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Status on tsim ECL study B.G.Cheon / Y. Unno Hanyang university SuperBelle meeting (2009/03/17-19)

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Status on tsim ECL study

B.G.Cheon / Y. Unno

Hanyang university

SuperBelle meeting (2009/03/17-19)

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Contents

March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 2

1. Belle ECL trigger condition

2. Different responses of tsim

for gsim(Belle) and g4superb(sBelle)

3. Effect of beam background

4. Summary / Plan

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March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 3

ECL trigger conditionBhabha

(Bhabha*) && (ICN<4)

Bhabha* = (Ei > Ethri) , i = 1-11

Pre-scaled Bhabha(pre-Bhabha*) && (ICN < 4)

pre-Bhabha* = scaled Bhabha*

Cosmic (ICNA>0 && ICND>0) || (ICNB>0 && ICNC>0)

(only barrel) || (only forward-endcap)

Physics Etot * || ICN*

Etot * = (Etot>1GeV) && !(Bhabha) && !(Cosmic)

ICN* = (ICN>3) && !(Cosmic)

where, Etot and ICN are in Barrel and forward-endcap

Pattern Components Threshold(GeV)

1 F1+F2+B1+B2 5.0

2 F2+F3+B1+B2+C11+C12 5.5

3 F2 5.0

4 F3+C10+C11+C12 5.0

5 C1+C9+C10 5.0

6 C1+C2+C9 5.0

7 C2+C8+C9 5.0

8 C3+C7+C8 5.0

9 C4+C6+C7 5.0

10 C5+C6 5.0

11 C10 3.0

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Check tsim-ecl with Belle and sBelle

March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 4

B Kp / Bp0p0 / Br0g / Btn / tmg / eeX(214)(mm)g

Without beam background

Belle ecl performance sBelle ecl performance

Super-Belle

Belle tsim-ecl sBelle tsim-ecl

geant3 geant4

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Belle vs sBelle : Etot distribution

March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 5

Clear discrepancies can be seen…why?...Amount of material?

Any mistake?...Have to investigate…

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Check with single track

March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 6

To investigate the discrepancy between gsim and g4superb,

responses from single tracks(g / e- / m- / p- / K+) are checked.

Generate p=5GeV/c single track in CM isotrapically.

Without beam background

Check only Barrel region

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Check with single track

March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 7

Clear differences for p- and K+ can be seen.

hadron interaction effect in g4superb-ecl is strange???

Logarithm scale

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Check with single track

March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 8

Comparison between w/ and w/o inner detector

Note that there is no difference between w/ and w/o inner detector for gsim too.

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Effect of beam bkg

March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 9

sBelle design study report(2008)

Beam background will be

~20 times larger than now.

Have to place top priority on

evaluation of the effect for

trigger with tsim.

Check tsim response for signal MC with “beam background”.

by using current tsim-ecl and gsim

“beam background”(addbg) is real random-triggered data.

Used here is exp.51 data: 2006/04-06(peak L =~ 16x1033/cm2/sec)

(exp.51 beam bkg) x 1, 5, 10, 15, 20 are tested.

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Effect of beam bkg

March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 10

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Effect of beam bkg

March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 11

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Effect of beam bkg

March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 12

Random triggered event under x20 bkg

will be all triggered as physics event ?!…..

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Effect of beam bkg

March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 13

Beam bkg effect with addbg is overestimated for trigger study?

Y.Iwasaki-san pointed out that shaping times are very different

between for trigger and energy measurement in Shaper/QT.

t t

2 ms 10~20? ms

If we can scale the result with addbg by 1/5 or 1/10 simply,

Beam background effect at sBelle looks not so significant.

Anyway, need to check more detail, and correctly/carefully.

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Summary / Plan

March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 14

Summary

Discrepancy between gsim and g4superb seems

due to strange hadron interaction in g4superb(?)

Beam bkg effect has been roughly checked with addbg.

But more detail study is needed (correctly and carefully).

To do:

Check beam background effect more, carefully.

Check Bhabha event

Test new Bhabha scheme(BN477)

Prepare tsim-ecl for sBelle

Check cosmic trigger with cosmic event(?!)

Compare data and mc with current Belle

Check performance with pure CsI in g4superb(?!)

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March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 15

Back up slides

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@ last sBelle meeting

March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 16

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Belle vs sBelle : Bhabha*(B+K+p-)

March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 17

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March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 18

Belle vs sBelle : Bhabha*(B0p0p0)

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March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 19

Belle vs sBelle : Bhabha*(B0r0g)

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March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 20

Belle vs sBelle : Bhabha*(B+t+n)

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March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 21

Belle vs sBelle : Bhabha*(t+m+g)

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Belle vs sBelle : Bhabha*(e+e-m+m-g)

March 18, 2009 Y.Unno 22