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Public Art Committee July 8, 2020 1:00 pmSpecial Meeting City Commission Chambers
AGENDA
I. Call Meeting to Order and Roll Call
II. Pledge of Conduct We may disagree, but we will be respectful of one another. We will direct all comments to issues. We will not engage in personal attacks.
III. Changes to the Order of the Day
IV. Approval of Minutes a) None
V. Citizen Input (Limited to 5 minutes per person - total time of 15 minutes)
VI. Presentations to the Board (Limited to 15 minutes with 5 minutes for rebuttal)
VII. New Business
a) Artworks Storage During Gulfstream Avenue/US 41 Roundabout Construction – David L. Smith, AICP, Manager of Long-Range Planning
b) Update on Mural Project – Leslie Butterfield
VIII. Unfinished Business
a) None
IX. Citizen Input (Limited to 5 minutes per person – total time of 15 minutes)
X. Topics by Board Members
XI. Topics by Staff
a) Public Art Fund budget
XII. Adjournment
VII. New Business
a) Artworks Storage During Gulfstream Avenue/US 41 Roundabout
Construction
Artworks Storage During Gulfstream Avenue/US 41 Roundabout Construction
Introduction
Construction is anticipated to start at the beginning of 2021 for the Gulfstream Avenue/US 41
roundabout and is estimated to take approximately 400 days. During the construction,
temporary diversion lanes will be constructed to allow for movement of traffic through the
intersection. Temporary diversion lanes will be constructed where the artworks “Unconditional
Surrender” and “Complexus” are now on display. Additionally, immediate areas surrounding the
artworks will be construction work zones. Therefore, both of these artworks require being
moved prior to roundabout construction. Please see roadway plan maps in Attachment 5.
“Complexus” “Unconditional Surrender”
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City Commission Actions On June 1, 2020, the City Commission voted to formally accept the donation of Unconditional
Surrender and therefore, the sculpture is city‐owned.
At that meeting, the City Commission referred a number of items to the Public Art Committee
(PAC) for consideration and recommendations, including:
Budget for de‐installation and moving both Unconditional Surrender and Complexus,
Storage within the parameters of best practices, and
Permanent locations of Unconditional Surrender and Complexus upon their
reinstallations.
Please see minutes excerpt from the June 1, 2020 meeting in Attachment 4.
Staff recommended to the City Commission on June 1, 2020 that the artworks be kept in storage
during construction and reinstalled in locations proximate to their current display locations upon
conclusion of construction. The artworks will be stored at the Utilities Department and placed
on appropriate supports and will be protected by coverings and protective barriers.
This recommendation for off‐site storage is based on a number of factors:
Public display requires installation on engineered foundations designed to withstand
hurricane force winds. Engineered foundations are expensive and it does not seem
financially feasible for the City to construct hurricane designed foundations for temporary
display and then reconstruct similar foundations for permanent display the following
year.
The timeline for de‐installation and moving the artwork, prior to 2021, leaves very little
time for public discussion and input as to permanent locations, and the hiring of a
contractor and construction of foundations which require a curing time of at least 30 days
prior to artwork being installed. See Attachment 3 for public comments received for this
meeting.
As evidenced in the quote for de‐installation and moving the artworks, the cost is
extremely expensive and there are insufficient public art funds to pay for making multiple
moves for these artworks. Additionally, the costs of engineered foundations need to be
considered as well.
Cost Estimate for De‐installation and Moving to Storage
In accordance with the Unconditional Surrender loan and donation agreement (attachment 2),
City staff contacted Paula Stoeke, Curator at the Seward Johnson Atelier, Inc. (formerly The
Sculpture Foundation), regarding the de‐installation and moving of the sculpture. The donation
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agreement states the City will contact The Sculpture Foundation to perform the relocation,
removal and/or installation of Unconditional Surrender ‐ please see letter from City Attorney
Fournier to Curator Stoeke (Attachment 1). Staff has also spoken to artist John Henry
(Complexus) about the move. It was determined that the same crew had been used for previous
moves and installations of both artworks, and that the crew is now employed by the Seward
Johnson Atelier, Inc. Therefore, a revised quote was obtained from Curator Stoeke for the de‐
installation and moving of both sculptures (also in Attachment 1).
The de‐installation and moving of the artworks is estimated to take approximately 4 days.
Staff notified Curator Stoeke that the artworks would need to be secured to prevent movement
if a high wind event were to occur during storage in accordance with the City’s insurance
requirements.
Additionally, Curator Stoeke informed staff that trucking companies generally carry insurance
policies for $100,000 when shipping items. Staff informed Curator Stoeke that the artworks
purchase prices were $500,000 for Unconditional Surrender and $450,000 for Complexus and the
insurance should cover these costs for the artworks during transit.
Location of Artworks at Re‐installation
Although staff recommended reinstallation at locations proximate to the current locations of the
artworks, alternative locations can be considered. The City Commission is seeking a
recommendation from the Public Art Committee on possible locations.
A decision on permanent display locations does not necessarily need to be finalized at the July 8,
2020 meeting as roundabout construction will take more than one year to complete. However,
a recommendation should be finalized shortly after the beginning of 2021.
If the Public Art Committee would like to consider placement in a city‐owned park, then the Parks,
Recreation, and Environmental Protection (PREP) Board should be consulted. The PREP Board’s
duties include making recommendations to the City Commission on
The use, maintenance, and development of parks, parkways, and open spaces.
The development of creative concepts of beautification and park utilization designed to
provide for maximum community benefit.
The use, maintenance, and development of recreation facilities and opportunities for
citizens and visitors of the city, in order to afford maximum community benefits through
a program of wholesome recreation.
Board Report to the City Commission
Upon conclusion of this PAC meeting, staff will prepare a Board Report for the PAC Chairman to
present to the City Commission at the next available Commission meeting as the Commission will
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need to approve the budget for de‐installation and moving of the artworks. Staff anticipates
doing this as quickly as possible as time is of the essence.
If a decision(s) has been reached on permanent reinstallation locations, that decision will be
reported to the City Commission. If additional time is needed on permanent reinstallation
locations, the City Commission will be notified of the need for additional time.
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Attachment 1
The Seward Johnson Atelier, Inc. Correspondence and Estimate for Deinstallation and Moving
of Unconditional Surrender and Complexus
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David Smith
From: Paula Stoeke <[email protected]>Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 7:03 PMTo: David SmithCc: Jenee Castellanos; Anna HealySubject: de-installation of artworksAttachments: sarasota de-installations.doc
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Hello, David: Please find attached the estimate that combines de‐installation of the two large sculptures in Sarasota, and their transport to storage. I would be glad to answer any questions for you about the proposal and the tasks. I have spoke with John Henry and he is totally on board with Adam and our team deinstalling his work. Let me know where we go from here. I will consider this an October project, unless I hear that it needs to happen later. Please share this with whomever it is appropriate. Looking forward ‐ My best to you, Paula remote office: 310 573 1856 cell: 310 600 6499 Paula Stoeke Curator THE SEWARD JOHNSON ATELIER, INC. 2525 Michigan Ave Suite A-6 Santa Monica CA 90404 [email protected] t 310 264 2400
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THE SEWARD JOHNSON ATELIER SCULPTURE DE-INSTALLATION ESTIMATE
Prepared for: City of Sarasota 1565 1st Street Sarasota, FL 34236
Description: Seward Johnson:
Unconditional Surrender aka Embracing Peace John Henry:
Complexus
Estimate for de-installation, transportation to storage facility and preparations of the sculpture for storage Date Estimate Submitted: June 18, 2020 SCOPE OF WORK DE-INSTALLATION AND PREPARATION FOR STORAGE $62,787.00 Includes rental of equipment: 60-ton crane, 60’ man-lift, rigging, travel expenses for professional team, labor hours, admin, supplies and materials. TRANSPORT AND OFF-LOAD AT STORAGE SITE $ 7,600.00 TOTAL COST $70,387.00
Contact information: Paula Stoeke, Curator 310.573.1856 or
Jenée Castellanos, Associate Curator 310.264.2400 [email protected] – [email protected]
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Attachment 2
Unconditional Surrender Loan and Donation Agreement
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Attachment 3
Public Comments Received
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David Smith
From: Steven CoverSent: Monday, June 8, 2020 4:58 PMTo: David SmithSubject: FW: unconditional surrender
FYI
From: Thomas Barwin <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 4:57 PM To: Diana Corrigan <[email protected]> Cc: Marlon Brown <[email protected]>; Steven Cover <[email protected]>; Robert Fournier <[email protected]> Subject: RE: unconditional surrender Diana, Thanks for sharing your immediate thoughts. There will be lots of inputs on this matter as various other ideas are also being received. I have staff working on a framework and/or outline in terms of how this discussion and decision making process will continue.
From Sunny Sarasota,
Tom Barwin City Manager City of Sarasota 1565 First Street Sarasota, FL 34236 Phone: (941)954-4102 Fax: (941)954-4129 From: Diana Corrigan <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 12:41 PM To: Jen Ahearn‐Koch <Jen.Ahearn‐[email protected]> Cc: Carl Shoffstall <[email protected]>; Thomas Barwin <[email protected]>; Marlon Brown <[email protected]>; John Lege <[email protected]>; Lou Costa <[email protected]>; Norm Dumaine <[email protected]>; Kevin Bales <[email protected]>; Chris Goglia <[email protected]> Subject: Re: unconditional surrender
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Hi Jen, Tom, Marlon, Carl, Chris and everyone, I would also like to survey our members about this. As Chris shared, I feel we will have some mixed reactions about the statue and I would like to get everyone's opinion. That statue is very tall and it might look out of place, as it would be the tallest thing on the Circle. (I believe it's well over 65 ft tall) Without seeing a concept of what it would like look it's hard to tell.
Do you think it would be possible to create a concept drawing, showing the scale of the statue in comparison to the height of the trees in the park? I believe that would be helpful for everyone in determining what it would look like if placed on the Circle. My biggest concern about moving the statue to St. Armands Circle is giving it the proper, and respectful, visibility it deserves without making it look like it's out of place. To place it in the center of the Circle Park (which is like a retention pond during heavy rains) would hide a great deal of the statue and would make it look like two heads "popping out" in the middle of the park above the trees. I also have concerns, for the statue, because of the many special events that we hold in the park. With car shows, boat shows, art festivals, etc. loading in and out of the park I wouldn't want to see anything accidentally happen to the statue. I do remember, a few years ago, when a driver accidentally jumped the curb and hit the statue.
I did speak to a couple of city residents, last week, who were very upset that the statue was being taken down and away from the bayfront. One lady that I spoke with, who had a European accent, was extremely upset. I suspect that she was a child, in Europe, during WWII and this statue means a great deal to her and she wants to see it remain on the bayfront where everyone can see it. I did watch the commission meeting last week, so I was able to explain to them what is happening and that the city really wants to honor the wishes of the WWII veteran who purchased the statue for the visibility on bayfront 10 years ago. As you can imagine, there is nothing that I would love more than to have another reason to bring tourists to the Circle, however I want to make sure that we do the right thing. I think Chris's idea about placing the statue by the Lido Beach Pool/Pavilion is an excellent option as well ‐ especially since the statue is of a sailor and the beauty of the blue water of the Gulf is in the background. Just a thought. Diana On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 11:18 AM Jen Ahearn‐Koch <Jen.Ahearn‐[email protected]> wrote:
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Hi Carl, Thanks for the suggestion. Did you talk about this with the St Armands folks? Jen ___________________ Jen Ahearn‐Koch Mayor, City of Sarasota 941.914.7646 cell Jen.Ahearn‐[email protected] Sent from my IPhone Please be aware that any emails sent or received by this email address are public public record. Under Florida law, e‐mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e‐mail address released in response to a public‐records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. E‐mail messages sent or received by City of Sarasota officials and employees in connection with official City business are public records subject to disclosure under the Florida Public Records Act.
From: Carl Shoffstall <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 7:42:42 AM To: Jen Ahearn‐Koch <Jen.Ahearn‐[email protected]>; Shelli FreelandEddie <[email protected]>; Liz Alpert <[email protected]>; Hagen Brody <[email protected]>; Willie Shaw <[email protected]>; Thomas Barwin <[email protected]>; Marlon Brown <[email protected]>; John Lege <[email protected]> Cc: Lou Costa <[email protected]>; Norm Dumaine <[email protected]> Subject: unconditional surrender
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Good morning all
I would like to make a suggestion to relocate the statue to St Armands circle. Being a tourist attraction it would be good for business
Thank you for your consideration in this matter
Carl Shoffstall
Florida Playstructures & Water Features Inc
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‐‐ Diana M Corrigan Executive Director St. Armands Circle Association 941-388-1554 phone 941-388-2855 fax [email protected]
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David Smith
From: Irwin Srob <[email protected]>Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 11:04 AMTo: David SmithSubject: Unconditional Surrender Statue (corrected-I was attempting to go South on 41)
Caution: This email originated from outside the City's email system. Be Suspicious of Attachments, Links and Requests for Login Information. Verify requester via phone call before exchanging sensitive information. Think B4U Click! I am writing to you concerning the placement of the Unconditional Surrender Statue. I believe that having a huge statue at a major intersection is a major distraction for drivers, especially new visitors to Sarasota. I was in a major accident a few years ago. A driver rear ended my car, full force, where I was stopped at a yield sign, as I was waiting for traffic to pass so that I could get on and go South on route 41, in front of the Unconditional Surrender Statue. I suspect that the driver who crashed into my car was distracted by the statue. While waiting for the police the traffic backed up on 41 and the Ringling Bridge. Thousands of dollars of damage was done to my car. I suspect that I have not been in the only auto accident taking place near the statue caused by the huge statue distracting drivers. I recommend that’s the statue be permanently removed from this major intersection and placed where it cannot distract drivers or cause additional accidents.
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David Smith
From: Friends of "Seagate" Inc. <[email protected]>Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 12:50 PMTo: Josh Botzenhart; Leslie Butterfield; Emmett Gregory; [email protected]; Jeff Jamison; Wendy
Lerner; Joanne McCobbCc: David SmithSubject: public art committee - letter and images re unconditional surrenderAttachments: photograph of original publication in bound volume.jpg; sequence-8-web.jpg; frame 24 - woman
socks sailor in face.jpg; frame 25 - woman pulls dress down - published image.jpg; frame 26 - woman lets go of dress arm raises again.jpg; frame 27 - woman socks sailor again in the face.jpg; 20200616 letter to public art committee2.pdf; ignorance is no excuse_w_image.pdf
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Dear art committee members and staff, Please review the attached letter, document, and images hereby submitted for the public record regarding the statue known as Unconditional Surrender and your deliberation for a recommendation to the city commissioners in their deliberation about its removal from the Sarasota bay front. Kafi Benz
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June 16, 2020 Dear Public Art Committee Members, Regarding the statue on the bay front, known as Unconditional Surrender, which is about to be removed for intersection construction, I request that you recommend to the city commission that it not be returned to our bay front when the construction is completed.
A decade ago, your public art committee unanimously recommended against accepting the statue and the reasons for that recommendation have not changed. In fact, a contemporary turn of events lends even more weight to making the same recommendation.
A decade ago, I submitted a good deal of documentation about the statue that should be available to you through the city records and archives. Many others provided documentation and statements as well, that should be reviewed for your determination. If you are unable to access those records, I can provide additional materials, please let me know.
The factors that you should consider include both artistic issues and social issues.
Regarding the artistic issues, the following are the primary reasons the statue should not be displayed as public art by Sarasota,
> it is a copyright infringement of the work of a photographer of national stature
> the statue is not “art” – it is a manufactured object that never was touched by an artist, being machine-made in China by technicians
> it is not an original work, as stipulated in the guidelines for public art in this city, multiple copies of this manufactured object were distributed to several locations, and Sarasota was not even the first to receive one
> it is quintessential kitsch, the antithesis of fine art
Additionally, a social issue is a reason the statue should not be displayed on the Sarasota bay front. It’s subject matter is the romanticizing of a violent domination that resonates clearly, adversely affecting those who have suffered such domination and potentially encouraging confusion about behavior that should be discouraged in a healthy society.
Please see the attached document, entitled Ignorance is no excuse, for more details, include this letter and the attached document and images in the official records for your review of this matter, and to be included among the materials provided to the commissioners, as well, for their deliberations on your recommendation. Please contact me with any questions or for more information. Sincerely, Kafi Benz president, Friends of “Seagate” Inc. sculpture studio director, Jim Gary’s Twentieth Century Dinosaurs
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David Smith
From: Friends of "Seagate" Inc. <[email protected]>Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 12:50 PMTo: Josh Botzenhart; Leslie Butterfield; Emmett Gregory; [email protected]; Jeff Jamison; Wendy
Lerner; Joanne McCobbCc: David SmithSubject: public art committee - letter and images re unconditional surrenderAttachments: photograph of original publication in bound volume.jpg; sequence-8-web.jpg; frame 24 - woman
socks sailor in face.jpg; frame 25 - woman pulls dress down - published image.jpg; frame 26 - woman lets go of dress arm raises again.jpg; frame 27 - woman socks sailor again in the face.jpg; 20200616 letter to public art committee2.pdf; ignorance is no excuse_w_image.pdf
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Dear art committee members and staff, Please review the attached letter, document, and images hereby submitted for the public record regarding the statue known as Unconditional Surrender and your deliberation for a recommendation to the city commissioners in their deliberation about its removal from the Sarasota bay front. Kafi Benz
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Ignorance is no excuse Throughout the United States people finally are taking down statues raised to glorify those defending slavery and the egos of those who have sought to remain dominant over others they would enslave. Objections raised by generations of those who understood the continual affront embodied in those statues -- had been dismissed or intimidated into seething silence. So what is Sarasota doing? Sarasota is allowing those who have heard for years about a similar reality projected by our kitsch-on-the-bay, to dismiss the numerous objections to it – because they think it is cute.
socking him in the face, pulling her dress back down before arm is raised to punch him in the face again Four exposures were taken of the original assault. The first of them even shows the woman socking the sailor in the face. Another shows her attempt to keep her dress from being dragged up her body by the man holding her in a headlock with one arm and pushing up her skirt as he exerts his tight grip with the other. He has forced her backward, off balance, on one foot. Her right arm is fending him off even though it is wedged between their bodies. Her one free arm is the only futile defense she has. It is an assault that could be grounds for courts marshal or arrest in any age, even the 1940s. Of all the photographs of celebrations around the country on V-J Day that were published in the edition of Life magazine that included that of Eisenstaedt, his is the only one without clear mutual engagement in the “kissing”. The reality of the photograph waited for decades before understanding caught up with it. But that information was available ten years ago. Voices raised about its reality have encountered intimidation – a tactic used against those who objected to the statues now being removed throughout the nation. Their repulsion is ridiculed and mocked, another familiar tactic. It has taken national protests for action against that kind of bullying. How long will it take for this glorified unwelcome domination to be removed from the bay front of Sarasota? The assault is but one reason the kitsch-on-the-bay should never have been placed on public land. Sarasota considers herself a civic-minded community and one that is proud of the artistic talents displayed – a cultural center of the state. Yet, our kitsch is a copyright infringement of a revered
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photographer. Johnson had an attorney direct him how to tweak the image enough that he could fight back strongly in any lawsuit defending the copyright. Hence the bizarre roses inserted incongruously into the design instead of showing her pinned arm struggling to fend him off. There are no roses in the photograph copied – they are a legal device -- suggested by an expensive attorney. The statue is not art – it was created by a machine built for an extremely wealthy dilettante who wanted to be called an artist. His fabulous wealth enabled him to hire technicians and build facilities to engineer the fabrication of the products of his perverse contempt for authentic artists, using photographs. No authentic artists consider these fabrications “art” – they are manufactured, “kitsch”, and blatant copies of works of artists Johnson envied. Not a single one of his statues is of something original. His inferiority complex drove him to attempt to diminish the works he copied. He added to each, distortions or obscene aspects, about which he proudly proclaimed his perverse enjoyment in published interviews. For our kitsch, he flared out the skirt and provided a peek up it – deliberately enabling a titillating feature for those inclined. Such deep undercuts are not found in fine art sculpture. The statue had to be reinforced specially, to enable it. Our manufactured kitsch fails to meet the city policy of displaying original works for public art. There are numerous iterations of the statue. It certainly is not unique to Sarasota. Ignorance of the factors that make this statue an embarrassment to Sarasota, is no excuse. All of this information (and more) was provided from many sources a decade ago to newspapers, government officials, and the public. The public art committee unanimously rejected it. One vote broke a tie at the commission table when a commissioner voted for it because of a relative being in the navy. Recently, the former commissioner wrote eloquently about those we had enslaved and their descendants who have had to encounter statues dedicated to those who wanted to dominate them. I hope consideration of such affronts is extended to those having to pass by the kitsch-on-the-bay, who cringe internally by having it displayed on public land and knowing their objections to the glorification of that unwelcome domination have likewise, been dismissed. Of all the factors against keeping that statue, it is the most profound. It is time for Sarasota to refrain from displaying representations of unwelcome domination, to adopt a commitment against violence, to respect things such as copyright protections, to live up to artistic standards touted vainly while that manufactured kitsch stands on our bay.
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David Smith
From: Kelly Franklin <[email protected]>Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:31 PMTo: Josh Botzenhart; Leslie Butterfield; Emmett Gregory; [email protected]; Jeff Jamison; Wendy
Lerner; Joanne McCobbCc: Steven Cover; David Smith; Shayla GriggsSubject: Unconditional Surrender - letter for packetAttachments: History-and-Future-of-Unconditional-Surrender-in-Sarasota.docx
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Dear Members of the Public Art Committee, The maturation of the 10 year loan agreement for Unconditional Surrender, and the necessity of removing it from its current location due to the coming roundabout construction, have raised the issue of the future of this "controversial" sculpture in Sarasota. I am attaching here a brief history of the statue, how it came to be here, and the growing awareness of the untenability of our City's continuing to display it prominently (or at all) in the #MeToo era. I have been vocal in publicly raising my concerns about what this statue depicts: https://www.heraldtribune.com/opinion/20200611/guest‐editorial‐surrender‐statue‐isnt‐love‐joy‐or‐peace‐its‐assault Now that Sarasota has fulfilled its legal obligation to display the statue in situ for the 10 year period required in the loan agreement, I would recommend that the City exercise its right to ask the artist's estate to reclaim it and display it at his semi‐private museum in New Jersey, where a host of his other creations reside. I am immune‐compromised, and will therefore be unable to attend the meeting of the Public Art Committee on July 8 because of the COVID‐19 threat, but I would ask that this material be included in the official meeting packet and accepted as my public input. Thank you for your consideration. Kelly Franklin Laurel Park
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The History & Future of Unconditional Surrender in Sarasota
How it came to be here
A Styrofoam version of Seward Johnson’s Unconditional Surrender statue was brought to Sarasota in 2005 for temporary display as part of “Season of Sculpture” exhibition mounted by a private non-profit. Several WW-II area veterans and their supporters became attached to the statue and made arrangements to purchase a metal version which would be donated to the City after display in the same location for a period of 10 years, ending June 10, 2020.
To say that this donation was contested is an understatement. There was a multi-year civic battle pitting veterans against artists and the Public Art Committee (which found, 5-0 that the artwork did not meet Sarasota’s public art criteria and recommended refusing the donation). Although concerns about the apparently forced nature of the kiss were raised by some, the statue’s method of selection, lack of uniqueness, method of fabrication, and intentional copyright infringement were the primary factors debated in public. In a 3:2 vote, the City Commission decided to override the recommendation of its Public Art Committee; the deciding vote came from then-Mayor Kelly Kirschner, who cited the sentimental reason that his brother was in the Navy.
VJ-Day in Times Square
August 15, 1945, or “V-J Day” (Victory over Japan) marked the end of World War II. From all accounts, there was much spontaneous celebration and kissing in the streets that day, in Sarasota, New York City, and throughout the country.
There was a bit of a craze at the time called the “Hollywood Kiss,” which entailed couples consciously performing exaggerated versions of an idealized smooch for eager photographers. As documented on a website created when the statue’s presence in Sarasota was first debated, some of the kissing that occurred that day consisted of consensual exchanges between individuals who knew one another, or strangers mutually engaging in the celebration, and some were not. This one was not. Some were brief busses. The one embraced by history was forceful, prolonged, and invasive, and looks like just what it was - a unilateral act of conquest
The iconic photo
As described by Alfred Eisenstadt himself in the captions of his famous photograph as well as subsequent memoirs, what he witnessed, and shot 4 photographs of in Times Square that day, was of an inebriated sailor stumbling and grabbing a woman from the crowd.
In both Eisdenstadt’s 4 frames and those of the public domain snapshot by Navy photographer Victor Jorgensen of the same pair from the waist up, the faces of the subjects are obscured, and over the years, many different individuals came forward to claim to be either the nurse or sailor.
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In 2012, a book entitled The Kissing Sailor, by a naval college professor and a historian, settled the long-running mystery by using contemporaneous accounts from the participants and onlookers and forensic analysis of the photos (ironically, the definitive proof is that the sailor was on his first date with the woman he ultimately married, and her face is clearly visible over the shoulder of the sailor in one of the 4 frames Eisenstaedt shot that day).
The sailor in Eisdenstadt’s image was George Mendonsa, of Rhode Island. The “nurse” was Greta Zimmer (later Friedman), an Austrian-born Jewish émigré whose parents died in Nazi concentration camps. Working as a dental hygienist at the time, Greta ventured to Times Square on her lunch hour to see if the rumors she had heard about the war ending were true. Mendonsa, who had seen combat in the Pacific, spotted a woman on the street wearing a white uniform who reminded him of the nurses tending wounded sailors on a battleship. He bowled into her, knocked her off her feet, put her in a headlock, bent her over backward into a physically painful and subordinate position, and forcibly kissed her for 4-5 seconds while she struggled and clutched her purse and balled up her fist to push him away. He did this while a crowd looked on in shock and two photographers took pictures. So...the most famous kiss in history was a forced kiss
While individuals who lived through that day bristle when the modern phrase “sexual assault” is applied retroactively to the events that occurred on that unique moment in history, the case that the incident in Times Square was unilateral, forceful, and lacked consent, is best made by the unwilling participant:
“It wasn’t my choice to be kissed,” Greta stated in a 2005 interview. “The guy just came over and grabbed!” she said. “That man was very strong. I wasn’t kissing him. He was kissing me. I did not see him approaching, and before I know it I was in this tight grip.”
Once you hear the truth, the image unwinds before your eyes. His left arm is headlocking her. His right arm has a tight grip on her waist. Her chin is tucked back, pulling away. Her hand, in one of the less iconic frames, is balled into a fist against his chest. Her body says no. His body says mine.” From Medium
In interviews, Greta said that she was proud to be part of an iconic moment in history, but also spoke of the shame that kept her from coming forward for 30 years lest her fiancé think her a willing participant. Even “…Time, whose parent company discontinued the monthly publication of Life magazine in 2000, noted that “many people view the photo as little more than the documentation of a very public sexual assault, and not something to be celebrated.”
My concern is not to litigate what the proper label is for George Mendonsa’s unilateral and aggressive actions on a unique day in history in another city 75 years ago, but rather about how we end the horror show we’ve created on our bay front turning a frozen moment in time from the past into an interactive tourist attraction in the present.
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To eyes that did not live through WWII, and particularly for those who have experienced sexual violence, it is repellent and dangerous to see loving couples contorting themselves to emulate a forced kiss that Greta herself refused numerous entreaties to recreate because, as she told the Veteran’s History Project in 2005, “it wasn't a romantic event”.
One need not hear the story in Greta’s own words in order to judge from the off-balance stance of the female figure, the deep and painful arch to her back, and locked elbow around her head, that we are witnessing a vanquishing.
While stock and trade of romance novels, in real life, being forced to submit to the will of another is the stuff of nightmares, not dreams. It is, therefore, as I have argued, unconscionable to use a 3D rendition of this incident as a tourist attraction and kissing post.
Sarasota’s reputation – do we want to be known as the city with the “#MeToo Monument?
That the statue is a popular site is not in dispute. Visiting Unconditional Surrender is listed as #25 of the 130 things to do in Sarasota on Tripadvisor. However, as was argued in 2010 and is still true today, few, if any, of the 2,500,000 individuals who visit Sarasota each year are come solely for the purpose of seeing the statue – it is an en passant stop, not an economic driver for the city.
There was both local “Iconic kiss may not be something to celebrate,” and national media coverage of the story behind the photograph when Greta died in 2016 (CBS News, Smithsonian, Wall Street Journal), It made international news when Unconditional Surrender was tagged with #MeToo the day after George Mendonsa died in 2019 (CNN, Huffington Post, NPR, The Guardian, BBC, NBC, The Telegraph, The Washington Post, USA Today.
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The growing awareness is already impacting Sarasota’s reputation. For example:
Makes one ill to even drive by: As a long time visitor of Sarasota over the years, I was disappointed by this addition to the harbor area. It achieves the rare combination of vaguely artistic kitsch mixed with a celebration of a time and moment when casual harassment or even assault was accepted, even romanticized. Sarasota is capable of so much better, particularly when thinking of using a symbol to honor the sacrifices and celebrate a hard won victory at the cost of so many lives… The last time we drove by it. I found it useful as an educational opportunity to explain acceptable behavior and changing social ways to my nearing teenage son. Jason R – Meadville Pennsylvania - June 2019 - Traveled with family May 2019
Whither from here?
In a #MeToo era, it is simply untenable for Sarasota to keep displaying this statue where it has the way it has. Some have suggested adding the #MeToo tagging back to the statue, which would be particularly appropriate given Seward Johnson’s lack of respect for the intellectual property of the artists and photographers he adulterated. Indeed, other problematic statuary symbols are being re-thought and redisplayed in ways that reflect the changing perspectives on the individuals and events they valorize. But such a change to this statue would not be respectful to the memories of those who served in that war or lived through those tumultuous years.
Despite the attempts of some through the years to equate this statue and the event it depicts as a fitting tribute to the sacrifice and valor of our armed forces, that perception is not universally shared, even among members of the military. For example, the option proposed by columnist Carrie Seidman, of displaying the statue at the Sarasota National Cemetery seems like a Solomonic solution, the cemetery has declined it in the past as inappropriate.
Given the inherent affordances of the sculpture (most specifically its scale), emulation in this Instragram era seems inevitable even if properly signed and moved to a less heavily foot-trafficked piece of public land. It is hard to hide a 26 foot tall material #MeToo metonym, so if it stays on public property anywhere in Sarasota, it seems inevitable that the statue will invite future defacement, provoke pain for survivors of sexual violence, set the wrong example of heroic and acceptable behavior, and damage our city’s reputation.
According to the terms of the 2010 Loan & Donation Agreement for this statue:
“...The city is free to sell or to loan, or to convey "unconditional surrender" to a third party. The city is free to decide that simply doesn't want to own it anymore and can contact the sculptor foundation to take it back and they have 90 days...”
Thus, my recommendation would be to exercise that clause in the donation agreement and return the statue to Seward Johnson’s estate for display at Grounds for Sculpture, the semi-private open air museum he founded in New Jersey
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From: Steven CoverSent: Thursday, June 4, 2020 7:20 AMTo: Ryan Chapdelain; David SmithSubject: FW: Unconditional Surrender
FYI
From: Virginia Hoffman <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2020 7:10 AM To: Thomas Barwin <[email protected]> Cc: Willie Shaw <[email protected]>; Liz Alpert <[email protected]>; Shelli FreelandEddie <[email protected]>; Hagen Brody <[email protected]>; Robert Fournier <[email protected]>; Steven Cover <[email protected]>; Marlon Brown <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Unconditional Surrender According to the Observer the Commission took action to place the statue in storage. If this is true, I wish you would have infromed me of this. That changes things.
On Jun 3, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Virginia Hoffman <[email protected]> wrote: Do you see a condesending tone in Barwin’s response?
Begin forwarded message: From: Thomas Barwin <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Unconditional Surrender Date: June 3, 2020 at 12:01:36 PM EDT To: Virginia Hoffman <[email protected]>, Jen Ahearn-Koch <[email protected]> Cc: Willie Shaw <[email protected]>, Liz Alpert <[email protected]>, Shelli FreelandEddie <[email protected]>, Hagen Brody <[email protected]>, Robert Fournier <[email protected]>, Steven Cover <[email protected]>, Marlon Brown <[email protected]> Dear Ms. Hoffman, As always, thank you sharing your thoughts. What we are going through these days reflects and perhaps should remind us of the importance of not only the diversity of thought, but the reality of the equal importance of perpetual reconciliation when all do
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not agree, which is virtually also a perpetual circumstance. Although decisions have yet to be made related to Unconditional Surrender’s next location, like you I hope and believe the community will accept whatever direction we go in. Thanks, stay well.
From Sunny Sarasota,
Tom Barwin
City Manager City of Sarasota 1565 First Street Sarasota, FL 34236 Phone: (941)954-4102 Fax: (941)954-4129
From: Virginia Hoffman <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 10:03 AM To: Thomas Barwin <[email protected]>; Jen Ahearn‐Koch <Jen.Ahearn‐[email protected]> Cc: Willie Shaw <[email protected]>; Liz Alpert <[email protected]>; Shelli FreelandEddie <[email protected]>; Hagen Brody <[email protected]>; Robert Fournier <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Unconditional Surrender Mr. Barwin, For the last several years, you took the oversight of this statue under your discretion, so it makes no sense to have a special meeting of the Public Art Advisory Board that is adjourned under the COVID environment. Additionally, the city does not own the statue. It was never officially accepted into the public art program and remained on loan for the duration of its occupancy within the public right of way. Please reconsider this decision. Whatever you do with the statue, there will be unhappy people. Just make a decision and do it. I believe if you do so, the backlash will be short‐lived. As you know, I feel you should return it to the Seward Johnson Foundation, who owns the statue. Thus there is no reason to spend tax dollars on it. Another solution is to ask the foundation what they would like to do with it, and they should pay to relocate if that is their wish. Virginia
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On May 31, 2020, at 8:14 PM, Jen Ahearn‐Koch <Jen.Ahearn‐[email protected]> wrote: Thanks Virginia for your input on Unconditional Surrender. I appreciate it! Jen ___________________ Jen Ahearn‐Koch Mayor, City of Sarasota 941.914.7646 cell Jen.Ahearn‐[email protected] Sent from my IPhone Under Florida law, e‐mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e‐mail address released in response to a public‐records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. E‐mail messages sent or received by City of Sarasota officials and employees in connection with official City business are public records subject to disclosure under the Florida Public Records Act.
From: Virginia Hoffman <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 11:33:28 AM To: Thomas Barwin <[email protected]> Cc: Jen Ahearn‐Koch <Jen.Ahearn‐[email protected]>; Robert Fournier <[email protected]> Subject: Unconditional Surrender Caution: This email originated from outside the City's email system. Be Suspicious of Attachments, Links and Requests for Login Information. Verify requester via phone call before exchanging sensitive information. Think B4U Click! Hi Tom, I hope all is well with you & your family. A good place as an alternate location for Unconditional Surrender is the out by Mote Marine Lab and City Island Park. There is a circular drive with a mound on the north side that would be a proper setting, and it’s proximity to the Mote Lab as a tourist spot would give it excellent access and plenty of room for whatever.
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Of course, I would prefer to have the city return it. Along with many reasons why it’s inappropriate and does not conform with Sarasota’s public art standards. I deeply resent spending money on it during this time, mainly when we do not even own it. Good luck, Virginia Virginia Hoffman 2582 Hawthorne St. Sarasota, FL 34239 941 400-5217 [email protected]
Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public-records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. E-mail messages sent or received by City of Sarasota officials and employees in connection with official City business are public records subject to disclosure under the Florida Public Records Act.
Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public-records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. E-mail messages sent or received by City of Sarasota officials and employees in connection with official City business are public records subject to disclosure under the Florida Public Records Act.
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City Commission Minutes Excerpt of June 1, 2020
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02:40:39 >>Vice-Mayor Freeland Eddie: I WAS AGAIN GOING TO SAY THANK 02:40:41 YOU TO MR. FOURNIER FOR PRESENTING THOSE OPTIONS. 02:40:44 I DID WANT TO SPEAK TO SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE WE'RE DOING TWO 02:40:47 THINGS. 02:40:48 ONE, WE'RE ADDRESSING THE NEEDS BASED ON THIS CONTRACT, AND 02:40:51 I DON'T DISCOUNT THE RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY MR. FOGLE IN 02:40:54 TERMS OF RECOMMENDING THAT WE DON'T DISRUPT SERVICES, THAT 02:40:57 ISN'T WHAT MY ISSUE IS. 02:40:59 MY ISSUE IS HAVING THE ABILITY TO EITHER TERMINATE AND/OR 02:41:02 RENEGOTIATE SERVICES IF WE DEEM THAT BECAUSE OF A PANDEMIC, 02:41:06 HURRICANE OR SOMETHING, THAT WE HAVE TO CLOSE FACILITIES 02:41:08 THAT WE'RE NOT NEEDLESSLY SPENDING ADDITIONAL DOLLARS IF WE
02:41:13 HAVE THE ABILITY EMBEDDED IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE CONTRACT TO 02:41:16 RENEGOTIATE THE TERMS. 02:41:17 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU. 02:41:18 THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. 02:41:19 MS. GRIGGS, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TO THIS 02:41:25 ITEM? 02:41:25 >>Shayla Griggs: NO, MADAM MAYOR, NOT TO THIS ITEM. 02:41:29 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU. 02:41:29 COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS 02:41:31 PERTAINING TO THIS ITEM? 02:41:32 SEEING NONE, DO I HAVE A MOTION? 02:41:38 VICE MAYOR. 02:41:38 >>Vice-Mayor Freeland Eddie: YES, I WOULD MOVE THAT WE 02:41:42 PROCEED WITH A FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE SECOND EXTENSION OF 02:41:46 THE AGREEMENT FOR SWIMMING POOL MAINTENANCE SERVICES WITH 02:41:49 COVERT OP PROPERTY SERVICES, LLC AND ALSO DIRECT STAFF TO 02:41:57 DISCUSS THE ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT WAS PROPOSED BY 02:42:01 MR. FOURNIER TO SEE IF WE CAN REACH A MUTUAL AGREEMENT. 02:42:04 IF NO AGREEMENT CAN BE REACHED, I WOULD STILL MOVE FOR 02:42:09 APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT, BUT I WOULD ASK US TO CONSIDER 02:42:11 THIS LANGUAGE FOR FUTURE AGREEMENTS. 02:42:14 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: IS THERE A SECOND? 02:42:15 COMMISSIONER SHAW. 02:42:16 >>Willie Charles Shaw: MADAM MAYOR, SECONDING THE MOTION 02:42:19 WITH THE ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE PROPOSAL THAT THE VICE MAYOR
02:42:24 MAKES. 02:42:24 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU. 02:42:25 THERE'S BEEN A MOTION AND A SECOND. 02:42:27 ANY COMMENTS, COMMISSIONERS? 02:42:29 MAY WE HAVE A ROLL-CALL VOTE PLEASE, MS. GRIGGS. 02:42:32 >>Shayla Griggs: AHEARN-KOCH? 02:42:35 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: YES. 02:42:36 >>Liz Alpert: YES. 02:42:37 >>Hagen Brody: YES. 02:42:39 >>Vice-Mayor Freeland Eddie: YES. 02:42:41 >>Willie Charles Shaw: YES. 02:42:42 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: THE MOTION PASSES 5-0. 02:42:52 THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS NEW BUSINESS 6.1 REGARDING 02:42:56 ACTION TO BE TAKEN ON THE EXPIRATION OF A 10-YEAR LOAN AND 02:43:00 DONATION AGREEMENT FOR "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER."
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02:43:02 MR. BROWN. 02:43:08 >>Marlon Brown: MAYOR, IF I COULD ASK FOR A QUICK 02:43:10 FIVE-MINUTE BREAK BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THE 02:43:14 DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS AND MANY OF THEM ON THE NEXT FEW ITEMS. 02:43:17 WE NEED TO FIX THE ISSUE WITH THE PHONES AS IT WOULD BE 02:43:20 DISRUPTIVE TO THE COMMISSION MEETING. 02:43:22 IF YOU CAN GIVE US FIVE MINUTES TO FIX THIS ISSUE AND THEN 02:43:26 WE'LL COME BACK ON, PLEASE. 02:43:28 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: WE ARE IN RECESS FIVE MINUTES. 02:43:30 WE WILL RECONVENE AT 2:48.
02:43:34 [RECESS] 03:05:00 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: ALL RIGHT. 03:05:03 SO I WOULD LIKE TO RECONVENE THE MEETING OF JUNE 1st, 03:05:07 MONDAY, JUNE 1, REGULAR SARASOTA CITY COMMISSION MEETING. 03:05:10 THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS NEW BUSINESS. 03:05:18 THIS ITEM PERTAINS TO ACTION TO BE TAKEN UPON THE EXPIRATION 03:05:22 OF THE 10-YEAR LOAN AND DONATION AGREEMENT FOR 03:05:25 "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER." 03:05:26 AT THIS TIME, I'LL ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY TO MAKE A 03:05:29 PRESENTATION AND THEN AFTER THE PRESENTATION, WE WILL GO TO 03:05:33 CITIZENS' INPUT, COMMISSIONERS, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE 03:05:37 QUESTIONS AFTER THAT. 03:05:37 VICE MAYOR, GO AHEAD. 03:05:40 MS. GRIGGS. 03:05:45 GO AHEAD, VICE MAYOR. 03:05:47 >>Vice-Mayor Freeland Eddie: THANK YOU. 03:05:48 JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, SINCE THERE ARE TWO PIECES OF THE 03:05:50 PUBLIC ART THAT ARE REQUESTED TO BE RELOCATED, BOTH 03:05:53 "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER" AND "COMPLEXUS," SHOULDN'T THE 03:05:59 ACTION INCLUDE THAT AS WELL FOR CLARITY? 03:06:02 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: I THINK THAT IS A GOOD POINT. 03:06:04 MR. FOURNIER? 03:06:05 >>Robert Fournier: YES, IT WILL. 03:06:06 I WAS PRIMARILY CONCERNED WITH "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER"
03:06:10 BECAUSE OF THE LOAN. 03:06:11 I HOPE IT'S CLEAR FROM THE MATERIALS THAT BOTH PIECES DO 03:06:14 NEED TO TEMPORARILY BE RELOCATED. 03:06:16 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: MR. FOURNIER, WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD 03:06:18 WITH YOUR PRESENTATION? 03:06:19 >>Robert Fournier: I DO HAVE A MEMORANDUM TO THE CITY 03:06:21 COMMISSION THAT'S IN YOUR AGENDA PACKAGE THAT HOPEFULLY 03:06:25 YOU'VE SEEN IT. 03:06:27 PRETTY MUCH GOES OVER WHAT I WANT TO ADDRESS TODAY ON THIS. 03:06:30 I'LL PROVIDE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THAT AND TALK QUICKLY ABOUT 03:06:33 TWO THINGS, WHICH IS THE CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP OF THE 03:06:35 "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER" AND THE NEED FOR A TEMPORARY 03:06:40 RELOCATION AND CONCLUDE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT I 03:06:43 THINK IS MOST IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER 03:06:46 TODAY. 03:06:46 WITH REGARD TO THE CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP FOR THE PAST TEN 03:06:49 YEARS, "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER" HAS BEEN ON LOAN TO THE 03:06:53 CITY FOR PUBLIC DISPLAY, BUT THE CITY WAS NOT THE OWNER.
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03:06:57 ORIGINALLY, THE OWNER WAS MR. JACK CURRAN, A WORLD WAR II 03:07:01 VETERAN, WHO PURCHASED "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER" FROM THE 03:07:04 SCULPTURE FOUNDATION, A NONPROFIT NEW JERSEY CORPORATION. 03:07:10 SUBSEQUENTLY, WHEN MR. CURRAN PASSED AWAY IN 2015, I BELIEVE 03:07:14 IT WAS, THE TITLE TO THE PIECE PASSED TO HIS TRUSTEES UNDER 03:07:19 HIS TESTAMENTARY TRUST. 03:07:21 BECAUSE I WAS AWARE THAT THIS 10-YEAR LOAN IN DONATION TERM
03:07:27 WOULD EXPIRE THIS JUNE, I WAS ABLE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE 03:07:30 TRUSTEES AND TO DISCUSS THE AGREEMENT WITH THEM. 03:07:34 I ADVISED THEM OF MY OPINION THE WAY THE AGREEMENT HAD BEEN 03:07:38 WRITTEN THAT THE TRANSFER OF TITLE TO THE CITY UPON THE 03:07:41 EXPIRATION OF THE TEN YEARS DID NOT HAPPEN AUTOMATICALLY AND 03:07:45 REQUIRED SOME AFFIRMATIVE ACTION ON THE PART OF THE TRUSTEES 03:07:50 AND THAT THE DONATION SHOULD BE MEMORIALIZED IN SOME SORT OF 03:07:54 A WRITTEN DOCUMENT. 03:07:55 SO I PREPARED THE BILL OF SALE THAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR 03:07:58 MATERIALS AND ASKED THEM TO SIGN IT, WHICH THEY GRACIOUSLY 03:08:02 DID. 03:08:03 SO THE CITY NOW HAS THE FULLY EXECUTED BILL OF SALE AND IS 03:08:06 THE OWNER NOW FOR THE FIRST TIME. 03:08:08 BEFORE THE BILL OF SALE WAS SIGNED UNDER THE LOAN AND 03:08:13 DONATION AGREEMENT FOR TEN YEARS, THE CITY HAD AGREED TO THE 03:08:16 PUBLIC DISPLAY OF "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER" AND THERE WAS A 03:08:20 RESTRICTION IN THE AGREEMENT THAT SAID THE CITY COULD MOVE 03:08:23 "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER" BUT ONLY WITHIN THE CONFINES OF 03:08:27 BAYFRONT PARK AND ONLY TO A LOCATION THAT WOULD BE VISIBLE 03:08:31 TO MOTORISTS AND ACCESSIBLE TO PEDESTRIANS. 03:08:35 THAT RESTRICTION HAS NOW EXPIRED. 03:08:38 I BELIEVE THAT THE TEN YEAR LOAN AND DONATION AGREEMENT WAS 03:08:43 SET UP FIRST AS A WAY FOR MR. CURRAN TO PAY OFF THE PURCHASE 03:08:47 PRICE OF THE PIECE. 03:08:48 AS I RECALL, HE WAS WAITING FOR SOME CDs TO MATURE BEFORE
03:08:54 HE PAID IT OFF, WHICH HE DID SOONER THAN LATER. 03:09:00 SECONDLY, IT WAS SET UP FOR THE CITY TO HAVE A TRIAL PERIOD 03:09:03 OF TEN YEARS TO SEE HOW THE DISPLAY WAS RECEIVED BY THE 03:09:06 PUBLIC. 03:09:06 AS YOU MAY RECALL, IT WAS NOT A UNANIMOUS COMMISSION 03:09:10 DECISION AT THE TIME AND LIKEWISE THE PUBLIC. 03:09:13 THERE WERE MANY, MANY PEOPLE IN FAVOR BUT MANY ALSO WERE NOT 03:09:15 FOR REASONS WHICH THEY CAN OBVIOUSLY EXPLAIN THEMSELVES. 03:09:19 BUT NOW AT THIS POINT SINCE THE CITY OWNS "UNCONDITIONAL 03:09:22 SURRENDER" OUTRIGHT, THE CITY IS FREE TO PERMANENTLY 03:09:26 RELOCATE "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER" TO ANOTHER LOCATION IN 03:09:30 THE CITY. 03:09:31 THE CITY IS FREE TO SELL OR TO LOAN, OR TO CONVEY 03:09:34 "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER" TO A THIRD PARTY. 03:09:37 THE CITY IS FREE TO DECIDE THAT SIMPLY DOESN'T WANT TO OWN 03:09:41 IT ANYMORE AND CAN CONTACT THE SCULPTURE FOUNDATION TO TAKE 03:09:46 IT BACK AND THEY HAVE 90 DAYS TO TELL YOU. 03:09:48 OF COURSE, OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN RETAIN AND DISPLAY AS IT'S 03:09:53 BEEN DONE AND RETAIN OWNERSHIP IN WHICH CASE REALLY NO 03:09:56 MOTION IS REQUIRED.
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03:09:57 FOR THE CHANGE IN THE LOCATION TEMPORARILY, THIS IS REALLY 03:10:00 THE IMMEDIATE ISSUE. 03:10:03 BECAUSE CITY STAFF ANTICIPATES THAT WORK ON THE NEW 03:10:06 ROUNDABOUT WILL COMMENCE IN EARLY 2021 AND BOTH 03:10:10 "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER" AND "COMPLEXUS" HAVE TO BE MOVED
03:10:15 AT LEAST TEMPORARILY TO ACCOMMODATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE 03:10:18 GULFSTREAM/U.S. 41 ROUNDABOUT. 03:10:20 STAFF HAS MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COMMISSION THAT 03:10:27 HAS TWO PARTS. 03:10:27 THE FIRST PART OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO PUT BOTH 03:10:30 "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER" AND "COMPLEXUS" IN STORAGE 03:10:34 TEMPORARILY. 03:10:34 THE SECOND PART OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS WHEN THE 03:10:38 CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROUNDABOUT HAS BEEN COMPLETED TO 03:10:42 RELOCATE BOTH PIECES BACK AS CLOSE AS PRACTICAL TO WHERE 03:10:47 THEY ARE TODAY. 03:10:48 MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COMMISSION TODAY IS THAT THE 03:10:51 COMMISSION FOCUS ON THE FIRST PART OF THE STAFF 03:10:53 RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE THAT IS THE IMMEDIATE ISSUE, AND THAT 03:10:56 IS TO DECIDE WHETHER YOU WANT TO FOLLOW A STAFF 03:11:00 RECOMMENDATION TO STORE THE PUBLIC ART WHILE THE ROUNDABOUT 03:11:04 IS BEING CONSTRUCTED. 03:11:05 I SUGGEST THAT YOU COULD CERTAINLY DEFER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT 03:11:10 PERMANENT RELOCATION OR OWNERSHIP TO ANOTHER DAY WHEN 03:11:14 HOPEFULLY MORE CITIZENS WILL FIND IT EASIER TO PARTICIPATE 03:11:17 IN THE MEETING, POST-PANDEMIC, THAT IS. 03:11:20 IF YOU DECIDE TO STORE BOTH PIECES FOR A YEAR OR SO, THERE 03:11:25 WOULD SEEM TO BE PLENTY OF TIME TO DECIDE THEIR PERMANENT 03:11:29 FUTURE WHILE THEY WERE IN STORAGE. 03:11:30 NOW, IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO PUT "COMPLEXUS" AND
03:11:34 "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER" IN STORAGE, THEN YOU DO NEED TO 03:11:38 MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHERE THEY SHOULD GO DURING 03:11:41 CONSTRUCTION. 03:11:41 THAT COULD EITHER BE TEMPORARY LOCATION OR PERMANENT 03:11:44 LOCATION. 03:11:45 ONE ALTERNATIVE THAT THE MAYOR HAS SPOKEN TO ME ABOUT AND 03:11:50 SHE CAN, I'M SURE, FURTHER ELABORATE, BUT SPOKE TO I BELIEVE 03:11:54 THE CHAIR OF THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY 03:11:56 OF A LOAN OF "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER" TO ANOTHER 03:11:59 MUNICIPALITY, WHICH IS WITHIN YOUR AUTHORITY TO DO, IF 03:12:02 THERE'S ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY THAT WOULD LIKE TO TAKE IT 03:12:06 TEMPORARILY AND THEIR CITIZENS MIGHT ENJOY SEEING IT. 03:12:09 SO THAT CONCLUDES WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. 03:12:12 I KNOW I'VE SPOKEN AT LENGTH ABOUT THIS WITH DAVID SMITH 03:12:15 FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF DAVID IS 03:12:18 ON THE LINE OR IF HE'S THERE JUST TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR IF 03:12:22 HE WOULD LIKE TO ADD FURTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THE TEMPORARY 03:12:26 RELOCATION. 03:12:27 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: GO AHEAD, MR. SMITH. 03:12:30 >>David Smith: HELLO. 03:12:32 DAVID SMITH WITH PLANNING STAFF. 03:12:33 I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THERE IS SIGNIFICANT
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03:12:41 COST FOR MOVING EACH OF THE ART PIECES. 03:12:44 BOTH OF THE ART PIECES ARE WORTH ABOUT $500,000 EACH. 03:12:49 WE DID REACH OUT TO JOHN HENDRY WHO IS THE ARTIST FOR
03:12:54 "COMPLEXUS." 03:12:56 HE'S GIVEN US AN ESTIMATED COST OF ABOUT $26,000 TO MOVE 03:13:00 "COMPLEXUS," AND THAT WOULD MOVE IT TO UTILITIES DEPARTMENT. 03:13:04 BUT WE WOULD ALSO NEED TO CREATE A NEW FOUNDATION ONCE IT 03:13:10 WOULD BE REINSTALLED. 03:13:11 THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT $15,000, OUR ESTIMATE. 03:13:15 WE WOULDN'T KNOW UNTIL WE ACTUALLY GET A QUOTE FROM A 03:13:20 CONSTRUCTION COMPANY. 03:13:22 THEN AGAIN, THERE'S A COST TO REINSTALL IT. 03:13:26 AGAIN, PROBABLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 26,000. 03:13:28 AND THEN WITH "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER," WE DID GET AN 03:13:32 ESTIMATE FROM THE SEWARD JOHNSON ATELIER, WHICH USED TO BE 03:13:41 THE SCULPTURE FOUNDATION, OF ABOUT $20,000 TO MOVE IT. 03:13:45 THAT DID NOT INCLUDE THE CRANE AND OFF-LOADING OF UTILITIES, 03:13:49 MOVING THE CRANE OVER. 03:13:50 WE TRY TO DO EVERYTHING AT ONE TIME. 03:13:53 AND REINSTALL PROBABLY AT LEAST THE SAME AMOUNT. 03:13:56 I THINK THE FOUNDATION WILL BE MORE SIGNIFICANT. 03:13:59 JUST TO MOVE THESE ONE TIME AND THEN MOVE THEM BACK, YOU'RE 03:14:03 LOOKING SOMEWHERE 132 TO MAYBE 140 THOUSAND DOLLARS. 03:14:07 IT IS A SIGNIFICANT COST. 03:14:08 I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. 03:14:10 WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE ENGINEERED FOUNDATIONS FOR THEM TO BE 03:14:19 PLACED UPON IN CASE THERE'S A STORM OR HURRICANE THAT COMES 03:14:22 UP, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FOUNDATION MEETS WIND LOAD
03:14:28 REQUIREMENT. 03:14:29 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU. 03:14:31 THANK YOU, MR. SMITH. 03:14:32 COMMISSIONERS, I KNOW I HAD SAID THAT WE WOULD TAKE THE 03:14:34 QUESTION AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE AN 03:14:40 AWFUL LOT OF QUESTIONS GOING ON RIGHT NOW. 03:14:42 LET ME ASK MS. GRIGGS, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK 03:14:45 TO THIS? 03:14:45 >>Shayla Griggs: YES, MADAM MAYOR, WE HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS 03:14:49 SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. 03:14:50 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS SUBMITTED VIA 03:14:52 E-MAIL? 03:14:52 >>Shayla Griggs: NO, MADAM MAYOR. 03:14:54 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU DON'T MIND, COULD 03:14:56 WE PLEASE LET THE TWO INDIVIDUALS SPEAK TO THIS AND THEN WE 03:14:59 WILL ALL HAVE QUESTIONS. 03:15:01 I KNOW I HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS AND I SAW PRETTY MUCH 03:15:03 EVERYBODY RAISE THEIR HAND. 03:15:05 MS. GRIGGS, IF WE COULD PLEASE GO TO ROOM 112 AND GET THE 03:15:08 PUBLIC INPUT. 03:15:11 >>Shayla Griggs: THANK YOU. 03:15:20 >> MY NAME IS THOMAS SAVAGE. 03:15:23 I AM THE FOUNDER AND DIRECTOR OF THE SARASOTA PUBLIC ART 03:15:25 FUND, WHICH HAS BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND THE
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03:15:31 INSURANCE OF "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER" FOR TEN YEARS.
03:15:36 I AM NOW PASSING THAT JOB ON TO THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE 03:15:40 CITY. 03:15:40 THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT MY ACCOUNT STILL HAS $11,000 IN IT, 03:15:46 AND I HAVE DIRECTED THAT TO BE SENT TO THE CITY FOR THE 03:15:51 CONTINUED SUPPORT OF "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER." 03:15:54 AS YOU KNOW, THE GREATEST GROUP THAT SUPPORTS "UNCONDITIONAL 03:15:58 SURRENDER" IS OUR VETERANS. 03:16:01 BY THE HUNDREDS THEY WERE PRESENT FOR THE DEDICATION OF THE 03:16:05 STATUE. 03:16:06 THEY FILLED THE CHAMBER COUNCIL WITH OVER 200 PEOPLE TO SHOW 03:16:10 THEIR SUPPORT, AND I THINK IT VERY IMPORTANT WE RECOGNIZE 03:16:14 THEIR PRESENCE AND THE CONTINUED PRESENCE OF "UNCONDITIONAL 03:16:18 SURRENDER" IN THE CITY. 03:16:21 THE CITY HAS MENTIONED THROUGH THE MEDIA TWO ASPECTS OF 03:16:24 "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER," THAT IT IS POPULAR AND THAT IT IS 03:16:29 CONTROVERSIAL. 03:16:30 NOW, POPULAR IS UNCONTESTED. 03:16:34 MORNING, NOON, AND NIGHT, THERE ARE PEOPLE AT THE STATUE. 03:16:36 THE WALGREENS CALENDAR FOR TWO YEARS CONTAINED PICTURES OF 03:16:43 "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER." 03:16:46 GO TO THE SIESTA CITY VILLAGE, GO TO ST. ARMANDS, YOU WILL 03:16:51 SEE ALL OF THESE SOUVENIRS THAT ARE DIRECTED TO 03:16:55 "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER." 03:16:58 BUT THE PROBLEM HAS COME DOWN WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT 03:17:01 "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER" AS A CONTROVERSY.
03:17:05 THE PROBLEM IS THE MEDIA HAVE NOT BEEN FAIR IN DISCUSSING 03:17:09 THAT WITH THE COMMUNITY. 03:17:12 EVERY YEAR, THEY GO AND FIND SOME SOURPUSS WHO IS GOING TO 03:17:18 TALK ABOUT HIS OR HER OBJECTIONS TO THE STATUE. 03:17:21 NEVER ONCE IN TEN YEARS, A CONTROVERSY HAS A PRO AND A CON, 03:17:26 NEVER ONCE IN TEN YEARS DID THEY EVER GO TO THE STATUE TO 03:17:32 TALK TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SO SUPPORTIVE AND IN LOVE WITH 03:17:35 THIS STATUE. 03:17:37 THERE IS ONE GROUP THAT HAS RAISED A COMPLAINT THAT I HAVE 03:17:41 COME TO AGREE WITH TO THEIR SURPRISE. 03:17:44 AND THAT IS THE WOMEN'S LIBERATION GROUP THAT HAS SAID THEY 03:17:50 FIND THE ACTION ON THE PART OF THE SAILOR UNACCEPTABLE. 03:17:54 AND I AGREE WITH THAT. 03:17:56 75 YEARS AGO, I DON'T THINK THAT'S TRUE. 03:17:59 POLITICAL CORRECTNESS PERHAPS WOULD HAVE VIEWED IT 03:18:02 DIFFERENTLY. 03:18:03 BUT THE NURSE WAS ASKED, DID SHE FEEL VIOLATED, COMPROMISED, 03:18:08 AND SHE SAID, NO, SHE DID NOT. 03:18:11 WE HAD JUST WON THE WAR. 03:18:13 IT WAS AN EXAMPLE OF CELEBRATORY MADNESS. 03:18:16 THERE WAS A WOMAN AT THE STATUE WEEPING ONE DAY THAT I 03:18:20 INTERVIEWED. 03:18:20 HER FATHER HAD GONE TO THE WAR IN THE SECOND WORLD WAR, DIED 03:18:25 AT IWO JIMA AND IN THEIR HOME ON THE MANTLE WAS A PICTURE OF 03:18:33 THE SAILOR AND THE NURSE AND HER MOTHER ALWAYS FANTASIZED
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03:18:36 WHAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE IF HE HAD RETURNED FROM THAT 03:18:40 WAR AND EMBRACED HER WITH LOVING KISSES. 03:18:44 THAT'S THE KIND OF PICTURE YOU WILL NEVER HEAR. 03:18:49 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU. 03:19:02 >> WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON. 03:19:06 MY NAME OBVIOUSLY REMAINS MARTIN HYDE. 03:19:09 ACCORDING TO THE CEREMONIAL MAYOR IN THE HERALD TRIBUNE OVER 03:19:15 THE WEEKEND, THE CITY DOES NOT, QUOTE, HAVE TIME TO GO 03:19:18 AROUND POSTING SIGNS TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT PARKING 03:19:22 ENFORCEMENT DURING A PANDEMIC, BUT YOU DO HAVE TIME TO TALK 03:19:26 ABOUT REMOVING A TOURIST DELIGHT THAT HURTS SOME OF YOUR 03:19:32 DELICATE SENSIBILITY. 03:19:34 REMOVING "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER" IS A SURRENDER TO THE 03:19:37 LIBERAL ELITES WHO WANT TO REWRITE HISTORY. 03:19:41 IT IS A REMINDER OF A GREAT HUMAN VICTORY, NOT OF AN ALLEGED 03:19:48 METOO MOMENT. 03:19:53 I ASKED ONLINE TWO HOURS AGO WHETHER THE CITY WANTED THE 03:19:56 STATUE GONE, AND THE ANSWER CAME BACK OVERWHELMINGLY FROM 03:19:59 3340 CITIZENS SO FAR THAT THE CITIZENS WOULD PREFER THE 03:20:05 MAYOR GONE, NOT THE STATUE. 03:20:08 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU. 03:20:09 OKAY. 03:20:11 COMMISSIONERS, I THINK I SAW THE VICE MAYOR HAD HER HAND UP. 03:20:16 IF I COULD JUST COMMENT ON WHAT WHETHER FOURNIER HAD SAID. 03:20:22 I REACHED OUT TO LESLIE BUTTERFIELD, WHO IS CHAIR OF OUR
03:20:26 PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE AND ASKED HER FOR INPUT ON THE STATUE. 03:20:33 SHE DID MENTION TO ME THAT SHE IS PART OF A GROUP -- I 03:20:36 APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING MORE DETAILS -- THAT WHAT SOME 03:20:41 OTHER CITIES DO IS WHEN THEY ARE IN A SITUATION LIKE WE ARE, 03:20:45 THEY LOAN THE STATUE TO OTHER CITIES, AND IT'S MY 03:20:50 UNDERSTANDING THAT THE OTHER CITY WHO RECEIVES THE STATUE 03:20:52 BEARS THE COST OF MOVING IT, INSURING IT AND MAINTAINING IT 03:20:57 WHILE IT IS ON LOAN. 03:20:58 IT WOULD BE A TEMPORARY AGREEMENT, AND THAT IS ALL I KNOW AT 03:21:03 THE MOMENT. 03:21:04 MR. BROWN CAN REACH OUT TO MS. BUTTERFIELD TO GET MORE 03:21:09 DETAILS AT SOME POINT IN TIME IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT 03:21:13 AS AN OPTION IN THE FUTURE, IF IT WOULD BE AN OPTION THAT 03:21:16 WOULD SAVE US MONEY OR POTENTIALLY IT WOULDN'T. 03:21:18 I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS. 03:21:19 I JUST DO KNOW THAT SHE DID OFFER THAT AS SOMETHING THAT IS 03:21:23 VERY COMMON TO DO WITH OTHER CITIES IN THIS KIND OF A 03:21:26 SITUATION. 03:21:27 LAST MINUTE, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. 03:21:30 VICE MAYOR, GO AHEAD. 03:21:32 >>Vice-Mayor Freeland Eddie: YES. 03:21:33 A FEW QUESTIONS. 03:21:34 THE FIRST QUESTION IS, WITH REGARD TO THE TIME FRAME FOR 03:21:38 REMOVAL OF BOTH "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER" AND "COMPLEXUS," 03:21:41 HOW LONG IS IT ESTIMATED THAT IT WOULD TAKE TO MOVE THOSE
03:21:44 TWO PIECES OF ART IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE TIME FRAME FOR THE 03:21:48 BEGINNING OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROUNDABOUT?
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03:21:52 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: MR. SMITH? 03:21:56 >>David Smith: YES, THIS IS DAVID SMITH. 03:21:59 WE WOULD PLAN TO HAVE THE ARTWORK REMOVED BY OCTOBER. 03:22:04 THAT WOULD BE OUR GOAL. 03:22:07 CERTAINLY -- I MEAN, THE DROP-DEAD DEADLINE WOULD BE 03:22:12 DECEMBER. 03:22:13 WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT DOING IT IN OCTOBER. 03:22:16 A COUPLE OF MONTHS FOR US TO GET EVERYTHING ARRANGED AND IN 03:22:23 ORDER. 03:22:25 >>Vice-Mayor Freeland Eddie: MR. SMITH, SPECIFICALLY HOW 03:22:26 LONG DOES IT PHYSICALLY TAKE TO MOVE THE STATUE? 03:22:29 IS IT A DAY, TWO DAYS, A WEEK? 03:22:31 ARE WE PUTTING OFF TRAFFIC? 03:22:34 WHAT ARE WE DOING? 03:22:35 >>David Smith: YEAH, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY. 03:22:38 I'M THINKING OF ABOUT A DAY, MAYBE TWO DAYS AT THE MOST TO 03:22:42 DO THAT. 03:22:43 WE WOULD TRY TO STAGE IT SO ONE OF THOSE ARTWORKS WOULD BE 03:22:49 FIRST AT ONE DAY, AND THEN PERHAPS IN THE AFTERNOON, IF WE 03:22:53 COULD GET THE OTHER ONE TAKEN CARE OF. 03:22:56 MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE SAME CREW COULD POSSIBLY BE 03:23:01 USED TO MOVE THE ARTWORK. 03:23:03 I THINK MR. HENRY AND MS. STOKEY WOULD POSSIBLY USE THE SAME
03:23:10 CREW. 03:23:10 THERE'S MAYBE ECONOMY OF SCALE THERE. 03:23:13 WE'RE LOOKING A DAY OR TWO. 03:23:14 IT MIGHT TAKE HALF A DAY JUST TO GET "UNCONDITIONAL 03:23:16 SURRENDER" TAKEN APART. 03:23:19 I THINK IT'S IN TWO PIECES. 03:23:20 THEN THEY HAVE TO REMOVE IT FROM THE FOUNDATION AS WELL. 03:23:26 >>Vice-Mayor Freeland Eddie: A FOLLOW-UP IS, WHAT ARE -- 03:23:32 WHAT'S IN PLACE IN TERMS OF IF WE STORE THE TWO PIECES OF 03:23:37 ART DURING CONSTRUCTION AT PUBLIC WORKS? 03:23:42 WHAT'S IN PLACE TO SET UP THE LOCATION WITHIN PUBLIC WORKS 03:23:45 WHERE THESE PIECES OF ART CAN BE SAFELY STORED? 03:23:49 I KNOW THAT THERE WAS COST OF INSURANCE. 03:23:56 DOES THAT COST INCLUDE THE TIME FRAME THAT THE CITY IS 03:24:01 STORING THE ART BEFORE IT IS MOVED TO A FINAL LOCATION? 03:24:06 AND HAS THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE BEEN SPECIFICALLY BROUGHT 03:24:09 IN TO HELP ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS? 03:24:12 TO ME, THIS SEEMS LIKE WHERE THEIR EXPERTISE IS AND THERE 03:24:17 WOULD HAVE BEEN SOMEBODY SPEAKING FROM PUBLIC ART TODAY TO 03:24:19 GIVE US DIRECTION AS TO THIS IS THE BEST PRACTICE TO KEEP 03:24:21 AND TO PRESERVE THIS PIECE OF ART. 03:24:23 THIS IS THE BEST PRACTICE FOR INSURANCE. 03:24:25 THIS IS THE BEST PRACTICE FOR REMOVAL. 03:24:27 THESE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE IN 03:24:29 TERMS OF COMPANIES TO REMOVE.
03:24:32 THIS IS BEST ESTIMATE IN TERMS OF THE COST OF FOUNDATION. 03:24:36 IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WE HAVE A VALUABLE RESOURCE THAT AT LEAST 03:24:41 THIS COMMISSION HASN'T HEARD FROM. 03:24:44 I'M WONDERING BEYOND THE ESTIMATES OF MR. SMITH AND STAFF
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03:24:48 WHETHER OR NOT WE'VE REACHED OUT TO THEM AND THEIR EXPERTISE 03:24:53 IN THIS. 03:24:53 I'M ASKING THIS NOT TO CRITICIZE BUT FOR INFORMATION BECAUSE 03:24:58 THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS ITEM. 03:25:00 MR. SMITH. 03:25:06 >>David Smith: YES, THIS IS DAVID SMITH. 03:25:11 NO, WE HAVE NOT DISCUSSED IT WITH THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE. 03:25:14 THE LAST MEETING WAS CANCELED DUE TO THE CLOSURES AT CITY 03:25:18 HALL AND THE PANDEMIC. SO WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THE MOVE 03:25:26 WITH BOTH OF THOSE -- OR WITH THAT COMMITTEE. 03:25:28 IT WOULD NOT BE STORED AT PUBLIC WORKS. 03:25:32 I DID HAVE A COMMUNICATION WITH PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR 03:25:37 JEFFCOAT, AND THEY DO NOT HAVE ROOM FOR IT THERE. 03:25:42 I DID HAVE COMMUNICATION WITH BILL RIEBE, UTILITIES 03:25:45 DIRECTOR, AND THEY DO HAVE A LOCATION FOR THE ARTWORK. 03:25:49 AND WHAT WE WOULD DO IS DO THE BEST WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT 03:25:55 IT WOULD NOT BE SEPARATED FROM ANY OF THE VEHICLES THERE. 03:25:59 WE'D PUT IT IN A BACK STORAGE AREA AND WE'D MARK IT OFF AND 03:26:04 MAKE SURE IT WAS NOT DAMAGED. 03:26:07 WE WILL BE TAKING OVER THE INSURANCE WITH THAT I BELIEVE ON 03:26:12 JUNE 11 OR 12.
03:26:14 I CAN MAKE SURE THAT OUR INSURANCE PROVIDER KNOWS THAT IT 03:26:20 WILL BE IN STORAGE AND MAKE SURE IT'S COVERED THEN. 03:26:24 I'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH OUR RISK MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT AND 03:26:29 HUMAN RESOURCES WHO OVERSEES THE INSURANCE ASPECT OF THAT. 03:26:34 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU, MR. SMITH. 03:26:35 ONE SECOND, VICE MAYOR. 03:26:36 MR. FOURNIER WOULD LIKE TO ADD A COMMENT AND SO WOULD 03:26:40 MR. BARWIN. 03:26:41 >>Robert Fournier: OKAY. 03:26:42 I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE COMMISSION WAS AWARE THAT IN 03:26:46 THE LOPE AND DONATION AGREEMENT, WHICH PERTAINS TO 03:26:49 "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER" ONLY, THERE IS A PROVISION THAT 03:26:53 CONTINUES EVEN AFTER THE INITIAL TEN YEARS, WHICH REQUIRES 03:26:57 THE CITY IN THE EVENT THE CITY WANTS TO RELOCATE OR MOVED TO 03:27:02 ANOTHER LOCATION TO FIRST NOTIFY THE SCULPTURE FOUNDATION TO 03:27:06 AFFORD THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT WITHIN 90 DAYS. 03:27:12 I BELIEVE STAFF HAS ACTUALLY ALREADY CONTACTED THEM, AND IT 03:27:15 IS STAFF'S PREFERENCE TO HAVE THEM DO IT. 03:27:19 AS THE VICE MAYOR MENTIONED, YOU'D WANT SOMEONE WITH THE 03:27:22 NECESSARY EXPERTISE TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. 03:27:24 I THINK WE HAVE TO FACTOR THAT IN. 03:27:27 I THINK IF WE GAVE THEM NOTICE NOW, WE COULD WAIVE THE 03:27:31 REQUIREMENT THAT THEY DO IT WITHIN 90 DAYS SINCE WE DON'T 03:27:34 WANT IT DONE UNTIL AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR. 03:27:36 BUT WE COULD ASK THEM TO LET US KNOW HOPEFULLY IN A SHORTER
03:27:40 PERIOD OF TIME, PERHAPS, WHETHER THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN 03:27:43 DOING THE RELOCATION. 03:27:44 IT WOULD BE AT THE CITY'S EXPENSE, AND THAT WAS THE QUOTE 03:27:48 THAT I THINK MR. SMITH OBTAINED. 03:27:50 THAT'S JUST ANOTHER FACTOR THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO GET LOST IN 03:27:54 THE DISCUSSION.
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03:27:55 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU, MR. FOURNIER. 03:27:57 MR. BARWIN. 03:27:58 >>Tom Barwin: CAN YOU HEAR ME, MAYOR? 03:28:01 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: YES. 03:28:01 >>Tom Barwin: JUST ONE OTHER RELATED BIT OF INFORMATION. 03:28:04 THIS IS MORE ON "COMPLEXUS," BUT THE REASONS THE STATUES 03:28:10 HAVE TO BE MOVED OBVIOUSLY IN THE FIRST PLACE IS TO 03:28:13 ACCOMMODATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROUNDABOUT. 03:28:16 AND WE HAVE ASKED THE STATE TO CONSIDER SINCE IT IS OUR CITY 03:28:22 POLICY TO PUT MAJOR PIECES OF ARTWORK IN OUR ROUNDABOUTS TO 03:28:27 CONSIDER ALLOWING "COMPLEXUS" TO BE RELOCATED VERY NEAR ITS 03:28:32 CURRENT SITE, AND THAT IS IN THE ROUNDABOUT ONCE IT'S 03:28:36 COMPLETED AT GULFSTREAM. 03:28:37 THAT APPROVAL HAS NOT BEEN FINALIZED BUT IT IS SORT OF A 03:28:41 LANDMARK THERE. 03:28:42 IT'S AN IDENTITY PIECE. 03:28:44 THE SLIGHT GLITCH AT THIS POINT IS THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF 03:28:48 TRANSPORTATION STANDARDS ONLY ALLOW AN ORNAMENTAL PIECE OF 03:28:56 ART TO BE 25 FEET HIGH.
03:28:57 I BELIEVE THAT IS CLOSER TO 50, 55 FEET. 03:29:01 ALTHOUGH IT'S SO THIN THAT WE THINK AN EXCEPTION SHOULD BE 03:29:07 CONSIDERED AND APPROVED. 03:29:08 YOU CANNOT, HOWEVER, PUT AN ATTRACTIVE MONUMENT THAT PEOPLE 03:29:12 WOULD GO TO IN A ROUNDABOUT, AND THAT'S WHY "UNCONDITIONAL 03:29:19 SURRENDER" COULDN'T BE CONSIDERED FOR ANY OF THOSE POSSIBLE 03:29:23 LOCATIONS. 03:29:24 WE THINK WE TENTATIVELY HAVE A POSSIBLE RELOCATION SITE VERY 03:29:28 NEAR TO THE CURRENT SITE OF "COMPLEXUS," BUT THAT DECISION 03:29:32 HASN'T BEEN FINALIZED EITHER. 03:29:34 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU, MR. BARWIN. 03:29:37 COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? 03:29:40 I'M GOING TO LET VICE MAYOR CONTINUE UNLESS THERE ARE OTHER 03:29:42 QUESTIONS. 03:29:43 COMMISSIONER SHAW, GO AHEAD. 03:29:44 >>Willie Charles Shaw: JUST THE ONE. 03:29:46 IN THE MOVEMENT THAT WAS PROPOSED, $140,000, DOES THAT 03:29:52 INCLUDE THE NEW BASE? 03:29:55 WHEN THEY WERE GIVING US THAT, OR IS THAT AN ADDITIONAL COST 03:29:58 THAT WOULD COME? 03:29:59 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: MR. SMITH. 03:30:00 >>David Smith: I GAVE AN ESTIMATE ON THE NEW BASE AND THAT'S 03:30:09 INCLUDED IN THAT. 03:30:10 I ESTIMATE THAT THE "COMPLEXUS" FOUNDATION IS PROBABLY GOING 03:30:13 TO BE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 15,000, AND THE UNCONDITIONAL
03:30:17 PROBABLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 25,000. 03:30:20 I CERTAINLY WON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL WE GET A QUOTE FROM A 03:30:24 GENERAL CONTRACTOR, BUT THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD IDEA 03:30:28 CONSIDERING WHAT WE PAID FOR FOUNDATIONS THE LAST TWO OR 03:30:34 THREE ART PIECES. 03:30:35 YES, THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE OVERALL COST AND THESE WOULD BE 03:30:38 PUBLIC ART FUNDS. 03:30:41 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU.
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03:30:42 COMMISSIONER ALPERT, YOU HAD A QUESTION. 03:30:44 >>Liz Alpert: NUMBER ONE, DO WE HAVE ANY CHOICE ABOUT 03:30:49 SPENDING THE MONEY TO MOVE IT? 03:30:51 IT HAS TO BE MOVED AT SOME POINT. 03:30:53 SOMEBODY HAS TO DO IT. 03:30:55 UNLESS WE FIND ANOTHER CITY THAT WANTS TO HAVE THE 03:30:59 "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER" STATUE ON LOAN, AREN'T WE KIND OF 03:31:05 STUCK IN TERMS OF HAVING TO MOVE IT? 03:31:08 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: MR. FOURNIER, DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS 03:31:10 THAT QUESTION? 03:31:12 >>Robert Fournier: SIMPLY PUT WOULD BE YES. 03:31:14 I MEAN, YOU COULD EVEN CONSIDER, I THINK, STARTING THE 03:31:17 ARRANGEMENTS FOR THE MOVE BECAUSE AS YOU CORRECTLY POINTED 03:31:20 OUT, THE TEMPORARY RELOCATION IS A GIVEN. 03:31:23 THAT HAS TO HAPPEN. 03:31:24 THAT IS THE MORE IMMEDIATE ISSUE. 03:31:28 YOU COULD EVEN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AND STOP AND REASSESS
03:31:32 IT IF ANOTHER COMMUNITY WAS FOUND WHO WANTED TO TAKE IT ON A 03:31:36 LOAN AND RELIEVE THE CITY OF THOSE EXPENSES. 03:31:39 BUT I DON'T THINK YOU WANT TO HOLD UP THE DECISIONS ON THE 03:31:42 TEMPORARY RELOCATION FOR TOO LONG BECAUSE THESE MONTHS ARE 03:31:46 GOING TO TICK AWAY AND WE'LL BE AT THE FIRST OF THE YEAR 03:31:48 BEFORE YOU KNOW IT. 03:31:49 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU, MR. FOURNIER. 03:31:53 COMMISSIONER ALPERT, DID YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? 03:31:55 >>Liz Alpert: NO, I DON'T HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. 03:31:57 I JUST WANTED TO ADD, ONE OF THE PEOPLE IN THE NEWSPAPER 03:32:03 ARTICLE, KELLY FRANKLIN, I'M SURE SHE PROBABLY E-MAILED ALL 03:32:08 OF YOU. 03:32:08 IF SHE DIDN'T, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE EVERYBODY AWARE THAT 03:32:11 SHE'S VERY, VERY OPPOSED TO THIS AND WOULD LIKE THIS TO BE 03:32:17 THE DECISION AS TO WHERE TO LOCATE IT BE PUT OFF FOR ANOTHER 03:32:21 DAY. 03:32:22 SHE COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY TO TESTIFY, SO I WANTED TO GET 03:32:25 THAT ON THE RECORD. 03:32:26 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ALPERT. 03:32:28 MR. BARWIN. 03:32:30 >>Tom Barwin: MAYOR, JUST TO PUT THE NUMBERS INTO SCALE AND 03:32:33 CONTEXT, IF YOU DON'T RECALL, WE ARE SPENDING ABOUT 03:32:37 $150,000 OF PUBLIC ART FUNDS IN EVERY MAJOR ROUNDABOUT. 03:32:43 IF WE DO PREVAIL AND F.D.O.T. DOES APPROVE OF THE RELOCATION 03:32:47 OF "COMPLEXUS," THAT'S -- BY RELOCATING IT VERY NEAR WHERE
03:32:53 IT IS NOW, THAT'S A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL SAVINGS IN WHAT WE 03:32:58 MIGHT HAVE SPENT TO COMPLY WITH CITY POLICIES. 03:33:02 THE SAVINGS, THEREFORE, WOULD HELP DEFRAY SOME OF THE COST 03:33:05 OF THE TEMPORARY MOVEMENTS IN THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE 03:33:08 BASES. 03:33:09 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU, MR. BARWIN. 03:33:11 COMMISSIONER BRODY, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? 03:33:16 >>Hagen Brody: JUST A COMMENT. 03:33:17 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: OKAY. 03:33:18 CAN YOU COMMENT WHEN WE HAVE A MOTION?
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03:33:19 >>Hagen Brody: SURE. 03:33:20 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU. 03:33:21 VICE MAYOR, I THINK YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS. 03:33:22 >>Vice-Mayor Freeland Eddie: NO. 03:33:24 JUST RECOMMENDATION. 03:33:25 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: NO. 03:33:26 OKAY. 03:33:26 GOOD. 03:33:27 AT THIS POINT, IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS, MAY WE HAVE A 03:33:32 MOTION AND THEN WE CAN HAVE SOME COMMENTS AND SOME 03:33:34 RECOMMENDATIONS. 03:33:35 VICE MAYOR, GO AHEAD. 03:33:36 >>Vice-Mayor Freeland Eddie: I WOULD MOVE THAT WE DIRECT 03:33:39 STAFF TO BEGIN THE 90-DAY RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL PROCESS BY 03:33:45 CONTACTING THE SCULPTURE FOUNDATION WITH REGARD TO THE
03:33:49 REMOVAL OF THE STATUE FOR "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER." 03:33:52 I WOULD ALSO AS A PART OF THE MOTION ASK THAT WE DIRECT 03:33:56 STAFF TO WORK DIRECTLY WITH PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE TO COME 03:34:00 BACK TO US AND BRING US A RECOMMENDATION WITH OPTIONS AND 03:34:04 ACTUAL DOLLAR AMOUNTS FOR THE RELOCATION, INSURANCE, 03:34:08 STORAGE, AND THEN HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION WITH REGARD TO 03:34:12 WHERE THE STATUES SHOULD BE PLACED. 03:34:15 ALSO, AS A PART OF THAT, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD, ALONG WITH 03:34:20 THE 90 DAY RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL, WE SHOULD DIRECT STAFF TO 03:34:26 GO AHEAD AND CONTACT F.D.O.T. WITH REGARD TO THE ABILITY TO 03:34:29 MAKE AN EXCEPTION FOR THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT IN THAT 03:34:31 ROUNDABOUT AS A PART OF THE WORK WITH THE PUBLIC ART 03:34:34 COMMITTEE. 03:34:35 I THINK WHERE THEY END UP IN THE LONG TERM SHOULD BE BROUGHT 03:34:40 BACK TO US IN THE FORM OF A REPORT. 03:34:41 WE GET REPORTS FROM ADVISORY COMMITTEES ALL THE TIME WITH 03:34:44 SPECIFIC ACTIONS THAT ARE TAKEN. 03:34:46 THEY CAN PRESENT RECOMMENDATIONS. 03:34:48 IT COMES BACK AN AGENDAED ITEM. 03:34:50 ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO COME BACK AND SPEAK 03:34:53 TO WHERE THEY THINK IT SHOULD BE. 03:34:55 WE DO -- WITH REGARD TO THE LOPE AGREEMENT, GIVE THE 03:34:58 SCULPTURE FOUNDATION 90 DAYS TO TELL US WHETHER OR NOT THEY 03:35:01 WANT IT. 03:35:02 THEN WE KNOW WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE TO STORE IT, SELL IT,
03:35:05 INSURE IT, WHAT WE NEED TO DO. 03:35:07 THEN IT GETS BROUGHT BACK WITH DOLLAR FIGURES BASED ON THE 03:35:12 FINDINGS. 03:35:12 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT I UNDERSTAND 03:35:14 YOUR MOTION. 03:35:17 COULD YOU PLEASE RESTATE IT, THANK YOU? 03:35:20 >>Vice-Mayor Freeland Eddie: THE MOTION IS THAT THE 03:35:21 COMMISSION DIRECT STAFF TO BEGIN THE RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL 03:35:25 PROCESS BY CONTACTING THE SCULPTURE FOUNDATION FOR REMOVAL 03:35:28 OF THE STATUE WITHIN 90 DAYS BASED UPON THE LOAN AGREEMENT 03:35:32 AND THAT WE DIRECT STAFF TO WORK WITH PUBLIC ART IN BRINGING 03:35:36 US BACK A REPORT AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FUTURE RELOCATION
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03:35:40 AND REMOVAL AND COSTS BASED UPON THE FINDINGS FROM THE 03:35:46 SCULPTURE FOUNDATION. 03:35:49 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: VICE MAYOR, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE 03:35:51 PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE LOOKING INTO LOAN, A TEMPORARY LOAN TO 03:35:56 ANOTHER CITY? 03:35:58 >>Vice-Mayor Freeland Eddie: IT INCLUDES WHATEVER 03:36:00 RECOMMENDATION THEY BRING BACK TO US. 03:36:02 I'M NOT GOING TO RESTRICT IT AT THIS POINT. 03:36:05 IF IT'S A PART OF THEIR RECOMMENDATION, THEN FINE. 03:36:08 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? 03:36:16 >>Willie Charles Shaw: I WILL SECOND THE MOTION. 03:36:17 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: VICE MAYOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO 03:36:19 THE MOTION?
03:36:20 >>Vice-Mayor Freeland Eddie: YES, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE 03:36:21 RECOMMENDATION ALSO INCLUDED THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO 03:36:23 "COMPLEXUS" IN ADDITION TO "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER." 03:36:27 I THINK THIS IS JUST THE TYPE OF THING THAT OUR PUBLIC ART 03:36:30 COMMITTEE IS IN PLACE TO ASSIST US WITH AND THAT THEY CAN 03:36:34 WORK WITH STAFF IN GETTING THE ACTUAL ESTIMATES FOR COST OF 03:36:38 REMOVAL, RELOCATION, REINSTATEMENT, FOUNDATION, INSURANCE, 03:36:42 AND GIVE US ANY OTHER OPTIONS FOR BEST PRACTICES FOR 03:36:46 STORAGE. 03:36:47 I'M CONCERNED ABOUT US STORING THESE PIECES OF ART AT THE 03:36:50 UTILITIES DEPARTMENT. 03:36:51 THEY ARE JUST NOT BUILT TO HOUSE SPECIFIC IMPORTANT PIECES 03:36:57 OF ART. 03:36:58 THEY MIGHT STAY INSTEAD OF DOING THAT, LET'S DO SOMETHING 03:37:00 ELSE. 03:37:02 OR THERE MIGHT BE A PLACE IN UTILITIES SAFE ENOUGH TO 03:37:05 ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE NEED TO. 03:37:06 WE'RE LOOKING AT STORAGE AND RELOCATION FOR 400 DAYS, 03:37:09 ACCORDING TO HOW LONG THEY SAY IT'S GOING TO TAKE FOR THIS 03:37:11 ROUNDABOUT TO BE IN PLACE. 03:37:13 THIS ISN'T JUST A 60- OR 90-DAY PROCESS. 03:37:16 I THINK WE NEED SOME HISTORIC EXPERTISE AND DIRECTION ON 03:37:20 THIS. 03:37:21 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. 03:37:22 I JUST WANT TO ALERT YOU THAT FOR THE SECOND TIME IN LESS
03:37:25 THAN FIVE MINUTES, THERE WE GO, YOU WENT AWAY AND WE HAD A 03:37:29 LITTLE YELLOW TRIANGLE. 03:37:30 WHILE I DID HEAR EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID AND I'M ASKING THE 03:37:34 OTHERS TO NOD YOUR HEAD IF YOU HEARD EVERYTHING -- 03:37:40 COMMISSIONER ALPERT, YOU DID NOT HEAR WHAT THE VICE MAYOR 03:37:43 SAID? 03:37:44 LET ME SEE WHAT MR. BARWIN WOULD LIKE TO SAY. 03:37:50 >>Tom Barwin: IT'S MORE A QUESTION, MAYOR. 03:37:53 I MIGHT HAVE MISSED SOMETHING, I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO 03:37:56 HAVE CLARITY ON THIS. 03:37:58 AS I UNDERSTAND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S PRESENTATION AND THE 03:38:04 DISCUSSION, THE CITY PRETTY MUCH INHERITS OR TAKES OVER 03:38:09 OWNERSHIP OF THE SCULPTURE AS OF TODAY. 03:38:11 IN THE VICE MAYOR'S MOTION, ADVISING THE SCULPTURE
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03:38:21 FOUNDATION THAT IT WILL NEED TO BE MOVED BECAUSE OF THE 03:38:27 CONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT'S COMING, THEN THEY HAVE 90 DAYS 03:38:32 TO TELL US IF THEY WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MOVEMENT OF 03:38:36 IT. 03:38:38 I DIDN'T HAVE THE IMPRESSION IT GIVES THE OWNERSHIP OF THE 03:38:43 SCULPTURE TO SOMEBODY ELSE, AND MAYBE I MISSED IT, BUT I 03:38:48 THINK WE NEED SOME CLARITY OR I WOULD LIKE SOME CERTAINTY IN 03:38:52 MY OWN MIND IF BOB OR SOMEBODY CAN CLARIFY. 03:38:55 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: ONE SECOND, MR. BARWIN. 03:38:57 MR. FOURNIER, I KNOW YOU WANT TO SPEAK. 03:39:00 I WANT TO MAKE SURE COMMISSIONER ALPERT HEARD THE
03:39:02 CONVERSATION AND THE MOTION. 03:39:03 IF WE COULD UNMUTE COMMISSIONER ALPERT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE 03:39:06 SHE FOLLOWED THE CONVERSATION. 03:39:07 >>Liz Alpert: I FOLLOWED THE CONVERSATION, BUT I DON'T THINK 03:39:11 THE MOTION IS VERY CLEAR TO ME EITHER. 03:39:15 BECAUSE AS MR. BARWIN SAID, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE 90 DAYS, 03:39:21 THE SCULPTURE FOUNDATION HAS THE OPTION FOR THEM TO DO THE 03:39:23 WORK TO MOVE IT. 03:39:25 I DON'T THINK THAT MEANT THAT THEY WERE GOING TO PAY THE 03:39:28 COST OF MOVING IT, THAT THE COST OF MOVING IT -- AND THAT'S 03:39:32 ONLY FOR THE UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER STATUE, THE COST OF 03:39:36 MOVING IT WOULD STILL BE ON THE CITY UNLESS I'M 03:39:40 UNDERSTANDING IT WRONG. 03:39:41 I WOULD LIKE CLARIFICATION AS WELL BEFORE I VOTE ON 03:39:45 ANYTHING. 03:39:46 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ALPERT. 03:39:48 MR. FOURNIER WILL SPEAK FIRST. 03:39:50 THEN THE VICE MAYOR AND THEN COMMISSIONER BRODY. 03:39:53 GO AHEAD, MR. FOURNIER. 03:39:54 >>Robert Fournier: OKAY. 03:39:55 FIRST OF ALL, TO THE CITY MANAGER'S QUESTION, THERE WAS 03:40:01 NOTHING THAT I SAID OR HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE REFERRAL 03:40:06 TO THE SCULPTURE FOUNDATION FOR THE COST OF THE MOVE THAT 03:40:08 WOULD RESULT IN THE CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP. 03:40:11 IT IS STILLED OWNED BY THE CITY.
03:40:14 THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE A CLEAR, AFFIRMATIVE ACTION ON THE 03:40:17 PART OF THE CITY, AND THE SCULPTURE FOUNDATION HAS THE RIGHT 03:40:21 TO MOVE IT IF THEY CHOOSE. 03:40:22 THE CITY IS OBLIGED TO GO TO THEM FIRST. 03:40:25 THEY HAVE 90 DAYS ACTUALLY TO MOVE IT, BUT WE DON'T WANT IT 03:40:28 MOVED WITHIN 90 DAYS. 03:40:30 SO WE'D HAVE TO WORK THAT OUT WITH THEM AND ASK THEM TO TELL 03:40:34 US HOPEFULLY IN A SHORTER TIME, IF THEY WANTED TO MOVE IT, 03:40:37 WE ALREADY HAVE THEIR COST ESTIMATE. 03:40:38 AS I SAID, DAVID CONTACTED THEM INFORMALLY. 03:40:43 I'D LIKE TO WRITE A FORMAL LEVEL INDICATING WE DISCHARGED 03:40:46 OUR OBLIGATION UNDER THE LOAN AND DONATION AGREEMENT AND 03:40:49 FIND OUT WHAT THEIR INTENTIONS ARE. 03:40:51 THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THE FIRST PART OF THE VICE 03:40:53 MAYOR'S MOTION. 03:40:55 AND THE SECOND PART I UNDERSTOOD WAS TO REFER THE WHOLE
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03:41:00 MATTER TO THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE FOR SOME ADDITIONAL 03:41:04 ADVICE ON THIS, WHICH I THINK COULD EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY 03:41:09 OF THE LOAN TEMPORARILY DURING CONSTRUCTION TO ANOTHER 03:41:12 COMMUNITY IF THAT WOULD SAVE THE CITY FUNDS. 03:41:16 THE PART OF THE MOTION THAT I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT I 03:41:18 THINK WAS THE "COMPLEXUS" AND THE ROUNDABOUT PERMANENTLY IN 03:41:23 TALKING TO F.D.O.T., WHICH I THINK IF THAT'S ALL PART OF 03:41:25 WHAT GETS REFERRED TO THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE, THEN IT 03:41:29 SEEMS THE MOTION IS MORE CLEAR BECAUSE IT ALL HAS TO DO WITH
03:41:33 THE TEMPORARY RELOCATION AND IT ISN'T GOING OVER TO THE CITY 03:41:38 COMMISSION DECIDING AT THIS TIME THAT THAT'S WHERE 03:41:40 "COMPLEXUS" IS GOING TO BE PERMANENTLY BECAUSE I THINK YOU 03:41:44 NEED TO DISCUSS THE TEMPORARY MOVE SEPARATE FROM THE 03:41:48 PERMANENT MOVE. 03:41:50 THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. 03:41:51 THANK YOU. 03:42:00 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: OKAY. THANK YOU. 03:42:00 I SEE THAT YOU WANT TO SPEAK, MR. BARWIN, BUT THE VICE MAYOR 03:42:00 WANTED TO SPEAK FIRST AND THEN COMMISSIONER BRODY WANTED TO 03:42:00 SPEAK. 03:42:00 SO GO AHEAD, VICE MAYOR. 03:42:01 >>Vice-Mayor Freeland Eddie: YEAH, NOTHING IN MY MOTION 03:42:05 SUGGESTS SALE OR TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP OF EITHER PARCEL. 03:42:08 IT SUGGESTS STARTING THE RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL PROCESS WITH 03:42:12 THE SCULPTURE FOUNDATION. 03:42:14 IT DOESN'T SAY -- THEY HAVE 90 DAYS, THEY CAN MAKE THE 03:42:17 DECISION WITHIN 90 DAYS, BUT WE HAVE GOT TO OFFICIALLY REFER 03:42:21 IT TO THEM AND EXERCISE THE RIGHT UNDER THE LOAN AGREEMENT. 03:42:24 THAT WAS THE FIRST PART OF MY MOTION. 03:42:26 THE SECOND PART WAS CORRECT, AS MR. FOURNIER POINTED OUT, 03:42:27 THAT THIS MATTER GETS REFERRED COMPLETELY TO THE PUBLIC ART 03:42:32 COMMITTEE AS IT RELATES TO THE RELOCATION OF THESE TWO 03:42:34 PIECES AND TO BRING US BACK A REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION, AND 03:42:34 THEN WE DISCUSS WHERE THE FINAL, YOU KNOW, PLACE WILL BE FOR
03:42:34 BOTH STATUES. 03:42:34 THIS IS EXACTLY, IN MY OPINION, WHAT THE PUBLIC ART 03:42:47 COMMITTEE WAS BUILT TO DO. 03:42:49 AS LONG AS IT COMES BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR US TO APPROVE 03:42:53 BUDGET, STORAGE WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF BEST PRACTICES AND 03:42:57 THEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO WEIGH IN ON WHERE THEY 03:43:00 WANT THE STATUE TO BE, I THINK WE'RE DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY. 03:43:09 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: COMMISSIONER BRODY, YOU WANTED TO 03:43:10 SPEAK. 03:43:11 >>Hagen Brody: I AGREE WITH THE IDEA OF I THINK THE PUBLIC 03:43:15 ART COMMITTEE SHOULD REALLY DO THE HEAVY LIFTING ON THIS AS 03:43:18 TO THE RELOCATION AND COST OPTIONS, AND THEN WE CAN AFFIRM 03:43:27 OR DISAGREE WITH THAT ONCE IT COMES BACK TO US. 03:43:30 BUT I THINK WE SHOULD BE CLEAR ON THE RECORD AND IN THE 03:43:33 MOTION THAT OUR INTENT IS TO RETAIN OWNERSHIP OF THE STATUE. 03:43:39 SO THAT I THINK -- FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM THE CITY 03:43:43 ATTORNEY'S MEMO IS THAT WE DO NOTHING AND WE ASSUME 03:43:48 OWNERSHIP OF THE STATUE, AND THEN WE CAN MAKE A DECISION
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03:43:54 ABOUT WHERE IT GOES DURING STORAGE. 03:43:56 OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE TO MOVE BOTH PIECES FOR CONSTRUCTION. 03:44:01 I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. 03:44:02 I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH ANY OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN 03:44:05 MADE, DEPENDING ON THE PARTICULARS, BUT I DO THINK THAT THE 03:44:08 CITY SHOULD RETAIN OWNERSHIP AND KEEP IT DISPLAYED 03:44:12 PROMINENTLY.
03:44:13 VERY POPULAR PIECE. 03:44:14 AND IT REALLY JUST PAYS HOMAGE TO THE GREATEST GENERATION. 03:44:19 THE SUCCESSFUL VICTORY IN WORLD WAR II. 03:44:23 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BRODY. 03:44:25 I THINK IT'S INHERENT IN THE MOTION THAT WE DO RETAIN 03:44:29 OWNERSHIP. 03:44:30 BUT I'LL ASK MR. FOURNIER TO COMMENT ON THAT TO MAKE SURE 03:44:34 THAT IT IS IMPLIED AND IF IT NEEDS TO BE EXPRESSED THEN HE 03:44:38 CAN ADVISE US TO THAT. 03:44:40 MR. BARWIN, YOU WILL BE NEXT AND VICE MAYOR AGAIN. 03:44:44 MR. FOURNIER. 03:44:46 >>Robert Fournier: YES, I THINK IT IS INHERENT IN THE MOTION 03:44:48 THAT THE CITY RETAIN OWNERSHIP BECAUSE AS I SAID THE 03:44:50 EXECUTION OF THE BILL OF SALE BY THE TRUSTEES TRANSFER THE 03:44:53 OWNERSHIP TO THE CITY. 03:44:56 UNLESS THE CITY COMMISSION TAKES SOME AFFIRMATIVE ACTION TO 03:44:59 DIVEST THE CITY OF OWNERSHIP, YOU'LL STILL OWN IT. 03:45:03 AND IF A LOAN EVER COMES TO FRUITION, A LOAN IS A LOAN, 03:45:08 YOU'LL STILL OWN IT AND GET IT BACK. 03:45:10 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU, MR. FOURNIER. 03:45:11 MR. BARWIN. 03:45:12 >>Tom Barwin: I THINK THAT CLARIFIES, I JUST REALLY WANTED 03:45:15 TO CLARITY ON THAT. 03:45:16 REALLY IN EFFECT WE'RE ASKING THE SCULPTURE FOUNDATION IS IF 03:45:20 IN THE GOODNESS OF YOUR HEART AND YOUR SKILL SET, YOU WANT
03:45:23 TO TEMPORARILY HELP US AND STORE THIS AND USE YOUR RESOURCES 03:45:27 AND EXPERTISE, YOU HAVE 90 DAYS TO HELP US DO THAT. 03:45:31 IN EFFECT. 03:45:33 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU, MR. BARWIN. 03:45:35 VICE MAYOR YOU WANTED TO SPEAK AND THEN COMMISSIONER ALPERT 03:45:38 WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING. 03:45:41 >>Vice-Mayor Freeland Eddie: THE ONLY PERSON WHO CAN SPEAK 03:45:43 TO THE INTENT OF THE MOTION IS THE MAKER OF THE MOTION AND 03:45:46 THAT'S ME. 03:45:47 WHERE ALL DUE RESPECT TO EVERYBODY ELSE WHO TALKED, I MADE 03:45:49 THE MOTION AND NOTHING IN MY MOTION TALKED ABOUT TRANSFER OF 03:45:52 OWNERSHIP OF THE SCULPTURES. 03:45:55 LET'S BE CLEAR. 03:45:56 THE TWO PARTS ARE REACHING OUT TO THE SCULPTURE FOUNDATION 03:45:58 AND WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE. 03:46:00 IF WE DO THAT THEN WE'RE KEEPING WITHIN BEST PRACTICES AS TO 03:46:03 HOW WE WOULD TREAT ANY PUBLIC ART IN THE CITY AND THERE'S 03:46:06 PRACTICE AND PROCEDURE AND IT'S BROUGHT BACK BEFORE THE 03:46:08 COMMITTEE. 03:46:09 THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
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03:46:10 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. 03:46:11 COMMISSIONER ALPERT, GO AHEAD. 03:46:13 >>Liz Alpert: I WOULD LIKE CLARIFICATION FROM THE VICE MAYOR 03:46:18 THAT SHE IS IN HER MOTION CERTAIN THAT NO MATTER WHAT WE ARE 03:46:23 RELOCATING BOTH PIECES, THAT'S INHERENT IN THERE THAT WE'RE
03:46:28 RELOCATING BOTH PIECES AT THIS TIME OR BEFORE THE 03:46:33 CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROUNDABOUT. 03:46:35 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: VICE MAYOR. 03:46:38 >>Vice-Mayor Freeland Eddie: I MEAN ABSOLUTELY. 03:46:39 WHY WERE WE TALKING ABOUT IT IF WE DIDN'T NEED TO REMOVE 03:46:42 THEM BECAUSE OF THE ROUNDABOUT? 03:46:43 YES. 03:46:46 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU. 03:46:47 THAT'S GOOD. 03:46:47 ARE WE READY FOR A ROLL-CALL VOTE? 03:46:50 GO AHEAD, MS. GRIGGS. 03:46:54 >>Shayla Griggs: AHEARN-KOCH? 03:47:01 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: YES. 03:47:02 >>Liz Alpert: YES. 03:47:03 >>Hagen Brody: YES. 03:47:05 >>Vice-Mayor Freeland Eddie: YES. 03:47:07 >>Willie Charles Shaw: YES. 03:47:11 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: THE MOTION PASSES 5-0. 03:47:14 THANK YOU. 03:47:14 MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, NEW BUSINESS, THIS IS REGARDING 03:47:20 THE PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF SARASOTA 03:47:23 AND PALM AVENUE HOLDINGS LLC TO PURCHASE STORAGE AREA 03:47:28 ADJACENT TO RETAIL SPACE ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE PALM 03:47:31 AVENUE PARKING GARAGE FOR $250,000. 03:47:34 AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK GENERAL MANAGER MR. LYONS
03:47:37 TO PLEASE MAKE THE PRESENTATION. 03:47:39 IS MR. LYONS ON THE LINE? 03:47:42 MR. BROWN. 03:47:44 >>Marlon Brown: MAYOR, MR. SHAMSEY IS ALSO -- OR SHOULD BE 03:47:48 ON FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, TO ASSIST WITH THIS ITEM 03:47:53 AS WELL. 03:47:54 >>Mayor Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU. 03:47:55 MR. LYONS, CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION, 03:47:58 PLEASE? 03:47:59 >>Mark Lyons: YES, GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM MAYOR AND 03:48:01 COMMISSION. 03:48:02 THANK YOU. 03:48:03 THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY HELP THE PARKING DIVISION 03:48:09 THIS YEAR FINANCIALLY, BUT ALSO AID ONE OF OUR MERCHANTS WHO 03:48:15 OPERATES SEVERAL PIECES OF PROPERTY OUT OF THE PALM AVE 03:48:18 PARKING GARAGE. 03:48:19 THE EXPLANATION WITHIN THE PACKET IS COMPLETE, BUT I THOUGHT 03:48:22 I WOULD JUST TAKE A MINUTE TO EXPOUND ON THE DESCRIPTION A 03:48:27 LITTLE BIT AND THEN IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, CERTAINLY 03:48:31 TAKE THOSE QUESTIONS. 03:48:32 PAGE 26 OF YOUR PACKET, I BELIEVE IT'S PAGE 26, HAS AN 03:48:38 OVERVIEW OR AN AERIAL OF THE AREAS THAT DEPICT THE AREAS
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Attachment 5
Roadway Plans
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SIDEWALK/MURT TRAILPEDESTRIAN ROUTE
PHASE 1
TEMP. SIGNAL
TA
MIA
MI T
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ALLEY
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1ST ST.RITZ CARLTON DR.
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OPERATIONALREMAINSEXIST. SIGNAL
OPERATIONALREMAINSEXIST. SIGNAL
OPERATIONALREMAINSEXIST. SIGNAL
OPERATIONALREMAINSEXIST. SIGNAL
OPERATIONALREMAINSEXIST. SIGNAL
RINGLING BLVD.ONLY - DETOUR TOCLOSE OUTGOING
SIGNALTEMP.
ENTRANCECLOSE PARK
RELOCATESURRENDER STATUEUNCONDITIONAL
TEMP. RELOCATEART STATUE
TEMP. COVER HEADSEXIST. SIGNAL
(CLOSE) EXITING DOWNTOWN TO US 41
(ALLOW) ENTERING DOWNTOWN FROM NB US 41
(CLOSE)
EXITIN
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NT
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N T
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(ALLO
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NT
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B US 41
(ALLOW) ENTERING DOWNTOWN FROM NB US 41
PALM AVE.
(ADA ISSUE WITH STAIRS)POSSIBLY INSTALL TEMP. PEDESTRIAN BRIDGETEMP. TURN OFF PEDESTRIAN SIGNAL AND
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SIDEWALK/MURT TRAILPEDESTRIAN ROUTE
PHASE 2A
TEMP. SIGNAL
TA
MIA
MI T
R.
SR 45 (U
S 41)
FRUITVILLE RD.
ALLEY
2ND ST.
1ST ST.RITZ CARLTON DR.
GULFSTREA
M A
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TE P
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GULFSTREAM AVE.
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RIN
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PLA
ZA
MARIN
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COVER HEADSMAIN ST. CLOSEDEXIST. SIGNAL
OPERATIONALREMAINSEXIST. SIGNAL
OPERATIONALREMAINSEXIST. SIGNAL
OPERATIONALREMAINSEXIST. SIGNAL
OPERATIONALREMAINSEXIST. SIGNAL
OPERATIONALREMAINSEXIST. SIGNAL
RINGLING BLVD.ONLY - DETOUR TOCLOSE OUTGOING
SIGNALTEMP.
ENTRANCECLOSE PARK
RELOCATESURRENDER STATUEUNCONDITIONAL
TEMP. RELOCATEART STATUE
(ALLO
W)
EN
TE
RIN
G D
OW
NT
OW
N FR
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B US 41
(CLOSE)
EXITIN
G D
OW
NT
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N T
O US 41
TEMP. COVER HEADSEXIST. SIGNAL
(ALLOW) ENTERING DOWNTOWN FROM NB US 41
(CLOSE) EXITING DOWNTOWN TO US 41
(ALLOW) ENTERING DOWNTOWN FROM NB US 41
TEMP. COVER HEADSEXIST. SIGNAL
PALM AVE.
(ADA ISSUE WITH STAIRS)POSSIBLY INSTALL TEMP. PEDESTRIAN BRIDGETEMP. TURN OFF PEDESTRIAN SIGNAL AND
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SIDEWALK/MURT TRAILPEDESTRIAN ROUTE
PHASE 2B
TEMP. SIGNAL
TA
MIA
MI T
R.
SR 45 (U
S 41)
FRUITVILLE RD.
ALLEY
2ND ST.
1ST ST.RITZ CARLTON DR.
GULFSTREA
M A
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GO
LD
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GA
TE P
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GULFSTREAM AVE.
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RIN
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MAIN ST.
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RIN
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PLA
ZA
MARIN
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COVER HEADSMAIN ST. CLOSEDEXIST. SIGNAL
OPERATIONALREMAINSEXIST. SIGNAL
OPERATIONALREMAINSEXIST. SIGNAL
OPERATIONALREMAINSEXIST. SIGNAL
OPERATIONALREMAINSEXIST. SIGNAL
OPERATIONALREMAINSEXIST. SIGNAL
RINGLING BLVD.ONLY - DETOUR TOCLOSE OUTGOING
SIGNALTEMP.
ENTRANCECLOSE PARK
CLOSE 2ND ST.
CLOSE 1ST ST.
TEMP. RELOCATEART STATUE
RELOCATESURRENDER STATUEUNCONDITIONAL
TEMP. COVER HEADSEXIST. SIGNAL
TEMP. COVER HEADSEXIST. SIGNAL
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CLOSE PALM AVE.
PALM AVE.
(ADA ISSUE WITH STAIRS)POSSIBLY INSTALL TEMP. PEDESTRIAN BRIDGETEMP. TURN OFF PEDESTRIAN SIGNAL AND
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SD
SD
SD
SD
30" RCP #1
RIM EL. = 4.06'
INVERT = -0.79'
INVERT = -1.60'
30" RCP #1
IN
VE
RT = -0.5
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IN
VE
RT = -0.6
0'
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INVERT = 0.28'INVERT = 0.31'
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RI
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= 4.2
8'
INVERT = 0.54'
INVERT = -0.94'
INLET EL. = 2.61'
24" RCP #1
INVERT = -0.91' 18" RCP #1
RIM EL. = 3.55'18" R
CP #1
INVERT = -1.17'
RIM EL. = 3.51'INLET EL. = 2.72'
18" RCP #1
RIM EL. = 3.47'
INVERT = -0.74'
INVERT = -1.04'
18" RCP #1
18" RCP #1
IN
LE
T E
L.
= 5.1
8'
IN
VE
RT = -0.7
6'
MUD AND MANGROVES.INVERT BLOCKED BY ROCKS,
ONLY. APPEARS TO CONNECT TO UNDERDRAIN.
15" PVC #1 EAST END FOR DIRECTION
FILLED WITH DIRTNO PIPE VISIBLE STRUCTURE
(2) 8" P
VC #1
BY WATER AND MUDSTRUCTURED HALF SUBMERGED
UNDER DRAIN
INVERT = -0.85'
IN
VE
RT = -0.8
9'
IN
VE
RT = -1.0
2'
RI
M E
L.
= 5.1
1'
RIM EL. = 6.50'
INVERT = 4.07'INVERT = 4.04'
INVERT = -1.66'
INVERT -1.40'INVERT =
4.17'
INVERT = 4.17'
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T E
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GRATE EL. = 3.90'
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9/18/2018carrie.strasheim K:\SAR_Roadway\149748001 - Gulfstream and US41 Round\43813713201\drainage\PDPLRD02.DGN3:14:20 PM
438137-1-52-01 SARASOTA SR 45
ROAD NO. FINANCIAL PROJECT IDCOUNTY
DATE DESCRIPTION
REVISIONS
DATE DESCRIPTIONNO.
SHEETSTATE OF FLORIDA
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
CERTIFICATE OF AUTHORIZATION NO. 696
PHONE (941) 379-7600 FAX (941) 379-4352
SARASOTA, FL 34236
1777 MAIN STREET, SUITE 200
P.E. LICENSE NUMBER 49629
GARY J. NADEAU, P.E.
KIMLEY-HORN AND ASSOCIATES, INC.
DESCRIPTION ELEV.(ac.)
AREA
OUTSIDE TOB
POND BOTTOM
0.17
0.13
SWMF POND 2 DATA
3.60
LEGEND
MILLING AND RESURFACING LIMITS
DETECTABLE WARNING
120
STORMWATER MANAGEMENT
FACILITY PLAN SHEET (2)
GULFSTREAM AVE.
SR 45 (U
S 41)
S-101
S-102
S-104
S-103
S-105
S-106
S-106A
S-107
S-208A
S-208
S-205
SD-100
SD-101
PATTERN LINE (TYP.)SWMF CROSS SECTION
N
10 40
Feet
0
2.60
SR 45 (US 41)
CO
R T
O
�342.2
2'(
C)
997.7
5'(
C)
N 00°2
0'4
4"
WS
TA 89
+29.8
8
S-130
S-149
CONST. 14" X 23" PIPE
CONST. 18" PIPE
CONST. 18" PIPE
CONST. 30" PIPE
CONST. 15" PIPE
CONST. 18" PIPE
CONST. 30" PIPE
CONST. 30" PIPE
CONST. 30" PIPE
CONST. 18" PIPE
CONST. 30" PIPE
CONST. 30" PIPE
£ SURVEY GULFSTREAM AVE. (WEST)
£ CONST. SR 45
£ CONST. GULFSTREAM AVE. (EAST)
CONST. 15" PIPE
CONST. 18" PIPE
15'R
CONCRETE REMOVAL
50'
R 50'
R
86.60 RT.
87+46.15
118.30 RT.
86+95.50
114.01 RT.
86+78.30
113.35 RT.
86+54.54
112.72 RT.
86+61.95
88.70 RT.
86+25.95
73.71 RT.
86+26.59
63.53 RT.
86+50.27
77.19 RT.
87+07.87
120.68 RT.
87+52.76
100'
R
50'
R
28'
R
99.48 RT.
86+15.52
18" PIPE
CONST.
177.10 RT.
87+03.60
166.82 RT.
86+83.42
162.53 RT.
86+66.22
WITH FILTER FABRIC
OF 4" UNDERDRAIN
CONST. 120 LF
WITH FILTER FABRIC
OF 4" UNDERDRAIN
CONST. 120 LF
SPACED EVERY 50' ±
PROP. CLEAN OUT
CONST. 6 LF OF 4" PIPE
CONST. 4 LF OF 4" PIPE
LICENSE AGREEMENT
CONST. 15" PIPE
143.36 RT.
87+36.38
F.L. 1.2
97.12 RT.
87+63.82
F.L. 1.2
75.71 RT.
86+26.50
126.26 RT.
87+12.67
F.L. 0.8
123.30 RT.
87+11.90
F.L. 0.8
117.78 RT.
87+00.73
£ SURVEY GULFSTREAM AVE. STA. 86+10.95
BEGIN CONSTRUCTION SWMF POND 2
£ SURVEY GULFSTREAM AVE. STA. 87+80.76
END CONSTRUCTION SWMF POND 2
SWMF POND 2
1:4
95.31 RT.
87+64.67
3.60
2.60
FOR MORE INFORMATION
SEE PLAN SHEETS (2) & (6)
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XI. Topics by Staff
a) Public Art Fund budget
Remaining Fund Balance that could be requested for projects 447,428.93$
Upcoming Projects
De‐installation and Re‐installation of Unconditional Surrender and Complexus (estimate) (150,000.00)$
Foundations for Unconditional Surrender and Complexus (estimate) (40,000.00)$
Fruitville Road/US 41 Roundabout artwork acquistion per agreement with Quay Venture, LLC (250,000.00)$
Available Funds 7,428.93$
Potential public art projects in future years
State Street Parking Garage public art 60,000.00$
Enhanced art on loan program 20,000.00$
Public Art Funds Availability
June 2020
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Equity pooled in fund $1,327,927.01
Escrow $548,055.08
Fund Balance $779,871.93
Encumbrances
10th St and US41 Roundabout PO#021354 $115,000.0014th St and US41 Roundabout PO#0210974 $113,800.00GS Resosurces PO 021410 $9,000.00
$237,800.00Appropriated Projects10th St/US41 Roundabout (001845) $47,000.0014th St/US41 Roundabout (001846) $47,250.00
Misc artwork or expenses $393.00
Total $94,643.00
Equity Pooled $1,327,927.01Minus Escrow $548,055.08
Minus Encumbered $237,800.00$542,071.93
Appropriated Projects $94,643.00Remaining Fund balance that could be requested $447,428.93
$548,055.08
Church of Redeemer $30,239.73Citrus Square (PO#622165) $6,669.75Epoch Residences 605 Gulfstream $244,547.50Plymouth Harbor Inc $45,572.22Sarasota Modern Hotel $55,250.00The Blvd Sarasota $87,500.00The Zahrada $27,600.00Womens Exchange $4,675.88332 Cocoanut LLC $46,000.00
$548,055.08
City of Sarasota Public Art Fund Status For the Period May 2020
130-068-000-220068-000000 (Escrow Balance )
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