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Your Thoughts translational motion + rotational motion = DANG, BRO. The race between the hoop, the big cylinder, and the little cylinder confuse me to no end! wow. That was a LOT of information... Are you guys trying to fry us before break or something? I honestly don't know how I feel about these concepts until I start doing the homework because that's when I see what stuck and made sense and what didn't. I would like to see some examples similar to the homework that is coming up . I remember doing this stuff back in high school, my teacher took a can of pop that had liquid in it while the other was frozen solid, both having hte same mass, and he rolled them down a ramp. can we work on a practice problem or two in class...I learn best if I can see something being worked through. I can understand concepts but still be completely lost when it comes to actually doing a problem. My thoughts on this lecture are best summed up in this quote from Ozzy: "SHAAAAAROOOON." I feel like I can visualize this stuff well just from living on this earth for my whole life... Every monday night from 7-9 there is a free improv show at the Illini Union Courtyard Cafe... if you yell out physics lab as a suggestion for the group that goes up at 8, you would get to see a pretty awesome improvised MUSICAL! about physics.... i dare you to go see it march 13th is my birthday. and there's no better way to celebrate than to go to physics lecture! yay! PLEASE play Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap! Stelzer > Selen. True story.
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Physics 211Lecture 16
Today’s Concepts:a) Rolling Kinetic Energyb) Angular Acceleration
Physics 211 Lecture 16, Slide 1
Your Thoughtstranslational motion + rotational motion = DANG, BRO.The race between the hoop, the big cylinder, and the little cylinder confuse me to no end!wow. That was a LOT of information... Are you guys trying to fry us before break or something?I honestly don't know how I feel about these concepts until I start doing the homework because that's when I see what stuck and made sense and what didn't.I would like to see some examples similar to the homework that is coming up .I remember doing this stuff back in high school, my teacher took a can of pop that had liquid in it while the other was frozen solid, both having hte same mass, and he rolled them down a ramp.can we work on a practice problem or two in class...I learn best if I can see something being worked through. I can understand concepts but still be completely lost when it comes to actually doing a problem.My thoughts on this lecture are best summed up in this quote from Ozzy: "SHAAAAAROOOON."I feel like I can visualize this stuff well just from living on this earth for my whole life... Every monday night from 7-9 there is a free improv show at the Illini Union Courtyard Cafe... if you yell out physics lab as a suggestion for the group that goes up at 8, you would get to see a pretty awesome improvised MUSICAL! about physics.... i dare you to go see it march 13th is my birthday. and there's no better way to celebrate than to go to physics lecture! yay!PLEASE play Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap!Stelzer > Selen. True story.
Mechanics Lecture 16, Slide 2
Mechanics Lecture 17, Slide 3
2nd Exam is the week after break:Covers lectures 7-13 (not the stuff we are doing now)
Sign up for the conflict if you need to before the end of this week. As before, email Dr. Jain if you have a double conflict ([email protected]).
Tuesdays class right after break will be a review(we will work out Fall 2010 exam) .
Don’t forget that there are lots of extra office hours during exam week.
Rolling
If there is no slipping:
Mechanics Lecture 16, Slide 4
v = R(prelecture slide 5)
Energy Conservation
H
PE MgH=0KE =
0PE =trans rotKE K K=
Mechanics Lecture 16, Slide 5
Two ways of looking at this
F = maa
Mg
f aI a= rr
Dynamics
Energy Conservation
Objects of different I rolling down an inclined plane:
v = 0 = 0 K = 0
RM
h
v = R
Mechanics Lecture 16, Slide 6
K = 0U = M g h
22
21
21 MvIK =
U = 0
0K U = 2 21 12 2
MgH I Mv=
Lets work out the general case…
Use v = R and I = cMR2 .
Doesn’t depend on M or R, just on c (the shape)
Hoop: c = 1
Disk: c = 1/2
Sphere: c = 2/5
etc...
2222 121
21
21 MvMvMRK == c c
Ramp demo
v
22
21
21
MvIK =
MghMv = 2121So: c c 1
12
= ghv
Mechanics Lecture 16, Slide 7
Clicker Question
A hula-hoop rolls along the floor without slipping. What is the ratio of its rotational kinetic energy to its translational kinetic energy?
Recall that I = MR2 for a hoop about an axis through its CM:
A) B) C)
1rot
trans
KK
= 34
rot
trans
KK
= 12
rot
trans
KK
=
Mechanics Lecture 16, Slide 8
A block and a ball have the same mass and move with the same initial velocity across a floor and then encounter identical ramps. The block slides without friction and the ball rolls without slipping. Which one makes it furthest up the ramp?
A) BlockB) BallC) Both reach the same height.
CheckPoint
v
v
Mechanics Lecture 16, Slide 9
The block slides without friction and the ball rolls without slipping. Which one makes it furthest up the ramp?
A) BlockB) BallC) Same
v
v
A) The block would have more distance as all the energy is put into moving it translationally, not rotationally.
B) Ball has more initial kinetic energy so goes up higher.C) they both have the same total kinetic energy therefore they will have the same height.
Mechanics Lecture 16, Slide 10
CheckPoint
CheckPointA cylinder and a hoop have the same mass and radius. They are released at the same time and roll down a ramp without slipping. Which one reaches the bottom first?
A) CylinderB) HoopC) Both reach the bottom at the
same time
Mechanics Lecture 16, Slide 11
A) They have the same potential energy but the hoop has a larger rotational inertia so more energy converted into rotational kinetic energy
B) The moment of inertia is higher on the hoop and it will have more energy going down the ramp.
C) Same mass and radius and both rotate, no difference.
Which one reaches the bottom first?
Mechanics Lecture 16, Slide 12
A) CylinderB) HoopC) Both reach the bottom at the
same time
CheckPoint
A small light cylinder and a large heavy cylinder are released at the same time and roll down a ramp without slipping. Which one reaches the bottom first?
A) Small cylinderB) Large cylinderC) Both reach the bottom
at the same time
Mechanics Lecture 16, Slide 13
A) Small cylinderB) Large cylinderC) Both reach the bottom
at the same time
A) the large cylinder has a large moment of inertia.
B) greater moment of inertia.C) Both cylinders will have the same equation
for rotational inertia, so mass will end up being superfluous, so the fact that one is larger doesn't matter.
Mechanics Lecture 16, Slide 14
Acceleration
Mechanics Lecture 16, Slide 15
Acceleration
Mechanics Lecture 16, Slide 16
Acceleration depends only on the shape, not on mass or radius.
Acceleration
Mechanics Lecture 16, Slide 17
Mechanics Lecture 16, Slide 18
Example ProblemSuppose a cylinder (radius R, mass M) is used as a pulley. Two masses (m1 > m2) are attached to either end of a string that hangs over the pulley, and when the system is released it moves as shown. The string does not slip on the pulley.
What is the acceleration of the blocks?
aT1
a
T2
aR
M
m1m2
Clicker QuestionSuppose a cylinder (radius R, mass M) is used as a pulley. Two masses (m1 > m2) are attached to either end of a string that hangs over the pulley, and when the system is released it moves as shown. The string does not slip on the pulley.
Compare the tension in the string on either side of the pulley:
A) T1 > T2
B) T1 = T2
C) T1 < T2
Mechanics Lecture 16, Slide 19
a2T1
a1
T2
aR
M
m1m2
Atwood's Machine with Massive Pulley:A pair of masses are hung over a massive disk-shaped pulley as shown.
Find the acceleration of the blocks.
For the hanging masses use F = ma
For the pulley use = IaRaI=
T1R - T2RaIR
=
Mechanics Lecture 16, Slide 20
m2gm1g
aT1
a
T2
aR
M
m1m2
(Since for a disk)2
21 MRI =
12
MRa=
m1g - T1 = m1aT2 - m2g = m2a
We have three equations and three unknowns (T1, T2, a).
Solve for a.
m1g - T1 = m1a (1)
T2 - m2g = m2a (2)
T1 - T2 (3)Ma21
=
gMmm
mma
-=
221
21
Mechanics Lecture 16, Slide 21
m2gm1g
aT1
a
T2
aR
M
m1m2
Atwood's Machine with Massive Pulley:
I a= fRI
=22
5
MgR
MR
=
52
gR
=Ia =
Mechanics Lecture 16, Slide 22
vf RM
a
F Ma=FaM
= MgM
= g=
Mechanics Lecture 16, Slide 23
vf RM
a
v
a RM
Once v=R it rollswithout slipping
a g=
52
gRa =
v R=
0v at tRa- =
05
2gv gt t- =
07
2gv t
=
02
7t v
g=
t
= at
Mechanics Lecture 16, Slide 24
t
vv0
v = v0 - at
t
v0
R = a Rt
v = v0 - atv = R
v
a RM
Plug in a and t found in parts 2) & 3)
20
12
x v t at= -
0v v at= -0
27
t vg
=a g=
Mechanics Lecture 16, Slide 25
v
a RM
We can try this…
a g=
02
7t v
g=Interesting aside: how v is related to v0 :
0v v at= -0
02( )
7vv v gg
= -
0 0
27
v v v= -
Doesn’t depend on 057
v v=
00.714v v=Mechanics Lecture 16, Slide 26