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  • A Dedicated Faith Ministry

    On Mike Bickle’s Perspective of “MANIFESTATIONS” A Call to Walk Circumspectly and Test All Things in Sober-mindedness

    David Istre 1/7/2014

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    VIDEO: Manifestations of the Spirit

    There are two things I earnestly want to address: first and more broadly, is the lack of discernment I see

    Christians using that has allowed a false spirit into the Church, then secondly, and more specifically, the

    serious errors I see particularly in Mike Bickle and the IHOP movement. I’ve wanted to address the

    dangerous errors I see with Mike Bickle and the IHOP movement for quite a long time, but have found it

    a daunting task sifting through layers upon layers of carefully modified vocabulary and keeping straight

    the circular style of speaking that he uses. His Dominionist Theology and Forerunner Eschatology, along

    with his past associations to Bob Jones, the KC Prophets, and now, his associations with The Three

    Streams Convergence movements, are sufficient causes for alarm in and of themselves, but today I want

    to address something that I believe exceeds all these concerns in every way possible.

    I believe there is nothing more important today, no doctrine more vital, or revelation more critical to the

    Church than that which pertains to the Holy Spirit; rightly understanding the true work of the Holy Spirit

    should be considered of the highest priority, tantamount to spiritual survival itself. Erring in our

    understanding of the Spirit will lead us into countless errors, bizarre darkness, and eventually, to

    blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

    The Lord warned us concerning the severity of this subject,

    “Assuredly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they

    may utter; but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject

    to eternal condemnation”— because they said, ‘He has an unclean spirit.’” Mark 3:27-30

    This is why I am so utterly dumbfounded by how caviler men are being in the ways they talk about the

    ministry, work, and doctrines of the Holy Spirit. We see people offering their opinions so flippantly,

    from one blasphemy to another: we have men who write off any external work of the Holy Spirit as a

    work of Satan, and men who give the works of Satan as the works of the Spirit! Brethren, test all things!

    My heart truly and sincerely goes out to Mike Bickle because it seems as though he is sincere in what he

    believes; and he was introduced to many of the things that he believes now at a young age of sixteen,

    but, it seems without strong accompanying teaching to keep him grounded. Likewise, my heart goes out

    to those who become involved with IHOP because they are seeking something more than the cold and

    calcified religions they were brought up in.

    I want to make something clear: while I am using Mike Bickle’s teachings here as an example, these

    things are not meant to be a cannonball aimed at him, rather, I’m giving a call to discernment, to test all

    things, and to come out of false teaching. I rejoice that the burden of judging men’s hearts isn’t on me!

    Instead, we are responsible to test the things that we see and hear to see if they are from God. So, test

    all things!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=511_SiErw0U

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    MANIFESTATIONS Two quick definitions for words that we may be unfamiliar with: the word “manifestation” is used in the

    Bible to mean “to bring something to light”, “to make something clear/known”, or, “to reveal something

    to or in someone” (Eerdman’s Bible Dictionary & Oxford English Dictionary). Also, the word “doctrine” is

    used in reference to “principles, beliefs, and teachings” (Oxford English Dictionary).

    Before we address the teachings that I’m calling us to test, we are going to let the Word of God give us a

    framework for the manifestations of the Holy Spirit.

    1st Corinthians 12:4-11 says,

    “There are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. There are differences of ministries, but the

    same Lord. And there are diversities of activities, but it is the same God who works all in

    all. But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all: for to one is

    given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the

    same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same

    Spirit, to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits,

    to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. But one and the

    same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills.”

    The gifts, ministries, and activities of the Holy Spirit compose the diverse manifestations of the Spirit,

    given to each believer for the benefit of the whole Body. These manifestations bring to light and declare

    to us the things that Jesus Christ has given to the Holy Spirit to reveal to us and through us, just as the

    Lord said,

    “He [the Holy Spirit] will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you.”

    ~John 16:14

    The manifestations of the Spirit have purpose, effect fruit, and are useful for building up the Body of

    Christ.

    One has a gift of healing, by which life is manifest, another is a pastor, by which care and faithfulness are

    manifest, still others may have various administrations, but all are for the benefit and edification of the

    Body so that in all these things the Holy Spirit is able to abundantly take of what Christ gave Him and

    declare it unto us.

    Let us consider both the character and fruit of the Holy Spirit:

    “The fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth” ~Ephesians 5:9

    And,

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    “the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,

    gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.” ~Galatians 5:22-23

    “As His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the

    knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue, by which have been given to us exceedingly

    great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature,

    having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. But also for this very reason,

    giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, to knowledge self-control, to

    self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, to godliness brotherly kindness, and to

    brotherly kindness love.” ~2nd Peter 1:3-7

    No work of the Holy Spirit will depart from these things; there is no work of the Spirit that does not

    accord with life or peace (Romans 8:6), nor any work that is not in all goodness, righteousness, and truth.

    By God’s divine power we have been made partakers of all things that pertain to life and godliness.

    We are not seeking to limit by cold and calcified denominational bi-lines the work and ministry of the

    Holy Spirit, but, to be partakers of all things that pertain to life and godliness by the authentic ministry of

    the Holy Spirit. We want to guard ourselves so that we do not become partakers of counterfeit lying

    signs and wonders of the enemy.

    Therefore, we’re given sound instruction in the Word of God;

    “Do not quench the Spirit. Do not despise prophecies. Test all things; hold fast what is

    good. Abstain from every form of evil” ~1st Thessalonians 5:19-22

    “If anyone teaches a different doctrine, and does not consent to the sound words of our Lord

    Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing…

    From such withdraw yourself” ~1st Timothy 6:3-5

    I think sometimes people forget that no doctrine that doesn’t consent to the words of our Lord Jesus

    Christ or agree with godliness is from God; we’re told to withdraw from anyone that brings “principles”,

    “teachings”, or “systems of belief” that stray from the godliness and truth brought to us once and for all

    by Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit in the gospel. This is not being “divisive” or “contentious”, which

    come from an envious, greedy, and malicious heart. If we separate and come out of those who teach

    things that do not consent to sound doctrine and godliness with a heart of obedience to God, we are

    doing so out of faith, not contention, and faith, when according to the knowledge of God, pleases God.

    Some of the things that Mike Bickle taught in this video do agree, at least in appearance, with sound

    doctrine: “do not quench the Spirit” or “despise prophecies” is a call to express the things that the Holy

    Spirit manifests to us. My call is to test whether the kinds of “manifestations” we see being approved of

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    here are the manifestations of the Holy Spirit or not, because we do not want to become partakers of

    such behaviors if they are not.

    As hard as it can be, even if a brother seems to be so sincere, and espouses doctrines that appear to be

    sound, but the fruit of their teaching is not in goodness, righteousness, truth, or godliness, then what we

    have observed is not from God. No doctrine of God exists that does not consent to Godliness, and no

    fruit that is from the Holy Spirit exists that is not in goodness, righteousness, and truth.

    Ok, one final note on the manifestations of the Holy Spirit comes from the commandments of the Lord

    delivered to Paul that govern the manifestations of the Holy Spirit in the Church;

    “26 How is it then, brethren? Whenever you come together, each of you has a psalm, has a

    teaching, has a tongue, has a revelation, and has an interpretation. Let all things be done for

    edification. 33 For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the

    saints. 37 If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the

    things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord. 38 But if anyone does not

    recognize this, he is not recognized.” 1st Corinthians 14:26, 33, 37-38

    If we observe manifestations that come with great power, but bring chaos, how can the works we

    observe be from the God who is the author of peace in all the Churches?

    I encourage you to bear these things in mind as we prepare to test the things that we have heard in this

    video.

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    A QUICK SUMMARY Before we dive deeper into what Mike Bickle teaches about the Spirit’s manifestations, let’s recap with a

    brief summary of this video:

    Approximately forty years ago when he was 16 and still in the Presbyterian Church, Bickle

    attended a series of nightly meetings, perhaps from a Pentecostal revival meeting (though this is

    not confirmed), in which he witnessed people casting out demons and coming under the Spirit.

    He said that he was awestruck and received a tremendous hunger for these things. Since that

    time, he says, he has been moved under the Spirit to “uncontrollable laughter, thrashing around,

    violent shaking, and has felt tremendous heat and wind”. Throughout his life he says that he

    has been to 1,000’s of these kinds of meetings and considers himself to have a considerable

    amount of experience with the many different kinds of manifestations.

    His three perspectives are, #1- if the Spirit touches you, manifest in a genuine way, #2- don’t

    become an auto-manifester because the very thing that was genuine the first time you did it can

    become a personal distraction to you if you do it when He is not moving you to do it, and #3-

    having a “manifestation culture” can become distracting and hurtful to your brethren who are

    desperately seeking God.

    The 5 overarching values that guide his perspectives on the manifestations of the Holy Spirit

    listed in this video are, #1- we should strongly desire to promote genuine manifestations of the

    Spirit, #2- we should help people connect with Jesus, #3- we should draw attention to Jesus (not

    ourselves), #4- we should promote liberty, and #5- we should be sensitive to other people and

    not hurt them by our own personal expression of the Holy Spirit.

    His principle of manifestations are that 80% of the manifestations that he sees from people are

    fake, but 20% are real; he says we should allow the 80% fake for the sake of not suppressing the

    20% genuine.

    Many of his key-points appear to be quite good; in fact, I encourage you to take heed to some of the

    things he has said, like, not seeking “manifestation” for the sake of “manifestation”. You need to

    consider your brothers around you, remembering that the “manifestation of the Spirit is given for the

    profit of all”. But, we cannot give people a “pass” just because their doctrines appear kosher; we must

    test to see if their doctrines bear godly fruit.

    Mike Bickle himself is a prolific “reader”; he has been exposed to writers ranging from the Catholic

    Desert Mystics to E.M. Bounds (a truly profound man). So we should not necessarily be surprised if

    what we hear contains some sound wisdom.

    In addition to looking at Bickle’s video, we will watch four other videos to try and get a well-rounded

    understanding of this issue; three of these videos will portray examples of some of the behaviors that

    Mike Bickle has approved of as genuine manifestations of the Holy Spirit. I did my best to find raw-

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    footage that was not from “watchman” sources, although, for one video I had to resort to a “watchman-

    type” source because I couldn’t find raw footage for it. The third video is from the IHOPU YouTube

    channel itself. And the last video will be a clip from David Wilkerson on his perspective of these new

    manifestations.

    I hope you can join me in praying,

    “that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you the spirit of wisdom

    and revelation in the knowledge of Him, the eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that

    you may know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance

    in the saints, and what is the exceeding greatness of His power toward us who believe, according

    to the working of His mighty power which He worked in Christ when He raised Him from the

    dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, far above all principality and

    power and might and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in

    that which is to come.” (Eph. 1:17-21)

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    MIXING THE CLEAN WITH THE UNCLEAN I know that there are going to be two groups of people out there reading this: one group will tend to

    dismiss all manifestations of the Holy Spirit because of the bizarre nature of some of these false

    manifestations, and to this group I want to make something painfully clear, be careful that you do not

    blaspheme the Holy Spirit; I am not calling every manifestation of the Spirit that doesn’t have an exact

    example in the Bible demonic, neither am I willing to condemn as demonic the work of the Holy Spirit in

    God’s servants who prophesy, serve by various administrations or activities, supernaturally and

    authentically heal the sick, speak in tongues, preach God’s word by the authority of Christ, or manifest

    any other manifestation of the Holy Spirit by which He takes of the things of Christ and declares them

    unto us. But I urge you to exercise sound judgment and use discernment in the things that we see,

    experience, and hear, to test whether or not these things are from God. There are utterly dire

    consequences if we get these things wrong; ignoring them will not suffice, and addressing them rashly is

    deadly. To the second group of people, who tend to accept every manifestation as a genuine

    manifestation of the Holy Spirit and say “who am I to judge?” I will remind you of God’s call by the Holy

    Spirit in the Bible to “test all things”, to “withdraw” from those whose doctrine doesn’t consent to

    godliness, and to “come out of her, My people, lest you share in her sins and partake of her plagues”

    (Rev. 18:4).

    I want to take a look at Mike Bickle’s principle first; his “principle” is his “doctrine”.

    He defines this principle by saying that he allows “a whole lot of hamburger helper” for the sake of the

    “genuine”. This may seem to bypass people’s initial objection to the obviously fake manifestations by

    acknowledging that as much as 80% of the people he sees manifesting these behaviors are “fakes”, and

    it may seem to sooth people’s concerns at first because he says he allows this for the sake of the

    genuine, but we need to seriously consider whether or not God approves of allowing the genuine to be

    mixed with the false.

    What is the fruit of allowing false manifestations to intermingle with the genuine?

    Well, first, we should understand that what is referred to here in a disarming way as “hamburger helper”

    really amounts to nothing more than either the deceit of man’s heart, or lying signs and wonders.

    Should we allow these things into the Church?

    “44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a

    murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him.

    When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.”

    ~John 8:44

    “Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but those who act faithfully are his delight.” ~Proverbs 12:22

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    “Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to

    deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own

    conscience seared with a hot iron,” ~1st Timothy 4:1-2

    “9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and

    lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did

    not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.” ~2nd Thessalonians 2:9-10

    To me, the fruit of this doctrine has an adulterating effect upon the Church because it commingles the

    profane with the holy; it appears to be more in line with the wine of the Harlot’s fornication that causes

    all the inhabitants of the world to become drunk.

    You have to use discernment to decide if you think it is acceptable in the Lord’s Church to comingle the

    false with the genuine.

    A GENUINE MANIFESTATION OF THE SPIRIT My biggest concern is not if these manifestations are a genuine spiritual manifestation (they could have

    many sources) but, whether or not they are from God. Do they agree with what we have revealed to us

    in God’s word about the manifestations of the Holy Spirit?

    Mike Bickle approves of behaviors like “uncontrollable laughter”, “violent shaking”, “heat-waves”, and

    “throwing oneself into walls” as genuine manifestations of the Holy Spirit.

    So we’re going to keep Ephesians 5:9, Galatians 5:22, and 2nd Peter 1:3-10, in mind as we proceed to

    test these things to see if they agree with godliness and bear the fruits of the Spirit.

    Let’s go to Mark 9:19-29:

    He answered him and said, “O faithless generation, how long shall I be with you? How long shall I bear with you? Bring him to Me.” Then they brought him to Him. And when he saw Him, immediately the spirit convulsed him, and he fell on the ground and wallowed, foaming at the mouth. So He asked his father, “How long has this been happening to him?” And he said, “From childhood. And often he has thrown him both into the fire and into the water to destroy him. But if You can do anything, have compassion on us and help us.” Jesus said to him, “If You can believe, all things are possible to him who believes.” Immediately the father of the child cried out and said with tears, “Lord, I believe; help my unbelief!” When Jesus saw that the people came running together, He rebuked the unclean spirit, saying to it, “Deaf and dumb spirit, I command you, come out of him and enter him no more!” Then the

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    spirit cried out, convulsed him greatly, and came out of him. And he became as one dead, so that many said, “He is dead.” But Jesus took him by the hand and lifted him up, and he arose. And when He had come into the house, His disciples asked Him privately, “Why could we not cast it out?” So He said to them, “This kind can come out by nothing but prayer and fasting.”

    It is very troubling to me that these manifestations seem to compare more favorably with the demonic

    manifestations found in the Bible. Many missionaries today, all over the world, will tell you that they

    recognize these behaviors as demonic, and have cast demons out of such people.

    I have to say upfront that I don’t believe the manifestations of the Holy Spirit are so similar to those of

    demons that they can be so easily confused.

    What we see in Mark 9 is a young boy that was being thrown into fits of convulsing by a deaf and dumb

    demon; eerily similar to the things we see of people being thrown against a wall, this young boy was

    thrown into fire and water.

    The Word says,

    “What communion has light with darkness? 16 And what agreement has the temple of God with

    idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said: ‘I will dwell in them and walk

    among them. I will be their God, and they shall be My people.’ 17 Therefore, ‘Come out from

    among them and be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, and I will receive

    you.’” ~2nd Corinthians 6:14, 16-17

    The light has nothing in common with darkness, as the temple of God has no fellowship with idols;

    demons do not work the same work as the Spirit. The Spirit works sanctification, sprinkles the heart

    clean with the blood of Christ, sets us apart for obedience unto Him, gives us a new and living heart, and

    testifies of Christ to the glory of His name. There is no love, joy, peace, patience, gentleness, kindness,

    or godliness in uncontrollable laughter, violent shaking, convulsing, throwing oneself against walls, or

    the like.

    Can we say with a clear conscience before God that these things are from Him?

    Let’s take a look at the next three videos: video 1, video 2, and video 3 (this one is from IHOP University).

    I don’t want your conclusions to be based on the word of men; so I encourage you to use discernment

    and test these things by the Word of God to see whether or not they agree with godliness and are in all

    goodness, righteousness, and truth. But, if these things are not from God, they are the fruit of deceitful

    hearts or lying signs, and we must ask if it is acceptable to allow them in the Bride of Christ?

    http://youtu.be/CVNLfHInqsU?t=23shttp://youtu.be/FMRuj4ikiKghttp://youtu.be/wPhDxAQSpEE

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    THREE PERSPECTIVES Now we want to take a look at his three perspectives on the manifestations of the Holy Spirit:

    Perspective #1

    “When the Holy Spirit genuinely touches you, you may laugh, fall, shake, scream, but some

    people think that if the Holy Spirit touches them in one way, they have to do it every single time

    He comes upon them.

    So, when the Spirit touches you, express it, but don’t do the same thing for the next four

    months if he’s not touching you in that way.

    Sometimes people are doing it for a show. But the manifestation of the Spirit isn’t about other

    people thinking that you have an anointing, it’s about you and Jesus. Sometimes they are just

    kind of “throwing up a kite to try and catch the Spirit”, thinking of they do it, “He’ll come”.

    Here’s a principle that I’ve come up with: 80% of these manifestations are not real, but 20% of

    them are real.”

    Perspective #2

    “Auto-manifesters are those who just go into auto-manifest mode. The very thing that released

    you to do that a few months ago, is the very thing that is hindering you now. If you would get

    out of that auto-mode, you’ll actually connect more. The Spirit’s trying to talk to you, but you

    won’t ‘shut up’ long enough to hear.

    If the very thing that made you manifest it in a genuine way, if you continue it in a religious form,

    if you continue in it, it will actually hinder you.”

    Perspective #3

    “Having a manifestation culture, or auto-manifest, distracts the people next to you. One

    screamer can hold a 100 people hostage because of them screaming. They can’t connect to the

    Lord. I want this to be an environment of genuine connecting with God. We don’t want to get

    in the way of that. Think of those around you who are trying to touch God for real. Don’t hinder

    them.”

    I believe the error here is in the fruit that he has approved of manifestations that do not bear the fruit of

    the Holy Spirit; convulsing manifestations do not produce godliness. They always bring chaos. There is

    no real benefit to the body, just a cheap substitute of momentary enthusiasm.

    So, although I do not disagree with his exhortation to express in a genuine way what the Spirit is

    touching you to do, he goes on to encourage people to express things that I do not believe are from God.

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    Let’s consider this question about genuine manifestations: if the Spirit moves upon us to cause us to

    prophesy something, and what we speak comes 100% true, we know it is from God. But are we now at

    liberty to prophesy whenever we want, even when the Spirit is not moving us to do so?

    Of course we would probably say, “no”; we should only prophesy when the Spirit authentically moves us

    to prophesy. But why?

    The reason why we should not prophesy when the Spirit does not move us is not merely because it will

    make it harder to connect with Jesus, or simply because you’ll make it harder for those around you to

    connect with Jesus, it’s because the prophet who prophesies falsely incurs judgment and condemnation

    upon himself (Jeremiah 23:9-15)!

    One final note on this section of the video that I have is that Mike Bickle gave no sound warning of God’s

    judgment, nor rebuke for sin, nor sound instruction for the righteousness. These three things are the

    things that the Holy Spirit comes to convict people about, but they are absent in his teaching.

    The reason why this is such a concern for me is not merely for the sake of “form”; I don’t care about

    “pastoral techniques” unless they are from God. But, it is because I do not see the fruit of the Holy Spirit

    here, but instead, I see the philosophy of men deceiving men by that which appears wise in our age.

    Consider what Paul said of the work of various ministries in the Church:

    “for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, till

    we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to

    the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; that we should no longer be children, tossed

    to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning

    craftiness of deceitful plotting, but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him

    who is the head—Christ—from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every

    joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes

    growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.” (Eph. 4:12-16).

    GENUINENESS “Young people are always worrying about what they should do. Stop worrying about what you

    should do and start worrying about being genuine.” ~Mike Bickle

    I’m a little bit baffled when I hear people acting like we must have either one or the other; being either

    concerned with what we should do, or with being genuine, but not both. The Lord rebuked the scribes

    and Pharisees because they neglected weightier matters of the law, when they ought to observed both

    the commandments and the genuine expressions of the Law (Matthew 23:23).

    But I am concerned: does his doctrine agree with godliness and produce the fruit of the Spirit?

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    Consider what Hezekiah said of genuineness:

    “‘Remember now, O Lord, I pray, how I have walked before You in truth and with a whole heart,

    and have done what was good in Your sight.’ And Hezekiah wept bitterly.” ~2nd Kings 20:3

    Hezekiah says that he walked before God in truth and a genuine heart; it seems to me that it is

    impossible to do one without the other.

    In fact, is it even possible to walk before God with a genuine heart if we are not concerned with what we

    are supposed to do to please Him? When the men of Israel were pierced to the heart by Peter’s sermon

    after Pentecost, their first response was “what must we do?” (Acts 2:37) Peter did not say, “guys! Stop

    worrying about what you should do and start worrying about being genuine!” He instructed them in

    truth!

    But what are the consequences if we don’t worry about what we should do and we reject God’s will?

    “7 For God did not call us to uncleanness, but in holiness. 8 Therefore he who rejects this does

    not reject man, but God, who has also given us His Holy Spirit.” 1st Thessalonians 4:7-8

    Man, this touches everything! If we reject God’s call, it’s not man that we reject, but God, who gave us

    His Holy Spirit. It’s as if we are not only rejecting God, but His Holy Spirit too!

    What is the fruit of encouraging young adults who look up to you not to worry about what they ought to

    do?

    Then, Paul said that anyone who did not acknowledge that the order he taught in 1st Corinthians 14

    were the commandments of the Lord was, himself, not to be recognized (1st Cor. 14:38).

    Indeed, John wrote,

    “22 And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do

    those things that are pleasing in His sight.” ~1st John 3:22

    He said he was speaking “pastorally” (as their shepherd) and not “correctively”, but, if we are diligent to

    test all things, we would see that this does not consent to the sound words found in scripture. Paul

    instructed pastors to “correct” and “rebuke” (2nd Timothy 4:2).

    Consider the prophets,

    “Those who lead you cause you to err, and destroy the way of your paths.” ~Isaiah 3:12

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    “My people have been lost sheep. Their shepherds have led them astray.” ~Jeremiah 50:6

    SUMMARY AND FINAL VIDEO Nothing can describe better the times that we live in than the words of the Holy Spirit, saying, “perilous

    times will come”, and I can think of no better admonishment than Paul’s words, “walk circumspectly

    because the days are evil”.

    I know that I have had to write in a critical manner with words that are candidly forthright; I truly mean

    what I said in the beginning that these words are not meant to be a cannonball aimed at Mike Bickle.

    My heart genuinely goes out to him the more I hear him talk. But I am deeply touched by the

    exceedingly dangerous errors that I see being presented in such a disarmingly charming way.

    The fruit of the teachings I hear here are not going to produce godliness.

    If you are involved with IHOP, I urge caution; I don’t condemn you or anyone else in the movement, but I

    wholeheartedly urge you, with every fiber of my being, to test all things so that you are not deceived,

    and if you see that the doctrines and fruit coming from Mike Bickle and the IHOP movement do not

    produce godliness, or are not in all goodness, righteousness, and truth, “withdraw yourself”!

    Here is our fourth and final video: David Wilkerson’s perspective on “Weird Manifestations in the

    Church”.

    Test all things, brethren.

    http://youtu.be/IrpW6Xctg8Qhttp://youtu.be/IrpW6Xctg8Q