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Questions Answers
How were
Americans
perceived by
people in the
Soviet Union?
What sort of
things were said
about "average
Americans" by
the government
and the media?
American people were
presented as two main
classes. Class of
capitalists who were
ruling the country and
hated us. The other
class was of workers
and peasants who
were just like us.
Capitalists were war
thirsty evils who wereso afraid of the spread
of communism
awareness that they
were prepared to
wage wars to stop
it.The only good part
was poor oppressed
common people of US
who did not have
enough courage to
revolt. Here is the
example: It changedhowever when
Gorbachev came into
power and we saw the
real picture which was
of course different.
I know there
are plenty of
people who grew
up and lived in
the Soviet Union
that completelysupported
Communism and
to this day, would
love it if it was
back. Were you
supportive of the
Soviet Union
while you were
growing up? If so,
would you want
Communism to
We were so
brainwashed and were
not taught to think.
We were blindly
excepting and
repeating the opinionsalready put in front of
us by our teachers.
Iron Curtain was doing
its toll as well as I did
not know any different
and had no reason to
doubt the official point
of view. I was very
patriotic when I was
growing up.I am
looking at North Korea
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probably very similar
how they live there. I
was 100% supportive
of everything our
leaders did. I would
not like for
Communism to return.
I think it is not
possible and wasproved to fail,
however the society
with some socialist
values would be ideal
I think.
American
citizens were
taught to believe
that we'd win a
nuclear war,
capitalism wassuperior, and
that they could
survive a nuclear
strike by hiding
underneath
desks. What
things did your
government tell
you?
Pretty much the
complete opposite,
however we were told
that we had to
compete in the arms
race to protect thegood people of the
world from the
Capitalist
warmongers. The
difference was we
were told there would
be no winners in a
nuclear war.
I can
understand ifthings weren't
great in the
Soviet Union, but
I'm sure there
were some good
parts to your life
there. What do
you miss the
most?
The kind of people
that we were. It hasgone once we started
to get American
chewing gum and
jeans. People used to
care after each other.
I remember making
40 minutes journey to
kinder garden on my
own when I was 5.
Apart from walking it
involved 2 bus
changes and crossingroads. None of my
guardians ever
thought I could be in
danger. It was that
safe!! I remember
when I lost my tickets
in Moscow and was
sending a telegram to
my relatives to send
me the money -
someone in the queue
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and just gave me the
money, because I was
in need. I remember
my parents coming
home after work with
a stranger.
Apparently, they saw
him sleeping on the
bench as he had nomoney for the hotel
and his train was
departing the next
day. They thought he
did not have to sleep
on the bench as we
had a folding bed we
set up for him in the
kitchen after giving
him dinner. People
trusted each other
more and were more
caring. Most did not
care about
materialistic things.
Were you
affected by
Chernobyl?
I am not sure if that
counts or even if that
was an effect from
Chernobyl, but here is
the story. Chernobyl is
in Ukraine, however
70% of radioactive
rains fell on Belarus
territory within the
first few months. I
lived 400 km away
from it, when it
happened. My parents
and myself went to
live for 4 years in
Mongolia 3 months
after the disaster
happened. Something
peculiar happened
there. About 10
months after thedisaster mu mother
started to loose her
hair. She was a
healthy woman and
doctors could not find
an explanation to
that, neither could
they cure it. She
learnt to live wearing
wig and has no hair
even on her e ebrows
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and eyelids for the
last 25 years. Was it
Chernobyl? I don't
know. My Grandfather
used to live within
200 km of Chernobyl.
They were measuring
radiation levels in his
village and told the
residents that it was
not safe to live there.
Apparently there was
a radioactive patch
there. No one allowed
to grow food for sale
in that area even now.
My granddad refused
to move out and lived
there until 1996 and
died aged 77. I have
visited him few times
within last 10 years ofhis life. They said the
area was not clean - it
is hard to understand
when you don't see it
From what I've
heard, people in
the United States
were in constant
fear of being
attacked. Were
people in theSoviet Union just
as afraid?
Yes it was exactly the
same. I had a personal
issue gas mask and
basic military
education lessons
from the age of ten.
That was also the ageI was shown how to
shoot from a AK-74
You have lived
in both - east or
west? Good and
bad sides?
Hard to say which is
better. The good
things about the east
was that everyone in
your community was
more less equal. What
you had everyone else
had. People also had
more moral valuesand everyone would
help each other out in
the community .I
didnt know then but
the bad thing was that
we had less freedom
of expressing our
thoughts on any
issues. In the west the
bad thing is that
sometimes people who
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are a bit mad are free
to do what they want
which can affect
society in bad ways.
Quite often when you
are in trouble you are
on your own you dont
get enough help. In
the Soviet Union the
state would look afteryou and your life
could be planned
many years ahead.
The good things are
the opportunities and
choices that you have
here in the west.
Why was toilet
paper in the
USSR so rough?
So that even thelast arse would
be red.
Funnily enough Toilet
paper was hard to
come by and was
indeed rough. Mostpeople used old
newspapers instead.
Good Joke!
What was the
one thing you
were most
excited about or
what was the
thing you most
enjoyed after
communism fell
that you couldn't
have prior?
The most exiting part
to us was that we
discovered a whole
world that was hidden
or distorted. The thing
I enjoyed most after
communism was
freedom to travel
where I want.
What is your
present day view
on communism?
I think that
Communism is an
Utopia. It is impossible
to create a society
where everyone would
live abiding a set of
rules driven by their
consciousness alone.
The simplified
definition of
communism for Soviet
citizens was:It is
when you give to the
society all you can and
take only what really
need in return-no
questions asked. I
would prefer
Capitalism with a
Socialist front.
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If you could go
back to the 70's
and move to
America with
your family, a
house, a car, and
a magical
knowledge ofamerican English,
would you do it?
Also, how do you
feel about this
picture? Link to
zg.swl-clan.at.
No I wouldnt, (I
wouldnt even do it
now as I am happy in
The UK and America is
a bit too extreme for
me)In the 70s we
didnt have a car or
our own house. Webought our first TV in
1982 and it was Black
and White! However I
enjoyed that life and I
wouldnt swap it for
the American dream
Also I enjoyed your
comic.
If you enjoyed
a simpler life
more, why areyou living in the
UK and not a
more "old
fashioned"
country?
I felt very comfortable
living in the USSR
before the changes.That country and the
society does not exist
any more. Instead
there is a lot of
instability and people
who went through a
difficult
transformation. I like
to have stable and
safe life. In the late
90's I came to UK to
work and found the
stability I was looking
for. I feel comfortable
here and this is my
country now. My both
children were born in
London and I serve
my new motherland
by working for
Metropolitan Police.
Love my job and
Londoners. I consider
myself privileged to
have two Motherlands.I am twice richer then
most people because I
have incorporated the
best from both
systems and very
different cultures.
Is it true that
people in the
USSR used do
Not always and not
everywhere and not
anything. In 70's
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to get a smuggled
pair of blue jeans
from the United
States? I've
always heard
this, but I want
to know whether
it actually
happened.
to trade oil and
brought in some
imported goods. There
were people who had
access to this stuff and
corruption was of
unbelievable
proportions. It was a
basic human nature towant to have
something
fashionable, that
others could not get.
Sometimes moral
values were failing for
those on a hunt for
material gain. I
believe it affected a
small amount of
people who lived in
big cities and had
foreign friends. I had
my first pair of jeans
in 1986 and it was not
a big deal for me. My
parents had them
earlier. I remember
that their cost about
half month's salary
(80 - 100 roubles) a
pair if you were lucky
enough to get it from
the shop. It would cost
considerably morefrom people who
would find the
opportunity to buy
them for resale
A Social
Democracy, or
regulated
Capitalsim. In
terms of modern
times, I wonder if
somebody fromCuba would be
willing to do
some sort of
AMA, last time I
checked it was
one of the few
remaining
'Communist'
Countries, that
wasn't in reality
under some
Nationalism was on a
rise in the early 90s.
It all died down as far
as I know. There is a
minority of
Belorusians who are
fussed aboutpreserving the
language and culture.
Most people I meet
when I visit see the
future of Belarus
tightly connected with
Russia. the cultures
are too similar, the
history is so
inseparable. As for the
glorifying communism
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harsh dystopian
rule. Also, since I
note that you are
from Belarus,
what do you
think of
nationalism
there? I watched
a documentary
on post SovietRepublics,
apparently people
there are upset
that Communism
is still glorified
there and that it
is pressed as
more as an
association of
Russia than it's
own state,
leadingnationalism to be
at a low. Do you
keep in much
contact with
Belarus still?
- I used to live on the
SOVETSKAYA STREET
200 meters away from
LENIN SQUARE and
the monument to
LENIN. My parents still
live there and last
time I checked (April
2012) all of those
were still there.However, the way it is
viewed is not
glorifying anything,
but "what is the point
to destroy something
that was our history".
If anything it is a good
reminder. I think most
people just not
bothered about keep
changing the names of
the streets.
Any bad things
you see as a kid?
No actually not. All
the bad things that I
saw were the lawless
times of transition
from communist to
market economytimes. Mafia, racket,
corruption, greed,
despair. It was crazy
and dangerous time -
life cost very little and
everyone could only
count on themselves
to survive.
Have you
visited Belarus
since?
Yes a few times. Last
time in April 2012
with my wife and myson. I still have a big
family living all over
ex Soviet countries.
They come to see me
in the UK too.
Can you travel
freely in Belarus?
AFAIK it's the last
'real' dictatorship
in Euro e still.
Yes, you can travel
freely within Belarus
and Russia - they
have no borders like
some EU countries.
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How free is it?
Until recently you
would need a special
permission to be able
to go abroad, in fact
just a stamp in your
passport. That would
refuse this stamp to
people who are on bail
for some criminal
offences, or refuse to
undergo National
conscript service and
stuff like that.
Apparently, even that
obstacle is taken off
now. I cannot
comment on how free
is Belarus, I don't live
there,though have my
parents, relatives and
friends living there.
My impression is thatit is an autocratic
state, where majority
doesn't mind that.
Most feel safe to live
in such state without
interference from
other countries. I am
a strong believer that
the people and not
personalities are the
driving force of the
history. When and ifBelarus and its people
would be ready to
change the way their
live - they would be
able to do it
themselves. Look at
the examples of
Orange revolution in
Ukraine and Rose
revolution in Georgia.
It has been
orchestrated from theWest and as such did
not live long. It
reverted back to
pre-orange era in
Ukraine and it seems
that the same is
happening in Georgia
now.
Where you
able to visit other
There were no
restrictions for
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Bloc countries?
What were your
experiences away
from home while
within the
greater USSR?
travelling within the
USSR (Estonia, Latvia,
Lithuania, Belarus,
Ukraine, Moldova,
Georgia, Azerbaijan,
Armenia,
Turkmenistan,
Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan
Kazakhstan,
Uzbekistan andRussia) , but travelling
to other countries was
a nightmare. Most
citizens have never
been abroad. As a
teenager I was lucky
to go to Mongolia with
my parent s where my
Dad went to work. It
took them over 6
months to get the
appropriate forms andmedical tests done.
They would have to
have a good
reputation and even
family up to cousins
was checked for
reliability. It was
considered to be a
great honour to
represent the USSR
abroad. The place I
lived in was close toPolish borders. I don't
recall a single person
who went there at the
time.
Did people
ever come from
other countries
like Poland?
I would suspect a few
did, however I saw
none as I lived in a
small town (200,000
people) in Belarus. In
that town during
Soviet times I nevermet any foreigners
apart from in 1980
where all the trains
from Western Europe
passed through our
town carrying Olympic
Athletes to Moscow.
Me and my Grandma
went and brought
flowers for the
Athletes to make them
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country, no one
asked/forced us to do
it.
There were no
restrictions for
travelling within
the USSR. Come
on. Maybe one ofyour parents
were
high-ranking
officials, but not
for everyone.
The only places you
wouldnt be able to go
to without good
reason would be few
towns involved withthe production of
sensitive military
equipment, few towns
around Baikanur(
Space Rocket launch
facility) for example. I
am only talking about
travel in the 70s and
80s, no restrictions
just buy a ticket and
go. Different story if
you wanted to moveand live in a different
place, there would be
a few obstacles. My
Father was an
engineer not a high
ranked official by the
way.
What are your
thoughts about
Putin and his
influences in thelast years. Do
you think he is
attempting to
take things back
to the Soviet
days?
I dont think that it is
possible to take Russia
back to
Soviet/Communistdays. However it is
possible to regain the
might and influence
that the USSR had in
its time and I think
this is what Putin and
most Russians want
and so do I. The
current world lacks
polarity and as a
result stability. Two or
more powerful nationswith differing opinions
could make the world
better and fairer.
Were you
raised to think
anything
negative about
america?
Yes I was. The only
good part was poor
oppressed common
people of US who did
not have enough
courage to revolt.
Here is the example:
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It c ange owever
when Gorbachev came
into power.
Were there
any private
houses in Belarus
when you lived
there? I am
curious how asocialist system
handles housing.
Does everyone
get the same
sized
home/apartment?
Most people were
living in the blocks of
flats. However some
were living in the
private sector and had
their own houses. Ithink it was a privilege
of people connected
with the countryside,
farming. Living in the
big industrial town
you would have no
option to purchase
your own house -
there were not many
built and you would
never save enough for
it. You would usuallystart your carrier at
the factory. That
would give you a room
in the hostel or
something like that
and put you on the list
for the flat/apartment.
Depending on the area
where you lived, you
would probably work
for that organisation
for 6-9 years beforeyou get municipal
accommodation.
Blocks of flats were
built in accordance
with 5 year plans
made by party
officials. There was
never enough
housing. Those living
in their own houses
would probably inherit
them after living few
mixed up generations
under one roof for
decades. My family
never had their own
property, not even a
car, which was such a
luxury.
I heard you
had to apply for a
car and wait for a
Yes that is true. You
could only buy Soviet
made car anyway. In
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me per o . e s e s wou
be few years long if
you wanted to buy it
for the government
price. There were
people who bought
cars and resold them.
Your queue to get car
could be quicker if you
asked your granddad -veteran of war to do it
for you. That would
have priveledges and
their queue would be
shorter - could buy a
car within a year, if
you had the money.
Gorbachev
seems to be
despised by
former citizens ofthe Soviet Union,
what is your
opinion of him?
He is my best
politician of all the
times and countries.
He had the courage toadmit inevitable and
get the country away
from the catastrophe
of much more
dramatic end. Most
Soviet people
associate him with the
hardest time in their
lives. Sad. He is one
of the most sensible
and charismatic
people on the worldstage.
Best
book/movie of
what it was like
in the Soviet
Union?
I don't think I watched
or read any specific
things about the life in
Soviet Union. No. I
know the best movie
actually - Moscow
Does Not Believe in
Tears (1980) Moskva
slezam ne verit
(original title). Thisfilm won the Oscar. If
there is anything you
would like to learn
about Soviet Union -
this one is the best
reflection. Just the life
of few ordinary
citizens throughout
couple of decades. It
covers only 60s and
70s, but this is the
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and love.
If you have
read 1984, how
similar was the
USSR to the
setting in the
book?
I haven't read 1984,
but I know what it's
about. I personally
lived in such a bubble
that i didn't feel that it
was a 1984 type
society.
How did the
education system
work in the
USSR? Could
anyone go to a
university? If not,
how did one do
it?
Yes anyone could go
to an university. All
you needed to do was
finish ten years of
school and pass
entrance exams.
Usually for 4 or 5
subjects. It's
absolutely free, free
place in a hostel,
bursary money andguess what? At the
end guaranteed work
placement when you
leave if you wanted it.
It might not be the
best working place or
in a nice big city, but
it was there if you
needed it. Your new
workplace would be
responsible for finding
your accommodation ifyou needed it.
How do you
feel about your
Polish neighbors?
Antagonists? Or
brothers
separated by a
border?
I love Polish
neighbours. I think we
have so much in
common. I was born
250 km away from
Polish border. I like
Poland without politics
and believe it should
stay that way. When
you start looking atthe history - not so
great. I am not the
one to judge, but I
think great mistakes
were done on both
sides. I was born in
West Belarus, which
some Polish people
would remember as
Eastern Rech
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like to think that they
have the right for that
land. I have met many
older Beloarussians
who used to live under
Poland. Most of them
remeber it was not
great. Polish masters
had no consideration
for Belorussianlanguage and culture
and treated peasants
like slaves. In 1939
when Soviet Army
went in West Belarus,
common people
genuinely were happy
to be liberated from
Polish oppression. I
think some started
changing their minds
when the horror ofcommunist oppression
started to sink in,
however the war
started in 1941 and
up to 1/3 of civil
population of Belarus
died as a result of that
war. You cannot look
back and have the
grudge at either Polish
or Russians. I believe
we are all very close
Slavic people and
should be brothers. I
have many Polish
friends in UK. We
never even get to
discuss the past and
the history - pointless.
What is your
opinion of the
original Marxist
ideology, as
opposed to how it
was
implemented, if
there is a
difference? And is
there really a
difference?
I think it is very
complicated. Even for
the young communist
as I was. My opinion is
that you cannot
predict the way the
society will evolve and
nudge it in that
direction. Marx
created some sort of a
BIBLE by writing "THE
CAPITAL" and
"COMMUNISM
MANIFESTO". Like the
BIBLE it was so
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to interpretations. I do
not think anyone can
honestly say that
know exactly what
were Marx's intentions
and how he saw the
future world.
Communists in Soviet
Union like priests inthe church tried to
find instructions in
that book for every
aspect of everyday's
life. I think for
ideology to be alive (
the same as religion)
it should adapt to any
current situation and
be fairly flexible to
satisfy the majority.
What was the
justification for
calling the
capitalists
"warmongers"?
The Americans at
least withdrew
from the territory
they had
conquered during
WWII.
Not my words
Soviet Propagandas
To be honest its hard
to disagree
considering Americas
involvement in every
conflict since
WWII(Korea, Vietnam,
Grenada, El Salvador,
Honduras even
Afghanistan in the
80s)
I have heard
that the
architecture was
very peculiar, in
the sense that if
there was one
good building it
was to be rebuild
the same way, 5
times, in a row.
Is this true? And
how well were
the buildings
maintained?
There were 2 types of
passports in Soviet
Union and after it -
internal and external
for going abroad. For
some strange reason,
after USSR collapsed
all the independent
republics kept using
the old blank
passports for few
years. The copy I
provided was my
external passport
issued by independent
Republic of Belarus in
1995. You would have
to be born in the
USSR to be issued
with that. I still have
my internal USSR
passport somewhere
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passport at the age of
16. It is all in Russian
though . Are you
working in Border
Control by any
chance? You should be
a detective - well done
for spotting that!
Also, not to
criticize you but
wasn't the Soviet
Union dissolved
in 1991? Your
certificate says
1995.
You are right about
the buildings. It was
just mass production -
the easiest way to
build is to create one
design and copy it
across the country.
There is a cult movie
in USSR when one lad
just moved in to a
new district new block
of flats of Moscow inabout 1980. Then he
went to sauna with his
friends just before
New Year, got drunk
and accidently they
got him on the plane
to Leningrad instead
of someone else.
When he arrived in
that city, he took a
taxi and gave him his
address. The driver
took him to the same
street name and the
same apartment block
number, but in
Leningrad - not in
Moscow. The area was
so similar - he did not
even spot the
difference. The block
was the exact copy
and even his keys
matched the door
lock. The rest was justpure comedy.
Thanks for the
reply! I do not
work in Border
Control, but I am
very interested in
the Soviet Union
and the scientific
research that
It is called The Irony
Of Fate and it was
filmed in 1976. I do
not know if there is a
subtitled English
version, but I
managed to find
animated intro to the
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area. Also the
movie that you
described sounds
very funny, do
you remember
the name of it?
link to watch it
In Belarus, is
there genuinepopular support
for Lukashenka,
or is he incredibly
unpopular? I've
been told that,
though there is a
lot of vote
rigging, it isn't
quite as simple as
a dictatorship.
Last time I went there
(April 2012) I metmainly two types of
people. One type
which support him one
hundred percent and
call him father of the
nation, and another
type which could see
no worthy alternative
to him as they believe
current opposition to
be heavily sponsored
by the west and
doesn't reflect the
aspirations of the
people. Both types
would vote
Lukashenka- better
the devil you know
than the devil you
don't. I think the
country is so far from
a market economy
that most people are
too scared to turn
back and go throughthe horrors of shock
therapy neighbouring
states went through
some time ago.
Do you have
an opinion on the
Republic of
Georgia? When I
was in Russia, I
made friends with
a kid from there
my age back
then-- he's a
lawyer now,
seeking to
immigrate to the
UK. He's
extremely critical
of Russia and its
influence of
former Soviet
re ublics.
I love Georgians. They
have such a unique
culture. I think
Russians adore their
cute accent. By the
way, I think it is the
only nation in the
world which calls the
father - MAMA, and
the mother - PAPA. I
don't know what
happened recently, I
mean last 20 years. I
remember when USSR
was collapsing, Russia
was supporting some
separatist movements
within Geor ia. In
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return, Georgian
government started to
support Chechens
when they wanted
independence. As for
the influence, it seems
that like in older days
it is again either
American or Russian
influence and I can
relate to the feeling
that it is better to step
up and try to be in
control in bordering
regions, rather then
let very remote and
alien US to fill the
gap? I came from
Belarus which have
greater integration
with Russia then any
other ex republic,which is build on a
very different and
fairer base. I think it
is the way forward for
a few other countries
in the region - if they
want it! There is not
that much bullying
any more from Russia
and countries have
choices (that does not
necessarily apply toGeorgia. I am not
happy about Russian
attitude towards
breakaway regions)
How was living
in Mongolia
different from
living in Belarus?
Very different in many
ways. Culture,
climate. Most
importantly,
Mongolians had much
lower living conditions
and it made us sovietpeople apreciate more
what we had in the
USSR.
Is there are
brain drain
happening in
Belarus? Where
the people with
smarts and
ambition leave
Sorry but I honestly
don't know. I live in
the UK but I wouldn't
call myself a brain. It
is very difficult for
people in Belarus to
find wa s to o and
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the country?
work/live abroad
unless it's in Russia or
Ukraine
Do you hate
the "In Soviet
Russia..." meme?
No, I find it cute! It is
a very Russian quality
- to be able to laugh
at ourselves. "In
Soviet Russia" has gotvery little connection
with the reality and it
is funny in different
way. Funny to see
what people think
Soviet Russia was. Its
the same as some
Americans used to
think that bears were
wondering the streets
of Moscow and other
stereotypes..
Did you ever
see the Russian
hard rock band
Gorky Park in
concert in the
late 80's? If so,
what was the
public/private
opinion towards
them? And did
you see the
Moscow Music
Peace Festival?
It was extremely
popular and I was a
fan as well. I watched
Moscow Music Peace
Festival on TV. I was
not lucky enough to
go to Luzhniki
Stadium to watch it.
That was my kind of
music at the time. I
think most young
people in USSR at that
time were discovering
rock and hard rock
music without limits.
The soloist of GORKY
PARK - Alexander
Marshal is still singing,
but he is a pop artist
now.
What makes
more sense,
English or
Russian?
If you are asking
about the language -
ENGLISH. It is simple
and precise. The best
language for
instructions hence
making sense..
Russian is beautiful in
poetry though!
Have you ever
read "Russian
Disco" by
No I haven't, thanks
for mentioning I will
look in to it.
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Kaminer?
Were you
shocked the first
time you went
outside Soviet?
No I was not shocked,
just excited. By the
time I went outside
Soviet Union I have
already seen what the
life was like on TV and
met other people whohave been some
places. I was just
excited to see it with
my own eyes. A bit
like if you saw
Egyptian Pyramids
many times in the
books or TV and one
day actually went and
saw them in front of
you?
,
Privet zemlyak!
Lets imagine,
its the 80's you
get to see a
propaganda video
of the U.S
lifestyle. and its
showneverything, that
the average
family owned at
that time. What
would have gone
trough your head
after you saw
that video.
I believe I have seen
those propaganda
documentaries.
Inevitably, they had
Soviet commentaries.
I just would not
believe that a commonUS citizen would have
such an easy and
relaxed life and have
so much opportunities.
We were told that all
the luxuries were
affordable only by the
rich and it was
achieved via centuries
of slave driving
ordinary American
people and otherpeace loving nations.
Basically, I would view
those films as "The
propaganda" and
nothing common with
the real life.
In soviet
russia... you
don't wear
earmuffs...
In Soviet Russia
president assasinates
you!
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earmuffs wear
you.
Do you see
similarities
between the
rhetoric of
democrat
politicians in the
US and the
communists of
Belarus?
Sorry, I cannot
comment as I do not
follow US domestic
politics a lot. Sorry to
dissapoint.
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