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Mat Thompson ocrrnet.ipage.com Ships and Boats for the HO Waterfront

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Page 1: Ships and Boats for the HO Waterfront - potomac-nmra.orgpotomac-nmra.org/PDnewsite/Clinics/MatThompson/ShipsBoatsHO… · Ships and Boats for the HO Waterfront . Oregon Coast Railroad

Mat Thompson

ocrrnet.ipage.com

Ships and Boats for the

HO Waterfront

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Oregon Coast Railroad Waterways

Portland is Pacific Ocean Port

Portland water front served

by railroads

Small Fishing harbor

outside Hoyt Street

Railroad follows

Columbia River 100 miles

Astoria is Pacific Ocean port

Tillamook is fishing port

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Ships and boats are purpose designed and purposes are

local…

…but if it floats, somebody always has a scheme…

Sails gone by World War I…mostly

Wooden boats until mid 50s, then steel

10% out of scale probably works

1/96 ship – OK

1/72 – probably too big

Manufacturers careless about scale

Old boats - wreaks or abandoned

What I think I Know…

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What I think I Know…

Waterline models are best for layouts

Wash resin in soap and water

Resin requires filing and trimming

Solid wire for lines (Tichy .010, .015, .020)

European work boats = colors, U.S. = white

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Oregon Coast Railroad Wharf

• Wharf – Sheet & strip styrene painted concrete

• Notice cleats and bitts and wooden snubbers

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Oregon Coast Railroad Wharf

• Wharf – Sheet & strip styrene painted concrete - wood snubbers

• Notice cleats and bitts - Seaport Models

RATING THE MODEL

INSTRUCTIONS NA

MATERIALS GOOD

DIFFICULTY EASY

APPEAL GOOD

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OCR Seawall

• Mr Plaster Seawall

• FOS Models construction barge

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Campbell Piers

Campbell

• Currently available – $90

• All wood construction, great template

• Wharf has tracks

• Decking is panels - stripwood looks better

• Other craft kits makers have released wood piers

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Walthers Pier

Walthers

• Currently available – crane pier $75, pier $22

• All plastic construction

• Piers have tracks – connect track to land

• 12 x5 – expansion sections available

• Piers can be perpendicular or parallel to land

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Sylvan Ships

Laker Class Steamer Great Lakes Freighter

Great Lakes Lumber Ship West Coast Lumber Ship

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OCR Tramp Steamer – Victory Ship

• 36x 7 soft resin kit (260 scale feet)

• Brief instructions, 3 piece hull, no rigging diagrams

• Available - $300

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OCR Tramp Steamer – Victory Ship

• 36x 7 soft resin kit (260 scale feet)

• Brief instructions, 3 piece hull, no rigging diagrams

• Available - $300

• “The Lakers”, Mainline Modeler, Aug to Oct 1998

RATING THE MODEL

INSTRUCTIONS POOR

MATERIALS FAIR

DIFFICULTY HARD

APPEAL GOOD

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OCR Freighter - Artitec

• Small Freighter – 160 feet

• Highly detailed resin casting and brass parts

• Available - $200

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OCR Freighter - Artitec

• Small Freighter – 160 feet

• Highly detailed resin casting and brass parts

• Available - $200

RATING THE MODEL

INSTRUCTIONS EXCELLENT

MATERIALS EXCELLENT

DIFFICUTY HARD

APPEAL EXCELLENT

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Painting

• Assemble major parts

• Spray paint primer

• Spray paint major color

• Use micro brushes for details

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65 foot Islander – Seaport Models

• River steamer/mail packet/buy boat - 65 feet

• Nicely detailed resin casting and brass parts

• Available - $90

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65 foot Islander – Seaport Models

• River steamer or mail packet - 65 feet

• Nicely detailed resin casting and brass parts

• Available - $90

RATING THE MODEL

INSTRUCTIONS EXCELLENT

MATERIALS EXCELLENT

DIFFICUTY MEDIUM

APPEAL EXCELLENT

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If I had a million ($, hours, space) Deans Marine 1/96 scale offerings

Howard Lloyd article “Rail lines to the seashore” Model Railroader, March 2005.

Ship is kitbashed

S.S. Melanie II

Size: 36” by 5”

Cost: app $375

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Dean’s Marine

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OCR Tug Boats - Walthers

• Large Harbor Tug – raised pilot house to see over car float

• Plastic – hardest fitting is upper deck railing

• Pilot house lowered by trimming along inside cut line

• Available - $50

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OCR Tug Boats - Walthers

• Large Harbor Tug – raised pilot house to see over car float

• Plastic – hardest fitting is upper deck railing

• Pilot house lowered by trimming along inside cut line

• Available - $50

RATING THE MODEL

INSTRUCTIONS GOOD

MATERIALS EXCELLENT

DIFFICUTY MODERATE

APPEAL EXCELLENT

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Pete LaGuardia NYC

Walthers Tug Boat

AMB Covered Barge

NYC Historical Society Paints

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OCR Tug Boat – Seaport Models

• Steam tug “Exeter” 78 feet typical harbor tug

• Resin and brass fittings – good instructions

• Available - $100

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OCR Tug Boat – Seaport Models

• Steam tug “Exeter” 78 feet typical harbor tug

• Resin and brass fittings – good instructions

• Available - $100

RATING THE MODEL

INSTRUCTIONS GOOD

MATERIALS GOOD

DIFFICUTY MODERATE

APPEAL EXCELLENT

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OCR Tug Boat - Sylvan

• Great Lakes Steam Tug Boat 84 feet

• Soft Resin, easy construction

• Available - $60

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OCR Tug Boat - Sylvan

• Great Lakes Steam Tug Boat 84 feet

• Soft Resin, easy construction

• Available - $60

RATING THE MODEL

INSTRUCTIONS GOOD

MATERIALS GOOD

DIFFICUTY MODERATE

APPEAL EXCELLENT

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Floats and Aprons

• Walthers – 18 cars and 3 tracks, turnout on apron

• Frenchman River – 8 cars and 2 tracks with gauntlet track

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OCR Float and Apron

• Walthers float with section left out – 12 car capacity

• Walthers apron modified with 3 tracks

• Use idlers cars to keep engine off apron

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Artitec

• Dutch Company – European prototypes – paint for U.S. look

• Highly detail resin castings – few parts – painting is key

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OCR Artitec Models

Fishing Boat

Wire lines

White paint

Launch

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OCR Artitec Models

Fishing Boat

Wire lines

White paint

Launch

RATING THE MODEL

INSTRUCTIONS GOOD

MATERIALS EXCELLENT

DIFFICUTY HARD

APPEAL EXCELLENT

RATING THE MODEL

INSTRUCTIONS GOOD

MATERIALS EXCELLENT

DIFFICUTY MEDUIM

APPEAL EXCELLENT

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French River

• Multiple locations for cabin

• Net - military modeling camouflage netting

Log Bronc

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French River

• Multiple locations for cabin

• Net military modeling

camouflage netting

Log Bronc

RATING THE MODEL

INSTRUCTIONS GOOD

MATERIALS GOOD

DIFFICULTY EASY

APPEAL ECELLENT

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63’ Sardine Carrier - Seaport

• Typical fishing boat

• Soft Resin, wood, brass parts

• Available - $70

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63’ Sardine Carrier - Seaport

• Typical fishing boat

• Soft Resin, wood, brass parts

• Available - $70

RATING THE MODEL

INSTRUCTIONS GOOD

MATERIALS GOOD

DIFFICULTY MEDIUM

APPEAL EXCELLENT

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Sierra West

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Sierra West RATING THE MODEL

INSTRUCTIONS EXCELLENT

MATERIALS EXCELLENT

DIFFICUTY MODERATE

APPEAL EXCELLENT

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Get ‘em If You Can

Fine Scale Miniatures Pile Driver -- Sheepscot Barge

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Get ‘em While You Can

Fine Scale Miniatures Pile Driver -- Sheepscot Barge

RATING THE MODEL

INSTRUCTIONS EXCELLENT

MATERIALS EXCELLENT

DIFFICULTY MEDIUM

APPEAL EXCELLENT

RATING THE MODEL

INSTRUCTIONS Ummm

MATERIALS GOOD

DIFFICULTY EASY

APPEAL EXCELLENT

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Revell

Harbor Tug

Scale 1:108

Not waterline model

Hull kit basking – 62 feet HO

New York Fire Boat

Scale 1:87

Not waterline model

Hull kit bashing – 150 feet HO

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Names and Markings

Left – Port – Red

Right – Starboard – Green

Names

Home Port – era

Funnel

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Figures

Preiser HO 10352 Merchant Sailors Ashore

Preiser HO 10350 Industrial Workers and Dockers

Preiser HO 10351 Industrial Passengers Sitting

Preiser HO 10353 Ships crewmen

Walthers HO 3153 Tug Crew

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Location Specific

Clyde Puffer - Scotland Station Track Float – NYC, big city

Menhaden – SE US Canal Boat - Europe

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Location Specific

Bump End Barge – Big City

Lobster Boat – New England

Log Bronc– Sawmill Pond

Tow Boat – River, Inland Waterway

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References

MODEL RAILROADER'S GUIDE TO MARINE

TERMINALS AND WHARVES by Bernard Kempinski -

NORTHWEST LEGACY – Sail, Steam & Motorboats by

Jeremy S. Snapp

WHERE RAILS MEET THE SEA by Michael Krieger

THE LAKERS by Eric Hirsimaki

“Rail lines to the Seashore”, Howard Lloyd, Model

Railroader, March 2005

“On the Waterfront”, Paul Dolkos, Dec 2015 – Jan 2016

Model Railroader