PresentSep 12, 2012 · Sketch provided by Doug Cook of Counsilman-Hunsaker on a possible configuration of a 50 meter pool that would meet needs of Mt. Edgecumbe, Troopers and Coast

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Mt. Edgecumbe H.S. Aquatic Facility

Meeting Notes

08.23.12 – 08.24.12

J. Shin

Meeting with Public Safety (Troopers)

8/23/12 @ 9:00a

Sitka Public Safety Training Academy

Present:

(JH) Lt. Jim Helgoe - DPS – academy instructor, cold water training,

(LE) Cpl. Lance Ewers - DPS – academy instructor, former Marine, lifeguard, pool combat training, Red

Cross instructor, scuba, fire department, instructs Mt. Edgecumbe students for aquatic related skills

(ES) Cpl. Eric Spitzer - DPS – academy instructor, former Marine, rescue and combat training instructor

(EN) Elizabeth Nudelman – EED – Division Director

(KM) Kim Mahoney – DOT/PF – Project Manager

(DC) Doug Cook, PE – Counsilman Hunsaker – aquatic facility consultant

(BM) Brian Meissner, AIA – ECI/Hyer – Contracts Manager

(JS) Jae Shin, AIA – ECI/ Hyer – Project Manager

Features/Amenities:

• 50m pool preferred – better for actual swim duration rather than glide portions after kicking

off from walls. Underwater swimming training better due to duration and focus.

• Tower for diving/training – facilitates training in immersion suits, developing courage and

comfort with high water entry. Mid-height and high towers preferred.

• Concrete bleachers –located at end of pool for training sessions. Easy to maintain & durable.

No space under to prevent dropped articles.

• Catwalk above pool – for suspension of ropes and other training props

• Cupola – for natural light and ventilation

• Flexibility – pool should be designed for more than just lap swimming, recreational

opportunities to make learning fun.

• Durable materials at deck, sides and bottom of pool – to prevent damage from heavy props

such as scuba tanks, training props used during underwater automobile/air craft rescue.

Concerned about damage to tile. Could have an area of the pool that’s padded/protected

• Storage - ~ 200 SF needed. Could be in shared storage room. Each users equipment could be

secured with cage type enclosures

• Locker rooms – larger is better

• Adequate deck area for training, staging and training

• Pool Temperature – warmer is better for training because cadets are often idle and makes it

more inviting to small children for lessons

• Sauna/ hot tub – for community use as well as rehabilitation needs

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• Possibility to share pool with coast guard but not with kids/civilians. Paramilitary

environment, stress inoculation/ verbal encouragement.

• Water fountains on deck to preserve time to train

• Showers on deck to ensure cadets have showered prior to entering pool; helps with

cleanliness of pool and gear worn into pool. Four heads.

• Restrooms in close proximity to pool to promote their use (instead of folks relieving

themselves in pool)

• Adequate storage of lane lines – hazard currently laying on pool deck

• Prefers platform/ tower in lieu of diving spring board – one recruit stepping off platform at

one time. Prefer platform to be as high as possible.

• Rope climbing – under supervision, stored/ secured when not in use

• Rope ladder or cargo net suspended 8’ above water for training

• Ladders should be recessed into pool wall so that they are out of the way for competition

swimming

• Decks should be slip resistant – not PVC nor rubber

• Need double doors for easy access for ambulance gurney

Program/ Use:

• LECC (Law Enforcement Cadet Corps) Cadet training – lifeguards, CPR training, first aid

training. Trains Mt. Edgecumbe students

• Teaching Mt. Edgecumbe students water skills. Building confidence and rescued skills that

can be taken back to their communities.

• Other uses – 8 man raft training

• Rehabilitation and continue to exercise despite injuries

• Use index – academy trains 56 to 21 recruits twice a year. 20 to 50 cadets training in pool at

one time.

• Currently paying hourly rate to City of Sitka for use (~$45/hour)

• Current use – twice a week for 45 minutes. Needs more time that current for training.

Questions by DPS:

• Operational costs? (resp. – Approx. $1 million per year.)

• Sites being considered? (resp. – 4 sites on Japonski Island.)

• Schedule of completion? (resp. – Best case scenario would be fall of 2015)

Operational info forthcoming from DPS regarding Blatchley Pool – City of Sitka? Community Schools?

Annual cost to use pool forthcoming.

Contacts:

Michigan State Police – 517-322-5596 1st Lt. Steve O’Neil. Training division. Has great aquatic training

facility.

(Meeting end 10:12 am)

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Meeting with Coast Guard

8/23/12 @ 10:30a

Coast Guard Base on Japonski Island

Present:

(MP) Christopher Mark Philips – Coast Guard – arrived in Sitka 2 weeks prior. Contact: 907.966.5568






Features/ Amenities:

• Min. 25m or yards in length

• Min. 20’ wide

• Portion of the pool be min. 10’ deep

• 10’x10’ min. but prefer 20’x20’ storage space with double doors and floor drains

• Double set of doors from/to exterior for large equipment

• Space to hang 28’ parachute, preferably in the storage room

• Ropes course (16)

• 15’ ht. deployment tower

• Access to locker room facilities

• Desired temp. of 78-82 degrees F.

Program/ Use:

• Need (2) 2-hour blocks per week (8-10am) – up to 10 trainees

• Need (6) 8-hour blocks per year during the week – up to 40-60 trainees

• Underwater vehicle/aircraft rescue prop. Approximately 6’x’6’x4’ – metal frame with seat

• Lifeboat – approx. 6’x6’

• AMSEA (Alaska Marine Safety Education Association) - AMSEA'S mission: Reduce injury and

death in the marine and freshwater environment through education and training provided by a

network of qualified marine safety instructors

• Willing to be in facility at the same time as Troopers

• Willing to pay/rent pool

(Meeting end 11:30 am)

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Meeting with Executive Committee

8/23/12 @ 1:13 pm

Mt. Edgecumbe – Randy Hawk’s Office

Present:

(RH) Randy Hawk - MEHS Superintendent

(SJ) Stan Johnson – MEHS Building Maintenance Superintendent






Recap of morning’s discussion with Troopers and Coast Guard – good opportunity for MEHS students for

aquatic related curriculum.

Operations and Maintenance:

• Need pool manager and pool maintenance personnel

• Pay rate of maintenance personnel a problem – attracting and retaining talented personnel

problematic

Use:

• P.E. classes vary between 25 to 30 students

• Schedules vary

• School schedule – seniors out by 2:30, others out at 4pm. Recreation times could be between

2:30 to 5:00 and after dinner 6:45 to 9:45.

(Meeting end 2:15pm)

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Meeting with Building Committee

8/24/12 @ 1:00 pm

Mt. Edgecumbe HS Science Classroom

Present:

(BG) Bernie Gurule – MEHS - Academic Principal

(CB) Carl Blackhurst – MEHS - Recreation Coordinator

(MM) Michael Mahoney – MEHS - Teacher (potential swim coach & most swimming experience)

(AY) Archie Young – MEHS - PE Teacher (for Rich Calkins)






Site:

• Strong suggestions against site 4 (Alice Island) due to distance from MEHS campus. Safety a

concern as well as connectivity to existing power plant infrastructure

• Site 2 & 3 preferred with an emphasis on site 3 (old power plant site)

Programmatic Needs:

• Recreation – would like water slides

• Water Safety

• Competitive swimming – estimate 50-70 members, water polo as a P.E. activity or club sport, 1

meter board, kayak, snorkeling, scuba and canoeing

• Physical Therapy – for rehab of athletes

Features/ Amenities:

• 25 yd. min. with another separate body of water for training

• Adequate storage

Schedule:

• 8:30p – 9:45p – recreation swimming

• 4:00p – 6:30p – Swim team/clubs

• Summer operation – TBD – cost of pool operation needs to be considered including staffing

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Sketch provided by Doug Cook of Counsilman-Hunsaker on a possible configuration of a 50 meter pool

that would meet needs of Mt. Edgecumbe, Troopers and Coast Guard (configuration shown below is in

‘recreation’ mode vs. training or competition mode)

Final thoughts:

• Balance between training, recreation and competition

• Next meeting to be towards the end of September

• Goals between now and then – establish site selection and configuration of pool

(Meeting end 2:47 pm)

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Meeting with Public

8/24/12 @ 4:30 pm

Mt. Edgecumbe Field Building Meeting Room

Present:

Approximately 40 participants from the public






Public Comments:

Suha Tokman (local swim coach)

• 50 m competition swimming pool

• Separate warm up/ warm down pool

• 10 lanes

• Bulkhead

• 1 meter springboard diving

• Team has 100 kids

• Good filtration system and state of the art equipment

• Huge deck areas for staging and teams

• No waterslides blocking lanes

• Swim camps could be run there

• Get future pool manager involved now in the design process

• Currently the local teams cannot be competitive because they do not have a diving program (or

facilities). This takes away from the total points allocated to a team.

• Currently have only 1 hour for coaching which is a joke, need 3 hours

• Simple and functional

More public comments/questions:

• Concern about operational burden to the community

• Aqua rehab desired with water temps around 92 degrees

• Community needs amenities for older/senior generation

• The new facility could be economic engine

• Is it more economical to develop project by private sector versus through the State? (resp. – no,

the cost is the same and the quality better managed)

• Have you explored alternative energy systems? (resp. – yes, many types including ground source

heat pumps, heat recovery systems and pool covers)

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• What’s the availability to the public and what will the fees be? (resp. – not established at this

time but the priority would go to Mt. Edgecumbe High School, Troopers and Coast Guard.)

Photos of participants:

(Meeting end 6:30pm)

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PresentSep 12, 2012 · Sketch provided by Doug Cook of Counsilman-Hunsaker on a possible configuration of a 50 meter pool that would meet needs of Mt. Edgecumbe, Troopers and Coast