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W.I.S.E.Wapc& The Newsletter of WIS-E. Family History Society Volume 1, No. 4 Programs by: James K. Jeffrey, program chair, W.I.S.E. Victors Write the History Loyalists in the American Revolution Featuring Laurence "Larry" M. Wilson Saturday, 28 October 2000 1:30 - 4 p.m. The population of the rebellious colonies was divided into thirds: one-third for separation, the Patriots: one-third to remain with the crown, the Loyalists: and one-third who were neutral. This talk will deal with the Loyalists third, what happened to them and the sources to investigate when searching for that miss- ing Loyalist ancestor. Laurence "Larry" M. Wilson was born on the American side of the Canadian border of Canadian parents. Larry is a graduate of Michigan State University. He worked in the geographical field before retiring and was encouraged by his wife, Jean, to undertake a genealogical explora- tion of his family. He was aware he had relatives who were expelled from the newly formed United States during and at the end of the American Revolution. That led to an interest in the Loyalists who `became the honored founders of the other great North American democracy, Canada. Luck of the Irish Featuring Zoe Lappin Saturday, 2 December 2000 1:30 - 4 p.m. Zoe describes herself as strictly an amateur. Always interested in history and her place in it, this interest was piqued after her mother died in 1975 and she inherited her photos. Zoe started out thinking it would be neat to collect photos of as many ancestors as possible and the hobby/obsession took off from there. Her Irish Catholic family, the Savages, seems to have been the primary influence in her personal development; hence it's no surprise that she started her research with (continued on page 30) a Oct-Nov -Dec 2000 DAVID lifcGIBBON: BRITISH SOLDIER FROM SCOTLAND Part 1 of 2 by: Paul Kilburn David McGibbon was one of the earliest post -revolutionary settlers in York County, New Brunswick He obtained a grant for 550 acres in 1784 on the north bank of the St John River just west of Douglas, and some six miles west of Fredericton. In 1789 he received a much smaller land grant for four and one-half acres on an island in the St. John River, just south of his original grant The island is still called McGibbon Island. Born in 1744 near Stirling, Scotland, at the age of 33 he sailed for America on business in 1777 and soon became embroiled in the Revolution. McGibbon was not a loyalist soldier but a Lieutenant in the British Army. He was captured and sent to New York with the loyalists and decided to emigrate to New Brunswick in 1783. He married Ann Drummond soon after he arrived in New Brunswick (Fig. 1 on page 29). She was one of three daughters widow Ann Drummond brought to New Brunswick after the war. Jacobina, the eldest daughter, married Lt Dugald Campbell and lived at the mouth of the Tay, at Taymouth, York County,. In fact both were named after beautiful Loch Tay and the town at its mouth in Scotland, where her father's an cestors had lived. Susan, the youngest daughter, married Captain Archibald McLean and settled on a large farm in Nashwaak, York County.' L McGibbon Beginnings in Scotland Before more is said of David McGibbon's residency in New Brunswick, this paper will explore his life and military career before he came to New Brunswick Many records exist which detail some of his pre -New Brunswick life. Copies of the two letters, written by David to his cousin Alexander McGibbon in Stirling in 1792 and 1795 2 , fill in some of the gaps of this period and provide genealogical background as well. Both letters are copied below in full: [To] "Alexander McGibbon, Writer Sliding, Scotland Frederick 19 Dec 1792 Dear Sandy, It is with pleasure I embrace the ay of a vessel for Great Britian to acknowledge the Receipt of your two letters of the 9th fa te.14 a4 1788 and the 9th April 1792 both of which lay a considerable while in the Post Office at Halifax before tIwy were forwarded to me here and must I suppose have remained there till this moment had th ey not imagined from a letter that came through that Office for me from London piuptdy directed that there was some mistake in the direction of your letters and so sent than to this Office. This Country was (continued on page 29) IN THIS ISSUE: Programs - October, November, December front David McGibbon: British Soldier from Scotland. front Social Life and Customs 26 Message from the President 26 W.I.S.E. Tips 27 New Phone Numbers - DPL 27 WHERE IN IRELAND? 28 New Book Bibliography 30 Mutations (Welsh language) 31 W.I.S.E. Program Schedule 2000/2001 32 W.I.S.E. Vara‘ The Newsletter of W.I.S.E Family History Society Volume 1, No. 4 Programs by: James K. Jeffrey, program chair, W.LS.E. Victors Write the History Loyalists in the American Revolution Featuring Laurence "Larry" M. Wilson Saturday, 28 October 2000 1:30 - 4 p.m. The population of the rebellious colonies was divided into thirds: one-third for separation, the Patriots: one-third to remain with the crown, the Loyalists: and one-third who were neutral. This talk will deal with the Loyalists third, what happened to them and the sources to investigate when searching for that miss- ing Loyalist ancestor. Laurence "Larry" M. Wilson was born on the American side of the Canadian border of Canadian parents. Larry is a graduate of Michigan State University. He worked in the geographical field before retiring and was encouraged by his wife, Jean, to undertake a genealogical explora- tion of his family. lie was aware he had relatives who were expelled from the newly formed United States during and at the end of the American Revolution. That led to an interest in the Loyalists who `became the honored founders of the other great North American democracy, Canada. Luck of the Irish Featuring Zoe Lappin Saturday, 2 December 2000 1:30 - 4 p.m. Zoe describes herself as strictly an amateur. Always interested in history and her place in it, this interest was piqued after her mother died in 1975 and she inherited her photos. Zoe started out thinking it would be neat to collect photos of as many ancestors as possible and the hobby/obsession took off from there. Her Irish Catholic family, the Savages, seems to have been the primary influence in her personal development; hence it's no surprise that she started her research with (continued on page 30) Oct -Nov-Dec 2000 DAVID McGIBBON: BRITISH SOLDIER FROM SCOTLAND Part I of 2 by: Paul Kilburn David McGibbon was one of the earliest post -revolutionary settlers in York County, New Brunswick. He obtained a grant for 550 acres in 1784 on the north bank of the st. John River just west of Douglas, and some six miles west of Fredericton. In 1789 he received a much smaller land . grant for four and one-half acres on an island in the St. John River, just south of his original grant. The island is still called McGibbon Island. Born in 1744 near Stirling, Scotland, at the age of 33 he sailed for America on business in 1777 and soon became embroiled in the Revolution. McGibbon was not a loyalist soldier but a Lieutenant in the British Army. He was captured and sent to New York with the loyalists and decided to emigrate to New Brunswick in 1783. He married Ann Drummond soon after he arrived in New Brunswick (Fig. 1 on page 29). She was one of three d4ughters widow Ann Drummond brought In New Brunswick after the war. Jacobin, th e eldest daughter, married Lt Dugald Campbell and lived at the mouth of the Tay, at Taymouth, York County,. In fact both were named after beautiful Loch Tay and the town at its mouth in Scotland, where her father's ancestors had lived. Susan, the youngest daughter, married Captain Archibald McLean and settled on a large farm in Nashwaak, York County.' L McGibbon Beginnings in Scotland Before more is said of David McGibbon's residency in New Brunswick, this paper will explore his life and military career before he came to New Brunswick. Many records exist which detail some of his pre -New Brunswick life. Copies of the two letters, written by David to his cousin Alexander McGibbon in Stirling in 1792 and 1795 2 , fill in some of the gaps of this period and provide genealogical background as well. Both letters are copied below in full: [ro] "Alexander McGibbon, Writer Stirling, Scotland Frederick 19 Dec 1792 Dear Sandy, It is with pleasure I embrace the op opportunity of a vessel for Great Britian to acknowledge the Receipt of your two letters of the 9th 1788 and the 9th April 1792 both of which lay a considerable while in the Post Office at Halifax before th ey were forwarded to me here and must I suppose have remained there till this moment had th ey not imagined from a letter that came through that Office for me from London properly directed that there was some mistale in the direction of your letters and so sent them to this Office. This Country was (continued on page 29) IN THIS ISSUE: Programs - October, November, December front David McGibbon: British Soldier from Scotland. front Social Life and Customs 26 Message from the President 26 W.I.S.E. Tips 27 New Phone Numbers - DPL 27 WHERE IN IRELAND? 28 New Book Bibliography 30 Mutations (Welsh language) 31 W.I.S.E. Program Schedule 2000/2001 32

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W.I.S.E.Wapc& The Newsletter of WIS-E. Family History Society

Volume 1, No. 4

Programs by: James K. Jeffrey,

program chair, W.I.S.E.

Victors Write the History Loyalists in the American Revolution Featuring Laurence "Larry" M. Wilson

Saturday, 28 October 2000 1:30 - 4 p.m.

The population of the rebellious colonies was divided into thirds: one-third for separation, the Patriots: one-third to remain with the crown, the Loyalists: and one-third who were neutral. This talk will deal with the Loyalists third, what happened to them and the sources to investigate when searching for that miss-ing Loyalist ancestor.

Laurence "Larry" M. Wilson was born on the American side of the Canadian border of Canadian parents. Larry is a graduate of Michigan State University. He worked in the geographical field before retiring and was encouraged by his wife, Jean, to undertake a genealogical explora-tion of his family. He was aware he had relatives who were expelled from the newly formed United States during and at the end of the American Revolution. That led to an interest in the Loyalists who

`became the honored founders of the other great North American democracy, Canada.

Luck of the Irish Featuring Zoe Lappin

Saturday, 2 December 2000 1:30 - 4 p.m.

Zoe describes herself as strictly an amateur. Always interested in history and her place in it, this interest was piqued after her mother died in 1975 and she inherited her photos. Zoe started out thinking it would be neat to collect photos of as many ancestors as possible and the hobby/obsession took off from there. Her Irish Catholic family, the Savages, seems to have been the primary influence in her personal development; hence it's no surprise that she started her research with

(continued on page 30)

a Oct-Nov-Dec 2000

DAVID lifcGIBBON: BRITISH SOLDIER FROM SCOTLAND

Part 1 of 2 by: Paul Kilburn

David McGibbon was one of the earliest post-revolutionary settlers in York County, New Brunswick He obtained a grant for 550 acres in 1784 on the north bank of the St John River just west of Douglas, and some six miles west of Fredericton. In 1789 he received a much smaller land grant for four and one-half acres on an island in the St. John River, just south of his original grant The island is still called McGibbon Island. Born in 1744 near Stirling, Scotland, at the age of 33 he sailed for America on business in 1777 and soon became embroiled in the Revolution. McGibbon was not a loyalist soldier but a Lieutenant in the British Army. He was captured and sent to New York with the loyalists and decided to emigrate to New Brunswick in 1783.

He married Ann Drummond soon after he arrived in New Brunswick (Fig. 1 on page 29). She was one of three daughters widow Ann Drummond brought to New Brunswick after the war. Jacobina, the eldest daughter, married Lt Dugald Campbell and lived at the mouth of the Tay, at Taymouth, York County,. In fact both were named after beautiful Loch Tay and the town at its mouth in Scotland, where her father's ancestors had lived. Susan, the youngest daughter, married Captain Archibald McLean and settled on a large farm in Nashwaak, York County.'

L McGibbon Beginnings in Scotland

Before more is said of David McGibbon's residency in New Brunswick, this paper will explore his life and military career before he came to New Brunswick Many records exist which detail some of his pre-New Brunswick life. Copies of the two letters, written by David to his cousin Alexander McGibbon in Stirling in 1792 and 17952, fill in some of the gaps of this period and provide genealogical background as well. Both letters are copied below in full:

[To] "Alexander McGibbon, Writer Sliding, Scotland

Frederick 19 Dec 1792 Dear Sandy,

It is with pleasure I embrace the ay of a vessel for Great Britian to acknowledge the Receipt of your two letters of the 9th fa te.14 • a4 1788 and the 9th April 1792 both of which lay a considerable while in the Post Office at Halifax before tIwy were forwarded to me here and must I suppose have remained there till this moment had they not imagined from a letter that came through that Office for me from London piuptdy directed that there was some mistake in the direction of your letters and so sent than to this Office. This Country was

(continued on page 29)

IN THIS ISSUE:

Programs - October, November, December front David McGibbon: British Soldier from Scotland. front Social Life and Customs 26 Message from the President 26 W.I.S.E. Tips 27 New Phone Numbers - DPL 27 WHERE IN IRELAND? 28 New Book Bibliography 30 Mutations (Welsh language) 31 W.I.S.E. Program Schedule 2000/2001 32

W.I.S.E. Vara‘ The Newsletter of W.I.S.E Family History Society

Volume 1, No. 4

Programs by: James K. Jeffrey,

program chair, W.LS.E.

Victors Write the History Loyalists in the American Revolution Featuring Laurence "Larry" M. Wilson

Saturday, 28 October 2000 1:30 - 4 p.m.

The population of the rebellious colonies was divided into thirds: one-third for separation, the Patriots: one-third to remain with the crown, the Loyalists: and one-third who were neutral. This talk will deal with the Loyalists third, what happened to them and the sources to investigate when searching for that miss-ing Loyalist ancestor.

Laurence "Larry" M. Wilson was born on the American side of the Canadian border of Canadian parents. Larry is a graduate of Michigan State University. He worked in the geographical field before retiring and was encouraged by his wife, Jean, to undertake a genealogical explora-tion of his family. lie was aware he had relatives who were expelled from the newly formed United States during and at the end of the American Revolution. That led to an interest in the Loyalists who

`became the honored founders of the other great North American democracy, Canada.

Luck of the Irish Featuring Zoe Lappin

Saturday, 2 December 2000 1:30 - 4 p.m.

Zoe describes herself as strictly an amateur. Always interested in history and her place in it, this interest was piqued after her mother died in 1975 and she inherited her photos. Zoe started out thinking it would be neat to collect photos of as many ancestors as possible and the hobby/obsession took off from there. Her Irish Catholic family, the Savages, seems to have been the primary influence in her personal development; hence it's no surprise that she started her research with

(continued on page 30)

Oct-Nov-Dec 2000

DAVID McGIBBON: BRITISH SOLDIER FROM SCOTLAND

Part I of 2 by: Paul Kilburn

David McGibbon was one of the earliest post-revolutionary settlers in York County, New Brunswick. He obtained a grant for 550 acres in 1784 on the north bank of the st. John River just west of Douglas, and some six miles west of Fredericton. In 1789 he received a much smaller land .grant for four and one-half acres on an island in the St. John River, just south of his original grant. The island is still called McGibbon Island. Born in 1744 near Stirling, Scotland, at the age of 33 he sailed for America on business in 1777 and soon became embroiled in the Revolution. McGibbon was not a loyalist soldier but a Lieutenant in the British Army. He was captured and sent to New York with the loyalists and decided to emigrate to New Brunswick in 1783.

He married Ann Drummond soon after he arrived in New Brunswick (Fig. 1 on page 29). She was one of three d4ughters widow Ann Drummond brought In New Brunswick after the war. Jacobin, the eldest daughter, married Lt Dugald Campbell and lived at the mouth of the Tay, at Taymouth, York County,. In fact both were named after beautiful Loch Tay and the town at its mouth in Scotland, where her father's ancestors had lived. Susan, the youngest daughter, married Captain Archibald McLean and settled on a large farm in Nashwaak, York County.'

L McGibbon Beginnings in Scotland

Before more is said of David McGibbon's residency in New Brunswick, this paper will explore his life and military career before he came to New Brunswick. Many records exist which detail some of his pre-New Brunswick life. Copies of the two letters, written by David to his cousin Alexander McGibbon in Stirling in 1792 and 17952, fill in some of the gaps of this period and provide genealogical background as well. Both letters are copied below in full:

[ro] "Alexander McGibbon, Writer Stirling, Scotland

Frederick 19 Dec 1792 Dear Sandy,

It is with pleasure I embrace the op opportunity of a vessel for Great Britian to acknowledge the Receipt of your two letters of the 9th 1788 and the 9th April 1792 both of which lay a considerable while in the Post Office at Halifax before they were forwarded to me here and must I suppose have remained there till this moment had they not imagined from a letter that came through that Office for me from London properly directed that there was some mistale in the direction of your letters and so sent them to this Office. This Country was

(continued on page 29)

IN THIS ISSUE:

Programs - October, November, December front David McGibbon: British Soldier from Scotland. front Social Life and Customs 26 Message from the President 26 W.I.S.E. Tips 27 New Phone Numbers - DPL 27 WHERE IN IRELAND? 28 New Book Bibliography 30 Mutations (Welsh language) 31 W.I.S.E. Program Schedule 2000/2001 32

W. I S E If)orck, - 2 6 - Oct-Nov-Dec 2000

From the President

The summer has flown away and by the time we are meeting again, the fall will be here. There have been many activities, such as the visit to Norlin Library on the CU campus in Boulder, the trip to the cemeteries near Blackhawk and Central City, the Highland Games and Irish Festival. In September the Colorado Council's Colorado Conference and then our first regular meeting on our regular fourth Saturday in October. Hope to see many of you.

Did you take any trips to do research or other genealogy activities this summer? I did and it seems as though genealogy "events" have dominated my life with many successes and happy times because of it. Why do we do family research? After a very full six months, I know why I do. There is a lot of time consuming research, but the rewards are very great. I have found information which has lead me deeper into the lives of ancestors and given me a greater insight and appreciation into how our country has evolved. As part of the "older" generation, I now am part of the group who looks at the "younger" generations and wonders what this country will be like in twenty years. Preserving our past has become even more important for those who will follow in my families.

Those of you who have grandchildren are probably even more aware of how important it is to save our history. The "wonderful" technology and media advancements are of great concern to me. The opportuniq. I have been given by being on the Board of National Genealogical Society in these times, has made me even more aware of the possibilities and changes being faced. The Internet has many challenges for the researcher and many more questions. It is not a permanent medium of storage. The printed word is not in high favor at this time so publishers are feeling the reduction in sales. Libraries are trying to keep up with the new media and a lower emphasis is being placed on books. Many libraries are being neglected. We are very fortunate in the Denver Metropolitan area to still have better than average facilities. I believe that libraries will come back into greater use when more people see the great gaps, holes and impermanence of the Internet as it constantly changes and evolves.

How much have you found on the Internet to help you in your research? Has it replaced your research in the usual repositories? I can answer that it has not helped me very much nor has it replaced my usual research. I do not see that it will happen in my life time. There is so much information that a genealogist needs which will never be placed on the Internet because it is not financially feasible to digitize it. The courthouses in the thousands of county seats will never have the resources to do this. They are not interested in what we do even if there was adequate funding. I am interested in knowing what you think about the Internet, so will be looking forward to hearing from each of you.

May your research be fruitful and rewarding.

Atie 444 Pealukut

Social Life and Customs by: James K. Jeffrey

Orlin, Lena Cowen. Elizabethan Households: an Anthology. Washington, D.C.: Folger Shakespeare Library, 1995.

We have inherited the proverb " a man's house is his castle" from Elizabethan England. The readings presented here represent the varied activities and significance of domestic life of the past. It examines the material contexts, social practices, political hierarchies, economic enterprises, and religious offices. Orlin examines men and women from a wide range of positions and stations, including servants, tradesmen, and farmers.

Contemporary literature was examined to clarify the established social constructs within perceived codes of conduct and how public and private life actually was conducted. You will enjoy the chapters as they discuss the hypothetical house in terms of its architecture, household, furnishings and rooms, and social order. This anthology,which accompanied a Folger Library exhibition, includes extracts from 16th and 17th century texts describing the household roles of men, women, children, servants, and guests. Household objects, activities, duties, and pleasures are also studied. There are nearly 100 illustrations that will assist you in a reconstruction of the material world of your ancestors.

Family History Society. Dedicated to research in Wales, Ireland, Scotland, England, the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man. Interest in emigration and immigration of these people as well as heraldry and family studies.

Officers & Board of Directors President Ann Lisa Pearson Vice president/programs James K. Jeffrey Secretary Paul Kilburn Treasurer--------------- ------- — Donna J. Porter Membership Services Tommy Ceer and

Marg Ann Barton Directors Sharon Boatwright

Elizabeth Brown Terence Quirke, Ph.D., CG

George Forby

Newsletter Staff Editor------ ---------------------- -------Country Editors:

Wales--------------------------- Elizabeth Brown Ireland------------------ Terence Quirke, Ph.D., C.C. Scotland ------------- --------- ----- Paul Kilburn England----------- -------- --------- George Forby

Composers Janice Prater and Ann Lisa Pearson

Gordon Gray

W.I.S.E. ̀ limosd& - 2i - Oct-Nov-Dec 2000

W.I.S.E. Tips

by: Donna J. Porter

General Information:

Regular information is available on the PRO web site (Public Record Office)

<http:// www.pro.gov.uk>

The mailing address is: Public Record Office Ruskin Avenue Kew, TW9 4DU, England

The 5th revised edition of Tracing Your Ancestors in the Public Record Office, edited by Amanda Bevan, is available now from:

Family Tree Imports 2420 Newport Drive Lansing, MI 48906-3541

The 5th edition contains many "hel Rs" for all of us. For prices, contact Ken Harvey at Family Tree Imports - (517) 321-0945. Family Tree Imports carries many titles and maps for the UK. They will have a booth at the FGS Conference in Salt Lake City.

The International Society for British Genealogy and Family History, P.O. Box 3115, Salt Lake City, UT 84150-3115. Join now for $15. They have great 'British Connections.

The Irish Ancestral Research Association, P.O. Box 619, Sudbury, MA 01776. Their web site is:

<http://www.tiarade>

Contact the owner, Judith Barrett for Irish help.

Remember your local Family History Centers are an excellent source for British resources. The Family history Library has their catalog on CD and can be ordered via W.I.S.E. by contacting the Treasurer, Donna J. Porter, 1840 South Wolcott Ct., Denver, CO 80219-4309. The cost of the CD is $5 plus postage.

Salt Lake City Trip Dates SET!

Mark your calendars for January 15-20, 2001!

The W.I.S.E. annual research trip will be a great time to research at the Family History Library.

Last year there were 27 in the group and everyone had a successful trip.

We will be staying at the Salt Lake Plaza (Best Western) Hotel which is next door to the Library.

You will receive more details in the next two months, but reserve these dates so you will not miss out on this annual research trip.

January 15-20, 2001

New Phone Numbers at DPL for Western History & Genealogy

Reference Desk 720-865-1821

Telefax 720-865-1880

Jim Kroll, Manager 720-865-1820

Laurie Moeglein, Sr. Librarian 720-865-1812

Linda Bentley, Cataloger 720-865-1813

Marilyn Chang, Missing Persons 720-865-1807

Bruce Hanson, Building History 720-865-1807

Elizabeth Happy, Conservation 720-865-1906

James Jeffrey, Genealogy 720-865-1816

Brian Kenny, Reference 720-865-1807

Colleen Nunn, Serials 720-865-1807

Phil Panum, Western/Maps 720-865-1815

Lori Swingle, Photo Orders 720-865-1818

Jennifer Thom, Photos 720-865-1817

Brent Wagner, Mss. Librarian 720-865-1811

Barbara Walton, Mss.Acquisitions 720-865-1810

Kay Wisnia, Art Curator

Ellen Zazzarino, Mss. Processer

720-865-1807

720-865-1905

- 28 - Oct-Nov-Dec 2000

WHERE IN IRELAND?

By: Terence Quirke, Jr., CG

This is one of the more common problems for North Americans of Irish descent: from where in Ireland did my ancestors come?

Passenger lists are usually of little help. They may state that the immigrant sailed from Queenstown (seaport for Cork, County Cork). Thanks a lot. Or a census record may state that the person was "born in Ireland." But you knew that, already, didn't you?

None of the above is a significant help when what you want to know is: "where was my ancestor born?"

Look for MacLYSAGHT, Edward, Irish Families and More Irish Families, and two more my him. Also check The Dictionary of Irish Family Names. These are detailed below and are all on the 5th floor of DPL or your local friendly neighborhood library. If the surname for which you are looking is listed, it will give you an idea as to where it was most common and when. Remember: your best friend is the 'Research Librarian'.

The following may be of help if your ancestor was still in Ireland in the 1800s. If he/she came to North America prior to that time, very little recorded family history information may be available in Ireland or North America.

If your ancestors were still in Ireland in the 1840s to 1860s consider examining the Householders' index to Griffith's Valuation and the Tithe Applotments. This index is available thru the local LDS Family History Centers. List all occurrences of the surname of interest along with where, to narrow down the possible geographic area. If the name is rare in the county, go elsewhere. This may require some significant time, but will narrow down your search. You can start with the counties listed from MacLYSAGHT, above.

If you have a male surname as well as the surname of his wife, you can narrow down the search significantly more by only searching in the parishes and/or counties where both occur. Then as now, people did not walk very far for Love.

If your ancestors were married in Ireland after 1845 and were Anglo Irish (i.e., English who came over and took away the lands from the real Irish) then they were probably members of the Church of Ireland (Anglican), and married in that church. Civil registration of such marriages started in 1845. Indices of these marriages are available. Also, if it was a mixed marriage (Catholic and C of I) then these, too, had to be performed by a C of I minister and thus are also indexed after 1845.

All the Irish were subject to Civil Registration for births, marriages and deaths starting in 1864. If your ancestor might still have been in Ireland at this time, then one or more of his/her activities might be recorded. But more significantly, even if your ancestor is not listed, tabulate for several years from the indices from where others of the same surname were registered. This will show the distribution of the name for that period. You can then determine which county or counties were the most probable for his origin in Ireland.

In Irish Genealogy: A Record Finder, by D.F. BEGLEY, there is a copy of a report by Robert Matheson, the Secretary of the Registry Office (See also LDS film, Reel #0476999, item 1.) This gives the distribution in 1890 of the surnames which occurred five or more times in the registered births of that year. Not only that, but it gives the total number of each surname registered and the number in each province. Within the province with the greatest concentration of the particular surname, the counties are given with the most occurrences of the surname. This can be used as a guide for surname distributions from, say, 1860 thru 1910, assuming that people just did not move around very much. It is particularly useful if one has the surname of the wife as well as the husband. Again, they were probably both from the same county.

Once one has the county or, at least, a few counties which are most probable, then contact the pertinent Heritage Centre. Almost all parish records and many other records have now been indexed by these centres. In fact, except for the films of parish registers at the National Library of Ireland, these centres are the only access to these important primary documents. This will cost money, but going thru these centres is a bit cheaper than flying to Dublin (but not as much fun!) Addresses and coverage of such centres are available in several books, one of which was written by J.G. RYAN and a second by K.J. BE I'll and D.A. RADFORD.

Even without knowing from Family Oral History exactly from where one's ancestors came one can narrow down the search significantly and then take advantage of the indexing and local familiarity of the pertinent Heritage Centre.

Bibliography

MacLYSAGHT, Edward, Irish Families; Their Names, Arms, and Origins, 1957, Dublin, H. Figgis, 366p. DPL: G929.1415 M226ir

----, More Irish Families, 1960, Galway, O'Gorman, 320p. DPL: G929.1415 M226mo

, Supplement to Irish Families, 1964, Baltimore, Genelogical Book Co., 163p. DPL: G929.1415 M226su

, The Surnames of Ireland, 1969, Shannon, Irish University Press, 252p. DPL: G929.4 M226su

BEGLEY, D.F., Irish Genealogy: A Record Finder, 1981, Dublin, Heeraldic Artists, 252p. DPL: G929.3415 1683

GREHAN, Ida, Dictionary of Irish Family Names, 1997, Boulder, Roberts Rinehart Publishers, 332p. DPL: G929.420941 G862di

RYAN, James G., Irish Records, Sources for Family and Local History, 1997, Salt Lake City, Ancestry, 668p. DPL: G929.3415 Aliyan 1997

BETTT, Kyle J. and RADFORD, Dwight A., Ireland: A Genealogical Guide, 1998, Salt Lake City, The Irish at Home and Abroad, 94p. DPL: G929.108991 B465ir 1998

Terence T. Quirke, Jr., Ph.D., CG Golden, Colorado

------ Additional bibliograph -- ----

GRENHAM, John, Tracing Your Irish Ancestors, Second Edition, 1999, Baltimore,

Genealogical Publishing Co., DPL: 929.07415 G865tr 1922. Circulates from the

branches.

W. I .S. E. 'Woods, - 29 - Oct-Nov-Dec 2000

DAVID McGIBBON: BRITISH SOLDIER FROM SCOTLAND

(continued from front page)

formerly part of Nova Scotia, but since the Peace has been formed into a new Province under the name of New Brunswick and Halifax, a place where I am perfectly unknown being upwards of two hundred miles distant from this place there is no wonder that your letters remained so

g in that Post Office before they found out the place of my residence. In Mire therefore you will say Lieut as no off in this country is called Capt but one who holds a commission of that rank

It is impossible for me now to recollect you as you must have been very young indeed when I left my native home However I am perfectly satisfied with respect to our propinquity and can assure you that you have not a relative upon earth inure warmly attached to you or more willing to render you a service than I am. I feel myself march indebted to you for your anxiety to find me out and force me into a correspondence the continuance of which will give me pleasure.

The information you give ire of the death of my unfortunate Patents is the first notice I have had of that melancholy event I lament their loss and mourn inwardly for then

You tell me that all my other Relations are well and -that they may long continue so is my most sincere wish. In to my own situation, all that I shall at present say is that I feel myself perfectly independent though not affluent, and that I am a Husband and the Father of to children-other particulars I must reserve for a future letter.

,John MCGIBBON 1-44anry MCGIBBON

FlAnn MACGI b ant 1779

BBON act

r -Archbald MCGIBBON

Ann KERR b &be 1720 m as 1740

Donald MacGregor 1DRUMMOND lb 17124 an Iwo

tAnna GROESKFEK 151734 m t2.5.5

David MACGIBBON b. 1744 d 1525

UTrut DRUMMOND }O. stn. 175.9 m 851 1785

Aiarandar DRUMM. obi 1761

Tbacotana DRUMMOND ate 1756

Margaret DRUMMOND b act 1757

1b WA 1783

Mary DRUMMOND b ad 1758

Susan DRUMMOND

j INiefielas MURRAY 4b ton. 7790 m. are 181

ji; -..iintni-kukconaiii I lb 1791 d 1877

. W( arn DAYTON 1.5 1754 m1821 4. 1871

John MACGIBBON b 1793 d. 1863

yrw MEYERS '-o 1800 m. abt. 18204

1857

jiMmander MACGIBBON 1794195

I :Amy YERXA ebt. 1800

Figure 1 - Descendants of John McGibbon (McGibbon-Drummond Descendants)

I have an Urde Thomas Kem at Kirkintilloch-will you be to enquire whether le is still alive and if he has got any second wife. I should also like to know whether the following gentleman are still alive viz. Wm. Angus McPherson and his son David McPherson-Merchants Irricenbooths-Edin Messrs. Patrick Renny and John Johnston writers writers Falkirk and Mr. James Downie Bridge of Stirling Best Compts. to all friends and I remain with the truest regard Dear Sandv

by

Your affectionate C.ounsine

[signed] David McGibbon"

The second letter is far more revealing of his military tenure:

[To] "Alexander McGthbor Writer Sliding Scotland Fredencloton New Brunswick

12th Mar. 1795

Dear Sandy I dare say by this time you have dropped thought of ever hearing from me suppposing that I am either gore to the land of forgetfulness or that I never recewed your letter-neither of these however is the case and I can assure you that I am at this moment as much disposed as ever to keep up our friendly oorrespcndence.

I received ours of the 17 Feb. 1794 some time ago and I should have answered long ere now had I now been prevented by a number of unavoidable causes, and as accident not inclination has kept me silent so long I hope you will not copy after my example, but be more immediate in your answers to mire.

I observe the friendly attention you have paid to the requisitions in my letter and from the information you give me on the subject I am ready to conclude with you that was I to return to my native country it would appear to me almost an unknown land which convinces me fore forceably than ever of the vanity of human life as several of the Gentlemen you mention as dead were much younger than myself and had prospect of long life equally promising with mine-

I perceive particularly that you have been at a great deal of pains and trouble if ' the information you give me if regard to my Uncle Mr. Ken- t appears strange however that at the time of this marriage with Marg-now he was possessed of reffdrg but moveables when to my knowledge he had a Meretable (?) Subject I left Scotland-He built a house at the west end of IC.erkintulloch and I am pretty clear that some land (I cant say how much) adjoining it was his property-Will you be so good therefore as inquire a little farther into this Matter for if the whole of His Estate at the time of his • gg was moveables then he must have previously sold that house and

Flout the remarks you make in regard to politics it would a that the rising generation, like children, are grasping at something know not what and from newspaper intelligence it is evident that the madness of the French Nation has been more or less felt all over Europe.

I would willingly gratify you with an account of my life sitar leaving Scotland, but as there is nothing in it very entertaining or interesting I shall only account to you a few general Circumstances.

I left London in the year 1777 in a vessel bound for West Florida where I was Coco missionedto transact some business of consequence for a Gentleman of Edin. at which place we arrived in about two months after touching at Cork and the Island of Jamaica -I had not remained long thee when I had an opportunity of entering upon a Military life soon after which the Corps I bel ordered to was to the River Noli ppi to establish a post on that River which was afterwards reinforced by the 16th l'Reg,t and part of a Regt of German Troops in the pay of Great Britain-The Spanish War broke out soon after and as that was a circumstance in that retired comer to which we were utter strangers we were before we were aware of it obliged after a short • (Beinge= provided with every article of Defense) to surrender to a • who came against us with a very superior Force. From the City Orleans on the RiverM.sassppi where we were detained sometime we were sent to Vera Cruz in Mexico from thence we were soon sent to Havana where we were kept a considerable while and Exchanged to New York about eighteen months after which a general Peace took place, and at [as] this Country was held out as an asylum, I with most of the disbanded Corps and many thousand Loyalists cane thither in the year 1783-Remarks on this Country and the establishment I am making in it I shall leave for the subject of another letter.

last I told you that I was married and had two children-since have had the increase of a boy to whom I have given the name

. of Johnafter his Grandfather it may be pleasing to you to know that my wife is a Sister of s of Baihaldie a brother's dau of Mrs. Wrights and of course a Cousin German of Capt

If you are ever at Dunked or have any ac tan there, will you be good enough to enquire whether a Capt Maxwell of the late Price of Wales American Regt is yet alive. If he is and you see him tell him that you are a Counsin of mine and that I desired you to enquire after him as his friends here are astonished they have never heard from him-He left this Country near seven years ago and he told me that his father was a Merchant at Dunkeld and an old Man.

Mrs. McG joins in best wishes to you and all friends.-

Your affectionate Counsirte [signed] David McCabbon"

David was born in 1744 in Alloa, Clackmanshire, Scotland, ' tern five miles east of Stirling and about 25 miles west of

His father's name was John- and mother's Ann Ker. David was the third of three brothers that we have a retold of. The oldest brother Ardibal was baptized in 1738 in nearby Stirling. The second son, Henry, was in 1742 in Alloa. I have found no record of his

their births He had an uncle named Thomas Ken; of David's Scottish origins.

(continued on page 30) t little

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DAVID McGIBBON: BRITISH SOLDIER FROM SCOTLAND

(continued from page 29)

The uncle Thomas Kern [Kerr] of Kirkintilloch mentioned in the first letter, in-dmr y the brother of his mother, was actually Thomas Kerr, schoolmaster in Kirl&16.Wch from 1762 until at least 1786. He and his wife Margaret Rew are still listed together until 1789, but in 1795 she is listed as his relict

The letters indicate that David was well educated, both by their literary style and the fact that his uncle was a schoolmaster. He was 33 years old when he left Scotland. He travelled to British West Florida to conduct business for an Edinburgh gentleman. Little did he suspect that as a result of events subsequent to that trip he would beccane a Canadian.

Paul Dayton Kilburn 17425 West 57th Avenue Golden, Colorado 80403 (303) 278-3309

(Part 2 of this story will be in the 1Q2001 issue of W.LS.E Words)

Endnotes:

1 Article taken with 4i ht modifications from "Generations" the journal of the New ' Genealogical Society, Winter 1998. Ann Drummond was married to Donald Drummond and had one son Alexazddcer) and five dat gi!th lt,ms• the two who did not come to New 3Turis were Margaret (b abt'1757) and (b abt 1758), both born in New York. Mary married her cousin in • Margaret never married and may have returned to Scotland with her sister.

2 Ltrs from David McGlabon, Fredericton to Alexander McGibbon, Stirling Scotland, 1792 and 1795, in the NB Archives, Fredericton.

3 The only David McGibbon born in the 1740's according to the LDS IGI; arid only five miles from Stirling. The same IGI reference gives his father as John and his mother as Ann Ker. Clearly it must have bean Kern, as that was the name of his uncle Thomas given in each of David's letters. And as the letter sates, David named his son John after his

tiler. Undoubtedly this referred to his father and not his wilds/ wee two or three other McGibbon &miles living in Stirling at this

time, so that they must all have ben related as his cousin was living there in the 1790's

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them and they continue to be her strongest, most productive and fascinating line. "I'm not Catholic, myself" Zoe explained, "however-blame/credit my Presbyterian grandmother for that. I've been exceptionally fortunate in researching this line-therefore the title of my presentation, 'The Luck of the Irish.'"

Zoe Lappin is a graduate of the University of Wisconsin at Madison School of Journalism. She retired in 1999 after 43 years working for daily newspapers, including The Denver Post and Rocky Mountain News. Her last 24 years were as copy editor and headline writer for the News. Her Irish grand-father, Peter J. Savage, was editor and owner of the Iron River Pioneer, a Wisconsin country weekly from 1898 until 1952. Join W.I.S.E. as Zoe shares her story of suc-cess with the Savages in her family.

New Books Bibliography Western History and Genealogy Denver Public Library By James K. Jeffrey

Basic Reference and Handbooks

Baxter, Angus. In Search of Your British and Irish Roots: a Complete Guide to Tracing Your English, Welsh, Scottish and Irish Ancestors. 4th edition. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1999 G929.1072041 B333in 1999

Baxter, Angus. In Search of Your Canadian Roots: Tracing Your Family Tree in Canada. 3 rd edition. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2000 G929.1072071 B333in 2000

Makower, Joel, editor. The Map Catalog: Every Kind of Map and Chart on Earth and Even Some Above It. New York: Random House, 1990 G912.0294 M32 1990

Newman, John J. American Naturalization Records, 1790-1990: What They Are and How to Use Them. Bountiful, Utah: Heritage Quest, 1998 G929.107207N465am 1998

Perkins, John P. Kent Families Research Directory. London: Federation of Family History Societies, 1992 G929.107204 K419

Reid, Judith Prowse. Genealogical Research in England's Public Record Office: a Guide for North Americans. 2 nd edi-tion. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2000 G929.1072 R272ge 2000

Directories

J. Pigot & Co. Pigot's Directory 1830, Berkshire. 1 micro-fiche. London: Society of Genealogists, 1992. G929.34229 J109pi MICROFCH

J. Pigot & Co. Pigot's Directory 1830, Buckinghamshire. 1 microfiche. London: Society of Genealogists, 1992. G929.34259 J109pi MICROFCH

J. Pigot & Co. Pigot's Directory 1830, Cambridgeshire and Huntingdonshire. 1 microfiche. London: Society of Genealogists, 1992 G929.34265 J109pi MICROFCH

J. Pigot & Co. Pigot's Directory 1830, Cheshire. 1 microfiche. London: Society of Genealogists, 1992 G929.34271 J109pi MICROFCH

J. Pigot & Co. Pigot's Directory 1830, Cornwall. 1 micro-fiche. London: Society of Genealogists, 1992 G929.34237 J109pi MICROFCH

J. Pigot & Co. Pigot's Directory 1830, Cumberland and Westmoreland. 1 microfiche. London: Society of Genealogists, 1992 G929.34278 J109pi MICROFCH

J. Pigot & Co. Pigot's Directory 1830, Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire. 2 microfiche. London, Society of Genealogists, 1992 G929.34251 J109pi MICROFCH

J. Pigot & Co. Pigot's Directory 1830, Devonshire. 2 micro-fiche. London: Society of Genealogists, 1992 G929.34235 J109pi MICROFCH

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MUTATIONS by: Betty Brown

If you are like me, you are successful in finding articles in Welsh books or periodicals about your ancestors, you will want to know what they say. Translations are expensive, but if you want to try to decipher anything yourself, you will need to gain some understanding of Welsh grammar.

One of the frustrations in trying to understand Welsh is the occur-rence of mutated words. We have mutations in English, especially in plural forms, e.g. shelf - shelves, wife - wives, thief - thieves, or in the sound of th as in path - paths. We mutate in the sound of consonants when we say wader instead of water, cidy for city, beaudy for beauty, Beddy for Betty. I love the way the Welsh handle my nickname - they spell it Beti and pronounce the t sound.

Welsh mutations occur at the beginning of words. There are rules -- too many for this very short introduction to them, but it is important to realize that Welsh words can have variant spellings. And dictionaries give only the root words, not the mutations. These are just a few of the rules: Nouns'may mutate after fy (my) dy (familiar your), and ei (his or her). Feminine singular nouns mutate softly after y or yr (the). Adjectives follow nouns and mutate softly after yn (a word with many uses —as a preposition — as a connector). They also mutate softly after a feminine noun, e.g. bach (small or little) become fach ' so a small cat (cath) becomes cath fach.

There are three types of mutation. Soft, Nasal, and Aspirate or Fricative. Typical mutations of nouns are shown in the accompa-nying table. My purpose is not to scare you, but to demonstrate how very different the mutated forms may look. There are aids like Ninnau's Guide to the Use of the Welsh Dictionary for Be&ners and Others, compiled by Robert A. Fowkes. Sponsored by The St. David's Society of the Sate of New York. It is available for $8.50 from Ninnau Publications, 11 Post Terrace, Basking Ridge, NJ 07920 (201-766-6736). It does not give definitions, but lists mutated forms and gives the root words where they can be found in a dictionary. There are many books, cassettes, CD's, even videos for learning Welsh. The best way to learn the language is to join a class like those of the Colorado Welsh Society.

Mutations Table

Initial or Radical Soft Mutation Nasal Mutation Aspirate or fricative Mutation Consonant (only after fy, y or yn

as a preposition)

B brawd

(brother)

F ei frawd e (his brother)

M fy mrawd i (my brother)

[none] ei brawd hi (her brother)

C ci

(dog)

G ei gi e (his dog)

NGH fy nghi i (my dog)

CH ei chi hi (her dog)

D dosbarth

(class)

DD ei ddosbarth e

(his class)

N fy nosbarth i (my class)

[none] ei dosbarth hi

(her class)

G gardd (garden)

-- ei ardd e (his garden)

NG fy ngardd i (my garden)

[none] ei gardd hi (her garden)

LL Ilyfr

(book)

L ei lyfr e (his book)

[none] fy Ilyfr i

(my book)

[none] ei llvfr hi

(her Sook)

M mam

(mother)

F ei fam e

(his mother)

[none] fy mam i (my mother)

[none] ei mam hi

(her mother)

P. pensil

(pencil)

B ei bensil e

(his pencil)

MH fy mhensil i (my pencil)

PH ei phensil hi

(her pencil)

RH rhaglen

(program)

R ei raglen e

(his program)

[none] fy rhaglen e (my program)

[none] ei rhaglen hi

(her program)

T tad

(father)

D ei dad e

(his father)

NH fy nhad i (my father)

TH el thad hi

(her father)

His Her Soft Mutation Nasal Mutation Aspirate Mutation

car (car), masc. ei gar e y nghar i ei char hi pen (head), masc. ei ben e 'y mhen i ei phen hi teula (family), masc. ei deulu e y nheulu i ei theulu hi

gardd (garden), fern. ei ardd e 'y ngarddi ei gardd hi bag (bag), masc. ei fag e 'y mag i ei bag hi desg (desk), fem. ei ddesg e 'y nesg i ei desg hi

mam (mother), fern. ei fam e 'y mam i ei mam hi Haw (hand), fem. ei law e 'y Ilaw i ei Ilaw hi rhestr (list), fern. ei restr e 'y rhestr i ei rhestri hi

'y = fy

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W.I.S.E. Family History Society 2000 Program Schedule

22-23 Sept.

28 October

A Rocky Mountain Regional Conference

Colorado Council of Genealogical

Societies with Cyndi Howells, Hank

Jones, and other guest speakers,

Lakewood, Colorado

Victors Write the History

Loyalists in the American Revolution

with Lawrence "Larry" M. Wilson

2 December Luck of the Irish with Zoe Lappin

27 January

2001 Program Schedule

Annual General Meeting and

Touring England and Scotland

for Ancestral Castles, Halls and

Churches with Paul Kilburn

24 February Hearth and Home: How Our

Ancestors Lived with James K. Jeffrey

24 March The 1901 Census of England, Wales

and.Scotland with Donna J. Porter

MARK YOUR CALENDARS

Unless otherwise noted, the meeting schedule is: 1:30 p.m. 7th Floor Training Room Central benver Public Library 10 West Fourteenth Avenue Denver, Colorado

This schedule is subject to change. All meetings are free and open to the public

W.I.S.E. Wales, Ireland, Scotland, & England Family History Society P. 0. Box 48226 Denver, Colorado 80204-8226