VO /CARBORTDRATE/CADROIT CONESCG 1S

18 August 1955

Date, Time, and Place of Meeting: 17 August 1955, 1930-2230, CARBORIERATE l e apt.

Presents a.(77_:3 b. CARBOHYDRATE

1. This was the first meeting with CARBOHYDRATE since he returned tome

leave. After the usual amenities 4mtemix (pictures--he is a camera fan),

GARBO delivered the following material and oral reports:

a. Forty-one CADROIT contact reports on visits by Spitselverpflichtete

(most prepared by Ohioan). CARBO noted the drop in visits to CADROIT

by such DER individuals: only ten Spitzelverpflichtete visited during

the first ten days of the current month. This is considerably below

earlier averages. Since the numbers of Spitselverpflichtete who have

fled to 4est :Berlin has increased during the same period, the explanation

seems to be found in the increasing fear of the SFS generated as a result

of the recant heavy pen4ties, agent trials, etc. For CART scrutiny, etc.

b. Copy of letter re the CARCARANA 2 divorce written by the latterls

lawyer, to the Frankfurt cowrt.requieting a hearing on the results of

CARCABANi t s interrogation in the =before 18 Aug., which is stated to

be the dm, CARCARANA is to fly to America. The results of CARCARANAls

interrogation are not yet known (tIo file is in trankit from the DDR court

to the Fran court).

o. Results of various traces requested earlier. Par El -1d. Two saaples of letter, sent by Mitarbeiter in the DrR to CADRDIT,

in answer to C je earlier request. Attached. In one case (letter mailed

from Ha/1) the CADROIT Reformat, Toupits, had requested the MI to secumi

Info xi certain administrative regulations after his return to the DDR and

mail tbs answer to a CADROIT address which was than given the Mk. The

MA doss not live in Halle, where the letter waa,..pooted. In this connection

CARBO gave a description of how the CADROTf addrese/mail box system works

and who in the post office is mote of details of the system. This descript-ion is outlined belew(SAA Pati-m-S).

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e. GARBO noted Kaiser's via. to Berlin on 16 Aug. for briefing

wr Yersin had moved svothly.

f. Ohlsen had prepared a full report on llprau, Tietse, St al. which

had been delivered to RENARD(for transmittal to C:

g. UDELL had answered in answer to GARBO l a query that nsne of the

present CADROIT IlL were forner17 connected wl th CANON.

h. CAM noted a number of personnel changes'which had taken place recently,

Dr. Wolf leaves as of 1 Aug (forced to take official position'as*131Pere or lose pension rights-..will beccme.Juetiaien inCharlottenburg Amtigericht), Former Aaterichter fnu Prodehlwill take his place.

Frau Ahrens left to join husband in BR. She will be replaced byFrau tin treurer.

Herr und Frau Fits leave as of 1 Sept. They came into large inheritance.

Zander left as of 1 And to be judge in Sosialamt. Kunse will take

his place temporarily. .

Fragebogen on all new employees to come as soon as theyare typed.

i. Pesch sod wife had a serious car accident. A CAIROY1 VW was damaged.

2. CAM gave the following answers to queries based on the recent review

of the filo maintenance, .

a. The list of persona who work in registry earlier given by GARBO

is accurate (Frau. von Bo., Fri Friedrich, frau Adler, Fri Steinioke). No

man works there.

b. Are the files which used to be kept on the third floor now in

the registry? These were not really files (Alden) but "Besuchervermerkeo

(contact reports re all of the thousands of monthly Webs= visits).of visitors

No true names/are included. These copious reports are now in room No. 17

on the second,rlooriwiMith has the same sort of secmrity locks as the

registryOnly-Ebriich: end-Fran Hesse' have keyWAOthe AMmtlil.Whfaite

not kept in the building - it nights but are card on their persons at all

, times. The secretaries can enter the room durim,.; the day, but always under

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the supervision/observation of either Ehrich or nesse. The contact reportsed

are voluminous and are ordeutchronologically,i.s., there is no special*

guide Or system ire indicating which needle in this haystack might offer

usefUl information. Secretaries bent upon learning BA identities can learn

them far more easily through their work with the Referenten mdilumhus

tiewoola than through attempting any art of analysis) of the visitor

contact reports. Secretaries and Reierenten can remove particular

contact reports from the room.

c. The voluminous press section files are now kept in rooms fics 1 end

3. CAM states they are nct espicially protected since they have no

special security interest. Dm sensitivity. A night watchman could gain

access to than without trouble, but little would be lost thmembmp there

if he were really an SFS Spitsel.

• d. CARBO noted almost all Referenten now have steel set's in their

own rooms as a result of an installation program started long ago. One

or two new safes are installdd every month. The Refereaten keep certain

files in their own rooms. These are (1) Bezirk and Kreis files (not

generally of the :.4hest sensitivity) and (2) files which are being

worked on. The latter may include almost any sort of CAIRO= file.

These nReferenten files" are kept in the steel safes which have been

installed.

el. There are no ales in the newlyacquired building opposite the

midabmisix old bldg. apart frmaCACHARLDE files (low sensitivity, germrally)

and wRsferenten files". .

f. The satarbeiter Akten Eartei" (covernames only-aspirate from

the true name file kept in room No. 14) is not in any way mime:limit=

in with the general name file (Allgesseize Miran xertei).

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g. The log book in the registry is still maintained. Secretaries

drawing files from the registry must sign out for them. There are certain

.exceptions to this requirements GARBO, Ftl.Foerster, Prl. Thiel, Hildebrandt,

Ladell, for example. What did CARBO think of the idea that Referentan sholld

be required to sign lists of files to be withdrawn before the files could

be issued to the secretaries? In addition to disturbing the normal CADROIT

working methods to a substantial degree, this would also impair 'secretarial

morale by considering thma as otincleast. It would also provide little

real security in itself, felt GARBO, since the Referenten ,Wald not screen,

lists presented to them by their secretaries for signathre very carefully..:

due to relationship of trust, etc. .

3. <::_=Irequested list of all personnel who have been issued pistols,

including type, number, and caliber of all pistols issued canon'. GARBO had

not heard of ,am, arr6ngments earlier laid on to backstop the use of pistols; he

will cheek this last point with UDELL, however.

4. E_=)noted monthly report had referred to "Stills III', and queried re

the number of CADROIT MA who were "Stills 1m. (CARBO had earlier defined a

Still. MA as one which did not know that his name had been registered with

CADROIf as an MA, might Object to registration due to fear of becoming known

asIkgen1P, etc.) GARBO did not know precisely, but felt the number of Still. MA• quite

was/low. He thought info in. this regard might have earlier been submitted to

"the other Dienstelle", but would check with LUAULand report.

5. CARBO gave 'following description of the. CADROIT mail boX SYstml which

he had gotten from Froelich after one recent review this matters

a. Three persons, one for each of the "Oberpostdirektionen" in question

(West Berlin, Braunschleig, and Hamburg),know aik the identities of all of

the post boxes assigned to CADROIT within the cites in their jurisdiction._

These persons also either kr ow or have access to all of the fictitious

• addresses in their cities which are used by CADROIT. These persons are;

the security men for the Oberpostdirektionen (Sicherheitsbeauttragte;Postreb

ohne Verwendung in Amt). he identities aret

OFD Berlin.—Obstrat Pau SCHURZ (closely connected with Dr. Maurer ofCADROIT, a lest MA)

OFD Braunschweig—Fbetrat Stute

OPD Bamburg—wPostrat GARLEPP.

b. All letters from MA go to W. Berlin addresses; only control letbera

contained in propaganda letters for infiltration into the DOR are isommmi

im sent to addresses in the Hamburg and Braunschwieg jurisdictions. he

only exception to this rule is Hansa!, who receives letters from MA through

a Hamburg address.

c. There are 19 branch post offices in I. Berlin; each has two post

boxes assigned to CADRDIT. The head of each branch knows that the boxes

are connected with CADROIT. The addresses used are fictitious. When a letter

arrives in the branch, the sorting clerks, realizing there is no such addresa,08

consult a list of addresststich is available to all clerks and re which clerks

are briefed. If the address is an the list, the letter is put into one

of the CADROIT mail boxes (designated by number only). The West Berlin

boxes are serviced weekly by Froelich and Pesch. In large branch post

offices such as Steglitz and Si 11, there is a special man in charge of'

post boxes; he knows that the two boxes in his office are connected with

CADROIT. UM= About 25 letters arrive at CADROIT in this manner each

month. Froelich states that the clerks in the Hamburg and Braunschweig

post offices do not know that the CAMOIT post poxes are conneoted with

CADROff; theamimakezzukbusthmzesueseetdmetxm many of the clerks in Berlin

::AfTd. CARBO/FROELICS/LADEU feel the system is so broken up and decentralized

thatthat risk/ef an SS penetration of the post office could cause CADROTr

real trouble is quite low. CARBO did not know how the CADROIT system with

the popt office had originally been set up. Did any other organ. use the eyeteml,

mustraalize the connection, now, however.

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CAR30 did not know specifically of any others, but presumed tat some others

do (ZIPA3R, etc).

6. GARBO answered an earlier query by C:_:]oy stating that banks have

an absolute duty to mainiein secrecy of savings and checking accounts against

everyone, with only one vary limited exception: the Statrichter in a criminal

process can ot:min access, but then only by a formal decision of the court

(non—secret) in a particular case. This means as a practical matter, thus,

tint the mama method could he used only to secure additional proof once a

public trial had begun, and not to check in Cases of limited suspeicion oror do

as part of a fTishing expidition" • Neither SfV nor Abt. V can/get access alone.

7. C _:lrequested a revised floor plan of both buildings to reflect changes

after the move into the new building. COMMINTr . The purpose of this request is

to get background into fora provocation operation or procedure to be established

within CADRO1T for the purpose Of identifying staff members who may be working

far the SFS. Since other possible methods of guarding against unauthorizedrequire

access by Spitzel within the staff would ta greater a- lesser extent/changse inadditionalhe the

SADHOIT's basic modus operandi, provocation appears tams major/approach to

protection of CADROTT security which mammas could be followed with a relatively

small amaanotrocr investment in time, money, etc. Provocation appears particularlycertain of

well suited to CORM, since/the project's tavirsamereaszonseeleadazicssampozatdmi

asembaincalasena methods tend to lull a possible SFS penetration into a falseP1AAO

sense of security. Although firm prailmeata must await more technical info, some, .r4rw

*Ix ideas suggest themselves immedisaelyt

4ave RENARD, UDELL, Or GARBO dictate letter re new penetration ofNormannenstr. to suspected secretary (or as routine chick) Secretarywould to requested to flmke Idtdamineemitanahoemagetsrc covering letterend file to BZV immedtataly, since person dictating letter sudden)

uilat traLverburni2iti4 tfgegbiegehnactiono of .seT Coe have file

*Mount camera in wall . oflIpm 14 where VA true names.ervaept in safe.Camera records whoever enters room during few days ' when door to thez%ean, normally closed; is left open due to paint job, etc.

4 ilore elaborate ideas estiablish new staffer in a room by himself

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where he screens files for special purpose not announced to staff inmanner resdniscent . of establishment of CADROVN within CADR012--secrsto-ies are required to bring him files as work progresses for screening—.camera mounted in wall records who attempts read files entitledSams 0 Pbr Special Uses", etc., which are carelessly left out inthe open when the staffer has to leave temporarily. Or camera isActuated by opening the door of the staffer's special safe which iscarelessly left slightly ajar during his absence. This could bea continuing operation 'within CADROIT for purposes of testing NAas wallas staffers.

--Silent, secret electric alarawhichrings at police when door ofsafe containing MA identities is opened. Door to room left Open for

• painting, eta. This alarm would seem to be a good rumor to spreadin CADROIT even tkomx though no alarm is actual,* installed.

The floor plan and similar info to be acquired as required sktindoemaisolzis intended to be used as background info for a provocation operationalong the above lines.

NEXT NESTING; 24 Aug 1955, 1930, Sams