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debatelive.org “Outside Scientists” Scientists who believe in the Biblical account of creation are considered intellectually separate or distinct from scientists who do not. “Traditional Scientists” This is another discriminatory statement that seeks to minimize the work of scientists that believe in the Bible “I’m a reasonable man…” Implies that those who believe in the Bible are unreasonable Keeping America competitive…Suggests that people who believe in the Creation account are not intelligent enough to be productive, contributing members of our society and global market. Bill Nye made frequent statements like…

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• “Outside Scientists”• Scientists who believe in the Biblical account of creation are considered

intellectually separate or distinct from scientists who do not.• “Traditional Scientists”

• This is another discriminatory statement that seeks to minimize the work of scientists that believe in the Bible

• “I’m a reasonable man…”• Implies that those who believe in the Bible are unreasonable

• “Keeping America competitive…”• Suggests that people who believe in the Creation account are not intelligent

enough to be productive, contributing members of our society and global market.

Bill Nye made frequent statements like…

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• Excessive Accusations• He used a common debate strategy by making far more claims than Ken Ham had

time to answer. Any issues not answered then appear to be undebatable facts.• Outdated Information

• Many of the issues that Bill Nye presented have long been debunked or were simply deceptive.

• Ignored Answers• Ken Ham did provide intelligent answers to a number of the claims made by Bill

Nye. However, Nye simply wasn’t listening and frequently claimed Ken had not yet answered his questions.

Bill Nye made a lot of tired arguments…

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ICE CORE SAMPLESClimatologists and Paleogeologists drill deep down into the ancient ice of Greenland and

Antartica to study various conditions of the earth and its past environments. It’s worth noting that there is some interesting information that can be gleaned from these samples, but secular scientists engage in a great deal of assumption and speculation from the ice

core samples.

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The traditional thinking is that the topmost layers of these ice cores are

indicators of annual or seasonal snow accumulation & compression. As such, they can be counted much

like tree rings to determine a relative age of the ice layers.

WINTERSUMMER

WINTER

SUMMER

WINTERSUMMER

Bill Nye used this thinking and some deceptive math to suggest that if the earth were only 6,000

years old there would have been 144 winters a year, which appears to be definitive evidence again the

Genesis account of Creation.

8 YEARS IT’S CRUCIAL TO

NOT WORRY

WHEN EVIDENCE

SEEMS TO

DISPROVE THE

BIBLE. GOD’S

TRUTH IS

ABSOLUTE AND

OUR FAITH IS IN

HIS WORD AND IN

THE WORK OF

JESUS, NOT IN THE

FALABLE WISDOM

AND SCIENCE OF

MEN.

NOW FAITH IS THE

SUBSTANCE OF THINGS HOPED FOR, THE EVIDENCE OF THINGS NOT SEEN.

HEBREWS 11:1-2

SO THEN FAITH

COMETH BY

HEARING AND

HEARING BY

THE WORD OF

GOD

ROMANS

10:17

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However, there are scientists, both Secular and Christian, that believe these layers do not depict annual

seasons but simply fluctuations caused by storms or common

changes in temperature.COLD

WARM

COLD

WARM

COLD

WARM

During warmer periods or the snow would begin to soften and melt.

When new snow accumulated on top of this it would refreeze and

compress differently and form discernible layers. Strong winter

storms can also cause unpredictable or erratic layers.

1 WINTER

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In 1942, six P-38 and two B-17 US fighter planes crash-landed in Greenland. These planes lay undisturbed for decades until they were recovered in 1992 under an astonishing 268 feet (80 m) of snow! One of the witnesses counted hundreds and hundreds of snow layers in the 268 foot. shaft from the surface to the planes below.

THE LOST SQUADRON

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To put this in perspective, 268 feet is slightly taller than a 19 story building! If we have undeniable evidence of that kind of accumulation in that short period of time, than 6,000 years is more than enough to account for 11,000 feet depth of the entire glacier system. It also proves definitively that the layers observed in the ice cores samples are not annual rings.

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FOSSILS DON’T TELL US MUCH, EXCEPT THAT SOMETHING DIED.

FOSSILS ARE

PRIMARILY

ARRANGED IN

EVOLUTIONARY

“ORDER”

BASED ON

THEIR

APPEARANCE

AND THE ROCK

LAYERS IN

WHICH THEY

WERE FOUND

REMEMBER THIS IS

CIRCULAR REASONING TO DATE FOSSILS BY ROCK LAYERS,

BECAUSE THE ROCK LAYERS ARE DATED BY THE FOSSILS FOUND WITHIN THEM.

PURELY

SPECULATION

SPECULATION IS

A POLITE WAY

OF SAYING THE

SCIENTISTS ARE

SIMPLY MAKING

GUESSES

BASED ON

THEIR

PRECONCEIVED

BELIEFS.

(THAT’S NOT

VERY

SCIENTIFIC!)

LOTS OF SKULLS

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That would be like trying to sequentially arrange all of the “Magic Tree House” books using only the information found in the cover artwork of each book and the library in which they

are cataloged.

Topeka Public Library

Wanamaker Elementary

Library

WRMS LibraryFarley

Elementary Library

DOES THIS SEEM

“REASONABLE”, BILL?TO GET THE TRUE ORDER OF THE BOOKS WE’D NEED TO REFER TO THE INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE AUTHOR! THE SAME IS TRUE FOR

LIFE!! (SEE HEBREWS 12:2

)

Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down

at the right hand of the throne of God. - Hebrews 12:2

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NUMBER OF SPECIES

Bill Nye made some audacious claims about how many species would have to appear everyday if the earth were only 6,000 years old.

He used simple math to deduce the number of species, divided by the number of days in 6,000 years. It appeared very straight-forward and definitive. It was, however, deceptive.

Bill cited an extraordinarily large number of species to make his computations. The issue is, that he was trying to disprove the Bible, but he didn’t study what the Bible actually claims.

The number that Bill mentions is the current number of all species thought to exist in the world today. This includes all aquatic life, birds, insects, bacteria, and other microscopic life.

The reason this is deceptive is because none of these life forms were on Noah’s Ark, and so many of them would have continued to exist during and after the flood.

In other words, the Bible never claims that the animal kinds which left the ark are responsible for becoming every single species alive today.

HE’S LITERALLY PROVIDING EVIDENCE TO TRY AND DISPROVE SOMETHING THAT SCRIPTURE

NEVER CLAIMED TO HAPPEN!

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Bill Nye also had a lot to say about the feasibility of Noah and his sons being able to build the Ark by themselves. He also had numerous doubts about the eight people aboard the Ark being able to feed and care for all of the animals on board.

His main argument was that he didn’t believe a group of people from ancient times would have the intelligence perform such a enormous endeavor.

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Ancient peoples have engineered and built countless incredible structures, many of which we still are uncertain about the specifics of how they were created. It is incredibly arrogant to think people thousands of years ago are somehow of a

primitive intelligence. In fact, it’s entirely possible they were SMARTER than us!

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THINGS TO CONSIDER…• Bill Nye repeatedly claimed

to be a “reasonable man” and he couldn’t imagine how the historical account of the Ark could be true. THIS IS NOT EVIDENCE, IT IS ONE MAN’S OPINION!!

• Just because “The Science Guy” can’t think of a way to make something happen, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. In fact, it’s pretty arrogant to try and present that as a reason to disprove something.

• Noah didn’t have to be a professional shipwright to build the Ark. IT WAS DESIGNED BY GOD!

• There are small family farms all around the world in which a hand full of people tend to hundreds and even thousands of animals.

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