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“There’s no ‘there’ there.” Is “there” a noun or an adverb? Laura Blumenthal Douglas College

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“There’s no ‘there’ there.”

Is “there” a noun or an adverb?

Laura Blumenthal

Douglas College

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Adverb

Adverbial usages = at that place, to that place, usually at the end of a sentence or clause:

O They have a laundromat and a café there.

O Don’t go there!

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Pronoun

If it’s a pronoun, why doesn’t the verb agree with it, or why doesn’t it change forms?

O There is a man; there are two women.O This is a man; these are two women.

The form of the pronoun must change.

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Pronoun

If it’s a pronoun, why doesn’t the verb agree with it, or why doesn’t it change forms?

It works like “what”:

O What is the answer? O What are the reasons?

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Which is more frequent?

O Pronoun: 47O Adverb: 3

O Source: lextutor.ca

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Typical student errors

O “They went to there”O “It was a place where were many people.”

WHY?

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Interference from L1

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Interference from L1

“There is a library there.”

(Translate into a language you know.)

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Interference from L1Spanish: Hay una biblioteca ahí. = It has a library there.

French: Il y a une bibliothèque là-bas. = It has there a library down there.

German: Es gibt eine Bibliothek dort. = It gives a library there.

Turkish: Şurada kütüphane var. = At there library exists.

Japanese: Asokoni toshokan-ga arimasu. = That place-in library (nominative) exists.

Mandarin: Nàlǐ yǒu yīgè túshūguǎn. = That place there is a library.

Korean: Do suh guan en jugi e yo. = Library is at place.

Arabic: Tuwjad maktaba hunak = There is library there.

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Resources

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ResourcesA. Learners’ dictionaries

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ResourcesA. Learners’ dictionaries

Oxford Advanced Learner’s Dictionary, 7th Edition (2005)

Adverb only!

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ResourcesA. Learners’ dictionaries

• Oxford ESL Dictionary (2004)

• Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English, Advanced, 5th Edition (2009)

Pronoun and Adverb

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Resources

B. Grammar textbooks for learners

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Resources

B. Grammar textbooks for learners

Only “there is/are” without identifying the P.O.S.

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Resources

C. Websites

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ResourcesC. Website – jackpot!

There is a glass there, where the first there is a pronoun (the so-called 'existential there') and the other there is an adverb.– FumbleFingersNov 20 '13 at 4:11

http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/138413/how-to-know-what-part-of-speech-is-there-in-some-cases

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ResourcesD. Grammar textbooks for teachers

1) Parrott, M. (2010) Grammar for English Language Teachers (2nd ed). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.

2) Celce-Murcia, M. (1983) The Grammar Book: An ESL/EFL Teacher's Course. Rowley, MA: Newbury House.

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ResourcesD. Grammar textbooks for teachers

• “there is/are” – explained as “dummy”subject

• confusion with the other there – not mentioned in Parrott

• “non-referential” - contrasted in Celce-Murcia

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Concordance worksheet

Your task:

O Identify the different types of usages.O Decide with your partner what to call

each different type.

(50-instance Brown concordance, on lextutor.ca)

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Concordance worksheetMy results:

Adverb: 3there is (in various tenses + negative)

O there is: 10O there are: 5O there was: 7O there wasn’t: 1O there were: 2O there has been: 5O there has not been: 1O there will be: 2O there’s not: 1

NOTE: there [BE] no 11!

variations on there is: 22O + adverb

O there also isO there certainly was not

O HedgingO there may beO there seemed to beO there should beO Should there be …?O there would be

O Other:O there existed

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Implications(for teaching)

Teach both – contrast them.

RE-introduce “there” = pronoun, when introducing

O a structure that it goes with, or O a function such as hedging

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Implications(for teaching)

Include it in exercises about

O modals (there will be, there would be), O past tense modals (there could have

been, there must have been)O hedging (there seems to be, there are

evidently, there could be, there is evidence of)

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Implications(for teaching)

Don’t forget question formation:

O Will there be? O Would there be? O Could there have been? O Does there seem to be [hard!]? O Are there evidently [awkward]?

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Thank you!

With special thanks to my language support:O Yoriko GillardO Haisen (Edwin) ZhangO Eun-Yu (David) KimO Huda Al-TayarO Amal Ayyash

Laura Blumenthal ([email protected])