AGENDA NFPA Technical Committee on
Building Service and Fire Protection Equipment NFPA 101 and NFPA 5000 Second Draft Meeting
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 DoubleTree by Hilton Hotel San Diego Downtown
1646 Front Street San Diego, California
1. Call to Order. Call meeting to order by Chair Joseph Jardin, at 8:00 a.m. on Tuesday, May 21, 2013.
2. Self-introduction of Committee Members and Guests. For a current committee roster, pg. 2.
3. Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes. Approve the May 22-23, 2012 meeting minutes, pg. 6.
4. Chair’s report – J. Jardin.
5. Review new NFPA codes and standards development process – G. Harrington. See
pg. 14 for slide presentation.
6. Definitions Task Group. See pg. 31.
7. Hazardous Materials Task Group. See pg. 32.
8. NFPA 101 Second Draft (formerly ROC) Preparation. Public Comments to be distributed prior to meeting date.
9. NFPA 5000 Second Draft (formerly ROC) Preparation. Public Comments to be
distributed prior to meeting date.
10. Other Business.
11. Adjournment.
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Address List No PhoneBuilding Service and Fire Protection Equipment SAF-BSF
Safety to Life
Gregory E. Harrington04/10/2013
SAF-BSF
Joseph M. Jardin
ChairFire Department City of New York16 Dexter CourtHauppauge, NY 11788NFPA Fire Service SectionAlternate: Greg Gottlieb
C 1/1/1991SAF-BSF
Gregory E. Harrington
Secretary (Staff-Nonvoting)National Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471
6/2/1998
SAF-BSF
Brian D. Black
PrincipalBDBlack Codes, Inc.4034 North Hampton Brook DriveHamburg, NY 14075National Elevator Industry Inc.Alternate: Gary L. Nuschler
M 01/10/2008SAF-BSF
Harry L. Bradley
PrincipalMaryland State Fire Marshals Office5 West Riding DriveBel-Air, MD 21014International Fire Marshals Association
E 1/1/1991
SAF-BSF
Pat D. Brock
PrincipalOklahoma State UniversityFire Protection & Safety Technology1424 West Liberty AvenueStillwater, OK 74075Alternate: Bryan Lawrence Hoskins
SE 1/1/1987SAF-BSF
Scott Caron
PrincipalRhode Island State Fire Marshal’s Office118 Parade StreetProvidence, RI 02909
E 08/09/2012
SAF-BSF
Flora F. Chen
PrincipalHayward Fire Department, California777 B StreetHayward, CA 94541
E 10/20/2010SAF-BSF
Stephen E. Dale
PrincipalCincinnati Insurance Company6200 South Gilmore RoadFairfield, OH 45014
I 08/09/2012
SAF-BSF
Paul M. Donga
PrincipalBoston Fire Department115 Southampton StreetBoston, MA 02118
E 7/20/2000SAF-BSF
Raymond A. Grill
PrincipalArup Fire1120 Connecticut Avenue, NW, Suite 200Washington, DC 20036Alternate: John E. Mahoney
SE 3/2/2010
SAF-BSF
Thomas P. Hammerberg
PrincipalAutomatic Fire Alarm Association, Inc.14 Sammy McGhee Boulevard, #103PO Box 1569Jasper, GA 30143Automatic Fire Alarm Association, Inc.Alternate: J. Robert Boyer
M 10/23/2003SAF-BSF
Claude O. Hutton
PrincipalVirginia State Fire Marshal’s Office1165 East Lee HighwayChilhowie, VA 24319
E 08/09/2012
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Safety to Life
Gregory E. Harrington04/10/2013
SAF-BSF
Kenneth E. Isman
PrincipalNational Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc.40 Jon Barrett RoadPatterson, NY 12563Alternate: Jeffrey M. Hugo
M 1/1/1987SAF-BSF
Michael Kellett
PrincipalState of ConnecticutOffice of the State Fire Marshal1111 Country Club RoadMiddletown, CT 06457-9294Connecticut State Fire Marshal/Connecticut Fire MarshalsAssociationAlternate: Ignatius Kapalczynski
E 7/26/2007
SAF-BSF
David A. Killian
PrincipalWalt Disney Parks & ResortsMAPO Building1401 Flower StreetGlendale, CA 91201
U 8/2/2010SAF-BSF
Roy C. Kimball
PrincipalBrooks Equipment Company, Inc.PO Box 481888Charlotte, NC 28269Fire Equipment Manufacturers' Association
M 4/15/2004
SAF-BSF
David L. Klepitch
PrincipalWhitman, Requardt & Associates, LLP801 South Caroline StreetBaltimore, MD 21231
SE 8/2/2010SAF-BSF
Richard L. Klinker
PrincipalKlinker & Associates, Inc.2355 Davidsonville RoadGambrills, MD 21054Alternate: Claudia Hagood
SE 1/1/1981
SAF-BSF
Peter A. Larrimer
PrincipalUS Department of Veterans Affairs323 North Shore Drive, Suite 400Pittsburgh, PA 15212Alternate: Peter Leszczak
U 4/1/1994SAF-BSF
Daniel J. Lazarz
PrincipalEYP Architecture & Engineering470 Atlantic Avenue, 7th FloorBoston, MA 02110Alternate: Kelly Thompson
SE 8/9/2011
SAF-BSF
James Noveh
PrincipalJefferson Parish Fire Department1221 Elmwood Park Blvd., Suite 704Jefferson, LA 70123
E 10/20/2010SAF-BSF
Scott E. Panowitz
PrincipalBFPE International7512 Connelley DriveHanover, MD 21076Fire Suppression Systems Association
IM 03/05/2012
SAF-BSF
Martin H. Reiss
PrincipalThe RJA Group, Inc.1661 Worcester Road, Suite 501Framingham, MA 01701-5401Alternate: Michael Derr
SE 7/1/1993SAF-BSF
Rodger Reiswig
PrincipalTyco/SimplexGrinnell3640 Haddington CourtApopka, FL 32712Alternate: Paul J. Vautour
M 01/10/2008
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Safety to Life
Gregory E. Harrington04/10/2013
SAF-BSF
Richard Jay Roberts
PrincipalHoneywell Life Safety3825 Ohio AvenueSt. Charles, IL 60174National Electrical Manufacturers AssociationAlternate: Daniel P. Finnegan
M 10/20/2010SAF-BSF
Kurt A. Ruchala
PrincipalFIREPRO Incorporated1600 Osgood Street, Suite 2-82North Andover, MA 01845
SE 3/1/2011
SAF-BSF
Robert A. Schmidt
PrincipalCombustion Science & Engineering, Inc.8940 Old Annapolis Road, Suite LColumbia, MD 21045
SE 10/28/2008SAF-BSF
Lawrence J. Shudak
PrincipalUL LLC333 Pfingsten RoadNorthbrook, IL 60062-2096
RT 4/15/2004
SAF-BSF
Michael R. Szmanda
PrincipalCertification & Training CorporationM-R-J Security LLC1641 Island CourtWaconia, MN 55387
IM 8/9/2011SAF-BSF
Carl D. Wren
PrincipalAustin Fire DepartmentEmergency Prevention DivisionOne Texas Center, Suite 200505 Barton Springs RoadAustin, TX 78704
E 10/6/2000
SAF-BSF
David M. Wyatt
PrincipalBattelle/Pacific Northwest National Laboratory2201 South Cleveland StreetKennewick, WA 99338
U 3/2/2010SAF-BSF
J. Robert Boyer
AlternateUTC/Edwards Company62 Airport RoadPittstown, NJ 08867Automatic Fire Alarm Association, Inc.Principal: Thomas P. Hammerberg
M 4/14/2005
SAF-BSF
Michael Derr
AlternateThe RJA Group, Inc.Rolf Jensen & Associates, Inc.14502 Greenview Drive, Suite 500Laurel, MD 20708Principal: Martin H. Reiss
SE 10/20/2010SAF-BSF
Daniel P. Finnegan
AlternateSiemens Industry, Inc.Building Technology DivisionFire Safety Unit8 Fernwood RoadFlorham Park, NJ 07932National Electrical Manufacturers AssociationPrincipal: Richard Jay Roberts
M 10/20/2010
SAF-BSF
Greg Gottlieb
AlternateHauppauge Fire District855 Wheeler RoadHauppauge, NY 11788NFPA Fire Service SectionPrincipal: Joseph M. Jardin
C 4/1/1993SAF-BSF
Claudia Hagood
AlternateKlinker and Associates, Inc.2355 Davidsonville RoadGambrills, MD 21054Principal: Richard L. Klinker
SE 7/1/1993
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Safety to Life
Gregory E. Harrington04/10/2013
SAF-BSF
Bryan Lawrence Hoskins
AlternateOklahoma State University499 Cordell SouthStillwater, OK 74078Principal: Pat D. Brock
SE 10/29/2012SAF-BSF
Jeffrey M. Hugo
AlternateNational Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc.1088 West Borton RoadEssexville, MI 48732Principal: Kenneth E. Isman
M 7/26/2007
SAF-BSF
Ignatius Kapalczynski
AlternateSimsbury Fire DistrictDeputy Fire Marshal139 Selden Hill DriveWest Hartford, CT 06107Connecticut State Fire Marshal/Connecticut Fire MarshalsAssociationPrincipal: Michael Kellett
E 10/6/2000SAF-BSF
Peter Leszczak
AlternateUS Department of Veterans Affairs950 Campbell AvenueWest Haven, CT 06516Principal: Peter A. Larrimer
U 11/2/2006
SAF-BSF
John E. Mahoney
AlternateArup1120 Connecticut Avenue NW, Suite 200Washington, DC 20036Principal: Raymond A. Grill
SE 3/1/2011SAF-BSF
Gary L. Nuschler
AlternateOtis Elevator Company5 Farm Springs RoadFarmington, CT 06032-2575National Elevator Industry Inc.Principal: Brian D. Black
M 4/15/2004
SAF-BSF
Kelly Thompson
AlternateEYP Architecture & Engineering225 Varick Street, 2nd FloorNew York, NY 10014Principal: Daniel J. Lazarz
SE 10/29/2012SAF-BSF
Paul J. Vautour
AlternateTyco/SimplexGrinnell50 Technology DriveWestminster, MA 01441Principal: Rodger Reiswig
M 03/05/2012
SAF-BSF
Steven Orlowski
Nonvoting MemberNational Association of Home Builders1201 15th Street, NWWashington, DC 20005-2800
U 10/18/2011SAF-BSF
Gregory E. Harrington
Staff LiaisonNational Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471
6/2/1998
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BLD/SAF-BSF 05-2012 FIRST DRAFT Meeting Minutes / Page 1 of 3
Building Code – Safety to Life Technical Committee on Building Service and Fire Protection Equipment
NFPA 101 & NFPA 5000 FIRST DRAFT MEETING MINUTES
Tuesday-Wednesday, May 22-23, 2012 Indianapolis Convention Center
Indianapolis, Indiana
1. Call to order. The meeting was called to order by Acting Chair Ray Grill at 8:00 a.m.
on Tuesday, May 22, 2012.
2. Introduction of committee members and guests. The following committee members and guests were in attendance (see Minutes Attachment A for the updated committee roster).
TECHNICAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS
NAME REPRESENTING Raymond Grill, Principal, Acting Chair Arup Fire Gregory Harrington, Nonvoting Secretary NFPA Harry Bradley, Principal Maryland State Fire Marshal's Office
Rep. Int’l Fire Marshals Association J. Boyer (Alt to T. Hammerberg)
UTC/Edwards Company
Pat Brock, Principal Oklahoma State University Lawrence Brown (Alt to S. Orlowski)
National Association of Home Builders
Daniel Finnegan (Alt to R. J. Roberts)
Siemens Industry, Inc.
Peter Larrimer, Principal US Department of Veterans Affairs Daniel Lazarz, Principal Einhonr Yaffee Prescott Architecture &
Engineering Scott Panowitz, Principal BFPE International
Rep. Fire Suppression Systems Association Martin Reiss, Principal The RJA Group, Inc. Rodger Reiswig, Principal Tyco/SimplexGrinnell Richard Jay Roberts, Principal Honeywell Life Safety Kurt Ruchala, Principal FIREPRO Incorporated Lawrence Shudak, Principal UL LLC Mike Szamanda, Principal Certification & Training Corporation Carl Wren, Principal Austin Fire Department David Wyatt, Principal Battelle/Pacific Northwest National Library
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TECHNICAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS NOT PRESENT NAME REPRESENTING Joesph Jardin, Chair Fire Department City of New York
Rep. NFPA Fire Service Section Brian Black, Principal BDBlack Codes, Inc. Flora Chen, Principal Hayward Fire Department, CA Paul Donga, Principal Boston Fire Department Thomas Hammerberg, Principal Automatic Fire Alarm Assn., Inc. Ken Isman, Principal National Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc. Michael Kellett, Voting Alternate State of Conneticut David Killian, Principal Walt Disney Parks and Resorts Roy C. Kimball, Principal Brooks Equipment Company, Inc.
Rep. Fire Equipment Manufacturers Association David Klepitch, Principal Whitman, Requerdt & Assoc., LLC Richard Klinker, Principal Klinker & Associates, Inc. James Noveh, Principal Jefferson Parish Fire Department Robert Schmidt, Principal Combustion Science & Engineering, Inc.
GUESTS NAME REPRESENTING Allan Fraser NFPA Jonathan Hart NFPA David Klein US Department of Veterans Affairs
3. Approval of previous meeting minutes. The October 5, 2010 meeting minutes were
approved as written and distributed.
4. Review re-engineered NFPA codes and standards development process. NFPA staff members Amy Cronin and Allan Fraser presented an overview of the new standards development process. Committees will no longer be balloted on every action taken at a meeting. Instead, only changes to the code that are approved at the meeting will be balloted. Complete details on the new process can be found at: www.nfpa.org/regs
5. NFPA 101 new construction/NFPA 5000 requirements correlation. The committee reviewed the draft language developed by staff and created numerous first revisions to correlate NFPA 101 and NFPA 5000 as directed by the Building Code and Safety to Life Correlating Committees.
6. Isolated hazardous area sprinkler requirements. Deferred to related Public Input 101- Log #471.
7. Fire lane requirements – TC on Building Construction (BLD-BLC) task group recommendation. No action required since BLD-BLC took no action on the task group recommendation to move fire lane requirements into Ch. 55 of NFPA 5000.
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8. NFPA 101 public input (formerly public proposals). The committee reviewed the
NFPA 101 public input and developed first revisions. See the First Draft and First Draft Report for details.
9. NFPA 5000 public input (formerly public proposals). The committee reviewed the NFPA 5000 public input and developed first revisions. See the First Draft and First Draft Report for details.
10. Other business. The committee and staff acknowledged Ray Grill for ably filling in as chair for the meeting.
11. Future meetings. The Second Draft (public comment) meeting will tentatively be held
May 21, 2013 at a location to be determined. Details will be provided when they are available.
12. Adjournment. The meeting adjourned at 10:00 a.m. on Wednesday, May 23, 2012.
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ATTACHMENT
A
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Address List No PhoneBuilding Service and Fire Protection Equipment SAF-BSF
Safety to Life
Gregory E. Harrington07/19/2012
SAF-BSF
Joseph M. Jardin
ChairFire Department City of New York16 Dexter CourtHauppauge, NY 11788NFPA Fire Service SectionAlternate: Greg Gottlieb
C 1/1/1991SAF-BSF
Gregory E. Harrington
Secretary (Staff-Nonvoting)National Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471
6/2/1998
SAF-BSF
Brian D. Black
PrincipalBDBlack Codes, Inc.4034 North Hampton Brook DriveHamburg, NY 14075National Elevator Industry Inc.Alternate: Gary L. Nuschler
M 01/10/2008SAF-BSF
Harry L. Bradley
PrincipalMaryland State Fire Marshals Office5 West Riding DriveBel-Air, MD 21014International Fire Marshals Association
E 1/1/1991
SAF-BSF
Pat D. Brock
PrincipalOklahoma State UniversityFire Protection & Safety Technology1424 West Liberty AvenueStillwater, OK 74075Alternate: James D. Brown
SE 1/1/1987SAF-BSF
Flora F. Chen
PrincipalHayward Fire Department, California777 B StreetHayward, CA 94541
E 10/20/2010
SAF-BSF
Paul M. Donga
PrincipalBoston Fire Department115 Southampton StreetBoston, MA 02118
E 7/20/2000SAF-BSF
Raymond A. Grill
PrincipalArup Fire1120 Connecticut Avenue, NW, Suite 200Washington, DC 20036Alternate: John E. Mahoney
SE 3/2/2010
SAF-BSF
Thomas P. Hammerberg
PrincipalAutomatic Fire Alarm Association, Inc.14 Sammy McGhee Boulevard, #103PO Box 1569Jasper, GA 30143Automatic Fire Alarm Association, Inc.Alternate: J. Robert Boyer
M 10/23/2003SAF-BSF
Kenneth E. Isman
PrincipalNational Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc.40 Jon Barrett RoadPatterson, NY 12563Alternate: Jeffrey M. Hugo
M 1/1/1987
SAF-BSF
David A. Killian
PrincipalWalt Disney Parks & ResortsMAPO Building1401 Flower StreetGlendale, CA 91201
U 8/2/2010SAF-BSF
Roy C. Kimball
PrincipalBrooks Equipment Company, Inc.PO Box 481888Charlotte, NC 28269Fire Equipment Manufacturers' Association
M 4/15/2004
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Gregory E. Harrington07/19/2012
SAF-BSF
David L. Klepitch
PrincipalWhitman, Requardt & Associates, LLP801 South Caroline StreetBaltimore, MD 21231
SE 8/2/2010SAF-BSF
Richard L. Klinker
PrincipalKlinker & Associates, Inc.2355 Davidsonville RoadGambrills, MD 21054Alternate: Claudia Hagood
SE 1/1/1981
SAF-BSF
Peter A. Larrimer
PrincipalUS Department of Veterans Affairs323 North Shore Drive, Suite 400Pittsburgh, PA 15212Alternate: Peter Leszczak
U 4/1/1994SAF-BSF
Daniel J. Lazarz
PrincipalEYP Architecture & Engineering470 Atlantic Avenue, 7th FloorBoston, MA 02110
SE 8/9/2011
SAF-BSF
James Noveh
PrincipalJefferson Parish Fire Department1221 Elmwood Park Blvd., Suite 704Jefferson, LA 70123
E 10/20/2010SAF-BSF
Scott E. Panowitz
PrincipalBFPE Internatinal7512 Connelley DriveHanover, MD 21076Fire Suppression Systems Association
IM 03/05/2012
SAF-BSF
Martin H. Reiss
PrincipalThe RJA Group, Inc.1661 Worcester Road, Suite 501Framingham, MA 01701-5401Alternate: Michael Derr
SE 7/1/1993SAF-BSF
Rodger Reiswig
PrincipalTyco/SimplexGrinnell3640 Haddington CourtApopka, FL 32712Alternate: Paul J. Vautour
M 01/10/2008
SAF-BSF
Richard Jay Roberts
PrincipalHoneywell Life Safety3825 Ohio AvenueSt. Charles, IL 60174National Electrical Manufacturers AssociationAlternate: Daniel P. Finnegan
M 10/20/2010SAF-BSF
Kurt A. Ruchala
PrincipalFIREPRO Incorporated1600 Osgood Street, Suite 2-82North Andover, MA 01845
SE 3/1/2011
SAF-BSF
Robert A. Schmidt
PrincipalCombustion Science & Engineering, Inc.8940 Old Annapolis Road, Suite LColumbia, MD 21045
SE 10/28/2008SAF-BSF
Lawrence J. Shudak
PrincipalUL LLC333 Pfingsten RoadNorthbrook, IL 60062-2096
RT 4/15/2004
SAF-BSF
Michael R. Szmanda
PrincipalCertification & Training CorporationM-R-J Security LLC1641 Island CourtWaconia, MN 55387
IM 8/9/2011SAF-BSF
Carl D. Wren
PrincipalAustin Fire DepartmentEmergency Prevention DivisionOne Texas Center, Suite 200505 Barton Springs RoadAustin, TX 78704
E 10/6/2000
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Safety to Life
Gregory E. Harrington07/19/2012
SAF-BSF
David M. Wyatt
PrincipalBattelle/Pacific Northwest National Laboratory2201 South Cleveland StreetKennewick, WA 99338
U 3/2/2010SAF-BSF
Michael Kellett
Voting AlternateState of ConnecticutOffice of the State Fire Marshal1111 Country Club RoadMiddletown, CT 06457-9294Voting Alt. to CT State Fire Marshal Rep
E 7/26/2007
SAF-BSF
J. Robert Boyer
AlternateUTC/Edwards Company62 Airport RoadPittstown, NJ 08867Automatic Fire Alarm Association, Inc.Principal: Thomas P. Hammerberg
M 4/14/2005SAF-BSF
James D. Brown
AlternateOklahoma State Universtiy499 Cordell SouthStillwater, OK 74078Principal: Pat D. Brock
SE 7/24/1997
SAF-BSF
Michael Derr
AlternateThe RJA Group, Inc.Rolf Jensen & Associates, Inc.14502 Greenview Drive, Suite 500Laurel, MD 20708Principal: Martin H. Reiss
SE 10/20/2010SAF-BSF
Daniel P. Finnegan
AlternateSiemens Industry, Inc.Building Technology DivisionFire Safety Unit8 Fernwood RoadFlorham Park, NJ 07932National Electrical Manufacturers AssociationPrincipal: Richard Jay Roberts
M 10/20/2010
SAF-BSF
Greg Gottlieb
AlternateHauppauge Fire District855 Wheeler RoadHauppauge, NY 11788NFPA Fire Service SectionPrincipal: Joseph M. Jardin
C 4/1/1993SAF-BSF
Claudia Hagood
AlternateKlinker and Associates, Inc.2355 Davidsonville RoadGambrills, MD 21054Principal: Richard L. Klinker
SE 7/1/1993
SAF-BSF
Jeffrey M. Hugo
AlternateNational Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc.1088 West Borton RoadEssexville, MI 48732Principal: Kenneth E. Isman
M 7/26/2007SAF-BSF
Peter Leszczak
AlternateUS Department of Veterans Affairs950 Campbell AvenueWest Haven, CT 06516Principal: Peter A. Larrimer
U 11/2/2006
SAF-BSF
John E. Mahoney
AlternateArup1120 Connecticut Avenue NW, Suite 200Washington, DC 20036Principal: Raymond A. Grill
SE 3/1/2011SAF-BSF
Gary L. Nuschler
AlternateOtis Elevator Company5 Farm Springs RoadFarmington, CT 06032-2575National Elevator Industry Inc.Principal: Brian D. Black
M 4/15/2004
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Gregory E. Harrington07/19/2012
SAF-BSF
Paul J. Vautour
AlternateTyco/SimplexGrinnell50 Technology DriveWestminster, MA 01441Principal: Rodger Reiswig
M 03/05/2012SAF-BSF
Steven Orlowski
Nonvoting MemberNational Association of Home Builders1201 15th Street, NWWashington, DC 20005-2800Alternate: Lawrence Brown
U 10/18/2011
SAF-BSF
Lawrence Brown
Alt. to Nonvoting MemberNational Association of Home Builders1201 15th Street, NWWashington, DC 20005-2800National Association of Home BuildersPrincipal: Steven Orlowski
U 10/18/2011SAF-BSF
Gregory E. Harrington
Staff LiaisonNational Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471
6/2/1998
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NFPA 101/5000
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NFPA 101/5000BUILDING SERVICE AND FIRE
PROTECTION EQUIPMENT COMMITTEE
May 21, 2013
San Diego, CA
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At this and all NFPA committee meetings we are concerned with yourmeetings we are concerned with your safety
If the fire alarm sounds, please proceed to an exit
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Members, please verify/update your contact informationcontact information
Use of tape recorders or other means capable of reproducing verbatim transcriptions of this meeting is not permitted
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GuestsAll guests are asked to sign in andAll guests are asked to sign in and
identify their affiliations
Participation is limited to TC members or those individuals who have previously requested time to address the committee
Other participation is granted at theOther participation is granted at the discretion of the Chair
Guest seating is located around the room
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Members categorized in ANY interest category who have been retained tocategory who have been retained to represent the interests of ANOTHER interest category must declare those interests to the committee and refrain from voting, both in the meeting and on the ballot itemthe ballot item
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General ProceduresGeneral ProceduresFollow Robert’s Rules of Order
Discussion requires a motion
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Motions for Ending Debate - Move Previous Question or “Call thePrevious Question or Call the Question”Not in order when another has the floor
Requires a second
This motion is not debatable and does not automatically stop debateautomatically stop debate
A 2/3 affirmative vote immediately closes debate and returns to the original motion on the floor
Less then 2/3 allows debate to continue
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Committee member actions:
M b dd th h i Member addresses the chair Receives recognition from the chair Introduces the motion Another member seconds the
motionmotion
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Committee chair actions:
States the motionCalls for discussionEnsures all issues have been heardTakes the voteA th lt f th tAnnounces the result of the vote
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Technical Committee on Building Service and Fire Protection Equipmentq pConsumer, 1 Member: 3%Enforcer, 8 Members: 27%Insurance, 1 Member: 3%Installer/Maintainer, 2 Members: 7%Manufacturer, 6 Members: 20%R h & T ti 1 M b 3%Research & Testing, 1 Member: 3%Special Expert, 8 Members: 27%User, 3 Members: 10%Labor, 0 Members: 0%
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Timeline
C t St (S d D ft) Comment Stage (Second Draft):Public Comment Closing Date: 05/03/2013Second Draft Meeting: TodayPosting of Second Draft for TC Balloting: 08/23/2013Posting of Second Draft for NITMAM: 01/03/2014
Tech Session Preparation:NITMAM Closing Date: 02/07/2014NITMAM /CAM P ti D t 04/04/2014NITMAM /CAM Posting Date: 04/04/2014NFPA Annual Meeting: 06/09-12/2014 (Las Vegas)
Standards Council Issuance: Issuance of Documents with CAM: 08/14/2014 edition date
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Changes in Terms:New Term Old Term
Comment Stage ROC Stage
Public Comment Public Comment
Second Draft Meeting ROC Meeting
Second RevisionCommittee Comment or Accepted
Public Comment
Committee Comment (a Comment reported as RejectedCommittee Comment(a Second Revision that failed
ballot)
(a Comment reported as Rejected due to failed ballot)
Second Draft Report ROC
Second Draft ROC Draft
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T h i l C itt A ti• Technical Committee Actions:
Resolving Public Comments Committee Action and Committee Statement
Creating Second Revisions
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• Resolving Public Comments (See Regs §4 4 8 1)(See Regs §4.4.8.1)Committee develops a Committee Action Accept
Reject but see…
Reject
Reject but Holdeject but o d
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• Committee StatementsCommittee must clearly indicate reasons for not
i h d i d/ iaccepting the recommendation and/or point to a relevant Second RevisionAll Public Comments Actions must have a
Committee StatementMust include a valid technical reasonNo vague references to “intent”E l i h th b itt ’ b t ti ti iExplain how the submitter’s substantiation is
inadequateNeither Public Comment Actions nor Committee
Statements get balloted
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• Create a Second Revision (SR)Committee wants to make a change (toCommittee wants to make a change (to
add, delete or modify) the First Draft
Committee develops a Committee Statement (CS) substantiating the change
Each SR gets balloted
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No “new material” after the Public Input Stage since it hasn’t had the benefit of gpublic review
What constitutes new material is decided by the Technical Committee or Correlating Committee
Adding “new material” at the Comment gStage could successfully be challenged through appeal to the Standards Council
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Formal voting V ti d i ti i d tVoting during meeting is used to
establish a sense of agreement (simple majority)Secured by letter ballot (2/3
agreement)g )Only the results of the formal ballot
determine the official position of the committee on the Second Draft
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Ballots are on the Second Revisions (SR) ONLYPublic Comment Actions and Committee
Statements not ballotedStatements not ballotedReference materials are available - Second Draft, Public Comments, First Draft Report
Ballot form allows you to vote: Affirmative on all SRAffirmative on all SR with exceptions specifically
notednoted Ballot form provides a column for affirmative
with commentNote: This box needs to be checked only if there
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Initial ballot
Circulation of negatives and comments
Members may change votes during circulation
Second Revision that fails letter ballot is designated as a Committee Comment (indesignated as a Committee Comment (in the 2nd Draft Report), marked as “Reject” and deleted from the Second Draft.
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If a Second Revision fails ballot and the subject text was a result of a First Draft h S l t B ll t i d t dchange, a Supplementary Ballot is conducted
Ballot asks TC if it still favors the First Revision change reported in the First Draft
If Yes, same change appears as Second Revision and is shown in the Second Draft
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Harrington, Greg
From: Cote, RonSent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 2:33 PMTo: Bigda, Kristin; Harrington, Greg; Fraser, Allan; Vecchiarelli, TracyCc: Solomon, RobertSubject: SAF Agenda Item for Second Draft Meetings
Follow Up Flag: Follow upFlag Status: Flagged
Please add the subject of Definitions to each SAF/BLD technical committee Second Draft meeting agenda for which you serve as staff liaison. Each Technical Committee chair is asked to identify a member to serve on the definitions task group. The Minutes item from the SAF-AAC Correlating Committee’s November 6, 2012 meeting follows:
Definitions. The committee agreed to have each defined term assigned to a specific technical committee so that committee would have responsibility for the maintenance and revision of such term. A task group is to be formed after the Second Draft meetings of the current revision cycle. The task group will report to the Correlating Committee (CC) its recommendations for the definitions assignments in time for the CC to review the recommendations at its first meeting of the 2018 revision cycle. Each Technical Committee chair is asked to identify a member to serve on the task group.
Allan and Tracy, the BLD-AAC Correlating Committee asked that same be done by the NFPA 5000 TCs. Ron Coté, P.E. Principal Life Safety Engineer NFPA - Quincy, MA USA
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From: Cote, RonSent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 2:43 PMTo: Bigda, Kristin; Harrington, Greg; Fraser, Allan; Vecchiarelli, TracyCc: Solomon, RobertSubject: Hazardous Materials - Agenda Item
Follow Up Flag: Follow upFlag Status: Flagged
Please add the subject of Hazardous Areas to each SAF/BLD technical committee Second Draft meeting agenda for which you serve as staff liaison. Each Technical Committee is asked to decide whether it wants to participate in a task group on the subject of hazardous materials. The Minutes item from the SAF-AAC Correlating Committee’s November 6, 2012 meeting follows:
Hazardous Materials. Jeff Tubbs raised the issue of whether NFPA 101 should address hazardous materials (as done in NFPA 5000 Chapter 34). The committee noted that health hazards are not within the scope of NFPA 101. Conflicts exist among the NFPA codes. It was agreed to:
o Add the subject of hazardous materials to the agenda for all NFPA 101 technical committee Second Draft meetings
o Gather comments from each technical committee including whether it wants to participate in a task group on the subject of hazardous materials
o Report results to the Correlating Committee at its Second Draft review meeting o Ask the Standards Council, after the Correlating Committee’s Second Draft meeting, to
establish a task group from the membership of the NFPA 1, 30, 101, 400 and 5000 committees to address conflicts and overlapping requirements related to hazardous materials
Allan and Tracy, the BLD-AAC Correlating Committee asked that same be done by the NFPA 5000 TCs. Ron Coté, P.E. Principal Life Safety Engineer NFPA - Quincy, MA USA
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