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National Fire Protection Association
1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471
Phone: 617-770-3000 • Fax: 617-770-0700 • www.nfpa.org
M E M O R A N D U M
TO: NFPA Technical Committee on Fixed Guideway Transit and Passenger Rail Systems
FROM: Elena Carroll, Administrator, Technical Projects
DATE: February 12, 2015
SUBJECT: NFPA 130 FD TC Ballot Circulation (A2016 cycle)
The February 11, 2015 date for receipt of the NFPA 130 First Draft ballot has passed.
The preliminary First Draft ballot results are shown on the attached report.
29 Members Eligible to Vote
3 Ballots Not Returned (Grizard, Mao, Weng)
In accordance with the NFPA Regulations Governing the Development of NFPA Standards,
attached are reasons for negative votes for review so you may change your ballot if you wish.
Abstentions and affirmative comments are also included. Ballots received from alternate members
are not included unless the ballot from the principal member was not received.
If you wish to change your vote, the change must be received at NFPA on or February 19, 2015.
Members who have not returned a ballot may do so now. Such changes should be submitted
through the NFPA Vote.net Ballot Site.
The return of ballots is required by the Regulations Governing the Development of NFPA
Standards.
NFPA 130 (A2016) FKT-AAA First Draft Ballot Circulation Report
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 26
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 25
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 1
Harold A. Locke
In the 2014 edition, this term is used only once in the text (12.5.1). Rather that include this definition, the
term should be deleted in 12.5.1 as it is unnecessary.
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 26
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
TRUE
FR-1, Section No. 3.3.6, See FR-1
TRUE
FR-45, New Section after 3.3.5, See FR-45
Results by Revision
TRUE
FR-39, Chapter 2, See FR-39
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 26
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 26
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 23
Affirmative with Comment 2
Pierre Laurin Affirmative for definitions of decibel and dBa, definition for dBz may not be required, subject to FR-38
Jarrod Alston This definition will only become necessary if FR 38 is approved.
Negative 1
Harold A. Locke
This term relates only to proposed Annex material and, if needed, should be located there (similar to
references).
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 24
Affirmative with Comment 1
John F. Devlin
I believe the intent of these changes not fully realized because the term "design fire scenario" is not
defined. Accordingly, I recommend adding the definition "Design Fire Scenario: A fire scenario selected for
evaluation of a proposed design". This definition from NFPA Glossary of Terms.
Negative 1
Harold A. Locke These terms relate only to Annex material and should be located there (similar to references).
Abstain 0
TRUE
FR-57, New Section after 3.3.20.2, See FR-57
TRUE
FR-52, New Section after 3.3.13, See FR-52
TRUE
FR-50, Section No. 3.3.11, See FR-50
TRUE
FR-61, Section No. 3.3.9, See FR-61
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 25
Affirmative with Comment 1
Harold A. Locke
The revised language is acceptable, but this term relates only to Annex material and should be re-located
there (similar to references).
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 25
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 1
John F. Devlin See comments to FR-3.
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 25
Affirmative with Comment 1
Harold A. Locke
Revise to delete the words 'fixed guideway transit and passenger rail' before 'system', which is a defined
term in NFPA 130 that already includes those descriptors. Consider including 'trainway' to tie the terms
together while explaining the differentiation between the two terms.
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 24
Affirmative with Comment 2
Luc Martineau KW must be added at the ehd of this FR
Harold A. Locke
This change in terminology should be reconciled with the use of 'heat release rate' elsewhere in the text
(e.g., Chapter 5). Also, the sub-definitions are not used in the text and should therefore be deleted or
moved to an Annex if they are used there.
Negative 0
Abstain 0
TRUE
FR-7, Section No. 3.3.27.2, See FR-7
TRUE
FR-5, Section No. 3.3.24, See FR-5
TRUE
FR-4, New Section after 3.3.23, See FR-4
TRUE
FR-6, Section No. 3.3.21, See FR-6
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 23
Affirmative with Comment 2
Pierre Laurin May not be required , subject to FR-38
Jarrod Alston This definition will only become necessary if FR 38 is approved.
Negative 1
Harold A. Locke
This term relates only to proposed Annex material and, if needed, should be located there (similar to
references).
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 26
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 23
Affirmative with Comment 2
Pierre Laurin May not be required , subject to FR-38
Jarrod Alston This definition will only become necessary if FR 38 is approved.
Negative 1
Harold A. Locke
This term relates only to proposed Annex material and, if needed, should be located there (similar to
references).
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 25
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 1
Harold A. Locke This term relates only to Annex material and, if needed, should be located there (similar to references).
Abstain 0
TRUE
FR-59, New Section after 3.3.41, See FR-59
TRUE
FR-54, New Section after 3.3.41, See FR-54
TRUE
FR-58, New Section after 3.3.40, See FR-58
TRUE
FR-53, New Section after 3.3.28, See FR-53
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 25
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 1
Harold A. Locke This term relates only to Annex material and, if needed, should be located there (similar to references).
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 24
Affirmative with Comment 1
Harold A. Locke
The revisions are acceptable, but this term relates only to Annex material and should be re-located there
(similar to references).
Negative 1
Pierre Laurin Refer to FR-43
Abstain 0
TRUE
FR-8, Section No. 3.3.42, See FR-8
TRUE
FR-60, New Section after 3.3.41, See FR-60
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 23
Affirmative with Comment 2
Pierre Laurin May not be required , subject to FR-38
Jarrod Alston This definition will only become necessary if FR 38 is approved.
Negative 1
Harold A. Locke
This term relates only to proposed Annex material and, if needed, should be located there (similar to
references).
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 26
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 23
Affirmative with Comment 2
Pierre Laurin May not be required , subject to FR-38
Jarrod Alston
This definition will only become necessary if FR 38 is approved. Also, the wording 'Time Weighted Average'
has wider application and usage than just pertaining to sound levels.
Negative 1
Harold A. Locke
This term relates only to proposed Annex material and, if needed, should be located there (similar to
references).
Abstain 0
TRUE
FR-56, New Section after 3.3.48, See FR-56
TRUE
FR-2, Section No. 3.3.46, See FR-2
TRUE
FR-55, New Section after 3.3.43, See FR-55
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 26
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 26
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 23
Affirmative with Comment 3
Neil E. Nott
Regarding Committee Statement #6, it would seem to be an overstatement, and ultimately false
assumption, that the other materials are "never" covered.
Richard D. Peacock Reference in item (1) is listed as section 4.7. In balloted draft, it should be section 4.6
Jarrod Alston
The concept of providing multiple material testing criteria for interior finish materials is appropriate and
generally consistent with the building industry. However, the order of criteria is not consistent with that
found in the IBC or similar wherein the base test protocol is ASTM E84 with NFPA 286 as an acceptable
alternative test method with specific acceptance criteria.
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 23
Affirmative with Comment 2
Jarrod Alston The word 'appropriate' should be removed from 5.3.3.3 unless 'appropriate' is classified and defined.
TRUE
FR-43, Sections 5.3.3.3, 5.3.3.4, See FR-43
TRUE
FR-25, Section No. 5.2.5.1, See FR-25
TRUE
FR-82, Section No. 5.2.4.1, See FR-82
TRUE
FR-9, New Section after 4.3.3, See FR-9
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Harold A. Locke
Add Annex A examples that encapsulate previous information (e.g., "In an aboveground station where the
platform is above the concourse, that concourse would usually constitute a point of safety. For
underground stations where a mechanical smoke control system impedes the spread of fire effects to the
concourse, that concourse would usually constitute a point of safety.")
Negative 1
Pierre Laurin
The proposed change is interpreted to mean that distance, geometry, fire separation or a fire ventilation
system, with no confirmation by engineering analysis, are sufficient to define a concourse as a point of
safety. Unless a station meets the definition of an Open Station, an engineering analysis shall be required,
particularly if the concourse is not below platform level. For enclosed stations, the engineering analysis
needs to confirm that the ventilation system provides protection.
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 26
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
TRUE
FR-14, Section No. 5.3.9, See FR-14
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 24
Affirmative with Comment 2
Thomas P. Kenny
The added annex language conflicts with the requirements of the American Disability Act Accessibility
Guidelines (ADAAG) which does not have a minimum height requirement before tactile warning must be
installed along the trainway side of platforms. Recommend Annex A.5.3.10 be rewritten as follows:
A.5.3.10 tactile and visual warning should be provided along the trainway side of except where such edges
are protected by platform edge screens or doors.
Harold A. Locke
"Acceptable except: - The new asterix after 5.3.10 should be underlined to indicate new annex A material,
and - The 'Response Message' should include reference to PI 108 as well as 106 & 111."
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 24
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 2
John F. Devlin
NFPA 72 is an application, installation, testing and maintenance standard. NFPA 72 does not define "what
is needed" but rather defines how is shall be applied and installed. If the committee believes a fire alarm
system shall be provided in an open station then the committee must define the system design: "what"
fire alarm initiating devices and alarm indicating appliances shall be provided and "where" they shall be
provided.
Harold A. Locke
This requirement does not provide sufficient direction for the numerous variations in systems and
stations. It would be preferable to develop annex language to indicate the intent of the TC.
Abstain 0
TRUE
FR-41, Section No. 5.4.2.1, See FR-41
TRUE
FR-13, Section No. 5.3.10, See FR-13
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 26
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 25
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 1
John F. Devlin
I understand the intent of the proposed change however I do not believe the revised wording improves or
provides clarity to the intent of the current language in the standard. Also, proposed the revisions to
6.1.2.2 are more appropriate in Chapter 9.
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 26
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
TRUE
FR-16, Section No. 6.2.7, See FR-16
TRUE
FR-80, Section No. 6.1.2, See FR-80
TRUE
FR-62, Section No. 5.4.3, See FR-62
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 24
Affirmative with Comment 1
Harold A. Locke
Revise Sentence 1 to read "6.2.9.1 The use of green track shall be permitted where the type and design
has been approved." Delete 6.2.9.2. (not enforceable as no parameters are provided to judge acceptance).
Negative 1
John F. Devlin
I appreciate the intent of the code change however specifically requiring green track design to include a
fire hazard analysis implies that green track design is a fire hazard. This does not seem reasonable. I
believe the standard does now provide the authority having jurisdiction latitude in requiring the design
team demonstrate a proposed system design, be considered non-typical at the time, provides a
reasonable degree of fire safety for the system's intended performance.
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 25
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 1
John F. Devlin
Section 6.2.8.1 clearly state the intent of the requirement for Section 6.2.8 apply to "Rail ties used in
enclosed locations". Specifying materials a transit agency can must use when the material construction
does not affect fire and life safety, e.g., when used outdoors, is beyond the scope of this standard.
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 26
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
TRUE
FR-68, New Section after 6.3.1.6, See FR-68
TRUE
FR-51, Section No. 6.2.8, See FR-51
TRUE
FR-3, New Section after 6.2.8, See FR-3
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 25
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 1
Luc Martineau
Blue light stations are the means of communication along the trainway and there's no need for other
equipments like PA system for example. And we have to keep in mind that the train operators and/or the
OCC can communicate with passengers with the train PA system.
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 24
Affirmative with Comment 2
Pierre Laurin Should be 6.4.6, not 6.4.5 ?
Luc Martineau This chapter refer to 6.4.6 and not 6.4.5 as stated in the FR.
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 25
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 1
Luc Martineau
The proposed annex do not adress the problem submit in the committee statement and therefore must be
rejected.
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 24
Affirmative with Comment 1
John F. Devlin
I recommend the committee delete the first sentence of the proposed annex language "This is an
equipment exposure duration requirement, not a tenability requirement." because this not a true
statement. A mechanical emergency ventilation system must maintain its intended performance for a
minimum of 1 hour or tenability is not ensured.
Negative 1
TRUE
FR-79, Section No. 7.2.1 [Excluding any Sub-Sections], See FR-79
TRUE
FR-34, Section No. 7.1.2.1, See FR-34
TRUE
FR-70, Section No. 7.1.1, See FR-70
TRUE
FR-63, New Section after 6.4.2.4, See FR-63
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Luc Martineau The proposed annex do not bring any clarity to the actual chapter.
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 26
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 26
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
TRUE
FR-27, Section No. 7.2.3, See FR-27
TRUE
FR-33, Section No. 7.2.1.1, See FR-33
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 23
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 3
John F. Devlin
This standard requires many features be incorporated into the mechanical emergency ventilation system's
design for the purpose of ensuring operational availability and reliability. If the committee believes that
the current edition of the standard does not provide reasonable guidance and safeguards for "the loss of a
fan" then I believe a special task group should be formed to analyze this matter and return to the
committee a detailed analysis assessment, findings, and recommendations for improvement.
Jarrod Alston
The practice of assuming one fan out of service or unavailable speaks to system reliability and availability.
Alternative means exist for addressing risks and hazards associated with equipment availability including
redundancy, maintenance and testing to reduce MTBF, or increased system-wide capacity as would be
called for by assuming fans out of service. Design criteria should instead simply call for consideration of
system availability.
Harold A. Locke
An "industry trend" is not offering a technical basis for making this change which will have significant cost
implications for tunnel systems. This level of redundancy should not be required except where supported
by risk analysis that suggests fan failure coincident with a train fire is probable.
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 24
Affirmative with Comment 2
Jarrod Alston The proposed section 7.2.6 contains two 'shall' statements which is in conflict with the NFPA style guide.
Harold A. Locke
Revise to: "7.2.6.1 The criteria for tenability for stations and trainways shall be established and approved.
7.6.2.2 For stations, the time of tenability shall be greater than the calculated egress time used to
establish egress capacity in 5.3.3."
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 26
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
TRUE
FR-26, Section No. 7.3.2 [Excluding any Sub-Sections], See FR-26
TRUE
FR-35, Section No. 7.2.6, See FR-35
TRUE
FR-28, Section No. 7.2.4.1, See FR-28
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 26
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 24
Affirmative with Comment 1
Jarrod Alston
The use of electrical appliances on rolling stock should addressed in the course of a vehicle hazard
assessment whether for existing rolling stock or as part of vehicle procurement.
Negative 1
Joseph B. Zicherman
I appreciate the addition of the corresponding appendix section, the proposed text for the standard does
not address the nuanced differences between potential ignition sources that have been treated by
installation with a barrier separating them from passenger spaces (battery boxes, power conditioning
equipment, distribution equipment) and the separate class of equipment which - if there were a fire
occurring - would indeed by intimate with passengers and crew. This class includes items such as ovens,
information displays, coffee makers, point off sale equipment and other items. These need to be
addressed specifically for the reasons stated in the original proposal.
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 25
Affirmative with Comment 1
Steven W. Roman
In reviewing the changes to Chapter 8 I noticed a new sub-section 8.4.1.16 which was not discussed at the
last Technical Committee meeting. It appears that the last two sentences were broken out from 8.4.1.15.
These two sentences must be associated with the text in 8.4.1.15 if they are to have any meaning. If this
new section is to remain then “ASTM E19” needs to change to “ASTM E119” and this Chapter reference
needs to be added beneath Table 8.4.1 and assigned letter “p”. Then the letter “p” must be added to the
Table in the Structural Components category. It appears this duplication is an error.
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
TRUE
FR-20, New Section after 8.5.1.2.2, See FR-20
TRUE
FR-72, Section No. 8.4.1, See FR-72
TRUE
FR-18, Section No. 8.3.1, See FR-18
TRUE
FR-37, Section No. 7.6.2, See FR-37
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Affirmative 24
Affirmative with Comment 2
Kevin M. Lewis
LRVs on which a pantograph is the only roof-mounted equipment operating at voltages higher than 600v
should be exempt from roof fire testing, due to a lack of combustible material on the roof.
Harold A. Locke
Revise or provide Annex A material to clarify intent re: configuration and orientation of assembly during
testing and what is meant by "loading".
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 25
Affirmative with Comment 1
Richard D. Peacock ASTM standard referenced in section 8.4.1.16 should be ASTM E119, not ASTM E19
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 26
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 26
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 25
Affirmative with Comment 1
TRUE
FR-22, Section No. 8.5.1.3.2, See FR-22
TRUE
FR-74, Section No. 8.5.1.3.1.1, See FR-74
TRUE
FR-73, Section No. 8.5.1.3 [Excluding any Sub-Sections], See FR-73
TRUE
FR-21, New Section after 8.5.1.2.2, See FR-21
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Kevin M. Lewis
LRVs on which a pantograph is the only roof-mounted equipment operating at voltages higher than 600v
should be exempt from roof fire testing, due to a lack of combustible material on the roof.
Negative 0
Abstain 0
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Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 26
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 26
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 25
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 1
John F. Devlin
The proposed change eliminates minimum features and performance capabilities that are essential for a
functional OCC.
Abstain 0
TRUE
FR-64, Section No. 9.6, See FR-64
TRUE
FR-24, Section No. 8.9.4, See FR-24
TRUE
FR-23, Section No. 8.6.9, See FR-23
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Affirmative 23
Affirmative with Comment 2
Luc Martineau
The content of this FR brings clarity and have to be include in a modify chapter 9.6, not in a new chapter
9.10
Jarrod Alston
The proposed language for section 9.10.3 is awkward. 'The command post and OCC shall cooperate to
provide for efficient and coordinated emergency response operations.'
Negative 1
John F. Devlin
The proposed language is defining requirements that might not be appropriate for all transit systems. I
believe the intent of the code change is already address by existing requirements in Chapter 9.
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 24
Affirmative with Comment 1
David M. Casselman
I support the overall revision, however in proposed Section 10.2.9, it is important to retain the prior
wording from Section 9.6.10, "Alternative location(s) shall be provided in the event the OCC is out of
service for any reason and shall be equipped or have equipment readily available to function as required
by the authority." When originally developed, the wording of that section was carefully chosen to avoid
prescribing an alternative OCC if not required by the authority. In smaller systems, solutions other than an
alternative OCC are often used. The preferred alternative may be to shut down the system and operate
buses until the OCC is restored, or some fully automated systems can be operated from several regional
locations or zones. The additional wording, "OCC" and "primary", in the first line prescribe an alternative
OCC as the only solution, which may not be appropriate for the system.
Negative 1
John F. Devlin
I believe the current requirements in of Chapter 10 provide a reasonable degree of guidance on the scope
and installation requirements for emergency communications systems. The proposed change is too
prescriptive and does not provide appropriate guidance on the minimum intended performance
requirements of the communications systems specified.
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 26
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
Abstain 0
TRUE
FR-46, Section No. 12.2.1, See FR-46
TRUE
FR-75, Chapter 10, See FR-75
TRUE
FR-66, New Section after 9.9, See FR-66
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Affirmative 25
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 1
John F. Devlin
Eliminating the requirements of NFPA 70 there is now no minimum performance requirements which
define the expected minimum performance of moisture and heat resistance. Also, by making specific
reference that this section does not apply to communications cables the standard does not guidance on
the minimum performance requirements for these cables.
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 25
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 1
Luc Martineau The use of MI cable is self sufficient and must not comply with chapter 12.4.1 and 12.4.2
Abstain 0
TRUE
FR-48, Section No. 12.4.3, See FR-48
TRUE
FR-47, Section No. 12.3.1, See FR-47
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Affirmative 25
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 1
John F. Devlin
I agree with the proposed changes in 12.5.1 and 12.5.2 referencing ANSI/UL 2194. I do not agree with
12.5.3(1) requiring the cables be tested in both the vertical and horizontal orientation because this is not a
criteria of ANSI/UL 2194 and has no bearing on the cable fire resistance properties when subjected UL
2194.
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 24
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 2
Luc Martineau Chapter 4.4.1 doesn't exist and this text refer to chapter 4.4
Joseph B. Zicherman
The language proposed is insufficient to address the subject matter in terms of both content and level of
formality. It is also consistent with the language proposed in the change FR-11 which in proposed section
1(a) on refers to incendiary acts.
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 24
Affirmative with Comment 2
Luc Martineau Chapter 4.4.2 doesn't exist. This text must be include in A4.4
Joseph B. Zicherman
This proposed section is a worthwhile effort but needs to be coordinated with the content of proposal FR-
10 inasumuch as they are in disagreement as written currently regarding illegal acts. Otherwise, FR-10
should be eliminated.
Negative 0
Abstain 0
Vote Selection Votes Comments
Affirmative 24
Affirmative with Comment 1
Harold A. Locke
The proposed additional changes in PI #110 should be reconsidered. The alternative is that the stipulated
required egress times (4 minutes for platform clearance and 6 minutes to a point of safety) are
meaningless.
TRUE
FR-42, Section No. A.5.3.3.1, See FR-42
TRUE
FR-11, Section No. A.4.6, See FR-11
TRUE
FR-10, Section No. A.4.4, See FR-10
TRUE
FR-44, Section No. 12.5, See FR-44
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Negative 1
Luc Martineau The proposed text do not had clarity to the actual text and must be rejected.
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Affirmative 25
Affirmative with Comment 1
Pierre Laurin
The proposed change should apply only for escalators which already allow for double file circulation. For
smaller width escalators (e.g. 600mm and possibly even 800mm), which physically permit only single file
circulation, allowing to increase the width by 228 mm will yield higher calculated egress capacity, when in
reality the egress capacity would remain the same due to the physical limitations of the escalator.
Negative 0
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Harold A. Locke The revised cross-reference is inaccurate. A.5.3.5.4 should be deleted entirely.
Negative 0
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Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
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TRUE
FR-32, Section No. A.7.2.5, See FR-32
TRUE
FR-15, Section No. A.5.3.9.1, See FR-15
TRUE
FR-69, Section No. A.5.3.5.4, See FR-69
TRUE
FR-17, Section No. A.5.3.5.3, See FR-17
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Pierre Laurin
The proposed text pushes the agency to establish the operation plans and to analyse all emergency
scenarios upfront in the design phases, which is not always practical or feasible. The existing text allows
the agency to continue revising and adjusting the operating and emergency procedures based on lessons
learned and changing circumstances.
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Affirmative 26
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
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TRUE
FR-36, Section No. A.7.2.6, See FR-36
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Affirmative 26
Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
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Negative 0
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Negative 2
Pierre Laurin
Noise levels currently outlined in B.2.1.5 are below the general noise level limits stipulated by ISO 1999,
EU directive 2003/10/EC, and Canada Occupational Safety and Health Regulations SOR/86-304 Part VII.
Sound levels generated and present in trains, tunnels and stations during normal operation exceed these
proposed sound level limits for emergency response conditions. The proposed sound level criteria may not
be practically achievable nor necessary during emergency in subway ventilation system emergency mode.
Jarrod Alston
Although only proposed as Annex language, the implications of the proposed annex material has not been
fully vetted in terms of what the design requirements and cost implications are for achieving the proposed
sound levels. Further, the intent is for alarm signals to be audible, intelligible, or otherwise
comprehended. Alternative means for achieving those ends are likely possible rather than placing
limitations on sound generation. The NFPA 72 technical committee ought to be conferred with regarding
alarm and notification options in noisy environments.
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TRUE
FR-49, Section No. B.2.2, See FR-49
TRUE
FR-38, Section No. B.2.1.5, See FR-38
TRUE
FR-76, Section No. B.2.1.1, See FR-76
TRUE
FR-67, Section No. A.9.6.9, See FR-67
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John F. Devlin
I appreciate the intent of the proposed language and the fact that this information would be Annex
material however a majority of information provide is based upon the premise of voice intelligibility.
Communications with passengers in the tunnel trainway during emergency evacuation can be
accomplished by many means beyond voice communication. Many transit systems are in cities where
many different languages are spoke (There are more than 50 different languages spoken in New York City).
The intent of this standard is to provide guidance on providing minimum requirements for effective
communications; this code change proposal places too much emphasis on voice communications when
there are many other effective means that could be used in a tunnel environment.
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Harold A. Locke
The editorial corrections are correct, except that the last equation is not represented (refer to the last
equation on the 2nd page of the attachment:" 3.26 + 2.05 + 0.00 + 0.54 = 5.85 minutes").
Negative 0
Abstain 0
TRUE
FR-78, Section No. C.1.4, See FR-78
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Pierre Laurin
Need clarification whether any of the vehicles subjected to full-scale fire testing were compliant with
NFPA-130.
Harold A. Locke
Proposed material is beneficial but could be expanded. Also, it would be beneficial to provide language
that correlates the several different Annexes addressing fire and ventilation.
Negative 1
Jarrod Alston
The proposed Annex material implies that the scenarios listed in section H.2 are exhaustive and the only
ones that may require consideration. Discussion of 'CFD Modeling of Fire Profiles with Cone Calorimeter
Tests of Train Materials' implies that only CFD-based models are capable of predicting fire growth and
development. Alternative form (zone) models exist for this work as well. The limited data presented in
'Full Scale Fire Tests' provides no context (vehcile characteristics, test configuration, etc.) or background
information on any of the test results mentioned. The result is a very confusing outlook on potential heat
release rate. Then, language is included to essentially discredit the test data for a variety of reasons,
calling into question the purpose of including it in the first place. It would be more appropriate to provide
guidance that combustible materials, no matter how well they perform relative to ASTM E162 and ASTM
E663 or ASTM E1354 testing, can be ignited and contribute to vehicle fire development. Therefore, it is
important to develop a system-wide risk profile with respect to potential initiating fire events and to
evaluate the vehicle response from a fire growth and development perspective to thos initiating fires.
However, this risk profile does not necessarily address the design heat release rate for ventilation design
criteria.
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Affirmative with Comment 0
Negative 0
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TRUE
FR-40, Chapter H, See FR-40
TRUE
FR-29, New Section after G.1, See FR-29
TRUE
FR-71, Section No. D.3.4, See FR-71
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