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BAYOUMI DATE OF BIRTH SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER|[IIIII]-'*'b7@[III] SAUDI PASSPORT [IE;IIII§:%Ag INTERVIEWED IN RIYADH, SAUDI ;ARABIA. AL-BAYOUMI HAS WORKED FOR THE SAUDI ARABIAN PRESIDENCYOF CIVIL AVIATION PcA FOR APPROXIMATELY1.-II ! A - Y

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BAYOUMI LISTED HIS NAME oN THE APPLICATION AND ALso THE NAME oF

HIS FRIEND[::::j NFI As A REFERENGE. THE MANAGER INSTRUCTEDAL-BAYOUMI To LIST�[:�:] AS A REFERENCE BECAUSEI[::::]HAD RESIDED VAT THE IDENTIFIED APARTMENT COMPLEX APARTMENTs FOR AN EXTENDED AUPERIOD oF TIME. AL-BAYOUMI FILLED OUT THE RENTAL APPLIcATIoNs IN, -THE NAMEs 0F KHALID, NAwAF, AND HIMSELF,_AND LISTED HIS OWN ~A IADDREss As THE PREVIOUS RESIDENCE OF BOTH KHALID AND NAWAF EVEN ITHOUGH THEY HAD NEVER LIVED THERE. KHALID AND NAwAF EACH sIGNEDTHEIR OWN SIGNATURES ON THE APPLICATIONS, AND AL-BAYOUMI SIGNED _OHIS OWN SIGNATURE ON THE APPLICATION AND ASA GUARANTOR. _ �

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�l5tTTi§%/NF,OC! KHALID AND NAWAF ATTEMPTED TO PAY CASH FOR THEIR;RENT SECURITY DEPOSIT, BUT THE MANAGEMENT OFFICE WOULD NoTACCEPT cAsH PAYMENT. AFTER THE MANAGER ADVISED THAT THEY NEEDEDTo OPEN A BANK AccouNT,_AL-BAYouMI OFFERED TO ASSIST THEM IN IDOING so. AL-BAYouMI ACCOMPANIED KHALID AND NAWAF TO A LOCAL ,=.BRANcH OF AN IDENTIFIED u.s. FINANCIAL INSTITUTION WHERE AL� '

BAYouMI HAD AN ExIsTING ACCOUNT. KHALID AND NAWAF OPENED A BANK.

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COMPLEX. THE BANK TELLER INFGRMED THEM THAT THEY COULD NoToBTAIN A BANK CHECK As NEW cusTgMERs WHO HAD NO cREDIT HIsToRY.THE TELLER SUGGESTED THAT THEY DEPosIT.cAsH INTo AL-BAYoUMI's

EXISTING ACCOUNT AND-DRAW THE CHECK FROM THAT AccouNT; UPON

OBTAINING THE cHEcK FROM AL�BAYOUMI�S AccouNT, KHALID AND NAWAF .IMMEDIATELY PROVIDED AL�BAYOUMI WITH THE sAME AMOUNT OF cAsH AND

AL-BAYQUMI DEPOSITED THE MONEY INTo HIE AccouNT. AL�BAYOUMI DID ;iNoT RECALL IF HE ACCOMPANIED KHALID AND NAWAF BACK TO THE� ~_MANAG R's OFFICER WHEN THEY SUBMITTED THE cHEcK."17J� i�z/NF,OC! AL-BAYOUMI NEVER PAID RENT 0R PROVIDED MONEY ToEITHER KHALID oR NAWAF, AND KHALID AND NAWAF DID NoT sTAY AT AL-

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PLANNING A DINNER IN HONOR OF A SHEIKH NFI! FROM NORWAY WHO HAD-LECTURED AND PROVIDED HIS SERVICES AT THE MOSQUE DURING RAMADAN.YTHE SHEIKH WAS KNOWN BY THE KURDISH MEMBERS OF THE MOSQUE AND '

VISITED THE MOSQUE FOR TWO CONSECUTIVE YEARS. AL-BAYOUMI PLANNED 5

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I_ HOLD THE DINNER AT THE IDENTIFIED APARTMENT COMPLEX. BECAUSE THE~' FEMALE GUESTS WOULD BE IN HIS OWN APARTMENT WITH HIS WIFE. AL-<� BAYOUMI ASKED KHALID AND NAWAF IF THE MALE GUESTS COULD -l"I CONGREGATE IN THEIR APARTMENT BECAUSE THERE WAS EMPTY SPACE AND

_ ' NO FU TURE IN THEIR APARTMENT. KHALID AND NAWAF AGREED. � ' 1 Ujl9.�Eg¬/NF! ---- DURING THE DINNER. KHALID AND NAWAF STAYED IN THEBACK O M OF THEIR APARTMENT DESPITE INVITATIONS TO SIT WITH THEOTHER INDIVIDUALS IN ATTENDANCE: ALTHOUGH THEY STAYED IN THE

I BACK ROOM, KHALID AND NAWAF DID CONVERSE WITH OTHER INDIVIDUALS' WHO CIRCULATED THROUGHOUT THE APARTMENT.- AN INDIVIDUAL NFI! WHO ~

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AL-BAYOUMI DURING THE TIME THAT KHALID AND NAwAF LIVED AT THEIDENTIFIED APARTMENT coMPLEx.� AL-BAYOUMI DID NoT HosT ANY KIND ;OF "WELCOMING" PARTY IN HONOR OF KHALID AND NAwAF, THE DINNER .

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II: WINQIYIg5ALS DID NOT wANT To APPEAR ON THE vIDEoTAPE. _20. _r /NF,oc! AL�BAYOUMI RECALLED THAT KHALID AND NAwAF -SUBMITTED A NoTIcE-To-vAcATE FoRM SHORTLY AFTER MovING IN To THEIDENTIFIED APARTMENT COMPLEX_BECAUSE THEY FELT THE APARTMENT WAG;TOO COSTLY. AL�BAYOUMI wAs AwARE THAT KHALID AND NAWAF wERE I

92 PLANNING To MovE INTo THE APARTMENT 0F HASHIM AL�ATTAS, A STUDENT

I EN SAN DIEGO wHo WAS GOING TO EE RETURNING To sAUDI ARABIA. AL~»EAYQUMI HAD KNowN AL~ATTAS FoR A LONG TIME THROUGH SCHOOL AND IWOULD sEE AND CALL HIM OFTEN BUT AL�BAYOUMI DID NoT KNow HOW ~-

U' KHALI D NAwAF KNEw AL�ATTAS. ~ ' A _ II I %2iY�T%§3§NF,OC! AL-BAYOUMI RECALLED HEARING THAT KHALID AND NANAE .

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on the application and also the name of his friend [::EEEkf%FU! aspareference. The mana er instructed AL-BAYOUMI to list as-areference because[:fE:]had resided at Parkwood Apartments for anextended period of time. AL-BAYOUMI filled out-the rental Q,�applications in the names of KHALID, NAWAF, and himself, and listed

ihis own address as the previous residence of both KHALID and NAWAFeven though they had never lived there. KHALID and NAWAF each llsigned their own signatures on the applications, and AL�BAYOUMI_'

* signed his own signature on the application and as guarantor.

' AL-BAYOUMI identified his own handwriting and signature� {'- on copies of the three rental applications and the guarantee form1 ;[Note: these copies are enclosed in a FD�34O within the case file].' lAL-BAYOUMI did not completely read the terms of agreement to .' signing as the guarantor, but did so to help out KHALID and NAFAF� as newcomers to the community.

/_ .KHALID and NAWAF attempted to»pay cash for their rent and .

security deposit, but the management office would not accept cash .E payment. After the manager advised that they needed to open a bank _

account, AL-BAYOUMI offered to assist them in doing so. AL-BAYOUMl.* therefore accompanied KHALID and NAWAF to a local branch of Bank of

America at which AL-BAYOUMI had an existing account. KHALID andNAWAF opened a bank account with a large amount of cash. AL- l;;~BAYOUMI did not know the exact amount of cash that KHALID and NAWAR

possessed,_but believed it may have been between 4000 USD and 8000.usD. _ _ »_ ,

- KHALID and NAWAF also needed to obtain a bank check topay for their rent and security deposit at Parkwood Apartments, ,

l however, the bank teller informed them that they could not obtain acheck as new customers who had no.credit history. The tellersuggested that they deposit cash into AL-BAYOUMI's existing accountand draw the check upon AL�BAYOUMI's account. iUpon obtaining thecheck from AL�BAYOUMI�s account, KHALID and NAWAF immediatelyprovided AL�BAYOUMI with the same amount of cash as the bank checkand AL�BAYOUMI deposited the money into his account. AL-BAYOUMIdid not recall.if he accompanied KHALID and NAWAF back to the

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plaque during the dinner. I

Approximately two to four days after KHALID and NAWAF. ,moved into Parkwood Apartments, AL-BAYOUMI was planning a dinner inhonor of a sheikh from Norway who had lectured and provided hisservices at the mosque during Ramadan. The sheikh was known by theKurdish members of the mosque and visited the mosque for two .consecutive years. AL~BAYOUMI planned on holding the dinner at themosque, but others felt that the mosque was out of the way andpeople therefore would not attend. AL�BAYOUMI then decided to holdthe dinner at Parkwood Apartments; Because the female guests wouldbe in his own apartment with-his wife, AL�BAYOUMI asked KHALID and-NAWAF if the male guests could congregate in their apartmentgbecause there was empty space and no furniture in their apartment.KHALID and NAWAF agreed that the dinner could be held in their �apartment. _ " _

During the dinner, KHALID and NAWAF stayed in the backroom of their apartment despite being invited to sit with the otherindividuals in attendance. "Although they stayed in the back roompKHALID and NAWAF.did converse with other individuals who circulatedthroughout the apartment. An individual [NFI] who had led prayersat the mosque and who was returninq_home was presented with a J

I The dinner inhonor of the sheikh was the only dinner held at KHALID and NAWAF'sapartment and the only dinner held by AL�BAYOUMI during the timethat KHALID and NAWAF lived at Parkwood-Apartments. AL�BAYOUMI didnot host any kind of "welcoming" party in honor of KHALID and -NAWAF. . T

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wi nor was he present when KHALID and NAWAF submitted the form; AL-]i'BAYOUMI did not know the date on which KHALID and NAWAF submittedh .the form. When shown a copy of the notice-to-vacate form, ALP » _ b6

BAYOUMI advised that he did not recognize the form and that his � 'i� handwriting did not appear on the form [Note: this copy is enclosed� b7C. 'in a FD�34O within the case fileI;~ AL�BAYOUMI was aware that V i' KHALID and NAWAF were planning to move into the apartment of HASHIM

. AL�ATTAS, a student in San Diego who was going to be returning to jSaudi Arabia. AL-BAYOUMI had known AL�ATTAS for a long timethrough school and would see and call him often. AL-BAYOUMI did A

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_ TEXT: 1. ps//NF,Oc! FBI COMMENT: 'THE FOLLOWING Is AN EXCERPT .OF AN INTERVIEW CONDUCTED WITH OMAR AL-BAYOUMI. THE TEXT HAS '

BEEN SUMMARIZED FOR BREVITY, BUT NO SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES HAVE BEEN -MADE TO THE INFORMATION.! SAUDI NATIONAL

I I I ' | WAS'INTERVIEWED IN RIYADH,JSAUDI v;§ARABIA. - AL�BAYOUMI HAS WORKED FOR THE SAUDI ARABIAN PRESIDENCY

':, CIVIIJAVIATION PCA! FOR APPROXIMATELY 2'7 YEARS, AND CURRENTLYA �WORKS IN THE FINANCE/BUDGET DEPARTMENT. IN APPROXIMATEQ 1995.

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KHALID AND NAWAE, AND sTATED THAT THEY wERE PROM sAUDI ARAETA AND;ARRIVED IN THE UNITED STATES APPROXIMATELY ONE MONTH PRIOR TO y

, sTUDY ENGLISH. FBI COMMENT: KHALID AND NAWAF ARE IDENTIFIABLE

wITH 9/ll HIJACKERS KHALID'AL¢MIHDHAR AND NAWAF AL-HAZMI.! -;EA E+/NE,Oc! NEITHER KHALID NOR NAWAF MENTIONED wHERE THEYREsID D IN LOS ANGELES, CALIFONRIA, BUT THEY POSSIBLY SPOKE OF-

PLANS TO TRAVEL TO sAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA. [::::::::::::::]KHALID *AND NAWAF THAT HE LIVED NEAR THE MOSQUE IN sAN DIEGO, - - ,

. AND THAT THEY cOULD cONTAcT HIM IF EVER IN sAN DIEGO. Efiif?ifii:]*.;. DID NOT RECALL IF HE PROVIDED HIs TELEPHONE NUMBER DURING THE

-' CONVERSATION, wHIcH LAsTED APPROXIMATELY FIVE MINUTEs.

�-I ' NF,Oc! PRIOR To THEIR MEETING IN THE REsTAURANT,[:::::::]1 HAD NEVER sEEN NOR HEARD OF KHALID AL-MIHDHAR OR NAWAF I

� AL-HAZMI. | |wAs NOT INTRODUCED TO KHALID AND NAWAF BY <; ANY OTHER INDIVIDUAL AND HE JUST HAPPENED TO MEET THEM IN THE

RESTAURANT. [::::::::::]WAS NOT INsTRUcTED TO VISIT THAT SPECIFICREsTAURANT ON THAT DAY, NOR WAS HE INSTRUCTED TO MEET KHALID AND '

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EINEEAEADNQSUEI >|1 W7, |Jl| INF OC! IDENTIFIED

HE KING FAHAD MOSQUE, BUT DENIED KNOWING|WAS EMPLOYED AT THE SAUDI CONSULATE IN LOS ANGELESDID NoT SEE NOR TALK[::::::::::::g:g3N THE DAY THATE::::::::Ej

TRAVELED TO THE CONSULATE IN Lo GELEs. . .

I2. E7/NE,oc! LESS THAN oNE WEEK AFTER THE TRIP TO Los ANGELEE,;KHALID AND NAWAF ARRIVED AT THE IsLAMIc_cENTER OF sAN DIEGO, VJ

. CALIFORNIA, IcsD! AND ASKED THE IMAM IF WAS ' I, AVAILABLE. THE IMAM REsPoNDED THA WOULD BE IN LATER TO ~.

PRAY. [:::::::::]DID NOT REcALL IF HE MET KHALID AND NAWAF AT 'THE MOSQUE 0R AT THE APARTMENT coMPLEx LATER THAT DAY, NoR COULD

HE RECALL THE EXACT DATE THAT KHALID AND NANAE ARRIVED AT THE _ �MOSQUE. wHEN THEY DID MEET, KHALID AND NAWAF T0LD[::::::::::]_.1THAT THEY wERE LOOKING To RENT AN APARTMENT IN THE AREA NEAR THE

, MosQUE. _"� 13. §d/NF,OC!| IKHALID AND NAWAF To THE

-;|MANAGEMENT OFFICE OF AN IDENIFIED APARTMENT COMPLEX, AT WHiCH| |1. KHALID '

' AND NAwAP IN FILLING OUT AN APARTMENT RENTAL APPLICATION DUE To ~ .

; AT THE DIRECTION OF THE MANAGER,[::::::::]» I ITHE APPLICATION AND ALSO THE NAME OFI HIs PRIEND LuwAM NFI! As A REPERENcE. THE MANAGER INSTRUCTED

_ I |As A REPERENcE BECAUSE[::::]HAD RESIDED Q' AT THE IDENTIFIED APARTMENT COMPLEX APARTMENTS FOR AN EXTENDED

PERIOD OF TIME. | |THE RENTAL APPLIcATIoNs IN,THE NAMES_OF KHALID, NAWAF, AND HIMSELF, AND LISTED HIS OWN - I

ADDREss As THE PREvIous REsIDENcE OF BOTH KHALID AND NAwAE EVEN 5.THOUGH THEY HAD NEVER LIvED THERE. KHALID AND NAWAF EAcH SIGNED "

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14. 9:7/NF,OC! I IREAD THE TERMs OF»AGREEM NT TO SIGNING As THE GUARANTOR, EUT DID so TO HELP OUT ~

KHALID AND NAWAF As NEwCOMERs TO THE COMMUNITY. [::::::::::::][::::::::::::]COMMON PRACTICE IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND IN THE MOSQUE

Is TO ASSIST INDIVIDUALS NEw TO THE AREA. wHEN AL�BAYOUMI FIRST

MOVED TO sAN DIEGO, AN INDIVIDUAL NAMEDI | NFI! HAD _'AssIsTED HIM IN OBTAINING AN APARTMENT RENTAL,| I -THEREFORE DID THE sAME FOR KHALID AND NAwAF. OTHER THAN KHALID.;AND NAWAF,[::::::::::]DID NOT RECALL AssIsTING ANY OTHER _UINDIVIDUALs IN OBTAINING AN APARTMENT RENTAL. _

Is. O97/NF,Oc! KHALID AND NAWAF ATTEMPTED TO PAY CAsH FOR THEIR;RENT AND sECURITY DEPOSIT, BUT THE MANAGEMENT OFFICE wOULD NOTACCEPT CAsH PAYMENT. AFTER THE MANAGER ADVIsED THAT THEY NEEDED

TO OPEN A BANK ACCOUNT AssIsT THEM IN ,' I

DOING so. I IKHALID AND NAwAF TO A LOCAL .I. ... IDENTIFIED U.S. FINANCIAL INSTITUTION WHERE[:::;%%;- '..,[?%ff?:??:f�AN EXISTING ACCOUNT. KHALID AND NAwAF OPENED A B.� ACCOUNT wITH A LARGE AMOUNT OF CAsH. [:::::::::] DID NOT KNOW THE

" EXACT AMOUNT OF CAsH THAT KHALID AND NAwAF POssEssED, BUT � .

1 BELIEVED IT MAY HAVE BEEN BETWEEN U.S.$4000 AND $8000." 16. pg//NF,OC! KHALID AND NAwAF ALsO NEEDED A BANK CHECK TO PAY- -

; FOR THEIR RENT AND SECURITY DEPOsIT AT THE IDENTIFIED APARTMENTCOMPLEX. THE BANK TELLER INFORMED THEM THAT THEY COULD NOT

OBTAIN A BANK CHECK AS NEW CUSTQMERS WHQ HAD NO CREDIT HISTORY.THE TELLER sUGGEsTED THAT THEY DEPOSIT CAsH INTO[::::::::::::]

� [:::::::]ACCOUNT AND DRAw THE CHECK FROM THAT ACCOUNT. UPONOBTAINING THE CHECK ACCOUNT KHALID AND NAwAFPROVIDELTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETLHE sAME'AMOUNT OF CAsH AND 7 �

DEPOSITED THE MONEY INTO HIs ACCOUNT. [::::::::::]DID ;NOT RECALL IF HE ACCOMPANIED KHALID AND NAWAF BACK TO THE

MANAG S OFFICER WHEN THEY SUBMITTED THE CHECK

"'I7] 32//NF,OC![::::::::::]NEVER PAID RENT OR PROVIDED MONEY TOI EITHER KHALID OR NAWAF, AND KHALID AND NAWAF DID NOT sTAY[:::::::] I

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I IAT ANY TIME. [:::::::::] DID NoT KNow IF THEY ISTAYED ANYwHERE ELSE IN sAN DIEGo, CALIFORNIA, MoVING INTO

THEIR OWN APARTMENT. A sYRIAN INDIVIDUAL NAMEDE?f?ff] PHONETIC,NFI! owNED A RECREATIONAL VEHICLE RV! wHIcH HE KEPT IN THE I

PA IN LoT oF THE IsLAMIc CENTER OF SAN DIEGO IcsD>, EUT[::::][::%%:ii1DID NoT HAVE KNowLEDGE OF EITHER KHALID oR NAWAF EVERSTAYING IN THE RV. KHALID AND NAwAF HAD MET[::::::]vUK>[::::::][::::%%?DESCRIBED AS HAVING soME MENTAL PRoELEMs, AT THE MOSQUEH;1e. //NF,OC! APPROXIMATELY Two TO FDUR DAYS AFTER KHALID AND H

- NAwAF oVED INTo THE IDENTIFIED APARTMENT COMPLEX,[::::::::::::::]1 PLANNING A DINNER IN HONOR OF A sHEIKH NFI! FRoM NoRwAY WHO HAD;

LEGTURED AND PROVIDED HIS sERvIcEs AT THE MosQUE DURING RAMADAN..THE SHEIKH WAS KNowN BY THE KURDIsH MEMBERS OF T AND -

VIsITED THE MOSQUE FOR Two coNsEcUTIVE YEARs. [:f%:%fff%?]PLANNED I�ON HOLDING THE DINNER AT THE MosQUE, BUT o H'Rs F THAT THE-_-I

- MosQUE wAs IN AN INcoNVENIENT LOCATION. [:§:%::::%%�DECIDED TO- HoLD THE DINNER AT THE IDENTIFIED APARTMENT COMPLEX. BECAUSE THE

~' FEMALE GUESTS woULD BE IN HIs OWN APARTMENT] |- f[::::::::::::] KHALID AND NAWAF IF THE MALE GUESTS COULD - .' CONGREGATE IN THEIR APARTMENT EEcAUsE THERE wAs EMPTY SPACE AND

' NO FURNITURE IN THEIR APARTMENT. KHALID AND NAWAF AGREED. ' '

' 19. Q9//NF! DURING THE DINNER, KHALID AND NAWAF STAYED IN THEBACK ROOM OP THEIR APARTMENT DESPITE INVITATIONS TO SIT WITH THE

OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN ATTENDANCE: ALTHOUGH THEY STAYED IN THE __ BACK ROOM, KHALID AND NAWAF DID CONVERSE WITH OTHER INDIVIDUALS� WHO CIRCULATED THROUGHOUT THE APARTMENT. AN INDIVIDUAL NFI! WHO ~

HAD LED PRAYERS AT THE MOSQUE AND WHO WAS RETURNING HOME WAS -

PRESENTED WITH A PLAQUE

AQUE' iIN APPRECIATION OF 5iWITH HIS STUDIES. THE SHEIKH DID NOT RECEIVE H

{ _A PLAQUE BECAUSE HE HAD BEEN PROVIDED A SALARY IN RETURN FOR HIS_ SERVICES. THE DINNER IN HONOR OF THE SHEIKH WAS THE ONLY DINNER� HELD AT KHALID AND NAWAF'S APARTMENT AND THE ONLY DINNER HELD BY

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[::::::::::::::::] THE TIME THAT KHALID AND NAwAF LIVED AT THEIDENTIFIED APARTMENT COMPLEX. | |ANY KIND IOF "WELCOMING" PARTY IN HONOR OF KHALID AND NAWAF, THE DINNER

.wAs VIDEOTAPED WITH[::::::::::::]VIDEO CAMERA, BUT SOME_INDIvIDUALs DID NOT wANT 0 APPEAR 0N THE VIDEOTAPE.20. Qgé/NF,OC![::::::::ijRECALLED THAT KHALID AND NAwAF -SUBMIT D A N0TIcE-To>vAcATE FORM SHORTLY AFTER MOVING IN To THE

IDENTIFIED APARTMENT COMPLEX BECAUSE THEY FELT THE APARTMENT WAS

;Too COSTLY. | I |KHALID AND NAWAF wERE 392 PLANNING To MOVE INTo THE APARTMENT| | A STUDENT_ I sAN DIEGo wHo wAs GOIN -To BE RETURNING To SAUDI ARABIA. [:::][:%:::::]HAD KNOWN[:::::::f]FOR A LONG TIME THROUGH SCHOOL AND �

WOULD SEE AND CALL HIM OFTEN EUTI |DID NOT KNOW HowKHALID AND NAwAF KNEW » - A1

21. //NF IHEARING THAT KHALID AND NAWAR .. HAD M§¬ED FOR Two WEEKS, THEN RETURNED,1, TO THEIR APARTMENT AT THE IDENTIFIED APARTMENT COMPLEX. [::::::]_I� IN wAsHINGTON, DC, DURING THAT TIME.

1 j HAD DEPARTED sAN DIEGO,-CALIFORNIA, FoR WASHINGTON, ;~ Dc, A COUPLE oF WEEKS AFTER KHALID AND NAwAF MovED INTO THE

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MOsQUE.ON ONE TO TWO OccAsIONs. - I23. //NF,OC!I IA GREAT DEAL OF CONTACTWITH é§ALID OR NAWAF WHILE THEY RESIDED AT TH IDENTIFIED

T COMPLEX DUE TO 513 TRAVELH ON Ae FEW OCCASIONS[:::::]�I RTMENT TO sAYAPA .

HELLO. DURING THESE VISITS, KHALID AND NAWAF OFTEN WOULD JOKE _, IIWITH EACH OTHER BY PUSHING OR SHOVING. I �DID NOT LIKE �I24. LQ//NF,OC!| I -INDIvIDUALs IN sAN DIEGO WITH WHOM KHALID AND NAWAF SPENT A

SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME, AND DID NOT KNOW OF ANY INDIVIDUALS QWHO AssIsTED KHALID OR NAWAF IN OBTAINING DRIVER'S LIcENsEs OR

_ ANY OTHER FORMS OF IDENTIFICATION. I I _-' EVERYONE AT THE MOSQUE IS ALWAYS WILLING TO HELP NEWcOMERs TO THE

COMMUNITY. " '

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ITO KHALID OR INAWAF, BUT RECA AT THE MOSQUE. -

26. $¢/NF,Oc!i iEITHER KHALID OR NAWAF TO ,HAVE WORKED WHILE IN sAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA. I I '

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COMPLEX ON ONE To Two OCCASIONS. I |KHALID OR-NAwAE USE A COMPUTER, AND HE NEVER SPOKE wITH EITHER KHALID GR .

NAWAF ABOUT COMPUTERS 0R THE INTERNET. I I| |T0 EITHER KHALID OR NAWAF.27. _C377NF,OC!| |NEvER SPOKE TO EITHER KHALID 0R NAWAFABOUT oLITIcs, INCLUDING JIHAD, MARTYRDOM, OR ANTI�U.S_ =

SENTIMENT, MARRIAGE, OR FAMILY. NEITHER POLITICS NoR RADICAL .

VIEWS wERE ALLowED To BE DISCUSSED AT THE MOSQUE. [:::::::::] ;;WAS NOT AwARE THAT KHALID AND NAWAF HAD ATTENDED FLIGHT TRAININGJ

1-WHILE LIVING IN SAN DIEGO CALIFORNIA, AND NEITHER KHALID NOR F, NAWAE EVER SPOKE ABOUT FLIGHT TRAINING. I~

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