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Session #68 802.16 GRIDMAN Opening Report IEEE 802.16 Presentation Submission Template (Rev. 9) Document Number: IEEE 802.16gman-10/xxxx Date Submitted: 2010-07-10 Source: Tim Godfrey Voice: EPRI E-mail: Chair IEEE 802.16 GRIDMAN Study Group Venue: IEEE 802.16 Session #68 Base Contribution: N/A Purpose: Session #68 Opening Report / Agenda for GRIDMAN SG Notice: This document does not represent the agreed views of the IEEE 802.16 Working Group or any of its subgroups. It represents only the views of the participants listed in the “Source(s)” field above. It is offered as a basis for discussion. It is not binding on the contributor(s), who reserve(s) the right to add, amend or withdraw material contained herein. Release: The contributor grants a free, irrevocable license to the IEEE to incorporate material contained in this contribution, and any modifications thereof, in the creation of an IEEE Standards publication; to copyright in the IEEE’s name any IEEE Standards publication even though it may include portions of this contribution; and at the IEEE’s sole discretion to permit others to reproduce in whole or in part the resulting IEEE Standards publication. The contributor also acknowledges and accepts that this contribution may be made public by IEEE 802.16. Patent Policy: The contributor is familiar with the IEEE-SA Patent Policy and Procedures: <http://standards.ieee.org/guides/bylaws/sect6-7 . html#6 > and < http://standards.ieee.org/guides/opman/ sect6 .html#6.3 >. Further information is located at <http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-material.html > and < http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat >. 1

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Session #68 802.16 GRIDMAN Opening Report

IEEE 802.16 Presentation Submission Template (Rev. 9) Document Number:

IEEE 802.16gman-10/xxxxDate Submitted:

2010-07-10Source:

Tim Godfrey Voice:EPRI E-mail:Chair IEEE 802.16 GRIDMAN Study Group

Venue:IEEE 802.16 Session #68

Base Contribution:N/A

Purpose:Session #68 Opening Report / Agenda for GRIDMAN SG

Notice:This document does not represent the agreed views of the IEEE 802.16 Working Group or any of its subgroups. It represents only the views of the participants listed in the “Source(s)” field above. It is offered as a basis for discussion. It is not binding on the contributor(s), who reserve(s) the right to add, amend or withdraw material contained herein.

Release:The contributor grants a free, irrevocable license to the IEEE to incorporate material contained in this contribution, and any modifications thereof, in the creation of an IEEE Standards publication; to copyright in the IEEE’s name any IEEE Standards publication even though it may include portions of this contribution; and at the IEEE’s sole discretion to permit others to reproduce in whole or in part the resulting IEEE Standards publication. The contributor also acknowledges and accepts that

this contribution may be made public by IEEE 802.16.

Patent Policy:The contributor is familiar with the IEEE-SA Patent Policy and Procedures:

<http://standards.ieee.org/guides/bylaws/sect6-7.html#6> and <http://standards.ieee.org/guides/opman/sect6.html#6.3>.Further information is located at <http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-material.html> and <http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat >.

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Session #68

GRIDMANOpening Report

July 12, 2010

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• GRIDMAN Web site• http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/16/sg/gridman

• PAR (80216-10/0018r2) approved by NESCOM on 18 June 2010.

• Continuing in Study Group mode for this session – voting open to all attendees

• Call for Contributions for 802.16n System Requirements Document (80216GMAN-10/0022)• Issued 4-15-2010 – will close this week• http://ieee802.org/16/sg/gridman/#10_0022

• Focus for Session #68 will be on developing a draft of the 802.16n System Requirements Document (SRD) from the outline in document C80216gman-10/0022

GRIDMAN Status

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GRIDMAN AGENDA - Manchester Ballroom G

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Date Time Details

Tuesday 13 July 2010

08:00-12:00 • Approve agenda & minutes, review patent slides, attendance, roster

• Review of C80216gman-10/0022 • Outline of SRD from Session #67

• Revisit 802.16n integration question: 802.16m only, or all of base?

• Discuss and develop work plan, SRD process• Establish order of contribution presentations• Contribution presentations

Wednesday14 July 2010

08:00-10:00 • Contribution presentations

10:00-12:00 • Joint Session with PPC (M2M)• M2M PAR and requirements overlap, schedule

alignment

13:00-18:00 • Consolidation of text proposals

Thursday 15 July 2010

08:00-18:00 • Contribution presentations• C80216gman-10_0027.doc • C80216gman-10_0025.doc• 802.16m-07-001r1

• Initial editing of draft System Requirements Document• Review Work Plan, Schedule

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Straw Poll for Tuesday Afternoon

• Recess until 4pm - 1

• Recess until 8:00 tomorrow - 5

• Continue at 1:30pm today – 2

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Discussion on Work Plan• Develop SRD

– Accept contributions through July 2010 meeting– Approve D1.0– Finalize Requirements section in September 2010

• System Architecture Reference Model (as an annex to SRD)– In parallel, we can start to take contributions toward the spec

• System Design Document SDD– SDD has value, but we can do it smarter than TGm – the purpose should be to define the architecture that defines the

design. The SDD is the venue for defining the high-level features and architecture – Maybe re-name it System Architecture.

– SDD did not work well for TGm because it became a consensus statement and took lots of realignment. (is there an option to “abandon” it at some point?)

– We don’t want to spend time on a “non-essential” document. On the other hand we need to have a well defined architecture before starting the actual spec.

• Alternate - Draft “outline” of specification prior to starting specification – (issue with SDD process is that discussions have to occur twice)– Reason for SDD was for ITU requirement.– Could we make an “architecture” annex to the SRD? System Architecture Reference Model.– How does SAR gain “official” standing?

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Agreed Work Plan• Develop SRD– Accept contributions through July 2010 meeting

– Approve D1.0.

– Call for comments on Draft 1.0 will be issued at end of July 2010

– Process comments, resolve, and refine D1.0 in September 2010

– Finalize and approve SRD Document in September 2010.

• Call for contributions for SARM and P802.16n Working Document– Opening after September 2010 meeting, contributions to be presented at November 2010

– Develop System Architecture Reference Model (as an annex to SRD)• We believe that the SARM is part of the SRD so it constrains the overall system architecture and is an official document.

– In parallel, will take contributions toward the baseline P802.16n Draft Standard and TOC

– Develop first draft of SARM annex (Nov ember 2010)

– Call for comments on first draft of SARM Annex (after November 2010)

– Editor issues Table of Contents for P802.16n Working Document (November 2010)• From this point, contributions to working document are based on TOC

– Process comments on first draft of SARM annex, resolve and complete SARM Annex

– Finalize and Approve SARM annex to SRD (January 2011)

• Drafting of baseline P802.16n Working Document– Develop P802.16n Working Document

– Contributions are voted into the working document

– Ballot Schedule….

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Admistrivia

• Please log your attendance each day– https://murphy.events.ieee.org/imat/index

• Review of Patent slides– Now using Post-PAR slide set

– http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt

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Participants, Patents, and Duty to InformAll participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants:

“Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents

“Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims

“Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents)

The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group

Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2

Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged

No duty to perform a patent searchSlide #1

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Patent Related Links

All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development.Patent Policy is stated in these sources:

IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylawshttp://standards.ieee.org/guides/bylaws/sect6-7.html#6

IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manualhttp://standards.ieee.org/guides/opman/sect6.html#6.3

Material about the patent policy is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-material.html

Slide #2

If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at [email protected] or visit http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html

This slide set is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt

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Call for Potentially Essential Patents

• If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: – Either speak up now or

– Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or

– Cause an LOA to be submitted

Slide #3

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Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings

All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws.

Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims.

Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical

approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings.

Technical considerations remain primary focus

Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets.

Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation.

Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object.---------------------------------------------------------------

See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for

more details.

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Background material

• GRIDMAN home page– http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/16/sg/gridman/

• Draft PAR / 5C from (80216-10/0018r2)– http://www.ieee802.org/16/sg/gridman/docs/80216gman

-10_0018r2.pdf

• Outline of 802.16n System Requirements Document– http://www.ieee802.org/16/sg/gridman/contrib/C80216g

man-10_0022.doc

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Contributions for Presentation– C80216gman-10_0023.doc– Text proposal of 802.16n System Requirements Document (Section 6.2) |

• Kyungkyu Kim, Jungje Son, Youngbin Chang | Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd

– C80216gman-10_0028.pdf– Proposed changes to 802.16n SRD|

• Youngbin Chang, Rakesh Taori and Jungje Son| Samsung

– C80216gman-10_0024.doc– Text proposal to 802.16n System Requirements Document

• Eldad Zeira, Ron Murias | InterDigital

– C80216gman-10_0026.doc– Proposed texts of 802.16n System Requirements

• Sungcheol Chang, Sungkyung Kim, Hyun Lee, Jaesun Cha, Chulsik Yoon| ETRI

– C80216gman-10_0027.doc– Text proposal to 802.16n System Requirement Document (Section 6.1) |

• Anseok Lee, Wooram Shin, Hyun Jae Kim, Kwang Jae Lim | ETRI

– C80216gman-10_0025.doc– Security considerations for mobile to mobile direct communications |

• Eldad Zeira, Alex Reznik| InterDigital

– 802.16m-07-001r1• Military Deployment Scenarios for 802.16m - Mat Sherman BAE Systems

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Discussion on C80216gman-10_0023.doc

• PPDR is a key component of TGn

• Rakesh suggest we preview contributions to see the full set of contributions then come back for decisions.

• We should not get hung up on the current PAR – it can be refined and changed if necessary.

• Consider requirements feature or mechanism at a time.

• M2M PAR has become very focused to low power, large # devices, and small burst transmissions.

• We will have ongoing coordination with M2M.

• Some requirements called for in 0023 may be above the MAC/PHY layer that is the limit of 802.16 scope. These will be called out in the SRD.

• There is a need to facilitate group calls in MAC and PHY. (maybe call it “Group Connection”)

• Consider existing mesh technologies developed in IEEE802 – we should not take on too many functions at one time.

• Viewpoints:– PPDR is an essential part of 16n and closely tied to robust and reliable networks, and should be a part of

16n– PPDR perhaps should be part of 16p (but is not part of 16p PAR today)– PPDR and Smart Grid are applications – the projects provide functionality to serve the applications.

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Discussion on C80216gman-10_0028

• Key requirement 99.999% reliability of power – drives path redundancy.

• Link from home to pole is unclear what standard is used (could be Wi-Fi or WiMAX). From pole back to utility is definite scope for WiMAX

• Reliability of communications is not the same as reliability of power. Communications does not have to be co-located with power infrastructure

• Distributed Generation – will be a part of requirements for distribution

• Sensing and relaying parts are both of distribution –

• Five 9’s of reliability is for power – what is need for communication. They are related, but we don’t know the exact number.

• In-home infrastructure for demand response. Backhaul for HAN. Is that a requirement?

• Public vs private – is a private network a requirement? Yes we think there is a need for utility-owned and –operated networks. Is this a question we have to answer in 16n – does it drive the requirements?

• Performance requirements – should they be separated by what is already addressed? What about low latency – is that better handled in M2M? How does that interact with security and network entry? It is independent of the data burst time. Need further clarification.

• Kirsten – because these are smart grid, it doesn’t mean they belong in 16n.

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Revisit: Applicability of 802.16n amendment on base standard

• Should the 802.16n amendment be written to modify all Clauses of the base 802.16 standard?– The 802.16m amendment has been written with separate PHY and MAC clauses.

(section 16)

– To modify all functionality of 802.16-2009 as well as TGm we will have to make changes in two places.

• Straw Poll from Session #67– Option 1: Make changes for 802.16-2009+16j (2009 as amended by 16j) and 16m:

5 votes

– Option 2: Make changes for 16m only (benefits of 16n only apply to 16m): 7 votes

• Is a hybrid possible? For example some capabilities such as mobile to mobile could be 16m only, but others apply to both.

• Conclusion: We don’t have to decide now – we need to complete the SRD and decide the applicability when we have completed the SRD.

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Draft TG Timetable

• Start of TG, Start SRD July 2010

• Approved SRD Sept 2010

• CFP issued Sept 2010

• System Design Doc Jan 2011

• Interim Doc July 2011

• WG LB issued Sept 2011

• Recirc 1 Nov 2011

• Recirc 2 Jan 2012

• Sponsor Mar 2012

• Approved Std Nov 2012