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SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
Where NetFlow and Packet Capture Complement Each Other
June 17th, 2010
Michael PattersonCEO | Plixer International, Inc.
SHARKFEST ‘10Stanford UniversityJune 14-17, 2010
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
Course Outline
• What NetFlow is and how it works • Egress or Ingress• Comparison of the data exported by NetFlow vs.
Packet Analysis• What’s next in NetFlow, where the technology is going• Summary
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
What is NetFlow?
How does it work?
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
Voice Traffic
Database Traffic
Instant Messenger
Web Browsing
Private & Business Email
Video Conferencing
Music streaming
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
A
B
A - sending to B is one flow entry on every NetFlow capable router / switch in the path
B - acknowledging A is a 2nd flow
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
Scrutinizer Accepts• NetFlow all Versions
• sFlow version 2,4 and 5
• IPFIX
• NetStream
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
2 Flows per Connection2 Flows per Connection
A B AB
Router1
2
4
A B3
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
Who Supports NetFlow?
• 3Com• Adtran• Cisco• Enterasys• Expand• Juniper
• Mikrotik
• nProbe• Riverbed• VMWare• Vyatta• Others…
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
• Cisco
• Enterasys
• Foundry
• Hewlett Packard
• Nortel
• nProbe, nBox
• Many More
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
MAC Addresses and VLAN IDs
• MAC addresses via Cisco ‘Flexible’ NetFlow (aka NetFlow v9)
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
NetFlow or sFlow
• sFlow is an RFC not a standard• Sampling of every N packets technology
– Can’t be used for IP accounting like NetFlow
• Maintained by Inmon• Much less expensive for vendors to implement• Vendors: 3Com, AlaxalA, Alcatel-Lucent, Allied Telesis, Brocade, D-Link,
Extreme Networks, Enterasys, Force10 Networks, H3C, Hewlett-Packard, Hitachi, Juniper Networks, NEC and many others
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
NetFlow NBAR
• NBAR stands for Network Based Application Recognition
• How many of you care if skype or pandora is on your network? Perhaps you don’t mind it but, want to know how much there is. Well, NBAR helps us with deeper packet inspection that isn’t available with traditional NetFlow.
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
Router CPU Impact
• Typically, the impact on the router’s CPU is negligible.
• However, NetFlow NBAR can clobber some routers.
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
Egress or Ingress
• Most of us are exporting NetFlow v5 which only supports ingress NetFlow. This means that traffic coming in on an interface is monitored and exported in NetFlow datagrams.
• Most NetFlow vendors look at where an ingress flow is headed by looking at the destination interface. Using this information, we can determine outbound utilization on any given interface as long as AND THIS IS IMPORTANT, you enable NetFlow v5 on all interfaces of the switch or router.
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
When to use Egress• In WAN compression environments (e.g. Cisco WAAS, Riverbed, etc.), we need to see
traffic after it was compressed. Using Ingress flows causes an over stated outbound utilization on the WAN interface. Egress flows are calculated after compression.
• In multicast environments, ingress multicast flows have a destination interface of 0 because the router doesn’t know what interface they will go out until after it processes the datagrams. Exporting egress flows delivers the destination interface and as a result multiple flows are exported if the flow is headed for multiple interfaces.
• When exporting NetFlow on only one interface of the router or switch. Enabling both on a single interface means that all traffic in and out is exported in NetFlow datagrams.
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
Demonstration
Scrutinizer NetFlow & sFlow Analyzer
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
NetFlow and Packet Analysis?
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
Example 1: FTP Comparison
Steps for the Lab• I started WireShark• I logged in and FTP’d a file• I logged out• I stopped WireShark• 6 Ingress Flows represent
2221 packets• 6 Egress Flows represent
1123 packets
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
IngressLets count packets and compare with
Wireshark
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
Displaying Ingress
Total = 2221 packets
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
Displaying Ingress
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
EgressLets count packets and compare with
Wireshark
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
Displaying Ingress
Total = 1123 packets
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
Displaying Egress
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
Capture DetailsLets compare NetFlow details to
Packet details
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
What about Flags?
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Example 2: www.llbean.com
Steps for the Lab• I started WireShark• I surfed to www.llbean.com• I went to another web site• I stopped WireShark• 2 Ingress Flows represents 11
packets going out from my PC• 1 Ingress Flow represents 13
packets coming back from llbean.com
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
11 packets
From my PC (10.1.7.5) NAT’d by the firewall (66.186.184.62)
2 flows
Cisco Router
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
11 packets
Enterasys Switch
From my PC (10.1.7.5)On the Enterasys switch before the router.
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
13 packets
From www.llbean.com
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
13 packets
From www.llbean.com
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
Example 3: VoIPSteps for the Lab• I started WireShark• I started iaxLite• I made a call• The other end picked up• I hung up• I closed iaxLite• I stopped WireShark• 1 Ingress Flow represents 1364 UDP
packets• 1 Egress Flow represents 1364 UDP
packets
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
1364 packets
My Computer to the PBX
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
1364 packets
My Computer to the PBX
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
1364 packets
PBX to My Computer
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
1364 packets
PBX to My Computer
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
Distributed Collectors
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
Detecting Malware
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Network Behavior Analysis• Network Behavior Analysis
– Constantly monitor NetFlow and sFlow from selected routers and switches
– Looks for traffic patterns defined in behavioral algorithms
– Additional filters can be created to look for unique circumstances
• Demonstration
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
Future of NetFlow
Current Innovations
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Latency via NetFlow
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
RTT and Server Latency
These fields got cut.
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URL Information
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
WAN Optimization Sizing
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Procflow from Gerald Combs
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What is next from NetFlow?
• Packet captures• Sampling Flows • IPv6 is here and we are reporting on it.• Syslogs: Cisco ASA. We already provide
reports on this.
SHARKFEST ‘10 | Stanford University | June 14–17, 2010
Summary
• Ingress Vs. Egress NetFlow• Advanced Filtering to narrow in on problems• How and When to leverage reports• The differences between NetFlow and Packet
Capture• Where the technology is going