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Welcome to the ACAP resident meeting May 18, 2008 New York, New York

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Welcome to the ACAPresident meeting

May 18, 2008New York, New York

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5.12 Earthquake, Wenchuan

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We'll make you jump!

Lanjing Zhang, MD, MSChair, ACAP resident committee

Department of PathologyMount Sinai School of Medicine

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Resources

BOOK• Iserson's Getting Into A Residency: A Guide for

Medical Students. Kenneth V. Iserson, M.D. ISBN: 1-883620-09-0 Softcover, 627 pp.,

WEB• www.nrmp.org/• www.mitbbs.com/pc/index.php?id=USMedEdu• www.mitbbs.com/bbsdoc/medicalcareer.html• www.usmleforum.com• www.valuemd.com ...

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Outline

• Resources and timeline• Application preparation

– PS and CV– Program selection (type, subspecialty)

• Interview day• Post-interview• Ranking list

– Program types, specialties

• pre-match& postmatch scramble

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Timeline

• Now-09/2008 application preparation• 9/2008-1/2009 application• 10/2009-1/2009 interviews• 1/2009-3/2009 ranking and the match• 3/2009-6/2009 study for step 3& enjoy!

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Application prep: EARLY

• Personal statement– Why do you like the specialty– Why to take me– What are my qualifications– What would I bring to the program– One PS for each specialty

• CV– Not much format trick– Enhance it by US clinical Experience (USCE) or

observership

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Application prep: LOR

• Who: the one who really knows you• Who: Chinese? No more than one LOR• Who: subspecialty, same better• Who: MD preferred, but one PhD is fine• MUST read it, though you waived the right • Dean’s letter: yes, if possible• How many: 4, if possible

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Apply: Program selection

• The more, the better• Geography: NYS, East coast• Types:

– University 1/3, More if you’ve research bkgd– University affiliated 1/3, – community 1/3

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Apply: Program selection

• Specialty:– IM,FM less competitive– Peds less competitive– Pathology hard, still doable– Anesthesiology – Surgery more competitive– Derm, Radio, Ophthalmology most competitive

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Apply: Program selection

• Who may consider Pathology– Hard working– Go into detail– Photographic memorization– Research background– Surgery background-Surgical pathology– Internal medicine background-Clinical

pathology

• Other specialties: ask your group leader

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Interview

• Means you’re qualified on paper• Everyone is almost equal• Goal of the program

– Examine your personality& language skills– Examine if you fits the program– Examine the integrity of your application

• Goal of the applicant– Examine your PD, PC, and working environment– Examine if you fit the program

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Interview prep

• Scheduling, prefer Nov and Dec– First inv, least interesting program– Last inv, most interesting program

• ASK your alumni& friends about programs• BE NICE to program coordinator• Attire and accessory:

– Black/navy suit, skirts preferred for ladies– Ask salesperson for advice, conservative style– Gum, CV, portfolio, money, itinerary, water

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Interview day

• BE YOURSELF, SHINE YOURSELF• Your answers

– Tell me about yourself? clear and informative– Why our program? strengths, alumni, location– Plan/career goal? be honest to yourself– Every experience/paper may be asked

• Your questions– What are strength and weakness of the program– How are fellowship placement& board pass rate– Ask residents on-call schedule, hours, vacation

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Post-interview day

• Relax, you’re done with a big assignment!• Evaluate the program right after interview• Tour around the hospital• Send thank-you letters• Follow up with program director• Express your interest before the match

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Ranking list

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Ranking list

University AffiliatedHospital

Community Hospital

University Hospital

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University Hospital

• PROS– More fellowship chance and better networking– More education oriented– More famous LOR writer– Some have better infrastructure/environment

• CONS– More competitive to get in, survive& stand out– More arrogant/discrimitive attendings& staff– Probably more research oriented

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Community Hospital

• PROS– Less competitive to get in, survive& stand out– More hand-on experiences– More international, while still has few

arrogant/discrimitive attendings& staff– More practice oriented

• CONS– Fewer fellowship chances– Fewer research opportunities

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The best subspecialty:

• Personality and interest: A choice of lifetime• Salaries: IM to neurosurgery

– Private practice: $200k-800k – Academics: $100k -300k

• Working hours& calls– Pathology, radiol, and derm with fewer calls– Surg with most

• Malpractice/law suits– ObGyn high, derm high, breast surg high

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What program should I rank No. 1

• The one you like most, not the one that most likely takes you

• The best fit for you• Chemistry with PD and other residents• Geographic consideration

– Family, climate, shopping& food

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Pre-match? &^*@%^W#(*$#^&$*

• Take it if it is your dream program• Take it if it is in a hot specialty, like

Pathology, Derm& Radiol• More advantage for program than candidate

• Peace of mind versus dream program• MUST have a contract or letter of intention

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Postmatch scramble

• Very few chances• Most likely from your interviewed program• Most likely from program of connection• How to

– Find out programs of openings– Phone in to confirm and express your interest– Submit CV and PS by email (recently preferred),

fax or personal delivery

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Review

• “GETTING INTO A RESIDENCY” Iserson• Application preparation: BE EARLY BIRD

– PS and CV– Program selection (type, subspecialty)

• Interview day: BE YOURSELF• Post-interview• Ranking list: RANK THE BEST FIT

– Program types, specialties

• pre-match& postmatch scramble

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The Student, Resident& Fellow Committee (SRF)

• Outreach more medical students, CMGs, residents and fellows

• Observership program at NYHQ& Downtown• Residency candidate recommendation• CMG application workshop• CMG pre-residency workshop• How can we help you more?

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Thank you!

• Drs. Lisa Eng, David Zhang, and Henry Chen• Jianjun Zhang, Vice Chair, ACAP SRF• Volunteers: Peter Pan, Xiaoyan Song, Xin

Wang, Hao Zhang, Bo Zhao (alphabetical list)

• Discussion leaders: Ruomei Cai, Biao Lei, Zitao Liu, Runsheng Wang, Yusong Yang, Nan Zhang (alphabetical list)

• MITBBS BMs (Benpu)