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Present and future challenges in radiation protection by the young generation – perspective from Electrabel Benoit Lance (GDF-SUEZ), ABR-BVS, 19th September 2014

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Present and future challenges in radiation protection by the young generation – perspective from Electrabel

Benoit Lance (GDF-SUEZ), ABR-BVS, 19th September 2014

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■ Radiation protection organization and interviewed personnel

■ Outcome from Q1 “How you came into contact with radiation protection ?”

■ Outcome from Q2 “What are you doing & why you like it ?”

■ Outcome from Q3 “Challenges for the young generation ?”

■ Conclusions

Index

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Process Performance Management QA

Infrastructure IT & Telecom

Procurement

Warehouse

Asset Management & Safety

KC DOEL CN TIHANGE

Communication interne/externe

Communication interne/externe

Care Care

Operations

Maintenance

Engineering

Operations

Maintenance

Engineering

Competence & Training Center

HR Partner

Centre des Compétences en gestion documentaire

Nuclear Fuel

Finance & Controlling

Continuous Improvement Mgt

Continuous Improvement Mgt

~350 p

~350 p

~50 p

~75 p

Radiation protection organization and interviewed personnel (1)

~350 p

~350 p

~50 p

~75 p

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Radiation protection organization and interviewed personnel (2)

Site Director

Nuclear safety

Radiation Protection

Environment

CARE OPERATIONS MAINTENANCE ENGINEERING

Nuclear security

Fire protection

Industrial safety

Emergency

Corporate Nuclear Safety Department

~ 75 p

~ 60 p (3 managers, ~ 8 supervisors, ~ 50 technicians) RP staff is extended during NPP outages ~ 30,000 RCA entries in a month

~ 25 p, of which ~ 5p focussed on RP

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Age distribution @ CNT and @ KCD for the RP staff

- less than 10 persons per site belonging to the category “< 30y”

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Radiation protection organization and interviewed personnel (3)

0

2

4

6

8

10

12

14

16

18

y < 30 30 ≤ y < 40 40 ≤ y < 50 50 ≤ y < 60 y ≥ 60

KCD

CNT

Gender distribution @ CNT and @ KCD for the RP staff

- 20% female representation @ KCD >> only 4% @ CNT

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Radiation protection organization and interviewed personnel (4)

Doel Corporate Tihange

Managers F, 29y F, 30 y M, 42 y

F, 34y

Supervisors * M, 55y M, 54y M, 31y

Technicians M, 27y M, 26y

* M, 28y

9 interviews + myself

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Outcome from Q1 “How you came into contact with RP ?”

Majority of answers tend to show that working in RP is a deliberate choice, driven by technical / scientific interest

- “What about radiation protection ?”

- “What about radiologically controlled areas ?”

- “What about the working of measurement devices ?”

Furthermore, working in a nuclear power plant is also a deliberate choice

- Want to do a job that differs as compared to the others

- Motivated by producing electricity in a safe way

Various ways towards RP :

- In contact with RP working as a contractor

- Friends or family members already working for EBL

- First job and deliberate choice

- Carreer reorientation

Background of our RP personnel :

- Managers : industrial / civil engineers (chemistry, electro-mechanics, physics)

- Technicians : technical degree (chemistry, electro-mechanics)

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Outcome from Q2 “What are you doing & why you like it ?” (1)

What are you doing ?

Sites RP people managers / supervisors : work coordination, coaching, supervision, procedures, …

Sites RP technicians : RP maps, RP measurements & controls, check of transport of radioactive material, calibration of devices, support of personnel leaving the RCA, tracking of the contamination, etc…

Corporate RP experts : in charge of RP “governance”

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Outcome from Q2 “What are you doing & why you like it ?” (2)

Why you like it ?

Coaching of young RP colleagues (e.g. measurements)

It is a different job as compared to others (but complex to share with your neighbourhood)

RP personnel manages all works performed in the RCA (risk management in the RCA)

Diversified work – a different job from day to day

Transport of radioactive material : “each transport is different”

Much contact with the workers of all departments and other companies

Striving for the reduction of the radiological impact

RP is not an exact science ; human being is at the core of the business

Scientifically grounded and challenging

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Outcome from Q3 “Challenges for the young generation ?” (1)

What is working good or bad with RP ?

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Working good for RP Working bad for RP

Good evolution of the RP results for the EBL NPP’s, as well as for foreign NPP’s

No RP school for technicians

Better management of the work in RCA Too procedurial approach

RP personnel welcomed by NPP workers (radiation risk awareness)

Additional regulatory constraint for which the perceived added value is low

Knowledge progress in radiological data (ICRP, UNSCEAR)

No RP education for the public (“10,000 Bq ! It’s frightening !”)

Improvements in medical devices (less exposure)

Much RP routine work > < RP analysis (consideration of REX)

Acknowledgement of the RP personnel competence

Difficulty to recruit young RP’s, because RP is unknown and poor perspective for nuclear plants

No view on RP practices elsewhere (technicians)

RP requirements medical sector << NPP

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Outcome from Q3 “Challenges for the young generation ?” (2)

Challenges for / and perceived by the young generation

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Changing context impacting EBL

• Engagement, training and knowledge transfer of young RP technicians

• Dismantling of NPP’s (incl. clearance of waste), new projects (LTO)

Continuous improvement at EBL

• Harmonization of the regulations for transport of radioactive material at the European scale (no national particularities, please)

• Keep RP practicable (>< regulations ?)

• Harmonization of the RP practices

• Broader view on RP for technicians (or enlarged RP culture)

• How to increase the performance when you are already good ?

• RP responsibility of the non RP specialists

Outside EBL

• Better communicate about radioactivity and RP

• Make the RP public perception more objective

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Analysis of the interviews

Experienced RP personnel identifies promptly the fundamental overall problems of RP

- But no significant disagreement between age categories (“ < 30y ” and “ > 50y “)

However significant gap between technicians and managers

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Managers Technicians

Know “why” Know “how”

Know foreign practices Know only their unit / site

Few presence in RCA, because of project / people management

Moderate to high presence in RCA, depending on hierarchy position

Managers Technicians Managers Technicians

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A personal thinking

3 differents worlds…

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The scientists

Universities, research

centers, scientific

committees (ICRP,

UNSCEAR), …

The regulators

IAEA, EU, HERCA,

national regulators,

TSO (IRSN, Bel V), …

The utilities

National utilities,

WANO, ENISS, INPO

ISOE,

ALARA

network

?

Personal viewpoint : importance of the interfaces between the 3 worlds

RP associations !

IRPA,

SFRP,

BVS,

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Conclusions

Working in RP is a deliberate choice and RP staff is made of people having typical backgrounds

: diversity, technique / science, social dimension

Challenges for the young generation :

Changing context in Belgium dismantling of NPP’s

Recruitment, training and knowledge transfer of young RP technicians

Enhanced exchange between the various RP practitioners

Harmonization of RP practices

Enlarged RP perspective

Better matching between relevant regulations and industrial constraints

Public education

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