Preparation  for  Transfer  from  a    California  Community  College  

 

Nicola  Place  

•  Transfer  Center  Director,  Diablo  Valley  College  (Retired)  

•  Assistant  Director  of  Admissions,  Mills  College  

Dennis  Franco  

•  Counselor  and    Counseling    

Department  Chair  Diablo  Valley  College  

 

 

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Presented  to  WACAC  Share,  Learn  and  Connect  3.19.15  

Why  Attend  a  California  Community  College  (CCC)?  

•  The  tangibles:  •  Cost  

•  Convenience    

•  In  most  cases,  smaller  class  sizes  

•  Great  transfer  path  to  UC,  CSU  and  private  colleges  

 

•  The  intangibles:  •  Greatest  variety  of  people  of  any  education  system  

•  Breadth  of  academic  missions  &  options  

•  Fosters  development  of  resilience,  adaptability,  tolerance,  resourcefulness,  camaraderie,  and,  hopefully…    

a  sense  of  humor.    J  

Great  transfer  path:  Admit  Rates  of  Transfer  Students  coming  from    California  Community  Colleges  Fall  2014      

•  UC  Berkeley:  23%  admitted,    94%  from  CCCs            (Frosh  rate  was  17.3%)  

•  UC  Davis:    57%  admitted,      93%  from  CCCs            (Frosh  rate:  40.6%)  

•  UCLA:      27%  admitted,    93%  from  CCCs            (Frosh  rate:  18.2%)  

•  USC:        28%  admitted,    53%  from  CCCs              (Frosh  rate:  18%)  

•  Saint  Mary’s:  66%  admitted,  73%  from  CCCs  

•  Mills:  More  than  30%  of  students  are  transfers  

Preparation  for  Transfer:    Two  Parts  and  One  Universal  Truth  

Academic  preparation    

Financial  preparation    

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The  universal  truth  about    transfer  preparation:    

IT  DEPENDS  

Preparation  for  Transfer:  How  students  start  at  the  CCCs  

•  SB  1456:  Student  Success  Act  (2012)  Mandates  •  New  community  college  students  now  must:  

1.  Apply  2. Be  Assessed  for  English  and  Math  

3.  Attend  an  Orientation  (online  or  in  person)  

4.  Create  an  Ed  Plan  in  consultation  with  a  counselor  

5.  Register  

•  When  to  begin?    EARLIER  than  you  might  think:  January.  

Academic  Preparation:  What’s  in  a  degree?    

Gen  Ed:    ~40  units    LD  at  CCC  UD  at  4-­‐year  

Major:    ~40-­‐80  units  LD  at  CCC  

UD  at  4-­‐year  

Electives:  ~0-­‐40  units  At  CCC  and/or  At  4-­‐year  

LD  =  Lower  Division  UD  =  Upper  Division  

Total  Units  Needed  for  a  Bachelors:  120+  

Minimum  Requirements  to  Apply-­‐    The  super  simple  version:  

UC  and  CSU  Required  Minimum  Transfer  Eligibility    •  60+  TRANSFERABLE  units  

•  General  Education  of  some  form  

•  Major  preparation  if  stipulated  

•  Minimum  specified  GPA    

Private  (Independent)  Colleges  and  Universities  •  Varies  by  school  but  usually  less  stringent  than  UC/CSU    

       

   (See  handout  for  more  details.)  

 

So  what  should  students  take?  

Not  sure  of  major  yet?  • English:  Early  and  often  

• Math:  Early  and  often  

And  in  addition:  • Other  general  ed  

It  depends!  

Interested  in  Science?  • English:  Early  and  often  • Math:  Early  and  often  • Get  started  with  chem  as  soon  as  possible  

And  in  addition:  • Other  general  ed  

CCC  General  Education  Options    

•  “IGETC”  =  Inter-­‐segmental  GE  Transfer  Curriculum  •  Accepted  by  UC,  CSU  and  most  CA  private  schools  

 

•  “CSU  GE”  =  California  State  University  GE  •  Accepted  by  CSU  and  most  CA  private  schools  

 

•  CCC  Campus  GE  =  The  community  college’s  GE.    •  Often  meets  AA/AS  but  will  not  suffice  for  transfer    

 

NOTE:  Most  PRIVATE  schools  do  NOT  require  students  to  complete  GE  prior  to  transfer  –  but  it  may  be  advantageous  to  do  so  

Key  points  about  IGETC  

•  It  was  created  for  UC  and  CSU;  is  now  widely  recognized  by  private  schools  and  some  out-­‐of-­‐state  schools  (OR,  NV)  

•  39+  units,  “C”  or  better  in  all  •  Consists  of  5  +  1  Areas:    English,  Math,  Social,  Arts,    Science  plus  LOTE  (UC)  or  Speech  (CSU)  

•  The  6  “Areas”  are  universal  and  apply  statewide:    •  Once  an  area  is  completed  at  one  CCC,  no  need  to  do  again.  

•  For  UC/CSU:  If  whole  pattern  is  completed,  it  completely  fulfills  the  Lower  Division  GE  requirement.  

•  Good  for  many  majors;  NOT  good  for  “High  Unit”  majors  (i.e.,  engineering,  chemistry,  etc.)  

Beyond  General  Ed:  Major  Preparation  

• Major  Prep  is  often  required  prior  to  transfer.  

• Most  common  in  the  UC  system  but  also  in  the  highly  selective  programs  in  the  CSU.  

•  For  UC  and  CSU  major  prep  requirements  go  to:    

www.assist.org  

•  Also  see  the  community  college  counselor  –  every  term.  

•  For  private  schools  also  contact  them  directly  –  early  and  often!  

How  to  apply  to  transfer:  

•  UC:  Has  their  own  online  application  

 

•  CSU:  CSU  Mentor  

 

•  Private  schools:    Many  now  using  Common  Application  for  transfer  students.    •  TIP:  Contact  the  school  to  verify  what’s  required  when  

using  the  Common  App.  

UC  Transfer  Admission  Guarantees  (TAGs)  

•  Yes,  they  exist  and  they  work  for  6  UC  campuses.  Davis,  Irvine,  Merced,  Riverside,  SB,  Santa  Cruz  

•  Search  Google  for  UC  TAGs  •  Things  to  remember:  •  For  most  campuses,  2  English  courses  and  transfer  math  must  

be  completed  by  the  end  of  the  Fall  prior  to  transfer  

•  Even  if  you  are  granted  a  TAG,  you  must  STILL  complete  and  submit  the  full  UC  application  

 

AA-­‐T  and  AS-­‐T  Degrees  for  CSU  Admissions  

•  Good  for  CSU  if  the  campus  deems  major  and  concentration  as  “similar”    

•  Often  aids  in  helping  to  streamline  requirements  when  applying  to  multiple  CSUs    

•  Guarantees  completion  of  BA\BS  within  60  units  after  transfer  –  will  provide  small  bump  in  GPA  for  impacted  campuses\majors  

 

And  one  slide  on  financial  preparation  for  transfer:  

The  two  most  common  reasons  why  students  didn’t  receive  Federal,  State  or  Institutional  funding  are:    

1.  They  did  not  apply  (or  didn’t  re-­‐apply)  2.  They  applied  late  

•  SO:  Apply  EARLY  and  apply    EVERY    YEAR.  

In  closing:    

•  Like  4-­‐year  schools,  but  even  more  so,  the  CCC  system  favors  the  early  &  organized  for  transfer  progress  and  success.    

•  UC  and  CSU  transfer  entry  requirements  are  inflexible.    

 

•  Private  colleges  and  universities  have  more  flexibility  in  transfer  entry  requirements  and  in  awarding  funds.  

 

•  Better  funding  comes  to  the  early  birds.      

Questions?  

Resources:  

•  www.  assist.org  

•  CaliforniaColleges.edu    (hosted  by  AICCU)  •  UC  websites,  counselor  conferences,  e-­‐mail  groups  

•  CSU  websites  and  counselor  conferences  

• WACAC  trainings  and  conferences  

Thank  you  for  caring  about  transfer  students!!!  

More  on  the  money  

•  The  Big  4  money  sources:  1.   Federal  Government:  FAFSA.  

Pell  grants,  Work  Study,  Stafford  loans  

2.  State  of  California:    AB-­‐540  status.    Cal  Grant.  Dreamer  Grant.  

3.  Schools:    App  fee  waivers.  Merit  scholarships.  Other  non-­‐cash.  

4.  Others:    

•  Big  national:    Jack  Kent  Cooke.  Nike.    Gates.  

•  Small  local:    Lions.  Rossmoor.  Churches.    Et  al.  

•  Wide  range  of  qualifiers;  don’t  need  a  4.0.  

 How  to  get  more  money?  Apply,  on  time.    

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