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Mainland Reporting Services [email protected]

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PROSPERITY GOLD-COPPER MINE PROJECT

CANADIAN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT REGISTRY #09-05-44811

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FEDERAL REVIEW PANEL PUBLIC HEARING

PURSUANT TO:

SECTION 34 OF THE CANADIAN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT ACT

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PROCEEDINGS AT HEARING

COMMUNITY SESSION

April 9, 2010

Volume 17

Pages 2808 to 2972

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Held at:

Tl'esqox Community Band HallToosey ReserveBritish Columbia

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APPEARANCES

FEDERAL PANEL:

Mr. Robert (Bob) Connelly, Panel ChairMr. Bill Klassen, Panel MemberMs. Nalaine Morin, Panel Member

CANADIAN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AGENCY (CEAA):

Ms. Colette SpagnuoloMr. Joseph RonzioMr. Livain MichaudMs. Cindy ParkerMs. Carolyn DunnMr. Jaron DybleMs. Lucille JamaultMs. Patricia McKeage

APPLICANT

Keith Clark, Esq. (Counsel) ) For Taseko Mines LimitedMr. Brian Battison )Mr. Rod Bell-Irving )Mr. Scott Jones )Ms. Katherine Gizikoff )

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INTERESTED PARTIES AND PRESENTERS:(In order of appearance on the record):

Mr. Doug Johnny ) Personal capacity

Mrs. Josephine Isnardy ) Personal capacity(By Ms. Susie Isnardy)

Chief Francis Laceese ) Personal capacity

Councillor Georgina Johnny ) Personal capacity

Mr. Douglas Johnny ) Personal capacity

Elder Theresa Billy ) Personal capacity(Given through )Ms. Susie Isnardy) )

Ms. Teresa Johnny ) Personal capacity

Mr. Arnold Solomon ) Personal capacity

Mr. Peyal Gilpin ) Personal capacity

Ms. Valerie Johnny ) Personal capacity

Mr. Norm Diablo ) Personal capacity

Mr. Jim Peter ) Personal capacity

Mr. William Isnardy ) Personal capacity

Ms. Pearl Johnny ) Personal capacity

COURT REPORTING:

Mainland Reporting Services, Inc.Nancy Nielsen, RPR, RCR, CSR(A)Stephen Gill, CCR, CSR(A)

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INDEX OF PROCEEDINGS

DESCRIPTION PAGE NO.

(PRAYER AND DRUMMING CEREMONY:

PRESENTATION BY MR. DOUG JOHNNY:

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OPENING REMARKS BY THE CHAIRMAN: 2816

PRESENTATION BY TASEKO MINES LIMITED: 2820

COMMENT BY CHIEF MYERS: 2857

QUESTIONS OF TASEKO BY MS. SHANEEPALMANTIER:

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QUESTIONS OF TASEKO BY CHIEF MYERS: 2864

QUESTIONS BY MR. DOUG JOHNNY: 2867

(NOON BREAK)(PROCEEDINGS ADJOURNED AT 12:00 P.M.)(PROCEEDINGS RECONVENED AT 12:45 P.M.)

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QUESTIONS OF TASEKO BY MS. SMITH: 2874

PRESENTATION BY MRS. JOSEPHINE ISNARDY,BY SUSIE ISNARDY:

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PRESENTATION BY CHIEF LACEESE: 2884

PRESENTATION BY COUNCILLOR GEORGINAJOHNNY:

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PRESENTATION BY MR. DOUGLAS JOHNNY: 2901

QUESTIONS BY TASEKO: 2913

PRESENTATION BY ELDER THERESA BILLY(GIVEN THROUGH MS. SUSIE ISNARDY):

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PRESENTATION BY MS. TERESA JOHNNY: 2916

PRESENTATION BY MR. ARNOLD SOLOMON: 2918

QUESTIONS BY THE PANEL: 2927

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PRESENTATION BY MR. PEYAL GILPIN: 2929


PRESENTATION BY MS. VALERIE JOHNNY: 2931

PRESENTATION BY MR. NORM DIABLO: 2935

PRESENTATION BY MR. JIM PETER: 2950

PRESENTATION BY WILLIAM ISNARDY: 2967


PRESENTATION BY MS. PEARL JOHNNY: 2969

(DRUMMING CEREMONY)

(PROCEEDINGS ADJOURNED AT 4:15 P.M.)(PROCEEDINGS TO RECONVENE AT 10:00 A.M.ON SATURDAY, APRIL 10, 2010)

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THE CHAIRMAN: Good morning, Chief Laceese.

I think you are going to start with an opening

ceremony, so I'll turn to you to open the meeting and

then I'll have some introductory remarks.

CHIEF LACEESE: Good morning, I would just

like to welcome you to the Tsilhqot'in territory. You

are in Toosey, Tl'esqox, we're called Tl'esqox. So

for the next couple days here, our People will be

coming forward to make presentations.

And this morning we are going to start off

with a ceremony and we'll do a little bit of drumming

after that and then we'll get underway.

Thank you.

PRESENTATION BY MR. DOUG JOHNNY:

MR. D. JOHNNY: Good morning, everybody. My

name's Doug Johnny. I'm from here. My real name is

Sespetes. That means "Friend of the Bear".

And in a Native traditional culture, we look

at everything as being sacred. Even a circle such as

this, a meeting.

It doesn't have to be a circle, but every

time we have a gathering, you know, we always open it

with a prayer.

And also the smudge comes from the cedar, the

sage, the red willow, tobacco. And, yeah.

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And these were spirits. These are our

spirits. A lot of times in our lives we have to turn

to the spirit world for help, you know.

First of all, I want to let you all know that

we're all pitiful human beings, whether you know it or

not, but we are.

And later on I'll be talking about the

medicine wheel also. And the medicine wheel

represents the four colours of man on Earth. And,

yeah, different things. It's very, very sacred, this

medicine wheel. It's inside each and every one of us.

We are the medicine wheel.

And this universe is the Creator's medicine

wheel.

Also, the four things that keep us alive;

it's the land and the water, the air and the fire.

Maybe a lot of us, you know, get a little bit

confused about the medicine wheel, but the fire is the

fire that burns inside this Earth, and also the fire

from the sun. And everything is connected.

So I'm going to ask the Creator, I'll pray in

English. I'm going to ask the Creator to have pity

upon all of us, to give us direction, and to bless our

spirit, bless our mind, our heart and body. We give

thanks to Mother Earth for another day that we walk

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upon you. Give thanks to all the other relations, the

four-leggeds, the winged relations, the ones that live

in the water and on top of the water. And the rooted

people, I want to give you thanks for keeping the

secret powers for us, all the animal kingdom.

I want to thank also the grandfathers that

work under, Big Gourd, Walks with Thunder, Walking

Buffalo, Crazy Buffalo, Spotted Eagle.

I also want to give thanks to White Buffalo

Cow Woman who brought the secret Chinoopa, the Secret

Pipe to our People.

And give thanks to the standing ones, the

rooted people, the Stone people, they are one of the

oldest living beings on this Earth.

And I want to give thanks to each and every

one of you, especially the strong leaders that come

forward and just speak for the ones that cannot speak

for themselves.

And I want to thank Roger Williams and

Marilyn, the Chief of Xeni Gwet'in, and also Loretta

Williams.

Xeni Gwet'in means, that means "a beautiful

place". That's exactly what it means.

And I'll get you to sing a song.

And thank you.

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(DRUMMING CEREMONY)

OPENING REMARKS BY THE CHAIRMAN:

Good morning, Chief Laceese, Chief Baptiste,

Chief Guichon, Former Chief William, Elders, Members

of Tl'esqox community, and Members of the Tsilhqot'in

First Nation within whose traditional territory we are

holding these hearings today, Ladies and Gentlemen,

Members of our Secretariat, Taseko Mines Limited.

I would like to welcome you to the first day

of community hearings in Tl'esqox community.

Chief Laceese, I have, as a practice,

normally presented you with a gift on the opening day

of the community meetings. Unfortunately, with our

packing and unpacking, we left it at the hotel in

Williams Lake. So if you will excuse me, I will bring

it tomorrow to present to you and to the Elders. And

I apologize for that.

Before I continue with my opening remarks,

did you want to say something further before we begin,

Chief Laceese, or shall I continue with my opening

remarks?

Okay, thank you. I just wanted to check with

you.

Then, I will begin by introducing myself or

the Secretariat or the Panel of the Secretariat. My

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name is Bob Connelly and I'm the Chair of this

Environmental Assessment Panel.

On my right is Nalaine Morin and on my left

Bill Klassen.

The Members of our Secretariat, on my right,

Colette Spagnuolo, Joseph Ronzio, and Cindy Parker.

If you have any questions about the

procedures, they are the people to talk to.

The purpose of this hearing is to provide an

opportunity for the Panel to receive information that

will help us complete our assessment of the potential

environmental effects of Taseko's proposed Project.

The hearing's also designed to provide

opportunities for Taseko to explain the Project and

respond to concerns and questions raised by other

participants.

We are an independent Panel that was

appointed by the Federal Minister of the Environment

to conduct an Environmental Assessment of the proposed

Project in accordance with the Canadian Environmental

Assessment Act.

Following the completion of this assessment,

of the hearings, we'll prepare a report for the

Minister of the Environment and for the Ministers or

for the Departments of Fisheries and Oceans, Transport

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Canada, and Natural Resources Canada.

These are -- the last three departments are

departments that have permits, authorizations, or

approvals to issue if this Project is to proceed.

We intend to complete our report within 60

days of the closure of the hearings, present it to the

Minister of the Environment, and he in turn will make

it public.

The report will be reviewed by the Cabinet of

Ministers and they will determine whether the

departments can proceed to issue their various

permits, authorizations, or approvals.

Your participation and involvement is very

important to us. And we hope it's also helpful to

Taseko and other Interested Parties.

We recognize that the conclusions and

recommendations that we will provide to the Federal

Government on this matter will have an important

impact on participants here, your community, other

communities, including the community of Williams Lake,

and we want to assure you we take our responsibilities

very seriously and ask all of you to do the same. We

ask that you conduct yourselves in a manner that is

respectful of the important responsibility that we

have been given.

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We have now held general sessions in Williams

Lake, in 100 Mile House, and Alexis Creek. We've also

held community hearings, community meetings in the

communities of Xeni Gwet'in and Yunesit'in. And this

is our third location for our community meetings.

This procedure, although it looks very

formal, is not a quasi-judicial hearing, but we assume

that people appearing before us will be honest and

speak honestly to us.

We are keeping a transcript, in other words,

a written record of every word that is spoken. And so

we ask when you speak to use the microphones, as I am

doing, so that we can record everything. We ask that

you give your name so we know who's speaking and in

some cases we'd ask you to spell it out so we make

sure we have it spelled correctly.

In terms of the order of events today, we

will start off shortly with a presentation by Taseko

and then have a period of time for questions that you

may have of Taseko.

We will then follow with presentations from

people here in the community, both today and also

tomorrow.

At the end of the day tomorrow, we will

invite Taseko to respond to any concerns that have

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been risen or any issues that have come up during the

hearings and that will occur at the end of the day.

We also have an interpreter here today to

assist us.

I believe it's Susie; is that correct?

MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: Yes.

THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you. And I understand

that you will interpret as needed when Elders are

present, if that's correct. Yes.

So we will seek your advice on when

interpretation is appropriate and needed.

I have a list of speakers but I won't go over

them at this point. And I understand that that may

change as people are available during the course of

the day today and tomorrow.

So with those opening remarks, I will turn to

Taseko, then, to make their presentation, and then

we'll follow, as I mentioned, with a question period.

Taseko, please introduce yourselves and

proceed with your presentation.

PRESENTATION BY TASEKO MINES LIMITED:

MR. BATTISON: Good morning, Mr. Chairman,

Members of the Federal Panel, Residents of Toosey,

First Nation Members, Chiefs, and Elders.

My name is Brian Battison. I'm

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Vice-President of Corporate Affairs for Taseko Mines.

Others with me today from the company, on my

left, Rod Bell-Irving. He's the Manager of the

Environmental Assessment at Prosperity for Taseko.

He's spent 17 years working on this Project and is

familiar with every aspect of the Project. Rod's a

fish biologist. He spent 25 years of his career

working for DFO, the Department of Fisheries and

Oceans, as a Federal Regulator.

On my right is Keith Clark. Keith is legal

counsel to Taseko. He's with the law firm of Lang

Michener.

Rod and I will do an overview of the Project

this morning. Rather than give you a detailed

presentation, it will be a broad overview.

As the Chairman said, this is the third week

of public hearings into this Project. And so far

we've been at Williams Lake and 100 Mile House, Alexis

Creek and Nemiah, Stone, and now today here in Toosey.

The purpose of the hearings, as the Chairman

has mentioned, is to gather and receive information

from these communities and from the people who live

here.

A secondary benefit and purpose is that we

get to hear your interests and concerns.

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And we also get to tell you about our

Project. And about the potential it can have for this

community and for those who live here.

Here's what we've heard so far:

We've heard about a deep love and respect for

the land;

We've heard about the ability of the land to

support the people and to provide for the people,

hunting, fishing, trapping, gathering, ranching,

haying, recreation, tourism, mineral exploration and

mining;

We've heard about the history of the area,

the Gold Rush of the 1860s, the Chilcotin War of 1864,

the devastation of smallpox, the pain of residential

schools, and the importance of the healing process

that has followed;

We've heard about the resilience and

endurance of the people;

We've heard about hardship and difficult

economic times, not just in the past, but the

difficulties being faced now. Double digit

unemployment. Lack of jobs. The dramatic increases

in food bank demands and on other social service

support mechanisms;

The fear of further job losses in the future;

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The lack of new opportunity for job creation

and business development;

The lack of hope and optimism;

And the fear that the ravages of the pine

beetle have yet to really take hold and that when it

does, things are going to get even more difficult as

the depth of that epidemic takes full root in the

local economy.

The Cariboo is a big and important part of

B.C., what happens here, the wealth that is created

here through the harvest of natural resources, drives

opportunity elsewhere, generating value and benefit

not only here, but elsewhere in B.C., including down

on the coast and in Vancouver.

These communities of the Cariboo are

resource-based communities in a resource-based

province and what happens here is important to

everybody in B.C.

Today and tomorrow our purpose is to listen

to you and to respond to you and to your questions.

The exchange of information is important to

all of this.

We have heard many statements made during

these community meetings and people have expressed

deep and heartfelt concerns about what will happen if

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the mine goes ahead.

While many of the concerns people have

expressed are real for them, the fears they have and

the concerns they hold seem often to be based on

misinformation; perhaps a result of rumour or claims

made by others which are simply not true and will not

happen should the mine proceed.

We want to make sure you have the facts you

deserve to have.

Our job has been to gather those facts

together for governments and their regulators.

Our job has been to support and prove those

facts through engineering, through technology, through

examination and research, and through scientific

discipline.

We are not allowed to guess.

We are not allowed to make things up.

We are not allowed to mislead.

And we are not allowed to ignore what we have

learned or to ignore your interests and concerns, nor

are we allowed to hide what we know from others.

We are required to be open with our

information.

We are required to be transparent with our

work.

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We are required to lay before the Panel and

before you all of our information so that you may

judge its merits and make up your own minds and form

your own conclusions based on those proven facts.

If we cannot prove our work, then we must

prove our predictions.

As we all know, there are very few guarantees

in life, or in any aspect of life. We must predict to

the greatest accuracy possible the impacts our Project

will have.

And then we must watch and monitor the

results of our work to prove during the operation

phase, once the mine is up and running, whether the

predictions were accurate. And if, during mining

operations, the predictions we have made are not being

achieved, then we must alter our course so that we

make good on those predictions and that we operate

within the law and within acceptable limits to ensure

environmental safety and security.

We are especially interested in hearing about

this community and about the priorities that people

have for this community, what they would like to see

happen here, or not happen here.

What are the things you like about this

community and want to see remain as is and protected

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from any future change?

What are the things that you would like to

see improved in this community?

And, is there a chance that the development

of this mine can assist in achieving that improvement?

It has been made crystal clear to us that

much of the opposition to the Prosperity Mine relates

to the impact it will have on Fish Lake. Developing

Prosperity means draining Fish Lake. We wish it were

otherwise. We searched hard for a different way, a

way to retain the lake and have the mine. It was in

our interest to find out a way to keep the lake, doing

so would have eliminated a lot of the controversy and

debate around this Project.

But we were not able to find a viable

alternative. The lake and the deposit sit side by

side. It's not possible to have one without the loss

of the other.

The future of Fish Lake is not ours to

decide. That decision belongs to the Provincial

Government, which has made its decision, and to the

Federal Government, which has yet to make its

decision.

If the Project proceeds, it will mean

altering the landscape immediately surrounding Fish

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Lake as well.

And how will these lands be altered?

And what value and benefit to society are

gained by doing so?

And is it worth it to do so?

That is what is to be decided through this

process.

There are just two options for consideration:

Do nothing with Prosperity. That's one

option;

Or take the minerals out of the ground and

generate value and benefit for people locally and

regionally, provincially and nationally.

The Prosperity Project has been approved by

the Provincial Government following detailed

regulatory review. They have concluded the minerals

can be extracted in a manner consistent with the

highest public expectation for environmental security,

while, at the same time, delivering lasting

opportunity, benefit, and wealth for Canadians.

If the Federal Government comes to the same

conclusion, it will likely result in an investment in

Canada by Taseko of $800 million at a time in Canada's

history when it is surely needed.

Here's what the development of Prosperity

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means for people:

- building the mine will

involve as many as 700

construction workers over a

two-year period;

- operating the mine will

generate as many as 500 direct

jobs for 20 years and create 1200

additional jobs;

- every year, the enterprise

will spend into the local,

regional, and provincial economy,

$200 million, for a total spending

of $5 billion over the 20-year

life of the mine.

And all of this effort and all of this

spending, all of this employment, and all of this

opportunity will contribute significantly to the

future sustainability of regional communities in the

Cariboo-Chilcotin and the Central Interior.

And not just the Cariboo-Chilcotin will

benefit. B.C. and Canada will benefit.

Looking through the lens of sustainability,

here's what Prosperity will mean to the people of B.C.

and Canada over the 20-year operating life of the

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mine:

- Prosperity will generate

60,000 person-years of employment;

- consumer spending in B.C.

will rise by almost $7 billion;

- residential investment,

that's people buying homes and

town homes and condominiums in the

province, will rise by $750

million over the Project period;

- investment in machinery and

equipment, that's investment by

others besides us, will rise in

B.C. by $1.1 billion;

- and the province's population

will rise by almost 5,000 persons

during the Project to meet

provincial employment

requirements;

- and the biggest winners from

mining today are governments and

the people those governments

represent;

- cash to the bottom line,

almost a billion dollars to the

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Federal Government, $2.3 billion

for the Provincial Government,

money that will be available to

spend on health care and education

and other social services and

needs.

And all of this from a very small piece of

land. The Cariboo-Chilcotin Region covers an area of

80,262 square kilometres or 20 million acres.

The area directly impacted by the Prosperity

Project totals 5,420 acres. 5420 acres out of

20 million acres.

So, from just 2/100ths of a percent of the

land base of the Cariboo-Chilcotin can come this vast

opportunity for people.

And the value and benefits generated by

Prosperity will live on long after the mine closes.

It will live on in the families and in the children to

follow. And it will live on in the infrastructure and

in the services that are able to be paid for.

But what about First Nations?

Where do they fit in?

What value, benefit and opportunity are they

able to generate and gain from this?

Will Prosperity prove to make a positive

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difference or a negative difference?

The role and future for First Nations is an

important part of all of this process and of this

potential development.

And thinking about First Nation communities

and the people of these communities, especially now

the Toosey Reserve:

- what are the measures by

which this community can gauge its

success?

- how is the community doing

now?

- and how might it be improved

in the future?

- how might the development and

operation of the Prosperity Mine,

how might it contribute to the

economic and social health of this

community?

- can Prosperity contribute to

improving the well-being in human

condition here in Toosey?

We are convinced that this Project can make a

positive difference. And especially with the renewed

dialogue and sense of common purpose between ourselves

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and the First Nations People, we are certain

Prosperity holds the power and ability to improve and

enhance the opportunities for people within this

community and within First Nation communities as a

whole.

But there needs to be that dialogue and there

needs to be mutual effort that leads to mutual gain.

The Provincial Environmental Assessment

Certificate, the approval that the Province of British

Columbia has given, contains a number of commitments

that Taseko intends to fulfil, including:

- working with First Nation

governments to encourage the

formation and development of

locally owned businesses;

- providing opportunities for

employment;

- promoting the development of

mutually beneficial partnerships

with First Nation neighbours;

- providing opportunities for

training and career advancement

for employees.

The Provincial Government has a new policy,

it's called the "Revenue Sharing Policy". The policy

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envisions the Province sharing the mineral tax that's

generated from new mine development in the Province,

including the mineral tax that would be developed and

generated by Prosperity.

It's a significant amount of money. We

estimate that Prosperity over the life of its mine

would generate between four hundred and six hundred

million dollars in mineral tax revenue, a share of

which is intended to be provided to local First

Nations by the Provincial Government.

So how could that revenue be used to further

the priorities of the Toosey community and the people

who live here?

These are important questions. And we are

most interested in hearing what you have to say in

regards to what the answers might be or how the

answers might be found.

And we are very much looking forward to the

discussion with you over these next two days and to

the discussions that will hopefully follow in the days

and the weeks ahead.

Now I'd turn things over to Rod Bell-Irving

and ask him to provide some more information about

what's contained in our Project Report and in the

Project itself.

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MR. BELL-IRVING: Thank you, Mr. Chairman,

Panel Members, Chief Laceese.

Before I proceed, I would just ask if there

was an interest in translating any of that or a need

to do so?

MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: I myself believe I should be

just roughly summarizing what he said because my mom,

my mom doesn't understand at all what you guys are

saying.

MR. BELL-IRVING: Okay.

MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: (Aboriginal language spoken).

THE CHAIRMAN: Yes, Chief Myers?

CHIEF MYERS: (Aboriginal language spoken).

MR. BELL-IRVING: Allow me, then, to continue,

please.

In a few slides here that I have before you,

I'm going to try and introduce three basic themes.

I would like to introduce you to the Project

and to show you that this is a mine development, an

open pit copper-gold mine.

And during the life of the mine, and, as a

result of the mine, we are going to be altering the

landscape and borrowing the land.

I will also show you, at the end of our

Project, how we propose at this point to return the

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land to its former self and former state.

All of this will occur in less time than it

takes to grow a tree from these many clearcuts and

forest-harvesting activity that you see around you.

All of this action of borrowing the land,

altering the landscape, and returning the land to its

former self in less time than it takes to grow a tree.

I will also very briefly introduce you to the

Environmental Assessment that we have been working on

and undertaking for so many years and very briefly

highlight the extent to which, as a result of this

assessment, our science and our understanding of the

ground, the land, the animals, the plants, has been

subject to scrutiny and examination by public, by

First Nations, and by technical regulators and experts

from both levels of government.

And also show you why and how, as a result of

this Environmental Assessment, we have come to this

point, having improved in many ways our original

design and original plan so that the final outcome of

this assessment is in fact a vastly improved and

better Project for all.

The third aspect of my presentation will be

to briefly highlight for you what the consequences

today are of the Provincial Government having reached

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their decision and reached their conclusions.

And I would express the consequences in terms

of a number of legal obligations that the Provincial

Government has now imposed on Taseko Mines as a

condition under which we may, if the Federal

Government approves this Project, proceed to develop

it.

So to begin, I will start with the most

fundamental part of our Project, which is to describe

very briefly the fact that we understand and have

examined very carefully the ground, the ore body,

where this gold and copper exists.

And we have done so through a traditional

very standard method of drilling. We have drilled

over 15 kilometres of drill core in the ground, some

very deep drill, to be able to show and to examine and

to measure where the gold and what the gold is.

And this diagram shows in a blue frame the

outline of the pit, which would be the hole that we

will dig in the ground, which is the biggest

alteration, one of the biggest alterations to the

land. And these white lines show the actual drill

cores and the length of the line shows the depth to

which we have undertaken this drilling.

The second picture showing you the landscape

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that we are going to alter and borrow.

The yellow line represents the

Fish Creek/Fish Lake drainage. It's a watershed.

It's an area within which all the water that flows on

the land comes from the sky, drains downhill into the

lake, eventually into this creek, and join the Taseko

River here in the bottom of the picture.

This is the Taseko River, which flows from

Taseko Lake up here at the top, and it flows in this

northerly direction further down off the picture where

it joins the Chilko and the Chilcotin River, and

eventually the Fraser River.

Within this watershed or contained area, we

have this circle, which represents that pit that I was

referring to. This circle here is this circle here.

That is the hole that we will be digging into the

ground.

And the significance of that is, apart from

that's where the ore is, is that by digging that hole,

we naturally capture all the water that is going to

flow within the watershed into that hole. And we're

able to contain the water, treat the water if

necessary, and, most importantly, manage the water

throughout the life of the mine.

This blue shape here represents the tailings

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pond, which is a by-product of our mining process.

And you think of tailings, think of sand on a beach.

If you're walking on a beach, the fine sand on your

feet, that's the majority of the material that's

placed in here is crushed rock in the form and to a

shape of sand.

There's other features to this which I will

explain in a minute.

These white areas to the left represent the

clearcuts that have occurred from the forest

harvesting in the vicinity.

Looking at the mine site yet again from

another view, from a top-down birds-eye view, you have

up at the top here, the hole or the pit.

You have Fish Lake as it exists today shown

here.

And upstream of that lake forms this area

that we refer to as the "tailings pond". It will

consist of a dam, a big earthen structure on both the

main embankment and the west embankment. And it will

also contain a further dam at the southern end.

All of those dams are designed to contain

both the tailings, the sand-like material that we're

depositing, and to contain in one area the rock that

we take from the pit that does not turn into ore and

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into copper and gold. This rock is referred to as

"potentially acid-generating rock", and it is stored

in this tailings facility as a co-disposal with the

tailings.

The feature of the tailings pond includes the

need to maintain water and, in essence, create another

lake so that the potentially acid-generating material

is stored underwater. And that's a permanent feature

that will remain with the land and with this site well

after closure.

The other component of the Project includes

the creation of a new lake at the southern end of the

site. This is temporarily referred to as "Prosperity

Lake," which is for working purposes. That lake is

being created in order to house the fish that are

currently sitting in Fish Lake. We will be moving the

fish from here into here. Because, unfortunately, as

my colleague has indicated, because of the location of

the ore body and the location of the tailings

facility, this ore cannot be extracted without having

to drain this lake.

So we'll be draining the lake and moving the

fish to this new lake here.

There's another feature to the Project which

I just highlight which is this blue line here, which

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is a channel that we're building that will, once

built, will remain permanently, to collect all the

water that will flow from the upper ends of the

watershed and divert clean water around the mine site

and off the site back into the Taseko River.

That's the picture of the mine site and the

altering of the landscape during the life of the mine,

which is a 20-year operation.

This picture shows you almost what it will

look like after we have completed the mine and

returned the land back to nature.

You will see the pit, which is here. Not

quite yet showing that it's full. Eventually the pit

will be full of water. We estimate, once we stop

creating tailings and milling the ore, we will take 24

to 25 years to fill this pit with water. And it will

eventually then return to the Fish Creek and drain out

Fish Creek back into the Taseko River.

The tailings pond, as represented here, will

have the beaches, the tailings beaches will be planted

and you'll have vegetation planted to restore the

capacity and the capability of the landscape to what

was there previously and this will become habitat for

wildlife and animals of all kinds.

The pond here will remain as a permanent

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lake. And at the back end here, you see this original

new lake that we created which is Prosperity Lake.

So you have in essence a chain of three

lakes.

The intention is ultimately, once this is

stabilized and the Project site is complete, to allow

fish from Prosperity Lake back into the tailings pond

and we believe also into the pit, so you will have

three lakes in which to harvest the fish and for the

animals to exist in the area.

You will see also here, which is where the

original mill site was, that was removed and there

will be no buildings left at the site.

You will see perhaps, use your imagination,

perhaps, to realize that the transmission line that

we're building has also been removed and there will be

no power, no transmission line left at the site.

Throughout all of this, you keep a look on

the Taseko River, you'll see that there's been no

change, no alteration to either Taseko River or to Big

Onion Lake, which is down here in the foreground.

The Project, apart from what I showed you in

the mine site, also involves the construction of a

transmission line, which is shown here, coming from

Dog Creek over on the east side of the Fraser River,

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all the way into the mine site, 125 kilometres long.

Taseko will also utilize existing roads from

the Gibraltar load-out at McLeese, through Williams

Lake, along the Highway 20 to Hanceville, and then

along this Taseko Lake Road, White Water Road, Nemiah

Road, until it branches off at an existing logging

road, the 4500 Road.

And only at the very end of this road network

will we be building any new roads. We're building a

2.8 kilometre new road which will bring us from the

4500 into the mine site.

What's going to be travelling on those roads?

We show you here a picture of what is

referred to as a "B-train truck". This is a typical

truck with a cover on it that will take the products

from our mine, the concentrate, from the mine to

McCallister, the load-out near McLeese Lake.

We have done a traffic study and estimated

the number of vehicles, both in terms of trucks and

light vehicles, that will at various phases of the

Project during construction, operations, and closure

and then after closure, 20 years after the mine is

closed, the number of vehicles that will travel that

road that are related to this mine.

Another feature of our Project involves the

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construction of a transmission line and a switching

station.

This is a picture of a typical BC Hydro

switching station. The yellow line represents the

size and the look of a switching station that BC Hydro

or B.C. Transmission Corporation will be building on

our behalf at Dog Creek. And that's the size of it

and that's what it looks like. A switching station.

There'll be a similar structure at the other end of

the line which will be built by Taseko on the mine

site itself.

Again I repeat, that the transmission line is

designed, once it's served its purpose and the mine is

closed, the commitment and plan is to pull all of this

out and remove it from the landscape.

The transmission line looks like this. This

is what the power line will look like. It will have

three lines, two poles, and a bar, a crossbar. And a

corridor cleared that is estimated to be between 30

and 80 metres wide. That would be the 125 kilometres

from Dog Creek back to the mine site.

So that's in a very quick overview of the

Project.

Now I'm going to move quickly to the

Environmental Assessment.

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THE CHAIRMAN: And I wonder, Rod,

Mr. Bell-Irving, maybe we should see if it would be

appropriate for some interpretation before you move

on.

MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: You should show me the

pictures.

THE CHAIRMAN: It would be helpful, yes, to

put up the pictures.

MR. BELL-IRVING: Which one would you like?

MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: That one, the white one.

Yeah, that one.

(TRANSLATION)

MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: How do you say "lake", Roger?

FORMER CHIEF ROGER WILLIAM: "Teztan Biny."

MS. SUSIE ISNARDY:

(TRANSLATION)

MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: We're asking where Toosey

would be on that map.

MR. BATTISON: Is that where Toosey is?

THE CHAIRMAN: Do you know perhaps the distance

roughly from the community to the transmission line,

roughly?

MR. BELL-IRVING: No. I could scale it and

come back with that.

THE CHAIRMAN: Okay, Taseko will provide an

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answer to that later.

MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: Okay. I guess that's it.

Okay. Thanks.

MR. BELL-IRVING: I will continue.

Moving to the Environmental Assessment. I

want to point out that, as I said in my opening

remarks, that this whole process is in fact an

examination of the science and the information, the

engineering information and our understanding of both

the ore body and the landscape and the environment in

the vicinity of our Project.

In order for a mining company like Taseko

Mines to do that, we need to ask and to retain experts

from all over the world to give us their expertise and

advice.

And we have done so. And you see here a list

of both engineering and environmental firms that have

invested a great deal of energy, a great deal of time

and expertise in examining all aspects of our Project.

In accordance with the Terms of Reference

that were issued to us by both the Federal and the

Provincial Government, we examined a number of aspects

of the environment, both the physical, we looked at

the air, we looked at noise, we looked at water and

underground water.

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On the biological side, we looked at the

water quality and were able to measure and predict

what would happen to the water that you drink and the

water that the fish swim in in terms of the water

quality.

We looked at the aquatic environment, the

animals and the plants that live in the water.

We looked very carefully at the fish and the

fish habitat that they depend on to survive.

We measured and looked at terrain, the land,

and the soils. And able to examine the nature of soil

and what our Project effects might have on the soil of

the land.

We identified and studied the vegetation, the

plants, in the vicinity of our mine and the

transmission line.

And we looked very carefully at a total of

26 wildlife species of animals to examine through

their eyes what our Project might do to their habitat,

to their environment.

We also looked at the socio-economic side of

the environment and looked at what this Project will

contribute to the economies, what it would do to the

health and the police and the social services within

the communities.

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We identified other resource users, how our

Project might affect the ranching, the grazing, the

trapping that goes on in our territory. We examined

that.

We examined the Project's effects on human

health and on the ecology.

And we've also looked at the extent to which

our Project would have an effect on the public's right

to navigate, to be able to transit on lakes and to

cross rivers without being interfered by our Project.

We also looked at archaeological and heritage

resources. We undertook an extensive study on the

mine site and we have yet to undertake a similar study

on the transmission line.

And, as a result of Federal legislation, we

also looked at the effects of this Project in relation

to other projects that are known to be occurring in

the community and whether or not, by adding our

Project on to the landscape, there would be a

compounding or an exaggeration of effects that might

be of concern.

And we looked also at accidents and

malfunctions; what would happen if a transport truck

hauling concentrate were to spill and the concentrate

were to flow into the river? What would happen to it?

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What would be the effect of that and what would we

have to do in order to clean that up?

Those are all of the components that we've

examined and I'm not going to go into them all by any

means here today.

I'm going to talk very briefly about these

five, six.

I'm having trouble with math today. My

colleague reminded me that I said there was 15

kilometres of drill core. I'm wrong. It's 150

kilometres. I missed a decimal place. So just for

the record, it's 150 kilometres of --

And there's six issues here I'm going to talk

about.

The first one is water.

We looked at water, both ground and surface

water, and we assessed the effects of our Project on

those.

What we concluded, most importantly, is that

the nature of the site, the landscape that I showed

you with the first slide, provides us with a unique

opportunity to contain and to manage all the water

that would be or could potentially be affected by our

Project all within that one area so that there's no

chance that that water would escape from the Fish

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Creek drainage into the Taseko, into the Chilko and

the Chilcotin or Fraser Rivers.

As a result of our Assessment and the

Provincial Review, we've been held to that commitment

or that prediction. Now that we are legally required,

our approval from the Province says that it's

conditional on us having to operate this mine as a

closed system, that it would contain all the mine

waters during the life of the mine. And that after

closure, when the pit is full and it begins to

overflow and then discharge into the environment, we

are legally obligated to meet provincial standards,

provincial guidelines to ensure that long after we

finish the mine, there will be no effects on the

water, both ground or surface.

We also looked at fish and fishing and fish

habitat.

We've characterized the fish in Teztan Biny

and described them.

As we go through these community meetings,

we're learning and confirming that our understanding

of the importance of Teztan Biny and of the fish and

the fishery that it supports.

And those are very important pieces of our

Project to understand so that we can design and

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implement a compensation plan to appropriately

compensate or offset for the unavoidable loss of the

fish and the fishing from Teztan Biny.

Again, I would remind us that, when I say

"unavoidable loss," we're about a temporary loss

during the life of the mine, and that at the closure

of the mine, we will restore the land back such that

fishing in those chain of lakes will ultimately be

available and certainly during the life of the mine,

fishing will be provided for in the new lake that

we've created, or would create.

The Fish Compensation Plan, therefore, is

designed to meet these objectives:

- to maintain the genetic

character so that we keep that

strain of monoculture fish intact;

- we create the situation where

those fish will self-sustain, be

self-sustaining;

- and the population of trout

will be able naturally to spawn

and to survive;

- our commitment is to provide

a fishery for First Nations to

ensure that you are afforded at

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least the equivalent right to

harvest and to utilize the fish

from the land;

- and to provide fish habitat,

the stream site habitat and the

streams which are necessary for

the fish to rear and to survive.

We looked at wildlife and plants and we

studied and assessed the effects.

We looked at 24 wildlife species,

particularly those that were identified in the William

decision, and have concluded specific, reached

specific conclusions on the effects of our Project on

the habitats and the number of animals of all

24 species of wildlife.

And similarly the plants, the William

decision specifically identified that there are over

52, approximately 52 plant species that First Nations

are relying upon and utilizing for traditional

purposes.

We've assessed the effects of our Project on

those plants.

And ultimately, again, as a consequence and a

conclusion and outcome of the Provincial Assessment,

we have been committed and are obligated to develop

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and implement a compensation plan that, if our

predictions are wrong, and if a particular medicinal

plant or animal is adversely affected, Taseko is now

legally obligated to compensate for that and to find a

way to offset that harm or that loss in a manner that

ensures that that is compensated for.

We discussed and examined noise, dust and

light. All concerns that people have raised,

particularly from Xeni and the Nemiah community who

are living the closest, some 40 kilometres -- no,

sorry, 25 -- here's my math again -- kilometres away

again from the mine site itself.

And we concluded that, with the mitigation

measures that are in the design, and the operation of

the mine, that there's no significant affect going to

be felt from noise, dust or light.

And we are obligated, again as a result of

our commitments, to monitor and to manage through

mitigation measures any effects that are

inadvertently -- are realized.

I mentioned before, we undertook a cultural

heritage component. And that involved, amongst other

things, an extensive Archaeological Study of Fish Lake

and the area surrounding the entire mine site

development area. And we've identified those

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resources. We've mapped them. We've collected many

of them. And, under direction from the Provincial

Government, we are committed to mitigating and

managing those artefacts and findings on the mine

site, if this Project is allowed to proceed, when we

disturb the land.

In our conclusions, and, as a result of our

Provincial Government approval, we are also legally

obligated to fulfil these commitments to First

Nations, and here's the list, there's two slides here

listing those commitments:

- we are required to maintain

open and full communication with

First Nations;

- to recognize and consider the

value and significance that First

Nations place on traditional,

cultural and heritage knowledge;

- to promote the development of

mutually beneficial partnerships.

That could be in the form of

businesses, supplying supporting

various aspects of the mine;

- work with First Nations

governments to encourage the

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formation and development of

locally owned businesses. Here's

an opportunity, on the backs of

this mine development and all of

the activity associated with it,

to come into the formation and

development of your own

locally-owned businesses;

- to provide opportunities for

employment;

- and to provide opportunities

for training and career

advancement for those who seek and

obtain employment.

Link the two thoughts:

- we have a commitment, in

collaboration with First Nations,

to develop the establishment of

measurable goals and targets for

how you would see this Project

being sustainable and how that

would be viewed from within your

community;

- to establish a fishery to at

least a similar character of that

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in Fish Lake;

- to expand the efforts that

are reflected in our current

initiative called "Mining Your

Future."

- to actually seek out and to

promote opportunities for the

hiring of First Nations workers.

We can only do this, however, if

the community expresses an

interest and wishes to participate

in that. We can't do it on our

own;

- and, finally, where possible,

to implement archaeological

resource management measures to

avoid and where we can to mitigate

the effects on any archaeological

and culturally sensitive areas.

So, in conclusion, Taseko, as my colleague

has indicated, we look forward to these two days to

hear from you and to learn from you, and,

particularly, to gather new information and better

understanding.

We remain prepared to answer all and every

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question to the best of our ability. And we, most

importantly, will take that information and take it

away from here and look for ways to incorporate that

further into how it is that we can further improve and

implement the construction and operation of this

Project.

Thank you.

THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Mr. Bell-Irving.

I think we should have some interpretation,

again, of that. Would it be helpful to have a copy of

the overheads or have you taken sufficient notes?

MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: I'm trying to take notes

really fast. I'm missing some stuff.

MR. BELL-IRVING: Do you want to go back to

this?

MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: Yes, someone can.

THE CHAIRMAN: Please proceed, then.

MS. SUSIE ISNARDY:

(TRANSLATION)

THE CHAIRMAN:

Thank you, again, for the interpretation.

Before we open up the floor, then, for

questioning, I just have a small administrative matter

to deal with.

When people put forward presentations,

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perhaps table posters or drawings or photographs, for

example, we call these "exhibits" and we assign them a

number.

So each day I indicate what we've received

from the previous day and I will just do this for the

purpose of the record.

So yesterday we received some posters from

the Yunesit'in School. And they will be

Exhibit No. 66.

We had pictures and written text from Betty

Lulua, which will become Exhibit No. 67.

We had a documentary from Diana Haines, which

will become Exhibit 68.

And a Powerpoint Presentation from Molly

Hink, which will become Exhibit 69.

So that is just for purposes of keeping track

of material that is tabled during the hearings.

I will now open the floor then for any

questions that anybody might have of Taseko.

Chief Myers?

COMMENT BY CHIEF MYERS:

CHIEF MYERS: Mr. Chairman, this is Chief

Ivor Deneway Myers, Chief of Yunesit'in.

During the period at Stone when I hear views

in regards to this Prosperity Mine, for Fish Lake, I

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find there's a little problem here.

I know Taseko should have hired somebody to

record in the Tsilhqot'in language on this whole view

of what they are trying to do in Teztan Biny. That's

where the big problem is, I figure, they should have

hired somebody to do some interpretation right on the

video recorder or however it means.

And that way our Elders could understand

what's going on here.

I know we seem to be skipping some, a lot of

these things here through the explanation from Taseko

Mine members, and would be way better to have somebody

from our Tsilhqot'in Nation to be able to translate it

properly.

And I know there's a lot of stuff there that

needs to be translated, but something like this, when

you go to each community, that way this other

translator don't have to translate everything. Then

if Taseko did their job in that area, everything would

have been recorded and explained the process that's on

that screen there.

That's all I have to say, thanks.

THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Chief Myers, I

guess that's a comment and I understand the suggestion

you've made quite clearly.

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We'll leave that with Taseko.

Mr. Bell-Irving, did you wish to respond to

that?

MR. BELL-IRVING: Yes, if I may, Mr. Chairman.

I just point out for the Panel that at the

Alexis Creek meeting, I think if my memory serves me

correctly, I was asked by Chief Percy to circulate a

copy of these slides to all the Chiefs in all the

communities, which I did electronically some week ago

in an effort to help them at least have the benefit of

the slides to be able to translate or prepare the

translator in advance. And that's perhaps not enough,

but that was certainly an effort on our part to try

and facilitate that.

THE CHAIRMAN: Thanks. I think that's

perhaps a little bit different than what Chief Myers

was suggesting, but nevertheless I appreciate the

comment.

CHIEF MYERS: I don't feel that's good

enough. The proper way is, you know, we got some,

just like that lady over there translated fairly well,

but you should have hired somebody from the

Tsilhqot'in Nation to explain points by points on that

screen there because everything is not being said.

And it's not appropriate for Taseko Mine to be able to

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express things in English and then hopefully somebody

could just brush, could just translate the best they

can regarding what's they are talking about here.

That's all I have to say. Thanks.

THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Chief Myers.

We've noted the comment you've made.

I will ask if there are any questions of

Taseko that anybody wishes to raise at this point.

Please give us your name before you ask the question.

QUESTIONS OF TASEKO BY MS. SHANEE PALMANTIER:

MS. PALMANTIER: Good morning. My name is

Shanee Palmantier. I'm a member of Tl'esqox and I'm

also a member, of course, of the Tsilhqot'in Nation.

I would like to thank you for being in our

community and thank Taseko for your presentation. I

tried to take notes.

I just had a couple questions for the moment.

On one of the maps that you showed in the

presentation with the landscape and it showed some

clearcuts that were present there, do you also have on

record or on file a map or a set of maps that shows

all of the clearcuts that are on our entire territory

and all of the roads that are on our territory?

MR. BELL-IRVING: Yes. We have a map that

centres on the transmission line and shows all of the

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clearcuts and the planned clearcuts into the future.

And also the roads. I wouldn't be so bold as to say

that that covers your entire territory, but certainly

within a reasonable distance on either side of the

transmission line, we have that information.

MS. PALMANTIER: Right, the reason I ask

is because I think it's, you know, our Nation has

taken a Nation approach on most of the issues that

affect all of us as a collective. And I think it's

also important that we don't have just one spot

section. That it's important because this does affect

our entire Nation that we get, you know, a perspective

of what our ground looks like throughout the Nation.

MR. BELL-IRVING: Some of those maps I referred

to are included in our documentation already and we

have provided some further maps, I know, to the

Tsilhqot'in National Government at their request

throughout this review so far.

MS. PALMANTIER: Right. Okay.

MR. BELL-IRVING: So if there are specific maps

that I could help you identify and provide, I would be

happy to do that.

MS. PALMANTIER: Okay, thank you.

In regards to the October 2008 press release

from the Provincial Government on sharing mining

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benefits. Just for my clarification, Prosperity is

classified as a "new mining project"?

MR. BELL-IRVING: Yes, it is.

MS. PALMANTIER: Okay. In terms of the

numbers, I'm thankful that you've set out monetary

benefits to local, provincial and national economies.

Do you also have concrete numbers on how our People

would benefit?

MR. BELL-IRVING: At this point, no. But in

the context of the revenue sharing mineral tax,

revenue sharing initiative, that's a Provincial

Government initiative, and my colleague identified an

order of magnitude of the taxes that our Project, if

it proceeds, would be contributing in the form of

mineral tax. And it's up to the Provincial Government

to discuss with the Nation both the amount and how

those funds would flow.

But it's our understanding that it would be

substantial.

MS. PALMANTIER: And it's on a

project-by-project basis and the government decides

what they will share?

MR. BELL-IRVING: Yes, the Government and the

Nation decide the quantum and the allocation and how

it's to be put to use based on input from the Nation.

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MS. PALMANTIER: Okay. Just in terms of the

jobs. Of course, there are different classifications

for jobs that would be involved with the mine from

entry level to, of course, Bachelor degrees and

Master's and I'm sure Ph.D.s.

Would you have an idea of how many of those

jobs would have to be filled outside of our Nation

area and outside of the general community of Williams

Lake?

MR. BATTISON: No, I don't have a specific

answer to that. But in the Gibraltar Mine scenario, I

believe it's 93 percent of the people that work at the

mine live in Williams Lake and Quesnel. So that's

where the majority of the people live.

The remainders, I assume, live in other

communities outside of those. But the majority of the

people that work at that mine are local people or

become local people because they buy a home and they

live there. If that helps.

MS. PALMANTIER: In terms of, this is my last

question, thank you, in terms of the archaeological

resource management measures, I'm assuming that you

would have those on paper and those were measures that

were endorsed by the Arc Branch?

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are in fact included in our Application and they were

the result of the process we went through in

collecting the information and then the Arc Branch

giving us the terms and conditions under which they

would issue their permits. That's part of our record.

MS. PALMANTIER: Thank you.

THE CHAIRMAN: Chief Myers.

QUESTIONS OF TASEKO BY CHIEF MYERS:

CHIEF MYERS: I just wanted to ask

questions to Taseko Mine in regards to Teztan Biny.

I just want to know if they did any studies

in regards to how many grave sites there is in Teztan

Biny. I just wanted to know because I just wanted to

let the Elders know about this.

(Aboriginal language spoken)

CHIEF MYERS: I just want to know if you

did any study in that area regarding burial sites?

MR. BELL-IRVING: Chief Ivor, yes, the answer

is we did. We undertook what we believed to be the

most extensive and intensive archaeological survey and

study of a mine site ever done in this country before.

And we have identified approximately 79 sites

that are within the Teztan Biny area generally. And

we've identified amongst those 79, one potential grave

site. And that's identified. Its location is mapped.

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But under direction from the Archaeological Branch of

the Province, we have been instructed not to disclose

that and therefore that information is confidential to

the First Nation and to the Branch.

And, of course, the mitigation measures that

are identified in our permit from the Provincial

Government specifically pay attention to the suspected

site and instruct us to work with the Nation to, first

of all, see if we can avoid disturbance of that site.

And that's still an option. But failing that, we

would work with the Nation to find the most

appropriate way to address that particular potential

site.

CHIEF MYERS: Since yesterday's meeting at

Stone, Yunesit'in, I didn't realize there was a lot of

grave sites. And I still think that you need to do

more homework there.

Thanks.

THE CHAIRMAN: Chief Myers, do you want

to or should I ask Susie to perhaps interpret that?

Since you were making the remark to the Elders,

perhaps that should be interpreted as well, the

answer.

MS. SUSIE ISNARDY:

(TRANSLATION)

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THE CHAIRMAN: Chief Myers.

CHIEF MYERS: As of yesterday's session at

Stone, I was told there was about 11 or more burial

sites there. We have to know where it is. And on the

island there's a sacred spiritual site and there was a

place of fasting. There was a place of puberty

ceremony. And there was a place of getting your

powers, and stuff like that. And that's a very sacred

lake and a very sacred island.

That's all I have to say. Thanks.

You need to do further research in regards to

that because none of the Taseko members know where the

burial sites are. And this, during the time of the

smallpox, and after the smallpox, and before the

smallpox, none of you know where the cremation sites

are.

That's all I have to say, thanks.

THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you.

MS. SUSIE ISNARDY:

(TRANSLATION)


Mr. Bell-Irving?

MR. BELL-IRVING: Mr. Chairman, if I may, just

for Chief Ivor Myers, respond by saying that it is

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Taseko's intention to have the archaeologist who

oversaw the study and is the permit holder for that

investigation present at the upcoming technical

session at the end of this month.

So I would invite discussion with somebody

far more knowledgeable than I on the extent to which

they have examined the area and identified the

existence of sites.

THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Chief Myers?

CHIEF MYERS: I know there's quite a lot of

area to look at. For myself, it was before me. I

don't know the site very well. But I've been there.

I hunt that area. I fish that area. And I don't know

exactly where those burial sites are myself. I don't

know exactly where those cremation sites, where the

people burnt their dead in the past.

Before the priests came, our People used to

cremate the people, their dead.

And that's all I have to say, thanks.


MS. SUSIE ISNARDY:

(TRANSLATION)

THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Are there other

questions?

QUESTIONS BY MR. DOUG JOHNNY:

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MR. D. JOHNNY: Good day, Panel, and all the

people here. My name's Doug Johnny.

I guess basically I only got two questions,

you know, for Taseko Mine personnel.

First of all, I was just wondering if they

got permission from our People, the Tsilhqot'in, and

the ones that live closest to Teztan Biny, the Nemiah,

Xeni Gwet'in?

And the second question, did you get

permission from Mother Earth to, even to pursue, you

know, your mining operation?

All these things are very sacred to our

culture.

And what Ivor is saying is very true.

This land is full of spirits.

And also the trees that they have been taking

from our land is they all have a spirit.

And in the Native culture, not only here, but

in all over, you know, we pray to Mother Earth and we

give thanks to Mother Earth for providing that tree

for us.

As far as I know, they've been hauling logs

out of our country since 1960. I wonder how many

millions of trees, you know, that is.

At one time there was over 200 logging trucks

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just on Big Creek area alone, so. But today there's

not very many and it's really depleted the forests.

Yeah, there was a promise of big time jobs

there also, which never, never really happened. I

don't have all the details, you know, but there was

offers being made, you know, for logging equipment.

At this time, you know, we are just barely

getting over the alcohol and drug abuse amongst our

People. We're just now getting stronger and getting

back to the land.

And that land is very, very important to our

People. They have clearcut our land, you know, you

can see it from the satellite photo.

And, like I said, you know, these trees have

a spirit.

And everything in the land has a spirit.

Everything is sacred.

You know, I think you mentioned that you,

what you observed was that there wasn't very many

people using the lake for fishing.

But nevertheless, you know, we're still

speaking for the four-legged relations and the winged

relations, and the ones that live below water, on top

of the water, the rooted people.

These people, they cannot speak to you. But

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in time, they might. You know, in our culture, we are

very spiritual people. And we can hear a lot of

things. We hear most, most things that other three,

three colours of man can't hear.

And when I spoke about the medicine wheel

earlier, that this is what I'm talking about the, the

Black Man, the White Man, the Yellow Man, and the

Red Man.

Most of you probably have seen the medicine

wheel, but there's a lot more to that medicine wheel

than just a little graph on the wall.

Everything is in that medicine wheel.

Negative, positive. There's sacred values given to

our People by what your culture know as God. We know

him as the Great Spirit, or Etsi Deyen. In our

language, it means "Sacred Grandfather".

All these things are important to our People.

Yes, you know, we can go back through history and

retrace our, you know, unfortunate situations, you

know, throughout history, but, you know, we want to go

ahead, we want to go forward. We want to get back to

the land and teach our children, you know, what's

really important.

We asked somebody, "What is the most

important thing to you?" Most people would say,

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"Jobs, money". But in our culture, it's "health and

happiness."

You know, you can sit here and promise us

jobs, you know, but is that really real? Is it true?

Like, over the years, they have hauled

millions and millions of trees out of our land and

we're still the same.

And a lot of people would argue that we're

getting everything for free, which is not true. The

way I see it, the government is paying very low rent

on the behalf of the citizens of B.C. and Canada.

And, yeah, that's the bottom line.

And most of the funding that we get from

Indian Affairs and Health Canada, it's very, very

little.

And on the other hand, I have knowledge that

they do pour millions and millions of dollars into

explorations for oil and for the minerals from the

ground.

And I just have one more question for that

Taseko personnel.

Have you received any funding from the

government on your quest to build this gold and copper

mine?

THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Mr. Johnny. I

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think there were a few questions there directed to

Taseko.

MR. BELL-IRVING: Mr. Johnny, I'll attempt to

answer your questions.

The first was, "Do we have permission from

the Xeni, Nemiah people and from Mother Earth?"

I would say, in short, "no". But I would

also indicate that to date and into the future, it has

been Taseko's conduct and plans to do everything

within the law, within the regulations that are both

imposed on us by government at any level. And, of

course, in that process, government has the primary

duty to consult with First Nations People for any

activity, whether it's the construction and operation

of a mine or for a Notice of Work, or for any

activity.

And so throughout that whole network of

dialogue that takes place, I think it would be fair to

say that there has been certainly consultation has

taken place thus far and we fully expect more to

continue into the future.

You spoke also about your perspective on the

land.

And I would just say that it is our hope and

our purpose in being here today to learn and to hear

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from you about exactly that, the traditional

ecological knowledge, your perspective, so that we can

first understand it and then, two, respect it as we

proceed with the Project.

Your next question was, "Are the promises of

jobs real?"

Yes, they are. We are legally obliged and

morally obligated as a company to build on the

relationship with the community, the Aboriginal

community and the local communities alike.

So they are real. But they are only real if

the communities take advantage of those and want to

actually have a job and have the training and have the

education that goes with it.

The third question was, "Have we received any

funding?"

To my knowledge, no.

MR. BELL-IRVING: No. There would be no basis

for a mining company to risk capital, which, as we've

indicated previously, we have risked and spent in

excess of $100 million so far in bringing this Project

to the point we are today. All of it without any

government funding or subsidies.

THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Mr. Bell-Irving.

Are there any further questions at this

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point?

I understand that lunch has arrived, so this

may be an appropriate time to break for lunch. Then

we can come back after lunch.

Chief Laceese?

CHIEF LACEESE: Yes. Just earlier I'd like

to thank Douglas for doing the opening with the smudge

and the prayer. And I'd also like to thank Doug's

sister Gina for singing us that song and the drums

with her this morning.

Thank you.


(NOON BREAK)

(PROCEEDINGS ADJOURNED AT 12:00 P.M.)

(PROCEEDINGS RECONVENED AT 12:45 P.M.)

THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Chief Laceese,

first of all, on behalf of the staff for the excellent

lunch we've had today. It's much appreciated.

I will also ask if there is any further

questions at this point, and, if there are some, we'll

take them, questions to Taseko. If not, we'll proceed

to the first presentation.

Ms. Smith, you have a question?

QUESTIONS OF TASEKO BY MS. SMITH:

MS. SMITH: I've got about four

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questions.

I was curious about the water quality in

Taseko and in the Chilcotin River. I was wondering if

Taseko had done any testing of the water before they

started and are they also monitoring it as they are

exploring, drilling and that? Just curious about that

because I've just, you know, heard recently that there

are already things in the river system. And I

wondered where that came from.

THE CHAIRMAN: Why don't you respond to that

first and then we can take question by question from

Ms. Smith.

MR. BELL-IRVING: Ms. Smith, yes, we have

monitored the water quality in the Taseko River.

We've not gone as far south as the -- or north as the

Chilko or Chilcotin, but we've monitored the water

upstream and downstream of Fish Creek in the Taseko

River. And we've also monitored, of course, the water

in Fish Creek. And the data is published as part of

our Application. And it does show, as I've reported

in previous sessions, it does show that there are high

levels of metals and other constituents naturally

occurring in the water without the mine being there at

all.

MS. SMITH: Have you done further testing

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to see if those levels are the same or are they higher

since?

MR. BELL-IRVING: We are continuing to monitor

and will do so throughout the life of our Project if

it proceeds and for some time after. So we'll be able

to trace what happens to the water quality both

before, during, and after our Project.

MS. SMITH: But you haven't been doing,

you haven't been monitoring the levels in the last

17 years?

MR. BELL-IRVING: 17 years, no, but we have

about eight years' worth of data that we've monitored.

MS. SMITH: And they are in which volume?

MR. BELL-IRVING: They are in Volume 5, the

Water Quality Volume, and the Appendices that are

attached to it, the Baseline Reports.

MS. SMITH: And I wondered, we had

assumed, I guess, before, that, last year, that

traffic would be going through Farwell Canyon and up

through Big Creek, but we just learned in the last few

weeks that the traffic will be going through the

Chilcotin Bridge. And I wondered how sturdy that

bridge will be, you know, with all the trucks, extra

trucks, you know, large trucks going through there.

Are there plans to upgrade the bridge or is that

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bridge sturdy enough to handle all those extra trucks?

MR. BELL-IRVING: The answer is yes. The

bridge has a classification or a rating that is

assigned to it based on its structure and its design.

And the engineers who have designed our Feasibility

Study have assessed that bridge, spoken to the

Ministry of Highways, who is responsible for that

bridge, and confirmed that the bridge, as it currently

sits, is designed sufficiently to accommodate the

traffic that our mine will introduce to that road.

MS. SMITH: I have about three other

questions. I didn't realize, I'm always taking notes

so I didn't realize you had also pointed out the place

where the motel is going to be or the village or the

camp. I didn't realize that that was on the map that

you had been showing.

MR. BELL-IRVING: Yes, the camp, as it's

called, is part of the Project area. It's on the map

on the wall over there. It shows an area where the

coming together of the road that we're building, the

transmission line, and the plant site itself, in

which, the building in which all of the processing of

the ore will take place. That's a small area up on a

ridge above the Fish Lake.

MS. SMITH: Yesterday you mentioned that,

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and in Nemiah as well, that you will be depending on

rainfall and snowfall to fill the tailings pond and I

guess there was a question, "Where would the water

come from?", and you had mentioned rainfall and

snowfall.

I was wondering whether you had any other

alternative ways to get your water, if there was, say,

a drought, a long many years of drought?

MR. BELL-IRVING: Yes, there is. We've

identified one other source of water and that's the

groundwater. And we have in our examination and

Application, we have explored the possibility of a

drought, a continual drought, or the converse, a

continual period of wet or excessive amount of water,

And we've developed a Water Management Plan that has

the flexibility to be able to deal with all three

scenarios; what we would consider to be a likely

scenario and a scenario of considerable drought and a

period of considerable surplus water. In all three

cases we've developed a plan to deal with the water.

MS. SMITH: And my last question was we

learned, I guess it was the past two days, that you

will be using the bypass around Stone and up on the

road to Nemiah to the 4500 Road. This area is also

range for cattle and horses and there is no fence

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along each side of the road. I would think that it's

going to cause quite a lot of problems for the cattle

and the horses in the area, also for other people

travelling to and from Williams Lake from Nemiah as

well.

But I wondered if you were, if there were any

plans to, say, build a fence on each side of the road

just to make sure the animals are safe?

MR. BELL-IRVING: Currently our Project does

not include plans to put fences along that bypass

road, but our Project does include a number of

mitigations and measures that we would implement and

enforce, such as driver training, such as enforcing

speed limits of the various vehicles and having other

measures for reporting both sightings of wildlife and,

heaven forbid it were to happen, but collisions with

wildlife. There are provisions in the Proposal to

report that and to take remedial action.

So that I would predict, and speculate, that

if it turns out that during the course of the Project

there appears to be an issue or a problem emerging,

that that would be addressed in an appropriate manner

at that time.

But at this point, we haven't included the

building of a fence.

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MS. SMITH: Thank you.

THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you for the questions

and the responses.

Are there any other questions?

Then perhaps we can proceed with the first

presentation.

MR. BELL-IRVING: Mr. Chairman, if I may, there

was a question I didn't answer before the lunch break

and that was the distance of the transmission line

from the Toosey community. And I've used the map at

the back to approximately measure it off and it's 24

to 26 kilometres to the south is the transmission line

from this community.

THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you for providing that

response to the question.

All right, then. We can proceed to the first

presentation. And I'll call Chief Laceese forward,

please.

CHIEF LACEESE: At this time I would like to,

my Elders, to make presentation if they have, because

they get tired quite easily and I would like to give

them that opportunity. Thank you.

THE CHAIRMAN: Certainly.

PRESENTATION BY MRS. JOSEPHINE ISNARDY,

BY SUSIE ISNARDY:

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MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: This is my mom Josephine

Isnardy. Her dad was from a Hereditary Chief. So she

wants to say a few things to you guys.


MRS. JOSEPHINE ISNARDY: (Aboriginal language spoken).

MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: She's saying the land belongs

to the Nemiah people.


MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: She said that they live off

the land and it's their land and I don't think that --

she says it won't be taken away from them.


MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: And she said that they put

out their fish nets out in the lake in the wintertime

and that brings their fish in from the lake.


MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: She said there's not very

many sources are help them. And government are from

our neighbouring neighbours. And she said that's what

they live off, is that fishing.


MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: And she's probably referring

to the living on Social Assistance, you know. She

said that's not enough and that's what they rely on is

the fishing for food.

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MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: She said from a spiritual

perspective, the land was given to the Nemiah people

and they are our neighbours and she feels really

strongly that, you know, to keep it traditional and

living off the land and its resources and she just

said that it's the land is a gift from the Creator.

And some people call it God.


MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: She said when you watch your

own people suffer, there's a lot of poverty. And she

is just concerned mostly about that, because she

doesn't want the land damaged from all this mining.



FORMER CHIEF ROGER WILLIAM: (Aboriginal language spoken).


(Laughter).

MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: I don't know if I should say

that.

THE CHAIRMAN: We are now very curious.


MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: She's just putting a sense of

humour into it. She said she used to party out there

and, you know, be with her people out there and so she

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has good memories of that.




MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: She just said that it's their

land and it really basically is their land and she's

just worried about the land being damaged and not

providing the way we used to live long time ago and,

like, hunting of moose and stuff like that, fishing.


MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: She's wondering why is it so

important to put the mine in there? To her and the

people and the Elders, the fishing is more important

than money or anything else.


MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: She said that if the mining

does go through, she thinks that the people will be

very sad and because that is their way of life and to

take that, it's going to be really sad for them. And

the future generation, the kids that are coming, they

are not going to be able to really enjoy what the

generation that enjoyed in the past.


MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: She said that, to me, I feel

like just the warrior aspect is coming out and she's

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saying that if they don't want to, there's no way that

this is going to happen.


MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: She said that's all she has

to say.

THE CHAIRMAN: Could you, please, on my

behalf, thank Mrs. Isnardy for her presentation.

Chief Laceese, are there other Elders that

wish to speak?

CHIEF LACEESE: Probably not right now.

There might be a few more coming later today and maybe

tomorrow.

THE CHAIRMAN: That would be fine. We will

have them speak whenever they arrive, whenever you

wish to have them speak. That's very appropriate.

Would you like to proceed now, please.

CHIEF LACEESE: Yes.

PRESENTATION BY CHIEF LACEESE:

CHIEF LACEESE: My name is Francis Laceese,

And I'm the elected Chief here at Toosey.

And I'm also a member of the, an Executive

Member of the Tsilhqot'in National Congress. That's

part of our Hereditary system.

Also, I've been involved in one way or the

other probably going on 20 years now, been Chief for

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about quite a number of those years, just I've been on

Council and Band manager and those types of, so kind

of I know what's happening.

I'm also a criminal, I guess. I've been

charged in the court for defending some of our

territory. We were at that time arrested by the

military. They have a 10-square-mile training area

just north of us here and they were getting a little

too carried away with damaging that was happening on

our lands and with the water, so we blocked the road a

few times, quite a few of us, our members.

So we got put in jail. And they didn't know

if they were just going to charge us civilly or

criminally, but they decided to charge us criminally,

any ways.

And they were there with their lawyers. And

we didn't have lawyers at that time. But we didn't

really want any lawyers there any ways. They were

asking us, the judge was asking us, "Where's your

lawyers?", and we said, "We don't have any lawyers

with us here today because we're here to tell the

truth." That's what we told them.

I guess first of all, regarding this whole

situation that our Nation finds itself in regarding

the proposed mining out at the Fish Lake. I guess,

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like some of the people on the mining there, they said

it's been going on for about 17 years or maybe even

longer.

And I guess both governments' been involved

probably that long.

But I think, you know, the way this whole

system is, you know, where we are today here with the

EA for the Federal Environmental Assessment, you know,

now, today, after 17 years, we find ourself in this

position with the, you know, where everyone is saying

that they are, you know, doing these studies and, you

know, other studies. And, you know, I think if

something like this size of a project that is being

proposed, then the impact that it's going to have on

us, the Tsilhqot'in People, something like this should

have been at the forefront before, not at the end of

the, not at the end of the, you know, at the eleventh

hour. You know, it seems very, you know, that -- I

don't think...

But at the same time I'm still questioning

the whole, this whole process regarding these EAs,

whether they are Provincially or Federally. I'm still

questioning that whole process that the governments

have put in place. Not just for us here at the

Tsilhqot'in, but for other Nations where the same

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process is being used to, to, I don't know if it's

consultation they are after, for us to be, you know.

But I don't agree with that, that whole process that

the governments are putting out there, you know, in

this way too, too ...

I guess you probably heard a lot of what our

People have been saying regarding the, about our land,

you know, as Tsilhqot'in Peoples.

You know, we have been here for I think

thousands of years, and those stories, our stories are

oral tradition, not too much is written down, you

know, so it's passed down from generation to

generation. And that's always the way it has been.

And you probably heard about the way our

People are connected to that land or to the waters, in

whichever way.

But, you know, it's a very, like our

spiritual person was saying, that our land is full of

spirit, as, you know, as we all are. And I think it's

a very strong connection. Because all out in our

territories, that's where our People are buried, you

know, because of whatever, you know, whenever they --

from a long time ago. And, you know, those -- and

everything else out there is connected to us in, you

know, in the different ways. And that's where we get

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our strength from is being out on our lands and our

waters.

You know, if we're out there, that's where we

feel as one with the land.

And that's where our legends come from is

from the land and from the waters. We have a lot of

legends and a lot of stories that are passed down to

us. But I can't stress the importance of that, you

know, what's sacred to us, that we're dealing with

serious, you're dealing with a serious issue, whether

it's how that sacredness is connected to the land or

to the water, and it's got a connection to us. And

it's a very serious issue when you're dealing with

that and trying to make a resource in those same

areas. And I don't think that's acceptable to us as a

Nation in order to, you know, that we have to maybe do

things elsewhere, our animals or our fish have to be

moved elsewhere for us to continue. You know, I don't

think you can move our rights around. That fish in

Fish Lake is our right, as I see it.

I don't think we can move any other of our

rights to somewhere else and say, oh, we're going to

move your Aboriginal Right over here to hunt or to

fish over here, you can't do that over here no more,

you have to do it over here.

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I don't accept that. And I don't think none

of our Tsilhqot'in People will accept that either.

I also heard about, I was out at Stone

yesterday and Mr. Bell made reference to wealth that

they were after, you know, they were after the wealth

of the what's in that ground and it's going to be a

wealth for everybody.

But then, again, our People don't view that

wealth in that same way, you know, as a non-Native

person. To them it's, you know, it's a monetary,

monetary system. And that's their way of life. And I

guess it has been ever since they have landed on our

shores or wherever it is that they came from, that's I

guess accepted in a lot of the world as it is today.

But to our Nation, that's the Tsilhqot'in

Nation, we are no different than another country, like

a small country. We have our own system, our own

language, our own way of life that's been there for a

long time.

So when you get back to, I think that goes

back to the land and what's out there, that's our,

that's what we look at as wealth. You know, that's --

most Nations are like that. They are most happy, you

know, when they are helping, when you're helping

somebody, you know, whether it's out on the land.

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We're very giving, you know. Seems like the more you

give, that's the way it is. At least for myself,

that's the way it is.

And back out on the land we have basically a

seasonal round of different activities we do at

different times of the year. And all those years, our

spring, summer, fall, and winter, there's a purpose to

be out there at those times. Whether it's the

gathering of our foods or just to be out there at

those times because of the way the weather is.

And again, certain things are done at certain

times spiritually, you know, for ceremonies, you know,

those things, those things are also there, and our

People have followed that, again, for a long time.

And the proposed power line is one area that

our community here is very concerned about.

As it is, you know, when you're looking at

the maps that everybody else has been producing, you

can see all the activity that's been happening out

there regarding the logging. That has been a big

impact on us for years.

And not just us as a Peoples, but the animals

that are out there regarding their migration routes.

There's lots of different species that are being

impacted. You see a lot of lakes and streams being

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diverted or drying up. And just the animals that we

depend on are harder to find out there.

And we've had that concern for many years.

And that was another area we shut the road. This road

that goes through the Reserve here used to be a main

access route to the logging trucks and to the

forestry. It used to be a forestry road right through

the middle of our Reserve, but we got tired of it back

in the '90s and we shut the road down. They wanted to

negotiate but we told them there was nothing to

negotiate, so they built a new road around us.

And I think that's the type of determination

and, you know, with who our People are as Chilcotins,

Tsilhqot'in, when they a lot of the times we will not

accept what the governments or the people that want to

do any sort of activity on our territories. I think

it's up to us as a Nation to let any, you know, major

activities that's going to be happening in our

territories is up to our People as the Tsilhqot'in,

whether they want that to proceed or not.

We are, some of the Chiefs, we are just there

as their messengers, but the decision lies with the

majority of the Tsilhqot'in People. And I think the

majority of us, we do not recognize the provincial

jurisdiction. And in the same, that same case, the

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Federal jurisdiction they think they have over our

territories.

Because I think the governments and companies

are living a lie that, you know, there's, you know, if

you know your history, and if you know a little bit of

law, you know, I think a lot of them know that, but

still they keep pushing us as Nations to -- they are

after our minerals and our resources that belong to

us. And I don't know if the governments and the

industries, they want to do it the hard way, you know.

They have had 17 years or 20 years, whatever it is, to

get to where we are today and they are still saying

they are denying us that right. Something's wrong

here.

And it's not just us here in this territory,

but all other territories in B.C. and right across

Canada.

So I don't know, I think there's laws there

that they put in place. 1763, Royal Proclamation.

You know, those type of issues. That's the, what they

worked out back then saying that they have to make

treaties with the Nations in order to proceed on to

their territories. And in this territory here, that

never has been done. We've never given up none of our

land. Nobody's, we've never surrendered it to anyone,

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and we've never lost it in war. And our People have

gone to war for that same purpose. It's protecting

their territory.

And I guess that's left up to us today to

continue on that fight, if that's what it is, for the

protection of our territories. Because I think they

have been getting it away, getting away with it long

enough for what is left of our forefather territories

now as it is.

You know, they have used genocide, you've

heard that word a few times. They have used that germ

warfare on our Peoples since a long time ago. They

wanted to kill us all off so we won't be here in the

way of those same resources, those resources. And you

know, our way of life that our future generations are

going to keep, they are going to live like that, too.

Our, you know, our language is very strong,

and the way we live is very strong, and we don't want

that altered or changed in no big dramatic ways.

And it seems to me that the same genocide is

still here today to push whatever it is, their

agendas, whatever it is ahead to eliminate us. You

know, that's poison that you're talking about out

there. Not just in this area, but other areas.

So I don't think our Nation is going to

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accept this, what's been proposed. And I ask you as

the Panel to give that strong message back to the

Federal, whoever that minister is, I forget his name,

but they keep changing them, and that this not go

through at this time.

You know, because, because of who we are as a

Peoples.

And, you know, with the Court case, Xeni

Gwet'in referred to as the Xeni Gwet'in Tsilhqot'in

court case, you know, that's I guess that's about as

far as it's ever went in any court regarding

Aboriginal Rights and Title.

You know, but now they're trying to say that

it's -- one day, both governments are going to say,

yes, you do have Aboriginal Right and Title. They

have no choice. But all this time they have been

delaying it. It's a big delay game that they play.

That, you know, we wait until we give -- they feel all

those minerals and other trees and whatnot belong to

them, so they are getting rich off of that. And the

mining companies want to come in and get rich on our

expense.

So, you know, our case is in appeals. It's

going to be there for a while. But, like I said, one

day they are going to admit, you know. But it's

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really hard for, you know, a thief to sit in judgment

of his theft. That's what's going on.

So I think as a Nation, that we'll do our

utmost for this Project not to proceed. You know, and

we'll do whatever it takes, because that's how serious

this is. It's for the people to decide. And we have

a lot of allies that we've been involved in with other

Nations. You know, I've been to a lot of areas where

I've helped them protect the same thing with what

we're talking about here today. Maybe it's a

different resource, ski resort or whatever it is, you

know.

But I think the international area has to be,

you know, they have to know what's happening in this

territory because this same type of thing seems to

happen in a lot of, all over the world. You know,

some people, they get killed, you know, if you stand

in the way of any progress, so-called progress. And,

you know, if that's what it has to take, that's what

will have to happen.

I guess that's about all I have for now.

And I would like to thank you. And like I

say, this is a -- we take this very seriously when the

governments and multinationals, you know, continue to

push us, you know. We've been here and we've been

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pushed a lot. But I think that's gone far enough.

And that's I want you to -- and we'll be doing

whatever, you know, with the Province, also, for doing

what they are doing and I don't agree with that.

And especially DFO.

I forgot about DFO, there. Department of

Fisheries and Oceans.

You know, that's, they are another. I don't

think they should be giving out any permits to anyone

to let them destroy a lake that's got live fish in

there. I think that's wrong. And they have stuck to

that for all these years and that's one of the most

biggest reasons why this lake hasn't been destroyed

yet. Because DFO said that's the rules that they have

to follow by and they said, no, you can't, there's

live fish in here.

But then, again, the Governments have been

changing the rules, you know, so that they can, DFO

can get around that and say, well, now the rules have

been changed, we can now give you this permit and you

can go ahead and destroy that lake with fish in there.

I don't think that's right. I think

somebody's going to challenge, you know, this whole

process. It's a wonder nobody has yet now today

anywhere.

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You know, they keep, they keep living that

lie and they are thieves on top of that for what's

going on here today. And they are letting it happen.

So I think they are walking on thin ice and

I'd advise them to back off.

So thank you again for listening.

THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Chief Laceese, for

your presentation.

Are there any questions from Taseko at this

point?

Panel members?

I think we don't have questions at the

moment, but I'm assuming, as we hear others during the

course of today and tomorrow, we'll learn more about

how your people use the land in the area of the

transmission line. And also we heard from

Mrs. Isnardy earlier that she has often gone to Fish

Lake and that area. So I'm presuming that we'll hear

more about this in the next few days. So I won't ask

you any questions about that at this stage, if that's

okay.

CHIEF LACEESE: That's fine. Thank you.


I think the next person we have on the list

is Arnold Solomon. Is he here?

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MR. SOLOMON: Me, already?

THE CHAIRMAN: Just hold on. Let me just

check. I'm sorry, I'm not following my own directions

very well. So you're okay for the moment.

The next person, actually, is Councillor

Georgina Johnny, if she is here.

Ladies before gentlemen, I guess.

PRESENTATION BY COUNCILLOR GEORGINA JOHNNY:

COUNCILLOR GEORGINA JOHNNY: Good afternoon, my name's

Georgina Johnny. I'm a council member for the

Tl'esqox, Toosey Band.

And for me, I heard a lot of things that was

already said. And Chief Francis has spoke very well.

Mine is very simple.

For me, and I think for the majority of our

People, we're very simple people. What you brought

forward today in itself is so overwhelming for a lot

of our People. And for me, and the rest of the

people, like I said, we are very simple people. We

live off the land. And a lot of the things that, that

are on the land are things, fish, moose, and

everything, those are the things that we live off and

those are the things that are going to be disturbed.

And I really feel for the Xeni Gwet'in People

for what is going to be happening over on their land.

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I wouldn't know what it would feel like if that were

ever to happen to us in our own territory. A lot of

things have been said. And me, I look at our future

generations. The young kids. You say you're going to

take 20 years to do that. What are the impacts?

What's going to happen in between the 20 years?

There were a lot of promises that were made.

It was going to be put back the same way that it was.

I don't feel that's true.

With the mine itself, I don't think, what I

heard, I don't believe that's going to be true either,

that you're going to move the fish and that they are

going to survive in Prosperity Lake. It's just like

moving one of you guys to our Reserve. How are you

going to survive? That's what I would like to see.

That's happened to us, too.

We've had a lot of impacts with the Indian

residential school.

And you talk about dollars, you know. Jobs

for our People. What is that going to create? You

know, I don't think -- to me, I always think

long-term. 20 years is not that long for our People

to have these jobs. We could live off the land for

way more than 20 years. Not the jobs. Not the

dollars. We can survive on the land. That's how

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we've always been.

When you are going to put a hole, a mine that

big, it's like putting a hole in our hearts and our

kids' hearts.

It's pretty harsh when we hear all that.

And I like the way Chief Francis spoke.

And I haven't been to the other meetings, but

I'm quite sure they all spoke well.

And for our backyard, you're talking about

putting in the hydro poles. That's going to affect,

again, our hunting. And I'm not too sure what's going

to happen with the river.

I, myself, am a fisher woman. Before my

father passed it on to me, grandfather, so forth.

Now, I'm teaching my kids how to fish. We live on

those, the salmon that comes down the river. What's

going to happen to that later on in the years?

Those are big concerns for us because that's

the people we are, we are very simple people. We live

off the land.

Gold is not going to bring dollars. Gold is

not going to bring us anything. Not in the long run.

I seen a little poster out there that one of

our kids did. I believe in that. They said they

don't believe in gold. The gold for them is the

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animals, the plants, and everything off the land.

That's our gold.

We have been here for years and years from

the beginning and we expect to be here for that much

longer.

Thank you.

THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Councillor Johnny.

Any questions? No.

No, we have no questions. Thank you. Your

views were very clear. Thank you for that.

Next we have Nora Johnny. No? We have --

Nora may not be here.

MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: She's tomorrow, she said.

THE CHAIRMAN: So we have some changes, I

guess. Next it's Douglas Johnny and then Teresa

Johnny, I believe. Are they here? Douglas Johnny.

Oh, I never did get your first name, I'm sorry,

Mr. Johnny. So I didn't know I was calling you

forward.

PRESENTATION BY MR. DOUGLAS JOHNNY:

MR. D. JOHNNY: Well, that's a name I've been

given in the White Man's way. Actually, my name

should be Doug Lulua. I'm from the -- well, the

family that comes from Eagle Lake and later on Nemiah

Valley, Xeni Gwet'in, that's where my people are from.

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Yeah, I just want to mention just how

important our People understand our culture.

This is the way the Creator gave us a way of

life and gave us the seven, seven values. And he also

gave us a sacred pipe and the seven laws to the pipe.

I can only speak on my own culture. It is

very clear to our People that this is the way the

Creator wanted us to live.

The other three colours of man on Earth were

given something else. And I believe the White Man

were given the Ten Commandments. I'm very certain of

that. Yet they tried to knock that into our skulls

when we were at the mission, but I guess we were just

a little bit too strong. Yet they tried to make us

believe in the mass, you know, their way to pray. But

the Red Man, their way to pray is out in the land.

Very sacred out there. There's many, many spirits,

you know, that still travel the land.

Even this Mother Earth has a spirit.

And Grandmother Moon. Or Uncle Sun. And the

stars. This is where we came from, the Star Nation.

And some day we're going to go back there.

Our life upon this Earth, you know, is very

short. Even if you live to be 100, you know, it's

very short. It's just like a little blink, you know,

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in time.

I'm saying this because I know. I'm not just

making these things up.

I am a sun dancer. I'm also a pipe carrier.

But the medicine man that presented that pipe to me,

he said it belonged to the people. He said, "This

pipe does not belong to you but you are to take care

of it for the people."

He didn't say what people. He just said "the

people". It could be the White Man, Black Man, Yellow

Man. Who knows. He didn't say. That's all I know is

that pipe is very, very sacred. And I earned that

right to carry that pipe by doing my vision quests. I

had to go all the way to Berry Butte in South Dakota

to do the vision quest. And I went to the sun dance

in Chelsea in Montana. And there, again, for four

days and four nights, no food or water.

And these are the sacred ways given to our

People by the Creator.

The Lakota People have taught me well. They

taught me the right way. And they call the Creator

Wakantonka, which means "Great Mystery". They said,

"You will never ever see the Great Mystery as a

human". I think they said, "You will see him only as

a light".

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They also told me to respect Mother Earth and

Grandmother Moon and everything that's female in this

universe.

So every time, full-moon time, you know, we

do a full-moon sweat lodge ceremony. And that's to

honour everything that's female.

And that includes everything:

Mother Earth, Grandmother Moon, the plant

world, the people, the four-leggeds, the winged

relations, and the ones that live on top of the water

and below water.

And our own humans. Yeah, that's what they

told me to do.

And that's what I've been doing for the last

since 1993. That is the first year I went to sun

dance. I'm only talking about what I do just so that

you people can understand and know who I am.

I think earlier during the day I mentioned

that the medicine wheel and inside that wheel there's

the four colours of man. It's also it's our physical,

it's our emotional, it's our mental, and spiritual.

All these things are given to us by the Great

Mystery.

And every human on this Earth, every living

thing, there's a medicine wheel inside of them.

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Yeah, it doesn't matter who you are. It

doesn't matter how rich or poor you are. It doesn't

matter how strong or weak you are. There is a

medicine wheel inside each and every one. That

includes the four-leggeds, the winged relations,

everything. Everything has a spirit.

That's, just like I said, the Lakota People,

they taught me well. It came as a dream.

And I went to a medicine man, and I asked

him, "What does that dream mean?", and he said, "You

need to get down to Berry Butte in South Dakota to do

your vision quest." And I did. And I brought my wife

and her children.

And then he said, "Now you have to go to the

sun dance."

I had no idea on what these things were. No

idea. I had no idea about a sweat lodge.

But the medicine man that told me these

things, he's just told me to follow, follow my dream.

And that's all I'm doing.

And we also know that this land is very

sacred to our People. And the trees that's been

removed, you know, from this land, that's very sacred.

When you take a life, it doesn't have to be a human

life. A lot of times, you know, the spirit, they will

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wander on this land for some time.

I don't know about the White culture too

much, you know, their spiritual values. I'm sure it's

similar. And these were given to, to the people, all

colours of man. Those ways are sacred.

When these people wrote the Bible, they are

not kidding. Just like what a woman named White

Buffalo Cow Woman brought the pipe, brought that

Sacred Pipe to our People. She wasn't kidding,

either. She said, "This is how I want you to live."

A very, very humble woman, but very strong. She says,

"You people are having a hard time. So our

Grandfather, Wakantonka, you know, he asked me to help

you out, so I'm bringing you this bundle with the pipe

in there. And there's seven values that come with

that pipe and this is how you must take care of the

pipe." And he said, "If you don't, you will not be

people. You will just exist."

So there's a group of people in South Dakota

that never gave up doing, following those sacred ways.

They never gave up.

At one time, they had to go 20 years

underground. That's, I mean, out of sight. They had

to go far out of their way, you know, to do the sun

dance, the vision quests, just to keep the culture

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alive.

But today it's alive and well. It's very,

very sacred way. It's nothing to, it's not like we

used the pipe or a sweat lodge, you know, to get our

way. And we never pray against anyone.

The pipe is too, this pipe that I carry is

too, too sacred, you know, to use in a negative way,

you know, I just cannot do that.

I'm just telling you these things, you know,

so you can understand just a tiny, tiny bit of our

culture and our beliefs.

Those sacred values were given to us by the

Creator.

You know, we've been struggling as people for

generations. Most of you know what these things are,

you know, residential school, alcohol and drug

addiction, you name it.

So maybe that's the reason why I had a dream,

you know, to relearn some of those values and to

retrieve, you know, some of the things that we left

along the way.

So we can teach, you know, our younger

generation. Teach them the values, you know, to grow

up in the right way.

Today, you know, there's still a lot of

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violence amongst our People. A lot of suicides.

Murders. Car accidents. You name it. But we're

slowly crawling out of that rut. And I believe that,

you know, with the mine, if it was to go ahead, you

know, I believe, you know, our struggle would be that

much harder. Because I already know that there's

people, Orientals, moving into our territory. And

they are just getting ready, you know, in a drug

trade, and God knows what else.

And we're one of the colours of men on Earth

and we're just as important as the next colour.

And I talk about the medicine wheel. There's

the, like I said, the four colours of man. And the

Creator give each colour of man a task to do. And the

Red Man are the caretakers of this land. It was never

viewed that way by the government. And the Coastal

People, they were the caretakers of that land, the

ocean, and everything in the forests.

You know, it's impossible for us to go out

and actually take care of the land or create laws, you

know, for that purpose. What the Creator was talking

about was for us, you know, to follow those sacred

values and to pray.

So, you know, and the Creator hears our

prayers and he will see to it, you know, that these

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things are done.

You know, sometimes as a human being, you

know, we forget, you know, just how small we are.

We're nothing, really, if you really look at it.

Yeah, we think, you know, we are something,

but we're not. Because we need the air to breathe.

We need the water, water of life, and we need the

land. And we need to eat, you know, each and every

day. We need good clean water.

You know, this Band here, they have been

buying water for the people here for I don't know how

many years now. And we have a well and a water pump.

It's useless, you know, we can't even water our

gardens with it because of all the things that's in

there.

So that's how sacred, you know, this water

is.

And I'm just barely learning about the four

directions. Actually, six. Six directions to the

west direction. That's to the land of the Thunder

Beings. And they are the ones that give us the water.

They are very, very powerful, very sacred beings,

spirits. And the same way to the north, the east, and

the south. And then to the Sky Nation, the Creator,

and to Mother Earth.

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There are some medicine people down in the

Dakotas that actually could hear the voices in the

wind. They can hear even the plant life, the rooted

people, they can hear them talking.

And they certainly, they know that this Earth

is crying. I'm not just making this up, you know.

This is what these, our People know. Because there's

no respect.

I learned from the medicine people. They

said, sure, you can take something from the Earth if

you really need it, but you must get their permission.

You must go up to the mountain and you must pray to

the six directions. And whatever that you're taking

from the land, he said, to leave something behind.

Could be tobacco, a little gift, food offering. You

know, this Native spirituality that I'm talking about,

you know, it seems very, very simple. Seven values,

seven laws. But try walking this way.

Like, when I go up to the mountain when I do

my vision quests, I'm talking one-on-one with the

Creator. And I don't pray for myself. I pray for my

people.

And if I come down off that mountain, and I

do something else, for example go to the bar and drink

or do drugs or whatever, I would be telling the

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Creator, "Remember when I was up on that mountain

talking to you, I was just only kidding."

So these ways are very sacred. And

everything that we do, the Grandfathers are watching

us from all six directions. And these ways are very

sacred.

And, yes, this country do need jobs, all

right. But like I said earlier, you know, they have

been hauling trees out of our land for 60 years. How

many trees is that?

Yeah, think about it. There was 200 logging

trucks hauling out of Big Creek alone at one time in

one day.

And the people of Williams Lake are still

hollering, you know, "a lot of our loggers are out of

work, we need work for them at the mine".

How are you going to fit 5,000 workers in a

mine like that?

That's not the answer. They have been

hauling logs and trees out of our land for 60 years.

And they still want more. But there is no more.

And it's going to be the same, same with the

mine. Sure, they can extract ore, gold, or whatever

from the land for 20 years, and then what?

You know, our People are just barely crawling

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out of that rut in alcohol and drug addiction. And I

really believe that even if we were to work, you know,

that's not the answer for us either.

We are the people of this land and I believe

that we are very sacred people. We're God's chosen

people, you know, that's what I believe.

And I think for anyone to come into this

land, I think, you know, they have to sit down with

the Tsilhqot'in Chiefs.

The government doesn't see it that way. They

don't want to see it that way.

And instead, they throw us a bit of money and

they say, "here, fight, fight for it."

And the way I see it, the government is

paying a very, very low rent on the citizens' behalf,

so they can enjoy, you know, this beautiful country.

That's what I believe.

You know, to keep us quiet, you know, open up

Bingo halls and casinos, open up the bars. Because

they know that that money is going to go right back to

them, you know, probably within a week.

So that's all I have to say for now. And I

thank you for listening.

My real name is Friend of the Bear.


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THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you, sir, for your

presentation.

We are certainly pleased to listen to you.

And our next speaker is Teresa Johnny,

please.

Oh, sorry. A question? Yes.

QUESTIONS BY TASEKO:

MR. BELL-IRVING: My apologies.

Mr. Johnny, may I ask a question. You

mentioned several times "seven values". And I

understood you to say that they were given by the

Creator and that they come with the pipe.

Would you be able to share with us what those

values are?

MR. D. JOHNNY: Well, number one is to

respect, respect all of God's creation and to be

humble. To be honest. To be truthful. To have

courage. Wisdom. And fortitude.

MR. BELL-IRVING: Sorry?

MR. D. JOHNNY: Fortitude. The power of the

mind.

And the seven values to the pipe, I can only

talk about three because I've done all three.

And number one is the sweat lodge or the

purification lodge.

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Number two is the vision quest ceremony.

Number three is the sun dance ceremony.

The other four I can't really talk about

because I don't know much about it. But there is

seven in total.

MR. BELL-IRVING: Thank you, sir.

THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you, again.

I understand that Elder Theresa Billy has

arrived and she would like to speak next, please.

SPEAKER: Her daughter Ida should sit

beside her for support. Because when she came in

here, she asked for Ida.

PRESENTATION BY ELDER THERESA BILLY (GIVEN THROUGH

MS. SUSIE ISNARDY):


FORMER CHIEF WILLIAMS: (Aboriginal language spoken).

ELDER T. BILLY: (Aboriginal language spoken).


She's just wondering why the mining is going

to her Reserve and she just sees it as damaging the

land.


MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: Said that the Aboriginal

People are always, like, put on the last and we always

suffer the most.

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MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: And said that all the plants

and animals will also be, will be gone, and that's

what they live off.

MS. I. ISNARDY: And she's saying how would

you guys pay us or how would the mining pay us back

later after it's gone, or something she's saying. Or

replace it or something, yeah, replace it.


MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: She said that I don't know

how the people will go on living if all the land is

damaged.


MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: She said I've been there for

years and all I've done to supply myself is with fish,

just eating fish in the nearby lakes.


MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: She said it is her land at

Nemiah and then she said that she just can't see

anybody coming in and doing what they want to do with

the mining.


MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: She's originally from Nemiah.

It's where she was raised and she's just married into

Toosey, so.

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MS. SUSIE ISNARDY: That's all she wants to say.

THE CHAIRMAN: Could you thank her for me,

please.



Next we have Teresa Johnny, please.

PRESENTATION BY MS. TERESA JOHNNY:

MS. T. JOHNNY: My name is Teresa Johnny. I

married into the Tsilhqot'in land here. My husband is

Doug Johnny. I'm from the Laich-kwil-tach and

Kwicksutaineuk People from my mom and dad, the late

Paddy and Joyce Grey. My mom was from Gilford Island

and my dad is from Cape Mudge.

And I've been here since 1990.

And Xeni Gwet'in is a very beautiful land.

And I worked in the Royal Jubilee Hospital in Victoria

from 1976 to 1989 as a Licensed Practical Nurse. So I

was out of touch with Mother Earth until I came up

here. I wasn't used to walking in the land. And

there's great beauty up here.

And I feel if this mine goes in, it will

destroy all the sacredness of Xeni Gwet'in.

And my very first drive out there, it took my

breath away seeing the mountains of Xeni Gwet'in.

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And my niece, Tonya Johnny, was a Xeni

Gwet'in Princess for their Pow Wow out there. And my

daughter, Alyce Allen, was a Junior Princess out

there. And so this land means something to me,

because it's so beautiful there. And you feel welcome

to their territory.

So I can only imagine how their People would

feel if their land is destroyed with this mine.

They say nothing will happen. But my husband

and I have travelled and the Poplar People from

Montana, they don't have very good drinking water and

their People can't afford to buy water and a lot of

their People end up on kidney dialysis and they

usually die because they drink the water when they

shouldn't be drinking it.

And when I first came, I brought my husband's

late son, Derrick Johnny, and my daughter, Alyce, to

the public pool in Williams Lake. I was sitting in

the sauna. And there's three meto people, like

non-Native People. There was a couple and another

gentleman. And I was listening to them talk. And

they have travelled worldwide. They have got the

money to travel to many places. But they said there's

nothing like the Chilcotin Plateau. You could spend

all the money and travel worldwide, but there's

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nothing like this beautiful land here.

And I'm just here to support the Xeni Gwet'in

People and the people of Tl'esqox that I'm married

into. The Tl'esqox, all my relations.

THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Mrs. Johnny.

We'll proceed to the next speaker, then. And

it's Arnold Solomon. We've caught up with you, I

guess. Are you able to come forward now, please.

Would you like to sit down, if you're more...

MR. A. SOLOMON: No, I sat back there. I

think I sat too long.

THE CHAIRMAN: Wherever you are more

comfortable.

PRESENTATION BY MR. ARNOLD SOLOMON:

MR. A. SOLOMON: I'm just going to add to

what Francis Laceese said.

My name is Arnold Solomon. I'm a Toosey Band

member.

I was born and raised here.

My father was from here, but my mother was

from another Res up the highway there.

But, I've seen a lot of things happen with

our territory. I'm pretty sure you heard a lot from

the two bands that you already have been. You know,

as you can see here, you know, there's very few trees

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left and we don't have jobs in this area.

The Federal Government put us on these small

little Reserves to become ranchers and farmers, you

know. And somehow that kind of failed.

It always comes down to water on every band.

This band has gone through this water rights

just to put a little bit of water on our hay fields

and to flood some meadows, you know. And we seem to

fight our local people all the time, the local

ranchers. These are non-Native People, you know.

They got ranches in this area. They seem to own the

water. They seem to they say they own the land, you

know, they paid for it. But we never sell it to them,

you know. But then yet they seem to own it.

And we do have a creek going through here.

And I used to remember irrigating our hay land just

below us there with my father. And the local rancher

from down below, it's called Cotton Ranch. It's just

about four kilometres from here. He used to come up

and get mad at my father because he was telling my

father he was using too much water and they were not

getting enough, you know. And they keep throwing this

at my father that they got the first water rights.

And all this time I thought we had the first water

rights.

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But as time as went, gone by, so we started

looking into this, about this water rights and we

found out that they had the first water rights.

You know, the Federal Government is supposed

to take care of the Native people. That's what the

way I understood it, you know. But then and yet they

sold -- the band had the first water rights back in

18-whatever that was there, that year. They took that

away from us, took it away from the band and sold it

to the ranchers below us. And this rancher was a

foreign person that came from another country into our

land. He purchased his ranch. He's supposed to have

just a certain amount of cattle, but he end up

purchasing more and his cattle, you know, he had the

most cattle in this area and he said he needed the

water.

You know, the Department of Indian Affairs is

supposed to be, like, protecting us, kind of more or

less. That's what they were getting paid for. But

then and yet they just went ahead and they didn't even

ask our people if it was okay to sell our rights to

local rancher down below us.

But that even took like, close to 15 years to

bring it to court. You know, that's how long it

takes. Every time a Native band has to take anything

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to court, seems like it takes forever.

So that's just one, that the water's

important to our People.

But sometime you look on the table. One of

the Band Members was saying earlier that our water is

not very healthy to drink. Could I ask you where you

get that water from, the one that you have there? Is

it from the tap here or?

THE CHAIRMAN: Oh. Okay. I was wondering,

too. Now I know.

MR. A. SOLOMON: But any ways, we are also

involved in what Chief Laceese said about the

Military. They have their training area just maybe

eight kilometres from here. It's a 10-mile square

there. There's also lakes in that same area.

And it's just like a funnel from that area,

the Military training, it comes down. You can see it,

comes down to this area, we're here, then it narrows

down towards the river.

Now, what the Military has done to that area

is contaminated the lake.

My father's mother, they used to fish in that

area. But in the '60s, some year there, the same

thing, the Federal Government went and swapped land

from Vancouver, they swapped the land, the Military

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used to own that land in Vancouver, they swapped that

land for this land without even asking the Native

people if it was okay for them to do that.

But then and yet the Federal Government just

went ahead. Militaries are blasting, playing their

little war games, you know, and we're not allowed up

there, that sort of thing, can't go swimming in the

lakes no more because it's completely contaminated.

They told us there's explosive still in the

waters. They are still active yet, even right today.

So we kind of had to tell our People not to swim in

those lakes anymore.

It's called Fish Lake also. But the Military

made a name of it. And there's an island there. It's

called Drummond Lake. It's on the map. You can see

it on the map. That lake there, you know, that's

still, it's really important that the water that we

always been speaking of here today, that the local

ranchers, their cattle goes and drinks the water out

of that lake every year. And then they turn around

and sell their cattle to the meat market, you know.

Then we all end up, like our People are just start

coming across with a lot of medical problems. Like,

you know, like cancer is one of the biggest one, you

know.

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And same as the water that comes down,

because the only thing that I know that the water has

to come from somewhere, okay. Now, if you look at the

valley, it's like a funnel, it comes straight down

there and narrows out down there.

So we do drink water here for the last --

Doug was -- Johnny was saying that we end up start

purchasing water from Williams Lake, you know.

But then, yet, you know, the Military won't

go there and clean that up. They refuse to, you know.

So we decided to roadblock them and tell

them, you know, that that's it. How do we know you're

not contaminating that water that comes from there

down to our People? Because we seem to be -- every

now and then somebody will get sick, like a couple of

days, or sick again. You go to the doctor, you come

back, a month later you're sick again. And it

continues on.

That's what the Federal Government seems to

do to the Native people all the time. You know, we go

to court, it takes forever.

The Fish Lake, the other Fish Lake, the one

at Xeni Gwet'in there, in their area, and Stone Band,

my uncle also has a little farm up in that area. But

I don't know how much damage that's going to cause on

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his little, I think it was like a meadow. And the

only water you can get on the meadow to make hay out

of every year is you have to flood the area.

And if you drain the lake, I don't know, is

there another lake there that he's going to get water

from?

But my uncle passed away about four or five

years ago. But his son took over the area there. I

haven't spoke to him about what damage that would

cost. Which he's still paying every year on taxes on

that land. Which he shouldn't be paying. But then he

still has to pay, because his father was paying for it

every year.

Francis was mentioning earlier about, you

know, we roadblock and most of our members got

arrested. I got arrested right alongside Francis. He

was the first one and I was the second one.

And right today I'm not allowed to get a

hunting permit or a gun permit. Can't even buy

bullets or anything. Even today. This is what the

judge ruled out. Provincial judge did that.

It doesn't really matter to me because I'm

not a hunter. You know, my two brothers are, you

know. The gun's a little too heavy any ways. I

should be carrying arrows and bows. But even that,

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you know, the loggers are taking all the trees and

dragging these logs over the trees that you're going

to make bows and arrows out of, you know, they just

went over and destroyed everything.

But just to clear up just a small little that

has been bothering me while I was sitting back there.

I guess more or less I'll be asking you.

This pit that we're talking about, this pit,

it shows on the map there, but are we talking about

like it's only going to be like a mile wide and a mile

deep? Or what are we talking? Maybe it's like

10 miles, maybe?

MR. BELL-IRVING: The pit that I showed on the

picture there is a kilometre-and-a-half wide and half

a kilometre deep, 500 metres deep, and 1500 to 1600

metres wide.

MR. A. SOLOMON: Oh. I was at Stone the other

day. I think you mentioned about that pit was

supposed to be further past the Chilko River. I don't

know if I heard you right or not. Because I'm getting

old, I'm kind of getting deaf here.

MR. BELL-IRVING: What I was, I think, if I

recall, referring to was the bottom of the pit will be

lower than the Taseko River.

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right?

MR. BELL-IRVING: Yes.

MR. A. SOLOMON: Well, I'm going to have to

take a trip up there to find that out. Because I

thought we were talking about, like, you know, like

five miles wide and 10 miles down.

MR. BELL-IRVING: No.

MR. A. SOLOMON: I was just going to explain

to my Elders that we're talking about a big hole here.

MR. BELL-IRVING: It's a big hole, but it's

only 500 metres or half a kilometre deep. Not 500

miles.

MR. A. SOLOMON: Yeah, well, I was going to

stretch it a little. I was going to tell the Elders

that we're talking about the pit is going to be wider

than my band here, you know, like, how the valley

goes. I thought that was how big it was going to be.

But I guess not. So I'll just leave it at that.

Well, there's a lot more I'd like to say, but

Francis more or less said what, you know, what I was

going to say. And the other Councillor and the Elders

said most of it. That it is important to us.

But just once again, that my family tried, we

tried our hardest to -- we found a job on the outside,

my band here. We tried that. You know, I know you

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said there's going to be jobs for us, but I kind of

really don't believe that, because I have been on a

job where it seemed no matter how much you try, still

the White society keeps you down. They don't pay you

the wage they are supposed to pay you. We seem to get

paid less than everyone else, you know.

But we fail because the Federal Government

figured that I should pay them on taxes and GST and

that sort of thing. And I lost my company.

I'll just leave it at that. You know, I was

just kind of curious this hole, about how big it was

going to be.

Thank you.

QUESTIONS BY THE PANEL:

THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Mr. Solomon. I at

least I have a question. But I'll just see if others

do.

I was interested, you mentioned there are not

many jobs here at all in the community. You also

mentioned ranching and the problem with water.

My question is, is ranching still an

important source of jobs here in the community, in

spite of the difficulties with water supply?

MR. A. SOLOMON: Well, it is, it is, we could

start up because we do have more or less second rights

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on the creek that goes by. We made sure we get a

handle on that. But the only thing is, to purchase

cattle, the cattle is pretty poor right now. To,

like, you can raise, like, ten heads and then try to

sell maybe two or three of them. You know, you got to

buy feed for them, too. The land that we have here,

like, each family has a certain amount of acres, not a

lot of acres.

What I'd like to see is that to teach our

next generation to go back to take care of cattle and

horses. Because that's what my Elders were doing. My

father was doing it. My granny, my great-granny, they

belonged to her.

But we lost the cattle. The biggest thing

that hurts me the most is that, a little earlier you

heard residential school, that's where I was, when I

came back, there was no cattle, no horses. They end

up, my great-granny passed away, and the two sons got

rid of the cattle because they couldn't keep an eye on

them. And, you know, there was not enough room

either. Because in this area, there were only about,

oh, about five miles wide and maybe four miles long,

you know, that you can't raise cattle in there.

Because the local ranchers got the grazing rights on

the outside to the boundary line, which we can't put

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our cattle out there.

And when the lease comes up from the local

rancher on these lands that we tried to get in on that

to take over the lease, but the Provincial Government

figures they give it back to that local rancher. It

doesn't matter how high I jump or how loud I hollered,

you know, still they just, you know, those are the

things that happens to a lot of Native people.

There's, like, you heard Francis, like

there's no trust, you know. There's no honesty.

But if, you know, there is going to be a time

where we have to get back to these ranching and

farming, you know. Don't you guys think that the

turkey was pretty good there for lunch. I was hoping

they would cook you some bear meat or something. That

would be something.

Thanks.

THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Mr. Solomon.

Our next speaker is Peyal Gilpin, I believe.

PRESENTATION BY MR. PEYAL GILPIN:

MR. GILPIN: My name is Peyal Gilpin. I

come from Tl'esqox, Toosey Reserve.

My father is Francis Laceese and my mother is

Denise Gilpin.

I have been raised, born and raised here.

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I have grew up for 12 years and I've watched

how the land and how the lakes and how they became.

I've travelled around and I know the area and

looks, looked better than how it does now. It's, it's

just because of all the mining and the forestry that

destroys, how it takes away our trees and harms our

wildlife and takes away our advantage of hunting and

fishing.

It's how we usually survive, we hunt for meat

and for fish.

It's how the way our life is.

It's how, just the way it is. It's our

culture and our tradition.

Tradition to learn how to survive and how to

get off, get, get what you need from the land, what

you deserve. You could get, like, berries or stuff

like that. And if they take that away, our youth

would have nothing else to learn, nothing else to do.

They would just sit around the house, nothing to do.

Could just go outside, go for a hunt, you could go for

a hike up in the mountains.

And I've been around Fish Lake just one time

and it's very beautiful around there.

I've fished a couple of times there just by

being there once. And I've, I've hunted around the

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back road area there. A lot of wildlife such as deer,

moose. And it's pretty much how we survived back then

or how they survived back then. But now it's just

surviving off of midugh foods, such as like grocery

store or whatever.

I think it's more better surviving the way it

is, the way it was back then.

And that's pretty much all I have to say.


THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Are there any

questions? No?

I wonder, I have one question, if I could, if

you have a moment. It sounds like you are learning

the traditional ways from the way you were explaining

things to us. And I wonder, do you in this community

use the area more to the south of here for hunting?

It sounds like you've been to the Fish Lake area once.

But the area south is closer, that's what you call

your backyard, I think; is that correct?

MR. P. GILPIN: Yep.

THE CHAIRMAN: So most of your time and in

your observations have been spent to the south of

here, I guess. Yes. Okay. Thank you.

Our next speaker is Valerie Johnny, please.

PRESENTATION BY MS. VALERIE JOHNNY:

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THE CHAIRMAN: No need to be shy. We are

not going to bite, so.

MS. V. JOHNNY: Hi name is Valerie Johnny

and I'm from the Toosey Band.

For me, I think it's -- I don't think it's

right that they should have the mine in. Like, I've

been listening to everybody speaking and everybody is

right, everybody lives off the land.

I was the one that provided the food today.

And while I was shopping yesterday, shopping in

Williams Lake, I was thinking, "Why, why are we buying

White Man food? We should be providing traditional

foods. Fish, moose, deer, berries, soap berries."

But then and yet we just go to Williams Lake and buy

White Man food.

I myself, I do a lot of fishing in the

Chilcotin River. There's very few women out there

today that fish in the river.

Maybe you guys should put yourselves in our

shoes and see how we feel. You wouldn't like it if

all the Natives got together and wanted to run a power

line through your Res. I don't think that's right.

Like, we all, like, we live off the land.

Just like when I brought lunch here today,

and Roger was asking for the traditional foods, and

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that's what I wanted to prepare. But I got hired on,

like, last minute.

But for me, I like to help out people. I do

whatever I can for people. Because I've lived here

pretty well all my life. And these last few years

I've been bringing my children down to the river and I

have a brother. He pretty well lives at the river.

In fishing season. And my brother teaches my kids to

fish. And he also teaches my kids to hunt. He takes

my kids out anywhere. Like, they go across the river,

they go out to Fish Lake, they go out to Bald

Mountain, they go down by Cotton Ranch, they go

everywhere, all over.

And I don't think it's right to have the

mines.

I myself, I support Xeni Gwet'in.

My daughter wanted to come down here and

speak. She's 13 years old. But she said she's going

to try and come down tomorrow.

If you take a look around, around our

Reserve, what do you see? They put a power line

through here and then might just create more illnesses

or whatever from the power lines.

If you guys were to eat our traditional

foods, I don't think you would be able to eat it every

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day, but we could. All the First Nations people,

that's what they survive off of. If they told me, if

they gave me a couple week's notice about this today,

to cook, I would have went around and I would have

gathered wild meat, moose, deer, fish, soap berries.

And the Elder that was speaking here earlier, Theresa

Billy, I believe she's the only Elder here that tans

hides. She does that every day, all year-round.

Somebody drops off moose hide, deer hide, they ask her

to do it and she does it.

And when she does her hides, like it's a lot

of work for her to do it. And she sells it to the

midughs very cheap. She could make a lot of money off

her hides. But she doesn't. Because she's, she's a

very caring and loving lady. She's the one that made

the bannock for you guys today. Because if I made

bannock, it would turn out like this. (Taps on wood).

But I always look to her, like, when they ask

me to cook or something, and I always get her to make

bannock for me because she's a good bannock maker and

I do like to learn things from her.

Unfortunately, when I was growing up, like, I

myself, I don't know the language. And it hurts me.

I can understand it but I can't speak it.

Thanks for listening. That's all I have to

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THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you for your comments.

Are there any questions?

MR. BELL-IRVING: Just a comment, Mr. Chairman.

Valerie, thank you for the lovely lunch.

MS. V. JOHNNY: Thank you.

THE CHAIRMAN: I was also appreciating the

bannock, especially, it was very good, and now I know

who cooked it. But thank you.

Our next speaker is Isabel Dodd. Do we have

Isabel Dodd? Is she here?

SPEAKER: Yes, she is. She's coming.

THE CHAIRMAN: Oh, she's left. She'll come

tomorrow, then, perhaps.

Is Norm Diablo here, then?

PRESENTATION BY MR. NORM DIABLO:

MR. DIABLO: My name's Norm Diablo. I'm

from the Stl'atl'imc Nation on my father's side. And

on my mother's side is from the Prairies.

This is my wife. I'm married into this

Reserve. One of my children. We have six children

altogether. Two grandchildren.

I was asked by the Chief to come here and

talk to you people today. I have some concerns. I

have some questions.

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I guess I'm a hunter. I'm a fisherman. I

was brought up that way. Been hunting and fishing all

my life.

With my other children, they also have

territories in the Stl'atl'imc, in the Okanagan in the

Merritt area.

So I spent most of my life in the Merritt

area.

So I'm a little bit familiar with mine sites,

with the two mines that are over there, the Logan Lake

Mine, and the one in Merritt there.

And I witness what tailing ponds have done to

the land when the mines have already extracted

whatever they went after, whether it was copper or

coal or gold or whatever they did. The Craigmont

Mine, it's been shut down for years. And the old

tailing pond there, it still sits there. Nothing

grows on it.

And I'm really worried about the one up in

Logan Lake. That's man-made, that tailings pond. And

it's huge.

And it sits so high up, the water that's down

below is the Thompson River that flows into this

Fraser River.

There's no evidence from any of these mine

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companies that can't say that that stuff don't seep

down into those rivers.

My question to you people, you know, where do

you shop? Safeway? Costco? Overwaitea? Where do

you get your food?

See, it's accessible for you to go to any

store and buy your meat, your fish, your vegetables.

For a great percentage of the First Nations

people in British Columbia, we live off this land. We

depend on it.

With that mine up in Logan Lake, that used to

be a big habitat for moose. But I wouldn't go in

there and shoot a moose today, or a deer, because they

go down and they water out of that tailings pond.

What kind of chemicals are in there?

I wouldn't trust it. And I told my children

the same thing, "Don't hunt here. It's no good no

more."

So what you're doing up here, I have to speak

on behalf of my two youngest boys as their father,

because they come from this territory. So since I've

been here, you know, I've got to know this territory,

I hunt. We just started fishing down at the mouth of

the river where the people here used to fish a long

time ago. Did a little bit of research with some of

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the Elders and they said that they used to use a gill

net down there.

So we re-established that. So my children

can have that. I'm not going to be around forever.

But they are going to be here and my grandchildren.

You mine people, where do you live? Do you have lots

of land? Can I go dig in your backyard? Can I move

my machinery and make a big hole? Can I make a

man-made lake there? Are you going to give me

permission to do that?

What are you going to do after when you

extract everything that's there that you want? Where

are you going to go? Back to your cities, back to

wherever you come from. Right? You got what you

want.

What is that going to leave the people here

that have to live here? What's that going to leave

for my grandchildren, my great grandchildren? Because

that's what you're doing, you're coming into our back

yards, you know, taking whatever you want, then you're

going to leave.

This gold thing has been a real big thing

since the 1800s. They tried building this trail. Go

up to this, what do they call that place up there

where we went, by Quesnel?

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SPEAKER: Barkerville.

MR. DIABLO: Barkerville. And there's evidence,

anybody got in the way of them going after this gold,

they were going to annihilate them. How do you think

smallpox come here?

The smallpox didn't come here, you

wouldn't be talking to a handful of Indians, you'd be

talking to millions of us. And that affected these

People here, this Nation, all the way down to

Lillooet, all the way down to the coast.

And if it never stopped there, this here land

would be another Lower Mainland. They wanted to put a

port down there.

So what is gold? What is gold to you?

Money?

Are you able to breathe with money? Which is

life.

What happens when that market goes away where

they are not going to pay you no thousand dollars an

ounce?

What if, in 10, 20 years, that drops where

it's not worth a nickel? Then what's going to happen?

You can't predict what's going to happen

10 to 20 years down the road.

You can only hope that it's going to bring

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you a big dollar that somebody's going to profit from

it.

Well, who's going to profit from it? A

handful of mine people. You are going to employ a

handful of people, a couple hundred people, maybe for

whatever term that you set out to dig this hole. But

you can't sit here and tell the people that you're

going to stop there.

That's what they did at Highland Valley.

They told the people that they were only going to go

in there for a certain length of time.

They are still there today.

Trust. There's no trust when it comes to

greed and money.

You look at on my mother's side. They

promised those Black Hills to the Indian people

forever. That was in that treaty. But as soon as

when it was gold discovered in that territory, what

did they do? They wanted to annihilate the Sioux

people.

Now, in the highest courts in the States,

they found that they have done wrong. They never

honoured those treaties.

The government said we have to compensate you

for it. They offered millions and millions of dollars

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to the Indian people. But they turned it down, even

though as poor as we are. This is the Third World

that you walked into here today.

Come down to our house. We'll show you how

we live. Look around you, you know.

They still turned down that money.

I seen a couple speakers get up here and they

start talking about some of their family has ranches

up there, boy, you start writing right away. What are

you going to do, compensate them for it to take their

land?

We don't want your money. Our land ain't for

sale.

Never was.

You might have 1.0 percent of the Indian

people today that will stick their hand out to you and

take your handout. But you got 99.0 percent of the

people to worry about.

You're talking about this watershed up here.

The people are worried that it's going to leak into

this river that runs into the Fraser.

Have you gone down to my people and talked to

them? Because that Fraser River goes all the way down

to the coast. You have a lot of tribes, a lot of

Nations.

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The next Nation is the Shuswap. Then you

have the Stl'atl'imc. Then you have the Thompson.

Then you have the Sto:lo Nation.

Have you talked to them about your plans?

Because if those toxins, if toxins that you

use to subtract that, extract that gold leaks into

this water, you're not just affecting the Tsilhqot'in

People here, you're affecting everybody.

There's a mine over here that's run a pipe

right into the Fraser River. Has there been anything

done about that?

Is there scientific proof that it's not

toxicating that water, poisoning that water?

It's not just a mine. It's the pulp mills.

It's everything.

Fishing on that river all my life, I listened

to those old people. They said that water used to be

clear at one time. Where you could see the fish. Now

it's so dirty you can't even see nothing. And that's

not from the run-offs, the spring run-off. That

water's like that year-round now.

We've caught fish where it looks -- it's not

sea lice. We still have it at our house. And we're

going to give it to the, these people back here that

work at TNG to have it analyzed. It looks like it's

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got cancer in the meat.

So I'm not sitting up here saying that you're

going to be the main cause, but you're going to

contribute if you poison that water.

So I'm the only Stl'atl'imc person here.

Have you gone to talk to my people? There's 11 bands

that make up the Stl'atl'imc People.

You go there and convince them that this is

going to be safe.

You go there and tell them what they are

going to profit from it. How they are going to

benefit.

Sto:lo is probably the biggest Nation. Go

talk to them. Because that's where that water goes.

It goes right down to the Lower Mainland.

But I want to know where you live. Where do

you live? What city do you live in? How big is your

land? Have you forgotten there hasn't been a treaty

signed in British Columbia? We're not like the rest

of the provinces.

Everything's still under negotiation. We're

not going to sell ourself out short. That's why a lot

of the tribes haven't made agreements.

This land ain't for sale.

And really, what gives you the right to come

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into our land and just dig and take whatever you want?

If you can do that, let me go do that to your

backyard. Let me bring my bulldozer. My explosives.

I want to extract whatever you have in your backyard

to benefit my family.

I'm speaking on behalf of my family here, and

myself, and the people. Even though I'm not from this

tribe, I'm still First Nations of this land here.

You guys put on a pretty good show coming in

here like this. You should be sitting back here. We

should be up there. You should be asking us

permission.

I walked into the setting like this, this is

bullshit. Really.

Is this going to benefit you from going to

community to community so you can bring back to the

government, "oh, we tried to reason with all the

Indian people"? So they are going to give you the

green light.

Well, you don't have one Nation to worry

about, you have a lot of Nations.

That water's important to the people. To all

people. Not only the First Nations today.

I heard you didn't have very good success in

100 Mile. That's quite a ways away from here. From

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where you want to dig.

You didn't have the support there. Why?

They know that water runs through their town.

You had a little support from Williams Lake.

From some of the businesses. Because your workers,

your mine people, they want your business. They want

you to buy a new truck from them. They want you to

stay in their hotels. They want you to shop out of

their stores and feed out of their restaurants.

Because they want this, your money.

But that might be good for how many years?

How many years are you planning on being here? What

you're telling the people, what I believe is a

different thing.

Like all the other mines that have set up;

well, we're only going to be in here for a certain

length of time, we're only going to dig a hole this

big, we're only going to make a tailings pond this

wide, this big.

Why are they still there?

People should have went around to these other

mines and these other sites and took pictures so we

could put them up so they have a real good idea what

you're going to do up here.

When you come here, bring your scientific

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facts. Bring them and prove to me 150, 20, 30, 100,

150 years down the road that it's going to be safe.

If you can't prove that to me, you don't have my

support. And I'll put my life out on the line for my

family.

I guess you didn't expect to hear this, did

you? But it's the truth. We don't have the option to

go downtown and buy our meat down there, like you do.

Or go into fancy restaurants and buy your fish, your

lobster, and whatever else.

We depend on each season. For the

four-legged, defend ones, our root, our berries, our

medicine.

So you bring back that scientific facts that

you can prove that it's not going to have a long-term

effect. Don't guess.

You've taken everything else, now you're

going after our minerals. What's going to happen when

that's gone? What are you going to go after next?

Ain't nothing to go after.

You hear about it all on TV all the time.

This is going to be the big thing now: Mining.

How long has the forestry lasted? How much

longer does it have to last?

So you bring back your scientific facts, you

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know. How long this mining's going to last before you

take everything? There's nothing more to take, then

what are you going to do? Guess what, you're going to

be like me, you're going to be poor like me. You're

going to have to depend on this land just like I do.

When your people first come here, what do you

think they did? They were settlers, they were

farmers. They grew their food. They depended on this

land.

But something went wrong up here. Gold.

What has gold done in the beginning of time, since it

brought this of value? It made men crazy. They would

kill for it.

So for the little bit of money that you're

going to get out of it, are you willing to take that

sacrifice to take a chance on killing all these

people?

If you can't bring back that scientific

facts, in 50, 100 years that it ain't going to have an

effect, then don't bullshit about it. Don't say, "oh,

oh, we can do this, we're sure about this".

Look what it did when it was first discovered

there was gold in this land, when they wanted to build

that trail through here.

Do your homework. Study on it. It's out

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there. It's in your archives. It's in your museums.

It's in paper.

I went down and listened to that guy there.

I often wondered where smallpox come from.

We believed it come from the blankets. But now we

know where it comes from; people going after gold.

They deliberately brought that here from tribe to

tribe, from community to community.

So to me you're doing no different.

You're coming in here to take what you want

at any cost. This is just a big show going from

community to community. I'll give you credit, though,

you're probably one of the first mine people that have

done it. But I don't trust you.

What are you going to do, go back to the

government and say, "oh, well, we tried"?

But are you listening to us?

Are you really listening to our concerns,

what these people have to say, not only here, but all

the other places you're going to?

And are you willing to go to all the people,

all the way down to where that water goes into the

ocean?

Because if you're not right what you're

saying, it is going to affect everybody.

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At what cost?

How many billions of dollars are you

expecting to extract from this hole?

How many shareholders are involved? Are you

shareholders? How are you going to benefit?

Are you going to give me 50 percent of your

shares? You should. You're in my backyard.

If you don't want to do that, let me go dig

in your yard. I want to see what I can find.

Look at this guy. Do you have kids? You got

grand-kids? This is what we've got to think about

right here, the next generations. Not what you're

going to profit.

Or are you thinking, "oh, all the money I'm

making out of this, I'll be able to give to my

children, my grandchildren"?

Because the way these government people are

thinking today, and the way this world's going, that's

all you got left is the minerals.

And what's left? What's left after that?

What are you going to take?

Talk to me.

Convince me.

I'm only speaking for a few thousand people.

Go to my territory. Talk to them. Convince them.

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There's gold on my Reserve. How come there

ain't no mines there? How come they ain't let nobody

up there digging around?

That's Fountain Valley. We don't want you in

our backyard. That's why there's no mine there.

That's about all I got to say.

THE CHAIRMAN: Okay, thank you, for your

comments, Mr. Diablo.

I think at this point we'll take a short

break and there are a few other speakers afterwards.

(BRIEF BREAK)

THE CHAIRMAN: We have two speakers on the

list left, just announce them, Jim Peter, and

William Isnardy.

Please come forward, then, Mr. Peter.

PRESENTATION BY MR. JIM PETER:

MR. PETER: My name is Jim Peter. I am a

local person around here. I live in the Military

Base, where they were talking about, where the old

Fish Lake is. There is two of us that live out there

and that's all Federal land.

And I'm surprised there isn't ranchers here

because I used to be somebody and had my life

destroyed. Now I'm starting over again.

Anyways, so I used to be somebody. And I've

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lived on both sides of the fence. I live White Man's

way and I live Native way. And that's where I was

raised earlier.

When I was somebody, I lived White Man's way.

Very popular. I was an athlete, pro rodeo, and

everything, but when I got hurt, I got hurt at work,

not at a rodeo. And compensation, I had to fight and

chain myself to buildings for WCB for eight years.

Finally the Steel Workers Union in town went on my

side and I got a pension. But I don't get a big

enough pension to live in town, so I got forced to buy

land out here because I can't pay rent on a pension.

It's cheaper to buy land, right.

Because mortgage is cheaper than rent.

Right.

So I'm a young guy, I'm pensioned off, I have

to live with what the government gives me. I'm not

allowed to work. So therefore, I moved out here to

live off the land, like the Natives used to do.

You'll be surprised how many berries and wild

onions and stuff are out here. There's so much food

and better than all the American food that we're

buying.

In Williams Lake, coming into the Husky, it

says "B.C. fresh foods". You go in there, it's got

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American stickers on their produce.

We have maybe 5 percent of our food.

In America, the bees, they are killing off

all the bees with their sprays and pesticides. And

without the bees, they don't pollinate the fruit

trees. And without the fruit trees, we don't have the

animals.

The most two important things here in life is

air and water. Knocking all our trees down, we're

producing so much pollution. Our trees breathe in

that pollution and put out air.

I've flown medically back and forth to

Vancouver for 67 operations. And the bug kill has

reached all over the place. If you fly, there's

hardly any trees. And we're producing so many

chemicals with our cars, how can the trees keep up any

more?

Now, the bug kill is gone. There's still

lots of wood out there that can be salvaged but it's

not worth much, so they just leave it.

And when some of it, Forestry says some of it

should be in the ground to give protein back into the

ground. But there's just way too much protein been

put into the ground than a normal tree falling every

few years.

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And now, they just leave the garbage there.

Same with the Military. I live out there.

There's land mines 20 feet away from the road.

There's moose getting caught up in snare wire. And

they can't get out. You can't get pliers and cut that

wire. So you end up cutting the moose to get him out.

'Cos why let that meat waste? I can't afford to buy

meat in the store. It's got steroids in it. I was a

rancher. I was a pro athlete. I know what goes into

the beef.

They put these little pellets, they look like

a flint from a lighter, inject it into the back of the

calf. And that's called beef boosters. Okay.

Now, this beef boosters, I've been to

Pregnant Outreach, which is a pregnant outfit for

women, young women who never had a child before, to

help them eat right and stuff like that. They have

done research where their kids have eaten all

vegetarian and some kids are eating meat. The kids

that are eating meat are getting way bigger and

stronger and faster than the vegetarians.

The cattle out here, when they are born, they

get the beef booster. The natural ones with no

steroids or nothing, they are half the size or even a

quarter of the size of this meat growing here. With

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these steroids, the calves are three times the size.

They get more money.

When you cook it in your frying pan, it turns

into water and shrinks because that's what steroids

is, is water.

So the ranchers are making money. And that's

why there's no ranchers here because they are waiting

for you guys to do damage to the property so they can

collect the money. They don't care.

Their cattle is eating the grass. Their cow

run up in these mountains and eat the grass.

The little lakes are poisonous. The cattle

eat that and you are eating that poison that you put

into the mine because you buy your food from the store

and that's where it comes from, us who raise the

animals that go into the store. And we are raising

the animals wrong.

Back in the '70s, they had a problem. They

could not get rid of the carcasses, the bones, the

hides, the guts, they couldn't bury them, take too big

of a yard, how many thousand cattle get butchered

every year. So they decided we'll cremate it, we'll

cook it and we'll crush it into bone and then put it

back into the feed and make vegetarian animals

meat-eaters.

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But they did not cook it proper. Okay. And

inside the bone marrow is DNA. And the DNA was alive

and got back into the cattle. And that is why I

believe we had mad cow disease, which totally

devastated this country up here for the last three

years because Americans shut the border down on us.

They got rid of all their cattle first and then ours

slowly trickled in. Because they were overpopulated

with cattle.

Without our cattle we have no food. Without

water we have no water to give to the animals so we

can't eat.

I live off of berries up there because I get

a small pension. And wild onions. There's lots of

plants out there that people can eat and no chemicals.

They are opening up a farmer's market in town

because they realize we have to start growing food

here because Americans are contaminating it.

I mean, if all the bees die, that's going to

really, really hurt us because a lot of our plants we

eat get pollinated by the bees and other insects that

fly on there, not just the bees.

And I seen this on a Chief's TV, because we

don't have satellite TV where we live. We don't live

with power.

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There's two of us. There's another -- older

people there that live there, okay. Three years ago

they went into the military, the government, okay, and

they did water sample tests. Okay. Those old people

were drinking out of that well that the military put

in, said it was clean drinking water. Now they got a

sign up that they just put there two years ago; the

water's contaminated.

Those poor people, those old people living

back with me there, they have been there since their

father's been there, their grandfather's been there,

and that property's been handed down through the

family. It's never been sold. And now they are going

to die off because they are always sick now.

I have to plough that road out there because

the Provincial Government will not plough it. But yet

I have a piece of private property that's mine in the

military zone around me.

But because I had the Mayor, Scott Nelson,

last year try to get ahold of Cariboo Road Service, I

have a young handicapped child living out there, plus

two old pensioners living out there, and no one would

plough us.

And I pay road tax.

That's what's going to happen out here. All

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these roads are going to be built, okay, and then

after you guys are gone, who is going to maintain

these roads so we can get through? With the traffic

of the logging through here, and us locals trying to

get back and forth to town safely, it's crazy.

We're getting killed.

Every day I go town, I find dead deer on the

highway and 90 percent of them are from logging

trucks. Big trucks.

We can barely get by, like he was saying,

there's 200 trucks coming out of Farwell Canyon. That

is true, a lot of trucks come out there. And when we

go to pass them, they take the whole road. The cattle

guards are not wide enough for the vehicle and the big

rig, especially if he's overwide, to make it at the

same time. Somebody has to stop. And we do and let

the big guy through or we're punched.

It's going to cause a big traffic headache

out here for us locals.

And that's my main concern, too.

And the animals, I live off of rabbits. I

live off of grouse. And a lot of Natives here, too,

do, too, live off the grouse, the rabbits. There's

also the squirrel, the beaver, which they trap. And

if we don't trap the beaver, then they totally flood

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us out, so we have to control the beaver. There's no

market for furs no more.

When there was a fire last year over in

Anaham, that's far away from here, right. But, you

know what, all those animals that the land was

destroyed had to move. And you know what, they moved

closer into my land.

For eight years I lived out there raising

wild pigs and chickens and stuff. I got along with

the wildlife, sure, I give some of my animals to the

wildlife. I share my land and my food with the

wildlife and they give me food, which is fair. They

eat my grain and stuff, they eat some of my dead

animals, right, but in return I take from them.

But, when these animals moved in, I had a

whole bunch of strange bears in, they started

attacking my pigs. Now pigs are related to bears. A

female pig is called a sow, same thing with a bear,

it's called a sow. Okay.

Now, same thing with a male. A male pig is

called a boar, and same thing with a male bear, it's

called a boar, okay.

I never had problems. But these animals are

so hungry that they are grabbing anything they can to

survive.

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Now, it's pushed all these animals past my

place, wiped me out, moved them right downtown.

Now, this winter there was a record of at

least four females that I know of from the game warden

that were living in town with cubs. They were killing

deer in old ladies' front yards, in the little front

yard, killing deer, because deer eat in the little

front yards in town, on McKenzie and stuff, because

that's right by the river, right. And little old

ladies are drinking their coffee watching cougars

slaughter their deer right in their front yard.

We went at BJ's Trucking there where I get my

hay, because he gives me a deal on hay, because I

can't afford to buy hay for my animals, so he gives me

a deal. We went in there to load a bail and there's a

cougar almost attacked the loader man. The game

warden had to come down there and destroy him.

Because he was hurt and if you have a wounded animal,

he may turn on you.

And the other females in town, as long as

they didn't cause a problem, the game warden, you

know, what can you do, it's pretty hard to move cubs

and a mom, right. So long as they're not, you know,

causing too much damage, they'll have the cubs and

when they are big enough, they'll move on, right.

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So, you know, but if we start shooting all

those animals coming in and then when that forest

regrows again, those animals have to move back in

there. Well, what happens if these animals that get

into the schools and stuff and we have to destroy,

can't move back into there again.

And the water is the most important. If that

water is contaminated, all these birds and ducks, they

are going to drink that water, then they are going to

fly over to my lake where I live and die there. Then

they are contaminated. Then those animals there that

live there all the time -- like I got cranes that have

been coming there since I bought the property, and

they always have young ones every year and fly off.

But if that poison duck is there and that crane gets

there, that crane will be gone.

So that is the main concern is water. If

it's contaminated. We all need water.

And now that this bug kill has gone and that

the military -- or the forestry has abandoned logging.

They are not. If these mines don't go in, because we

need something to keep us going, right, some resource,

but I think there's other resources that are healthier

and safer to progress to keep the community going

besides this mine.

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There's other ones to look at. Agriculture.

The town has put in two headline papers already.

We're opening a farmer's market in town so local small

guys like us can take our produce, bring it there, pay

a hundred dollar fee, bring it there and they sell it

and take care of it, where we don't have to sit on the

street with a sign going "buy our food, buy our food,"

because I can't afford a licence or a spot or all the

permits to go in Safeway and put up my sign. They

won't let me sell my food in Safeway. So it's pretty

hard for us small farmers to get anywhere.

And the ranchers, why aren't they here?

Their beef's going to get contaminated. Their grass,

their everything. The ranchers live off the land

here. But they also rape the land. A lot of these

ranchers can't make it because of the economy, so they

go into logging and ranching. There's one rancher up

here called Illnicki's at Riske Creek. They own three

ranches. And they came here to this country and made

all their money in logging and they own three ranches.

Why aren't they here? Because they abuse the land.

They rape the land.

If they go now, they are talking about going

after our blue spruce. It was on the radio about

three, four days ago. Because I get radio out there.

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I listen all the time. They are talking about going

after our blue spruce and our fir. That's the only

thing we got left here.

We have no pine.

We got poplar. And they are harvesting that,

but they are doing it at a slow rate, which is cool,

but if this mine does not go in, they are going to go

after our fir and they are going to go after our blue

spruce. And on my property, that's the only thing I

got alive.

I have to clearcut my property because I

can't even walk to pick my berries. I can't even take

my horse hunting because the trees just fall on top of

each other like a fence. And the poor wildlife can't

get in there and get the berries, because there's a

big berry patch but there's a whole bunch of logs

across, animals can't get in there to eat the berries.

So there's way too much damage and waste out

there. Same with the Military. They left land mines

and barbed wire.

When you guys are done, I want to know what

kind of garbage is going to be left there for us to go

through?

You go out there, you'll see 45-gallon drums

of diesel sitting there rotting.

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There's so much logging garbage out there.

Military, too, they are sloppy. They say

they went through there.

The Natives here got them years ago, put a

roadblock up there, what was it five, eight years ago

to make them clean up that mess. They did a sloppy

job. I can bring you right now, 12 land mines are

sitting 20 feet away from my road that I drive up.

You know, what kind of waste are you guys

going to leave behind? If you clean it all up, it's

alright, but you're not going to, because nobody else

does, so why should you.

The garbage out there, the animals, the

insects, get into those 45-gallon drums of diesel and

oil. There's buckets and buckets dumped out there.

In the old days, they had the metal buckets,

correct? I can go on the Military where they used to

log that and I can find those old buckets.

And the Military, they took cars, old cars,

and practised their tanks and blew them up. Buried

them right in Fish Lake. I can show you. And you

know what, it's all the soil has settled down, and

bumpers and frames are sticking up in the air because

they didn't bury them deep enough.

So if they don't bury the garbage deep

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enough, it comes back up. Then what do we do with it?

Some animals got grass there and a piece of

metal sticking up. Moose get their legs sliced. Wild

animals, they get their bellies sliced from metals

sticking up out of the ground. Barbed wire and stuff

like that, that's even worse.

So the animals are getting injured from the

garbage left after you guys are gone.

What you must remember, the food that's on

your table, the meat especially, comes from up here,

so if we don't take care of up here, then you won't

have no food to put on your table down there.

We don't have air and water left.

And the climate, before we used to get four

feet of snow. Last year we only got half. Every year

it gets less and less.

The water level right by the school there not

very far from here used to flood the road every year.

This year, it's that far from flooding the road.

We're getting a lot more winds coming in

because there's no windbreak.

I go to Vancouver. I had my head smashed

open, I have no sinuses, I only can stay in Vancouver

or Williams Lake for a couple weeks. All that

pollution in there makes me sick. That's why I live

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in the mountains because it's the last free clean air.

Now, if we can keep our mountains clean, that

will sweep the good fresh air back into Vancouver,

back into Williams Lake. But we destroy the air, and

the trees up in the mountains, you guys won't have no

air down there.

Because that's where most of the air comes

from.

How many trees are in the city in Vancouver

that used to be? Not no more.

It's all pavement.

You know what I mean? We can't lose our

trees and damage our water. If you guys can mine

safely and slowly extract it, not very fast, and do it

safely, that's fine.

But the long run is we need air and we need

water and we need food.

And if you contaminate the ground, you're

going to contaminate your food, because that's where

our food comes from is the ground.

Like I said, I've lived on both sides of the

fence, and when I got hurt, the Natives, they took

care of me, when White Man made me chain myself to a

fence.

So it's the compensation that you guys

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afterwards, is very hard to get.

I got hurt at work. Why did I have to chain

myself to the building? Because WCB thought I was a

farmer. I work at McDonald's, because I work for

minimum wage, and all I am doing is working my butt

off making everybody rich and feeding people.

Because, like I said, I was a pro athlete, I

was somebody in this town, and when you get hurt, you

are a nobody. I had to start life all over again.

See, that's the problem. Employees that get

hurt at work are not compensated of what they are

promised.

I am serious. I chained myself to the head

office in Richmond, WCB. I got hurt at work. And

then they cut legal aid off. So therefore if you

don't have the money to hire a lawyer to fight for

your rights that you were promised, you don't get

them.

They shut down legal aid. You cannot use a

legal aid lawyer for WCB purposes. You can't. Before

you could. And they changed that law, what, five, six

years ago.

See, my thing is once a worker gets hurt and

damaged on the job because of some modern technology,

he has to be compensated what he was promised. We all

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pay into WCB. If you get hurt at work, you want to

collect your benefits.

And now there used to be a rehab centre in

Richmond for injured workers. Okay. Now all these

people getting rehab, which you really need, I mean,

you lose an arm or you lose a leg, it's hard to

function in the world because you're not used to it.

If you're born without that leg or arm, you can adapt

quicker than if you are 40 years old and lose your

arm. You have to learn to use everything with one

hand again. Hard to wipe your bum, hard to pull your

pants down, like my son, he can't use his arm, I have

to pull down his pants for him and let him go to the

bathroom, right, especially in the wintertime when he

has all those clothes.

So injured people must be taken care of as

promised.

That's all I got to say.

Thank you.

THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Mr. Peter.

We have one more speaker today and it's

William Isnardy.

PRESENTATION BY WILLIAM ISNARDY:

MR. W. ISNARDY: My name is William Isnardy.

I lived at Nemiah half of my life.

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I stayed was there with my mom and Theresa

Billy. We stay on Nemiah and we moved there maybe

half of my life I moved back Toosey.

We used come out of Fish Lake, gill netting,

hunting, and all that. I used to do a little bit of

trapping there. And just used to go up there a little

that way in Taseko, feed cows up there and fish up

there.

It is beautiful country. Do trapping up

there. And feed cows.

I have nothing much to say any ways. That's

all I can say.


THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you, sir. Do you still

go to that area today?

MR. W. ISNARDY: No.

THE CHAIRMAN: Not any more. You used to go

there, I gather?

MR. W. ISNARDY: Yes.

THE CHAIRMAN: Okay. Thank you, then.

You have a question? Sorry, we have one

question.

MR. KLASSEN: Could I ask a question. When

you trapped there, what kind of fur did you trap?

MR. W. ISNARDY: Beaver, some lynx, maybe a

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few coyotes.

MR. KLASSEN: The beaver, are there many

lodges in that area, was it right at Fish Lake or was

it at Little Fish Lake or along the Fish Creek?

MR. W. ISNARDY: It's by the creeks. Fish

Lake Creek and there's some, I don't know, a little

bit just top of Fish Lake where the water come down.

MR. KLASSEN: M'mm-hmm. Thank you.

MR. W. ISNARDY: Okay.

THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you. I guess there is

one more speaker. Pearl Johnny, is he here? She, I

guess.

MS. V. JOHNNY: This is my youngest daughter

here. Her name is Pearl Johnny.

PRESENTATION BY MS. PEARL JOHNNY:

PEARL JOHNNY: I'm from Toosey Band. I'm 11

years old. I've been learning how to fish with my

uncle Charles for the last four years. I started

fishing when I was eight years old, but I've been

going to the river with my mom since I was four years

old. But when I went fishing with my uncle, we stayed

at the river all night and I slept on the rocks.

And we also eat off the crab-apple tree.

There also is chokecherries to pick there and

Saskatoon berries. My granny always cooks good "dig"

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soup, (Saskatoon).

Me and my friend and cousins always play

around the whole Res and if the mine goes through,

where are we going to play once the power line gets

put in our Res.

My uncle Charles always takes us kids

hunting. One time we went out behind the Fish Lake

and we broke down with my uncle's van and there was

like maybe ten of us kids. Once the mine goes

through, where is my uncle going to bring us hunting

and picking berries?

Everything will get destroyed.

So therefore I support Xeni Gwet'in.


THE CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Are there any

questions?

Thank you for coming and telling us what you

do around the lake and how your uncle is teaching you

some of the traditional ways.

Thanks.

I think this is probably, I think you are the

last speaker today, from what I understand.

Then we will close, I think, with a drumming

ceremony. And we will return again at 10 o'clock

tomorrow morning.

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I thank all the speakers who have come to

talk to us today and we will be back tomorrow morning

at 10 o'clock.

We'll close now with a traditional ceremony.

(DRUMMING CEREMONY)

(PROCEEDINGS ADJOURNED AT 4:15 P.M.)

(PROCEEDINGS TO RECONVENE AT 10:00 A.M. ON

SATURDAY, APRIL 10, 2010)

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almost [5] - 2829:5, 2829:16,2829:25, 2840:9, 2959:16

alone [2] - 2869:1, 2911:12alongside [1] - 2924:16alright [1] - 2963:11alter [2] - 2825:16, 2837:1alteration [2] - 2836:21,

2841:20alterations [1] - 2836:21altered [2] - 2827:2, 2893:19altering [4] - 2826:25,

2834:22, 2835:6, 2840:7alternative [2] - 2826:16,

2878:7altogether [1] - 2935:22Alyce [2] - 2917:3, 2917:17America [1] - 2952:3American [2] - 2951:22,

2952:1Americans [2] - 2955:6,

2955:18amount [5] - 2833:5,

2862:16, 2878:14,2920:13, 2928:7

Anaham [1] - 2958:4analyzed [1] - 2942:25AND [2] - 2810:1, 2811:3animal [3] - 2815:5, 2852:3,

2959:18animals [34] - 2835:13,

2840:24, 2841:10, 2846:7,2846:18, 2851:14, 2879:8,2888:17, 2890:22, 2891:1,2901:1, 2915:3, 2952:7,2954:16, 2954:17,2954:24, 2955:11,2957:21, 2958:5, 2958:10,2958:14, 2958:15,

2958:23, 2959:1, 2959:14,2960:2, 2960:3, 2960:4,2960:11, 2962:17,2963:13, 2964:2, 2964:4,2964:7

annihilate [2] - 2939:4,2940:19

announce [1] - 2950:13answer [10] - 2845:1,

2855:25, 2863:11,2864:18, 2865:23, 2872:4,2877:2, 2880:8, 2911:19,2912:3

answers [2] - 2833:16,2833:17

Anyways [1] - 2950:25apart [2] - 2837:18, 2841:22apologies [1] - 2913:8apologize [1] - 2816:17appeals [1] - 2894:23appearance [1] - 2810:1APPEARANCES [1] - 2809:1appearing [1] - 2819:8Appendices [1] - 2876:15apple [1] - 2969:23APPLICANT [1] - 2809:12Application [3] - 2864:1,

2875:20, 2878:12appointed [1] - 2817:18appreciate [1] - 2859:17appreciated [1] - 2874:18appreciating [1] - 2935:7approach [1] - 2861:8appropriate [7] - 2820:11,

2844:3, 2859:25, 2865:12,2874:3, 2879:22, 2884:15

appropriately [1] - 2850:1approval [3] - 2832:9,

2849:6, 2853:8approvals [2] - 2818:4,

2818:12approved [1] - 2827:14approves [1] - 2836:6APRIL [2] - 2812:11, 2971:8April [2] - 2808:15, 2972:14aquatic [1] - 2846:6Arc [2] - 2863:24, 2864:3Archaeological [2] -

2852:23, 2865:1archaeological [5] -

2847:11, 2855:15,2855:18, 2863:21, 2864:20

archaeologist [1] - 2867:1archives [1] - 2948:1area [55] - 2822:12, 2830:8,

2830:10, 2837:4, 2837:13,2838:17, 2838:24,2841:10, 2848:24,2852:24, 2852:25,2858:19, 2863:8, 2864:17,2864:23, 2867:7, 2867:11,

2867:13, 2869:1, 2877:18,2877:19, 2877:23,2878:24, 2879:3, 2885:7,2890:15, 2891:4, 2893:24,2895:13, 2897:15,2897:18, 2919:1, 2919:11,2920:15, 2921:13,2921:15, 2921:16,2921:18, 2921:20,2921:23, 2923:23,2923:24, 2924:3, 2924:8,2928:21, 2930:3, 2931:1,2931:16, 2931:17,2931:18, 2936:6, 2936:8,2968:15, 2969:3

areas [5] - 2838:9, 2855:19,2888:15, 2893:24, 2895:8

argue [1] - 2871:8arm [4] - 2967:6, 2967:8,

2967:10, 2967:12Arnold [4] - 2810:11,

2897:25, 2918:7, 2918:17ARNOLD [2] - 2811:23,

2918:14arrested [3] - 2885:6,

2924:16arrive [1] - 2884:14arrived [2] - 2874:2, 2914:9arrows [2] - 2924:25, 2925:3artefacts [1] - 2853:4aspect [4] - 2821:6, 2825:8,

2835:23, 2883:25aspects [3] - 2845:19,

2845:22, 2853:23assessed [4] - 2848:17,

2851:9, 2851:21, 2877:6Assessment [12] - 2817:2,

2817:19, 2817:21, 2821:4,2832:8, 2835:9, 2835:18,2843:25, 2845:5, 2849:3,2851:24, 2886:8

ASSESSMENT [3] - 2808:3,2808:8, 2809:6

assessment [4] - 2817:11,2817:22, 2835:12, 2835:21

assign [1] - 2857:2assigned [1] - 2877:4assist [2] - 2820:4, 2826:5Assistance [1] - 2881:23associated [1] - 2854:5assume [2] - 2819:7,

2863:15assumed [1] - 2876:18assuming [2] - 2863:22,

2897:13assure [1] - 2818:21AT [9] - 2808:13, 2811:12,

2811:12, 2812:10,2812:11, 2874:14,2874:15, 2971:6, 2971:7

athlete [3] - 2951:5, 2953:9,



2

2966:7attached [1] - 2876:16attacked [1] - 2959:16attacking [1] - 2958:17attempt [1] - 2872:3attention [1] - 2865:7authorizations [2] - 2818:3,

2818:12available [3] - 2820:14,

2830:3, 2850:9avoid [2] - 2855:17, 2865:9B-train [1] - 2842:14B.C [11] - 2823:10, 2823:13,

2823:18, 2828:22,2828:24, 2829:4, 2829:14,2843:6, 2871:11, 2892:16,2951:25

Bachelor [1] - 2863:4backs [1] - 2854:3backyard [7] - 2900:9,

2931:19, 2938:7, 2944:3,2944:4, 2949:7, 2950:5

bail [1] - 2959:15Bald [1] - 2933:11band [7] - 2919:5, 2919:6,

2920:7, 2920:9, 2920:25,2926:16, 2926:25

Band [9] - 2808:23, 2885:2,2898:11, 2909:10,2918:17, 2921:5, 2923:23,2932:4, 2969:16

bands [2] - 2918:24, 2943:6bank [1] - 2822:23bannock [5] - 2934:16,

2934:17, 2934:20, 2935:8Baptiste [1] - 2816:3bar [2] - 2843:18, 2910:24Barbed [1] - 2964:5barbed [1] - 2962:20barely [4] - 2869:7, 2909:18,

2911:25, 2957:10Barkerville [2] - 2939:1,

2939:2bars [1] - 2912:19base [1] - 2830:14Base [1] - 2950:19based [6] - 2823:16, 2824:4,

2825:4, 2862:25, 2877:4Baseline [1] - 2876:16basic [1] - 2834:17basis [2] - 2862:21, 2873:18bathroom [1] - 2967:14Battison [2] - 2809:14,

2820:25BATTISON [3] - 2820:22,

2844:19, 2863:10BC [2] - 2843:3, 2843:5beach [2] - 2838:2, 2838:3beaches [2] - 2840:20bear [3] - 2929:15, 2958:18,

2958:21

Bear [1] - 2912:24Bear" [1] - 2813:17bears [2] - 2958:16, 2958:17beautiful [7] - 2815:22,

2912:16, 2916:16, 2917:5,2918:1, 2930:23, 2968:9

beauty [1] - 2916:21beaver [4] - 2957:24,

2957:25, 2958:1, 2969:2Beaver [1] - 2968:25became [1] - 2930:2become [6] - 2840:23,

2857:11, 2857:13,2857:15, 2863:18, 2919:3

beef [4] - 2953:10, 2953:13,2953:14, 2953:23

beef's [1] - 2961:13bees [6] - 2952:3, 2952:4,

2952:5, 2955:19, 2955:21,2955:22

beetle [1] - 2823:5begin [3] - 2816:19, 2816:24,

2836:8beginning [2] - 2901:4,

2947:11begins [1] - 2849:10behalf [7] - 2843:7, 2871:11,

2874:17, 2884:7, 2912:15,2937:20, 2944:6

behind [3] - 2910:14,2963:10, 2970:7

beings [3] - 2814:5, 2815:14,2909:22

Beings [1] - 2909:21beliefs [1] - 2907:11Bell [9] - 2809:14, 2821:3,

2833:22, 2844:2, 2856:8,2859:2, 2866:23, 2873:24,2889:4

BELL [37] - 2834:1, 2834:10,2834:14, 2844:9, 2844:23,2845:4, 2856:14, 2859:4,2860:24, 2861:14,2861:20, 2862:3, 2862:9,2862:23, 2863:25,2864:18, 2866:24, 2872:3,2873:18, 2875:13, 2876:3,2876:11, 2876:14, 2877:2,2877:17, 2878:9, 2879:9,2880:7, 2913:8, 2913:19,2914:6, 2925:13, 2925:22,2926:2, 2926:7, 2926:10,2935:4

Bell-Irving [8] - 2809:14,2821:3, 2833:22, 2844:2,2856:8, 2859:2, 2866:23,2873:24

BELL-IRVING [37] - 2834:1,2834:10, 2834:14, 2844:9,2844:23, 2845:4, 2856:14,2859:4, 2860:24, 2861:14,

2861:20, 2862:3, 2862:9,2862:23, 2863:25,2864:18, 2866:24, 2872:3,2873:18, 2875:13, 2876:3,2876:11, 2876:14, 2877:2,2877:17, 2878:9, 2879:9,2880:7, 2913:8, 2913:19,2914:6, 2925:13, 2925:22,2926:2, 2926:7, 2926:10,2935:4

bellies [1] - 2964:4belong [3] - 2892:8, 2894:19,

2903:7belonged [2] - 2903:6,

2928:13belongs [2] - 2826:20,

2881:6below [7] - 2869:23,

2904:11, 2919:17,2919:18, 2920:10,2920:22, 2936:23

beneficial [2] - 2832:19,2853:20

benefit [14] - 2821:24,2823:12, 2827:3, 2827:12,2827:20, 2828:22,2830:23, 2859:10, 2862:8,2943:12, 2944:5, 2944:15,2949:5

benefits [4] - 2830:16,2862:1, 2862:6, 2967:2

berries [12] - 2930:16,2932:13, 2934:5, 2946:12,2951:20, 2955:13,2962:12, 2962:15,2962:17, 2969:25, 2970:11

berry [1] - 2962:16Berry [2] - 2903:14, 2905:11beside [1] - 2914:11best [3] - 2856:1, 2860:2,

2972:11better [6] - 2835:22, 2855:23,

2858:12, 2930:4, 2931:6,2951:22

Betty [1] - 2857:10between [4] - 2831:25,

2833:7, 2843:19, 2899:6Bible [1] - 2906:6Big [6] - 2815:7, 2841:20,

2869:1, 2876:20, 2911:12,2957:9

big [29] - 2823:9, 2838:19,2858:5, 2869:3, 2890:20,2893:19, 2894:17, 2900:3,2900:18, 2926:9, 2926:10,2926:17, 2927:11,2937:12, 2938:8, 2938:22,2940:1, 2943:17, 2945:18,2945:19, 2946:22,2948:11, 2951:10,2954:20, 2957:14,2957:17, 2957:18,

2959:25, 2962:16bigger [1] - 2953:20biggest [7] - 2829:20,

2836:20, 2836:21,2896:13, 2922:24,2928:14, 2943:13

Bill [2] - 2809:4, 2817:4billion [5] - 2828:14, 2829:5,

2829:14, 2829:25, 2830:1billions [1] - 2949:2BILLY [10] - 2811:20,

2914:13, 2914:17,2914:22, 2915:1, 2915:9,2915:13, 2915:17,2915:22, 2916:1

Billy [4] - 2810:8, 2914:8,2934:7, 2968:2

Bingo [1] - 2912:19Biny [9] - 2844:14, 2849:18,

2849:22, 2850:3, 2858:4,2864:10, 2864:13,2864:23, 2868:7

biological [1] - 2846:1biologist [1] - 2821:7birds [2] - 2838:13, 2960:8birds-eye [1] - 2838:13bit [13] - 2813:11, 2814:17,

2859:16, 2892:5, 2902:14,2907:10, 2912:12, 2919:7,2936:9, 2937:25, 2947:14,2968:5, 2969:7

bite [1] - 2932:2BJ's [1] - 2959:12Black [3] - 2870:7, 2903:10,

2940:16blankets [1] - 2948:5blasting [1] - 2922:5bless [2] - 2814:23, 2814:24blew [1] - 2963:20blink [1] - 2902:25blocked [1] - 2885:10blue [6] - 2836:18, 2837:25,

2839:25, 2961:24, 2962:2,2962:8

boar [2] - 2958:21, 2958:22Bob [2] - 2809:3, 2817:1body [4] - 2814:24, 2836:11,

2839:19, 2845:10bold [1] - 2861:2bone [2] - 2954:23, 2955:2bones [1] - 2954:19booster [1] - 2953:23boosters [2] - 2953:13,

2953:14border [1] - 2955:6born [4] - 2918:19, 2929:25,

2953:22, 2967:8borrow [1] - 2837:1borrowing [2] - 2834:23,

2835:5bothering [1] - 2925:6



3

bottom [4] - 2829:24,2837:7, 2871:12, 2925:23

bought [1] - 2960:13boundary [1] - 2928:25bows [2] - 2924:25, 2925:3boy [1] - 2941:9boys [1] - 2937:20Branch [4] - 2863:24,

2864:3, 2865:1, 2865:4branches [1] - 2842:6break [3] - 2874:3, 2880:8,

2950:10BREAK [3] - 2811:11,

2874:13, 2950:11breath [1] - 2916:25breathe [3] - 2909:6,

2939:16, 2952:10Brian [2] - 2809:14, 2820:25Bridge [1] - 2876:22bridge [7] - 2876:23,

2876:25, 2877:1, 2877:3,2877:6, 2877:8

BRIEF [1] - 2950:11briefly [5] - 2835:8, 2835:10,

2835:24, 2836:10, 2848:6bring [16] - 2816:15,

2842:10, 2900:21,2900:22, 2920:24,2939:25, 2944:3, 2944:16,2945:25, 2946:14,2946:25, 2947:18, 2961:4,2961:5, 2963:7, 2970:10

Bring [1] - 2946:1bringing [3] - 2873:21,

2906:14, 2933:6brings [1] - 2881:15British [5] - 2808:24, 2832:9,

2937:9, 2943:19, 2972:4broad [1] - 2821:15broke [1] - 2970:8brother [2] - 2933:7, 2933:8brothers [1] - 2924:23brought [10] - 2815:10,

2898:16, 2905:12, 2906:8,2917:16, 2932:24, 2936:2,2947:12, 2948:7

brush [1] - 2860:2buckets [4] - 2963:15,

2963:16, 2963:18Buffalo [4] - 2815:8, 2815:9,

2906:8bug [3] - 2952:13, 2952:18,

2960:19build [4] - 2871:23, 2873:8,

2879:7, 2947:23building [11] - 2828:2,

2840:1, 2841:16, 2842:9,2843:6, 2877:20, 2877:22,2879:25, 2938:23, 2966:3

buildings [2] - 2841:13,2951:8

built [4] - 2840:2, 2843:10,2891:11, 2957:1

bulldozer [1] - 2944:3bullets [1] - 2924:20bullshit [2] - 2944:14,

2947:20bum [1] - 2967:11bumpers [1] - 2963:23bunch [2] - 2958:16, 2962:16bundle [1] - 2906:14burial [4] - 2864:17, 2866:4,

2866:14, 2867:14buried [1] - 2887:21Buried [1] - 2963:20burns [1] - 2814:19burnt [1] - 2867:16bury [3] - 2954:20, 2963:24,

2963:25business [2] - 2823:2,

2945:6businesses [5] - 2832:15,

2853:22, 2854:2, 2854:8,2945:5

butchered [1] - 2954:21butt [1] - 2966:5Butte [2] - 2903:14, 2905:11buy [16] - 2863:18, 2917:12,

2924:19, 2928:6, 2932:14,2937:7, 2945:7, 2946:8,2946:9, 2951:11, 2951:13,2953:7, 2954:14, 2959:14,2961:7

buying [4] - 2829:7, 2909:11,2932:11, 2951:23

BY [52] - 2811:4, 2811:5,2811:6, 2811:7, 2811:8,2811:9, 2811:10, 2811:13,2811:14, 2811:15,2811:16, 2811:17,2811:18, 2811:19,2811:20, 2811:22,2811:23, 2811:24, 2812:1,2812:2, 2812:3, 2812:4,2812:5, 2812:6, 2812:7,2812:8, 2813:14, 2816:2,2820:21, 2857:21,2860:10, 2864:8, 2867:25,2874:24, 2880:24,2880:25, 2884:18, 2898:8,2901:20, 2913:7, 2914:13,2916:8, 2918:14, 2927:14,2929:20, 2931:9, 2931:25,2935:16, 2950:16,2967:23, 2968:13, 2969:15

by-product [1] - 2838:1bypass [2] - 2878:23,

2879:10Cabinet [1] - 2818:9calf [1] - 2953:13calves [1] - 2954:1camp [2] - 2877:15, 2877:17

Canada [9] - 2818:1,2827:23, 2828:22,2828:25, 2871:11,2871:14, 2892:17, 2972:5

Canada's [1] - 2827:23CANADIAN [3] - 2808:3,

2808:8, 2809:6Canadian [1] - 2817:20Canadians [1] - 2827:20cancer [2] - 2922:24, 2943:1cannot [6] - 2815:17, 2825:5,

2839:20, 2869:25, 2907:8,2966:19

Canyon [2] - 2876:19,2957:11

capability [1] - 2840:22capacity [15] - 2810:2,

2810:3, 2810:5, 2810:6,2810:7, 2810:8, 2810:10,2810:11, 2810:12,2810:13, 2810:14,2810:15, 2810:16,2810:17, 2840:22

Cape [1] - 2916:14capital [1] - 2873:19capture [1] - 2837:20Car [1] - 2908:2carcasses [1] - 2954:19care [11] - 2830:4, 2903:7,

2906:16, 2908:20, 2920:5,2928:10, 2954:9, 2961:6,2964:11, 2965:23, 2967:16

career [3] - 2821:7, 2832:22,2854:12

carefully [3] - 2836:11,2846:8, 2846:17

caretakers [2] - 2908:15,2908:17

Cariboo [7] - 2823:9,2823:15, 2828:20,2828:21, 2830:8, 2830:14,2956:20

Cariboo-Chilcotin [4] -2828:20, 2828:21, 2830:8,2830:14

caring [1] - 2934:15Carolyn [1] - 2809:9carried [1] - 2885:9carrier [1] - 2903:4carry [2] - 2903:13, 2907:6carrying [1] - 2924:25cars [3] - 2952:16, 2963:19case [4] - 2891:25, 2894:8,

2894:10, 2894:23cases [2] - 2819:15, 2878:20cash [1] - 2829:24casinos [1] - 2912:19cattle [24] - 2878:25, 2879:2,

2920:13, 2920:14,2920:15, 2922:19,2922:21, 2928:3, 2928:10,

2928:14, 2928:17,2928:19, 2928:23, 2929:1,2953:22, 2954:10,2954:12, 2954:21, 2955:3,2955:7, 2955:9, 2955:10,2957:13

caught [3] - 2918:7, 2942:22,2953:4

causing [1] - 2959:24CCR [1] - 2810:23CEAA [1] - 2809:6cedar [1] - 2813:24Central [1] - 2828:20centre [1] - 2967:3centres [1] - 2860:25ceremonies [1] - 2890:12ceremony [8] - 2813:3,

2813:11, 2866:8, 2904:5,2914:1, 2914:2, 2970:24,2971:4

CEREMONY [4] - 2811:3,2812:9, 2816:1, 2971:5

certain [8] - 2832:1, 2890:11,2902:11, 2920:13, 2928:7,2940:11, 2945:16

certainly [6] - 2850:9,2859:13, 2861:3, 2872:19,2910:5, 2913:3

Certainly [1] - 2880:23Certificate [1] - 2832:9CERTIFICATION [1] - 2972:1certify [1] - 2972:5chain [5] - 2841:3, 2850:8,

2951:8, 2965:23, 2966:2chained [1] - 2966:13Chair [2] - 2809:3, 2817:1Chairman [9] - 2820:22,

2821:16, 2821:20, 2834:1,2857:22, 2859:4, 2866:24,2880:7, 2935:4

CHAIRMAN [62] - 2811:5,2813:1, 2816:2, 2820:7,2834:12, 2844:1, 2844:7,2844:20, 2844:25, 2856:8,2856:17, 2856:20,2858:23, 2859:15, 2860:5,2864:7, 2865:19, 2866:2,2866:19, 2866:22, 2867:9,2867:20, 2867:23,2871:25, 2873:24,2874:16, 2875:10, 2880:2,2880:14, 2880:23, 2881:4,2882:21, 2884:6, 2884:13,2897:7, 2897:23, 2898:2,2901:7, 2901:14, 2913:1,2914:7, 2916:3, 2916:6,2918:5, 2918:12, 2921:9,2927:15, 2929:18,2931:10, 2931:21, 2932:1,2935:2, 2935:7, 2935:13,2950:7, 2950:12, 2967:20,



4

2968:14, 2968:17,2968:20, 2969:10, 2970:15

challenge [1] - 2896:23chance [3] - 2826:4,

2848:25, 2947:16change [3] - 2820:14,

2826:1, 2841:20changed [3] - 2893:19,

2896:20, 2966:21changes [1] - 2901:14changing [2] - 2894:4,

2896:18channel [1] - 2840:1character [2] - 2850:15,

2854:25characterized [1] - 2849:18charge [2] - 2885:13,

2885:14charged [1] - 2885:5Charles [2] - 2969:18,

2970:6cheap [1] - 2934:13cheaper [2] - 2951:13,

2951:14check [2] - 2816:22, 2898:3Chelsea [1] - 2903:16chemicals [3] - 2937:15,

2952:16, 2955:15chickens [1] - 2958:9Chief [36] - 2810:5, 2813:1,

2815:20, 2816:3, 2816:4,2816:11, 2816:20, 2834:2,2834:12, 2857:20,2857:22, 2857:23,2858:23, 2859:7, 2859:16,2860:5, 2864:7, 2864:18,2865:19, 2866:2, 2866:25,2867:9, 2874:5, 2874:16,2880:17, 2881:2, 2884:8,2884:20, 2884:25, 2897:7,2898:13, 2900:6, 2921:12,2935:23

CHIEF [24] - 2811:7, 2811:9,2811:16, 2813:5, 2834:13,2844:14, 2857:21,2857:22, 2859:19, 2864:8,2864:9, 2864:16, 2865:14,2866:3, 2867:10, 2874:6,2880:19, 2882:16,2884:10, 2884:17,2884:18, 2884:19,2897:22, 2914:16

Chief's [1] - 2955:23Chiefs [4] - 2820:24, 2859:8,

2891:21, 2912:9Chilcotin [12] - 2822:13,

2828:20, 2828:21, 2830:8,2830:14, 2837:11, 2849:2,2875:3, 2875:16, 2876:22,2917:24, 2932:17

Chilcotins [1] - 2891:13

child [2] - 2953:16, 2956:21children [10] - 2830:18,

2870:22, 2905:13, 2933:6,2935:21, 2936:4, 2937:16,2938:3, 2949:16

Chilko [4] - 2837:11, 2849:1,2875:16, 2925:19

Chinoopa [1] - 2815:10choice [1] - 2894:16chokecherries [1] - 2969:24chosen [1] - 2912:5Cindy [2] - 2809:8, 2817:6circle [5] - 2813:19, 2813:21,

2837:14, 2837:15circulate [1] - 2859:7cities [1] - 2938:13citizens [1] - 2871:11citizens' [1] - 2912:15city [2] - 2943:17, 2965:9civilly [1] - 2885:13claims [1] - 2824:5clarification [1] - 2862:1Clark [2] - 2809:13, 2821:10classification [1] - 2877:3classifications [1] - 2863:2classified [1] - 2862:2clean [9] - 2840:4, 2848:2,

2909:9, 2923:10, 2956:6,2963:6, 2963:10, 2965:1,2965:2

clear [5] - 2826:6, 2901:10,2902:7, 2925:5, 2942:18

clearcut [2] - 2869:12,2962:11

clearcuts [6] - 2835:3,2838:10, 2860:20,2860:22, 2861:1

cleared [1] - 2843:19clearly [1] - 2858:25climate [1] - 2964:14close [3] - 2920:23, 2970:23,

2971:4closed [3] - 2842:23,

2843:14, 2849:8closer [2] - 2931:18, 2958:7closes [1] - 2830:17closest [2] - 2852:10, 2868:7closure [6] - 2818:6,

2839:10, 2842:21,2842:22, 2849:10, 2850:6

clothes [1] - 2967:15co [1] - 2839:3co-disposal [1] - 2839:3coal [1] - 2936:15coast [3] - 2823:14, 2939:10,

2941:24Coastal [1] - 2908:16coffee [1] - 2959:10Colette [2] - 2809:7, 2817:6collaboration [1] - 2854:17colleague [4] - 2839:18,

2848:9, 2855:20, 2862:12collect [3] - 2840:2, 2954:9,

2967:2collected [1] - 2853:1collecting [1] - 2864:3collective [1] - 2861:9collisions [1] - 2879:16colour [2] - 2908:11, 2908:14colours [7] - 2814:9, 2870:4,

2902:9, 2904:20, 2906:5,2908:10, 2908:13

Columbia [5] - 2808:24,2832:10, 2937:9, 2943:19,2972:4

comfortable [1] - 2918:13coming [18] - 2813:9,

2841:24, 2877:20,2883:20, 2883:25,2884:11, 2915:20,2922:23, 2935:12,2938:19, 2944:9, 2948:10,2951:24, 2957:11, 2960:2,2960:13, 2964:20, 2970:17

Commandments [1] -2902:11

COMMENT [2] - 2811:7,2857:21

comment [4] - 2858:24,2859:18, 2860:6, 2935:4

comments [2] - 2935:2,2950:8

commitment [4] - 2843:14,2849:4, 2850:23, 2854:16

commitments [4] - 2832:10,2852:18, 2853:9, 2853:11

committed [2] - 2851:25,2853:3

common [1] - 2831:25communication [1] -

2853:13communities [14] - 2818:20,

2819:4, 2821:22, 2823:15,2823:16, 2828:19, 2831:5,2831:6, 2832:4, 2846:25,2859:9, 2863:16, 2873:10,2873:12

community [45] - 2816:5,2816:10, 2816:13,2818:19, 2818:20, 2819:3,2819:5, 2819:22, 2822:3,2823:24, 2825:21,2825:22, 2825:25, 2826:3,2831:9, 2831:11, 2831:19,2832:4, 2833:12, 2844:21,2847:18, 2849:20, 2852:9,2854:23, 2855:10,2858:17, 2860:15, 2863:8,2873:9, 2873:10, 2880:10,2880:13, 2890:16,2927:19, 2927:22,2931:15, 2944:16, 2948:8,

2948:12, 2960:24COMMUNITY [1] - 2808:14Community [1] - 2808:23companies [3] - 2892:3,

2894:21, 2937:1company [5] - 2821:2,

2845:12, 2873:8, 2873:19,2927:9

compensate [4] - 2850:2,2852:4, 2940:24, 2941:10

compensated [3] - 2852:6,2966:11, 2966:25

compensation [4] - 2850:1,2852:1, 2951:7, 2965:25

Compensation [1] - 2850:12complete [4] - 2817:11,

2818:5, 2841:6, 2972:10completed [1] - 2840:10completely [1] - 2922:8completion [1] - 2817:22component [2] - 2839:11,

2852:22components [1] - 2848:3compounding [1] - 2847:20concentrate [3] - 2842:16,

2847:24concern [4] - 2847:21,

2891:3, 2957:20, 2960:17concerned [2] - 2882:12,

2890:16concerns [11] - 2817:15,

2819:25, 2821:25,2823:25, 2824:2, 2824:4,2824:20, 2852:8, 2900:18,2935:24, 2948:18

concluded [4] - 2827:16,2848:19, 2851:12, 2852:13

conclusion [3] - 2827:22,2851:24, 2855:20

conclusions [5] - 2818:16,2825:4, 2836:1, 2851:13,2853:7

concrete [1] - 2862:7condition [2] - 2831:22,

2836:5conditional [1] - 2849:7conditions [1] - 2864:4condominiums [1] - 2829:8conduct [3] - 2817:19,

2818:23, 2872:9confidential [1] - 2865:3confirmed [1] - 2877:8confirming [1] - 2849:21confused [1] - 2814:18Congress [1] - 2884:22connected [4] - 2814:20,

2887:15, 2887:24, 2888:11connection [2] - 2887:20,

2888:12Connelly [2] - 2809:3,

2817:1



5

consequence [1] - 2851:23consequences [2] - 2835:24,

2836:2consider [2] - 2853:15,

2878:17considerable [2] - 2878:18,

2878:19consideration [1] - 2827:8consist [1] - 2838:19consistent [1] - 2827:17constituents [1] - 2875:22construction [6] - 2828:4,

2841:23, 2842:21, 2843:1,2856:5, 2872:14

consult [1] - 2872:13consultation [2] - 2872:19,

2887:2consumer [1] - 2829:4contain [6] - 2837:22,

2838:21, 2838:22,2838:24, 2848:22, 2849:8

contained [2] - 2833:24,2837:13

contains [1] - 2832:10contaminate [2] - 2965:18,

2965:19contaminated [7] - 2921:21,

2922:8, 2956:8, 2960:8,2960:11, 2960:18, 2961:13

contaminating [2] - 2923:13,2955:18

context [1] - 2862:10continual [2] - 2878:13,

2878:14continue [8] - 2816:18,

2816:20, 2834:14, 2845:4,2872:21, 2888:18, 2893:5,2895:24

continues [1] - 2923:18continuing [1] - 2876:3contribute [5] - 2828:18,

2831:17, 2831:20,2846:23, 2943:4

contributing [1] - 2862:14control [1] - 2958:1controversy [1] - 2826:13converse [1] - 2878:13Convince [2] - 2949:23,

2949:25convince [1] - 2943:8convinced [1] - 2831:23cook [6] - 2929:15, 2934:4,

2934:19, 2954:3, 2954:23,2955:1

cooked [1] - 2935:9cooks [1] - 2969:25cool [1] - 2962:6copper [5] - 2834:20,

2836:12, 2839:1, 2871:23,2936:14

COPPER [1] - 2808:2

copper-gold [1] - 2834:20copy [2] - 2856:10, 2859:8core [2] - 2836:15, 2848:10cores [1] - 2836:23Corporate [1] - 2821:1Corporation [1] - 2843:6correct [5] - 2820:5, 2820:9,

2931:19, 2963:17, 2972:10correctly [2] - 2819:16,

2859:7corridor [1] - 2843:19cost [3] - 2924:10, 2948:11,

2949:1Costco [1] - 2937:4Cotton [2] - 2919:18,

2933:12cougar [1] - 2959:16cougars [1] - 2959:10council [1] - 2898:10Council [1] - 2885:2COUNCILLOR [3] - 2811:17,

2898:8, 2898:9Councillor [4] - 2810:6,

2898:5, 2901:7, 2926:21counsel [1] - 2821:11Counsel [1] - 2809:13country [10] - 2864:21,

2868:23, 2889:16,2889:17, 2911:7, 2912:16,2920:11, 2955:5, 2961:19,2968:9

couple [9] - 2813:8, 2860:17,2917:20, 2923:15,2930:24, 2934:3, 2940:5,2941:7, 2964:24

courage [1] - 2913:18course [10] - 2820:14,

2825:16, 2860:13, 2863:2,2863:4, 2865:5, 2872:12,2875:18, 2879:20, 2897:14

Court [1] - 2894:8court [6] - 2885:5, 2894:10,

2894:11, 2920:24, 2921:1,2923:21

COURT [1] - 2810:21courts [1] - 2940:21cousins [1] - 2970:2cover [1] - 2842:15covers [2] - 2830:8, 2861:3cow [2] - 2954:10, 2955:4Cow [2] - 2815:10, 2906:8cows [2] - 2968:7, 2968:10coyotes [1] - 2969:1crab [1] - 2969:23crab-apple [1] - 2969:23Craigmont [1] - 2936:15crane [2] - 2960:15, 2960:16cranes [1] - 2960:12crawling [2] - 2908:3,

2911:25Crazy [1] - 2815:8

crazy [2] - 2947:12, 2957:5create [7] - 2828:8, 2839:6,

2850:11, 2850:17,2899:20, 2908:20, 2933:22

created [4] - 2823:10,2839:15, 2841:2, 2850:11

creating [1] - 2840:15creation [3] - 2823:1,

2839:12, 2913:16Creator [15] - 2814:21,

2814:22, 2882:7, 2902:3,2902:8, 2903:19, 2903:21,2907:13, 2908:14,2908:21, 2908:24,2909:24, 2910:21, 2911:1,2913:12

Creator's [1] - 2814:13credit [1] - 2948:12Creek [17] - 2819:2, 2821:19,

2840:17, 2840:18,2841:25, 2843:7, 2843:21,2849:1, 2859:6, 2869:1,2875:17, 2875:19,2876:20, 2911:12,2961:18, 2969:4, 2969:6

creek [3] - 2837:6, 2919:15,2928:1

Creek/Fish [1] - 2837:3creeks [1] - 2969:5cremate [2] - 2867:18,

2954:22cremation [2] - 2866:16,

2867:15criminal [1] - 2885:4criminally [2] - 2885:14cross [1] - 2847:10crossbar [1] - 2843:18crush [1] - 2954:23crushed [1] - 2838:5crying [1] - 2910:6crystal [1] - 2826:6CSR(A [4] - 2810:22,

2810:23, 2972:3, 2972:19cubs [3] - 2959:5, 2959:22,

2959:24cultural [2] - 2852:21,

2853:18culturally [1] - 2855:19culture [12] - 2813:18,

2868:13, 2868:18, 2870:1,2870:14, 2871:1, 2902:2,2902:6, 2906:2, 2906:25,2907:11, 2930:13

curious [4] - 2875:2, 2875:6,2882:21, 2927:11

current [1] - 2855:3cut [2] - 2953:5, 2966:15cutting [1] - 2953:6dad [3] - 2881:2, 2916:12,

2916:14Dakota [3] - 2903:14,

2905:11, 2906:19Dakotas [1] - 2910:2dam [2] - 2838:19, 2838:21damage [6] - 2923:25,

2924:9, 2954:8, 2959:24,2962:18, 2965:13

damaged [4] - 2882:13,2883:7, 2915:12, 2966:24

damaging [2] - 2885:9,2914:20

dams [1] - 2838:22dance [5] - 2903:15,

2904:16, 2905:15,2906:25, 2914:2

dancer [1] - 2903:4data [2] - 2875:19, 2876:12date [1] - 2872:8daughter [5] - 2914:10,

2917:3, 2917:17, 2933:17,2969:13

days [11] - 2813:8, 2818:6,2833:19, 2833:20,2855:21, 2878:22,2897:19, 2903:17,2923:16, 2961:25, 2963:16

dead [4] - 2867:16, 2867:18,2957:7, 2958:13

deaf [1] - 2925:21deal [7] - 2845:18, 2856:24,

2878:16, 2878:20,2959:13, 2959:15

dealing [3] - 2888:9,2888:10, 2888:13

debate [1] - 2826:14decide [3] - 2826:20,

2862:24, 2895:6decided [4] - 2827:6,

2885:14, 2923:11, 2954:22decides [1] - 2862:21decimal [1] - 2848:11decision [7] - 2826:20,

2826:21, 2826:23, 2836:1,2851:12, 2851:17, 2891:22

deep [9] - 2822:5, 2823:25,2836:16, 2925:11,2925:15, 2926:11,2963:24, 2963:25

deer [10] - 2931:1, 2932:13,2934:5, 2934:9, 2937:13,2957:7, 2959:6, 2959:7,2959:11

defend [1] - 2946:12defending [1] - 2885:5degrees [1] - 2863:4delay [1] - 2894:17delaying [1] - 2894:17deliberately [1] - 2948:7delivering [1] - 2827:19demands [1] - 2822:23Deneway [1] - 2857:23Denise [1] - 2929:24



6

denying [1] - 2892:13Department [3] - 2821:8,

2896:6, 2920:17departments [3] - 2818:2,

2818:3, 2818:11Departments [1] - 2817:25depended [1] - 2947:8depleted [1] - 2869:2deposit [1] - 2826:16depositing [1] - 2838:24depth [2] - 2823:7, 2836:23Derrick [1] - 2917:17describe [1] - 2836:9described [1] - 2849:19DESCRIPTION [1] - 2811:2deserve [2] - 2824:9,

2930:16design [4] - 2835:20,

2849:25, 2852:14, 2877:4designed [6] - 2817:13,

2838:22, 2843:13,2850:13, 2877:5, 2877:9

destroy [6] - 2896:10,2896:21, 2916:23,2959:17, 2960:5, 2965:4

destroyed [6] - 2896:13,2917:8, 2925:4, 2950:24,2958:6, 2970:12

destroys [1] - 2930:6detailed [2] - 2821:14,

2827:15details [1] - 2869:5determination [1] - 2891:12determine [1] - 2818:10devastated [1] - 2955:5devastation [1] - 2822:14develop [3] - 2836:6,

2851:25, 2854:18developed [3] - 2833:3,

2878:15, 2878:20Developing [1] - 2826:8development [14] - 2823:2,

2826:4, 2827:25, 2831:4,2831:15, 2832:14,2832:18, 2833:2, 2834:19,2852:25, 2853:19, 2854:1,2854:4, 2854:7

Deyen [1] - 2870:15DFO [5] - 2821:8, 2896:5,

2896:6, 2896:14, 2896:18Diablo [4] - 2810:14,

2935:15, 2935:17, 2950:8DIABLO [4] - 2812:4,

2935:16, 2935:17, 2939:2diagram [1] - 2836:18dialogue [3] - 2831:25,

2832:6, 2872:18dialysis [1] - 2917:13Diana [1] - 2857:12die [4] - 2917:14, 2955:19,

2956:14, 2960:10

diesel [2] - 2962:25, 2963:14difference [3] - 2831:1,

2831:24different [12] - 2814:10,

2826:10, 2859:16, 2863:2,2887:25, 2889:16, 2890:5,2890:6, 2890:24, 2895:11,2945:14, 2948:9

difficult [2] - 2822:19, 2823:6difficulties [2] - 2822:21,

2927:23dig [8] - 2836:20, 2938:7,

2940:6, 2944:1, 2945:1,2945:17, 2949:8, 2969:25

digging [3] - 2837:16,2837:19, 2950:3

digit [1] - 2822:21direct [1] - 2828:7directed [1] - 2872:1direction [5] - 2814:23,

2837:10, 2853:2, 2865:1,2909:20

directions [5] - 2898:3,2909:19, 2910:13, 2911:5

directly [1] - 2830:10dirty [1] - 2942:19discharge [1] - 2849:11discipline [1] - 2824:15disclose [1] - 2865:2discovered [2] - 2940:18,

2947:22discuss [1] - 2862:16discussed [1] - 2852:7discussion [2] - 2833:19,

2867:5discussions [1] - 2833:20disease [1] - 2955:4disposal [1] - 2839:3distance [3] - 2844:20,

2861:4, 2880:9disturb [1] - 2853:6disturbance [1] - 2865:9disturbed [1] - 2898:23divert [1] - 2840:4diverted [1] - 2891:1DNA [2] - 2955:2doctor [1] - 2923:16documentary [1] - 2857:12documentation [1] - 2861:15Dodd [2] - 2935:10, 2935:11Dog [3] - 2841:25, 2843:7,

2843:21dollar [2] - 2940:1, 2961:5dollars [9] - 2829:25, 2833:8,

2871:17, 2899:19,2899:25, 2900:21,2939:19, 2940:25, 2949:2

done [19] - 2836:13, 2842:18,2845:16, 2864:21, 2875:4,2875:25, 2890:11,2892:24, 2909:1, 2913:23,

2915:15, 2921:20,2936:12, 2940:22,2942:11, 2947:11,2948:14, 2953:18, 2962:21

Double [1] - 2822:21Doug [6] - 2810:2, 2813:16,

2868:2, 2901:23, 2916:11,2923:7

DOUG [4] - 2811:4, 2811:10,2813:14, 2867:25

Doug's [1] - 2874:8Douglas [4] - 2810:7,

2874:7, 2901:15, 2901:16DOUGLAS [2] - 2811:18,

2901:20down [64] - 2823:13,

2837:10, 2838:13,2841:21, 2887:11,2887:12, 2888:7, 2891:9,2900:16, 2905:11, 2910:1,2910:23, 2912:8, 2918:9,2919:5, 2919:18, 2920:22,2921:17, 2921:18,2921:19, 2923:1, 2923:4,2923:5, 2923:14, 2925:25,2926:6, 2927:4, 2933:6,2933:12, 2933:17,2933:19, 2936:16,2936:22, 2937:2, 2937:14,2937:23, 2938:2, 2939:9,2939:10, 2939:13,2939:24, 2941:1, 2941:4,2941:6, 2941:22, 2941:23,2943:15, 2946:2, 2946:8,2948:3, 2948:22, 2952:9,2955:6, 2956:12, 2959:17,2963:22, 2964:12, 2965:6,2966:19, 2967:12,2967:13, 2969:7, 2970:8,2972:7

downhill [1] - 2837:5downstream [1] - 2875:17downtown [2] - 2946:8,

2959:2dragging [1] - 2925:2drain [3] - 2839:21, 2840:17,

2924:4drainage [2] - 2837:3, 2849:1draining [2] - 2826:9,

2839:22drains [1] - 2837:5dramatic [2] - 2822:22,

2893:19drawings [1] - 2857:1dream [4] - 2905:8, 2905:10,

2905:19, 2907:18drill [4] - 2836:15, 2836:16,

2836:22, 2848:10drilled [1] - 2836:14drilling [3] - 2836:14,

2836:24, 2875:6

drink [6] - 2846:3, 2910:24,2917:14, 2921:6, 2923:6,2960:9

drinking [5] - 2917:11,2917:15, 2956:5, 2956:6,2959:10

drinks [1] - 2922:19drive [2] - 2916:24, 2963:8driver [1] - 2879:13drives [1] - 2823:11drops [2] - 2934:9, 2939:21drought [5] - 2878:8,

2878:13, 2878:18drug [4] - 2869:8, 2907:16,

2908:8, 2912:1drugs [1] - 2910:25DRUMMING [4] - 2811:3,

2812:9, 2816:1, 2971:5drumming [2] - 2813:11,

2970:23Drummond [1] - 2922:15drums [3] - 2874:9, 2962:24,

2963:14drying [1] - 2891:1duck [1] - 2960:15ducks [1] - 2960:8dumped [1] - 2963:15Dunn [1] - 2809:9During [1] - 2857:24during [18] - 2820:1,

2820:14, 2823:23,2825:12, 2825:14,2829:17, 2834:21, 2840:7,2842:21, 2849:9, 2850:6,2850:9, 2857:17, 2866:14,2876:7, 2879:20, 2897:13,2904:18

dust [2] - 2852:7, 2852:16duty [1] - 2872:13Dyble [1] - 2809:9EA [1] - 2886:8Eagle [2] - 2815:8, 2901:24earned [1] - 2903:12Earth [19] - 2814:9, 2814:19,

2814:25, 2815:14,2868:10, 2868:19,2868:20, 2872:6, 2902:9,2902:19, 2902:23, 2904:1,2904:8, 2904:24, 2908:10,2909:25, 2910:5, 2910:10,2916:19

earthen [1] - 2838:19EAs [1] - 2886:21easily [1] - 2880:21east [2] - 2841:25, 2909:23eat [14] - 2909:8, 2933:24,

2933:25, 2953:17,2954:11, 2954:13,2955:12, 2955:15,2955:21, 2958:13, 2959:7,2962:17, 2969:23



7

eaten [1] - 2953:18eaters [1] - 2954:25eating [5] - 2915:16,

2953:19, 2953:20,2954:10, 2954:13

ecological [1] - 2873:2ecology [1] - 2847:6economic [3] - 2822:20,

2831:18, 2846:21economies [2] - 2846:23,

2862:6economy [3] - 2823:8,

2828:12, 2961:16education [2] - 2830:4,

2873:14effect [4] - 2847:8, 2848:1,

2946:16, 2947:20effects [12] - 2817:12,

2846:12, 2847:5, 2847:16,2847:20, 2848:17,2849:14, 2851:9, 2851:13,2851:21, 2852:19, 2855:18

effort [4] - 2828:16, 2832:7,2859:10, 2859:13

efforts [1] - 2855:2eight [6] - 2876:12, 2921:14,

2951:8, 2958:8, 2963:5,2969:19

either [7] - 2841:20, 2861:4,2889:2, 2899:11, 2906:10,2912:3, 2928:21

Elder [4] - 2810:8, 2914:8,2934:6, 2934:7

ELDER [10] - 2811:20,2914:13, 2914:17,2914:22, 2915:1, 2915:9,2915:13, 2915:17,2915:22, 2916:1

Elders [15] - 2816:4,2816:16, 2820:8, 2820:24,2858:8, 2864:14, 2865:21,2880:20, 2883:13, 2884:8,2926:9, 2926:14, 2926:21,2928:11, 2938:1

elected [1] - 2884:20electronically [1] - 2859:9eleventh [1] - 2886:17eliminate [1] - 2893:22eliminated [1] - 2826:13elsewhere [4] - 2823:12,

2823:13, 2888:17, 2888:18embankment [2] - 2838:20emerging [1] - 2879:21emotional [1] - 2904:21employ [1] - 2940:4employees [1] - 2832:23Employees [1] - 2966:10employment [6] - 2828:17,

2829:3, 2829:18, 2832:17,2854:10, 2854:14

encourage [2] - 2832:13,

2853:25end [17] - 2819:24, 2820:2,

2834:24, 2838:21,2839:12, 2841:1, 2842:8,2843:9, 2867:4, 2886:16,2886:17, 2917:13,2920:13, 2922:22, 2923:7,2928:17, 2953:6

endorsed [1] - 2863:24ends [1] - 2840:3endurance [1] - 2822:18energy [1] - 2845:18enforce [1] - 2879:13enforcing [1] - 2879:13engineering [3] - 2824:13,

2845:9, 2845:17engineers [1] - 2877:5English [2] - 2814:22, 2860:1enhance [1] - 2832:3enjoy [2] - 2883:21, 2912:16enjoyed [1] - 2883:22ensure [3] - 2825:18,

2849:13, 2850:25ensures [1] - 2852:6enterprise [1] - 2828:10entire [4] - 2852:24, 2860:22,

2861:3, 2861:12entry [1] - 2863:4environment [6] - 2845:10,

2845:23, 2846:6, 2846:20,2846:22, 2849:11

Environment [3] - 2817:18,2817:24, 2818:7

ENVIRONMENTAL [3] -2808:3, 2808:8, 2809:6

Environmental [10] - 2817:2,2817:19, 2817:20, 2821:4,2832:8, 2835:9, 2835:18,2843:25, 2845:5, 2886:8

environmental [4] - 2817:12,2825:19, 2827:18, 2845:17

envisions [1] - 2833:1epidemic [1] - 2823:7equipment [2] - 2829:12,

2869:6equivalent [1] - 2851:1escape [1] - 2848:25especially [9] - 2815:16,

2825:20, 2831:6, 2831:24,2896:5, 2935:8, 2957:15,2964:10, 2967:14

Esq [1] - 2809:13essence [2] - 2839:6, 2841:3establish [1] - 2854:24established [1] - 2938:3establishment [1] - 2854:18estimate [2] - 2833:6,

2840:14estimated [2] - 2842:18,

2843:19Etsi [1] - 2870:15

events [1] - 2819:17eventually [3] - 2837:6,

2837:12, 2840:17Eventually [1] - 2840:13everywhere [1] - 2933:13evidence [2] - 2936:25,

2939:2exactly [4] - 2815:23,

2867:14, 2867:15, 2873:1exaggeration [1] - 2847:20examination [4] - 2824:14,

2835:14, 2845:8, 2878:11examine [3] - 2836:16,

2846:11, 2846:18examined [7] - 2836:11,

2845:22, 2847:3, 2847:5,2848:4, 2852:7, 2867:7

examining [1] - 2845:19example [2] - 2857:2,

2910:24excellent [1] - 2874:17excess [1] - 2873:21excessive [1] - 2878:14exchange [1] - 2823:21excuse [1] - 2816:15Executive [1] - 2884:21Exhibit [4] - 2857:9, 2857:11,

2857:13, 2857:15exhibits [1] - 2857:2exist [2] - 2841:10, 2906:18existence [1] - 2867:8existing [2] - 2842:2, 2842:6exists [2] - 2836:12, 2838:15expand [1] - 2855:2expect [3] - 2872:20, 2901:4,

2946:6expectation [1] - 2827:18expecting [1] - 2949:3expense [1] - 2894:22expertise [2] - 2845:14,

2845:19experts [2] - 2835:15,

2845:13explain [4] - 2817:14,

2838:8, 2859:23, 2926:8explained [1] - 2858:20explaining [1] - 2931:14explanation [1] - 2858:11exploration [1] - 2822:10explorations [1] - 2871:18explored [1] - 2878:12exploring [1] - 2875:6explosive [1] - 2922:9explosives [1] - 2944:3express [2] - 2836:2, 2860:1expressed [2] - 2823:24,

2824:3expresses [1] - 2855:10extensive [3] - 2847:12,

2852:23, 2864:20extent [3] - 2835:11, 2847:7,

2867:6extra [2] - 2876:23, 2877:1extract [6] - 2911:23,

2938:12, 2942:6, 2944:4,2949:3, 2965:14

extracted [3] - 2827:17,2839:20, 2936:13

eye [2] - 2838:13, 2928:19eyes [1] - 2846:19faced [1] - 2822:21facilitate [1] - 2859:14facility [2] - 2839:3, 2839:20fact [4] - 2835:21, 2836:10,

2845:7, 2864:1facts [8] - 2824:8, 2824:10,

2824:13, 2825:4, 2946:1,2946:14, 2946:25, 2947:19

fail [1] - 2927:7failed [1] - 2919:4failing [1] - 2865:10fair [2] - 2872:18, 2958:12fairly [1] - 2859:21fall [2] - 2890:7, 2962:13falling [1] - 2952:24familiar [2] - 2821:6, 2936:9families [1] - 2830:18family [8] - 2901:24,

2926:23, 2928:7, 2941:8,2944:5, 2944:6, 2946:5,2956:13

fancy [1] - 2946:9far [14] - 2821:17, 2822:4,

2861:18, 2867:6, 2868:22,2872:20, 2873:21,2875:15, 2894:11, 2896:1,2906:24, 2958:4, 2964:18,2964:19

farm [1] - 2923:24farmer [1] - 2966:4farmer's [2] - 2955:16,

2961:3farmers [3] - 2919:3, 2947:8,

2961:11farming [1] - 2929:13Farwell [2] - 2876:19,

2957:11fast [2] - 2856:13, 2965:14faster [1] - 2953:21fasting [1] - 2866:7father [10] - 2900:14,

2918:20, 2919:17,2919:20, 2919:21,2919:23, 2924:12,2928:12, 2929:23, 2937:20

father's [3] - 2921:22,2935:18, 2956:11

fear [2] - 2822:25, 2823:4fears [1] - 2824:3Feasibility [1] - 2877:5feature [4] - 2839:5, 2839:8,

2839:24, 2842:25



8

features [1] - 2838:7Federal [20] - 2817:18,

2818:17, 2820:23, 2821:9,2826:22, 2827:21, 2830:1,2836:5, 2845:21, 2847:15,2886:8, 2892:1, 2894:3,2919:2, 2920:4, 2921:24,2922:4, 2923:19, 2927:7,2950:21

FEDERAL [2] - 2808:6,2809:2

Federally [1] - 2886:22fee [1] - 2961:5feed [5] - 2928:6, 2945:9,

2954:24, 2968:7, 2968:10feeding [1] - 2966:6feet [4] - 2838:4, 2953:3,

2963:8, 2964:15felt [1] - 2852:16female [3] - 2904:2, 2904:6,

2958:18females [2] - 2959:4,

2959:20fence [7] - 2878:25, 2879:7,

2879:25, 2951:1, 2962:14,2965:22, 2965:24

fences [1] - 2879:10few [17] - 2825:7, 2834:16,

2872:1, 2876:20, 2881:3,2884:11, 2885:11,2893:11, 2897:19,2918:25, 2932:17, 2933:5,2949:24, 2950:10,2952:25, 2969:1

fields [1] - 2919:7fight [6] - 2893:5, 2912:13,

2919:9, 2951:7, 2966:16figure [1] - 2858:5figured [1] - 2927:8figures [1] - 2929:5file [1] - 2860:21fill [2] - 2840:16, 2878:2filled [1] - 2863:7final [1] - 2835:20Finally [1] - 2951:9finally [1] - 2855:14findings [1] - 2853:4fine [4] - 2838:3, 2884:13,

2897:22, 2965:15finish [1] - 2849:14fir [2] - 2962:2, 2962:8fire [5] - 2814:16, 2814:18,

2814:19, 2958:3firm [1] - 2821:11firms [1] - 2845:17First [27] - 2814:4, 2816:6,

2820:24, 2830:21, 2831:2,2831:5, 2832:1, 2832:4,2832:12, 2832:20, 2833:9,2835:15, 2850:24,2851:18, 2853:9, 2853:14,

2853:16, 2853:24,2854:17, 2855:8, 2865:4,2868:5, 2872:13, 2934:1,2937:8, 2944:8, 2944:23

first [25] - 2816:9, 2848:15,2848:21, 2865:8, 2872:5,2873:3, 2874:17, 2874:22,2875:11, 2880:5, 2880:16,2885:23, 2901:17,2904:15, 2916:24,2917:16, 2919:23,2919:24, 2920:3, 2920:7,2924:17, 2947:6, 2947:22,2948:13, 2955:7

fish [45] - 2821:7, 2839:15,2839:17, 2839:23, 2841:7,2841:9, 2846:4, 2846:8,2846:9, 2849:16, 2849:18,2849:22, 2850:3, 2850:16,2850:18, 2851:2, 2851:4,2851:7, 2867:13, 2881:14,2881:15, 2888:17,2888:19, 2888:24,2896:10, 2896:16,2896:21, 2898:21,2899:12, 2900:15,2915:15, 2915:16,2921:22, 2930:10,2932:18, 2933:9, 2934:5,2937:7, 2937:24, 2942:18,2942:22, 2946:9, 2968:7,2969:17

Fish [36] - 2826:8, 2826:9,2826:19, 2826:25, 2837:3,2838:15, 2839:16,2840:17, 2840:18,2848:25, 2850:12,2852:23, 2855:1, 2857:25,2875:17, 2875:19,2877:24, 2885:25,2888:20, 2897:17,2922:13, 2923:22,2930:22, 2931:17,2932:13, 2933:11,2950:20, 2963:21, 2968:4,2969:3, 2969:4, 2969:5,2969:7, 2970:7

fished [1] - 2930:24fisher [1] - 2900:13Fisheries [3] - 2817:25,

2821:8, 2896:7fisherman [1] - 2936:1fishery [3] - 2849:23,

2850:24, 2854:24Fishing [1] - 2942:16fishing [17] - 2822:9,

2849:16, 2850:3, 2850:8,2850:10, 2869:20,2881:20, 2881:25, 2883:9,2883:13, 2930:8, 2932:16,2933:8, 2936:2, 2937:23,2969:19, 2969:21

fit [2] - 2830:22, 2911:17five [6] - 2848:7, 2924:7,

2926:6, 2928:22, 2963:5,2966:21

flexibility [1] - 2878:16flint [1] - 2953:12flood [4] - 2919:8, 2924:3,

2957:25, 2964:18flooding [1] - 2964:19floor [2] - 2856:22, 2857:18flow [4] - 2837:21, 2840:3,

2847:25, 2862:17flown [1] - 2952:12flows [4] - 2837:4, 2837:8,

2837:9, 2936:23fly [4] - 2952:14, 2955:22,

2960:10, 2960:14follow [8] - 2819:21,

2820:18, 2830:19,2833:20, 2896:15,2905:19, 2908:22

followed [2] - 2822:16,2890:14

Following [1] - 2817:22following [3] - 2827:15,

2898:3, 2906:20food [25] - 2822:23, 2881:25,

2903:17, 2910:15, 2932:9,2932:12, 2932:15, 2937:5,2947:8, 2951:21, 2951:22,2952:2, 2954:14, 2955:10,2955:17, 2958:11,2958:12, 2961:7, 2961:10,2964:9, 2964:12, 2965:17,2965:19, 2965:20

foods [5] - 2890:9, 2931:4,2932:13, 2932:25, 2933:25

foods" [1] - 2951:25forbid [1] - 2879:16forced [1] - 2951:11forefather [1] - 2893:8forefront [1] - 2886:16foreground [1] - 2841:21foreign [1] - 2920:11forest [3] - 2835:4, 2838:10,

2960:2forest-harvesting [1] -

2835:4forestry [5] - 2891:7, 2930:5,

2946:23, 2960:20Forestry [1] - 2952:21forests [2] - 2869:2, 2908:18forever [4] - 2921:1, 2923:21,

2938:4, 2940:17forget [2] - 2894:3, 2909:3forgot [1] - 2896:6forgotten [1] - 2943:18form [4] - 2825:3, 2838:5,

2853:21, 2862:14formal [1] - 2819:7formation [3] - 2832:14,

2854:1, 2854:6former [3] - 2835:1, 2835:7Former [1] - 2816:4FORMER [3] - 2844:14,

2882:16, 2914:16forms [1] - 2838:17forth [4] - 2900:14, 2952:12,

2957:5, 2972:8fortitude [1] - 2913:18Fortitude [1] - 2913:20forward [11] - 2813:9,

2815:17, 2833:18,2855:21, 2856:25,2870:21, 2880:17,2898:17, 2901:19, 2918:8,2950:15

Fountain [1] - 2950:4four [23] - 2814:9, 2814:15,

2815:2, 2833:7, 2869:22,2874:25, 2903:16,2903:17, 2904:9, 2904:20,2905:5, 2908:13, 2909:18,2914:3, 2919:19, 2924:7,2928:22, 2946:12, 2959:4,2961:25, 2964:14,2969:18, 2969:20

four-legged [2] - 2869:22,2946:12

four-leggeds [3] - 2815:2,2904:9, 2905:5

frame [1] - 2836:18frames [1] - 2963:23Francis [10] - 2810:5,

2884:19, 2898:13, 2900:6,2918:16, 2924:14,2924:16, 2926:20, 2929:9,2929:23

Fraser [7] - 2837:12,2841:25, 2849:2, 2936:24,2941:21, 2941:23, 2942:10

free [2] - 2871:9, 2965:1fresh [2] - 2951:25, 2965:3friend [1] - 2970:2Friend [2] - 2813:17, 2912:24front [4] - 2959:6, 2959:8,

2959:11fruit [2] - 2952:5, 2952:6frying [1] - 2954:3fulfil [2] - 2832:11, 2853:9full [9] - 2823:7, 2840:13,

2840:14, 2849:10,2853:13, 2868:15,2887:18, 2904:4, 2904:5

full-moon [2] - 2904:4,2904:5

fully [1] - 2872:20function [1] - 2967:7fundamental [1] - 2836:9funding [4] - 2871:13,

2871:22, 2873:16, 2873:23funds [1] - 2862:17



9

funnel [2] - 2921:16, 2923:4fur [1] - 2968:24furs [1] - 2958:2future [12] - 2822:25, 2826:1,

2826:19, 2828:19, 2831:2,2831:14, 2861:1, 2872:8,2872:21, 2883:20,2893:15, 2899:3

Future [1] - 2855:5gain [2] - 2830:24, 2832:7gained [1] - 2827:4game [4] - 2894:17, 2959:4,

2959:16, 2959:21games [1] - 2922:6garbage [6] - 2953:1,

2962:22, 2963:1, 2963:13,2963:25, 2964:8

gardens [1] - 2909:14gather [4] - 2821:21,

2824:10, 2855:23, 2968:18gathered [1] - 2934:5gathering [3] - 2813:22,

2822:9, 2890:9gauge [1] - 2831:9general [2] - 2819:1, 2863:8generally [1] - 2864:23generate [5] - 2827:12,

2828:7, 2829:2, 2830:24,2833:7

generated [3] - 2830:16,2833:2, 2833:4

generating [3] - 2823:12,2839:2, 2839:7

generation [6] - 2883:20,2883:22, 2887:12,2887:13, 2907:23, 2928:10

generations [4] - 2893:15,2899:4, 2907:15, 2949:12

genetic [1] - 2850:14genocide [2] - 2893:10,

2893:20gentleman [1] - 2917:21Gentlemen [1] - 2816:7gentlemen [1] - 2898:7Georgina [3] - 2810:6,

2898:6, 2898:10GEORGINA [3] - 2811:17,

2898:8, 2898:9germ [1] - 2893:11Gibraltar [2] - 2842:3,

2863:11gift [3] - 2816:12, 2882:7,

2910:15Gilford [1] - 2916:13Gill [1] - 2810:23gill [2] - 2938:1, 2968:4GILPIN [4] - 2812:1, 2929:20,

2929:21, 2931:20Gilpin [4] - 2810:12,

2929:19, 2929:21, 2929:24Gina [1] - 2874:9

given [13] - 2818:25,2832:10, 2870:13, 2882:3,2892:24, 2901:22,2902:10, 2902:11,2903:18, 2904:22, 2906:4,2907:12, 2913:11

Given [1] - 2810:8GIVEN [2] - 2811:21,

2914:13Gizikoff [1] - 2809:15goals [1] - 2854:19God [3] - 2870:14, 2882:8,

2908:9God's [2] - 2912:5, 2913:16GOLD [1] - 2808:2Gold [4] - 2822:13, 2900:21,

2947:10gold [21] - 2834:20, 2836:12,

2836:17, 2839:1, 2871:23,2900:25, 2901:2, 2911:23,2936:15, 2938:22, 2939:3,2939:14, 2940:18, 2942:6,2947:11, 2947:23, 2948:6,2950:1

GOLD-COPPER [1] - 2808:2Gourd [1] - 2815:7Government [29] - 2818:18,

2826:21, 2826:22,2827:15, 2827:21, 2830:1,2830:2, 2832:24, 2833:10,2835:25, 2836:4, 2836:6,2845:22, 2853:3, 2853:8,2861:17, 2861:25,2862:12, 2862:15,2862:23, 2865:7, 2919:2,2920:4, 2921:24, 2922:4,2923:19, 2927:7, 2929:4,2956:16

government [17] - 2835:16,2862:21, 2871:10,2871:23, 2872:11,2872:12, 2873:23,2881:18, 2908:16,2912:10, 2912:14,2940:24, 2944:17,2948:16, 2949:17,2951:17, 2956:3

Governments [1] - 2896:17governments [12] - 2824:11,

2829:21, 2829:22,2832:13, 2853:25,2886:23, 2887:4, 2891:15,2892:3, 2892:9, 2894:14,2895:24

governments' [1] - 2886:4grabbing [1] - 2958:24grain [1] - 2958:13grand [1] - 2949:11grand-kids [1] - 2949:11grandchildren [5] - 2935:22,

2938:5, 2938:18, 2949:16

grandfather [1] - 2900:14Grandfather [1] - 2906:13Grandfather" [1] - 2870:16grandfather's [1] - 2956:11grandfathers [1] - 2815:6Grandfathers [1] - 2911:4Grandmother [3] - 2902:20,

2904:2, 2904:8granny [4] - 2928:12,

2928:18, 2969:25graph [1] - 2870:11grass [4] - 2954:10, 2954:11,

2961:13, 2964:2grave [3] - 2864:12, 2864:24,

2865:16grazing [2] - 2847:2, 2928:24Great [4] - 2870:15, 2903:22,

2903:23, 2904:22great [7] - 2845:18, 2916:21,

2928:12, 2928:18, 2937:8,2938:18

great-granny [2] - 2928:12,2928:18

greatest [1] - 2825:9greed [1] - 2940:14green [1] - 2944:19grew [2] - 2930:1, 2947:8Grey [1] - 2916:13grocery [1] - 2931:4ground [17] - 2827:11,

2835:13, 2836:11,2836:15, 2836:20,2837:17, 2848:16,2849:15, 2861:13,2871:19, 2889:6, 2952:22,2952:23, 2952:24, 2964:5,2965:18, 2965:20

groundwater [1] - 2878:11group [1] - 2906:19grouse [2] - 2957:22,

2957:23grow [3] - 2835:3, 2835:7,

2907:23growing [3] - 2934:22,

2953:25, 2955:17grows [1] - 2936:18GST [1] - 2927:8guarantees [1] - 2825:7guards [1] - 2957:14Guess [1] - 2947:3guess [29] - 2824:16, 2845:2,

2858:24, 2868:3, 2876:18,2878:3, 2878:22, 2885:4,2885:23, 2885:25, 2886:4,2887:6, 2889:12, 2889:14,2893:4, 2894:10, 2895:21,2898:7, 2901:15, 2902:13,2918:8, 2925:7, 2926:18,2931:23, 2936:1, 2946:6,2946:16, 2969:10, 2969:12

Guichon [1] - 2816:4

guidelines [1] - 2849:13gun [1] - 2924:19gun's [1] - 2924:24guts [1] - 2954:20guy [4] - 2948:3, 2949:10,

2951:16, 2957:17guys [18] - 2834:8, 2881:3,

2899:14, 2915:6, 2929:13,2932:19, 2933:24,2934:16, 2944:9, 2954:8,2957:2, 2961:4, 2962:21,2963:9, 2964:8, 2965:5,2965:13, 2965:25

Gwet'in [16] - 2815:20,2815:22, 2819:4, 2868:8,2894:9, 2898:24, 2901:25,2916:16, 2916:23,2916:25, 2917:2, 2918:2,2923:23, 2933:16, 2970:13

habitat [7] - 2840:23, 2846:9,2846:19, 2849:17, 2851:4,2851:5, 2937:12

habitats [1] - 2851:14Haines [1] - 2857:12half [8] - 2925:14, 2925:25,

2926:11, 2953:24,2964:15, 2967:25, 2968:3

Hall [1] - 2808:23halls [1] - 2912:19Hanceville [1] - 2842:4hand [3] - 2871:16, 2941:16,

2967:11handed [1] - 2956:12handful [3] - 2939:7, 2940:4,

2940:5handicapped [1] - 2956:21handle [2] - 2877:1, 2928:2handout [1] - 2941:17happiness [1] - 2871:2happy [2] - 2861:22, 2889:23hard [9] - 2826:10, 2892:10,

2895:1, 2906:12, 2959:22,2961:11, 2966:1, 2967:6,2967:11

Hard [1] - 2967:11harder [2] - 2891:2, 2908:6hardest [1] - 2926:24hardly [1] - 2952:15hardship [1] - 2822:19harm [1] - 2852:5harms [1] - 2930:6harsh [1] - 2900:5harvest [3] - 2823:11,

2841:9, 2851:2harvesting [3] - 2835:4,

2838:11, 2962:5hauled [1] - 2871:5hauling [5] - 2847:24,

2868:22, 2911:9, 2911:12,2911:20

hay [6] - 2919:7, 2919:16,



10

2924:2, 2959:13, 2959:14haying [1] - 2822:10head [2] - 2964:22, 2966:13headache [1] - 2957:18headline [1] - 2961:2heads [1] - 2928:4healing [1] - 2822:15health [5] - 2830:4, 2831:18,

2846:24, 2847:6, 2871:1Health [1] - 2871:14healthier [1] - 2960:23healthy [1] - 2921:6hear [15] - 2821:25, 2855:22,

2857:24, 2870:2, 2870:3,2870:4, 2872:25, 2897:13,2897:18, 2900:5, 2910:2,2910:3, 2910:4, 2946:6,2946:21

heard [20] - 2822:4, 2822:5,2822:7, 2822:12, 2822:17,2822:19, 2823:23, 2875:7,2887:6, 2887:14, 2889:3,2893:11, 2897:16,2898:12, 2899:11,2918:23, 2925:20,2928:16, 2929:9, 2944:24

hearing [4] - 2817:9, 2819:7,2825:20, 2833:15

HEARING [2] - 2808:6,2808:13

hearing's [1] - 2817:13hearings [9] - 2816:7,

2816:10, 2817:23, 2818:6,2819:3, 2820:2, 2821:17,2821:20, 2857:17

hears [1] - 2908:24heart [1] - 2814:24heartfelt [1] - 2823:25hearts [2] - 2900:3, 2900:4heaven [1] - 2879:16heavy [1] - 2924:24Held [1] - 2808:22held [3] - 2819:1, 2819:3,

2849:4help [8] - 2814:3, 2817:11,

2859:10, 2861:21,2881:18, 2906:13, 2933:3,2953:17

helped [1] - 2895:9helpful [3] - 2818:14, 2844:7,

2856:10helping [2] - 2889:24helps [1] - 2863:19hereby [1] - 2972:5Hereditary [2] - 2881:2,

2884:23herein [1] - 2972:8hereunto [1] - 2972:13heritage [3] - 2847:11,

2852:22, 2853:18Hi [1] - 2932:3

hide [3] - 2824:21, 2934:9hides [4] - 2934:8, 2934:11,

2934:14, 2954:20high [3] - 2875:21, 2929:6,

2936:22higher [1] - 2876:1highest [2] - 2827:18,

2940:21Highland [1] - 2940:9highlight [3] - 2835:11,

2835:24, 2839:25Highway [1] - 2842:4highway [2] - 2918:21,

2957:8Highways [1] - 2877:7hike [1] - 2930:21Hills [1] - 2940:16Hink [1] - 2857:15hire [1] - 2966:16hired [4] - 2858:2, 2858:6,

2859:22, 2933:1hiring [1] - 2855:8history [5] - 2822:12,

2827:24, 2870:18,2870:20, 2892:5

hmm [1] - 2969:8hold [3] - 2823:5, 2824:4,

2898:2holder [1] - 2867:2holding [1] - 2816:7holds [1] - 2832:2hole [14] - 2836:19, 2837:16,

2837:19, 2837:21,2838:14, 2900:2, 2900:3,2926:9, 2926:10, 2927:11,2938:8, 2940:6, 2945:17,2949:3

hollered [1] - 2929:6hollering [1] - 2911:15home [1] - 2863:18homes [2] - 2829:7, 2829:8homework [2] - 2865:17,

2947:25honest [2] - 2819:8, 2913:17honestly [1] - 2819:9honesty [1] - 2929:10honour [1] - 2904:6honoured [1] - 2940:23hope [4] - 2818:14, 2823:3,

2872:24, 2939:25hopefully [2] - 2833:20,

2860:1hoping [1] - 2929:14horse [1] - 2962:13horses [4] - 2878:25, 2879:3,

2928:11, 2928:17Hospital [1] - 2916:17hotel [1] - 2816:14hotels [1] - 2945:8hour [1] - 2886:18House [2] - 2819:2, 2821:18

house [4] - 2839:15,2930:19, 2941:4, 2942:23

huge [1] - 2936:21human [6] - 2814:5, 2831:21,

2847:5, 2904:24, 2905:24,2909:2

human" [1] - 2903:24humans [1] - 2904:12humble [2] - 2906:11,

2913:17humour [1] - 2882:24hundred [4] - 2833:7,

2940:5, 2961:5hungry [1] - 2958:24hunt [7] - 2867:13, 2888:23,

2930:9, 2930:20, 2933:9,2937:17, 2937:23

hunted [1] - 2930:25hunter [2] - 2924:23, 2936:1hunting [11] - 2822:9,

2883:9, 2900:11, 2924:19,2930:7, 2931:16, 2936:2,2962:13, 2968:5, 2970:7,2970:10

hurt [11] - 2951:6, 2955:20,2959:18, 2965:22, 2966:2,2966:8, 2966:11, 2966:14,2966:23, 2967:1

hurts [2] - 2928:15, 2934:23husband [2] - 2916:10,

2917:9husband's [1] - 2917:16Husky [1] - 2951:24hydro [1] - 2900:10Hydro [2] - 2843:3, 2843:5ice [1] - 2897:4Ida [2] - 2914:10, 2914:12idea [5] - 2863:6, 2905:16,

2905:17, 2945:23identified [12] - 2846:14,

2847:1, 2851:11, 2851:17,2852:25, 2862:12,2864:22, 2864:24,2864:25, 2865:6, 2867:7,2878:10

identify [1] - 2861:21ignore [2] - 2824:19, 2824:20illnesses [1] - 2933:22Illnicki's [1] - 2961:18imagination [1] - 2841:14imagine [1] - 2917:7immediately [1] - 2826:25impact [4] - 2818:19, 2826:8,

2886:14, 2890:21impacted [2] - 2830:10,

2890:25impacts [3] - 2825:9, 2899:5,

2899:17implement [5] - 2850:1,

2852:1, 2855:15, 2856:5,2879:12

importance [3] - 2822:15,2849:22, 2888:8

important [26] - 2818:14,2818:18, 2818:24, 2823:9,2823:17, 2823:21, 2831:3,2833:14, 2849:24,2861:10, 2861:11,2869:11, 2870:17,2870:23, 2870:25,2883:12, 2883:13, 2902:2,2908:11, 2921:3, 2922:17,2926:22, 2927:22,2944:22, 2952:8, 2960:7

importantly [3] - 2837:23,2848:19, 2856:2

imposed [2] - 2836:4,2872:11

impossible [1] - 2908:19improve [2] - 2832:2, 2856:4improved [4] - 2826:3,

2831:13, 2835:19, 2835:21improvement [1] - 2826:5improving [1] - 2831:21IN [1] - 2972:13inadvertently [1] - 2852:20Inc [1] - 2810:22include [2] - 2879:10,

2879:11included [3] - 2861:15,

2864:1, 2879:24includes [4] - 2839:5,

2839:11, 2904:7, 2905:5including [4] - 2818:20,

2823:13, 2832:11, 2833:3incorporate [1] - 2856:3increases [1] - 2822:22independent [1] - 2817:17INDEX [1] - 2811:1Indian [7] - 2871:14,

2899:17, 2920:17,2940:16, 2941:1, 2941:15,2944:18

Indians [1] - 2939:7indicate [2] - 2857:4, 2872:8indicated [3] - 2839:18,

2855:21, 2873:20industries [1] - 2892:10information [13] - 2817:10,

2821:21, 2823:21,2824:23, 2825:2, 2833:23,2845:8, 2845:9, 2855:23,2856:2, 2861:5, 2864:3,2865:3

infrastructure [1] - 2830:19initiative [3] - 2855:4,

2862:11, 2862:12inject [1] - 2953:12injured [3] - 2964:7, 2967:4,

2967:16input [1] - 2862:25insects [2] - 2955:21,



11

2963:14inside [6] - 2814:11,

2814:19, 2904:19,2904:25, 2905:4, 2955:2

instead [1] - 2912:12instruct [1] - 2865:8instructed [1] - 2865:2intact [1] - 2850:16intend [1] - 2818:5intended [1] - 2833:9intends [1] - 2832:11intensive [1] - 2864:20intention [2] - 2841:5,

2867:1interest [3] - 2826:12,

2834:4, 2855:11INTERESTED [1] - 2810:1interested [3] - 2825:20,

2833:15, 2927:18Interested [1] - 2818:15interests [2] - 2821:25,

2824:20interfered [1] - 2847:10Interior [1] - 2828:20international [1] - 2895:13interpret [2] - 2820:8,

2865:20interpretation [5] - 2820:11,

2844:3, 2856:9, 2856:21,2858:6

interpreted [1] - 2865:22interpreter [1] - 2820:3introduce [5] - 2820:19,

2834:17, 2834:18, 2835:8,2877:10

introducing [1] - 2816:24introductory [1] - 2813:4invested [1] - 2845:18investigation [1] - 2867:3investment [4] - 2827:22,

2829:6, 2829:11, 2829:12invite [2] - 2819:25, 2867:5involve [1] - 2828:3involved [7] - 2852:22,

2863:3, 2884:24, 2886:4,2895:7, 2921:12, 2949:4

involvement [1] - 2818:13involves [2] - 2841:23,

2842:25irrigating [1] - 2919:16IRVING [37] - 2834:1,

2834:10, 2834:14, 2844:9,2844:23, 2845:4, 2856:14,2859:4, 2860:24, 2861:14,2861:20, 2862:3, 2862:9,2862:23, 2863:25,2864:18, 2866:24, 2872:3,2873:18, 2875:13, 2876:3,2876:11, 2876:14, 2877:2,2877:17, 2878:9, 2879:9,2880:7, 2913:8, 2913:19,

2914:6, 2925:13, 2925:22,2926:2, 2926:7, 2926:10,2935:4

Irving [8] - 2809:14, 2821:3,2833:22, 2844:2, 2856:8,2859:2, 2866:23, 2873:24

Isabel [2] - 2935:10, 2935:11island [3] - 2866:6, 2866:10,

2922:14Island [1] - 2916:13Isnardy [10] - 2810:3,

2810:4, 2810:9, 2810:16,2881:2, 2884:7, 2897:17,2950:14, 2967:22, 2967:24

ISNARDY [74] - 2811:14,2811:15, 2811:21, 2812:6,2820:6, 2834:6, 2834:11,2844:5, 2844:10, 2844:13,2844:15, 2844:17, 2845:2,2856:12, 2856:16,2856:18, 2865:24,2866:20, 2867:21,2880:24, 2880:25, 2881:1,2881:5, 2881:6, 2881:8,2881:9, 2881:12, 2881:13,2881:16, 2881:17,2881:21, 2881:22, 2882:1,2882:2, 2882:9, 2882:10,2882:14, 2882:15,2882:17, 2882:19,2882:22, 2882:23, 2883:2,2883:3, 2883:4, 2883:5,2883:10, 2883:11,2883:15, 2883:16,2883:23, 2883:24, 2884:3,2884:4, 2901:13, 2914:14,2914:15, 2914:18,2914:23, 2915:2, 2915:5,2915:10, 2915:14,2915:18, 2915:23, 2916:2,2916:5, 2967:23, 2967:24,2968:16, 2968:19,2968:25, 2969:5, 2969:9

issue [6] - 2818:4, 2818:11,2864:5, 2879:21, 2888:10,2888:13

issued [1] - 2845:21issues [4] - 2820:1, 2848:13,

2861:8, 2892:20itself [7] - 2833:25, 2843:11,

2852:12, 2877:21,2885:24, 2898:17, 2899:10

Ivor [4] - 2857:23, 2864:18,2866:25, 2868:14

jail [1] - 2885:12Jamault [1] - 2809:10Jaron [1] - 2809:9JIM [2] - 2812:5, 2950:16Jim [3] - 2810:15, 2950:13,

2950:17job [10] - 2822:25, 2823:1,

2824:10, 2824:12,

2858:19, 2873:13,2926:24, 2927:3, 2963:7,2966:24

jobs [16] - 2822:22, 2828:8,2828:9, 2863:2, 2863:3,2863:7, 2869:3, 2871:4,2873:6, 2899:23, 2899:24,2911:7, 2919:1, 2927:1,2927:19, 2927:22

Jobs [2] - 2871:1, 2899:19Johnny [31] - 2810:2,

2810:6, 2810:7, 2810:10,2810:13, 2810:17,2813:16, 2868:2, 2871:25,2872:3, 2898:6, 2898:10,2901:7, 2901:11, 2901:15,2901:16, 2901:18, 2913:4,2913:9, 2916:7, 2916:9,2916:11, 2917:1, 2917:17,2918:5, 2923:7, 2931:24,2932:3, 2969:11, 2969:14

JOHNNY [25] - 2811:4,2811:10, 2811:17,2811:18, 2811:22, 2812:3,2812:8, 2813:14, 2813:15,2867:25, 2868:1, 2898:8,2898:9, 2901:20, 2901:21,2913:15, 2913:20, 2916:8,2916:9, 2931:25, 2932:3,2935:6, 2969:13, 2969:15,2969:16

join [1] - 2837:6joins [1] - 2837:11Jones [1] - 2809:15Joseph [2] - 2809:7, 2817:6JOSEPHINE [18] - 2811:14,

2880:24, 2881:5, 2881:8,2881:12, 2881:16,2881:21, 2882:1, 2882:9,2882:14, 2882:17,2882:22, 2883:2, 2883:4,2883:10, 2883:15,2883:23, 2884:3

Josephine [2] - 2810:3,2881:1

Joyce [1] - 2916:13Jubilee [1] - 2916:17judge [4] - 2825:3, 2885:19,

2924:21judgment [1] - 2895:1judicial [1] - 2819:7jump [1] - 2929:6Junior [1] - 2917:3jurisdiction [2] - 2891:25,

2892:1Katherine [1] - 2809:15keep [18] - 2814:15, 2826:12,

2841:18, 2850:15, 2882:5,2892:7, 2893:16, 2894:4,2897:1, 2906:25, 2912:18,2919:22, 2928:19,

2952:16, 2960:22,2960:24, 2965:2

keeping [3] - 2815:4,2819:10, 2857:16

keeps [1] - 2927:4Keith [3] - 2809:13, 2821:10kidding [3] - 2906:7, 2906:9,

2911:2kidney [1] - 2917:13kids [14] - 2883:20, 2899:4,

2900:15, 2900:24, 2933:8,2933:9, 2933:10, 2949:10,2949:11, 2953:18,2953:19, 2970:6, 2970:9

kids' [1] - 2900:4kill [5] - 2893:13, 2947:13,

2952:13, 2952:18, 2960:19killed [2] - 2895:17, 2957:6killing [4] - 2947:16, 2952:3,

2959:5, 2959:7kilometre [4] - 2842:10,

2925:14, 2925:15, 2926:11kilometre-and-a-half [1] -

2925:14kilometres [12] - 2830:9,

2836:15, 2842:1, 2843:20,2848:10, 2848:11,2848:12, 2852:10,2852:11, 2880:12,2919:19, 2921:14

kind [11] - 2885:2, 2919:4,2920:18, 2922:11,2925:21, 2927:1, 2927:11,2937:15, 2962:22, 2963:9,2968:24

kinds [1] - 2840:24kingdom [1] - 2815:5KLASSEN [3] - 2968:23,

2969:2, 2969:8Klassen [2] - 2809:4, 2817:4knock [1] - 2902:12Knocking [1] - 2952:9knowledge [4] - 2853:18,

2871:16, 2873:2, 2873:17knowledgeable [1] - 2867:6known [1] - 2847:17knows [2] - 2903:11, 2908:9Kwicksutaineuk [1] -

2916:12kwil [1] - 2916:11Laceese [15] - 2810:5,

2813:1, 2816:3, 2816:11,2816:20, 2834:2, 2874:5,2874:16, 2880:17, 2884:8,2884:19, 2897:7, 2918:16,2921:12, 2929:23

LACEESE [9] - 2811:16,2813:5, 2874:6, 2880:19,2884:10, 2884:17,2884:18, 2884:19, 2897:22

lack [2] - 2823:1, 2823:3



12

Lack [1] - 2822:22Ladies [2] - 2816:7, 2898:7ladies [1] - 2959:10ladies' [1] - 2959:6lady [2] - 2859:21, 2934:15Laich [1] - 2916:11Laich-kwil-tach [1] - 2916:11lake [30] - 2826:11, 2826:12,

2826:16, 2837:6, 2838:17,2839:7, 2839:12, 2839:14,2839:21, 2839:22,2839:23, 2841:1, 2841:2,2844:13, 2850:10,2866:10, 2869:20,2881:14, 2881:15,2896:10, 2896:13,2896:21, 2921:21,2922:16, 2922:20, 2924:4,2924:5, 2938:9, 2960:10,2970:18

Lake [58] - 2816:15, 2818:20,2819:2, 2821:18, 2826:8,2826:9, 2826:19, 2827:1,2837:3, 2837:9, 2838:15,2839:14, 2839:16, 2841:2,2841:7, 2841:21, 2842:4,2842:5, 2842:17, 2852:23,2855:1, 2857:25, 2863:9,2863:13, 2877:24, 2879:4,2885:25, 2888:20,2897:18, 2899:13,2901:24, 2911:14,2917:18, 2922:13,2922:15, 2923:8, 2923:22,2930:22, 2931:17,2932:11, 2932:14,2933:11, 2936:10,2936:20, 2937:11, 2945:4,2950:20, 2951:24,2963:21, 2964:24, 2965:4,2968:4, 2969:3, 2969:4,2969:6, 2969:7, 2970:7

lakes [11] - 2841:4, 2841:9,2847:9, 2850:8, 2890:25,2915:16, 2921:15, 2922:8,2922:12, 2930:2, 2954:12

Lakota [2] - 2903:20, 2905:7land [122] - 2814:16, 2822:6,

2822:7, 2830:8, 2830:14,2834:23, 2835:1, 2835:5,2835:6, 2835:13, 2836:22,2837:5, 2839:9, 2840:11,2846:10, 2846:13, 2850:7,2851:3, 2853:6, 2868:15,2868:17, 2869:10,2869:11, 2869:12,2869:16, 2870:22, 2871:6,2872:23, 2881:6, 2881:10,2882:3, 2882:6, 2882:7,2882:13, 2883:6, 2883:7,2887:7, 2887:15, 2887:18,2888:4, 2888:6, 2888:11,

2889:21, 2889:25, 2890:4,2892:25, 2897:15,2898:20, 2898:21,2898:25, 2899:23,2899:25, 2900:20, 2901:1,2902:16, 2902:18,2905:21, 2905:23, 2906:1,2908:15, 2908:17,2908:20, 2909:8, 2909:20,2910:14, 2911:9, 2911:20,2911:24, 2912:4, 2912:8,2914:21, 2915:11,2915:18, 2916:10,2916:16, 2916:20, 2917:4,2917:8, 2918:1, 2919:12,2919:16, 2920:12,2921:24, 2921:25, 2922:1,2922:2, 2924:11, 2928:6,2930:2, 2930:15, 2932:8,2932:23, 2936:13, 2937:9,2938:7, 2939:11, 2941:11,2941:12, 2943:18,2943:24, 2944:1, 2944:8,2947:5, 2947:9, 2947:23,2950:21, 2951:12,2951:13, 2951:19, 2953:3,2958:5, 2958:7, 2958:11,2961:14, 2961:15,2961:21, 2961:22,2962:19, 2963:7

landed [1] - 2889:12lands [4] - 2827:2, 2885:10,

2888:1, 2929:3landscape [11] - 2826:25,

2834:23, 2835:6, 2836:25,2840:7, 2840:22, 2843:15,2845:10, 2847:19,2848:20, 2860:19

Lang [1] - 2821:11language [42] - 2834:11,

2834:13, 2858:3, 2864:15,2870:16, 2874:12, 2881:5,2881:8, 2881:12, 2881:16,2881:21, 2882:1, 2882:9,2882:14, 2882:15,2882:16, 2882:17,2882:22, 2883:2, 2883:3,2883:4, 2883:10, 2883:15,2883:23, 2884:3, 2889:18,2893:17, 2912:25,2914:15, 2914:16,2914:17, 2914:18,2914:22, 2915:1, 2915:9,2915:13, 2915:17,2915:22, 2916:1, 2916:5,2934:23, 2970:14

large [1] - 2876:24Last [1] - 2964:15last [19] - 2818:2, 2863:20,

2876:9, 2876:18, 2876:20,2878:21, 2904:14,2914:24, 2923:6, 2933:2,

2933:5, 2946:24, 2947:1,2955:5, 2956:20, 2958:3,2965:1, 2969:18, 2970:22

lasted [1] - 2946:23lasting [1] - 2827:19late [2] - 2916:12, 2917:17Laughter) [1] - 2882:18law [5] - 2821:11, 2825:18,

2872:10, 2892:6, 2966:21laws [4] - 2892:18, 2902:5,

2908:20, 2910:18lawyer [2] - 2966:16, 2966:20lawyers [5] - 2885:16,

2885:17, 2885:18, 2885:20lay [1] - 2825:1leaders [1] - 2815:16leads [1] - 2832:7leak [1] - 2941:20leaks [1] - 2942:6learn [7] - 2855:22, 2872:25,

2897:14, 2930:14,2930:18, 2934:21, 2967:10

learned [4] - 2824:20,2876:20, 2878:22, 2910:9

learning [4] - 2849:21,2909:18, 2931:13, 2969:17

lease [2] - 2929:2, 2929:4least [6] - 2851:1, 2854:25,

2859:10, 2890:2, 2927:16,2959:4

leave [10] - 2859:1, 2910:14,2926:18, 2927:10,2938:16, 2938:17,2938:21, 2952:20, 2953:1,2963:10

left [20] - 2816:14, 2817:3,2821:3, 2838:9, 2841:13,2841:17, 2893:4, 2893:8,2907:20, 2919:1, 2935:13,2949:19, 2949:20,2950:13, 2962:3, 2962:19,2962:22, 2964:8, 2964:13

leg [2] - 2967:6, 2967:8legal [5] - 2821:10, 2836:3,

2966:15, 2966:19, 2966:20legally [5] - 2849:5, 2849:12,

2852:4, 2853:8, 2873:7legends [2] - 2888:5, 2888:7legged [2] - 2869:22,

2946:12leggeds [3] - 2815:2, 2904:9,

2905:5legislation [1] - 2847:15legs [1] - 2964:3length [3] - 2836:23,

2940:11, 2945:17lens [1] - 2828:23less [9] - 2835:2, 2835:7,

2920:19, 2925:7, 2926:20,2927:6, 2927:25, 2964:16

letting [1] - 2897:3

level [3] - 2863:4, 2872:11,2964:17

levels [4] - 2835:16, 2875:22,2876:1, 2876:9

lice [1] - 2942:23licence [1] - 2961:8Licensed [1] - 2916:18lie [2] - 2892:4, 2897:2lies [1] - 2891:22life [34] - 2825:8, 2828:15,

2828:25, 2833:6, 2834:21,2837:24, 2840:7, 2849:9,2850:6, 2850:9, 2876:4,2883:18, 2889:11,2889:18, 2893:15, 2902:4,2902:23, 2905:24,2905:25, 2909:7, 2910:3,2930:11, 2933:5, 2936:3,2936:7, 2939:17, 2942:16,2946:4, 2950:23, 2952:8,2966:9, 2967:25, 2968:3

light [4] - 2842:20, 2852:8,2852:16, 2944:19

light" [1] - 2903:25lighter [1] - 2953:12likely [2] - 2827:22, 2878:17Lillooet [1] - 2939:10LIMITED [2] - 2811:6,

2820:21Limited [2] - 2809:13, 2816:8limits [2] - 2825:18, 2879:14line [29] - 2829:24, 2836:23,

2837:2, 2839:25, 2841:15,2841:17, 2841:24, 2843:1,2843:4, 2843:10, 2843:12,2843:16, 2843:17,2844:21, 2846:16,2847:14, 2860:25, 2861:5,2871:12, 2877:21, 2880:9,2880:12, 2890:15,2897:16, 2928:25,2932:22, 2933:21, 2946:4,2970:4

lines [3] - 2836:22, 2843:18,2933:23

Link [1] - 2854:15list [5] - 2820:12, 2845:16,

2853:10, 2897:24, 2950:13listen [3] - 2823:19, 2913:3,

2962:1listened [2] - 2942:16,

2948:3listening [7] - 2897:6,

2912:23, 2917:21, 2932:7,2934:25, 2948:17, 2948:18

listing [1] - 2853:11Livain [1] - 2809:8live [58] - 2815:2, 2821:22,

2822:3, 2830:17, 2830:18,2830:19, 2833:13, 2846:7,2863:13, 2863:14,



13

2863:15, 2863:19, 2868:7,2869:23, 2881:9, 2881:20,2883:8, 2893:16, 2893:18,2896:10, 2896:16,2898:20, 2898:22,2899:23, 2900:15,2900:19, 2902:8, 2902:24,2904:10, 2906:10, 2915:4,2932:23, 2937:9, 2938:6,2938:17, 2941:5, 2943:16,2943:17, 2950:18,2950:20, 2951:1, 2951:2,2951:11, 2951:17,2951:19, 2953:2, 2955:13,2955:24, 2956:2, 2957:21,2957:22, 2957:23,2960:10, 2960:12,2961:14, 2964:25

lived [6] - 2933:4, 2951:1,2951:4, 2958:8, 2965:21,2967:25

lives [3] - 2814:2, 2932:8,2933:7

living [12] - 2815:14,2852:10, 2881:23, 2882:6,2892:4, 2897:1, 2904:24,2915:11, 2956:9, 2956:21,2956:22, 2959:5

load [3] - 2842:3, 2842:17,2959:15

load-out [2] - 2842:3,2842:17

loader [1] - 2959:16lobster [1] - 2946:10local [17] - 2823:8, 2828:11,

2833:9, 2862:6, 2863:17,2863:18, 2873:10, 2919:9,2919:17, 2920:22,2922:18, 2928:24, 2929:2,2929:5, 2950:18, 2961:3

locally [4] - 2827:12,2832:15, 2854:2, 2854:8

locally-owned [1] - 2854:8locals [2] - 2957:4, 2957:19location [4] - 2819:5,

2839:18, 2839:19, 2864:25lodge [5] - 2904:5, 2905:17,

2907:4, 2913:24, 2913:25lodges [1] - 2969:3log [1] - 2963:18Logan [3] - 2936:10,

2936:20, 2937:11loggers [2] - 2911:15, 2925:1logging [12] - 2842:6,

2868:25, 2869:6, 2890:20,2891:6, 2911:11, 2957:4,2957:8, 2960:20, 2961:17,2961:20, 2963:1

logs [4] - 2868:22, 2911:20,2925:2, 2962:16

long-term [2] - 2899:22,

2946:15look [18] - 2813:18, 2840:10,

2841:18, 2843:5, 2843:17,2855:21, 2856:3, 2867:11,2889:22, 2899:3, 2909:4,2921:4, 2923:3, 2933:20,2934:18, 2940:15,2953:11, 2961:1

Look [3] - 2941:5, 2947:22,2949:10

looked [19] - 2845:23,2845:24, 2846:1, 2846:6,2846:8, 2846:10, 2846:17,2846:21, 2846:22, 2847:7,2847:11, 2847:16,2847:22, 2848:16,2849:16, 2851:8, 2851:10,2930:4

Looking [2] - 2828:23,2838:12

looking [3] - 2833:18,2890:17, 2920:2

looks [7] - 2819:6, 2843:8,2843:16, 2861:13, 2930:4,2942:22, 2942:25

Loretta [1] - 2815:20lose [4] - 2965:12, 2967:6,

2967:9loss [5] - 2826:17, 2850:2,

2850:5, 2852:5losses [1] - 2822:25lost [3] - 2893:1, 2927:9,

2928:14loud [1] - 2929:6love [1] - 2822:5lovely [1] - 2935:5loving [1] - 2934:15low [2] - 2871:10, 2912:15Lower [2] - 2939:12, 2943:15lower [1] - 2925:24Lucille [1] - 2809:10Lulua [2] - 2857:11, 2901:23lunch [8] - 2874:2, 2874:3,

2874:4, 2874:18, 2880:8,2929:14, 2932:24, 2935:5

lynx [1] - 2968:25M'mm [1] - 2969:8M'mm-hmm [1] - 2969:8machinery [2] - 2829:11,

2938:8mad [2] - 2919:20, 2955:4magnitude [1] - 2862:13main [5] - 2838:20, 2891:5,

2943:3, 2957:20, 2960:17Mainland [3] - 2810:22,

2939:12, 2943:15maintain [4] - 2839:6,

2850:14, 2853:12, 2957:2major [1] - 2891:17majority [6] - 2838:4,

2863:14, 2863:16,

2891:23, 2891:24, 2898:15maker [1] - 2934:20male [3] - 2958:20, 2958:21malfunctions [1] - 2847:23Man [13] - 2870:7, 2870:8,

2902:10, 2902:16,2903:10, 2903:11,2908:15, 2932:12,2932:15, 2965:23

man [13] - 2814:9, 2870:4,2902:9, 2903:5, 2904:20,2905:9, 2905:18, 2906:5,2908:13, 2908:14,2936:20, 2938:9, 2959:16

Man's [3] - 2901:22, 2951:1,2951:4

man-made [2] - 2936:20,2938:9

manage [3] - 2837:23,2848:22, 2852:18

management [2] - 2855:16,2863:22

Management [1] - 2878:15manager [1] - 2885:2Manager [1] - 2821:3managing [1] - 2853:4manner [4] - 2818:23,

2827:17, 2852:5, 2879:22map [9] - 2844:18, 2860:21,

2860:24, 2877:15,2877:18, 2880:10,2922:15, 2922:16, 2925:9

mapped [2] - 2853:1,2864:25

maps [6] - 2860:18, 2860:21,2861:14, 2861:16,2861:20, 2890:18

Marilyn [1] - 2815:20market [5] - 2922:21,

2939:18, 2955:16, 2958:2,2961:3

married [4] - 2915:24,2916:10, 2918:3, 2935:20

marrow [1] - 2955:2mass [1] - 2902:15Master's [1] - 2863:5material [4] - 2838:4,

2838:23, 2839:7, 2857:17math [2] - 2848:8, 2852:11matter [8] - 2818:18,

2856:23, 2905:1, 2905:2,2905:3, 2924:22, 2927:3,2929:6

Mayor [1] - 2956:19McCallister [1] - 2842:17McDonald's [1] - 2966:4McKeage [1] - 2809:10McKenzie [1] - 2959:8McLeese [2] - 2842:3,

2842:17meadow [2] - 2924:1, 2924:2

meadows [1] - 2919:8mean [7] - 2826:24, 2828:24,

2905:10, 2906:23,2955:19, 2965:12, 2967:5

means [11] - 2813:17,2815:22, 2815:23, 2826:9,2828:1, 2848:5, 2858:7,2870:16, 2903:22, 2917:4

measurable [1] - 2854:19measure [3] - 2836:17,

2846:2, 2880:11measured [1] - 2846:10measures [9] - 2831:8,

2852:14, 2852:19,2855:16, 2863:22,2863:23, 2865:5, 2879:12,2879:15

meat [14] - 2922:21, 2929:15,2930:9, 2934:5, 2937:7,2943:1, 2946:8, 2953:7,2953:8, 2953:19, 2953:20,2953:25, 2954:25, 2964:10

meat-eaters [1] - 2954:25mechanisms [1] - 2822:24medical [1] - 2922:23medically [1] - 2952:12medicinal [1] - 2852:2medicine [20] - 2814:8,

2814:11, 2814:12,2814:13, 2814:18, 2870:5,2870:9, 2870:10, 2870:12,2903:5, 2904:19, 2904:25,2905:4, 2905:9, 2905:18,2908:12, 2910:1, 2910:9,2946:13

meet [3] - 2829:17, 2849:12,2850:13

meeting [4] - 2813:3,2813:20, 2859:6, 2865:14

meetings [6] - 2816:13,2819:3, 2819:5, 2823:24,2849:20, 2900:7

member [5] - 2860:12,2860:13, 2884:21,2898:10, 2918:18

Member [3] - 2809:4, 2809:4,2884:22

Members [8] - 2816:4,2816:5, 2816:8, 2817:5,2820:23, 2820:24, 2834:2,2921:5

members [5] - 2858:12,2866:13, 2885:11,2897:11, 2924:15

memories [1] - 2883:1memory [1] - 2859:6men [2] - 2908:10, 2947:12mental [1] - 2904:21mention [1] - 2902:1mentioned [11] - 2820:18,

2821:21, 2852:21,



14

2869:18, 2877:25, 2878:4,2904:18, 2913:10,2925:18, 2927:18, 2927:20

mentioning [1] - 2924:14merits [1] - 2825:3Merritt [3] - 2936:6, 2936:7,

2936:11mess [1] - 2963:6message [1] - 2894:2messengers [1] - 2891:22metal [2] - 2963:16, 2964:3metals [2] - 2875:22, 2964:4method [1] - 2836:14meto [1] - 2917:19metres [4] - 2843:20,

2925:15, 2925:16, 2926:11Michaud [1] - 2809:8Michener [1] - 2821:12microphones [1] - 2819:12middle [1] - 2891:8midugh [1] - 2931:4midughs [1] - 2934:13might [15] - 2831:13,

2831:15, 2831:17,2833:16, 2833:17,2846:12, 2846:19, 2847:2,2847:20, 2857:19, 2870:1,2884:11, 2933:22,2941:15, 2945:11

migration [1] - 2890:23mile [3] - 2925:10, 2925:25Mile [3] - 2819:2, 2821:18,

2944:25miles [6] - 2925:12, 2926:6,

2926:12, 2928:22Militaries [1] - 2922:5military [5] - 2885:7, 2956:3,

2956:5, 2956:18, 2960:20Military [12] - 2921:13,

2921:17, 2921:20,2921:25, 2922:13, 2923:9,2950:18, 2953:2, 2962:19,2963:2, 2963:17, 2963:19

mill [1] - 2841:12milling [1] - 2840:15million [7] - 2827:23,

2828:13, 2829:10, 2830:9,2830:12, 2833:8, 2873:21

millions [8] - 2868:24,2871:6, 2871:17, 2939:8,2940:25

mills [1] - 2942:14mind [2] - 2814:24, 2913:21minds [1] - 2825:3Mine [11] - 2826:7, 2831:16,

2857:25, 2858:12,2859:25, 2863:11,2864:10, 2868:4, 2898:14,2936:11, 2936:16

mine [81] - 2824:1, 2824:7,2825:13, 2826:5, 2826:11,

2828:2, 2828:6, 2828:15,2829:1, 2830:17, 2833:2,2833:6, 2834:19, 2834:20,2834:21, 2834:22,2837:24, 2838:12, 2840:4,2840:6, 2840:7, 2840:10,2841:23, 2842:1, 2842:11,2842:16, 2842:22,2842:24, 2843:10,2843:13, 2843:21,2846:15, 2847:13, 2849:7,2849:8, 2849:9, 2849:14,2850:6, 2850:7, 2850:9,2852:12, 2852:15,2852:24, 2853:4, 2853:23,2854:4, 2863:3, 2863:13,2863:17, 2864:21,2871:24, 2872:15,2875:23, 2877:10,2883:12, 2899:10, 2900:2,2908:4, 2911:18, 2911:23,2916:22, 2917:8, 2932:6,2936:9, 2936:25, 2937:11,2938:6, 2940:4, 2942:9,2942:14, 2945:6, 2948:13,2950:5, 2954:14, 2956:17,2960:25, 2962:7, 2965:13,2970:3, 2970:9

MINE [1] - 2808:2mine" [1] - 2911:16mineral [6] - 2822:10,

2833:1, 2833:3, 2833:8,2862:10, 2862:15

minerals [7] - 2827:11,2827:16, 2871:18, 2892:8,2894:19, 2946:18, 2949:19

mines [10] - 2933:15,2936:10, 2936:13,2945:15, 2945:22, 2950:2,2953:3, 2960:21, 2962:19,2963:7

Mines [5] - 2809:13, 2816:8,2821:1, 2836:4, 2845:13

MINES [2] - 2811:6, 2820:21minimum [1] - 2966:5mining [18] - 2822:11,

2825:14, 2829:21, 2838:1,2845:12, 2861:25, 2862:2,2868:11, 2873:19,2882:13, 2883:16,2885:25, 2886:1, 2894:21,2914:19, 2915:6, 2915:21,2930:5

Mining [2] - 2855:4, 2946:22mining's [1] - 2947:1minister [1] - 2894:3Minister [3] - 2817:18,

2817:24, 2818:7Ministers [2] - 2817:24,

2818:10Ministry [1] - 2877:7minute [2] - 2838:8, 2933:2

misinformation [1] - 2824:5mislead [1] - 2824:18missed [1] - 2848:11missing [1] - 2856:13mission [1] - 2902:13mitigate [1] - 2855:17mitigating [1] - 2853:3mitigation [3] - 2852:13,

2852:19, 2865:5mitigations [1] - 2879:12modern [1] - 2966:24Molly [1] - 2857:14mom [8] - 2834:7, 2834:8,

2881:1, 2916:12, 2916:13,2959:23, 2968:1, 2969:20

moment [4] - 2860:17,2897:13, 2898:4, 2931:13

monetary [3] - 2862:5,2889:10, 2889:11

Money [1] - 2939:15money [20] - 2830:3, 2833:5,

2883:14, 2912:12,2912:20, 2917:23,2917:25, 2934:13,2939:16, 2940:14, 2941:6,2941:12, 2945:10,2947:14, 2949:14, 2954:2,2954:6, 2954:9, 2961:20,2966:16

money" [1] - 2871:1monitor [3] - 2825:11,

2852:18, 2876:3monitored [4] - 2875:14,

2875:16, 2875:18, 2876:12monitoring [2] - 2875:5,

2876:9monoculture [1] - 2850:16Montana [2] - 2903:16,

2917:11month [2] - 2867:4, 2923:17Moon [3] - 2902:20, 2904:2,

2904:8moon [2] - 2904:4, 2904:5moose [10] - 2883:9,

2898:21, 2931:2, 2932:13,2934:5, 2934:9, 2937:12,2937:13, 2953:4, 2953:6

Moose [1] - 2964:3morally [1] - 2873:8more.. [1] - 2918:9Morin [2] - 2809:4, 2817:3morning [11] - 2813:1,

2813:5, 2813:10, 2813:15,2816:3, 2820:22, 2821:14,2860:11, 2874:10,2970:25, 2971:2

mortgage [1] - 2951:14Most [3] - 2870:9, 2870:25,

2907:15most [25] - 2833:15, 2836:8,

2837:23, 2848:19, 2856:1,

2861:8, 2864:20, 2865:11,2870:3, 2870:24, 2871:13,2889:23, 2896:12,2914:25, 2920:15,2924:15, 2926:22,2928:15, 2931:21, 2936:7,2952:8, 2960:7, 2965:7

mostly [1] - 2882:12motel [1] - 2877:14mother [3] - 2918:20,

2921:22, 2929:23Mother [10] - 2814:25,

2868:10, 2868:19,2868:20, 2872:6, 2902:19,2904:1, 2904:8, 2909:25,2916:19

mother's [2] - 2935:19,2940:15

Mountain [1] - 2933:12mountain [4] - 2910:12,

2910:19, 2910:23, 2911:1mountains [6] - 2916:25,

2930:21, 2954:11, 2965:1,2965:2, 2965:5

mouth [1] - 2937:23move [12] - 2843:24, 2844:3,

2888:19, 2888:21,2888:23, 2899:12, 2938:7,2958:6, 2959:22, 2959:25,2960:3, 2960:6

moved [7] - 2888:18,2951:18, 2958:6, 2958:15,2959:2, 2968:2, 2968:3

moving [4] - 2839:16,2839:22, 2899:14, 2908:7

Moving [1] - 2845:5MR [83] - 2811:4, 2811:10,

2811:18, 2811:23, 2812:1,2812:4, 2812:5, 2813:14,2813:15, 2820:22, 2834:1,2834:10, 2834:14, 2844:9,2844:19, 2844:23, 2845:4,2856:14, 2859:4, 2860:24,2861:14, 2861:20, 2862:3,2862:9, 2862:23, 2863:10,2863:25, 2864:18,2866:24, 2867:25, 2868:1,2872:3, 2873:18, 2875:13,2876:3, 2876:11, 2876:14,2877:2, 2877:17, 2878:9,2879:9, 2880:7, 2898:1,2901:20, 2901:21, 2913:8,2913:15, 2913:19,2913:20, 2914:6, 2918:10,2918:14, 2918:15,2921:11, 2925:13,2925:17, 2925:22,2925:25, 2926:2, 2926:3,2926:7, 2926:8, 2926:10,2926:13, 2927:24,2929:20, 2929:21,2931:20, 2935:4, 2935:16,



15

2935:17, 2939:2, 2950:16,2950:17, 2967:24,2968:16, 2968:19,2968:23, 2968:25, 2969:2,2969:5, 2969:8, 2969:9

MRS [18] - 2811:14, 2880:24,2881:5, 2881:8, 2881:12,2881:16, 2881:21, 2882:1,2882:9, 2882:14, 2882:17,2882:22, 2883:2, 2883:4,2883:10, 2883:15,2883:23, 2884:3

MS [78] - 2811:8, 2811:13,2811:21, 2811:22, 2812:3,2812:8, 2820:6, 2834:6,2834:11, 2844:5, 2844:10,2844:13, 2844:15,2844:17, 2845:2, 2856:12,2856:16, 2856:18,2860:10, 2860:11, 2861:6,2861:19, 2861:23, 2862:4,2862:20, 2863:1, 2863:20,2864:6, 2865:24, 2866:20,2867:21, 2874:24,2874:25, 2875:25, 2876:8,2876:13, 2876:17,2877:11, 2877:25,2878:21, 2880:1, 2881:1,2881:6, 2881:9, 2881:13,2881:17, 2881:22, 2882:2,2882:10, 2882:15,2882:19, 2882:23, 2883:3,2883:5, 2883:11, 2883:16,2883:24, 2884:4, 2901:13,2914:14, 2914:15,2914:18, 2914:23, 2915:2,2915:5, 2915:10, 2915:14,2915:18, 2915:23, 2916:2,2916:5, 2916:8, 2916:9,2931:25, 2932:3, 2935:6,2969:13, 2969:15

Mudge [1] - 2916:14multinationals [1] - 2895:24Murders [1] - 2908:2museums [1] - 2948:1must [10] - 2825:5, 2825:8,

2825:11, 2825:16,2906:16, 2910:11,2910:12, 2964:9, 2967:16

mutual [2] - 2832:7mutually [2] - 2832:19,

2853:20Myers [11] - 2834:12,

2857:20, 2857:23,2858:23, 2859:16, 2860:5,2864:7, 2865:19, 2866:2,2866:25, 2867:9

MYERS [12] - 2811:7,2811:9, 2834:13, 2857:21,2857:22, 2859:19, 2864:8,2864:9, 2864:16, 2865:14,2866:3, 2867:10

Mystery [2] - 2903:23,2904:23

Mystery" [1] - 2903:22Nalaine [2] - 2809:4, 2817:3name [23] - 2813:16, 2817:1,

2819:14, 2820:25, 2860:9,2860:11, 2884:19, 2894:3,2901:17, 2901:21,2901:22, 2907:17, 2908:2,2912:24, 2916:9, 2918:17,2922:14, 2929:21, 2932:3,2950:17, 2967:24,2969:14, 2972:14

name's [4] - 2813:16,2868:2, 2898:9, 2935:17

named [1] - 2906:7Nancy [3] - 2810:22, 2972:3,

2972:19narrows [2] - 2921:18,

2923:5Nation [35] - 2816:6,

2820:24, 2831:5, 2832:4,2832:12, 2832:20,2858:13, 2859:23,2860:13, 2861:7, 2861:8,2861:12, 2861:13,2862:16, 2862:24,2862:25, 2863:7, 2865:4,2865:8, 2865:11, 2885:24,2888:16, 2889:15,2889:16, 2891:17,2893:25, 2895:3, 2902:21,2909:24, 2935:18, 2939:9,2942:1, 2942:3, 2943:13,2944:20

National [2] - 2861:17,2884:22

national [1] - 2862:6nationally [1] - 2827:13Nations [25] - 2830:21,

2831:2, 2832:1, 2833:10,2835:15, 2850:24,2851:18, 2853:10,2853:14, 2853:17,2853:24, 2854:17, 2855:8,2872:13, 2886:25,2889:23, 2892:7, 2892:22,2895:8, 2934:1, 2937:8,2941:25, 2944:8, 2944:21,2944:23

Native [12] - 2813:18,2868:18, 2889:9, 2910:16,2917:20, 2919:10, 2920:5,2920:25, 2922:2, 2923:20,2929:8, 2951:2

Natives [5] - 2932:21,2951:19, 2957:22, 2963:4,2965:22

natural [2] - 2823:11,2953:23

Natural [1] - 2818:1naturally [3] - 2837:20,

2850:21, 2875:22nature [3] - 2840:11,

2846:11, 2848:20navigate [1] - 2847:9near [1] - 2842:17nearby [1] - 2915:16necessary [2] - 2837:23,

2851:6need [22] - 2834:4, 2839:6,

2845:13, 2865:16,2866:12, 2905:11, 2909:6,2909:7, 2909:8, 2909:9,2910:11, 2911:7, 2911:16,2930:15, 2932:1, 2960:18,2960:22, 2965:16,2965:17, 2967:5

needed [4] - 2820:8,2820:11, 2827:24, 2920:15

needs [4] - 2830:6, 2832:6,2832:7, 2858:16

Negative [1] - 2870:13negative [2] - 2831:1, 2907:7negotiate [2] - 2891:10,

2891:11negotiation [1] - 2943:21neighbouring [1] - 2881:19neighbours [3] - 2832:20,

2881:19, 2882:4Nelson [1] - 2956:19Nemiah [15] - 2821:19,

2842:5, 2852:9, 2868:7,2872:6, 2878:1, 2878:24,2879:4, 2881:7, 2882:3,2901:24, 2915:19,2915:23, 2967:25, 2968:2

net [1] - 2938:2nets [1] - 2881:14netting [1] - 2968:4network [2] - 2842:8,

2872:17never [18] - 2869:4, 2892:24,

2892:25, 2893:1, 2901:17,2903:23, 2906:20,2906:21, 2907:5, 2908:15,2919:13, 2939:11,2940:22, 2953:16,2956:13, 2958:23

Never [1] - 2941:14nevertheless [2] - 2859:17,

2869:21new [13] - 2823:1, 2832:24,

2833:2, 2839:12, 2839:23,2841:2, 2842:9, 2842:10,2850:10, 2855:23, 2862:2,2891:11, 2945:7

next [17] - 2813:8, 2833:19,2873:5, 2897:19, 2897:24,2898:5, 2908:11, 2913:4,2914:9, 2918:6, 2928:10,2929:19, 2931:24,2935:10, 2942:1, 2946:19,

2949:12Next [3] - 2901:11, 2901:15,

2916:7nickel [1] - 2939:22niece [1] - 2917:1Nielsen [3] - 2810:22,

2972:3, 2972:19night [1] - 2969:22nights [1] - 2903:17NO [1] - 2811:2no" [1] - 2872:7nobody [4] - 2896:24,

2950:2, 2963:11, 2966:9Nobody's [1] - 2892:25noise [3] - 2845:24, 2852:7,

2852:16non [3] - 2889:9, 2917:20,

2919:10non-Native [3] - 2889:9,

2917:20, 2919:10none [4] - 2866:13, 2866:16,

2889:1, 2892:24NOON [2] - 2811:11, 2874:13Nora [2] - 2901:11, 2901:12NORM [2] - 2812:4, 2935:16Norm [3] - 2810:14, 2935:15,

2935:17normal [1] - 2952:24normally [1] - 2816:12north [3] - 2875:15, 2885:8,

2909:23northerly [1] - 2837:10noted [1] - 2860:6notes [4] - 2856:11, 2856:12,

2860:16, 2877:12nothing [15] - 2827:9,

2891:10, 2907:3, 2909:4,2917:9, 2917:24, 2918:1,2930:18, 2930:19,2942:19, 2946:20, 2947:2,2953:24, 2968:11

Nothing [1] - 2936:17notice [1] - 2934:3Notice [1] - 2872:15Number [2] - 2914:1, 2914:2number [11] - 2832:10,

2836:3, 2842:19, 2842:23,2845:22, 2851:14, 2857:3,2879:11, 2885:1, 2913:15,2913:24

numbers [2] - 2862:5,2862:7

Nurse [1] - 2916:18o'clock [2] - 2970:24, 2971:3objectives [1] - 2850:13obligated [6] - 2849:12,

2851:25, 2852:4, 2852:17,2853:9, 2873:8

obligations [1] - 2836:3obliged [1] - 2873:7observations [1] - 2931:22



16

observed [1] - 2869:19obtain [1] - 2854:14occur [2] - 2820:2, 2835:2occurred [1] - 2838:10occurring [2] - 2847:17,

2875:23ocean [2] - 2908:18, 2948:23Oceans [3] - 2817:25,

2821:9, 2896:7October [1] - 2861:24OF [8] - 2808:8, 2811:1,

2811:8, 2811:9, 2811:13,2860:10, 2864:8, 2874:24

offered [1] - 2940:25offering [1] - 2910:15offers [1] - 2869:6office [1] - 2966:14Official [2] - 2972:3, 2972:20offs [1] - 2942:20offset [2] - 2850:2, 2852:5often [3] - 2824:4, 2897:17,

2948:4oil [2] - 2871:18, 2963:15Okanagan [1] - 2936:5old [17] - 2925:21, 2933:18,

2936:16, 2942:17,2950:19, 2956:4, 2956:9,2956:22, 2959:6, 2959:9,2963:16, 2963:18,2963:19, 2967:9, 2969:17,2969:19, 2969:21

older [1] - 2956:1oldest [1] - 2815:14ON [2] - 2812:11, 2971:7Once [1] - 2970:9once [10] - 2825:13, 2840:1,

2840:14, 2841:5, 2843:13,2926:23, 2930:25,2931:17, 2966:23, 2970:4

One [3] - 2921:4, 2935:21,2970:7

one [58] - 2814:11, 2815:13,2815:16, 2826:17, 2827:9,2836:21, 2838:24, 2844:9,2844:10, 2844:11,2848:15, 2848:24,2860:18, 2861:10,2864:24, 2868:25,2871:20, 2878:10,2884:24, 2888:4, 2890:15,2894:14, 2894:24,2896:12, 2899:14,2900:23, 2905:4, 2906:22,2908:10, 2910:20,2911:12, 2911:13,2913:15, 2913:24, 2921:2,2921:7, 2922:24, 2923:22,2924:17, 2930:22,2931:12, 2932:9, 2934:15,2936:11, 2936:19,2942:18, 2944:20,

2948:13, 2956:22,2961:17, 2967:10,2967:21, 2968:21, 2969:11

one-on-one [1] - 2910:20ones [11] - 2815:2, 2815:12,

2815:17, 2868:7, 2869:23,2904:10, 2909:21,2946:12, 2953:23,2960:14, 2961:1

Onion [1] - 2841:21onions [2] - 2951:21,

2955:14open [10] - 2813:3, 2813:22,

2824:22, 2834:20,2853:13, 2856:22,2857:18, 2912:18,2912:19, 2964:23

OPENING [2] - 2811:5,2816:2

opening [9] - 2813:2,2816:12, 2816:18,2816:20, 2820:16, 2845:6,2874:7, 2955:16, 2961:3

operate [2] - 2825:17, 2849:7operating [2] - 2828:6,

2828:25operation [7] - 2825:12,

2831:16, 2840:8, 2852:14,2856:5, 2868:11, 2872:14

operations [3] - 2825:15,2842:21, 2952:13

opportunities [7] - 2817:14,2832:3, 2832:16, 2832:21,2854:9, 2854:11, 2855:7

opportunity [10] - 2817:10,2823:1, 2823:12, 2827:20,2828:18, 2830:15,2830:23, 2848:22, 2854:3,2880:22

opposition [1] - 2826:7optimism [1] - 2823:3option [3] - 2827:10,

2865:10, 2946:7options [1] - 2827:8oral [1] - 2887:11order [8] - 2810:1, 2819:17,

2839:15, 2845:12, 2848:2,2862:13, 2888:16, 2892:22

ore [9] - 2836:11, 2837:19,2838:25, 2839:19,2839:20, 2840:15,2845:10, 2877:23, 2911:23

Orientals [1] - 2908:7original [4] - 2835:19,

2835:20, 2841:1, 2841:12originally [1] - 2915:23otherwise [1] - 2826:10ounce [1] - 2939:20ourself [2] - 2886:9, 2943:22ourselves [1] - 2831:25outcome [2] - 2835:20,

2851:24outfit [1] - 2953:15outline [1] - 2836:19Outreach [1] - 2953:15outside [6] - 2863:7, 2863:8,

2863:16, 2926:24,2928:25, 2930:20

overflow [1] - 2849:11overheads [1] - 2856:11overpopulated [1] - 2955:8oversaw [1] - 2867:2overview [3] - 2821:13,

2821:15, 2843:22Overwaitea [1] - 2937:4overwhelming [1] - 2898:17overwide [1] - 2957:15own [18] - 2825:3, 2825:4,

2854:7, 2855:13, 2882:11,2889:17, 2889:18, 2898:3,2899:2, 2902:6, 2904:12,2919:11, 2919:12,2919:14, 2922:1, 2961:18,2961:20

owned [3] - 2832:15, 2854:2,2854:8

P.M [6] - 2811:12, 2811:12,2812:10, 2874:14,2874:15, 2971:6

packing [1] - 2816:14Paddy [1] - 2916:13PAGE [1] - 2811:2Pages [1] - 2808:17paid [4] - 2830:20, 2919:13,

2920:19, 2927:6pain [1] - 2822:14PALMANTIER [11] - 2811:8,

2860:10, 2860:11, 2861:6,2861:19, 2861:23, 2862:4,2862:20, 2863:1, 2863:20,2864:6

Palmantier [1] - 2860:12pan [1] - 2954:3PANEL [8] - 2808:6, 2809:2,

2811:24, 2812:2, 2812:7,2927:14, 2931:9, 2968:13

Panel [14] - 2809:3, 2809:4,2809:4, 2816:25, 2817:2,2817:10, 2817:17,2820:23, 2825:1, 2834:2,2859:5, 2868:1, 2894:2,2897:11

pants [2] - 2967:12, 2967:13paper [2] - 2863:23, 2948:2papers [1] - 2961:2Parker [2] - 2809:8, 2817:6part [8] - 2823:9, 2831:3,

2836:9, 2859:13, 2864:5,2875:19, 2877:18, 2884:23

participants [2] - 2817:16,2818:19

participate [1] - 2855:11

participation [1] - 2818:13particular [2] - 2852:2,

2865:12particularly [3] - 2851:11,

2852:9, 2855:23PARTIES [1] - 2810:1Parties [1] - 2818:15partnerships [2] - 2832:19,

2853:20party [1] - 2882:24pass [1] - 2957:13passed [5] - 2887:12,

2888:7, 2900:14, 2924:7,2928:18

past [6] - 2822:20, 2867:16,2878:22, 2883:22,2925:19, 2959:1

patch [1] - 2962:16Patricia [1] - 2809:10pavement [1] - 2965:11pay [12] - 2865:7, 2915:6,

2924:12, 2927:4, 2927:5,2927:8, 2939:19, 2951:12,2956:24, 2961:4, 2967:1

paying [5] - 2871:10,2912:15, 2924:10,2924:11, 2924:12

PEARL [3] - 2812:8, 2969:15,2969:16

Pearl [3] - 2810:17, 2969:11,2969:14

pellets [1] - 2953:11pension [4] - 2951:10,

2951:11, 2951:12, 2955:14pensioned [1] - 2951:16pensioners [1] - 2956:22people [135] - 2815:4,

2815:13, 2817:8, 2819:8,2819:22, 2820:14,2821:22, 2822:8, 2822:18,2823:24, 2824:2, 2825:21,2827:12, 2828:1, 2828:24,2829:7, 2829:22, 2830:15,2831:6, 2832:3, 2833:12,2852:8, 2856:25, 2863:12,2863:14, 2863:17,2863:18, 2867:16,2867:18, 2868:2, 2869:20,2869:24, 2869:25, 2870:2,2870:25, 2871:8, 2872:6,2879:3, 2881:7, 2882:3,2882:8, 2882:11, 2882:25,2883:13, 2883:17, 2886:1,2891:15, 2895:6, 2895:17,2897:15, 2898:16,2898:19, 2900:19,2901:25, 2903:6, 2903:8,2903:9, 2904:9, 2904:17,2906:4, 2906:6, 2906:12,2906:18, 2906:19,2907:14, 2908:7, 2909:11,



17

2910:1, 2910:4, 2910:9,2910:22, 2911:14, 2912:4,2912:5, 2912:6, 2915:11,2917:19, 2918:3, 2919:9,2920:5, 2920:21, 2922:3,2923:20, 2929:8, 2933:3,2933:4, 2934:1, 2935:24,2937:3, 2937:9, 2937:24,2938:6, 2938:16, 2940:4,2940:5, 2940:7, 2940:10,2940:16, 2940:20, 2941:1,2941:16, 2941:18,2941:20, 2941:22,2942:17, 2942:24, 2943:6,2944:7, 2944:18, 2944:22,2944:23, 2945:6, 2945:13,2947:6, 2947:17, 2948:6,2948:13, 2948:19,2948:21, 2949:17,2949:24, 2955:15, 2956:2,2956:4, 2956:9, 2966:6,2967:5, 2967:16

People [55] - 2813:8,2815:11, 2832:1, 2862:7,2867:17, 2868:6, 2869:9,2869:12, 2870:14,2870:17, 2872:13,2886:15, 2887:7, 2887:15,2887:21, 2889:2, 2889:8,2890:14, 2891:13,2891:19, 2891:23, 2893:1,2898:16, 2898:18,2898:24, 2899:20,2899:22, 2902:2, 2902:7,2903:19, 2903:20, 2905:7,2905:22, 2906:9, 2908:1,2908:17, 2910:7, 2911:25,2914:24, 2916:12, 2917:7,2917:10, 2917:12,2917:13, 2917:20, 2918:3,2919:10, 2921:3, 2922:11,2922:22, 2923:14, 2939:9,2942:8, 2943:7, 2945:21

people" [1] - 2903:10Peoples [4] - 2887:8,

2890:22, 2893:12, 2894:7percent [7] - 2830:13,

2863:12, 2941:15,2941:17, 2949:6, 2952:2,2957:8

percentage [1] - 2937:8Percy [1] - 2859:7perhaps [11] - 2824:5,

2841:14, 2841:15,2844:20, 2857:1, 2859:12,2859:16, 2865:20,2865:22, 2880:5, 2935:14

period [7] - 2819:19,2820:18, 2828:5, 2829:10,2857:24, 2878:14, 2878:19

permanent [2] - 2839:8,2840:25

permanently [1] - 2840:2permission [6] - 2868:6,

2868:10, 2872:5, 2910:11,2938:10, 2944:12

permit [5] - 2865:6, 2867:2,2896:20, 2924:19

permits [5] - 2818:3,2818:12, 2864:5, 2896:9,2961:9

person [8] - 2829:3, 2887:18,2889:10, 2897:24, 2898:5,2920:11, 2943:5, 2950:18

person-years [1] - 2829:3Personal [14] - 2810:2,

2810:3, 2810:5, 2810:6,2810:7, 2810:8, 2810:10,2810:11, 2810:12,2810:13, 2810:14,2810:15, 2810:16, 2810:17

personnel [2] - 2868:4,2871:21

persons [1] - 2829:16perspective [4] - 2861:12,

2872:22, 2873:2, 2882:3pesticides [1] - 2952:4Peter [5] - 2810:15, 2950:13,

2950:15, 2950:17, 2967:20PETER [3] - 2812:5, 2950:16,

2950:17Peyal [3] - 2810:12, 2929:19,

2929:21PEYAL [2] - 2812:1, 2929:20Ph.D.s [1] - 2863:5phase [1] - 2825:13phases [1] - 2842:20photo [1] - 2869:13photographs [1] - 2857:1physical [2] - 2845:23,

2904:20pick [2] - 2962:12, 2969:24picking [1] - 2970:11picture [8] - 2836:25, 2837:7,

2837:10, 2840:6, 2840:9,2842:13, 2843:3, 2925:14

pictures [4] - 2844:6, 2844:8,2857:10, 2945:22

piece [3] - 2830:7, 2956:17,2964:2

pieces [1] - 2849:24pig [2] - 2958:18, 2958:20pigs [3] - 2958:9, 2958:17pine [2] - 2823:4, 2962:4pipe [17] - 2902:5, 2903:4,

2903:5, 2903:7, 2903:12,2903:13, 2906:8, 2906:14,2906:16, 2906:17, 2907:4,2907:6, 2913:12, 2913:22,2942:9

Pipe [2] - 2815:11, 2906:9pit [16] - 2834:20, 2836:19,

2837:14, 2838:14,

2838:25, 2840:12,2840:13, 2840:16, 2841:8,2849:10, 2925:8, 2925:13,2925:18, 2925:23, 2926:15

pitiful [1] - 2814:5pity [1] - 2814:22place [15] - 2848:11,

2853:17, 2866:7, 2866:8,2872:18, 2872:20,2877:13, 2877:23,2886:24, 2892:19,2938:24, 2952:14, 2959:2,2972:8

place" [1] - 2815:23placed [1] - 2838:5places [2] - 2917:23,

2948:20plan [5] - 2835:20, 2843:14,

2850:1, 2852:1, 2878:20Plan [2] - 2850:12, 2878:15planned [1] - 2861:1planning [1] - 2945:12plans [5] - 2872:9, 2876:25,

2879:7, 2879:10, 2942:4plant [5] - 2851:18, 2852:3,

2877:21, 2904:8, 2910:3planted [2] - 2840:20,

2840:21plants [10] - 2835:13, 2846:7,

2846:15, 2851:8, 2851:16,2851:22, 2901:1, 2915:2,2955:15, 2955:20

Plateau [1] - 2917:24play [3] - 2894:17, 2970:2,

2970:4playing [1] - 2922:5pleased [1] - 2913:3pliers [1] - 2953:5plough [3] - 2956:15,

2956:16, 2956:23plus [1] - 2956:21point [13] - 2820:13,

2834:25, 2835:19, 2845:6,2859:5, 2860:8, 2862:9,2873:22, 2874:1, 2874:20,2879:24, 2897:10, 2950:9

pointed [1] - 2877:13points [2] - 2859:23poison [4] - 2893:23, 2943:4,

2954:13, 2960:15poisoning [1] - 2942:13poisonous [1] - 2954:12poles [2] - 2843:18, 2900:10police [1] - 2846:24policy [2] - 2832:24, 2832:25Policy" [1] - 2832:25pollinate [1] - 2952:5pollinated [1] - 2955:21pollution [3] - 2952:10,

2952:11, 2964:25pond [10] - 2838:1, 2839:5,

2840:19, 2840:25, 2841:7,2878:2, 2936:17, 2936:20,2937:14, 2945:18

pond" [1] - 2838:18ponds [1] - 2936:12pool [1] - 2917:18poor [6] - 2905:2, 2928:3,

2941:2, 2947:4, 2956:9,2962:14

poplar [1] - 2962:5Poplar [1] - 2917:10popular [1] - 2951:5population [2] - 2829:15,

2850:20port [1] - 2939:13position [1] - 2886:10positive [3] - 2830:25,

2831:24, 2870:13possibility [1] - 2878:12possible [3] - 2825:9,

2826:17, 2855:14poster [1] - 2900:23posters [2] - 2857:1, 2857:7potential [5] - 2817:11,

2822:2, 2831:4, 2864:24,2865:12

potentially [3] - 2839:2,2839:7, 2848:23

pour [1] - 2871:17poverty [1] - 2882:11Pow [1] - 2917:2power [10] - 2832:2, 2841:17,

2843:17, 2890:15,2913:20, 2932:21,2933:21, 2933:23,2955:25, 2970:4

powerful [1] - 2909:22Powerpoint [1] - 2857:14powers [2] - 2815:5, 2866:9Practical [1] - 2916:18practice [1] - 2816:11practised [1] - 2963:20Prairies [1] - 2935:19pray [9] - 2814:21, 2868:19,

2902:15, 2902:16, 2907:5,2908:23, 2910:12, 2910:21

PRAYER [1] - 2811:3prayer [2] - 2813:23, 2874:8prayers [1] - 2908:25predict [4] - 2825:8, 2846:2,

2879:19, 2939:23prediction [1] - 2849:5predictions [5] - 2825:6,

2825:14, 2825:15,2825:17, 2852:2

Pregnant [1] - 2953:15pregnant [1] - 2953:15prepare [3] - 2817:23,

2859:11, 2933:1prepared [1] - 2855:25present [5] - 2816:16,



18

2818:6, 2820:9, 2860:20,2867:3

presentation [14] - 2819:18,2820:17, 2820:20,2821:15, 2835:23,2860:15, 2860:19,2874:22, 2880:6, 2880:17,2880:20, 2884:7, 2897:8,2913:2

Presentation [1] - 2857:14PRESENTATION [30] -

2811:4, 2811:6, 2811:14,2811:16, 2811:17,2811:18, 2811:20,2811:22, 2811:23, 2812:1,2812:3, 2812:4, 2812:5,2812:6, 2812:8, 2813:14,2820:21, 2880:24,2884:18, 2898:8, 2901:20,2914:13, 2916:8, 2918:14,2929:20, 2931:25,2935:16, 2950:16,2967:23, 2969:15

presentations [3] - 2813:9,2819:21, 2856:25

presented [2] - 2816:12,2903:5

PRESENTERS [1] - 2810:1President [1] - 2821:1press [1] - 2861:24presuming [1] - 2897:18pretty [11] - 2900:5, 2918:23,

2928:3, 2929:14, 2931:2,2931:8, 2933:5, 2933:7,2944:9, 2959:22, 2961:10

previous [2] - 2857:5,2875:21

previously [2] - 2840:23,2873:20

priests [1] - 2867:17primary [1] - 2872:12Princess [2] - 2917:2, 2917:3priorities [2] - 2825:21,

2833:12private [1] - 2956:17pro [3] - 2951:5, 2953:9,

2966:7problem [7] - 2858:1,

2858:5, 2879:21, 2927:20,2954:18, 2959:21, 2966:10

problems [3] - 2879:2,2922:23, 2958:23

procedure [1] - 2819:6procedures [1] - 2817:8proceed [17] - 2818:4,

2818:11, 2820:20, 2824:7,2834:3, 2836:6, 2853:5,2856:17, 2873:4, 2874:21,2880:5, 2880:16, 2884:16,2891:20, 2892:22, 2895:4,2918:6

proceedings [2] - 2972:7,2972:10

PROCEEDINGS [10] -2808:13, 2811:1, 2811:12,2811:12, 2812:10,2812:11, 2874:14,2874:15, 2971:6, 2971:7

proceeds [3] - 2826:24,2862:14, 2876:5

process [13] - 2822:15,2827:7, 2831:3, 2838:1,2845:7, 2858:20, 2864:2,2872:12, 2886:21,2886:23, 2887:1, 2887:3,2896:24

processing [1] - 2877:22Proclamation [1] - 2892:19produce [2] - 2952:1, 2961:4producing [3] - 2890:18,

2952:10, 2952:15product [1] - 2838:1products [1] - 2842:15profit [4] - 2940:1, 2940:3,

2943:11, 2949:13progress [3] - 2895:18,

2960:24PROJECT [1] - 2808:2Project [59] - 2817:12,

2817:14, 2817:20, 2818:4,2821:5, 2821:6, 2821:13,2821:17, 2822:2, 2825:9,2826:14, 2826:24,2827:14, 2829:10,2829:17, 2830:11,2831:23, 2833:24,2833:25, 2834:18,2834:25, 2835:22, 2836:6,2836:9, 2839:11, 2839:24,2841:6, 2841:22, 2842:21,2842:25, 2843:23,2845:11, 2845:19,2846:12, 2846:19,2846:22, 2847:2, 2847:8,2847:10, 2847:16,2847:19, 2848:17,2848:24, 2849:25,2851:13, 2851:21, 2853:5,2854:20, 2856:6, 2862:13,2873:4, 2873:21, 2876:4,2876:7, 2877:18, 2879:9,2879:11, 2879:20, 2895:4

project [4] - 2862:2, 2862:21,2886:13

Project's [1] - 2847:5project-by-project [1] -

2862:21projects [1] - 2847:17promise [2] - 2869:3, 2871:3promised [5] - 2940:16,

2966:12, 2966:17,2966:25, 2967:17

promises [2] - 2873:5,2899:7

promote [2] - 2853:19,2855:7

promoting [1] - 2832:18proof [1] - 2942:12proper [2] - 2859:20, 2955:1properly [1] - 2858:14property [5] - 2954:8,

2956:17, 2960:13, 2962:9,2962:11

property's [1] - 2956:12Proposal [1] - 2879:17propose [1] - 2834:25proposed [6] - 2817:12,

2817:19, 2885:25,2886:14, 2890:15, 2894:1

Prosperity [22] - 2821:4,2826:7, 2826:9, 2827:9,2827:14, 2827:25,2828:24, 2829:2, 2830:10,2830:17, 2830:25,2831:16, 2831:20, 2832:2,2833:4, 2833:6, 2839:13,2841:2, 2841:7, 2857:25,2862:1, 2899:13

PROSPERITY [1] - 2808:2protect [1] - 2895:9protected [1] - 2825:25protecting [2] - 2893:2,

2920:18protection [1] - 2893:6protein [2] - 2952:22,

2952:23prove [8] - 2824:12, 2825:5,

2825:6, 2825:12, 2830:25,2946:1, 2946:3, 2946:15

proven [1] - 2825:4provide [11] - 2817:9,

2817:13, 2818:17, 2822:8,2833:23, 2844:25,2850:23, 2851:4, 2854:9,2854:11, 2861:21

provided [4] - 2833:9,2850:10, 2861:16, 2932:9

provides [1] - 2848:21providing [6] - 2832:16,

2832:21, 2868:20,2880:14, 2883:8, 2932:12

province [2] - 2823:17,2829:9

Province [6] - 2832:9,2833:1, 2833:2, 2849:6,2865:2, 2896:3

province's [1] - 2829:15provinces [1] - 2943:20Provinces [1] - 2972:4Provincial [20] - 2826:20,

2827:15, 2830:2, 2832:8,2832:24, 2833:10,2835:25, 2836:3, 2845:22,

2849:4, 2851:24, 2853:2,2853:8, 2861:25, 2862:11,2862:15, 2865:6, 2924:21,2929:4, 2956:16

provincial [6] - 2828:12,2829:18, 2849:12,2849:13, 2862:6, 2891:24

Provincially [1] - 2886:22provincially [1] - 2827:13provisions [1] - 2879:17puberty [1] - 2866:7PUBLIC [1] - 2808:6public [5] - 2818:8, 2821:17,

2827:18, 2835:14, 2917:18public's [1] - 2847:8published [1] - 2875:19pull [3] - 2843:14, 2967:11,

2967:13pulp [1] - 2942:14pump [1] - 2909:12punched [1] - 2957:17purchase [1] - 2928:2purchased [1] - 2920:12purchasing [2] - 2920:14,

2923:8purification [1] - 2913:25purpose [11] - 2817:9,

2821:20, 2821:24,2823:19, 2831:25,2843:13, 2857:6, 2872:25,2890:7, 2893:2, 2908:21

purposes [4] - 2839:14,2851:20, 2857:16, 2966:20

PURSUANT [1] - 2808:7pursue [1] - 2868:10push [2] - 2893:21, 2895:25pushed [2] - 2896:1, 2959:1pushing [1] - 2892:7put [33] - 2844:8, 2856:25,

2862:25, 2879:10,2881:13, 2883:12,2885:12, 2886:24,2892:19, 2899:8, 2900:2,2914:24, 2919:2, 2919:7,2928:25, 2932:19,2933:21, 2939:12, 2944:9,2945:23, 2946:4, 2952:11,2952:24, 2953:11,2954:13, 2954:23, 2956:5,2956:7, 2961:2, 2961:9,2963:4, 2964:12, 2970:5

putting [4] - 2882:23,2887:4, 2900:3, 2900:10

quality [5] - 2846:2, 2846:5,2875:2, 2875:14, 2876:6

Quality [1] - 2876:15quantum [1] - 2862:24quarter [1] - 2953:25quasi [1] - 2819:7quasi-judicial [1] - 2819:7Quesnel [2] - 2863:13,



19

2938:25quest [4] - 2871:23, 2903:15,

2905:12, 2914:1questioning [3] - 2856:23,

2886:20, 2886:23questions [30] - 2817:7,

2817:15, 2819:19,2823:20, 2833:14,2857:19, 2860:7, 2860:17,2863:25, 2864:10,2867:24, 2868:3, 2872:1,2872:4, 2873:25, 2874:20,2874:21, 2875:1, 2877:12,2880:2, 2880:4, 2897:9,2897:12, 2897:20, 2901:8,2901:9, 2931:11, 2935:3,2935:25, 2970:16

QUESTIONS [16] - 2811:8,2811:9, 2811:10, 2811:13,2811:19, 2811:24, 2812:2,2812:7, 2860:10, 2864:8,2867:25, 2874:24, 2913:7,2927:14, 2931:9, 2968:13

quests [3] - 2903:13,2906:25, 2910:20

quick [1] - 2843:22quicker [1] - 2967:9quickly [1] - 2843:24quiet [1] - 2912:18quite [9] - 2840:13, 2858:25,

2867:10, 2879:2, 2880:21,2885:1, 2885:11, 2900:8,2944:25

rabbits [2] - 2957:21,2957:23

radio [2] - 2961:24, 2961:25rainfall [2] - 2878:2, 2878:4raise [4] - 2860:8, 2928:4,

2928:23, 2954:15raised [7] - 2817:15, 2852:8,

2915:24, 2918:19,2929:25, 2951:3

raising [2] - 2954:16, 2958:8Ranch [2] - 2919:18, 2933:12ranch [1] - 2920:12rancher [7] - 2919:17,

2920:10, 2920:22, 2929:3,2929:5, 2953:9, 2961:17

ranchers [11] - 2919:3,2919:10, 2920:10,2922:19, 2928:24,2950:22, 2954:6, 2954:7,2961:12, 2961:14, 2961:16

ranches [4] - 2919:11,2941:8, 2961:19, 2961:20

ranching [6] - 2822:9,2847:2, 2927:20, 2927:21,2929:12, 2961:17

range [1] - 2878:25rape [2] - 2961:15, 2961:22rate [1] - 2962:6

Rather [1] - 2821:14rating [1] - 2877:3ravages [1] - 2823:4RCR [3] - 2810:22, 2972:3,

2972:19re [1] - 2938:3re-established [1] - 2938:3reached [4] - 2835:25,

2836:1, 2851:12, 2952:14ready [1] - 2908:8real [9] - 2813:16, 2824:3,

2871:4, 2873:6, 2873:11,2912:24, 2938:22, 2945:23

realize [6] - 2841:15,2865:15, 2877:12,2877:13, 2877:15, 2955:17

realized [1] - 2852:20Really [1] - 2944:14really [27] - 2823:5, 2856:13,

2869:2, 2869:4, 2870:23,2871:4, 2882:4, 2883:6,2883:19, 2883:21,2885:18, 2895:1, 2898:24,2909:4, 2910:11, 2912:2,2914:3, 2922:17, 2924:22,2927:2, 2936:19, 2943:25,2948:18, 2955:20, 2967:5

Realtime [2] - 2972:4,2972:20

rear [1] - 2851:7reason [3] - 2861:6, 2907:18,

2944:17reasonable [1] - 2861:4reasons [1] - 2896:13receive [2] - 2817:10,

2821:21received [4] - 2857:4,

2857:7, 2871:22, 2873:15recently [1] - 2875:7recognize [3] - 2818:16,

2853:15, 2891:24recommendations [1] -

2818:17RECONVENE [2] - 2812:11,

2971:7RECONVENED [2] -

2811:12, 2874:15record [9] - 2810:1, 2819:11,

2819:13, 2848:12, 2857:6,2858:3, 2860:21, 2864:5,2959:3

recorded [1] - 2858:20recorder [1] - 2858:7recreation [1] - 2822:10red [1] - 2813:25Red [3] - 2870:8, 2902:16,

2908:15refer [1] - 2838:18Reference [1] - 2845:20reference [1] - 2889:4referred [5] - 2839:1,

2839:13, 2842:14,2861:14, 2894:9

referring [3] - 2837:15,2881:22, 2925:23

reflected [1] - 2855:3refuse [1] - 2923:10regarding [9] - 2860:3,

2864:17, 2885:23,2885:24, 2886:21, 2887:7,2890:20, 2890:23, 2894:11

regards [6] - 2833:16,2857:25, 2861:24,2864:10, 2864:12, 2866:12

Region [1] - 2830:8regional [2] - 2828:12,

2828:19regionally [1] - 2827:13REGISTRY [1] - 2808:3regrows [1] - 2960:3regulations [1] - 2872:10Regulator [1] - 2821:9regulators [2] - 2824:11,

2835:15regulatory [1] - 2827:16rehab [2] - 2967:3, 2967:5related [2] - 2842:24,

2958:17relates [1] - 2826:7relation [1] - 2847:16relations [7] - 2815:1,

2815:2, 2869:22, 2869:23,2904:10, 2905:5, 2918:4

relationship [1] - 2873:9relearn [1] - 2907:19release [1] - 2861:24rely [1] - 2881:24relying [1] - 2851:19remain [5] - 2825:25, 2839:9,

2840:2, 2840:25, 2855:25remainders [1] - 2863:15remark [1] - 2865:21REMARKS [2] - 2811:5,

2816:2remarks [5] - 2813:4,

2816:18, 2816:21,2820:16, 2845:7

remedial [1] - 2879:18remember [2] - 2919:16,

2964:9Remember [1] - 2911:1remind [1] - 2850:4reminded [1] - 2848:9remove [1] - 2843:15removed [3] - 2841:12,

2841:16, 2905:23renewed [1] - 2831:24rent [4] - 2871:10, 2912:15,

2951:12, 2951:14repeat [1] - 2843:12replace [2] - 2915:8report [4] - 2817:23, 2818:5,

2818:9, 2879:18Report [1] - 2833:24reported [1] - 2875:20Reporter [2] - 2972:4,

2972:20REPORTER'S [1] - 2972:1Reporting [1] - 2810:22reporting [1] - 2879:15REPORTING [1] - 2810:21Reports [1] - 2876:16represent [2] - 2829:23,

2838:9represented [1] - 2840:19represents [5] - 2814:9,

2837:2, 2837:14, 2837:25,2843:4

request [1] - 2861:17required [5] - 2824:22,

2824:24, 2825:1, 2849:5,2853:12

requirements [1] - 2829:19Res [4] - 2918:21, 2932:22,

2970:3, 2970:5research [4] - 2824:14,

2866:12, 2937:25, 2953:18Reserve [10] - 2808:23,

2831:7, 2891:5, 2891:8,2899:14, 2914:20,2929:22, 2933:21,2935:21, 2950:1

Reserves [1] - 2919:3residential [5] - 2822:14,

2829:6, 2899:18, 2907:16,2928:16

Residents [1] - 2820:23resilience [1] - 2822:17resort [1] - 2895:11resource [8] - 2823:16,

2847:1, 2855:16, 2863:22,2888:14, 2895:11, 2960:22

resource-based [2] -2823:16

Resources [1] - 2818:1resources [8] - 2823:11,

2847:12, 2853:1, 2882:6,2892:8, 2893:14, 2960:23

respect [6] - 2822:5, 2873:3,2904:1, 2910:8, 2913:16

respectful [1] - 2818:24respond [6] - 2817:15,

2819:25, 2823:20, 2859:2,2866:25, 2875:10

response [1] - 2880:15responses [1] - 2880:3responsibilities [1] -

2818:21responsibility [1] - 2818:24responsible [1] - 2877:7rest [2] - 2898:18, 2943:19restaurants [2] - 2945:9,

2946:9



20

restore [2] - 2840:21, 2850:7result [10] - 2824:5, 2827:22,

2834:22, 2835:11,2835:17, 2847:15, 2849:3,2852:17, 2853:7, 2864:2

results [1] - 2825:12retain [2] - 2826:11, 2845:13retrace [1] - 2870:19retrieve [1] - 2907:20return [4] - 2834:25,

2840:17, 2958:14, 2970:24returned [1] - 2840:11returning [1] - 2835:6Revenue [1] - 2832:25revenue [4] - 2833:8,

2833:11, 2862:10, 2862:11Review [1] - 2849:4REVIEW [1] - 2808:6review [2] - 2827:16, 2861:18reviewed [1] - 2818:9rich [4] - 2894:20, 2894:21,

2905:2, 2966:6Richmond [2] - 2966:14,

2967:4rid [3] - 2928:19, 2954:19,

2955:7ridge [1] - 2877:24rig [1] - 2957:15rights [12] - 2888:19,

2888:22, 2919:6, 2919:23,2919:25, 2920:2, 2920:3,2920:7, 2920:21, 2927:25,2928:24, 2966:17

Rights [1] - 2894:12rise [4] - 2829:5, 2829:9,

2829:13, 2829:16risen [1] - 2820:1risk [1] - 2873:19Riske [1] - 2961:18risked [1] - 2873:20River [19] - 2837:7, 2837:8,

2837:11, 2837:12, 2840:5,2840:18, 2841:19,2841:20, 2841:25, 2875:3,2875:14, 2875:18,2925:19, 2925:24,2932:17, 2936:23,2936:24, 2941:23, 2942:10

river [15] - 2847:25, 2875:8,2900:12, 2900:16,2921:19, 2932:18, 2933:6,2933:7, 2933:10, 2937:24,2941:21, 2942:16, 2959:9,2969:20, 2969:22

rivers [2] - 2847:10, 2937:2Rivers [1] - 2849:2Road [6] - 2842:5, 2842:6,

2842:7, 2878:24, 2956:20road [26] - 2842:7, 2842:8,

2842:10, 2842:24,2877:10, 2877:20,

2878:24, 2879:1, 2879:7,2879:11, 2885:10, 2891:4,2891:7, 2891:9, 2891:11,2931:1, 2939:24, 2946:2,2953:3, 2956:15, 2956:24,2957:13, 2963:8, 2964:18,2964:19

roadblock [3] - 2923:11,2924:15, 2963:5

roads [7] - 2842:2, 2842:9,2842:12, 2860:23, 2861:2,2957:1, 2957:3

Robert [1] - 2809:3rock [4] - 2838:5, 2838:24,

2839:1, 2839:2rocks [1] - 2969:22Rod [5] - 2809:14, 2821:3,

2821:13, 2833:22, 2844:1Rod's [1] - 2821:6rodeo [2] - 2951:5, 2951:7Roger [3] - 2815:19,

2844:13, 2932:25ROGER [2] - 2844:14,

2882:16role [1] - 2831:2Ronzio [2] - 2809:7, 2817:6room [1] - 2928:20root [2] - 2823:7, 2946:12rooted [4] - 2815:3, 2815:13,

2869:24, 2910:3rotting [1] - 2962:25roughly [3] - 2834:7,

2844:21, 2844:22round [3] - 2890:5, 2934:8,

2942:21route [1] - 2891:6routes [1] - 2890:23Royal [2] - 2892:19, 2916:17RPR [3] - 2810:22, 2972:3,

2972:19ruled [1] - 2924:21rules [3] - 2896:14, 2896:18,

2896:19rumour [1] - 2824:5run [7] - 2900:22, 2932:21,

2942:9, 2942:20, 2954:11,2965:16

run-off [1] - 2942:20run-offs [1] - 2942:20running [1] - 2825:13runs [2] - 2941:21, 2945:3Rush [1] - 2822:13rut [2] - 2908:3, 2912:1sacred [26] - 2813:19,

2814:10, 2866:6, 2866:9,2866:10, 2868:12,2869:17, 2870:13, 2888:9,2902:5, 2902:17, 2903:12,2903:18, 2905:22,2905:23, 2906:5, 2906:20,2907:3, 2907:7, 2907:12,

2908:22, 2909:16,2909:22, 2911:3, 2911:6,2912:5

Sacred [2] - 2870:16, 2906:9sacredness [2] - 2888:11,

2916:23sacrifice [1] - 2947:16sad [2] - 2883:18, 2883:19safe [3] - 2879:8, 2943:9,

2946:2safely [3] - 2957:5, 2965:14,

2965:15safer [1] - 2960:24safety [1] - 2825:19Safeway [3] - 2937:4,

2961:9, 2961:10sage [1] - 2813:25sale [2] - 2941:13, 2943:24salmon [1] - 2900:16salvaged [1] - 2952:19sample [1] - 2956:4sand [4] - 2838:2, 2838:3,

2838:6, 2838:23sand-like [1] - 2838:23Saskatoon [1] - 2969:25Saskatoon) [1] - 2970:1sat [2] - 2918:10, 2918:11satellite [2] - 2869:13,

2955:24SATURDAY [2] - 2812:11,

2971:8sauna [1] - 2917:19scale [1] - 2844:23scenario [3] - 2863:11,

2878:18scenarios [1] - 2878:17school [4] - 2899:18,

2907:16, 2928:16, 2964:17School [1] - 2857:8schools [2] - 2822:15,

2960:5science [2] - 2835:12,

2845:8scientific [6] - 2824:14,

2942:12, 2945:25,2946:14, 2946:25, 2947:18

Scott [2] - 2809:15, 2956:19screen [2] - 2858:21,

2859:24scrutiny [1] - 2835:14sea [1] - 2942:23searched [1] - 2826:10season [2] - 2933:8, 2946:11seasonal [1] - 2890:5second [4] - 2836:25,

2868:9, 2924:17, 2927:25secondary [1] - 2821:24secret [2] - 2815:5, 2815:10Secret [1] - 2815:10Secretariat [4] - 2816:8,

2816:25, 2817:5

SECTION [1] - 2808:8section [1] - 2861:11security [2] - 2825:19,

2827:18See [3] - 2937:6, 2966:10,

2966:23see [38] - 2825:22, 2825:25,

2826:3, 2835:4, 2840:12,2841:1, 2841:11, 2841:14,2841:19, 2844:2, 2845:16,2854:20, 2865:9, 2869:13,2871:10, 2876:1, 2888:20,2890:19, 2890:25,2899:15, 2903:23,2903:24, 2908:25,2912:10, 2912:11,2912:14, 2915:19,2918:25, 2921:17,2922:15, 2927:16, 2928:9,2932:20, 2933:21,2942:18, 2942:19, 2949:9,2962:24

seeing [1] - 2916:25seek [3] - 2820:10, 2854:13,

2855:6seem [8] - 2824:4, 2858:10,

2919:8, 2919:11, 2919:12,2919:14, 2923:14, 2927:5

seep [1] - 2937:1sees [1] - 2914:20self [4] - 2835:1, 2835:7,

2850:18, 2850:19self-sustain [1] - 2850:18self-sustaining [1] - 2850:19sell [7] - 2919:13, 2920:21,

2922:21, 2928:5, 2943:22,2961:5, 2961:10

sells [1] - 2934:12sense [2] - 2831:25, 2882:23sensitive [1] - 2855:19serious [5] - 2888:10,

2888:13, 2895:5, 2966:13seriously [2] - 2818:22,

2895:23served [1] - 2843:13serves [1] - 2859:6Service [1] - 2956:20service [1] - 2822:23Services [1] - 2810:22services [3] - 2830:5,

2830:20, 2846:24Sespetes [1] - 2813:17SESSION [1] - 2808:14session [2] - 2866:3, 2867:4sessions [2] - 2819:1,

2875:21set [5] - 2860:21, 2862:5,

2940:6, 2945:15, 2972:8setting [1] - 2944:13settled [1] - 2963:22settlers [1] - 2947:7



21

Seven [1] - 2910:17seven [8] - 2902:4, 2902:5,

2906:15, 2910:18,2913:10, 2913:22, 2914:5

several [1] - 2913:10shall [1] - 2816:20SHANEE [2] - 2811:8,

2860:10Shanee [1] - 2860:12shape [2] - 2837:25, 2838:6share [4] - 2833:8, 2862:22,

2913:13, 2958:11shareholders [2] - 2949:4,

2949:5shares [1] - 2949:7Sharing [1] - 2832:25sharing [4] - 2833:1,

2861:25, 2862:10, 2862:11shoes [1] - 2932:20shoot [1] - 2937:13shooting [1] - 2960:1shop [2] - 2937:4, 2945:8shopping [2] - 2932:10shores [1] - 2889:13short [5] - 2872:7, 2902:24,

2902:25, 2943:22, 2950:9shorthand [1] - 2972:8shortly [1] - 2819:18show [13] - 2834:19,

2834:24, 2835:17,2836:16, 2836:22,2842:13, 2844:5, 2875:20,2875:21, 2941:4, 2944:9,2948:11, 2963:21

showed [5] - 2841:22,2848:20, 2860:18,2860:19, 2925:13

showing [3] - 2836:25,2840:13, 2877:16

shown [2] - 2838:15,2841:24

shows [7] - 2836:18,2836:23, 2840:9, 2860:21,2860:25, 2877:19, 2925:9

shrinks [1] - 2954:4Shuswap [1] - 2942:1shut [5] - 2891:4, 2891:9,

2936:16, 2955:6, 2966:19shy [1] - 2932:1sick [5] - 2923:15, 2923:16,

2923:17, 2956:14, 2964:25side [12] - 2826:16, 2826:17,

2841:25, 2846:1, 2846:21,2861:4, 2879:1, 2879:7,2935:18, 2935:19,2940:15, 2951:10

sides [2] - 2951:1, 2965:21sight [1] - 2906:23sightings [1] - 2879:15sign [3] - 2956:7, 2961:7,

2961:9

signed [1] - 2943:19significance [2] - 2837:18,

2853:16significant [2] - 2833:5,

2852:15significantly [1] - 2828:18similar [4] - 2843:9, 2847:13,

2854:25, 2906:4similarly [1] - 2851:16simple [5] - 2898:14,

2898:16, 2898:19,2900:19, 2910:17

simply [1] - 2824:6sing [1] - 2815:24singing [1] - 2874:9sinuses [1] - 2964:23Sioux [1] - 2940:19sister [1] - 2874:9sit [9] - 2826:16, 2871:3,

2895:1, 2912:8, 2914:10,2918:9, 2930:19, 2940:7,2961:6

site [29] - 2838:12, 2839:9,2839:13, 2840:4, 2840:5,2840:6, 2841:6, 2841:12,2841:13, 2841:17,2841:23, 2842:1, 2842:11,2843:11, 2843:21,2847:13, 2848:20, 2851:5,2852:12, 2852:24, 2853:5,2864:21, 2864:25, 2865:8,2865:9, 2865:13, 2866:6,2867:12, 2877:21

sites [12] - 2864:12, 2864:17,2864:22, 2865:16, 2866:5,2866:14, 2866:16, 2867:8,2867:14, 2867:15, 2936:9,2945:22

sits [3] - 2877:9, 2936:17,2936:22

sitting [7] - 2839:16,2917:18, 2925:6, 2943:2,2944:10, 2962:25, 2963:8

situation [2] - 2850:17,2885:24

situations [1] - 2870:19Six [1] - 2909:19six [8] - 2833:7, 2848:7,

2848:13, 2909:19,2910:13, 2911:5, 2935:21,2966:21

size [6] - 2843:5, 2843:7,2886:13, 2953:24,2953:25, 2954:1

ski [1] - 2895:11skill [1] - 2972:11skipping [1] - 2858:10skulls [1] - 2902:12Sky [1] - 2909:24sky [1] - 2837:5slaughter [1] - 2959:11

slept [1] - 2969:22sliced [2] - 2964:3, 2964:4slide [1] - 2848:21slides [4] - 2834:16,

2853:10, 2859:8, 2859:11sloppy [2] - 2963:2, 2963:6slow [1] - 2962:6slowly [3] - 2908:3, 2955:8,

2965:14small [10] - 2830:7, 2856:23,

2877:23, 2889:17, 2909:3,2919:2, 2925:5, 2955:14,2961:3, 2961:11

smallpox [7] - 2822:14,2866:15, 2866:16, 2939:5,2939:6, 2948:4

smashed [1] - 2964:22SMITH [11] - 2811:13,

2874:24, 2874:25,2875:25, 2876:8, 2876:13,2876:17, 2877:11,2877:25, 2878:21, 2880:1

Smith [3] - 2874:23, 2875:12,2875:13

smudge [2] - 2813:24,2874:7

snare [1] - 2953:4snow [1] - 2964:15snowfall [2] - 2878:2, 2878:5so-called [1] - 2895:18soap [2] - 2932:13, 2934:5social [4] - 2822:23, 2830:5,

2831:18, 2846:24Social [1] - 2881:23society [2] - 2827:3, 2927:4socio [1] - 2846:21socio-economic [1] -

2846:21soil [3] - 2846:11, 2846:12,

2963:22soils [1] - 2846:11sold [3] - 2920:7, 2920:9,

2956:13SOLOMON [12] - 2811:23,

2898:1, 2918:10, 2918:14,2918:15, 2921:11,2925:17, 2925:25, 2926:3,2926:8, 2926:13, 2927:24

Solomon [6] - 2810:11,2897:25, 2918:7, 2918:17,2927:15, 2929:18

someone [1] - 2856:16Something's [1] - 2892:13sometime [1] - 2921:4sometimes [1] - 2909:2somewhere [2] - 2888:22,

2923:3son [3] - 2917:17, 2924:8,

2967:12song [2] - 2815:24, 2874:9sons [1] - 2928:18

soon [1] - 2940:17Sorry [2] - 2913:19, 2968:21sorry [4] - 2852:11, 2898:3,

2901:17, 2913:6sort [3] - 2891:16, 2922:7,

2927:9sounds [2] - 2931:13,

2931:17soup [1] - 2970:1source [2] - 2878:10,

2927:22sources [1] - 2881:18South [3] - 2903:14,

2905:11, 2906:19south [6] - 2875:15, 2880:12,

2909:24, 2931:16,2931:18, 2931:22

southern [2] - 2838:21,2839:12

sow [2] - 2958:18, 2958:19Spagnuolo [2] - 2809:7,

2817:6spawn [1] - 2850:21speaker [8] - 2913:4, 2918:6,

2929:19, 2931:24,2935:10, 2967:21,2969:11, 2970:22

SPEAKER [3] - 2914:10,2935:12, 2939:1

speakers [5] - 2820:12,2941:7, 2950:10, 2950:12,2971:1

speaking [7] - 2819:14,2869:22, 2922:18, 2932:7,2934:6, 2944:6, 2949:24

species [5] - 2846:18,2851:10, 2851:15,2851:18, 2890:24

specific [4] - 2851:12,2851:13, 2861:20, 2863:10

specifically [2] - 2851:17,2865:7

speculate [1] - 2879:19speed [1] - 2879:14spell [1] - 2819:15spelled [1] - 2819:16spend [3] - 2828:11, 2830:4,

2917:24spending [3] - 2828:13,

2828:17, 2829:4spent [5] - 2821:5, 2821:7,

2873:20, 2931:22, 2936:7spill [1] - 2847:24Spirit [1] - 2870:15spirit [9] - 2814:3, 2814:24,

2868:17, 2869:15,2869:16, 2887:19,2902:19, 2905:6, 2905:25

spirits [5] - 2814:1, 2814:2,2868:15, 2902:17, 2909:23

spiritual [6] - 2866:6, 2870:2,



22

2882:2, 2887:18, 2904:21,2906:3

spirituality [1] - 2910:16spiritually [1] - 2890:12spite [1] - 2927:23spoken [6] - 2819:11,

2864:15, 2874:12, 2877:6,2912:25, 2970:14

spoken) [33] - 2834:11,2834:13, 2881:5, 2881:8,2881:12, 2881:16,2881:21, 2882:1, 2882:9,2882:14, 2882:15,2882:16, 2882:17,2882:22, 2883:2, 2883:3,2883:4, 2883:10, 2883:15,2883:23, 2884:3, 2914:15,2914:16, 2914:17,2914:18, 2914:22, 2915:1,2915:9, 2915:13, 2915:17,2915:22, 2916:1, 2916:5

spot [2] - 2861:10, 2961:8Spotted [1] - 2815:8sprays [1] - 2952:4spring [2] - 2890:7, 2942:20spruce [3] - 2961:24, 2962:2,

2962:9square [2] - 2830:9, 2921:14squirrel [1] - 2957:24stabilized [1] - 2841:6staff [1] - 2874:17stage [1] - 2897:20stand [1] - 2895:17standard [1] - 2836:14standards [1] - 2849:12standing [1] - 2815:12Star [1] - 2902:21stars [1] - 2902:21start [12] - 2813:2, 2813:10,

2819:18, 2836:8, 2922:22,2923:7, 2927:25, 2941:8,2941:9, 2955:17, 2960:1,2966:9

started [5] - 2875:5, 2920:1,2937:23, 2958:16, 2969:18

starting [1] - 2950:24state [1] - 2835:1statements [1] - 2823:23States [1] - 2940:21station [4] - 2843:2, 2843:4,

2843:5, 2843:8stay [3] - 2945:8, 2964:23,

2968:2stayed [2] - 2968:1, 2969:21Steel [1] - 2951:9Stephen [1] - 2810:23steroids [4] - 2953:8,

2953:24, 2954:1, 2954:4stick [1] - 2941:16stickers [1] - 2952:1sticking [3] - 2963:23,

2964:3, 2964:5still [30] - 2865:10, 2865:16,

2869:21, 2871:7, 2886:20,2886:22, 2892:7, 2892:12,2893:21, 2902:18,2907:25, 2911:14,2911:21, 2922:9, 2922:10,2922:17, 2924:10,2924:12, 2927:3, 2927:21,2929:7, 2936:17, 2940:12,2941:6, 2942:23, 2943:21,2944:8, 2945:20, 2952:18,2968:14

Stl'atl'imc [5] - 2935:18,2936:5, 2942:2, 2943:5,2943:7

Sto:lo [2] - 2942:3, 2943:13Stone [9] - 2815:13, 2821:19,

2857:24, 2865:15, 2866:4,2878:23, 2889:3, 2923:23,2925:17

stop [3] - 2840:14, 2940:8,2957:16

stopped [1] - 2939:11store [5] - 2931:5, 2937:7,

2953:8, 2954:14, 2954:16stored [2] - 2839:2, 2839:8stores [1] - 2945:9stories [3] - 2887:10, 2888:7straight [1] - 2923:4strain [1] - 2850:16strange [1] - 2958:16stream [1] - 2851:5streams [2] - 2851:6,

2890:25street [1] - 2961:7strength [1] - 2888:1stress [1] - 2888:8stretch [1] - 2926:14strong [8] - 2815:16,

2887:20, 2893:17,2893:18, 2894:2, 2902:14,2905:3, 2906:11

stronger [2] - 2869:9,2953:21

strongly [1] - 2882:5structure [3] - 2838:19,

2843:9, 2877:4struggle [1] - 2908:5struggling [1] - 2907:14stuck [1] - 2896:11studied [2] - 2846:14, 2851:9studies [3] - 2864:11,

2886:11, 2886:12study [6] - 2842:18, 2847:12,

2847:13, 2864:17,2864:21, 2867:2

Study [3] - 2852:23, 2877:6,2947:25

stuff [13] - 2856:13, 2858:15,2866:9, 2883:9, 2930:16,

2937:1, 2951:21, 2953:17,2958:9, 2958:13, 2959:8,2960:5, 2964:5

sturdy [2] - 2876:22, 2877:1subject [1] - 2835:14subscribed [1] - 2972:13subsidies [1] - 2873:23substantial [1] - 2862:19subtract [1] - 2942:6success [2] - 2831:10,

2944:24suffer [2] - 2882:11, 2914:25sufficient [1] - 2856:11sufficiently [1] - 2877:9suggesting [1] - 2859:17suggestion [1] - 2858:24suicides [1] - 2908:1summarizing [1] - 2834:7summer [1] - 2890:7sun [7] - 2814:20, 2903:4,

2903:15, 2904:15,2905:15, 2906:24, 2914:2

Sun [1] - 2902:20supply [2] - 2915:15,

2927:23supplying [1] - 2853:22support [10] - 2822:8,

2822:24, 2824:12,2914:11, 2918:2, 2933:16,2945:2, 2945:4, 2946:4,2970:13

supporting [1] - 2853:22supports [1] - 2849:23supposed [5] - 2920:4,

2920:12, 2920:18,2925:19, 2927:5

surely [1] - 2827:24surface [2] - 2848:16,

2849:15surplus [1] - 2878:19surprised [2] - 2950:22,

2951:20surrendered [1] - 2892:25surrounding [2] - 2826:25,

2852:24survey [1] - 2864:20survive [10] - 2846:9,

2850:22, 2851:7, 2899:13,2899:15, 2899:25, 2930:9,2930:14, 2934:2, 2958:25

survived [2] - 2931:2, 2931:3surviving [2] - 2931:4,

2931:6Susie [4] - 2810:4, 2810:9,

2820:5, 2865:20SUSIE [47] - 2811:15,

2811:21, 2820:6, 2834:6,2834:11, 2844:5, 2844:10,2844:13, 2844:15,2844:17, 2845:2, 2856:12,2856:16, 2856:18,

2865:24, 2866:20,2867:21, 2880:25, 2881:1,2881:6, 2881:9, 2881:13,2881:17, 2881:22, 2882:2,2882:10, 2882:15,2882:19, 2882:23, 2883:3,2883:5, 2883:11, 2883:16,2883:24, 2884:4, 2901:13,2914:14, 2914:15,2914:18, 2914:23, 2915:2,2915:10, 2915:14,2915:18, 2915:23, 2916:2,2916:5

suspected [1] - 2865:7sustain [1] - 2850:18sustainability [2] - 2828:19,

2828:23sustainable [1] - 2854:21sustaining [1] - 2850:19swapped [3] - 2921:24,

2921:25, 2922:1sweat [4] - 2904:5, 2905:17,

2907:4, 2913:24sweep [1] - 2965:3swim [2] - 2846:4, 2922:11swimming [1] - 2922:7switching [4] - 2843:1,

2843:4, 2843:5, 2843:8system [6] - 2849:8, 2875:8,

2884:23, 2886:7, 2889:11,2889:17

table [4] - 2857:1, 2921:4,2964:10, 2964:12

tabled [1] - 2857:17tach [1] - 2916:11tailing [2] - 2936:12, 2936:17tailings [16] - 2837:25,

2838:2, 2838:18, 2838:23,2839:3, 2839:4, 2839:5,2839:19, 2840:15,2840:19, 2840:20, 2841:7,2878:2, 2936:20, 2937:14,2945:18

tanks [1] - 2963:20tans [1] - 2934:7tap [1] - 2921:8Taps [1] - 2934:17targets [1] - 2854:19Taseko [51] - 2809:13,

2816:8, 2817:14, 2818:15,2819:18, 2819:20,2819:25, 2820:17,2820:19, 2821:1, 2821:4,2821:11, 2827:23,2832:11, 2836:4, 2837:6,2837:8, 2837:9, 2840:5,2840:18, 2841:19,2841:20, 2842:2, 2842:5,2843:10, 2844:25,2845:12, 2849:1, 2852:3,2855:20, 2857:19, 2858:2,



23

2858:11, 2858:19, 2859:1,2859:25, 2860:8, 2860:15,2864:10, 2866:13, 2868:4,2871:21, 2872:2, 2874:21,2875:3, 2875:4, 2875:14,2875:17, 2897:9, 2925:24,2968:7

TASEKO [10] - 2811:6,2811:8, 2811:9, 2811:13,2811:19, 2820:21,2860:10, 2864:8, 2874:24,2913:7

Taseko's [3] - 2817:12,2867:1, 2872:9

task [1] - 2908:14taught [3] - 2903:20,

2903:21, 2905:8tax [6] - 2833:1, 2833:3,

2833:8, 2862:10, 2862:15,2956:24

taxes [3] - 2862:13, 2924:10,2927:8

teach [3] - 2870:22, 2907:22,2928:9

Teach [1] - 2907:23teaches [2] - 2933:8, 2933:9teaching [2] - 2900:15,

2970:18technical [2] - 2835:15,

2867:3technology [2] - 2824:13,

2966:24temporarily [1] - 2839:13temporary [1] - 2850:5ten [2] - 2928:4, 2970:9Ten [1] - 2902:11TERESA [2] - 2811:22,

2916:8Teresa [5] - 2810:10,

2901:15, 2913:4, 2916:7,2916:9

term [3] - 2899:22, 2940:6,2946:15

Terms [1] - 2845:20terms [9] - 2819:17, 2836:2,

2842:19, 2846:4, 2862:4,2863:1, 2863:20, 2863:21,2864:4

terrain [1] - 2846:10territories [9] - 2887:21,

2891:16, 2891:19, 2892:2,2892:16, 2892:23, 2893:6,2893:8, 2936:5

territory [19] - 2813:6,2816:6, 2847:3, 2860:22,2860:23, 2861:3, 2885:6,2892:15, 2892:23, 2893:3,2895:15, 2899:2, 2908:7,2917:6, 2918:23, 2937:21,2937:22, 2940:18, 2949:25

testing [2] - 2875:4, 2875:25

tests [1] - 2956:4text [1] - 2857:10Teztan [9] - 2844:14,

2849:18, 2849:22, 2850:3,2858:4, 2864:10, 2864:12,2864:23, 2868:7

thankful [1] - 2862:5THE [69] - 2808:8, 2811:5,

2811:24, 2812:2, 2812:7,2813:1, 2816:2, 2820:7,2834:12, 2844:1, 2844:7,2844:20, 2844:25, 2856:8,2856:17, 2856:20,2858:23, 2859:15, 2860:5,2864:7, 2865:19, 2866:2,2866:19, 2866:22, 2867:9,2867:20, 2867:23,2871:25, 2873:24,2874:16, 2875:10, 2880:2,2880:14, 2880:23, 2881:4,2882:21, 2884:6, 2884:13,2897:7, 2897:23, 2898:2,2901:7, 2901:14, 2913:1,2914:7, 2916:3, 2916:6,2918:5, 2918:12, 2921:9,2927:14, 2927:15,2929:18, 2931:9, 2931:10,2931:21, 2932:1, 2935:2,2935:7, 2935:13, 2950:7,2950:12, 2967:20,2968:13, 2968:14,2968:17, 2968:20,2969:10, 2970:15

theft [1] - 2895:2themes [1] - 2834:17themselves [1] - 2815:18There'll [1] - 2843:9thereafter [1] - 2972:9therefore [5] - 2850:12,

2865:3, 2951:18, 2966:15,2970:13

Theresa [4] - 2810:8, 2914:8,2934:6, 2968:1

THERESA [2] - 2811:20,2914:13

they've [1] - 2868:22thief [1] - 2895:1thieves [1] - 2897:2thin [1] - 2897:4think.. [1] - 2886:19thinking [4] - 2831:5,

2932:11, 2949:14, 2949:18thinks [1] - 2883:17third [4] - 2819:5, 2821:16,

2835:23, 2873:15Third [1] - 2941:2this" [1] - 2947:21Thompson [2] - 2936:23,

2942:2thoughts [1] - 2854:15thousand [3] - 2939:19,

2949:24, 2954:21thousands [1] - 2887:10three [21] - 2818:2, 2834:17,

2841:3, 2841:9, 2843:18,2870:3, 2870:4, 2877:11,2878:16, 2878:19, 2902:9,2913:23, 2914:2, 2917:19,2928:5, 2954:1, 2955:5,2961:18, 2961:20, 2961:25

Three [1] - 2956:2THROUGH [2] - 2811:21,

2914:13throughout [6] - 2837:24,

2861:13, 2861:18,2870:20, 2872:17, 2876:4

Throughout [1] - 2841:18throw [1] - 2912:12throwing [1] - 2919:22Thunder [2] - 2815:7,

2909:20tiny [2] - 2907:10tired [2] - 2880:21, 2891:8Title [2] - 2894:12, 2894:15Tl'esqox [10] - 2808:23,

2813:7, 2816:5, 2816:10,2860:12, 2898:11, 2918:3,2918:4, 2929:22

TNG [1] - 2942:25TO [3] - 2808:7, 2812:11,

2971:7tobacco [2] - 2813:25,

2910:15today [50] - 2816:7, 2819:17,

2819:22, 2820:3, 2820:15,2821:2, 2821:19, 2829:21,2835:25, 2838:15, 2848:5,2848:8, 2869:1, 2872:25,2873:22, 2874:18,2884:11, 2885:21, 2886:7,2886:9, 2889:14, 2892:12,2893:4, 2893:21, 2895:10,2896:24, 2897:3, 2897:14,2898:17, 2907:2, 2922:10,2922:18, 2924:18,2924:20, 2932:9, 2932:18,2932:24, 2934:3, 2934:16,2935:24, 2937:13,2940:12, 2941:3, 2941:16,2944:23, 2949:18,2967:21, 2968:15,2970:22, 2971:2

Today [2] - 2823:19, 2907:25together [3] - 2824:11,

2877:20, 2932:21tomorrow [12] - 2816:16,

2819:23, 2819:24,2820:15, 2823:19,2884:12, 2897:14,2901:13, 2933:19,2935:14, 2970:25, 2971:2

Tonya [1] - 2917:1

took [8] - 2916:24, 2920:8,2920:9, 2920:23, 2924:8,2945:22, 2963:19, 2965:22

Toosey [18] - 2808:23,2813:7, 2820:23, 2821:19,2831:7, 2831:22, 2833:12,2844:17, 2844:19,2880:10, 2884:20,2898:11, 2915:25,2918:17, 2929:22, 2932:4,2968:3, 2969:16

top [9] - 2815:3, 2837:9,2838:13, 2838:14,2869:23, 2897:2, 2904:10,2962:13, 2969:7

top-down [1] - 2838:13total [3] - 2828:13, 2846:17,

2914:5totally [2] - 2955:4, 2957:25totals [1] - 2830:11touch [1] - 2916:19tourism [1] - 2822:10towards [1] - 2921:19town [13] - 2829:8, 2945:3,

2951:9, 2951:11, 2955:16,2957:5, 2957:7, 2959:5,2959:8, 2959:20, 2961:2,2961:3, 2966:8

toxicating [1] - 2942:13toxins [2] - 2942:5trace [1] - 2876:6track [1] - 2857:16trade [1] - 2908:9Tradition [1] - 2930:14tradition [2] - 2887:11,

2930:13traditional [13] - 2813:18,

2816:6, 2836:13, 2851:19,2853:17, 2873:1, 2882:5,2931:14, 2932:12,2932:25, 2933:24,2970:19, 2971:4

traffic [6] - 2842:18, 2876:19,2876:21, 2877:10, 2957:3,2957:18

trail [2] - 2938:23, 2947:24train [1] - 2842:14training [7] - 2832:22,

2854:12, 2873:13,2879:13, 2885:7, 2921:13,2921:17

transcribed [1] - 2972:9transcript [2] - 2819:10,

2972:10transit [1] - 2847:9translate [4] - 2858:13,

2858:18, 2859:11, 2860:2translated [2] - 2858:16,

2859:21translating [1] - 2834:4TRANSLATION [6] -



24

2844:12, 2844:16,2856:19, 2865:25,2866:21, 2867:22

translator [2] - 2858:18,2859:12

transmission [15] - 2841:15,2841:17, 2841:24, 2843:1,2843:12, 2843:16,2844:21, 2846:16,2847:14, 2860:25, 2861:5,2877:21, 2880:9, 2880:12,2897:16

Transmission [1] - 2843:6transparent [1] - 2824:24Transport [1] - 2817:25transport [1] - 2847:23trap [3] - 2957:24, 2957:25,

2968:24trapped [1] - 2968:24trapping [4] - 2822:9,

2847:3, 2968:6, 2968:9travel [4] - 2842:23, 2902:18,

2917:23, 2917:25travelled [3] - 2917:10,

2917:22, 2930:3travelling [2] - 2842:12,

2879:4treat [1] - 2837:22treaties [2] - 2892:22,

2940:23treaty [2] - 2940:17, 2943:18tree [5] - 2835:3, 2835:7,

2868:20, 2952:24, 2969:23trees [23] - 2868:16, 2868:24,

2869:14, 2871:6, 2894:19,2905:22, 2911:9, 2911:10,2911:20, 2918:25, 2925:1,2925:2, 2930:6, 2952:6,2952:9, 2952:10, 2952:15,2952:16, 2962:13, 2965:5,2965:9, 2965:13

tribe [3] - 2944:8, 2948:7,2948:8

tribes [2] - 2941:24, 2943:23trickled [1] - 2955:8tried [10] - 2860:16, 2902:12,

2902:14, 2926:23,2926:24, 2926:25, 2929:3,2938:23, 2944:17, 2948:16

trip [1] - 2926:4trouble [1] - 2848:8trout [1] - 2850:20truck [3] - 2842:15, 2847:23,

2945:7truck" [1] - 2842:14Trucking [1] - 2959:12trucks [12] - 2842:19,

2868:25, 2876:23,2876:24, 2877:1, 2891:6,2911:12, 2957:9, 2957:11,2957:12

true [8] - 2824:6, 2868:14,2871:4, 2871:9, 2899:9,2899:11, 2957:12, 2972:9

Trust [1] - 2940:13trust [4] - 2929:10, 2937:16,

2940:13, 2948:14truth [2] - 2885:22, 2946:7truthful [1] - 2913:17try [7] - 2834:17, 2859:13,

2910:18, 2927:3, 2928:4,2933:19, 2956:20

trying [5] - 2856:12, 2858:4,2888:14, 2894:13, 2957:4

Tsilhqot'in [21] - 2813:6,2816:5, 2858:3, 2858:13,2859:23, 2860:13,2861:17, 2868:6, 2884:22,2886:15, 2886:25, 2887:8,2889:2, 2889:15, 2891:14,2891:19, 2891:23, 2894:9,2912:9, 2916:10, 2942:7

turkey [1] - 2929:14turn [9] - 2813:3, 2814:2,

2818:7, 2820:16, 2833:22,2838:25, 2922:20,2934:17, 2959:19

turned [2] - 2941:1, 2941:6turns [2] - 2879:20, 2954:3TV [3] - 2946:21, 2955:23,

2955:24two [24] - 2827:8, 2828:5,

2833:19, 2843:18,2853:10, 2854:15,2855:21, 2868:3, 2873:3,2878:22, 2914:1, 2918:24,2924:23, 2928:5, 2928:18,2936:10, 2937:20,2950:12, 2950:20, 2952:8,2956:1, 2956:7, 2956:22,2961:2

Two [1] - 2935:22two-year [1] - 2828:5type [3] - 2891:12, 2892:20,

2895:15types [1] - 2885:2typical [2] - 2842:14, 2843:3ultimately [3] - 2841:5,

2850:8, 2851:23unavoidable [2] - 2850:2,

2850:5uncle [7] - 2923:24, 2924:7,

2969:18, 2969:21, 2970:6,2970:10, 2970:18

Uncle [1] - 2902:20uncle's [1] - 2970:8under [6] - 2815:7, 2836:5,

2853:2, 2864:4, 2865:1,2943:21

underground [2] - 2845:25,2906:23

understood [2] - 2913:11,

2920:6undertake [1] - 2847:13undertaken [1] - 2836:24undertaking [1] - 2835:10undertook [3] - 2847:12,

2852:21, 2864:19underwater [1] - 2839:8underway [1] - 2813:12unemployment [1] - 2822:22unfortunate [1] - 2870:19unfortunately [1] - 2839:17Unfortunately [2] - 2816:13,

2934:22Union [1] - 2951:9unique [1] - 2848:21universe [2] - 2814:13,

2904:3unpacking [1] - 2816:14up [92] - 2820:1, 2824:17,

2825:3, 2825:13, 2837:9,2838:14, 2844:8, 2848:2,2856:22, 2862:15,2876:19, 2877:23,2878:23, 2891:1, 2891:17,2891:19, 2892:24, 2893:4,2903:3, 2906:20, 2906:21,2907:24, 2910:6, 2910:12,2910:19, 2911:1, 2912:18,2912:19, 2916:19,2916:21, 2917:13, 2918:7,2918:21, 2919:19,2920:13, 2922:6, 2922:22,2923:7, 2923:10, 2923:24,2925:5, 2926:4, 2927:25,2928:18, 2929:2, 2930:1,2930:21, 2934:22, 2936:2,2936:19, 2936:22,2937:11, 2937:19,2938:24, 2941:7, 2941:9,2941:19, 2943:2, 2943:7,2944:11, 2945:15,2945:23, 2945:24,2947:10, 2950:3, 2952:16,2953:4, 2953:6, 2954:11,2955:5, 2955:13, 2955:16,2956:7, 2961:9, 2961:17,2963:5, 2963:6, 2963:8,2963:10, 2963:20,2963:23, 2964:1, 2964:3,2964:5, 2964:10, 2964:11,2965:5, 2968:6, 2968:7,2968:9

upcoming [1] - 2867:3upgrade [1] - 2876:25upper [1] - 2840:3upstream [2] - 2838:17,

2875:17useless [1] - 2909:13users [1] - 2847:1utilize [2] - 2842:2, 2851:2utilizing [1] - 2851:19

utmost [1] - 2895:4VALERIE [2] - 2812:3,

2931:25Valerie [4] - 2810:13,

2931:24, 2932:3, 2935:5Valley [3] - 2901:25, 2940:9,

2950:4valley [2] - 2923:4, 2926:16value [7] - 2823:12, 2827:3,

2827:12, 2830:16,2830:23, 2853:16, 2947:12

values [11] - 2870:13,2902:4, 2906:3, 2906:15,2907:12, 2907:19,2907:23, 2908:23,2910:17, 2913:14, 2913:22

values" [1] - 2913:10van [1] - 2970:8Vancouver [8] - 2823:14,

2921:25, 2922:1, 2952:13,2964:22, 2964:23, 2965:3,2965:9

various [4] - 2818:11,2842:20, 2853:23, 2879:14

vast [1] - 2830:14vastly [1] - 2835:21vegetables [1] - 2937:7vegetarian [2] - 2953:19,

2954:24vegetarians [1] - 2953:21vegetation [2] - 2840:21,

2846:14vehicle [1] - 2957:14vehicles [4] - 2842:19,

2842:20, 2842:23, 2879:14viable [1] - 2826:15Vice [1] - 2821:1Vice-President [1] - 2821:1vicinity [3] - 2838:11,

2845:11, 2846:15Victoria [1] - 2916:17video [1] - 2858:7view [4] - 2838:13, 2858:3,

2889:8viewed [2] - 2854:22,

2908:16views [2] - 2857:24, 2901:10village [1] - 2877:14violence [1] - 2908:1vision [6] - 2903:13,

2903:15, 2905:12,2906:25, 2910:20, 2914:1

voices [1] - 2910:2Volume [3] - 2808:16,

2876:14, 2876:15volume [1] - 2876:13wage [2] - 2927:5, 2966:5wait [1] - 2894:18waiting [1] - 2954:7Wakantonka [2] - 2903:22,

2906:13



25

walk [2] - 2814:25, 2962:12walked [2] - 2941:3, 2944:13walking [4] - 2838:3, 2897:4,

2910:18, 2916:20Walking [1] - 2815:7Walks [1] - 2815:7wall [2] - 2870:11, 2877:19wander [1] - 2906:1wants [2] - 2881:3, 2916:2war [3] - 2893:1, 2893:2,

2922:6War [1] - 2822:13warden [3] - 2959:4,

2959:17, 2959:21warfare [1] - 2893:12warrior [1] - 2883:25waste [3] - 2953:7, 2962:18,

2963:9watch [2] - 2825:11, 2882:10watched [1] - 2930:1watching [2] - 2911:4,

2959:10Water [3] - 2842:5, 2876:15,

2878:15water [108] - 2814:16,

2815:3, 2837:4, 2837:20,2837:22, 2837:23, 2839:6,2840:3, 2840:4, 2840:14,2840:16, 2845:24,2845:25, 2846:2, 2846:3,2846:4, 2846:7, 2848:15,2848:16, 2848:17,2848:22, 2848:25,2849:15, 2869:23,2869:24, 2875:2, 2875:4,2875:14, 2875:16,2875:18, 2875:23, 2876:6,2878:3, 2878:7, 2878:10,2878:14, 2878:19,2878:20, 2885:10,2888:12, 2903:17,2904:10, 2904:11, 2909:7,2909:9, 2909:11, 2909:12,2909:13, 2909:16,2909:21, 2917:11,2917:12, 2917:14, 2919:5,2919:6, 2919:7, 2919:12,2919:21, 2919:23,2919:24, 2920:2, 2920:3,2920:7, 2920:16, 2921:5,2921:7, 2922:17, 2922:19,2923:1, 2923:2, 2923:6,2923:8, 2923:13, 2924:2,2924:5, 2927:20, 2927:23,2936:22, 2937:14, 2942:7,2942:13, 2942:17, 2943:4,2943:14, 2945:3, 2948:22,2952:9, 2954:4, 2954:5,2955:11, 2956:4, 2956:6,2960:7, 2960:8, 2960:9,2960:17, 2960:18,2964:13, 2964:17,

2965:13, 2965:17, 2969:7water's [4] - 2921:2,

2942:21, 2944:22, 2956:8waters [5] - 2849:9, 2887:15,

2888:2, 2888:6, 2922:10watershed [5] - 2837:3,

2837:13, 2837:21, 2840:4,2941:19

ways [18] - 2835:19, 2856:3,2878:7, 2885:15, 2885:18,2887:25, 2893:19,2903:18, 2906:5, 2906:20,2911:3, 2911:5, 2921:11,2924:24, 2931:14,2944:25, 2968:11, 2970:19

WCB [5] - 2951:8, 2966:3,2966:14, 2966:20, 2967:1

weak [1] - 2905:3wealth [7] - 2823:10,

2827:20, 2889:4, 2889:5,2889:7, 2889:9, 2889:22

weather [1] - 2890:10week [3] - 2821:16, 2859:9,

2912:21week's [1] - 2934:3weeks [3] - 2833:21,

2876:21, 2964:24welcome [3] - 2813:6,

2816:9, 2917:5well-being [1] - 2831:21west [2] - 2838:20, 2909:20wet [1] - 2878:14whatnot [1] - 2894:19wheel [15] - 2814:8, 2814:11,

2814:12, 2814:14,2814:18, 2870:5, 2870:10,2870:12, 2904:19,2904:25, 2905:4, 2908:12

WHEREOF [1] - 2972:13whichever [1] - 2887:16white [3] - 2836:22, 2838:9,

2844:10White [14] - 2815:9, 2842:5,

2870:7, 2901:22, 2902:10,2903:10, 2906:2, 2906:7,2927:4, 2932:12, 2932:15,2951:1, 2951:4, 2965:23

whole [15] - 2832:5, 2845:7,2858:3, 2872:17, 2885:23,2886:6, 2886:21, 2886:23,2887:3, 2896:23, 2957:13,2958:16, 2962:16, 2970:3

wide [8] - 2843:20, 2925:10,2925:14, 2925:16, 2926:6,2928:22, 2945:19, 2957:14

wider [1] - 2926:15wife [2] - 2905:12, 2935:20Wild [1] - 2964:3wild [4] - 2934:5, 2951:20,

2955:14, 2958:9wildlife [13] - 2840:24,

2846:18, 2851:8, 2851:10,2851:15, 2879:15,2879:17, 2930:7, 2931:1,2958:10, 2958:11,2958:12, 2962:14

WILLIAM [4] - 2812:6,2844:14, 2882:16, 2967:23

William [7] - 2810:16,2816:4, 2851:11, 2851:16,2950:14, 2967:22, 2967:24

WILLIAMS [1] - 2914:16Williams [19] - 2815:19,

2815:21, 2816:15,2818:20, 2819:1, 2821:18,2842:3, 2863:8, 2863:13,2879:4, 2911:14, 2917:18,2923:8, 2932:11, 2932:14,2945:4, 2951:24, 2964:24,2965:4

willing [2] - 2947:15,2948:21

willow [1] - 2813:25wind [1] - 2910:3windbreak [1] - 2964:21winds [1] - 2964:20winged [4] - 2815:2,

2869:22, 2904:9, 2905:5winners [1] - 2829:20winter [2] - 2890:7, 2959:3wintertime [2] - 2881:14,

2967:14wipe [1] - 2967:11wiped [1] - 2959:2wire [4] - 2953:4, 2953:6,

2962:20, 2964:5Wisdom [1] - 2913:18wish [4] - 2826:9, 2859:2,

2884:9, 2884:15wishes [2] - 2855:11, 2860:8WITNESS [1] - 2972:13witness [1] - 2936:12Woman [2] - 2815:10, 2906:8woman [3] - 2900:13,

2906:7, 2906:11women [3] - 2932:17,

2953:16wonder [5] - 2844:1,

2868:23, 2896:24,2931:12, 2931:15

wondered [5] - 2875:9,2876:17, 2876:22, 2879:6,2948:4

wondering [6] - 2868:5,2875:3, 2878:6, 2883:11,2914:19, 2921:9

wood [1] - 2952:19wood) [1] - 2934:17word [2] - 2819:11, 2893:11words [1] - 2819:10worker [1] - 2966:23Workers [1] - 2951:9

workers [5] - 2828:4, 2855:8,2911:17, 2945:5, 2967:4

World [1] - 2941:2world [6] - 2814:3, 2845:14,

2889:14, 2895:16, 2904:9,2967:7

world's [1] - 2949:18worldwide [2] - 2917:22,

2917:25worried [3] - 2883:7,

2936:19, 2941:20worry [2] - 2941:18, 2944:20worse [1] - 2964:6worth [4] - 2827:5, 2876:12,

2939:22, 2952:20wounded [1] - 2959:18Wow [1] - 2917:2writing [1] - 2941:9written [3] - 2819:11,

2857:10, 2887:11wrote [1] - 2906:6Xeni [18] - 2815:20, 2815:22,

2819:4, 2852:9, 2868:8,2872:6, 2894:8, 2894:9,2898:24, 2901:25,2916:16, 2916:23,2916:25, 2917:1, 2918:2,2923:23, 2933:16, 2970:13

yard [4] - 2949:9, 2954:21,2959:7, 2959:11

yards [3] - 2938:20, 2959:6,2959:8

year [21] - 2828:5, 2828:10,2876:18, 2890:6, 2904:15,2920:8, 2921:23, 2922:20,2924:3, 2924:10, 2924:13,2934:8, 2942:21, 2954:22,2956:20, 2958:3, 2960:14,2964:15, 2964:18, 2964:19

year-round [2] - 2934:8,2942:21

years [61] - 2821:5, 2821:7,2828:8, 2829:3, 2835:10,2840:16, 2842:22, 2871:5,2876:10, 2876:11, 2878:8,2884:25, 2885:1, 2886:2,2886:9, 2887:10, 2890:6,2890:21, 2891:3, 2892:11,2896:12, 2899:5, 2899:6,2899:22, 2899:24,2900:17, 2901:3, 2906:22,2909:12, 2911:9, 2911:20,2911:24, 2915:15,2920:23, 2924:8, 2930:1,2933:5, 2933:18, 2936:16,2939:21, 2939:24,2945:11, 2945:12, 2946:2,2947:19, 2951:8, 2952:25,2955:6, 2956:2, 2956:7,2958:8, 2963:4, 2963:5,2966:22, 2967:9, 2969:17,



26

2969:18, 2969:19, 2969:20years' [1] - 2876:12Yellow [2] - 2870:7, 2903:10yellow [2] - 2837:2, 2843:4yesterday [3] - 2857:7,

2889:4, 2932:10Yesterday [1] - 2877:25yesterday's [2] - 2865:14,

2866:3young [5] - 2899:4, 2951:16,

2953:16, 2956:21, 2960:14younger [1] - 2907:22youngest [2] - 2937:20,

2969:13yourselves [3] - 2818:23,

2820:19, 2932:19youth [1] - 2930:17Yunesit'in [4] - 2819:4,

2857:8, 2857:23, 2865:15zone [1] - 2956:18

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