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The Hindustan Times
19th January 1935 Page:12
MASQUES AND SOULS
HalideHanum'sDiscussion
With Gandhiji
M.D.
writes in 'Harijan':_
Even greater perhaps than the meeting withDr.Maude
Roydenwas the meeting of Gandhiji with that choice spirit
of the age, Madame Halide Edib
Hanum,
whose has been a life
of intense suffering and sacrifice. There is a shadow of
subdued melancholy over this fighter in the cause of freedom,
and in her benignant eyes is a glint and a flash sufficient
to scorch all impurity and injustice. She has laboured and
sufferedall herlife,written great books and striven to
bring her people nearer to that freedom which is a thing
that we have to conquer afresh for ourselves everyday, like
love,
and which we are losing because after eachvictory,we
think we can settle down and enjoy it without furtehr struggle.
Hope of Mankind
This remarkable lady who typifies the best in the woman
hood of Turkey has come at the invitation of the Jamia Millia
Islamia to deliver a course of lectures on what one may call
the reconciliation between the East and the West, the
cul
tures of which are so beautifully blended in her. But in
her utmost humility wherein lies the strength of the truly
strong she came and sat down near Gandhiji and said: I have
come to learn from you and take what I can for my own people.
I will not, I dare not, describe the talks that have taken
place between them. They are too sacred for my pen. But let
the reader know that having known what violence is, she seems
definitely to have turned her back on it and found that in
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non-violence alone lies the hope of mankind.
Nationalism - Right and Wrong
Hers is no narrow nationalism. Suffering has with her
no value unless it is pure and undefiled. In her great book
of Memoirs shesays: The individual or the nationin order
to understand itsfellowmenor its fellow nations, in order
to create beauty and to express its personality, must go
deep down to the roots of its being and study itself sincere
ly. The process of this deep
self-duty,as
well as its results,
is nationalism. I believe with all earnestness that such
a national self-duty and the exchange of its results is
the first and right step to international understanding and
love of the peoples and nations. It is after I have loved
my own people and tried to understand their virtues and their
faults with open-minded humility taht I begin to have a better
understanding of other people's sufferings and joys,and
of their personality expressed in their national life. I
will also admit that there is a narrow, negative and destruc
tive nationalism in the world, which has deluded itself with
the belief that a nation can only grow and thrive by exter
minating and oppressing the peoples under its rule, or by
conquering and suppressing the nations around it. Both are
forms of wrongly understood nationalism which can be called
by the names ofchauvenismand imperialism. And the peoples
who exercised them have themselves suffered materially and
morally more than the people they have tried to hurt.
The hypocarcy and personal unworthiness of many
of the world's leaders, whether national or international,
can lead to a complete and final destruction of all that
has been the outcome of infinite suffering and experience
of thousands of years. Also: Nationalism used for political
purposes is an ideal turnedintoa monstrosity. It is for
a moral and material reconstruction of her nation that she
is striving, and it is to that end that she would like to
shape all her educational and social reform activities. The
school in her opinion must conform as much as possible to
a home. Bad orgood,humanityhas not yet discovered a better
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Oh yes, if we can find even one true witness to the
Truth, said Gandhiji.
I am not very optimistic, for the opposite side is
very strong, said Madame Halide.
I have never lost my optimism, said
Gandhiji
assuring
her. In seemingly darkest hours hope has burnt bright within
me.
You cannot kill your own hope, I know, she said in
serene exaltation.
You are absolutely right. I cannot kill the hope myself.
I must say I cannot give an ocular demonstration to justify
the hope. But there is no defeat in me.
There will never be I am sure, there will never be.
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The Hindustan Times
20th January 1935 Page : 11
Badge of Real Heroism
Distress and Suffering
Lessons of Turkey's Sacrifices
Gandhiji'sViews
NEW
DELHI,
Saturday
Those who die in utter distress and suffering are the
real heroes and heroins of the world, and not the monarchs
and kings, however high their empires might be, said Mahat-
ma Gandhipresiding over the second series of lectures Ma
dame Halide Edib Hanum at the Jamia Millia Islamia to-day.
Yazxnm
bundan sonraki
kismi
The Bombay
Chronicle'in
21 Ocak 1935 tarihli
sayismda cikan yazmin
aynidir.
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The Bombay Chronicle
21st January 1935 Page
GANDHIJI'S
GLOWING TRIBUTE
TOHALIDE'SSERVICE
Musalmans,
Bones Of Our Bones
INDISSOLUBLE TIE BETWEEN TWO NATIONS
(From our Correspon
dent) NEWDELHI-
Jan.19.
True history is the history of the individual men
and women who die in utter neglect and are true heroes and
heroins and not that of great kings who bring destruction,
said Gandhiji presiding over the second extension lecture
on 'the conflict of East and West in Turkey' delivered by
Madame Halide EdibHanum,in theJamiaMillia Islamia
to
night.
The Living Link
Continuing Gandhiji said: When our sister was presen
ted the other day I immediately betrayed ignorance of the
subject and as I was trying to listen to-night I could again
see how ignorant I was of the outside history. Having immersed
in a life of perpetual activity, I am unable to keep abreast
with history of the present times. But I could not resist
the idea of listening to Begum Sahiba and it became irresis-
table
when I met her. She is the living link between India
and Turkey. If I had not come to-day, I would have missed
the address and lost the opportunity of realising my igno
rance.
These extension lectures are not meant for seasoned soldiers
but for young students of this college. If these youngsters
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