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Technical Committee on Commissioning and Integrated Testing (CMI-AAA) NFPA 3/4 Second Draft Meeting (Annual 2017) Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - Wednesday, August 24, 2016 NFPA Headquarters 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169 AGENDA 1. Call to Order 8:00 am (8/23) 2. Introduction and Attendance 3. Chairman Comments 4. Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes 5. Staff Liaison Presentation on NFPA’s new Revision Process and A2017 Revision Cycle 6. Preparation of the Second Draft Review Public Comments Create Second Revisions Discuss Action on Committee Inputs 7. New Business 8. Adjourn Meeting No earlier than 3pm (8/24/16) Please submit requests for additional agenda items to the chair and staff liaison at least seven days prior to the meeting.

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Technical Committee on Commissioning and Integrated Testing

(CMI-AAA) NFPA 3/4 Second Draft Meeting (Annual 2017)

Tuesday, August 23, 2016 - Wednesday, August 24, 2016

NFPA Headquarters

1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169

AGENDA

1. Call to Order – 8:00 am (8/23)

2. Introduction and Attendance

3. Chairman Comments

4. Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes

5. Staff Liaison Presentation on NFPA’s new Revision Process and A2017 Revision Cycle

6. Preparation of the Second Draft

Review Public Comments

Create Second Revisions

Discuss Action on Committee Inputs

7. New Business

8. Adjourn Meeting – No earlier than 3pm (8/24/16)

Please submit requests for additional agenda items to the chair and staff liaison at least

seven days prior to the meeting.

Address List No PhoneCommissioning and Integrated Testing CMI-AAA

Jacqueline Wilmot08/04/2016

CMI-AAA

Maurice M. Pilette

ChairMechanical Designs Ltd.67 Chouteau AvenueFramingham, MA 01701-4259

SE 10/18/2011CMI-AAA

Cecil Bilbo, Jr.

PrincipalAcademy of Fire Sprinkler Technology, Inc.301 North Neil Street, Suite 426Champaign, IL 61820-3170Alternate: Milosh T. Puchovsky

SE 10/18/2011

CMI-AAA

Art Black

PrincipalCarmel Fire Protection AssociatesPO Box 7168Carmel-by-the-Sea, CA 93921-7168Alternate: David O. Lowrey

E 10/18/2011CMI-AAA

Bruce H. Clarke

PrincipalAmerican International Group, Inc. (AIG)8606 Driscoll CourtCharlotte, NC 28269-6105

I 10/18/2011

CMI-AAA

Shane M. Clary

PrincipalBay Alarm Company60 Berry DrivePacheco, CA 94553Alternate: Thomas F. Norton

IM 10/18/2011CMI-AAA

Michael D. DeVore

PrincipalState Farm Insurance CompanyOne State Farm Plaza, C-2Bloomington, IL 61710-0001NFPA Industrial Fire Protection Section

I 08/17/2015

CMI-AAA

Paul F. Dunphy, Jr.

PrincipalHarvard University46 Blackstone StreetCambridge, MA 02139Association of Higher Education Facilities OfficersAlternate: Alan H. Sactor

U 10/18/2011CMI-AAA

Douglas W. Fisher

PrincipalFisher Engineering, Inc.10475 Medlock Bridge Road, Suite 520Johns Creek, GA 30097-4437Alternate: Jeremy W. John

SE 10/18/2011

CMI-AAA

Lawrence W. Forshner

PrincipalBard, Rao + Athanas Consulting Engineers, LLC311 Arsenal StreetWatertown, MA 02472-5789Alternate: James L. Graffam

SE 10/18/2011CMI-AAA

David W. Frable

PrincipalUS General Services AdministrationPublic Buildings Service665 Green Meadow LaneGeneva, IL 60134

U 10/18/2011

CMI-AAA

Kimberly A. Gruner

PrincipalFike Corporation704 South 10th StreetBlue Springs, MO 64015-4263Alternate: Shawn W. Thompson

M 10/18/2011CMI-AAA

Thomas P. Hammerberg

PrincipalAutomatic Fire Alarm Association, Inc.141 Sawyer LaneJasper, GA 30143Alternate: Daniel P. Finnegan

M 10/18/2011

CMI-AAA

Eli P. Howard, III

PrincipalSheet Metal & Air Conditioning Contractors Natl. Assn.4201 Lafayette Center DriveChantilly, VA 20151-1219

IM 10/18/2011

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Address List No PhoneCommissioning and Integrated Testing CMI-AAA

Jacqueline Wilmot08/04/2016

CMI-AAA

John L. Hulett

PrincipalWestern States Fire Protection Company7020 South Tucson WayCentennial, CO 80112-6791National Fire Sprinkler AssociationContractorAlternate: Jack W. Thacker

M 10/18/2011CMI-AAA

Robert J. James

PrincipalUL LLC750 Anthony TrailNorthbrook, IL 60062Alternate: Lawrence J. Shudak

RT 10/23/2013

CMI-AAA

John E. Kampmeyer, Sr.

PrincipalJohn E. Kampmeyer, P.E.269 Butler RoadSpringfield, PA 19064

SE 10/18/2011CMI-AAA

William E. Koffel

PrincipalKoffel Associates, Inc.8815 Centre Park Drive, Suite 200Columbia, MD 21045-2107Alternate: Mark H. Buschman

SE 10/18/2011

CMI-AAA

Russell B. Leavitt

PrincipalTelgian Corporation10230 S. 50th PlacePhoenix, AZ 85044The Home DepotAlternate: Thomas J. Parrish

U 10/18/2011CMI-AAA

David J. LeBlanc

PrincipalJENSEN HUGHES1661 Worcester Road, Suite 501Framingham, MA 01701JENSEN HUGHESAlternate: Bruce G. Campbell

SE 10/29/2012

CMI-AAA

Norbert W. Makowka

PrincipalNational Association of Fire Equipment Distributors180 North Wabash Avenue, Suite 401Chicago, IL 60601-3603

IM 10/18/2011CMI-AAA

Joe W. Noble

PrincipalNoble Consulting Services, LLC6345 South Jones Blvd., #100Las Vegas, NV 89130International Fire Marshals Association

E 10/18/2011

CMI-AAA

Warren E. Olsen

PrincipalFire Safety Consultants, Inc.2420 Alft Lane, Suite 100Elgin, IL 60124Illinois Fire Inspectors AssociationAlternate: Bradford T. Cronin

E 10/18/2011CMI-AAA

Pascal Pfeiffer

PrincipalAXA Matrix Risk Consultants52 Rue d’AmsterdamParis, F-75009 FranceEuropean Fire Sprinkler NetworkAlternate: Keith A. Willoughby

I 10/18/2011

CMI-AAA

Christian Pierson

PrincipalUS Department of State3514 Maureen LaneBowie, MD 20715

U 08/17/2015CMI-AAA

Rodger Reiswig

PrincipalTyco/SimplexGrinnell3640 Haddington CourtApopka, FL 32712-5690Alternate: Terry L. Victor

M 10/18/2011

2

Address List No PhoneCommissioning and Integrated Testing CMI-AAA

Jacqueline Wilmot08/04/2016

CMI-AAA

Richard Jay Roberts

PrincipalHoneywell Fire Safety624 Hammer LaneNorth Aurora, IL 60542-9155National Electrical Manufacturers AssociationAlternate: Chad Kennedy

M 10/18/2011CMI-AAA

Robert P. Schifiliti

PrincipalR. P. Schifiliti Associates, Inc.PO Box 297Reading, MA 01867-0497

SE 10/18/2011

CMI-AAA

Kenneth R. Schneider

PrincipalUA - ITFTraining Specialist3723 S. BroadwaySt. Louis, MO 63118United Assn. of Journeymen & Apprentices of thePlumbing & Pipe Fitting IndustryAlternate: Coy Kevin Hill

L 10/18/2011CMI-AAA

Michael J. Spaziani

PrincipalFM Global1151 Boston-Providence TurnpikePO Box 9102Norwood, MA 02062--9102Alternate: Robert Kasiski

I 12/08/2015

CMI-AAA

Robert J. Tabet

PrincipalUS Department of the NavyNaval Facilities Engineering Command, Atlantic6506 Hampton Boulevard, Code CIFPENorfolk, VA 23508-1278

E 10/18/2011CMI-AAA

Frank L. Van Overmeiren

PrincipalFire Protection & Code Consultants, LLc.1520 Main StreetIndianapolis, IN 46224Alternate: Jeffrey A. Scott

SE 10/18/2011

CMI-AAA

Peter J. Willse

PrincipalXL Global Asset Protection Services100 Constitution Plaza, 12th FloorHartford, CT 06103Alternate: Brandon W. Frakes

I 10/18/2011CMI-AAA

Mark H. Buschman

AlternateKoffel Associates, Inc.8815 Centre Park Drive, Suite 200Columbia, MD 21045-2107Principal: William E. Koffel

SE 10/18/2011

CMI-AAA

Bruce G. Campbell

AlternateJENSEN HUGHES112 Rancho Bueno DriveGeorgetown, TX 78628-9523JENSEN HUGHESPrincipal: David J. LeBlanc

SE 10/18/2011CMI-AAA

Bradford T. Cronin

AlternateNewport Fire Department21 West Marlborough StreetNewport, RI 02840-2527Illinois Fire Inspectors AssociationPrincipal: Warren E. Olsen

E 10/18/2011

CMI-AAA

Daniel P. Finnegan

AlternateSiemens Industry, Inc.Building Technologies DivisionFire & Security2953 Exeter CourtWest Dundee, IL 60118-1724Automatic Fire Alarm Association, Inc.Principal: Thomas P. Hammerberg

M 10/18/2011CMI-AAA

Brandon W. Frakes

AlternateGlobal Asset Protection Services196 Shady Grove LaneAdvance, NC 27006Principal: Peter J. Willse

I 10/23/2013

3

Address List No PhoneCommissioning and Integrated Testing CMI-AAA

Jacqueline Wilmot08/04/2016

CMI-AAA

James L. Graffam

AlternateBard, Rao + Athanas Consulting Engineers, LLC10 Guest Street4th FloorBoston, MA 02135Principal: Lawrence W. Forshner

SE 08/09/2012CMI-AAA

Coy Kevin Hill

AlternateSprinkler Fitters LU 704 JATC32500 West Eight Mile RoadFarmington, MI 48336United Assn. of Journeymen & Apprentices of thePlumbing & Pipe Fitting IndustryPrincipal: Kenneth R. Schneider

L 10/18/2011

CMI-AAA

Jeremy W. John

AlternateFisher Engineering, Inc.10475 Medlock Bridge Road, Suite 520Johns Creek, GA 30097Principal: Douglas W. Fisher

SE 7/29/2013CMI-AAA

Robert Kasiski

AlternateFM Global1151 Boston Providence TurnpikePO Box 9102Norwood, MA 02062-9102FM GlobalPrincipal: Michael J. Spaziani

I 10/18/2011

CMI-AAA

Chad Kennedy

AlternateSchneider Electric8821 Garners Ferry RoadHopkins, SC 29061-8626National Electrical Manufacturers AssociationPrincipal: Richard Jay Roberts

M 04/05/2016CMI-AAA

David O. Lowrey

AlternateCity of Boulder Fire Rescue3065 Center Green DriveBoulder, CO 80301Principal: Art Black

E 10/18/2011

CMI-AAA

Thomas F. Norton

AlternateNorel Service Company, Inc.37 Buckmaster DriveConcord, MA 01742-2809Principal: Shane M. Clary

IM 10/18/2011CMI-AAA

Thomas J. Parrish

AlternateTelgian Corporation15771 W-M36Pinckney, MI 48169-9717The Home DepotPrincipal: Russell B. Leavitt

U 10/18/2011

CMI-AAA

Milosh T. Puchovsky

AlternateWorcester Polytechnic InstituteDepartment of Fire Protection Engineering100 Institute RoadWorcester, MA 01609Principal: Cecil Bilbo, Jr.

SE 10/18/2011CMI-AAA

Alan H. Sactor

AlternateUniversity of MarylandDepartment of Environmental Safety3115 Chesapeake Building, #338College Park, MD 20742Association of Higher Education Facilities OfficersPrincipal: Paul F. Dunphy, Jr.

U 10/18/2011

CMI-AAA

Jeffrey A. Scott

AlternateFP&C Consultants, Inc.3770 BroadwayKansas City, MO 64111Principal: Frank L. Van Overmeiren

SE 10/29/2012CMI-AAA

Lawrence J. Shudak

AlternateUL LLC333 Pfingsten RoadNorthbrook, IL 60062-2096Principal: Robert J. James

RT 10/23/2013

4

Address List No PhoneCommissioning and Integrated Testing CMI-AAA

Jacqueline Wilmot08/04/2016

CMI-AAA

Jack W. Thacker

AlternateAllan Automatic Sprinkler of Southern California3233 Enterprise StreetBrea, CA 92821-6239National Fire Sprinkler AssociationContractorPrincipal: John L. Hulett

M 10/18/2011CMI-AAA

Shawn W. Thompson

AlternateFike Corporation704 SW 10th StreetBlue Springs, MO 64015-4263Principal: Kimberly A. Gruner

M 10/18/2011

CMI-AAA

Terry L. Victor

AlternateTyco/SimplexGrinnell705 Digital Drive, Suite NLinthicum, MD 21090-2267Principal: Rodger Reiswig

M 10/18/2011CMI-AAA

Keith A. Willoughby

AlternateAXA Matrix Risk Consultants3130 South Tech BoulevardMiamisburg, OH 45342European Fire Sprinkler NetworkPrincipal: Pascal Pfeiffer

I 07/29/2013

CMI-AAA

Bill Fremis

Nonvoting MemberDefence Construction Canada161 Laurier Avenue West, Suite 300Ottawa, ON K1P 5J2 Canada

U 03/05/2012CMI-AAA

Jacqueline Wilmot

Staff LiaisonNational Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471

06/17/2014

5

NFPA 3 & 4

Technical Committee on Commissioning and

Integrated Testing of Fire and Life Safety Systems

(CMI-AAA)

NFPA 3 & 4 A2017 First Revision Meeting November 17-18, 2015

Minutes of Meeting 1. Chair Pilette called the meeting to order at 8:12 AM, Tuesday November 17, 2015 at Embassy

Suites Charlotte, NC. (Agenda Item 1)

2. Chair introduced himself and self-introductions were made. (Agenda item 2 and 3) Attendance

included:

Principal Members Principal members (cont’d) Alternate members (cont’d)

Maurice Pilette, Chair Joe Noble Thomas Parrish (telephone)

Art Black Pascal Pfeiffer Richard Roberts (voting alt)

Bruce Clarke Christian Pierson Larry Shudak (tele. day 1)

Michael DeVore Robert Schifiliti Terry Victor (voting)

Paul Dunphy Kenneth Schneider Keith Willoughby

Douglas Fisher (Day 1) Robert Tabet

Lawrence Forshner Frank Van Overmeiren Jacqueline Wilmot, NFPA

Kimberly Gruner Warren Olsen (Day 2) Staff Liaison

Thomas Hammerberg Alternate Members

John Hulett Mark Buschman (voting) Guests

Robert James Bruce Campbell Keith Woller, UA Local 669

Robert Kasiski (tele. Day 1) Bradford Cronin (voting day1) Sprinklerfitters

John Kampmeyer (tele day 2) Daniel Finnegan (Day 1) Dan Decker, Safety Systems

Russell Leavitt Brandon Frakes and FSSA

David LeBlanc James Graffam Barry Chase, NFPA Norbert Makowka

3. Chair recognized Kim Gruner for her work on the committee as Secretary. He also noted that she will

continue this responsibility for the committee.

4. Chair asked committee to identify any action being taken to request Public Input (PI) to codes for

reference of NFPA 3 and 4. (Agenda item 7)

• Thomas Hammerberg noted that work has begun on NFPA 101 chapter 9 with a PI using NFPA

4, NFPA staff got with chair of occupancy chapters to reflect back to 9. Also Annex material in

that document for NFPA 3 reference. Same in NFPA 1. Working on IFC for reference to NFPA

4. Also accepted as a PI in NFPA 909.

• Daniel Finnegan noted PI has been submitted to ICC. 730/731 first draft also. He further noted

that these have not been easy sells. There were questions about cost and complexity. All have

task groups formed to work on questions that have arisen. At least got in the First Revision and

started discussion.

• Chair Maurice Pilette noted NFPA 502 on tunnels has passed reference in the body of the

document to NFPA 4 and annex ref to NFPA 3. This will likely be the first document referencing

NFPA 4 released.

5. Other industry comments were also discussed: (Agenda item 4)

• James Graffam noted that industry does not grasp what NFPA 3 and 4 are and are not aware of

the documents.

• Art Black noted that he co-teaches for NFSA on NFPA 72 and 25 coordination. He has inserted

a slide or two on NFPA 4. He receives similar reaction in the training sessions regarding

unawareness of the documents.

• Paul Dunphy completed a couple of webinars to college and universities. Pay per view webinars

on Campus Fire Safety. Colleges and universities were interested. Jacqueline and Paul did an

NFPA webinar. Word has been getting out. Engineering firms involved and using it.

• Bruce Clarke noted that has been pushing the documents. He has been recommending to use

as a corporate guide and has been well received.

6. Chair requested a count of voting members: 24 voting members counted + chair (25).

7. More discussion on other industry comments:

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• Frank VanOvermeiren noted that several agencies automatically adopt standards – particularly

governmental agencies.

• Bob Tabet confirmed that the government embraces standards, but noted they still need to be

referenced in contract documents and he intends to support in doing so.

• Bruce Clarke noted NFPA 80 has a PI with a shall statement for using NFPA 4.

• Russell Leavitt noted that he has been involved in debate on NFPA 909. That committee had

concern for small facility requirements. 9 out of 10 of these facilities are small installations. He

commented to make sure of how this is presented and that we address the difference between

the very small and large installations. The documents need clear and concise language if that is

our intent or not.

• Doug Fisher commented that it is not intended for NFPA 3 and 4 to document ‘where’ it is used,

but addresses ‘how’.

8. Chair asked Pascal Pfeiffer about the status of his previous residence/home/family regarding the

recent tragedy in Paris. No Comment – family and closest relatives are unharmed.

9. Chair requested approval of meeting minutes. Motion so made and seconded. Motion carried.

(Agenda item 5).

10. Staff Liaison, Jacqueline Wilmot, provided a presentation including several topics – Standard meeting

communication, NFPA’s new Revision Process and A2017 Revision Cycle, Committee distribution

percentage by group, sales results of NFPA 3 and 4 document purchase (by industry and job function),

reminder that there are some committee members without alternates and these can still be assigned,

Fire Protection Research Foundation, NFPA advisory obtain very few questions on NFPA 3 or 4,

thanked committee for their participation. (Agenda item 6)

11. Art Black requested chair that we reserve a week block for 2nd draft meeting. Chair responded that we

would discuss the schedule on day 2 as noted in the agenda.

12. Chair, Maurice Pilette, identified the public inputs created by Doug Fisher. The agenda package

included each chapter as read with proposal. He called attention to the 2 chapter 5 PI’s. The public

input was not submitted in legislative text format. Staff liason, Jacqueline Wilmot, nicely provided the

information in a legislative text format (e-mailed separately to committee prior to the meeting).

Committee thanked her for this added info. Chair noted that Day 2 of the agenda will be to address

NFPA 4’s 16 proposals by Michael DeVore and Paul Dunphy.

13. Chair noted that First, committee needs to determine if we move forward as a standard for NFPA 3.

Chair asked Doug Fisher speak to NFPA 3 public input/task group reports.

14. Doug Fisher noted that the task group on last revision cycle met to change to ‘standard’. They broke

into smaller groups for chapters. Simplistically changing ‘should’ to ‘shall’ did not work fully. Example

qualifications and the resultant unenforceable language. To the best of Doug’s knowledge the task

groups did not change the technical aspects, yet changed to enforceable language. Annex A, B, C

and D resulted. Doug noted that he pulled together info from each task group with at least 3 people

each. He incorporated concerns from those who were nervous about moving forward as standard.

Doug stressed the need for the document to be adopted. Regarding the 2 chapter 5’s – task group

had a report and then Michael DeVore had his also. Both were submitted; 2 separate PI’s. (Agenda

item 8)

15. Michael DeVore spoke to his version of Public Input for Chapter 5, Public Input #12. He noted that if

there was not enforceable language it was moved to an Annex or deleted since did not make sense

as a ‘shall’. Mike provided staff an Excel spreadsheet (day 2 afternoon) on where each section moved.

16. Robert Schifiliti asked chair if he was to begin discussion of PI 12. Staff liason Wilmot displayed PI

#12 for the committee to review.

17. Chair Pilette asked for motion for NFPA 3 go forward as a standard or not. Motion made and seconded

to request FR to make NFPA 3 a Standard and revise the title from Recommended Practice to

Standard. Discussion was held from various committee members mostly speaking in favor of the

motion. There were also a few concerns communicated about documenting a clear scope, owner

requirement, caution on where it should be used, need minimum wording/not maximum, building code

will mandate where it applies. After several minutes of this discussion, Russell Leavitt motioned call

to question and it was seconded. Motion carried.

18. Voted results for NFPA 3 going forward as a Standard included 22 ‘for’, 1 ‘against’, and 2 ‘abstain’.

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19. Staff liason Jacqueline Wilmot displayed legislative text version of chapter 1. She explained how the

committee will be balloted on these PI’s. There will be a separate ballot for moving NFPA 3 forward

as a Standard. Each section in chapter 1 will also be balloted. (Agenda Item 9)

20. Jacqueline Wilmot made sure that those on the telephone could view the staff screens.

21. Committee proceeded in working through the PI on NFPA 3 in Chapter order with associated Annex.

22. Terry Victor motioned to remove acronyms from the document. Seconded. Discussion. This vote

Failed. Art Black motioned to put both term with acronym with definition and spell out in the document.

Motion and seconded. Vote passed.

23. Day 1 completed NFPA 3 PI’s except chapter 6 and annexes.

24. Moved to Adjourn 5:30pm with intent for committee to begin at 7:30 am on Day 2. Seconded. Chair

adjorned day 1 of the meeting.

25. Day 2. Chair Pilette called meeting to order 7:35AM.

26. Warren Olsen was not able to attend on day 1, but was present day 2 so chair introduced him.

27. Chair Pilette requested day 2 count of Voting members: 22 voting members counted (including phone)

+ chair

28. Committee began with NFPA 3 Chapter 6 PI and new proposed Annexes.

29. Staff liason Jacqueline Wilmot noted that the committee will be balloted on Rec. Practice to Std. Staff

noted Chapter 1 was started individually but will be pulled together as a chapter. Recommended ballot

for each chapter. Chapter 3 will be individual ballots. Chapter 4-6 ballot by full chapter.

30. Chair requested another straw poll vote regarding NFPA 3 as a Standard. All hands raised for moving

forward as standard. No votes against doing so.

31. Completed NFPA 3 Annex C First Revision.

32. Committee proceeded through NFPA 4 PI’s.

33. Jaqueline Wilmot received an Input that was submitted late. Not a formal PI yet presented per chair

request. This input identified passive Fire protection new section on 5.2.13. Resolved with

substantiation that it belongs best in Commissioning, due to inspection, not testing. Describes

inspections of individual systems, not an integrated system. Staff, Jaqueline Wilmot will e-mail a reply

back to the submitter.

34. Terry Victor presented several motions for new NFPA 4 First Revisions regarding the following items:

• Replace acronyms in the main body with full text and keep with the definition only. Motion carried.

• New definition Active Fire Protection System with its annex. Pull existing definition from NFPA

3. Motion carried.

• 4.3.3. change test team to the agent. Discussion that the agent may not be required, collective.

Motion failed. Motion to create FR to add annex material to 4.3.3 explaining that the knowledge

is collective, not full knowledge of each team member. Motion carried.

• 4.5.7. with annex to address that the plan include guidance for retest requirements in the event of

test failure. Motion carried.

• 5.3.1. for if a failure occurs, it can be allowed to be retested without a complete integrated test.

Frank VanOvermeiren suggested moving to 5.2.8.1. Motion carried.

35. Terry Victor requested NFPA 3 re-open. He requested FR for addition of a new section on Turnover

Phase (Substantial System Completion). Section 5.5 and all annex material to NFPA 3. Requested

Insert between Construction and Occupancy Phases. This time usually is a temporary occupancy

period. Voting was 10 ‘for’ and 7 ‘against’, motion carried. Guidance is needed for owner turnover

allowed prior to commissioning. There is some opposition that turnover is a part of the construction

phase. This single item was requested to be balloted separate from section 5.

36. Michael DeVore forwarded Jaqueline Wilmot the suggested wording for Chapter 5 substantiation.

Committee agreed with this substantiation.

37. Frank VanOvermeiren would like to put forth a concept. Frank discussed need to identify small –

medium - large system, also talked about quantity of interconnections. Need a task group to work on

this topic. He noted that at the highest level installation, nobody would contest that Commissioning

and Integrated Testing is required. Owner needs to determine or as Bob Schifiliti’s recommended

phrase as ’governing laws and standards’ and for a high rise building. The next two general categories:

any assembly over 500,000 sq. ft., any industrial or storage facility over 1 million sq. feet. Need to

determine how to get that information out to get a general consensus on what to recommend to codes.

Terry Victor noted that Dan Finnegan is facing that with IFC now. Paul Dunphy likes concept, possibly

add research facilities. Frank has tried to state as occupancy-wise, to put in terms of the code officials.

Discussed possible annex like NFPA 72 has for adoption document. Russell Leavitt made motion to

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create CI using Frank Overmeiren’s proposals. The committee agreed to some start to wording.

Additional work may be needed on this wording for the 2nd draft meeting. Frank VanOvermeiren and

Russell Leavitt will work on task group. This similar text will be used for both NFPA 3 and 4. Motion

carried for both NFPA 3 and 4 CI’s. (Agenda item 10)

38. Chair Pilette identified that he will assign Task Groups for each chapter and Qualifications (7 task

groups) in preparation for the 2nd draft meeting and will be communicating this via e-mail.

39. Terry Victor requested to have Frank VanOvermeiren’s input available for next week for the conference

call on the IFC – Frank will submit a quick draft to Terry and they will work on it.

40. Chair requested discussion on Second revision meeting dates, May 16 - Oct 31. Committee

determined meeting date for week of August 22 (23-25), 2016. Committee liked idea of use of the

NFPA new conference center in Quincy. (Agenda item 11)

41. Kimberly Gruner requested availability of a preliminary report, particularly NFPA 3. Jacqueline Wilmot

responded, Elena Carroll will send a preliminary report as soon as possible. Editors will then start

their job to next phase and then it will be in Terra View for the 2nd draft meeting.

42. Chair Pilette thanked committee and staff liason, Jacqueline Wilmot.

43. Motion to adjourn at 2:18PM, seconded. Meeting adjourned. (Agenda item 12)

2017 ANNUAL REVISION CYCLE *Public Input Dates may vary according to standards and schedules for Revision Cycles may change.  Please check the NFPA Website for the most up‐to‐date information on Public Input Closing Dates and schedules at 

www.nfpa.org/document # (i.e. www.nfpa.org/101) and click on the Next Edition tab. 

Process Stage 

 

Process Step  

Dates for TC 

Dates forTC with 

CC   Public Input Closing Date*  7/6/15  7/6/15 

  Final Date for TC First Draft Meeting  12/14/15  9/14/15 

Public Input  Posting of First Draft and TC Ballot  2/1/16  10/26/15 

Stage  Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot  2/22/16  11/16/15 

`(First Draft)  Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot ‐ recirc  2/29/16  11/23/15 

  Posting of First Draft for CC Meeting    11/30/15 

  Final date for CC First Draft Meeting    1/11/16 

  Posting of First Draft and CC Ballot    2/1/16 

  Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot    2/22/16 

  Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot ‐ recirc    2/29/16 

  Post First Draft Report for Public Comment  3/7/16  3/7/16 

 

  Public Comment closing date   5/16/16  5/16/16 

  Final Date to Publish Notice of Consent Standards (Standards that received no Comments) 

5/30/16  5/30/16 

  Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards (Standards that received no Comments) 

6/13/16  6/13/16 

  Final date for TC Second Draft Meeting  10/31/16  7/25/16 

Comment  Posting of Second Draft and TC Ballot  12/12/16  9/5/16 

Stage    Final date for Receipt of TC Second Draft ballot  1/2/17  9/26/16 

(Second  Final date for receipt of TC Second Draft ballot ‐ recirc  1/9/17  10/3/16 

Draft)  Posting of Second Draft for CC Meeting    10/10/16 

  Final date for CC Second Draft Meeting    11/21/16 

  Posting of Second Draft for CC Ballot    12/12/16 

  Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot    1/2/17 

  Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot ‐ recirc    1/9/17 

  Post Second Draft Report for NITMAM Review  1/16/17  1/16/17 

 

Tech Session  Notice of Intent to Make a Motion (NITMAM) Closing Date  2/20/17  2/20/17 

Preparation  Posting of Certified Amending Motions (CAMs) and Consent Standards 

4/17/17  4/17/17 

(& Issuance)  Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards   5/2/17  5/2/17 

  SC Issuance Date for Consent Standards   5/12/17  5/12/17 

 

Tech Session  Association Meeting for Standards with CAMs  6/4‐7/2017  6/4‐7/2017 

 

Appeals and  Appeal Closing Date for Standards with CAMs  6/27/17  6/27/17 

Issuance  SC  Issuance Date for Standards with CAMs  8/10/17  8/10/17 

 

Approved:  October 30, 2012                                                       Revised________________________ 

Public Comment No. 31-NFPA 3-2016 [ Global Input ]

In every location within the document that the phrase "Fire Protecion and Life SafetyCommissioning" is used insert the word "Systems" between "Safety" and "Commissioning" so itreads "Fire Protection and Life Safety Systems Commissioning". In every location within thedocument that the phrase "Fire Protection and Life Safety Commissioning Team" is used insert theword "Systems" between "Safety" and "Commissioning" so it reads "Fire Protection and Life SafetySystems Commissioning Team".

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The addition of the word "systems" clarifies the intent of the standard that the systems that provide fire protection and life safety are being commissioned.

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First Revision No. 17-NFPA 3-2015 [New Section after 3.3.3.6]

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Public Comment No. 33-NFPA 3-2016 [ Global Input ]

Revise the document to utlize acryonyms as specified in the Manual of Style (revert to the versionprior to FR-8).

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

FR-8 changed the document so that all acronyms were removed. Acronyms should be used as they are used in the commissioning industry (such as BOD, OPR, etc) and the use of those acronyms in this document will assist the fire protection community with understanding and use of these terms.

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Public Comment No. 34-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. 1.3.2 ]

1.3.2*

Where the project specifications or governing laws, codes, regulations, or standards require total buildingcommissioning, this standard shall apply as part of that process.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

As currently written, this section implies that anytime the project specifications require any system commissioning (such as mechanical only), NFPA 3 would apply. The intent of this section was to relate to when commissioning is provided for all building systems. This is called Total Building Commissioning.

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Public Comment No. 26-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. 3.3.1 ]

3.3.1 Basis of Design (BOD).

A document that describes the concepts and decisions used to meet the owner’s project requirements andgoverning standards governing laws , laws, and regulations regulations, codes, and standards .

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The word "codes" was mistakenly deleted in the first draft. This revision makes the phrase consistent with its use elsewhere in the standard.

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Public Comment No. 21-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. 3.3.3.4 ]

3.3.3.4 Commissioning Record.

The complete set of commissioning documents for the project that are turned over to the owner at the endof the construction phase .

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The last phrase in the definition is actually a requirement saying turn the documents over to the owner at the end of Phase 3. A requirement is not permitted in a definition. The requirements for documentation are in Chapter 4.

Related Public Comments for This Document

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Public Comment No. 22-NFPA 3-2016 [Section No. 4.4]

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First Revision No. 15-NFPA 3-2015 [Section No. 3.3.3.4]

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Public Comment No. 28-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. 3.3.3.6 ]

3.3.3.6 * Fire Protection and Life Safety Commissioning (FCx).

A systematic process that provides documented confirmation that fire protection and life safety systemsfunction according to the design criteria as set forth in the project documents and satisfies the owner’soperational needs, including compliance with any applicable governing laws, regulations, codes, andstandards requiring fire protection and life safety systems .

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Inserted the standard phrase "governing laws, regulations, codes, and standards" and deleted the redundant phrase at the end of the sentence.

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First Revision No. 16-NFPA 3-2015 [Section No. 3.3.3.5]

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Public Comment No. 35-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. 3.3.7.1 ]

3.3.7.1 Critical Operations Power Systems (COPS).

Power systems for facilities or parts of facilities that require continuous operation for reasons of publicsafety, emergency management, national security, or business continuity. [ 70: 708.2]

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Term is not used in the proposed document and, therefore, should be deleted.

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Public Comment No. 36-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. 3.3.7.2 ]

3.3.7.2 Emergency Power Supply (EPS).

The source of electric power of the required capacity and quality for an emergency power supply system.[ 110, 2016]

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Term is not used in the document and, therefore, should be deleted.

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Public Comment No. 37-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. 3.3.7.4 ]

3.3.7.4 Emergency Systems.

Those systems legally required and classed as emergency by municipal, state, federal, or other codes, orby any governmental agency having jurisdiction. These systems are intended to automatically supplyillumination, power, or both, to designated areas and equipment in the event of failure of the normal supplyor in the event of accident to elements of a system intended to supply, distribute, and control power andillumination essential for safety to human life. [ 70, 2017]

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Term is not used in the document and, therefore, should be deleted.

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First Revision No. 25-NFPA 3-2015 [Section No. 3.3.7.4]

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Public Comment No. 9-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. 3.3.15.1 ]

3.3.15.1 Planning Phase (Phase 1).

The phase time period when the fire protection and life safety commissioning team is formed and initialproject concepts and the owner’s project requirements are the commissioning plan is developed.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Eliminated the use of the defined term in the definition by changing "phase" to "time period." Also eliminated the OPR from the definition because in Chapter 5, it says the OPR is the basis for the commissioning while the activities are forming the team and developing the commissioning plan.

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First Revision No. 31-NFPA 3-2015 [Section No. 3.3.15]

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Public Comment No. 10-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. 3.3.15.2 ]

3.3.15.2 Design Phase (Phase 2).

The phase the time period when the commissioning team provides input into design of fire protectionsystems, incorporates the basis of design is produced; drawings and calculations, including those fordesign and fabrication, are produced; and testing procedures are developed into the commissioning plan,and develops the commissioning test plan .

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Eliminated the use of the defined term in the definition by changing "phase" to "time period." The basis of design is developed by the registered design professional and is not a function of the commissioning team. So the definition is re-written to reflect the activities of the commissioning team during the design phase.

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Public Comment No. 11-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. 3.3.15.3 ]

3.3.15.3 Construction Phase (Phase 3).

The phase the time period when the fire protection and life safety systems, with their components, areprocured, fabricated, installed, tested, and accepted.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Eliminated the use of the defined term in the definition by changing "phase" to "time period." Also edited for grammar by revising the subjunctive phrase to eliminate the extra commas.

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Public Comment No. 12-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. 3.3.15.4 ]

3.3.15.4 Turnover Phase (Phase 4).

The phase the systems are operational, the owner/responsible party is trained on the proper use andoperation of systems, and all related documents are officially assigned to the owner/responsible party.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

There is no turnover phase in the Document 0 for building commissioning. NFPA 3 needs to mesh with the total building commissioning. While the activities stated in the definition do occur, they are part of the construction phase. Also, I could not find the term "turnover phase" used in NFPA 3. Delete the definition as it is not needed.

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Public Comment No. 38-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. 3.3.15.4 ]

3.3.15.4 Turnover Phase (Phase 4).

The phase the systems are operational, the owner/responsible party is trained on the proper use andoperation of systems, and all related documents are officially assigned to the owner/responsible party.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Term is not used in the document and, therefore, should be deleted. In addition, the term is not commonly used in the industry. The phrase "responsible party" is also not defined in the document.

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Public Comment No. 13-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. 3.3.15.5 ]

3.3.15.5 Occupancy Phase (Phase 5 4 ).

The phase the time period when the fire protection and life safety systems are used on a daily basis andperiodic inspection, testing, and maintenance are scheduled and performed.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Eliminated the use of the defined term in the definition by changing "phase" to "time period."

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Public Comment No. 27-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. 3.3.23.1 ]

3.3.23.1 * Acceptance Test.

Test performed on a completedinstallation to an individual system to confirm compliance with applicablerequirements governing laws, regulations, codes, and standards .

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The acceptance test is a test of an individual system that is usually performed prior to or as part of an integrated systems test. Hence it may or may not be directly correlated with the completeness of the system (see the Annex that explains exactly this point). Also, the committee in the First Draft meeting expressed a desire to change applicable requirements to the "governing laws, regulations, codes, and standards" phrase.

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Public Comment No. 29-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. 3.3.23.3 ]

3.3.23.3 * Pre-functionalTest.

Test performed prior to acceptance testing to confirm compliance with applicable requirements inpreparation for acceptance test .

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The definition is revised to show that it is preparatory for the acceptance test. No further clarification is needed because the rest is in the definition of acceptance test or in the Annex of this section.

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Public Comment No. 22-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. 4.4 ]

4.4 Documentation and Forms Commissioning Records .

4.4.1 Documentation.

4.4.1.1

Approved commissioning documents and forms shall be used to record commissioning and testing of fireprotection and life safety systems. (See Annex E.)

4.4. 1. 2 * Required Documents.

Documentation required by approved installation standards referenced in the basis of design shall beprovided.

4.4. 1. 3 * Forms and Checklists.

Forms and checklists required by approved installation standards referenced in the basis of design shall beutilized.

4.4.

4 *

1.4

Commissioning documents shall be compiled into the commissioning report.

4.4.2 Document Retention.

Commissioning documents shall be 4.4.2.1

The commissioning report shall be given to the owner.

4.4.2.2*

The commissioning report shall be retained by the owner for the life of each specific fire protection and lifesafety system.

4.4. 5 2.3

Where required, documents used to record commissioning of fire protection and life safety systems shall beprovided to the authority having jurisdiction and other stakeholders.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The requirement from the definition of commissioning record is added to the requirements under documentation. Edited section 4.4 for compliance with Manual of Style; all sections at the same level did not have titles. Change "commissioning documents" to "commissioning record" to match the definitions of the terms. Since the commissioning documents are required to be "approved" in 4.4.1.1, it does not need to be restated in every section below. Also, if the document is referenced in the basis of design, then it can be assumed that the registered design professional "approved" the document, form, or checklist.

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Public Comment No. 21-NFPA 3-2016 [Section No. 3.3.3.4] Revised definition of commissioning record

Public Comment No. 23-NFPA 3-2016 [Section No. A.4.4.2]

Public Comment No. 24-NFPA 3-2016 [Section No. A.4.4.3]

Public Comment No. 25-NFPA 3-2016 [Section No. A.4.4.4]

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Public Comment No. 14-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. 5.3.1 ]

5.3.1 * Basis of Design.

The basis of design shallinclude the following:

(1)

(2)

(3)

(4)

(5)

(6) Testing and start-up requirements

5.3.1.1

The Basis of Design shall be the responsibility of the registered design professional.

5.3.1.2

The commissioning team shall provide input to the registered design professional for design of fireprotection and life safety systems.

[Note to editors: The asterik at 5.3 should be deleted as there is no A.5.3.]

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The basis of design is not written by the commissioning team. The BOD is reviewed and commented on by the commissioning team. This change attempts to correct that discrepancy and most of the existing material is moved to the annex A.

Related Public Comments for This Document

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Public Comment No. 15-NFPA 3-2016 [Section No. A.5.3.1(1)]

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* A description of the building or structure

* A description of fire protection or life safety systems and components

* Performance objectives and criteria

* List of applicable codes and standards

* Alternative means and methods incorporated into the original design

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Public Comment No. 32-NFPA 3-2016 [ New Section after 5.4.4.2 ]

TITLE OF NEW CONTENT

5.5* Turnover Phase.

A.5.5 Some fire protection and life safety systems are completed during the construction phase, tested inaccordance with the installation standard, and turned over to the owner or owner’s representative forsubstantial use. These systems may not yet have been integrated tested nor commissioned, but are neededor desired to be put in service to protect portions of the building during construction, before final integratedtesting and commissioning is completed.

5.4.1 Commissioning Team.

5.4.2.1 The fire protection and life safety commissioning team shall do the following for the system(s)being turned over:

(1) Confirm the validity of the commissioning schedule, and update as needed with the constructionschedule

(2) Review submittals, including but not limited to plans and product data sheets, for conformance to theBOD

(3) Verify materials, construction, and installation conform to the BOD

(4) Document issues and changes to the project and update the commissioning plan

(5) Review integrated systems design for compatibility or communication problems

(6) Observe installation and test procedures or verify performance of the responsible party

(7) Document installation standard testing activities

(8) Verify owner training took place

5.4.2.2 Passive fire protection system(s) being turned over shall be inspected or tested for properinstallation including:

(1) Conformance to approved drawings and specifications

(2) Installation in accordance with manufacturers’ published instructions

(3) Compliance with applicable codes and standards

(4)* Correct performance of operable parts

5.4.2.3 Active fire protection system(s) being turned over shall be inspected and tested for properinstallation and operation in accordance with the installation standard

5.4.3 Owner Training

5.4.3.1* Owner training for each system being turned over shall include the installed system,components, and devices.

A.5.4.3.1 A quality training session for system operation and maintenance should include the following

components:

(1) Practical examples and hands?on operation of the system

(2) A course agenda

(3) The expected system performance

(4) Problems or modifications encountered during construction

(5) Routine testing and maintenance requirements

(6) Operation and maintenance manuals

5.4.3.2* System(s) training shall be scheduled with or near to system(s) acceptance testing.

A.5.4.3.2 Secondary systems training should be held after integrated systems testing has been

completed to allow follow?up questions and the opportunity to ask questions about situations and

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problems that occurred during testing.

5.4.3.3* Training session scope and attendees shall be documented.

A.5.5.4.3 Sign?in sheets are useful for the contractor and fire protection and life safety commissioning

team to demonstrate that training was conducted. Training sessions can be video? recorded to allow for

future reference.

5.4.4 Documentation.

5.4.4.1* The commissioning team shall verify the system documents are ready to submit to the owner.

A.5.4.4.1 System documents should include as applicable:

(1) Deficiency log showing the resolution of each item

(2) Operations and maintenance manuals

(3) Test reports

(4) Record drawings

(5) Warranties

(6) Spare parts list and supplier listings

5.4.4.2 The system documents shall be submitted to the owner.

5.4.5 Operation and Maintenance Manual (O&M).

5.4.5.1* The O&M for the system(s) being turned over shall reference the specification section.

5.4.5.2 The O&M shall contain:

(1) Product data sheets

(2) Equipment installation instructions

(3) Equipment operating manuals

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

This language was submitted during the first draft meeting and accepted, but was left out of the first draft report. The definition of a Turnover Phase did get picked up in the first draft so this additional language in chapter 5 is needed to describe what is to be accomplished during this phase.Many fire protection and life safety systems are installed during some portion of the Construction Phase, and are turned over to the general contractor and/or the owner for substantial use prior to the Occupancy Phase. These systems have been acceptance tested in many cases, and are subject to the inspection, testing, and maintenance requirements of the respective NFPA document or manufacturer’s instructions. For all intents and purposes these systems no longer fall under the Construction Phase, and yet the building may be weeks, months, or more away from the Occupancy Phase.

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Public Comment No. 1-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. A.1.1 ]

A.1.1

It is intended that the implementation of the requirements of this standard vary by the type, number, andcomplexity of systems utilized within a particular building. For example, a hospital or high-rise buildingwould most likely necessitate a strict application of all the requirements of the standard while otherstructures, with simpler fire protection systems, such as a convenience store or small warehouse wouldcertainly mandate a simpler application. Facilities where this document would be used include hospitals,high-rise buildings and other structures having complex fire protection and life safety systems. Aconvenience store or warehouse that only has an automatic fire sprinkler or fire alarm system would not beexpected to do commissioning as outlined in this document.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

This annex section had not been modified since NFPA 4 was written. It no longer made sense with the revisions to the body of the document. Revised the section to give clearer examples of when commissioning might be expected.

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Public Comment No. 2-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. A.1.2 ]

A.1.2

Fire protection and life safety system commissioning is critical to ascertain that such systems are installedand function in accordance with the basis of design and owner's project requirements, which might havebeen developed to meet applicable local regulations, and that testing is documented. It is not the intent ofthis standard to supplant the existing requirements of other codes and standards;however, this standardcan provide the appropriate guidance for a specific system or component where testing is not otherwiseaddressed. Such guidance should be developed by the fire protection and life safety commissioning team.It is not the intent of the standard to create onerous and expensive requirements that deliver little benefit tothe stakeholders. It is intended that the standard is utilized in a way that is appropriate for the complexity ofthe systems and the occupancy and hazards of the building that the systems serve.

Fire protection and life safety systems can and likely will have problems during startup and installation.When a well-thought-out commissioning plan is implemented correctly, it can minimize startup andlong-term problems, reduce operational costs, and minimize future maintenance requirements.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

This section is leftover from before the creation of NFPA 4. It no longer applies and should be deleted from NFPA 3.

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Public Comment No. 3-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. A.1.3 ]

A.1.3

Planning for fire protection and life safety system commissioning for a building or structure involves anintegrated system approach that enables the system designer to analyze all of the components as a totalfire protection and life safety system package. This standard is not intended to be applied unless requiredby applicable codes or standards or the owner’s project requirements Also, there might be need tocommission existing systems where existing systems were not previously commissioned .

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Delete the second sentence because the material is in the body of the document in sections 1.3.1 and 1.3.2. Add the second sentence, which was saved from A.1.3.2, which is proposed to be deleted in another Public Comment No. 4.

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Public Comment No. 4-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. A.1.3.2 ]

A.1.3.2

This standard does not apply except where referenced by other legally adopted governing laws, codes,regulations, or standards. This is not to say that the standard could not be referenced by an owner of abuilding, or other individuals, who might be involved in the design of a new building, or who recognize theneed to commission existing systems where existing systems were not previously commissioned, or whichhave been modified.

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This annex no longer correlates with the body text and is not needed.

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Public Comment No. 5-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. A.1.3.3 ]

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Passive and active fire protection and life safety systems includesthe include the following:

(1) Infrastructure supporting the fire protection and life safety systems within the boundaries of the project.Project infrastructure should include those systems and utilities necessary for the support andoperation of the fire protection and life safety systems of the proposed project, such as the following:

(a) Access roadways for general ingress and egress and those necessary for fire department accessin accordance with local laws, applicable codesand standards

(b) Public utility systems for the provisions of electric power, fuel gas, water, and waste water;communication systems; and any other utility system deemed essential for the support of projectoperations

(c) On-site combined heat and power generation systems, electric power generation plants orsystems, fuel gas storage facilities, water supply and storage facilities, and environmental or wastemanagement systems

(d) Underground fire protection pipe mains and fire hydrants

(2) Fixed fire suppression and control systems, including special hazard systems

(3) Fire pumps

(4) Fire alarm systems

(5) Emergency communications systems.

(6) Smoke control and management systems.

(7) Emergency systems, legallyrequired standbysystems and criticaloperationspowersystems,includingthose powering systems or equipment such as the following:

(8) Smoke control systems

(9) Stair pressurization systems

(10) Smoke-proof enclosure ventilation systems

(11) Electric-

and diesel-

(a) driven fire pumps

(b) Fire service access elevators

(c) Occupant evacuation elevators

(d) Fire suppression system controllers

Emergency power supply system in large area occupancies, health care facilities, or high-risebuildings, supply power to the electrical systems required for life safety, and therefore requirecommissioning.The emergency power supply systems should be evaluated for their functionality toprovide illumination and critical power to serve the needs of those who can physically evacuate abuilding, including the sustaining of life for those who cannot, whether or not there is a fire event in thebuilding.

(12) Explosion prevention and control systems

(13) Fire-resistant and smoke-resistant assemblies,such as floor/ceilings and ceiling/roof decks, doors,windows, barriers, fire dampers, smoke dampers and combination smoke/fire dampers, and wallsprotected by a firestop system or device for through-penetrations and membrane penetrations, andother fire and smoke assemblies.

(14) Firestopping, which includes fire- and smoke-resistant-rated assemblies protected by a firestopsystem or device for through-penetrations and membrane penetrations.

(15) Systems associated with cooking operations.

(16) Elevator systems.

(17) Means of egress systems and components, including the following:

(a) Emergency lighting and exit signs

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(b) Major egress components, such as corridors, stairs, ramps, and so forth

(c) Exit path marking systems

(d) Fire barrier components for horizontal exits

(18) Other systems or installations integrated or connected to a fire or life safety system such as accesscontrol, critical processes, and hazardous operations.

In manufacturing and industrial complexes, commissioning could be required to ascertain anddocument that interconnections with machinery or parts of the process function as planned by theowner’s project requirements and basis of design. This could necessitate or induce partial or fullinterruption of the industrial process. An example would be the automatic shutdown of conveyors in thecase of a sprinkler activation. The automatic shutdown feature is part of the commissioning process.

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A-1-3-3.pdf What parenthesis (7) is supposed to look like without Terra View having an opinion.

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Diesel-driven fire pumps are usually not connected to emergency or standby electrical loads. This action by the committee in the First Draft pointed out that fire pumps were not in the list. So fire pumps and fire service mains are added to the list.

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Public Comment No. 6-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. A.1.4 ]

A.1.4

This section provides guidance for new technologies or alternative materials, devices, methods, orarrangements that are not covered by other sections of this document.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

This annex does not provide any additional explanation and was not updated for the conversion to a standard.

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Public Comment No. 8-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. A.3.3.2 ]

A.3.3.2 Building.

The term building is to be understood as if followed by the words “or portions thereof.” The intent is to alsoapply this standard to structures such as roadway and transit tunnels, bridges, towers, fuel storagefacilities, and other structures insofar as this document applies. ”

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Public Comment No. 7-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. A.3.3.3.7 ]

A.3.3.3.7 Fire Protection and Life Safety Commissioning Team.

The fire protection and life safety commissioning team can be part of a larger building commissioning teamwith team members whose focus is on commissioning electrical, mechanical, plumbing, and electronicssystems. The overall team can be led by a commissioning authority whose responsibility is defined inASHRAE Guideline 0, The Commissioning Process. Members Roles and responsibilties of members ofthe fire protection and life safety commissioning team are described in 5.2.2.1 . Annex C .

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Updated reference to go to the new location of the team member descriptions.

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Public Comment No. 23-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. A.4.4.2 ]

A.4.4. 1. 2

Many NFPA and other approved installation standards have both required and recommendeddocumentation. Where the standard requires specific documentation, such documentation should beincluded in the commissioning documentation. Where there is no specific documentation required by thestandard, the basis of design should include a sample or description of the documentation desired.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Revised to match numbering in the body text.

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Public Comment No. 24-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. A.4.4.3 ]

A.4.4. 1. 3

Many NFPA and other approved installation standards have both required and recommended forms. Wherethe standard requires a specific form be used, such as the Contractor’s Material and Test Certificate forAboveground Piping found in NFPA 13, that form should be included in the commissioning documentation.Where no form or checklist exists, specific forms or checklists should be developed by the firecommissioning agent or approved by the commissioning team to document successful testing of fireprotection and life safety systems and components.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Revised section number to match the changes in the body text.

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Public Comment No. 25-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. A.4.4.4 ]

A.4.4. 4 2.2

The commissioning documents report can be maintained at the site or electronically for ease of access.The owner should be knowledgeable of the storage method and location of the records.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Revised to match body text numbering and use of the term "commissioning report."

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Public Comment No. 15-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. A.5.3.1(1) ]

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A.5.3.1 (1)

A.5.3.1

The

following specific featuresbasis of design should include the following:

(1) A description of the building or structure

should be identified in the basis of designincluding :

(a) Building use group or occupancy classification

(b) Total area of the building

(c) Building height

(d) Number of floors above grade

(e) Number of floors below grade

(f) Area per floor

(g) Type(s) of hazardous areas within buildings

(h) Type(s) of construction

(i) Site access arrangement for emergency response vehicles

(j) Descriptions of fire protection and life safety systems

(k) Year of original construction and known major expansions/remodels

(2) A description of fire protection or life safety systems and components including:

(a) System required by code or installed voluntarily

(b) System is a complete or partial installation

(c) System is an addition or modification to an existing system

(3) Performance objectives and criteria including:

(a) Building occupant notification and evacuation procedures

(b) Emergency personnel response

(c) Site and systems features

(d) Safeguards during construction, including fire prevention and emergency procedures

(e) Impairment plans when modifying existing systems

(4) Identify applicable codes and referenced standards with version or revision date that apply to thedesign, plan review, installation, testing, acceptance, inspection, and maintenance of the proposed fireprotection and life safety systems including:

(a) NFPA standards

(b) Applicable local, state, and federal laws and regulations

(c) Specialized codes and standards

(d) Green building design considerations that affect fire and life safety systems

(5) Alternative means and methods incorporated into the original design including:

(a) Interpretations and clarifications

(b) Waiver or variance sought through the regulatory appeal process

(6) Testing and start-up requirements

Testing criteria should be established and documented. The methods for pre-functional and integratedsystems testing should be documented. The FCxA should identify and document the tools and equipmentnecessary for testing. The FCxA should review manuals, standards, manufacturers’ documents, and othersources to determine the equipment and tools necessary for each phase of testing. The FCxA should alsoconfirm which contractors or other appropriate parties should calibrate and schedule the availability of thetools and equipment for the testing dates.

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Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The change to the annex is to incorporate the material from the body that was improperly located in the mandatory section. The basis of design is the responsibility of the registered design professional and is not strictly the province of this document except as it affects the fire protection and life safety systems.

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Public Comment No. 18-NFPA 3-2016 [Section No.A.5.3.1(4)]

Public Comment No. 19-NFPA 3-2016 [Section No.A.5.3.1(5)]

Public Comment No. 20-NFPA 3-2016 [Section No.A.5.3.1(6)]

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Public Comment No. 16-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. A.5.3.1(2) ]

A.5.3.1(2)

Each fire protection and life safety system should be listed, including the following information:

(1) System required by code or installed voluntarily

(2) System is a complete or partial installation

(3) System is an addition or modification to an existing system

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

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Public Comment No. 17-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. A.5.3.1(3) ]

A.5.3.1(3)

Describe performance criteria and the decisions made to achieve the performance objectives, including thefollowing:

(1) Building occupant notification and evacuation procedures

(2) Emergency personnel response

(3) Site and systems features

(4) Safeguards during construction, including fire prevention and emergency procedures

(5) Impairment plans when modifying existing systems

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Delete as it is included in the new A.5.3.1.

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Public Comment No. 18-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. A.5.3.1(4) ]

A.5.3.1(4)

Identify the codes and standards that apply to the design, plan review, installation, testing, acceptance,inspection, and maintenance of the proposed fire protection and life safety systems. Codes and standardsreferenced and utilized in the design of each fire protection and life safety system should be referencedwith version or revision date, including:

(1) NFPA standards

(2) Applicable local, state, and federal laws and regulations

(3) Specialized codes and standards

(4) Green building design considerations that affect fire and life safety systems

Editions referenced in this document are the latest available during the development of this standard. Theuser should always consult the authority having jurisdiction to ensure compliance with local requirements.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Delete as it is included in the new A.5.3.1.

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Public Comment No. 19-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. A.5.3.1(5) ]

A.5.3.1(5)

The design intent of any alternatives to prescriptive requirements of the codes and standards, including thefollowing, should be identified:

(1) Interpretations and clarifications

(2) Waiver or variance sought through the regulatory appeal process

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Delete as it is included in the new A.5.3.1.

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Public Comment No. 20-NFPA 3-2016 [ Section No. A.5.3.1(6) ]

A.5.3.1(6)

Testing criteria should be established and documented.The methods for pre-functional and integratedsystems testing should be documented. The fire commissioning agent should identify and document thetools and equipment necessary for testing. The fire commissioning agent should review manuals,standards, manufacturers’ documents, and other sources to determine the equipment and tools necessaryfor each phase of testing. The fire commissioning agent should also confirm which contractors or otherappropriate parties should calibrate and schedule the availability of the tools and equipment for the testingdates.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Delete as it is included in the new A.5.3.1.

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Public Comment No. 1-NFPA 4-2016 [ Section No. 1.4.1 ]

1.4.1

Unless otherwise specified Except as specified in Chapter 6 , the provisions of this standard shall not applyto facilities, equipment, structures, or installations that existed or were approved for construction orinstallation prior to the effective date of the standard. Where specified in Chapter 6 , the provisions of thisstandard shall be retroactive.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The retroactivity section was added in the First Draft to address the frequencies mandated in Chapter 6. The suggested language from the Manual of Style was inserted, but there was comment in the ballot process that it was not clear the subject matter of the retroactivity. To clear up any problems, "Chapter 6" is inserted in the language to make it clear when the standard might be retroactive.

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Public Comment No. 2-NFPA 4-2016 [ Section No. 3.3.12.1.2 ]

3.3.12.1.2 End-to-End Integrated System Test.

A test of the response of an input from one or more individual systems to an input on another individualsystem the last ouput of one or more individual systems .

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

A ballot comment was that end to end testing was an industry term, but it is defined in NFPA 4. However, the comment did point out that there is a deficiency in the definition of end to end testing. This change incorporates the proposed text from the ballot comment.

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Public Comment No. 3-NFPA 4-2016 [ Section No. 4.5.2 ]

4.5.2 *

For existing systems, the integrated test plan shall include the items listed in 4.5.1 to allow the test team toverify that integrated systems function as was required when the system was initially installed.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

As mentioned in a ballot comment, the words "the system was" is re-inserted to make it clear the subject matter of the final phrase.

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Public Comment No. 14-NFPA 4-2016 [ Section No. 4.5.3.1 ]

4.5.3.1

Omission of an integrated systems test plan shall require approval of the AHJ.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

While all integrated systems must have integrated testing, the technical committee has already established that a test plan as described by NFPA 4 isn't required when there are a limited number of integrated systems. The additional requirement to have the AHJ approve that a test plan can be omitted is onerous and will likely not be granted. There are multiple AHJs on every project and to have them all sign off on the omission of a test plan is impractical. The fire official or building official AHJ can require whatever they want through the adoption of codes and through local ordinances. However, most will not "approve" that something can be omitted because they may not understand what's involved with creating a test plan, even for a limited number of integrated systems.

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Public Comment No. 16-NFPA 4-2016 [ New Section after 4.5.6 ]

TITLE OF NEW CONTENT

4.5.7* The test plan shall include guidance for retest requirements in the event that a system, or component,or device fails during the integrated test.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

This new text was presented, voted on, and accepted at the first draft meeting, but was not included in the first draft report.The previous edition of NFPA 4 didn’t explain what additional tests or procedures need to be followed if the integrated test or portion of the test fails because a device or system didn’t do what it was supposed to. The integrated test is very labor intensive and time consuming with several people present for each system being tested. Because a flow switch annunciated incorrectly, or a door closer didn’t operate properly, or the kitchen hood system didn’t shut down exhaust fans, is no reason to have to retest all of the other systems once the failure is fixed. The test plan should describe what type of retest is required based on the failure, and the text method should incorporate what the plan describes. This new language will make it clear that a complete integrated re-test isn’t required.

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Public Comment No. 17-NFPA 4-2016 [ New Section after 5.1.3 ]

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5.1.3.1* In the event that a system has a failure during the integrated test, that system shall be allowed tobe retested without a complete integrated test of all integrated systems.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

This new text was presented, voted on, and accepted at the first draft meeting, but was not included in the first draft report.The previous edition of NFPA 4 didn’t explain what additional tests or procedures need to be followed if the integrated test or portion of the test fails because a device or system didn’t do what it was supposed to. The integrated test is very labor intensive and time consuming with several people present for each system being tested. Because a flow switch annunciated incorrectly, or a door closer didn’t operate properly, or the kitchen hood system didn’t shut down exhaust fans, is no reason to have to retest all of the other systems once the failure is fixed. The test plan should describe what type of retest is required based on the failure, and the text method should incorporate what the plan describes. This new language will make it clear that a complete integrated re-test isn’t required.

Related Public Comments for This Document

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Public Comment No. 19-NFPA 4-2016 [New Section after A.4.5.3]

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Committee Input No. 16-NFPA 4-2015 [New Section after C.3]

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Submitter Full Name: Terry Victor

Organization: Tyco/SimplexGrinnell

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Public Comment No. 4-NFPA 4-2016 [ New Section after 6.1 ]

6.1.2*

Where another standard requires testing of an individual system component that is either an input or outputin integrated systems, the required test shall be done as an end-to-end integrated systems test.

A.6.1.2

The following are examples of when to perform an end-to-end integrated systems test.

Example 1: A water flow switch in an automatic fire sprinkler system is to be tested semiannually perNFPA25:5.3.3.2. The water flow switch is an input to the fire alarm system that results in an alarm.

Example 2: An elevator lobby smoke detector is to be tested annually per NFPA 72:Table 14.4.3.2, Item17(g)(1). The elevator lobby smoke is an input to the elevator controls, which should be tested for correctfunctioning of the elevators.

Example 3: A smoke detector used for door control is to be tested annually per NFPA 72:Table 14.4.3.2,Item 17(g)(1). The smoke detector activation and verification of the door closing and latching (NFPA 80)should be tested.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

As was pointed out in the public input and at the First Draft meeting, there is a huge chasm in integrated testing that is not addressed by any NFPA standard, but definitely within the province of NFPA 4. No where in NFPA 4 does it address this simple end-to-end testing that is so needed. I recall many committee discussions that included wonderment at some of the witnessed testing procedures that wouldtest a component of an individual system but not confirm the appropriate action in the integrated systems.

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Public Input No. 13-NFPA 4-2015 [Section No. 6.1]

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Submitter Full Name: Michael DeVore

Organization: State Farm Insurance Company

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Submittal Date: Thu Mar 17 16:34:02 EDT 2016

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Public Comment No. 20-NFPA 4-2016 [ Section No. 6.3.2 ]

6.3.2*

For existing systems, within 5 years of the adoption of this standard, an integrated system test plan shallbe developed.

6.3.2.1

An integrated systems test plan shall not be required for buildings with limited integrated systems whereapproved by the AHJ.

6.3.2.2

Limited integrated systems in accordance with 4.5.3 are not required to have a test plan.

6.3.2.3

Within 5 years of the adoption of this standard, integrated systems testing shall be performed unless adifferent frequency is permitted by the test plan.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

While we would like to see more occupancy-informed, and more scalable approaches identified for solving the integrated building safety system problem, we support the incremental approach to rolling out this standard. In the Internet of Things more devices are being connected which adds a new dimension to the building safety problem.

A more more granular distinction between commissioning, re-commissioning and retro-commissioning - O&M budget considerations -- would be welcomed in the next revision.

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First Revision No. 7-NFPA 4-2015 [Section No. 6.3.2]

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Submitter Full Name: Michael Anthony

Organization: University of Michigan

Affilliation: University of Michigan Plant Operations

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Submittal Date: Mon May 16 09:12:22 EDT 2016

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Public Comment No. 5-NFPA 4-2016 [ Section No. 6.3.2 ]

6.3.2 *

For existing systems, within 5 years of the adoption of this standard, an integrated system test plan shall bedeveloped.

6.3.2.1

An integrated systems test plan shall not be required for buildings with limited integrated systems whereapproved by the AHJ.

6.3.2.2

Limited integrated systems in accordance with 4.5.3 are not required to have a test plan.

6.3.2. 3 2

Within If an integrated system test plan is not developed within  5 years of the adop on of this standard, integrated

systems tes ng shall be performed unless a different frequency is permitted by the test plan .

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The committee action on the original public input did not meet the action requested by the maker of the input. The First Draft language does not do or mean the same thing as the public input. The purpose of the last section is to show a consequence for not making a test plan. This proposed language is actually in the current edition of NFPA 4. Also, the additional section written by the committee used non-standard language for limited integrated systems and was redundant with the next section, which was pointed out in the ballot comments.

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Public Input No. 16-NFPA 4-2015 [Section No. 6.3.2]

First Revision No. 7-NFPA 4-2015 [Section No. 6.3.2]

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Submitter Full Name: Michael DeVore

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Submittal Date: Thu Mar 17 16:50:40 EDT 2016

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Public Comment No. 15-NFPA 4-2016 [ Section No. 6.3.2.1 ]

6.3.2.1

An integrated systems test plan shall not be required for buildings with limited integrated systems whereapproved by the AHJ .

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

While all integrated systems must have integrated testing, the technical committee has already established that a test plan as described by NFPA 4 isn't required when there are a limited number of integrated systems. The additional requirement to have the AHJ approve that a test plan can be omitted is onerous and will likely not be granted. There are multiple AHJs on every project and to have them all sign off on the omission of a test plan is impractical. The fire official or building official AHJ can require whatever they want through the adoption of codes and through local ordinances. However, most will not "approve" that something can be omitted because they may not understand what's involved with creating a test plan, even for a limited number of integrated systems.

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First Revision No. 7-NFPA 4-2015 [Section No. 6.3.2]

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Submitter Full Name: Terry Victor

Organization: Tyco/SimplexGrinnell

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Submittal Date: Fri May 13 08:57:00 EDT 2016

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Public Comment No. 18-NFPA 4-2016 [ New Section after A.4.5.3 ]

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A.4.5.7 In many instances, a device, or component, or the interface to a system fails during the integratedtest. Because of that failure, it may not be necessary to retest all of the integrated systems. The test planshould include contingencies that address such failures as much as possible.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

This new text was presented, voted on, and accepted at the first draft meeting, but was not included in the first draft report.The previous edition of NFPA 4 didn’t explain what additional tests or procedures need to be followed if the integrated test or portion of the test fails because a device or system didn’t do what it was supposed to. The integrated test is very labor intensive and time consuming with several people present for each system being tested. Because a flow switch annunciated incorrectly, or a door closer didn’t operate properly, or the kitchen hood system didn’t shut down exhaust fans, is no reason to have to retest all of the other systems once the failure is fixed. The test plan should describe what type of retest is required based on the failure, and the text method should incorporate what the plan describes. This new language will make it clear that a complete integrated re-test isn’t required.

Related Public Comments for This Document

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Public Comment No. 16-NFPA 4-2016 [New Section after 4.5.6] New annex text for new section.

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Committee Input No. 16-NFPA 4-2015 [New Section after C.3]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Terry Victor

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Submittal Date: Fri May 13 16:12:44 EDT 2016

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Public Comment No. 19-NFPA 4-2016 [ New Section after A.4.5.3 ]

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A.5.1.3.1 When a system, or component or device fails during the integrated test, the Intergrated TestingAgent should determine which other systems, if any, need to be retested once corrections are made to thefailed system. The retest doesn’t necessarily need to include all integrated systems in the building. A retestof the failed system may only need to be performed back to the interface.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

This new text was presented, voted on, and accepted at the first draft meeting, but was not included in the first draft report.The previous edition of NFPA 4 didn’t explain what additional tests or procedures need to be followed if the integrated test or portion of the test fails because a device or system didn’t do what it was supposed to. The integrated test is very labor intensive and time consuming with several people present for each system being tested. Because a flow switch annunciated incorrectly, or a door closer didn’t operate properly, or the kitchen hood system didn’t shut down exhaust fans, is no reason to have to retest all of the other systems once the failure is fixed. The test plan should describe what type of retest is required based on the failure, and the text method should incorporate what the plan describes. This new language will make it clear that a complete integrated re-test isn’t required.

Related Public Comments for This Document

Related Comment Relationship

Public Comment No. 17-NFPA 4-2016 [New Section after 5.1.3] Ne annex text for new section added.

Related Item

Committee Input No. 16-NFPA 4-2015 [New Section after C.3]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Terry Victor

Organization: Tyco/SimplexGrinnell

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Submittal Date: Fri May 13 16:17:08 EDT 2016

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Public Comment No. 6-NFPA 4-2016 [ Section No. A.6.2.1 ]

A.6.2.1

Integrated testing can be permitted to be For limited integrated systems, the ini al integrated systems tes ng

may be conducted in conjunction with the acceptance testing of the individual systems or after completionof the acceptance testing of the individual systems. (see A.4.5.3 for examples) .

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Eliminated the double negative in the existing language and added the pointer to A.4.5.3 for examples of limited systems and how the integrated systems testing is done.

Related Item

Public Input No. 15-NFPA 4-2015 [Section No. A.6.2.1]

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Submittal Date: Fri Mar 18 09:34:10 EDT 2016

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