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Trance communication and the mind of the medium

by +uest on Sat 1ul 02, 0334 //(33 pm

Research has consistently sho$n that the medium5s mind is, to a greater or lesser degree, al$ays

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present during trance communication, even $hen that trance state is deep6 This is entirely logical6 After

all, the communication is coming through a human instrument6

7hat, then, are the implications for critical evaluation of evidence received through such mediumship89learly, the astute sitter $ill immediately discount ) or take $ith a large pinch of salt ) any

communication $hich contains information previously kno$n to the medium6

7hat other criteria should be employed $hen assessing evidence received through trance

communication8 : $ould be interested to kno$ your thoughts6

;est to all

Alan

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i Alan,

: have been steering around this ?uestion because : have not tried to do any trance yet6 7hen : first

became involved $ith Spiritualism, as a result of meeting Lis, : $as lucky enough to be fast trackedinto the circle $here Lis did deep trance6 @ormal protocols in place, her friend and Maid of onour at

our $edding aphne $as circle leader and physical control responsible for testing the spirits plus Lis5s

$ell being $ith Lis5s o$n guides in SpiritB6 Lis had about C different guides that $ould come through6*nce communication $as starting aphne5s husband $ould activate the reel to reel recorder in another

room because he $ould be sitting there listening in through the microphone in the circle room6

:nteresting, because in Lis5s deep trance she $as totally overshado$ed by her guides and you couldclearly distinguish the outline and look of them, often appearing that Lis had completely changed shape

the circle room $as in dim red lightB6

:ts no$ 0D years since : listened to the recordings, $hich $ere copied over to cassette but : $as

impressed $ith the ?uality and nature of the recordings6 :t $as also interesting that spirit $ould edit out

some conversations by not recording them and on one occasion they actually recorded a totally

different trance communication to that $hich occured in the room6

: remember the discussions that took place then6 ;y linking those ideas to $hat : have learned since

and looking at your thoughts : believe that $hat you suggest is ?uite right6 That some part of themediums mind remains involved, indeed : think that if the medium has a very strong opinion on an

issue it $ill appear6 9ontroversially : believe $e see this clearly $hen abortion appears as a subEect,

some trance mediums bring forth violent opposition others are neutral and not at all Eudgemental6 Thereis a very clear division of opinion about $hen the Spirit enters the body $ith many spiritualists saying

at birth and others suggesting different times6 :t appears to me that this is the one period in life $here

there has been a little pre planning consciously or unconsciously by those physical parentsB so : think

it $ould be at the most beneficil time for the spirit involved to learn that lesson they chose6 Looking atthis : cannot believe that $hatever the parents choose at this time is harmful to Spirit5s plan6

: raise this to indicate the problem Eust in trance $here it is necessary to carefully evaluate theinformation and decide upon the value of the material6 ?ually the $orth of the spirits need to be

checked are they real or giving $hat appears to be misinformation6 : have to say this is eGactly the case

$ith avid Thompson and 7illiam 9harles 9ad$ell, $here the information given on his eGistence is$rong and the material he gives can include potentially harmful advice6 avid is also interesting

because he uses his martial arts training to link into trance6 : am a$are of a fe$ HchannellersH $ho link

this $ay rather than the traditional meditation approach6 : don5t kno$ if anyone has any thoughts onthis methodology8

*f course in any trance $e also have the decision to make, is the person deliberately making up thecommunication6 Alternatively by $hatever means they change their consciousness are they

inadvertantly accessing a multiple personality or a seperate part of their o$n consciousness $e should

be a$are that certain mental conditions can possibly be triggered by our $ork and the voices peoplehear are their o$nB remember in serious multiple personality cases physical features and health

conditions can appear and disappear6 Then $e may Eust have someone $ho is so uncontrolled going

into trance that they are $illing to let anything in $hatever it may do6 :n the modern, learn trance in aday $orkshops, thats a real risk6


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So entering this minefield, ho$ do $e evaluate this, in honesty : think it is by very tight ?uestioning of

the Spirits that appear6 :t is essential to Eudge the $orth of ho$ they appear and $hat they say and do6 :t

is my understanding that, for eGample, 7arren 9aylor5s purported 9hild +uide loves to smash things

up6 For the life of me : cannot see ho$ this relates to either a $ise spiritual being or even one that isreally appropriate to help us carry the message of survival6

: have also heard it propounded that the intellectual capacity of the medium is a limiting factor to $hatcan be brought through and the $ay it $ill be presented6 The communicators $ill tend to gravitate to

$hatever they can $ork $ith and spirit $ill recognise that $ith an appropriate match up6

9learly part of the Eob is also to kno$ the medium involved and his value system and ethics if this is

actually possible as superficially many can look greatB6 :f truly like attracts like then a medium $ho is

prepared to enhance his abilities and make unreal claims is likely to, if he is really $orking $ith spirit,attract a similar spirit personality6 :f there are reservations about the medium then it is likely that the

communications need even more careful checking6

:t is a fascinating ?uestion to look at and over history Spiritualism has not done it consistently $ell6Many people have reEected our movement because the claims, that trance and physical mediums have

been bringing great ones through, are not matched to the intelligence and style of their

communications6 *n that subEect : ran into a rather sympathetic piece from a 1esuit Priest aboutSpiritualism, a erbert Thurston in /==>, $ho : understand used to communicate $ith Maurice

;arbanell6 e makes it clear that had the material brought through by Spiritualists from supposed great

intelligences, even from the very earliest days and H;enEamin FranklinH, better matched the type of?uality that should have been eGpected from these evolved one5s then he and many others may have

embraced the movement6 :ndeed a $riter in the @e$ #ork times made a similar comment to Thurston

/D3 years ago about the multiplycity of dumb ;enEamin Franklins6

So you are right to ask , if the Spirits are talking to us it is a necessity that $e evaluate, consider and

discern before accepting6

: hope by ans$ering you : open the flood gates for you on this very vital topic6

9heers

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by iceblueon Tue Sep 0C, 0334 4(>0 am

+day,yes the mediums mind can interfere,like other types of mediums you get ya good ones,and then

the ones that try6o$ever a good trance medium,the guide $ill of course take over,and many $ill find

that if they try and put their o$n thoughts in, the communication stopsdoes $ith me any$ayB6Trancelevels are different $ith every medium, deeper the trance less likely for the mind to interfere6That said

tho,my guide often says things that contradict my o$n thoughts or vie$s,$hich spins me out6

: had a gent sit $ith me recently,a very good medium himself the guide came thru,gave a very ?uick

chat and $ithdre$,told me that it $as no good $ith that fella there6The neGt $eek he gave a very longtalk on those $ho can only criticiJe,and do so $ithout looking into things deeper,criticiJe $ithout

understanding,he $as talking about the bloke from the $eek before6So a negative or unsuitable sitter

can effect the trance levels therefor the mind can interfere more6Method i use personally,it takes about /> mins for me to relaG and the guide take over,so $e sit and

listen to classical music for that time,$hen he comes thru the music is turned do$n, not off6

:n this first /> mins or so i feel him come close, in and out,he never rushes things he gets me at adecent level then starts talking,the more he talks the deeper the state gets till i feel like iam floating,i

have had obes at this stage,i feel very removed like iam going to fall asleep6:t $ill stay at this stage

until he is ready to $ithdra$,i feel him starting to $ithdra$ before he says his good byes,and he slo$lylightens the trance again6Sometimes i can remember sometimes not $hat he has said6

My guide only does the trance $ork,rarely does he let anyone else take control6*ne of the cheeky

children comes thru sometimes,complaining they dont let him speak enough6: did think this young fella

$as part of my imagination ) ego) $hatever you $ant to call it,until one of my sitters told me she hashim on film,he paid her a visit so she thought she $ould record it,he al$ays $ears a tuG to

circle/3year old in a tuG lolBsure enough he has the tuG on6

The better the medium the better the communication,tho like $ith all things if $hat they say does notring true then dismiss it,or ?uestion it6

:am sure that especially in the early stages of development the mind of the medium plays a big part,but

development needs to push the medium and push himKher to the point $here they do loose control to

their guide,so the trance medium needs the right mentors to enable this to happen,so not only do youneed a suitable medium,but that medium needs suitable teaching,it is $ith this teaching pushed by the

mentors $hich in the end, results in a decent trance mediumship6

: think the medium at times doubts themselves $ondering if it is their o$n self or spirit,but $hen theydo things like ?uote from books the medium has never even heard of,you have to $onder eh6ib

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by mandyon Tue *ct /D, 0334 >(3D pm

A$ $hat a lovely eGplanation there :ce

1im you kno$ $ith the like attracts like theory do you think that could be $hy certain guides come

through $ith certain opinions such as abortion $hether they are for it or against it666could it be that

guides do retain their personality to a certain degree and the like attracts like theory comes into practice

$hen a guide and medium are brought together, $hether the choice is made before incarnation or$henever8

Love and Light

Mandy GG

: am really getting interested in trance6 : thought a guy : kne$ $as already developing as a trance

medium but apparantly he has had training at stanstead and he says that he $ill be starting to sit fortrance shortly but he hasn5t yet6 : offered to sit for him6 : $ould love as much advice as possible if he

accepts my offer6 : hope he does6

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by iceblueon Tue *ct /D, 0334 /3(>4 pm

;est advice i can give $ould be find a good mentor or teacher that can help $ith the trance6:f you are

sitting for someone else,keep the guide talking $ith lots of ?uestions6Some trance mediums and theirguides $ill start off $ith a very long talk on this and that, light and love etc,they may not take
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?uestions,but most should be able to6

7illo$ does not tend to chit chat much,he says his greetings and takes ?uestions straight a$ay,some

times a talk on an appropriate subEect if needed6More sensitive sitters should also be able to feel the

presence of the guide also6: have seen trance mediums and i have seen trance mediums,use discernmentin the content and also picking a decent teacher6ib

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by mandyon 7ed *ct />, 0334 /3(/C am

Thanks hun

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by garygrayon 7ed Apr 3/, 033= //(0< am

i all, does anyone kno$ of a reputable medium in 9ape To$n, SA $ho $ould be able to give acourseKguidance in direct voiceK channeling $ork 8 : am interested in further reseach and $ould

appreciate sincere direction66

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Admin wrote:i Alan,

: have been steering around this ?uestion because : have not tried to do any trance yet6

7hen : first became involved $ith Spiritualism, as a result of meeting Lis, : $as luckyenough to be fast tracked into the circle $666666666666666666666666many others may have embraced

the movement6 :ndeed a $riter in the @e$ #ork times made a similar comment to Thurston


So you are right to ask , if the Spirits are talking to us it is a necessity that $e evaluate,

consider and discern before accepting6


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1im

eGcellent piece, 1im6 Thoroughly enEoyed it6

As al$ays the key factor seems to be 5Test the communicator56

6666yuh don5t need eyes to see, yuh need vision666 it ain5t gettin5 any easier&

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by macon 7ed Apr 3/, 033= /0(/3 pm

"My guide only does the trance work,rarely does he let anyone else take control.One of the cheekychildren comes thru sometimes,complaining they dont let him speak enough.I did think this young fella

was part of my imagination - ego- whatever you want to call it, until one of my sitters told me she hashim on film,he paid her a visit so she thought she would record it,he always wears a tu to

circle!#year old in a tu lol$sure enough he has the tu on."

#ou got me $ondering here, uncan66666

7ould you enlarge upon the underlined, boldsection above, please8


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HOW SILVR !IR"H "O#TROLS HIS $%I&$

%ilver &irch is always anious to answer our 'uestions and when, at one sitting, a sitter asked him to

eplain how he controlled his medium, the guide went into great detail in his eplanation. (e said:

: am not inside this body6 Around this body there is an aura ) you kno$ the aura is $hat is depicted in

the pictures of saints ) and : come into that aura $ith my aura6 ;ut your pictures only sho$ the aura as$hite6 :n reality, it is full of colours, and these colours are a complete indication of everything that you

do, $hat you think and $hat you are6 Those $ho can see the aura kno$ you better than you kno$

yourselves6 They kno$ the sort of person you are ) $hat you think, $hat you have achieved, $here youlack and $here you succeed6 The aura is the permanent record of everything that you are6

: come as close as : can, $hilst the instrument makes himself receptive6 e must not set up anyvibrations because they disturb6 e must be ?uiet6 :f he runs about : cannot come into his aura6 As he

sits passively, so his consciousness slips a$ay and :, harmoniJing myself $ith the aura, try to achieve a

perfect union6 The more perfect the union bet$een his aura and mine, the more perfect is the control

that : have over him6

: become, for the time being, and $ith his permission and co)operation, the tenant not of his body but

of his mind6 is consciousness has abdicated in my favour and : am his conscious mind, $hilst : reign6;ecause all the cells of the body are controlled by the mind, through the brain, my control gives me

complete mastery over the body6 : can speak $ith his lips, : can move his hands and his legs6 :f you

touch him, he does not feel it6 :f you pinch him, or stick pins or needles in him, he does not feel it6People have done that6 :t does not register6

: am no$ the tenant, and : thro$ a shaft of light on to the back of his neck6 That gives me control of all

the nerves in the body as $ell, so that : have mental control, control over the nerves and completephysical control $hilst : am using this instrument6

7hen : first began to use him, : had to search through his vocabulary to find $ords, learning them allthe time like you have to $hen you learn a foreign language6 : had to learn the $ords and then find

them in his vocabulary and, as it $ere, press the key of a type$riter to make the $ords rise to his lips6

Then the trouble $as that $hen : hit one key tofind a $ord, his subconscious mind, $hich $as not then

properly trained, $ould interfere, because of the association of ideas that al$ays eGists6

So : had to learn, $hile : $as mastering this language, so to control this subconscious mind that $hen :

$anted one $ord that $ord only registered and nothing else came $ith it6 That took me a long time, but

no$ : find any $ord : $ant and even $ords that he has forgotten, and sometimes $ords he never uses6

That is only a ?uestion of practice6 At the same time as : am doing that, : have to tune in to a series ofpo$er stations so that the kno$ledge : $ant to transmit is ready to be NconnectedO6

*ne of the troubles, and this is a great difficulty, is that once you get into the aura of the medium youhave slackened your vibrations do$n, so that you are gradually cutting yourself off from the vibrations

of the $orld of spirit to $hich you are normally accustomed6 The threads that hold you become

attenuated and, unless you have practised very diligently, they snap6

#ou can maintain contact $ith the physical $orld and lose the contact $ith the $orld of spirit6 So,

$hilst : have the mastery over the body of the medium, at the same time : have to learn to retain my


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connections $ith all those po$er houses $hich supply me $ith the information : $ant to transmit to

your $orld6 That information is in record form, actually prepared, so that $hen : desire to tap one

source the line is kept open for me6

:n that : am assisted by many here, so that there is no interference6 For there are attracted many

thousands to such a gathering as this, all trying to make an opportunity of registering themselves, or

else attracted out of curiosity, or else Eokers $ho $ant to play tricks, or else those $ho are organised totry and interfere $ith us ) and there is an organisation6

Also there are brought here those $ho do not believe that it is possible to communicate $ith your $orldso that they can see it is true6 7e have as much trouble in our $orld as you have in yours, because there

are a lot of people $ho do not believe they are NdeadO, and there are those $ho kno$ that but do not

kno$ you can reach the $orld of matter6

All those others $ho help me are at $ork all the time to make sure : can receive the message6 :f : am to

talk to you about, for eGample, the failure of the 9hurches and all institutional religion, all that

kno$ledge is already prepared, for $e kno$ eGactly $hat $e think about the failure of the 9hurches6The line is kept openI : tune in ) or plug in, to use your phraseology ) and it pours through me and

through the medium6

:t is very complicated and there is a lot of $ork attached to it, and many have to labour arduously so

that you can get this message6 That should enable you to understand $hat : mean $hen : say : am only

an instrument6 That is all : am ) an instrument of this higher po$er as it seeks to use me, as it seeks touse all of you6

-ery, very rarely, something goes $rong6 Perhaps they have not allo$ed for the climatic conditions,

perhaps one of the engineers ) if you like to call them such ) has not calculated properly, and the linesnaps6 That has happened, and : have to plug in or tune in to another source that is $aiting there6 There

is al$ays another onestanding by in case one breaks do$n6

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Thanks for posting that , in its depth it also indicates the dangers of playing and ho$ easy it may befor someone to reach a state $here the information only came from their o$n subconcious mind6

ence, as $as done $ith Silver ;irch, the need for those physically present to very carefully test the
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spirits, another parctice $hich very fe$ seem to follo$ properly T5s 9*S9 are a very good eGample

as no one ver does this Eob properly $hen you listen to the seance recordings, indeed the HspiritsH seem

to rarely allo$ much ?uestioningB6

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Admin wrote:Thanks for posting that , in its depth it also indicates the dangers of playing

and ho$ easy it may be for someone to reach a state $here the information only came fromtheir o$n subconcious mind6 ence, as $as done $ith Silver ;irch, the need for those

physically present to very carefully test the spirits, another parctice $hich very fe$ seem to

follo$ properly T5s 9*S9 are a very good eGample as no one ver does this Eob properly

$hen you listen to the seance recordings, indeed the HspiritsH seem to rarely allo$ much?uestioningB6

1im

6666$hich begs the ?uestion ) $hy do people pay to listen to such nonsense8

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by iceblueon Sat Apr 3D, 033= /0(>> pm

mac wrote:"My guide only does the trance work,rarely does he let anyone else take

control.One of the cheeky children comes thru sometimes,complaining they dont let him

speak enough.I did think this young fella was part of my imagination - ego- whatever youwant to call it, until one of my sitters told me she has him on film,he paid her a visit so

she thought she would record it,he always wears a tu to circle!#year old in a tu

lol$sure enough he has the tu on."



+day mate,is eGactly as i stated,this young fella has been thru a fe$ times,he is a circle guide he has

stated he is not my guide but a helper of the physical group,he paid one of the sitters a visit and shecaught him on camera6e looks about /0 inchs tall on the footage,theres also some unpleasant creatures

as $ell,freaked her out a bit,a fe$ ppl i have sat $ith he has made himself kno$n6:ts his Eob to keep

everyone happy,bit of a Eoker6The footage $ould be of an apparition type figure as no medium $asbeing used at the time it could not be materialiJation,but still pretty good6:am not sure $hat else i can

tell you,i thought it $as my subconscious,turns out he has sho$n himself to more than Eust me69ool

huh uncan

iceblue

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by macon Sat Apr 3D, 033= /(0C pm

ice)lue wrote:

mac wrote:"My guide only does the trance work,rarely does he let anyone else

take control.One of the cheeky children comes thru sometimes,complaining theydont let him speak enough.I did think this young fella was part of my

imagination - ego- whatever you want to call it, until one of my sitters told me

she has him on film,he paid her a visit so she thought she would record it,he

always wears a tu to circle!#year old in a tu lol$sure enough he has the tu

on."



+day mate,is eGactly as i stated,this young fella has been thru a fe$ times,he is a circle

guide he has stated he is not my guide but a helper of the physical group,he paid one of thesitters a visit and she caught him on camera6e looks about /0 inchs tall on the

footage,theres also some unpleasant creatures as $ell,freaked her out a bit,a fe$ ppl i have

sat $ith he has made himself kno$n6:ts his Eob to keep everyone happy,bit of a Eoker6The

footage $ould be of an apparition type figure as no medium $as being used at the time itcould not be materialiJation,but still pretty good6:am not sure $hat else i can tell you,i

thought it $as my subconscious,turns out he has sho$n himself to more than Eust me69ool

huh uncan

huh6666raised more ?uestions than it5s ans$ered uncan

: don5t understand and can5t figure $hat form the camera captured ) or $hat the other entitiesaccompanying him are either ) :5m surprised nobody else picked up on this from your original posting6

9urious6 So $hat do your group members think8

:5d love to hear more please8


mac

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by iceblueon Sat Apr 3D, 033= //(3/ pm

The image $as captured on a mobile phone,in normal lighting6:t looks like he is doing a tap dance in a

$hite tuG6e appears to be /0 inches tall,you can make him out ?uite $ell,the sitter $as interested in spirit

photography,so $e think he $ent to have his pic taken6She got a bit of phenomena one day upon

returning home from $ork so she started snapping6#ou kno$ in star $ars,the holographic images that

R00 puts out,i $ould describe it similar to that6+roup members $ere not really fussed about it,it $as more confirmation of his presence $ithin our

group6

: did not make a copy of it,i $as going to,but the sitters father fell ill,she $asnt sure if she $ould makecircle so i told her to stay at home and look after her dad,she never returned to sit,the footage i believe

$as sent to that Fontana bloke for study6Aud at $oodlands also sa$ this footage6

Altho a circle guide appears on the footage,it really has nothing to do $ith my mediumship,it $as themediumship of the sitter6

The other entities belonged to her,i did not recogniJe any others,one lo$ vibration $anted a pic taken

obviously bit ugly,beast looking type thing,all you can do is feel sorry for it,and give it compassion andlove6

: think the most eGciting part of it all is kno$ing this young fella is not from my head,i trust $hat he

says a bit more no$&

e has given details of his earthly life but nothing i can verify6: realiJed one thing after all this,Spirit can be photographedKrecorded if they $ant to be6uncan
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:nteresting, because in Lis5s deep trance she $as totally overshado$ed by her guides and you could

clearly distinguish the outline and look of them, often appearing that Lis had completely changed shape

the circle room $as in dim red lightB6

:ts no$ 0D years since : listened to the recordings, $hich $ere copied over to cassette but : $as

impressed $ith the ?uality and nature of the recordings6 It (as also interestin) that s*irit (ould edit

out some con+ersations b not recordin) them and on one occasion the actuall recorded atotall different trance communication to that (hich occured in the room-

: remember the discussions that took place then6 ;y linking those ideas to $hat : have learned sinceand looking at your thoughts : believe that $hat you suggest is ?uite right6 That some part of the

mediums mind remains involved, indeed : think that if the medium has a very strong opinion on an

issue it $ill appear6 9ontroversially : believe $e see this clearly $hen abortion appears as a subEect,some trance mediums bring forth violent opposition others are neutral and not at all Eudgemental6 There

is a very clear division of opinion about $hen the Spirit enters the body $ith many spiritualists saying

at birth and others suggesting different times6 :t appears to me that this is the one period in life $here

there has been a little pre planning consciously or unconsciously by those physical parentsB so : thinkit $ould be at the most beneficil time for the spirit involved to learn that lesson they chose6 Looking at

this : cannot believe that $hatever the parents choose at this time is harmful to Spirit5s plan6

: raise this to indicate the problem Eust in trance $here it is necessary to carefully evaluate the

information and decide upon the value of the material6 ?ually the $orth of the spirits need to be

checked are they real or giving $hat appears to be misinformation6 : have to say this is eGactly the case$ith avid Thompson and 7illiam 9harles 9ad$ell, $here the information given on his eGistence is

$rong and the material he gives can include potentially harmful advice6 avid is also interesting

because he uses his martial arts training to link into trance6 : am a$are of a fe$ HchannellersH $ho link

this $ay rather than the traditional meditation approach6 : don5t kno$ if anyone has any thoughts onthis methodology8

*f course in any trance $e also have the decision to make, is the person deliberately making up the

communication6 Alternatively by $hatever means they change their consciousness are they

inadvertantly accessing a multiple personality or a seperate part of their o$n consciousness $e shouldbe a$are that certain mental conditions can possibly be triggered by our $ork and the voices people

hear are their o$nB remember in serious multiple personality cases physical features and health

conditions can appear and disappear6 Then $e may Eust have someone $ho is so uncontrolled goinginto trance that they are $illing to let anything in $hatever it may do6 :n the modern, learn trance in a

day $orkshops, thats a real risk6

So entering this minefield, ho$ do $e evaluate this, in honesty : think it is by very tight ?uestioning of

the Spirits that appear6 :t is essential to Eudge the $orth of ho$ they appear and $hat they say and do6 :t

is my understanding that, for eGample, 7arren 9aylor5s purported 9hild +uide loves to smash thingsup6 For the life of me : cannot see ho$ this relates to either a $ise spiritual being or even one that is

really appropriate to help us carry the message of survival6

: have also heard it propounded that the intellectual capacity of the medium is a limiting factor to $hat

can be brought through and the $ay it $ill be presented6 The communicators $ill tend to gravitate to

$hatever they can $ork $ith and spirit $ill recognise that $ith an appropriate match up6


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9learly part of the Eob is also to kno$ the medium involved and his value system and ethics if this is

actually possible as superficially many can look greatB6 :f truly like attracts like then a medium $ho is

prepared to enhance his abilities and make unreal claims is likely to, if he is really $orking $ith spirit,attract a similar spirit personality6 :f there are reservations about the medium then it is likely that the

communications need even more careful checking6

:t is a fascinating ?uestion to look at and over history Spiritualism has not done it consistently $ell6

Many people have reEected our movement because the claims, that trance and physical mediums have

been bringing great ones through, are not matched to the intelligence and style of theircommunications6 *n that subEect : ran into a rather sympathetic piece from a 1esuit Priest about

Spiritualism, a erbert Thurston in /==>, $ho : understand used to communicate $ith Maurice

;arbanell6 e makes it clear that had the material brought through by Spiritualists from supposed greatintelligences, even from the very earliest days and H;enEamin FranklinH, better matched the type of

?uality that should have been eGpected from these evolved one5s then he and many others may have

embraced the movement6 :ndeed a $riter in the @e$ #ork times made a similar comment to Thurston


So you are right to ask , if the Spirits are talking to us it is a necessity that $e evaluate, consider and

discern before accepting6


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