SUBJECT CHOICE FOR LEAVING CERT 2012

St Mogues CollegeThis Information is intended for the use of

parents and students of St. Mogues College only

Core Subjects

In this school you must take: Irish (unless exempt) English Mathematics That leaves you with a choice of

four other subjects from the following list

How Do You Choose?

To choose the rest of your subjects first read through the information on the following pages.

Pay particular attention to the information on LCVP, on why you should do it and what subjects combinations you need.

Carefully read the information on colleges and courses that require French or Science subjects.

How Do You Choose Cont’d? Consider what subjects you are good at? What courses or careers are you interested in

after you do your Leaving Cert? What subjects do you need to get into those

courses or careers? What subjects would be useful if not

necessary for such courses and careers? What subjects do you like? Use the Scoring Sheets for each Option. Now choose one subject from each Option.

The Four Options 1,2,3,4

Choose just one subject from each Option Group A: Agricultural Science or French Group B: Biology or Geography or

Physics & Chemistry Group C: Business or Construction

Studies Group D: Design & Communications

Graphics or History or Home Economics

LEAVING CERTIFICATE SUBJECT CHOICE

Preliminary Choice

 

Group A: (Ag. Science/French) ___________________ Group B: (Biology/Phys+Chem/Geog.) ___________________ Group C: (Bus/ Const. St.) ___________________ 

Group D: (Design CG/History/Home Ec.) ___________________ 

Signed: __________________ Date: ___________(Students Name)

The completed form should be given to the Principal not later than Friday 23rd April 2010

Do I Need to Take French in My Leaving Cert

I want to go to University College Dublin(UCD), University College Cork(UCC), NUI Galway, NUI Maynooth, Pontifical University Maynooth, Royal College of Surgeons, Shannon College of Hotel Management.

I want to do a course that requires French.

I want to join the Cadets

What Can I Do Without French

French is not required for entry to: Nursing DCU, Trinity College, University of

Limerick, Primary Teacher Training The Institutes of Technology e.g. Sligo Most Engineering, Agriculture, Science

or Actuarial Courses in NUI Galway, NUI Maynooth, UCC and UCD (See Exceptions)

A pass in Polish, Lithuanian etc., at Leaving Cert can be substituted for French

Do I need a Science Subject

I want to do a course that requires a science subject (Engineering, Nursing, Forensics etc.,)

I want to do Science at College I want to train as a primary teacher in

the U.K. I want to do Beauty Therapy etc., in

Cavan Institute There is a growing scarcity of qualified

scientists

Why should I do LCVP?

The Leaving Cert Vocational Programme (LCVP) provides:

Enterprise Education Careers Education Work Experience Interview Skills Can be substituted for points instead

of your subject with the lowest grade.

What do I need for LCVP? For Leaving Cert Vocational

Programme (LCVP) you need: At least 5 Leaving Cert subjects

including Irish. Two subjects from a list of Vocational

Subject Optionings (VSG’s). Study either French or ab initio French

or Spanish to Leaving Cert.

Vocational Subject Groupings 2009/2010

1

Biology orBusiness orConstruction Studies orDesign & Communication Graphics orHome Economics

and Agricultural Science

2 Physics & Chemistry and Biology

3Business or

Construction Studiesand Design & Communication Graphics

4 Biology or Business and Home Economics

Science Subjects AGRICULTURAL SCIENCE

– Applies Biology, Physics & Chemistry to agriculture.– Very good for careers in agriculture and science.

BIOLOGY– Science of living things.– Very good for careers in science, sport, nursing,

hairdressing and beauty care. PHYSICS & CHEMISTRY

– Science of chemicals, materials, heat, light, electricity and motion.

– Very good for science, engineering, practical careers and apprenticeships e.g. fitting, plumbing and electrical etc.,

Technology Subjects CONSTRUCTION

– Follows on from Materials Technology wood.– Deals with all aspects of construction, building design

and building theory and regulations.– Very good for all Construction, Engineering, Design,

practical careers and apprenticeships.

DESIGN & COMMUNICATION GRAPHICS– Used to be known as Technical Drawing.– Follows on from Technical Graphics.– Very good for all Construction, Engineering, Design,

practical careers and apprenticeships.

Business, Geography, History, Home Economics

Follow on from the Junior Courses of the same names very good for social, personal and academic development

Business: very good for all business careers and self-employed.

History & Geography: very good for all careers in social, travel, tourism, international trading, communications, policy-making or teaching.

Home Economics: very good subject for any career in food, hotel, catering, travel, tourism, social work, nursing or caring areas.

Seven Things That Are Not Relevant to Subject Selection

Only swots and licks do that subject. Only girls/boys do that subject. None of my friends are doing that subject. I don’t like the teacher. I will do it because it’s a doss. I hate the subject but I’ll do it anyway in case

I want to do a course I might need it for. If I don’t do it for the Leaving Cert. then I

won’t be able to do any course that it is part of at college.

Points & Courses

There are over 3,000 courses available at Third Level, 1,335 in the CAO system and 1,871 in Further Education

Here are a small sample of the best known CAO courses

Over 40% of all courses had points requirements of less than 300 in 20098

For a full listing of every Third Level and Further Education course in Ireland log onto www.qualifax.ie

For more information on careers log onto www.careersportal.ie

Sample Points & Courses 2009

Course Course ProviderQualification

Points

BusinessAthlone Institute of Technology

Level 8 NFQ 230

Accounting Athlone Institute of Technology

Level 8 NFQ 235

Accounting & Finance Dundalk Institute of Technology

Level 8 NFQ 305

Finance & Accounting NUI Maynooth Level 8 NFQ 375

Business & Management

Dublin Institute of Technology

Level 8 NFQ 410

Accounting & Finance Dublin City University Level 8 NFQ 435

Actuarial & Financial Studies

University College Dublin

Level 8 NFQ 530

Course Course Provider Qualification Points

Design & Technology Education at Letterfrack

Galway-Mayo IT - Galway

Level 8 NFQ 415

Early Childhood Education Dublin Institute of Technology

Level 8 NFQ 410

Education - Primary Teaching Froebel College of Education

Level 8 NFQ 465

Education - Primary Teaching St. Patrick's College Drumcondra

Level 8 NFQ 475

Home Economics with Biology - Second Level Teaching

St. Angela's College Sligo

Level 8 NFQ 470

Physical Education with Biology

Dublin City University Level 8 NFQ 475

Physical Education with concurrent Teacher Education

University of Limerick Level 8 NFQ 500

Science - Education Dublin City University Level 8 NFQ 400

Science Education NUI Maynooth Level 8 NFQ 470

Course Course Provider QualificationPoints

Arts NUI Maynooth Level 8 NFQ 375

Computer Science

University College Dublin Level 8 NFQ 370

Engineering Dublin Institute of Technology Level 8 NFQ 310

Engineering - Omnibus

University College Dublin Level 8 NFQ 445

Law - BCL University College Dublin Level 8 NFQ 470

Medicine University College Dublin Level 8 NFQ 719

Nursing General - Standard

Dundalk Institute of Technology

Level 8 NFQ 380

For a full listing of every Third Level and Further Education course in Ireland log onto www.qualifax.ie For more information on careers log onto www.careersportal.ie

% Band LC Grades Higher Level Points

Ordinary Level Points Bonus*

90 -100 A1 100 60 40

85 - 89 A2 90 50 35

80 - 84 B1 85 45 30

75 - 79 B2 80 40 25

70 - 74 B3 75 35 20

65 - 69 C1 70 30 15

60 - 64 C2 65 25 10

55 - 59 C3 60 20 5

50 - 54 D1 55 15 *Higher Maths in UL

45 - 49 D2 50 10

40 - 44 D3 45 5

LCVP Distinction Merit Pass

70 points 50 points 30 points

Important Information

All the information given on subject requirements is the most up to date available at this time (April 2010) and is based on www.qualifax.ie

The information given on LCVP subject requirements is the most up to date available at this time (April 2010) and is based on DESC Circular 13/2009

Exceptions

Specific Subject Required

Code Course College Specific Subject

CK405 Genetics UCCHC3 in Biology

TR056Human Health & Disease

Trinity

HC3 in Biology & HC3 in Physics & Chemistry

3rd Language Required

DN096Science -Health & performance

UCD

DN037Science –Biomedical, Health & Life

UCD

GY 304B.Sc. in Biotechnology

NUIG