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Sub Prime, Bear Market & Recession -Investment Opportunity or too much risk? ankhall Adviser Forum – March 2009 George Pullar – Investment Development Manager

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Page 1: Sub Prime, Bear Market & Recession -Investment Opportunity or too much risk? Bankhall Adviser Forum – March 2009 George Pullar – Investment Development

Sub Prime, Bear Market & Recession

-Investment Opportunity or too much risk?

Bankhall Adviser Forum – March 2009

George Pullar – Investment Development ManagerGeorge Pullar – Investment Development Manager

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A Stellar time for bonds, the search for extra income?

Bankhall and Prudential March 2009Graeme Abell – Partnerships Director

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Mission control – countdown to lift off!

A tour of the universe(market update)

Mystic M&G’s predictions for 2009

How to stop being sucked intoa black hole (UCITS III)

M&G – our very own stars

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Mission control – countdown to lift off!

A tour of the universe(market update)

Mystic M&G’s predictions for 2009

How to stop being sucked intoa black hole (UCITS III)

M&G – our very own stars

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Houston we have a problem

Huge bust following huge boom – prices fallingtwice as fast as during Great Depression

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Source: S&P/Case-Shiller Composite-20 Index yoy, November 2008

% change, yoy

Nominal -18.2%

Real -20.2% November 2008

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181% increase in average price in decade leading up to the peak

18% peak-to-trough drop

Its all gone Apollo 13

A three year crash – eight years to regain peak

Source: Datastream as at September 2008

UK house prices: the last recession

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232% increase in average price in decade leading up to the peak

55% drop to 1990s price/income lows

Its all gone Apollo 13 A long way from cheap

A ’90s style’ adjustment in affordability would bringa 55% peak-to-trough drop in the average house price

Source: Datastream as at December 2008

UK house prices: the current recession

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-1.0-0.50.00.51.01.52.02.53.03.54.04.55.05.56.06.5

2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

UK inflation M&G UK inflation expectations

Time for re-entry

Deflation later this year?

Inflation to stay low…Inflation to stay low…

%

*Sterling overnight index minus 0.12%

3% max limit

1% min limit

2% target

M&G’s UK inflation expectations

Source: M&G, Bloomberg, 5 February 2009

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Over the moon or in a black hole?

2009 Inflation 1.1% below 1%?

Core Food / Energy

1.6% 2.2%

(82%) (18%)

1.4% 0%

2008 Headline inflation 3.8%

Source: Bloomberg, as at 31 July 2008

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0.00.51.01.52.02.53.03.54.04.55.05.56.06.57.0

2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

B of E rate Interest rate futures* M&G Rate expectations

Source: M&G, Bloomberg, 06 January 2009

%

We’re in for a bumpy ride

Low interest rates and low inflation…

*Sterling overnight index minus 0.12%

3% max limit

1% min limit

2% target

Bond market interest rates expectations

UK interest rates will stay lower for longerUK interest rates will stay lower for longer

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Mission control – countdown to lift off!

A tour of the universe(market update)

Mystic M&G’s predictions for 2009

How to stop being sucked intoa black hole (UCITS III)

M&G – our very own stars

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Mystic M&G…..

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“Today people who hold cash equivalents feel comfortable. They shouldn't. They have opted for a terrible long-term asset, one that pays virtually nothing and is certain to depreciate in value”

Warren Buffett, 17 October 2008

Space junk…Cash is trash

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Cash burns long but dimly…

£1000 invested from 31 Dec 1969 to 31st Oct 2008 (net income reinvested)

Source: Morningstar and M&G Statistics as at end December 2008

£0

£1,000

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1969 1972 1975 1978 1981 1984 1987 1990 1993 1996 1999 2002 2005 2008

UK Savings UK Savings (inflation adjusted)

£7,599

£625

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Into the vortex - the credit crunch

Crunch time for bonds

Source: Deutsche Bank, Bloomberg, as at June 2007

June 2007: were investment grade bonds attractive?

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US GDP growth (left axis) US BBB spreads (right axis)

Recession

Economic boomSpreads tightest

since 1978

%

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Oct 2008 : are investment grade corporate bonds attractive now?

Are bond spreads still in a hole?

Into the vortex - the credit crunch

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US GDP growth (left axis) US BBB spreads (right axis)

Recession

Economic boomSpreads tightest

since 1978

%

Spreads widest EVER

Source: Deutsche Bank, Bloomberg, as at 03 December 2008

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UK BBB spreads US BBB spreads

Into the vortex - the credit crunch

Basis points

BBB spreads now at 1932 levels

BBB spreads since 1925

US data since 1925, Europe & UK since 1997 US data since 1925, Europe & UK since 1997

US 773

UK 758

Source: Morgan Stanley, Moody’s, The Yield Book, NBER , Bloomberg/Merrill Lynch, as at 05 January 2009

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UK interest rates Vodafone 5.9% 2032

Source : Bloomberg, 05/02/2009

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Some Rocket Science

Source : Bloomberg, 14/01/2009

Vodafone 5.9% 2032 breakeven analysis

Bond price

Distribution yield = 7.0%

Yield to maturity = 7.4%

Price = 84.9

Return

3.0% = cash75.2

8.2% = gilt79.9

14.5% = constant84.9

15.3% = Pull to par85.6

Two years

Vodafone bond’s price has to fall 11% in the next two years just to break even with cash

YTM = 8.2%

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Blakes 7 Deep Space 9 Apollo 11

The search for income

Source: M&G, 03 October 2008

%Investment grade bond yields

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Assessing the gravity of the situation

Source: *Moody's 2008 annual default study. **Merrill Lynch sterling indices as at November 2008. Implied default rates

On average, only 3%of BBB rated bonds have defaultedwithin 5 years

What’s the default rate been historically?

Rolling 5 year average global default history (1920-2007)

0.2% 0.7% 1.1% 3.1%9.6%

21.4%

37.6%

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AAA AA A BBB BB B CCC-C

INVESTMENT GRADE

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Bond Rating

HIGH YIELD

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Assessing the gravity of the situation

0.2% 0.7% 1.1% 3.1%9.6%

21.4%

37.6%

0%

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AAA AA A BBB BB B CCC-C

Source: *Moody's 2008 annual default study. **Merrill Lynch sterling indices as at November 2008. Implied default rates : Deutsche Bank, Oct 2008

INVESTMENT GRADE

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%

Bond Rating

HIGH YIELD

Even assuming zero recovery rate, almost 30% of investment grade bonds have to default in next 5 years to not beat gilts

What are current corporate bond spreads implying?

Implied default rate - average recovery

Implied - average recovery

Rolling 5 year average global default history (1920-2007)

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Mission control – countdown to lift off!

A tour of the universe(market update)

Mystic M&G’s predictions for 2009

How to stop being sucked intoa black hole (UCITS III)

M&G – our very own stars

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• 2002: UCITS III wider powers, enables the use of new instruments within UCITS funds

• 2004: FSA remodels NURS regime

• Underlying must be eligible and derivatives may not be usedto circumnavigate the rules

• February 2007: All groups must indicate if complying with UCITS or NURS

How to stop being sucked into the black hole

European and UK regulators have become morecomfortable with derivative use in retail funds

(UCITS III) - an expanded universe

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Iceland’s banking system – utter lunarcy!

Source: Prudential M&G

Buying protection on Kaupthing generated a profit for the fund

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How does a CDS work?

We think KAUPTHING will default so we buy protection from investment bank

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How does a CDS work?

KAUPTHINGdefaults, we

receive payoff

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Mission control – countdown to lift off!

A tour of the universe(market update)

Mystic M&G’s predictions for 2009

How to stop being sucked intoa black hole (UCITS III)

M&G – our very own stars

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The stars in our constellation

Source: M&G Investment Information, as at February 2009

FUM£78bn

1st HY corporate bond fund 1998

1st UK corporate bond fund

1994

1st leveraged loan fund, Europe 2005

52analysts

M&G for a galaxy of stars in the bond fund market

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The AnalystsOver 2000 Lehman bonds in the galaxy!Over 2000 Lehman bonds in the galaxy!

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Galactic performance across every single bond fund we manage

M&G Corporate Bond Fund* 1 1 1 1 Richard Woolnough

M&G Strategic Corporate Bond Fund* 1 1 1 N/A Richard Woolnough

M&G Optimal Income Fund* 1 1 N/A N/A Richard Woolnough

M&G Gilt & Fixed Interest Income Fund* 1 1 1 2 Jim Leaviss

M&G High Yield Corporate Bond Fund* 1 1 1 2 Jim Leaviss

M&G Global Macro Bond Fund* 2 2 2 2 Jim Leaviss

M&G Emerging Markets Bond Fund** 1 1 1 1 Jim Leaviss

M&G Index-Linked Bond Fund* 1 1 1 3 Jim Leaviss

M&G International Sovereign Bond Fund* 1 1 1 1 Jim Leaviss

M&G European Corporate Bond Fund*** 2 1 1 1 Stefan Isaacs

M&G European High Yield Bond Fund*** 1 1 1 1 Stefan Isaacs

6m 1y 3y 5y Fund manager

Performance relates to quartile positions

Source:* IMA sectors** Morningstar Fixed Income Global Emerging Markets, as at 31 December 2008, A share class, bid to bid, net income reinvested*** Morningstar Spanish database (Fixed Income EUR – Corporate sector/Europe High Yield, as at 31 December 2008, C share class, bid to bid, net income reinvested

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A meteoric rise to fameFund manager - Richard ‘Wookie’ Woolnough

Number one fund 2000-03*

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Old Mutual CorporateBond Fund*

IMA UK Corporate Bondsector average

Total return (%)

Total return (%)

*Morningstar, 07/07/2000 (Old Mutual Corporate Bond Fund launched) to 30/6/2003 (Richard Woolnough resigns from old Mutual), bid-bid, net of tax ** Morningstar, 20//02/2004 (Richard Woolnough takes over M&G Corporate Bond Fund) to 31/12/2008, bid-bid, net income reinvested, A share class

Outperformed by 13.6% since 2004**

14.4

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M&G Corporate BondFund**

IMA £ Corporate Bondsector average

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Bonds the brightest stars in the galaxy?

• Low interest rates, low inflation

• Spreads at all time high

• Cash has crashed

• Bond opportunity of a lifetime?

It is a stellar time for bonds!

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Light years ahead of the competition!

WINNERBest Fixed

Interest Group

Best Fixed Interest Group

www.bondvigilantes.comwww.bondvigilantes.com

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FOR INVESTMENT PROFESSIONALS ONLY.This Financial Promotion is issued by M&G Securities Limited which is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority and provides investment products. The company’s registered office is Laurence Pountney Hill, London EC4R 0HH. Registered in England number 90776. This document is not intended as an offer to acquire or dispose of any security. Information given in it has been obtained from, or based upon, sources believed by us to be reliable and accurate although M&G does not accept liability for the accuracy of the contents. This information is not intended to constitute a basis for any specific investment decision.