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“TurboCat” Technique for Acute & Non-Acute Limb Ischemic Patients Kumar Madassery, MD Director, Advanced Vascular & Interventional Radiology Fellowship Director, CLI Program & IVC Filter Clinic Twitter: @kmadass

TurboCat” Technique for Acute · Costs The average cost of ICU admission per patient →$31,679 ± 65,867. - $48,744 per survivor to discharge & $61,783 per survivor at 1 year

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Page 1: TurboCat” Technique for Acute · Costs The average cost of ICU admission per patient →$31,679 ± 65,867. - $48,744 per survivor to discharge & $61,783 per survivor at 1 year

“TurboCat” Technique for Acute & Non-Acute Limb Ischemic

Patients

Kumar Madassery, MDDirector, Advanced Vascular & Interventional

Radiology Fellowship

Director, CLI Program & IVC Filter Clinic

Twitter: @kmadass

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Disclosure

Speaker name: Kumar Madassery

.................................................................................

I have the following potential conflicts of interest to report:

x Consulting- Penumbra, Cook, Abbott, Philips,Cardiva

Employment in industry

Stockholder of a healthcare company

Owner of a healthcare company

Other(s)

I do not have any potential conflict of interest

Page 3: TurboCat” Technique for Acute · Costs The average cost of ICU admission per patient →$31,679 ± 65,867. - $48,744 per survivor to discharge & $61,783 per survivor at 1 year

What’s the Premise?

- Whether patient is presenting as Acute Non-threatened Limb or Non-Acute Limb:

→”Long CTO’s” can mostly consist of thrombus between the caps.

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Presumed area

of clot

CAP

CAP

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What do we usually do?- Acute

→Cross lesion and place lysis catheters

→ Drip as routine and bring back for treatment

- Non-Acute:

→Cross the CTO→atherectomy/balloon dilate and possible Stent/DCB

→In this method, we determine our final intervention based on the ENTIRE CTO length

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What’s the Proposition??

- If wire cross the occlusion luminally (wire test)…

→Mechanical Aspiration initially with Cat8 (”Cat”)

→ Followed by Laser atherectomy of underlying lesion if present

(“Turbo”)

→Then can perform final Intervention

Page 7: TurboCat” Technique for Acute · Costs The average cost of ICU admission per patient →$31,679 ± 65,867. - $48,744 per survivor to discharge & $61,783 per survivor at 1 year

What’s the Premise?

- This unmasks underlying lesion, shorter than expected

- Laser can ablate/pulverize thrombus- (”Limb Salvage Following Laser-Assisted Angioplasty for Critical Limb Ischemia:Results of the LACI Multicenter Trial”Laird J, Zeller T, Gray BH, Sheinert D, Et al. J Endov Therapy. 13(1), 1-11)

Page 8: TurboCat” Technique for Acute · Costs The average cost of ICU admission per patient →$31,679 ± 65,867. - $48,744 per survivor to discharge & $61,783 per survivor at 1 year

Why Single Session?

- Reduce invasiveness and inpatient hospitalization

- Significant costs & morbidities with inpatient stays

- The risks of TPA, are still significant

- More patients with relative or absolute contraindications to CDT

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Costs

The average cost of ICU admission per patient → $31,679 ± 65,867.

- $48,744 per survivor to discharge & $61,783 per survivor at 1 year

(”Cost Analysis of the Very Elderly Admitted to Intensive Care Units” Chin-Yee N, D’Egidio G, Thavorn K, Heyland D, Kyeremanteng K. Crit Care 2017 16;21(1):109)

- ALI CDT tx in one study stated as ~$38,000

(“Clinical outcomes and cost-effectiveness of initialtreatment strategies for nonembolic acute limbischemia in real-life clinical settings” Lurie F, Vaidya V, Comerota A. JVS. Vol 6, No 1)

Page 10: TurboCat” Technique for Acute · Costs The average cost of ICU admission per patient →$31,679 ± 65,867. - $48,744 per survivor to discharge & $61,783 per survivor at 1 year

Case 1

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➢ 65yo Male

- 3 weeks of increasing right lower extremity pain and numbness

- Motor intact

- Patient reported prior ½ block claudication with intermittent rest pain

- Due to some neurologic concerns MRI brain showed some punctate infarcts.

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6mm

Supera

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Case 2

Page 17: TurboCat” Technique for Acute · Costs The average cost of ICU admission per patient →$31,679 ± 65,867. - $48,744 per survivor to discharge & $61,783 per survivor at 1 year

- Pt with full metal jacket stenting of L SFA 18 months ago

- Presents with subacute worsening of LLE foot pain

- Transferred to our institution for Treatment

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In Stent Re-stenosis (ISR)- PRE

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First Pass Cat8 OTW

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Second Pass-Cat8 Wire

PulledPulling back

under Aspiration

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ISR Thrombus

Would TPA Lysis dissolve all of this???

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ISR- Post 2.0 Turbo Laser

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Case 3

Page 24: TurboCat” Technique for Acute · Costs The average cost of ICU admission per patient →$31,679 ± 65,867. - $48,744 per survivor to discharge & $61,783 per survivor at 1 year
Page 25: TurboCat” Technique for Acute · Costs The average cost of ICU admission per patient →$31,679 ± 65,867. - $48,744 per survivor to discharge & $61,783 per survivor at 1 year
Page 26: TurboCat” Technique for Acute · Costs The average cost of ICU admission per patient →$31,679 ± 65,867. - $48,744 per survivor to discharge & $61,783 per survivor at 1 year
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Adjunctive Techniques

• Sometimes proximal stenosis needs pre-ballooning (prefer 3-4mm balloon)

• Contrast column helps visualize the aspiration

• Can instill TPA for 10min across the lesion

• Some have used EPD conjunctively

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Summary- Increasing outpatient treatments for even the most

complex issues such as ALI and Decreasing the length of vessel interventions has multifaceted benefits

- Changing our Tx algorithms to single session management of Acute or Non-Acute Limb Ischemia is

one such opportunity

- “TurboCat” technique can result in Cost savings, patient comfort and reduction in comorbidities.

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Thank you

Kumar Madassery, MD708-359-1047

[email protected]@kmadass

@vir_rush