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Professional Advisor or Professional Dream Crusher When Student’s Goals and Expectations Collide with Reality 2012 NACADA National Conference Concurrent Session 215 Jessica Bigger, Jessica Kelso, Betsy Loe, Courtney Brafford University of Memphis

Professional Advisor or Professional Dream Crusher When Student’s Goals and Expectations Collide with Reality 2012 NACADA National Conference Concurrent

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Page 1: Professional Advisor or Professional Dream Crusher When Student’s Goals and Expectations Collide with Reality 2012 NACADA National Conference Concurrent

Professional Advisoror

Professional Dream Crusher

When Student’s Goals and Expectations Collide with Reality

2012 NACADA National ConferenceConcurrent Session 215

Jessica Bigger, Jessica Kelso, Betsy Loe, Courtney BraffordUniversity of Memphis

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Have we all been here?

You Can Do Anything!!

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Introductions

• Three “generalist” advisors from the Academic Counseling Center– Undecided, pre-nursing, pre-major• 70% of incoming freshmen are advised in the ACC• Various departments (i.e. Biology) do not allow

freshman to declare until specific coursework is completed

• Pre-Health advisor to the entire campus

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Pre-health Defined

• Students planning on entering healthcare focused on direct patient care – Pre-Nursing– Pre-Med– Pre-Dental– Pre-Pharmacy– Pre-Physical Therapy– Allied Health

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Profile of “Pre-health” Students

• Summary of New Student Orientation (NSO) data of pre-health students- 1,987 new freshmen in fall 2012• 548 “Pre-health” (27%), and of that, 333 Pre-nursing• ACT Average = 23• 224 with an ACT subscore below 18

- Transfer, Post-bac, second degree

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Profile of “Pre-health” students

• Motivation– Money– Prestige– Help people– Parental expectations

– Assumption of a guaranteed job

– Pop culture depictions of medical field

• Challenges– Lack of knowledge– Inflated sense of self– Poor academic

preparation

– Lack of support– Obligations outside of

school– Parental pressure

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Profile of Successful Pre-health Students

• Admissions criteria– National admissions data for medical school – U of M data

• 41% of “pre-med” students were admitted to medical school between 2009-2011 – When looking at competitive applicants (3.6+ GPA/27+ MCAT), our

success rate jumps to 77% during that same period

– Nursing• Average GPA of 3.5• Required coursework

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Characteristics of a successful applicant

External Factors• High overall GPA/science

GPA• Clinical experience• Volunteerism/Community

Service• Research experience• Student involvement

Internal Factors• Empathy• Commitment to serve• Good judgment• Intellectual curiosity• Life-long learning

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Who are these students?

The Last to Know

The Farsighted

The Innocents

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Pre-health Students

• The Innocents– New student with few (if any) college credits– Initial meeting during Orientation and/or pre-matriculation

• The Farsighted– Continuing student making poor progress toward

major/career goals• Current or transfer student

– Earned GPA, coursework, etc but no major officially declared• The Last to Know

– Upperclassmen with a declared major evaluating post-secondary options

– 2nd degree students

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Advising Pre-health Students

• Discussions with the Innocents should include: – Motivation for major/career choice• May be used later for redirection

– Interests, strengths, abilities, etc– Explanation of specific requirements• Manage expectations

– Personalized educational plan• Keep upbeat, positive demeanor– This is NOT the time for dream crushing!

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Advising Pre-health Students

• Advising the Farsighted students– Reality check• Academic standing vs. academic requirements• Reiteration of successful student profile

– Reassessment of motivation and goals• Understanding the student’s susceptibility to change• Putting a different spin on previously stated goals

– Introduction of parallel plan • Objective is to find an alternative path that achieves a

similar goal

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Advising the Last to Know

• The Ultimate Dream Crusher/The Enforcer• Advising typically includes: – Repeat of “far sighted” advising techniques• Reality check • Reassessment of goals and skills

– Deal with the fall out– Identify resources to help students cope with loss– Solidify new plan for success

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Dealing with a Negative Reaction

• Be comfortable with tears (have tissues in your office)• Be confident in your ability and don’t take their reaction

personally• Practice delivering bad news• Recognize/Acknowledge loss• Refer to counseling services if necessary• Keep detailed notes from meetings• Be prepared for fall out

– They may request new advisor– May try to apply anyway– Parental reaction

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Advisor Challenges

• Rollercoaster of negative student emotions – Angry – Arrogant – Depressed – Indignant

• Pressure from administration – Retention! – Satisfied alumni

• Information overload – Admissions requirements and statistics – Developing and maintaining relationships with cross-campus and

community partners

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“Pre-health” Toolbox

• Knowledge of requirements and admission policies for majors and programs– Have handouts available, snap-shot profiles

• GPA Calculator• Upperclassman connections• Community resources and volunteering• Job-Shadowing opportunities• Network of resources on campus– Faculty and advisors from other departments– Career Counseling and career assessments

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“Pre-health” Toolbox

• Developed sense of empathy• Keep student’s best interests in mind• Ability to deliver bad news– Take a counseling class if available

• Professional development– Listservs and professional associations

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What We’re Doing

• Fresh Connections/Learning Communities– Pre-health and Pre-nursing

• ACAD – Academic Strategies• Discover Your Major Day• Health Professions Fair• Lunch and Learn • Pre-health Workshops• Pre-nursing Seminar• Pre-health Listserv

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Discussion &

Questions

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Contact Information

Jessica [email protected]

Courtney [email protected]

Jessica [email protected]

Betsy [email protected]