/16 Draft) Posting of Second Draft for CC Meeting 4/11/16

Final date for CC Second Draft Meeting 5/23/16 Posting of Second Draft for CC Ballot 6/13/16 Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot 7/5/16 Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot ‐ recirc 7/11/16 Post Second Draft Report for NITMAM Review 7/18/16 7/18/16

Tech Session Notice of Intent to Make a Motion (NITMAM) Closing Date 8/22/16 8/22/16 Preparation Posting of Certified Amending Motions (CAMs) and Consent

Standards 10/17/16 10/17/16

(& Issuance) Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards 11/1/16 11/1/16 SC Issuance Date for Consent Standards 11/11/16 11/11/16

Tech Session Association Meeting for Standards with CAMs 6/4‐7/17 6/4‐7/17

Appeals and Appeal Closing Date for Standards with CAMs 6/27/17 6/27/17 Issuance SC Issuance Date for Standards with CAMs 8/10/17 8/10/17

Approved___ October 30, 2012 Revised________________________

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ATTACHMENT C

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1401

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Public Input No. 3-NFPA 1401-2013 [ Section No. 1.1.2 ]

1.1.2 Fire service organizations utilizing this document for the establishment, upgrade, or evaluation of theirtraining records and report systems should be able to document clearly the performance and ability ofindividual and group activities related to the following:

(1) Compliance with personnel performance standards

(2) Documentation of both internally and externally obtained career development training and education

(3) Documentation for the purposes of certification and recertification , recertification, licensure andrelicensure.

(4) Documentation for the purposes of accreditation through such agencies as the Commission on FireAccreditation International (CFAI) and other such organizations

(5) Cooperation with other agencies with which the organization executes joint specialty operations (e.g.,emergency medical services)

(6) Training required by regulatory and/or other agencies [e.g., Occupational Safety and HealthAdministration (OSHA), International Standards Organization (ISO) and Insurance Services Office]

(7) Training required to provide emergency medical care (e.g., first responder, emergency medicaltechnician, first aid, cardiopulmonary resuscitation, automatic external defibrillations)

(8) Training and certifications for participations in regional, state, and national response teams (e.g.,urban search and rescue teams, disaster medical assistance teams, disaster mortuary operationalteams, incident management teams, and National Wildfire Coordination Group teams)

(9) Equivalent training or experiential learning used to provide an alternative credit for department, local,state, or national training requirements, specifically comparing the experiences being accepted to thetraining requirements being set aside

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input

Licensure is similar but different from certification and should also be called out in the list of items that are appropriate to document.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Anthony ApfelbeckOrganization: Altamonte Springs Building/Fire Safety DivisionStreet Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Tue Nov 19 19:56:58 EST 2013

National Fire Protection Association Report http://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPara...

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Public Input No. 5-NFPA 1401-2013 [ New Section after 4.2.1 ]

Quality Control4.2.1.1 The organization should establish a quality control oversight system to review training records foraccuracy.


Quality control of training records management is important to maintain credibility and accuracy of the training program.




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4.2.2 These documents should relay to the reader at least five specific elements of information as follows (seeAnnex B for examples of training record forms):

(1) Who

(a) Who was the instructor?

(b) Who participated?

(c) Who was in attendance?

(d) Who is affected by the documents?

(e) Who was included in the training (individuals, company, multi-company, or organization)?

(2) What

(a) What was the subject covered?

(b) What equipment was utilized?

(c) What operation was evaluated or affected?

(d) What was the stated objective, and was it met?

(e) What was the length of the training?

(3) When

(a) When will the training take place? or

(b) When did the training take place?

(4) Where

(a) Where will the training take place? or

(b) Where did the training take place?

(5) Why

(a) Why is the training necessary? or

(b) Why did the training occur?


The length of the training is important to document. Was the training session one hour or eight hours? The length of the training is required in order for most third party organizations to recognize the training and provide credit for certification, recertification or evaluation.




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Public Records Requests7.1.1.1 A policy should be developed to address how public records requests are processed in theorganization to ensure privacy laws and public records disclosure laws are complied with by theorganziation.7.1.1.2. Current employees should be notified of any public records requests that are made of their trainingrecords.


Compliance and noncompliance with public records requests can be an issue of high sensitivity for employees, the agency and citizens in addition to creating liability exposure. The department should establish a policy as to how these requests are dealt with in order to limit exposure. In addition, a current employee should be notified if a public records request is filed to see an employees training records.




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7.1.3 Length of Time for Keeping Records or Reports.7.1.3.1* Legal counsel should be contacted concerning the length of time records or reports, or both, need to bekept available and documented in a records retention schedule. [See Figure B.1(m) for a sample schedule.]7.1.3.2 Documents should be maintained for a period of time as specified by law or as required by certain agenciesand organizations.

7.1.3.3 A record of documents disposed of in compliance with the records retention schedule should bekept.


As records are disposed of, the agency should document the records disposal process to show compliance with the adopted schedule and respond to any potential litigation. Example: Training records for the year 1995 were disposed of on January 15th 2006 after the mandatory 10 year retention. Destruction was completed by shredding methods accomplished by employee X.




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1403

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1.2.1 The purpose of this standard shall be to provide a process for conducting live fire training evolutions toensure that they are conducted in safe in appropriate facilities and that the exposure to health and safetyhazards for the fire fighters receiving the training is minimized.


Safe is not measurable. Like other training guidelines and standards safe has been removed.


Submitter Full Name: Brent NorwineOrganization: CAL-FIRE/Riverside County FireStreet Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Sat Nov 01 09:37:21 EDT 2014


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1.2.2 Live fire training is intended to provide the safest and best experience possible under both realistic andcontrolled circumstances.


safest is not measurable. All training guidelines and standards have had this removed.


Submitter Full Name: Brent NorwineOrganization: CAL-FIRE/Riverside County FireStreet Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Sat Nov 01 09:46:06 EDT 2014


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TITLE OF NEW CONTENT -New definition:Type your content here ...

3.3.XX Hyperthermic - An environment with a temperature above approximately 40°C (104° F).


Hyperthermic is not currently defined in NFPA 1403


Submitter Full Name: William PetersonOrganization: [ Not Specified ]Affilliation: International Fire Marshals AssociationStreet Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Wed Dec 10 14:56:51 EST 2014


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3.3. 22 Specialized Training Environment.Environment using live fire where advanced, specialized training is conducted that relates to firedynamics, rapid intervention, and thermal imaging.3.3. 23 Student.

Any person who is present at the live fire training evolution for the purpose of receiving training.


Adding the definition will clarify what environments are considered to encompass Specialized Training Environments. This will be necessary if the new chapter on special training environments is added to the standard.


Submitter Full Name: Derrick CloustonOrganization:Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Sat Jan 03 13:43:15 EST 2015


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Public Input No. 22-NFPA 1403-2014 [ Section No. 4.3 ]

4.3 Student Prerequisites.4.3.1* Prior to being permitted to participate in live fire training evolutions, the student shall have received trainingto meet the minimum job performance requirements for Fire Fighter I in NFPA 1001, Standard for FireFighter Professional Qualifications, related to the following subjects:

(1) Safety

(2) Fire behavior

(3) Portable extinguishers

(4) Personal protective equipment

(5) Ladders

(6) Fire hose, appliances, and streams

(7) Overhaul

(8) Water supply

(9) Ventilation

(10) Forcible entry

(11) Building construction


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4.3.2*


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Students participating in a live fire training evolution who have received the required minimum training fromother than the AHJ shall not be permitted to participate in any live fire training evolution without firstpresenting prior written evidence of having successfully completed the prescribed minimum training to thelevels specified in 4.3.1.

Replace the current section 4.3 with the following:

4.3 Participant Live Fire Training Prerequisites

4.3.1 Prior to being permitted to participate in live fire training evolutions, all participants shall havereceived training to meet the

(1) Live Fire Introductory training

All participants shall be given classroom training that will enable them to:

Recognize the need for an in-depth theoretical and practical knowledge of fire behavior for safe firesuppression operations.

Understand the underlying concept of compartment fire behavior training as a basis for safe firesuppression operations.

(2) Health and Safety


Recognize the physiological stress that results from working in protective clothing and SCBA in ahyperthermic environment

Understand the rationale and need for medical monitoring during physiologically stressful trainingoperations.

(3) Fundamentals of Fire Behavior


Describe the basic chemical and physical processes involved in combustion.

Explain fire phenomena using the fire triangle and tetrahedron as simple models of combustion.

Explain basic concepts of thermal dynamics, including: thermal energy, temperature, and methodsof heat transfer.

Describe the combustion process for gaseous, liquid, and solid fuels.

Explain the concepts of heat of combustion and heat release rate.

Describe the influence of the fuel/oxygen mixture on combustion.

Explain the concept of chemical chain reaction as it relates to flaming combustion.

Recognize characteristics of common types of combustion products.

Be able to use terminology related to combustion and fire dynamics.

(4) Fire Development in a Compartment


Describe the general development of a fire and extension beyond a single room or compartment,including: Heat transfer methods, pressurization within the space, stages of fire development andtransition from fuel controlled to ventilation controlled combustion

Identify building factors influencing fire development.

Explain the concepts of fire load and ventilation profile

Explain the significance of the transition from a contents fire to a structural fire

Be able to use terminology related to fire development, including: plume, ceiling jet, hot gas layer,neutral plane, air track and gravity current.

Explain the impact of the following factors on fire development in a compartment: Type of fuel,availability and locations of additional fuel, volume of the compartment, ceiling height, size, number,and arrangement of ventilation openings, and thermal properties of the enclosure (insulation)

(5) Nozzle Techniques & Door Entry


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All participants shall be given classroom and hands-on training that will enable them to:

Identify and describe factors influencing the effectiveness of extinguishment by cooling

Describe the application of indirect attack, direct attack, and 3D gas cooling

Demonstrate the nozzle techniques for pulsing, penciling, and painting

Recognize key door entry size-up and dynamic risk assessment factors

Understand how integrated door control and gas cooling reduce the risk of extreme fire behaviorduring door entry

Demonstrate effective door entry procedures

(6) Extreme Fire Behavior (Classroom)

All participants shall be given classroom and hands-on training that will enable them to:

Recognize the hazards presented by extreme fire behavior

Explain how the following three extreme fire behavior phenomena occur: Flashover, backdraft,smoke explosion.

Explain the influence of changes in ventilation profile in each of the following burning regimes: Fuelcontrolled and ventilation controlled.

Differentiate between the following: Ventilation, unplanned ventilation, tactical ventilation, andtactical anti-ventilation.

Recognize the significance of fire behavior indicators in each of the following categories: Building,smoke, air track, heat, and flame

(7) Live Fire Behavior Observation

Prior to participating in a live fire evolution, all participants shall be exposed to observing fire behavior in acontrolled environment, and be able to:

Describe anticipated fire behavior based on conditions experienced inside a compartment underactual fire conditions.

Use visual observation under actual fire conditions to identify: Evidence of pyrolysis, neutral plane,air track, and rollover.

Demonstrate the following nozzle techniques under actual fire conditions: Pulsing (short pulse),penciling, and painting

4.3.2* Students participating All participants in a live fire training evolution who have received therequired minimum training from other than the AHJ shall not be permitted to participate in any live firetraining evolution without first presenting prior written evidence of having successfully completed theprescribed minimum training to the levels specified in 4.3.1.


Prerequisite training requirements for students participating in live fire training activities in the standard have not changed since the original requirements were included in the first edition of NFPA 1403 in 1986. In the last 5 years, fire tests conducted by both NIST and UL indicate that fire behavior in the current built environment is much different than what has been used as a basis for live fire training for the last 25 years, or more. The proposed changes will ensure that all participants of live fire training activities, both for students and particularly instructors, is based on current fire behavior conditions that are anticipated to be encountered in structural fire fighting.


Submitter Full Name: William PetersonOrganization: [ Not Specified ]Affilliation: International Fire Marshals AssociationStreet Address:City:


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State:Zip:Submittal Date: Wed Dec 10 15:02:07 EST 2014


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TITLE OF NEW CONTENTType your content here ...

New 4.4 Participant Health and Safety (renumber existing sections 4.4 to 4.16)

4.4.1 Participants engaged in live fire training shall be limited to a maximum of four (4) sessions, orevolutions, in a hyperthermic environment per day.

4.4.2* Participation in live fire training sessions (evolutions) in a hyperthermic environment shall be given aperiod of rest, after each session or evolution, to allow for proper rehydration and reduction of core bodytemperatures to normal levels.

A.4.4.2 Consideration should be given to the accumulated physiological effects on each participant whenworking in a hyperthermic environment. If the work in hyperthermic environment is highly physicallydemanding, at very high temperatures, or if other circumstances apply, rest periods should be longer.

4.4.3 Participants in live fire training sessions (evolutions) shall not be required to work in a hypothermicenvironment on consecutive days.

4.4.4 Live fire training sessions (evolutions) shall not exceed a maximum of one (1) hour in duration, underany circumstances.

4.4.5 Live fire training sessions (evolutions) shall not exceed thirty (30) minutes in duration when theoutside air temperature exceeds 30° C (86° F), and the outdoor relative humidity exceeds 80%.

4.4.6 * The times in 4.4.4 and 4.4.5 shall be reduced if the nature of the live fire evolution requires theparticipant to engage in highly physically demanding activity.*

*A.4.4.6 When assessing the length of a live fire training session (evolution), the following should be takeninto account:

(1) nature of the work to be performed by the participant,

(2) physical stress of the work on the participant,

(3) temperature of the work end evolution environment

(4) exposure time in a hyperthermic environment, and

(5) other circumstances (e.g. weather, humidity).


More and more documentation is becoming available about the physiological impact on participants of live fire training activities. In 2006, a study was conducted by the Swedish Fire Service on the physiological effects of working in a hyperthermic environment. In connection with the typical training of fire fighters the study involved practical sessions in more or less realistic environments, with smoke-filled exercise facilities where ambient temperature in some parts were as high as 100 - 150 ° C (212- 302° F) or even higher. The study was managed and supervised by a two interacting instructors. These study participants were repeatedly exposed, to some extent, to hard physical work in a hyperthermic environment, replicating the physiological demands typically encountered in live fire training. Results from the study indicates that the physiological impact of participating in live fire training activities may be harmful, particularly in the long term.

The six study participants included five males (22 - 38 years old) and a female, (39 years old). The study was performed over a four day period where participants engaged in live fire training exercises four (4) times each day. Before and after each day, the study participants received a medical examination with blood pressure and ECG recording, respiratory function test, test on reaction speed, memory function and fine motor skills. Blood and urine were also analyzed, as a part of the medical screening process. Skin, rectal, and ambient temperatures were recorded continuously as well as heart rate. Fluid loss and fluid intake were recorded daily.

It was found that all individuals who participated in the study exercises had raised their body temperature to between 38-40 ° C (100.4 -104.0° F) during all tests conducted in a hyperthermic environment . The Daily fluid


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loss of the participants ranged from 2900 - 8600 ml. Five of the six individuals reported fatigue and three of six individuals experienced headaches. All test results, with one exception, show values within what would normally be seen as normal limits. However the study also reveals patterns in the test results that indicate transient changes which could possibly indicate that the studied activity involves a health risk, at least in the currently practiced mode of typical live fire training practices. Study results clearly implied that high physical exertion in a hyperthermic environment can result in ECG changes, effects on blood pressure and heart rate, and changes in several blood parameters (liver enzymes and pancreatic amylase, hemoglobin, white blood cells and platelets, creatinine, blood sugar, metabolism, blood lipids, myoglobin). Also seen in the test results were abnormal influences such as the presence of protein, and in one case both red as white blood cells in collected urine samples.

While the study physiological testing and analysis did not indicate any immediate serious health effects, the completed study made observations that would tend to indicate that in a longer perspective, frequent exposure to hyperthermic temperatures, can result in health risks to participants engaged in live fire training. The results of the Sweden study means that it is prudent to limit participant exposure to conditions where they would experience a combination of high physical load and hyperthermic temperatures.


Submitter Full Name: William PetersonOrganization: [ Not Specified ]Affilliation: International Fire marshals AssociationStreet Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Wed Dec 10 15:06:14 EST 2014


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4.8.1 All students, instructors, safety personnel, and other personnel shall wear all protective clothing andequipment , SCBA and other equipment specified in this chapter according to manufacturer’sinstructions whenever they are involved in any evolution or fire suppression operation during the live all live fire training evolution(s) .


Fire Department personnel participating in flammable and combustible liquid props are not being required wear SCBA's and firefighters are being subjected to facial and lung burns when not wearing an SCBA in these training scenerios


Submitter Full Name: Gary SimpsonOrganization: E. D. Bullard CompanyStreet Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Tue Dec 16 10:07:54 EST 2014


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4.8.7 * All students, instructors, safety personnel, and other personnel participating in any evolution or operation offire suppression during the live fire training evolution shall breathe from an SCBA air supply whenever theyoperate under one or more of the following conditions:

(1) In an atmosphere that is oxygen deficient or contaminated by products of combustion, or both

(2) In an atmosphere that is suspected of being oxygen deficient or contaminated by products ofcombustion, or both

(3) In any atmosphere that can become oxygen deficient, contaminated, or both

(4) Below ground level

(5) In any atmosphere where combustible or flammable liquids are being used burned as part of anygas or liquid prop to train firefighters


Fire department personnel participating in flammable and combustible liquid props are not being required to wear SCBA's and firefighters are being subjected to facial and lung burns when not wearing an SCBA in these training environments


Submitter Full Name: Gary SimpsonOrganization: E. D. Bullard CompanyStreet Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Tue Dec 16 10:21:01 EST 2014


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Public Input No. 26-NFPA 1403-2014 [ Section No. 4.10.1 [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ]

Basic life support (BLS) emergency Emergency medical services shall be available on site to handleinjuries with basic life support (BLS) being the minimum standard . Advanced life support (ALS) should beprovided when readily available.


The United States Fire Administration statistics continue to show firefighters dying in the line of duty. Stress and other medical-related issues, which usually result in heart attacks or other sudden cardiac events, continue to account for the largest number of fatalities. In 2013, one-third of the deaths resulted from overexertion, stress and related medical issues. Of the 32 deaths in this category, 29 were classified as sudden cardiac deaths (usually heart attacks). In the same year, five deaths occurred during training activities as a result of sudden cardiac death.The discussion of BLS vs. ALS on scene of live fire training has been debated for years, however the fact remains that this type of training is stressful and physically demanding. Trained ALS personnel can provide immediate airway management, cardiac monitoring, intravenous access (IV) and drug therapy when seconds count.The 1403 document should recommend ALS personnel be on scene during live fire training.


Submitter Full Name: Roland FredricksonOrganization: City of Corona Fire DepartmentStreet Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Thu Dec 25 23:28:00 EST 2014


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Public Input No. 34-NFPA 1403-2015 [ Section No. 4.10.1.1 ]

4.10.1.1

For acquired structures, BLS emergency medical services with transport capabilities

shallshould be

availableon site to handle injuries when available .

4.10.2 If BLS transport capability is not available, a parking area for an ambulance or an emergencymedical services vehicle shall be designated and located where it will facilitate a prompt response in theevent of personal injury to participants in the evolution.


The standard requiring BLS transport is creating situations where live fire training is either being cancelled or not conducted due to the inability of a transport unit being available. In small rural communities EMS systems often do not have units they dedicate to stand by. This new verbiage would first encourage having a unit on scene if at all possible, and if one is not available, planning for its arrival, ease of access, and departure.




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4.12.2 Pressure-treated wood, rubber, plastic, polyurethane foam, tar paper, upholstered furniture, and chemicallytreated or pesticide-treated straw or hay shall not be used.


there is great confusion right now about whether or not tar paper is an acceptable fuel.


Submitter Full Name: JAMES MENDOZAOrganization: SAN JOSE FIRE DEPARTMENTStreet Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Tue Dec 30 14:00:05 EST 2014


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4.12.2 Pressure-treated wood, rubber, plastic, tar paper, polyurethane foam, upholstered furniture, and chemicallytreated or pesticide-treated straw or hay shall not be used.


There is great confusion about whether or not tar paper is acceptable as a fuel. This would give clarity.




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4.15.5 The location of the manikin shall not be required to be disclosed, provided that the possibility of victims isdiscussed in the preburn briefing.

4.16.2 Victims (rescue mannequins) shalll not be dressed in firefighting personal protective clothing.

4.16.2 Victims (rescue mannequins) shall be easily identified as mannequins to prevent confusion withpotential actual downed firefighters. Rescue mannequins may to be dressed in firefighting personalprotective clothing for purposes of teaching rescue technqiues related to specific personal protectiveclothing worn by an agency.

Sorry, I didn't know how to edit this part of the Tentative Interim Amedment


Prohibiting the use of PPE on victims prevents agencies from practicing rescue techniques that are specific to the PPE. Some turnouts have rescue loops, and SCBA have rescue breathing devices. Practicing how to use these under more realistic conditions is very important.




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Public Input No. 5-NFPA 1403-2013 [ New Section after 4.15.9.1 ]

NOTE: This public input originates from Tentative Interim Amendment 1403-12-1 (TIA 1107)issued by the Standards Council on October 22, 2013 and per the NFPA Regs. needs to bereconsidered by the Technical Committee for the next edition of the Document.

4.16 Victim(s).

4.16.1 No person(s) shall play the role of a victim inside any live fire training structure oracquired structure.

4.16.2 Victims (rescue mannequins) shall not be dressed in fire fighting personalprotective clothing.

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description ApprovedProposed_TIA_1107_NFPA1403.docx Balloted TIA ✓


The existing text in the proposed 4.16.1 was in the 2007 edition of NFPA 1403 in 4.4.14 and was deleted by mistake in the 2012 edition.

Emergency Nature: The text was deleted by mistake from the current edition and needs to be added back in for safety reasons.


Submitter Full Name: TC on FIY-AAAOrganization: TC on Fire Service TrainingStreet Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Thu Oct 31 13:45:34 EDT 2013

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NFPA 1403®-2012

Standard on Live Training Solutions

TIA Log No. 1107

Reference: 4.16

Comment Closing Date: July 19, 2013

Submitter: Kenneth Richards, Old Mystic Fire Department

1. Add a new Section 4.16 to read as follows:

4.16 Victim(s).

4.16.1 No person(s) shall play the role of a victim inside any live fire training structure or acquired structure.

4.16.2 Victims (rescue mannequins) shall not be dressed in fire fighting personal protective clothing.

Submitter’s Substantiation: The existing text in the proposed 4.16.1 was in the 2007 edition of NFPA 1403 in 4.4.14

and was deleted by mistake in the 2012 edition.

Emergency Nature: The text was deleted by mistake from the current edition and needs to be added back in for safety

reasons.

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5.1.7 The owner of the structure shall acknowldge to the AHJ that any remaining debrisshall be removed within a time specified by the AHJ after the training evolution iscomplete.


Live fire training evolutions leave debris on the lot that is hazardous and potentially a public nuisance. An understanding that this debris needs to be removed after the training evolution and is the responsibility of the owner needs to be acquired in writing by the AHJ. Otherwise, debate will ensue over responsibility for the condition of the property and the removal of the debris.


Submitter Full Name: Anthony ApfelbeckOrganization: Altamonte Springs Building/Fire Safety DivisionStreet Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Sun Dec 22 00:33:17 EST 2013


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5.2.5.2 A hazardous environmental assessment shall be conducted of the building by an approvedtesting agency prior to the use of the structure for live fire training evoluations or any demolition ofbuilding components.


In order to know if hazardous environmental conditions exist, an assessment needs to be conducted. Requiring the removal of such hazards, as the standard currently requires, is only effective if an identification step is required to identify such hazards. If no assessment identification step is required, then unidentified hazards will remain.




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9.1.2* For acquired structures, records pertaining to insurance cancellation, environmentalassessment/abatement, evidence of ownership and authorization from the owner of the structure toconduct the training shall be completed and maintained by the AHJ .


The current language is very vague in stating records relating to the structure. Greater guidance needs to be provided as to what records should be completed and maintained.




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Chapter 10 Specialized Live Fire Training Environments10.0 Requirements Fire Dynamics Training Environment

10.1 Training for the purpose of fire dynamics shall meet the requirements of Chapters 4, 5, 6, and7 and provisions of this section.

10.1.2 When specifically training for fire dynamics, the fuel type provisions contained in 4.12.1and 4.12.2 shall not apply.

10.1.3 Chemically treated hay, straw, and wood shall not be used.

10.1.4 Only fuels such as carpeting, furniture, and fixtures shall be allowed in order to developtraining fires to train in modern fire environments.

10.1.5 Wood products such as oriented strand board shall not be used as fuel material.

10.2 Instructor Requirements

10.2.1 Instructor to student ratios for training in this type of environment shall be 3:1 or oneinstructor per functional group.

10.2.2 Only those instructors approved by the AHJ shall be utilized to train in this type ofenvironment.

10.3 Specific Evolutions for Environment

10.3.1 Only evolutions that are designed to observe fire growth and development in modernenvironments shall be conducted with the provisions of this chapter.

10.3.2 Evolutions that are allowable shall include Impacts and proper/improper ventilation, flow pathrecognition/management, and proper fire stream application.

10.4 Suitable Training Sites

10.4.1 Acquired structures shall not be used for this type of training

10.4.2 Fire training centers shall be the only allowable environment to conduct training contained in10.0

1 0.5 Requirements for Live Fire Training for Rapid Intervention Operations and ThermalImagers

10.5.1 Training for the purpose of Rapid Intervention Operations and Thermal Imaging shall meetthe requirements of Chapters 4, 5, 6, and 7.

10.5.2 Training for the purpose of Rapid Intervention Operations and Thermal Imaging shall not besubject to 4.16.1 and 4.16.2.

10.5.3 There shall only be one Instructor playing the role of a victim per scenario.

10.5.4 There shall be another instructor with the instructor playing the role of victim at all times andwithin five feet of an exit.

10.5.5 A thermal imager shall be used to observe the crew and victim at all times during theevolution(s).

10.6 Instructor Requirements

10.6.1 Instructor to student ratios for training in these type of environments shall be 3:1, or oneinstructor per functional group.

10.6.2 Only those instructors approved by the AHJ shall be utilized to train in this type ofenvironments.

10.6.3 Instructors shall be trained to the requirements of NFPA 1407 Standard for Training FireService Rapid Intervention Crews specifically Chapter 5, 6.2.1, and 6.2.2.

10.6.4 Instructors shall be trained to the requirements of NFPA 1408 Standard Thermal ImagingTraining specifically Chapter 5.


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10.7 Student Requirements

10.7.1 Students participating in thermal imaging training shall meet the requirements of NFPA 1408Chapter 6.

10.7.2 Students participating in rapid intevention training shall meet the requirements of NFPA 1407.

10.7 Specific Evolutions for Environment

10.7.1 Only evolutions that are designed to teach skills in accordance with NFPA 1407 Chapter 7 shallbe conducted within the provisions of this chapter.

10.7.2 Only evolutions that are designed to measure performance in accordance with NFPA 1407Chapter 8 shall be conducted within the provisions of this chapter.

10.7.3 Only evolutions that are designed to teach the use of Thermal Imagers in accordance with NFPA1408 Chapter 8 shall be conducted.

10.8 Suitable Training Sites

10.8.1 Acquired structures shall not be used for training for 1407 or 1408 evolutions.

10.8.2 Fire training centers shall be the only allowable environment to conduct training contained in 10.5.

10.8.3 Minimum of two compatible RIC Packs shall be available and designated one for training and one forthe instructor playing the role of victim.


As a result of training accidents over the last three decades, the current and previous editions of NFPA 1403 have progressively become more restrictive since the inception of the standard as to the types of evolutions that can be conducted. The restrictions have made it more difficult to adequately train for the various modern environments and operations firefighters are encountering. The intent of the proposed new chapter on Specific Training Environments is to provide options for which specific types of evolutions could be conducted in order to meet requirements of NFPA 1001, 1407, and 1408.




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Public Input No. 30-NFPA 1403-2014 [ Section No. A.4.12.1 ]

A.4.12.1 Acceptable fuels include pine excelsior, wooden pallets (not contaminated by chemicals or paint) , OSB(oriented strand board), particle board, straw, hay, shredded paper, cardboard and other wood-basedproducts.


Better clarity about what fuels are and are not acceptable.




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Public Input No. 10-NFPA 1403-2013 [ Section No. B.1 ]

Under note 1., add a new check box as follows:Acknowledgement of owner's responsibility to abate conditions left after the live fire evolution is complete. B.1 Sample Checklist.Figure B.1 provides a checklist for a live fire evolution.Figure B.1 Sample Checklist for Procedures for a Live Fire Evolution.

Figure B.1 Continued


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Debris and other hazardous conditions are frequently left on the lot after live fire training evolutions. Acknowledgement from the owner that they are responsible for abating such conditions should be received prior to the evolutions to ensure no misunderstanding exists regarding the parties responsibilities for mitigating any post evolution conditions on the property.




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Public Input No. 9-NFPA 1403-2013 [ Section No. B.1 ]

Insert a new note 2 in the Permits section as follows and renumber the reamining:2. Local demolition permit received. B.1 Sample Checklist.Figure B.1 provides a checklist for a live fire evolution.Figure B.1 Sample Checklist for Procedures for a Live Fire Evolution.

Figure B.1 Continued


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A permit from the building department to demolish the structure is a common requirement in most jurisdictions. This should be included in the checklist.




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ATTACHMENT D

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TO: Technical Committee on Fire Service Training

FROM: Linda Fuller DATE: September 12, 2014 SUBJECT: Request to Transfer Responsibility for NFPA 1402, Guide to Building Fire Service Training Centers I am transmitting to you herewith the following action of the Standards Council (August 11- August 14, 2014):

The Council reviewed the request of the Fire Service Training Committee (TC) to transfer the responsibility for NFPA 1402, Guide to Building Fire Service Training Centers and to create a new committee. The Council reviewed the scope and title for the new committee, which will be entitled, Facilities for Fire Training and Associated Props. After review of all the material before it, the Council voted to publish a notice to solicit public comments for the need of the project, information on subject matter resources, those interested in participating, if established, and other organizations actively involved with the subject. At the request of the Fire Service Training Committee, the Council voted to allow NFPA 1402 to skip the Fall 2016 revision cycle and enter into the Fall 2021 revision cycle so that the newly formed TC has time to revise NFPA 1402. PROPOSED COMMITTEE TITLE: Facilities for Fire Training and Associated Props PROPOSED COMMITTEE SCOPE: This committee shall have primary responsibility for the design, construction, and maintenance of facilities for fire training and for fire training props. Responsibilities of the committee include standards relating to gas-fire props; training structures, props, and simulators used for live fire training rescue training and related tactical and skill training exercises.

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TC Fire Service Training Agenda February 26-27 2015 MeetingAttachment ATC Fire Service Training Minutes 2-14 meetingAttachment B8204ED3A0A5744CC8126B00781678F12Attachment C14011403Attachment D14-8-46