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1 What do we measure – and hear – in rooms? by Floyd E. Toole and Allan Devantier Science and technology in the service of art is our business

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What do we measure – and hear – in rooms?. by Floyd E. Toole and Allan Devantier. Science and technology in the service of art is our business. A very quick review of the science of loudspeaker/room/listener interactions. EXAMPLE: A loudspeaker with directivity problems. 10. - PowerPoint PPT Presentation

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What do we measure – and hear – in rooms?

byFloyd E. Toole

andAllan Devantier

Science and technologyin the service of art

is our business

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A very quick review of the science of

loudspeaker/room/listener interactions.

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EXAMPLE:A loudspeaker with directivity problems

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woofer midrange tweeter

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Step One: collect data using the “spinorama”

70 amplitude-response measurements on horizontal and vertical axes

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Step two: process the data

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Predictions of room events from many anechoic measurements

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PREDICTED“ROOM CURVE”

LATE REFLECTIONSEARLY REFLECTIONS

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Real vs. Predicted Room Curves

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From: Toole, JAES 1985This is not new!

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There is a region where the room dominates, and one where the loudspeaker dominates.

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Room LoudspeakerTransition

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For different rooms: fc = Schroeder frequency

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Room LoudspeakerTransition

Small domestic room: 70 m3, RT= 0.4s, fc = 150 Hz

Smallest room ST 202: 125 m3, RT=0.2s fc= 80 Hz

≈ 350 seat cinema: 1900 m3, RT=0.5s fc = 32 Hz

≈ 800 seat cinema: 4200 m3, RT=0.65s fc = 24 Hz

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So, for the rooms in which we are interested:

• The loudspeaker and the screen are the dominant factors over most of the frequency range

• In cinemas standing waves are not a likely problem, except for LFE

• In smaller rooms some means of controlling low-frequency standing waves will be necessary – and there are options.

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What makes this so important?

• From comprehensive anechoic data on loudspeakers it has been possible to:– Predict room curves with good accuracy, and– Predict listener sound quality ratings – when

listening in a room – with good accuracy.

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What was learned?• A flat on-axis response is important. • Both on-axis and off-axis performance must

be smooth – and similar in shape.• Smoothness of the curves – i.e. absence of

resonances – yields higher scores. • 1/20-octave data yield better correlations than

1/3-octave data. Conclusion: fine details are audible.

• Bass performance accounts for about 30% of the factor weighting.

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So, a combination of on- and off-axis anechoic data can be processed by an

algorithm to yield good predictions of sound quality.

But, where do room/house curves fit into this?

Let us examine what it is that we are measuring.

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Measurements in a 125 m3 room – the smallest room included in SMPTE ST 202:2010

Sound power alone is not

enough at HF. We must add

some direct sound to the

prediction.

Anechoicspinorama

6-seataverage

room curve

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Measurements in a 125 m3 room – the smallest room included in SMPTE ST 202:2010

This loudspeaker, although imperfect, has been equaled, but not surpassed,

in double-blind listening tests.

The targets are not appropriate,certainly not for a room that cannot accommodate 30 persons

Anechoicspinorama

6-seataverage

room curve

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A Problem:

A loudspeaker/room combination that is a good example of the “state-of-the-art” in sound reproduction would be degraded by forcing it to meet any of the ISO/SMPTE target room curves.

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Measurements in a 125 m3 room – the smallest room included in SMPTE ST 202:2010

This loudspeaker, is flawed, and it

receives mediocre scores in double-

blind listening tests.

Anechoicspinorama

6-seataverage

room curve

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For known environments it is possible to develop simple predictive algorithms.For typically furnished domestic rooms and home theaters a sum of: 12% listening window (direct sound), 44% early reflections and 44% sound power works well. Different rooms may need different proportions.

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Directivity is a MAJOR factor in what is measured in a room.

• At low and middle frequencies in-room curves are dominated by far off-axis, reflected, sound.

• However at the highest frequencies, the direct sound is likely to be dominant.

• Let us see how this translates to a large cinema.

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This suggests that all that is needed is to turn the bass down and go home

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But, we haven’t corrected for screen loss, and that affects the direct sound from the loudspeaker. We might also wish to compensate for air attenuation. Both of these are known impediments to good sound from loudspeakers, and both can be compensated for.

The predicted (dotted) curve anticipates the

bass rise (reduced DI), but does not

include screen and air

attenuation.

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When we modify the measured steady-state room curve to correct for screen and air attenuations, as shown in the top curves, we get an estimate of the room curve without those losses – that now approximates the predicted curve, which assumed no such losses.

Where did Curve-X come from?

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Interim summary:• A state-of-the-art domestic forward-firing

loudspeaker in a 125 m3 room yields a relatively flat in-room curve.

• A state-of-the-art (1985) cinema loudspeaker in a 5660 m3 room, when compensated for the screen and air attenuation yields a relatively flat in-room curve.

• Both were predicted from direct sound and directivity-index data on the loudspeakers.

• The physical, loudspeaker/screen/room, side of the issue seems to be well understood.

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Why the X curve?• Based on (undocumented) listening tests done in 1971,

with the limited, and limiting hardware and software of the day, it was concluded that a high frequency rolloff in a large room was subjectively preferred. Allen notes: “The reason for the apparently desirable HF droop is not very easy to explain”. And it wasn’t.

• Since then international committees have massaged the “HF droop” to its present forms with no documented subjective evaluations in support of the decisions.

• If a HF droop is necessary, it needs to be demonstrated in 2012, with current hardware, software and scientific methodology.

• At the small room end of the size scale there is no justification, and there is abundant science to show it.

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What is the most basic information we need about a loudspeaker?

• The on-axis, preferably the listening window, performance describing the direct sound. This should be smooth and flat.

• The sound power radiated by the loudspeaker, or

• The directivity index (DI) as a function of frequency. DI is the difference between the sound power and the direct sound. Either of these should be smoothly changing or constant, or a combination of the two.

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In new installations:

• We should be able to obtain these data from loudspeaker manufacturers and,

• If the loudspeakers are to be located behind a screen, the screen attenuation must be known, and

• In large rooms, compensation for air attenuation should be included – this is in standard tables.

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In existing installations:• We will need to measure:

– Direct sound over an appropriate listening window. This will include the on-axis screen attenuation. This curve should be flat and smooth but low-frequency data cannot be trusted because of compromised resolution due to windowing.

– Sound power, as modified by the screen, air attenuation, and absorption at the room boundaries. Only at lower frequencies can this steady-state data be trusted; at higher frequencies corrections will need to be made for at least the screen and air attenuations. This can be done.

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In a few installations:• We need to perform controlled, randomized, blind or

double-blind subjective evaluations.• These evaluations should include program from known,

documented, facilities with traceable pedigree, otherwise we are trapped in the “circle of confusion”. Soundtracks from dubbing stages with 500-seat X-curve equalization need not apply.

• They should include music program and speech, from non-film sources.

• The events should be recorded binaurally, so that listeners elsewhere can share at least the timbral essence of the experience. It is the timbre that is at issue here, not direction and space.

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• Now, moving forward, we need some thorough 2012 technical data on:– loudspeakers, – screens and their interactions with

loudspeakers and baffles, – cinema acoustical treatments, and – in-situ measurements of sufficient detail that

they are not fatally contaminated by acoustical interference effects (i.e. we need many mics in many locations).

• The following are some suggestions – a basis for discussions.

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In-situ measurements – looking back to the Westwood Bruin.

• Three sets of five measurements were made = 15 curves.

• But because of symmetry, only 8 of them were distinctive.

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In-situ measurements – looking back to the Westwood Bruin.

• Three sets of five measurements were made = 15 curves.

• But because of symmetry, only 8 of them were distinctive.

• If we had decided that the measurements were to learn about the loudspeakers, rather than to measure what we think people are hearing, we could have changed one measurement, and acquired 5 more distinctive measurements.

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The mic array

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A ≈ 350 seat assymetrical stadium seating venue

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This is the “scientific” phase

• After we have learned what we can, and have decided on what measurements we wish to move forward with, we can get down to simplifying the process, and to optimizing its application in different venue sizes and geometries.

• But first things first.

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