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Post Levy Employer Engagement Prepared by: Stuart Pyle PeerMeetUp – London 18 th of November 2018 www.straplan.co.uk [email protected] Everything Connected!

New Employer Engagement for Apprenticeship Training Providers at Peer Meetup 18th November 2016

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Page 1: New Employer Engagement for Apprenticeship Training Providers at Peer Meetup 18th November 2016

Post Levy Employer

EngagementPrepared by:Stuart Pyle

PeerMeetUp – London18th of November 2018

[email protected]

Everything Connected!

Page 2: New Employer Engagement for Apprenticeship Training Providers at Peer Meetup 18th November 2016

Background• Stuart Pyle Cat WranglerMBA MIOD FIRP. Director of Straplan Limited * Successfully motivating “change” only occurs when buy-in is absolute, and everyone is involved and accountable. Fear is overcome and there is total clarity of vision and purpose. • It is my long held belief that “Change“ is not prescribed it is evoked.• ‘Evoking change’ requires the engagement of individuals and groups through the art of conversation and questions to initiate thought and develop collaborative inclusive and owned solutions.

Straplan: Everything Connected https://uk.linkedin.com/in/stuart-pyle-1b22a6b

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Context

Apprenticeship

Adult Education

Budget (AEB)ESF

RoAAO PQQ

RoTO PQQ

RoATP Training Provider

RoAAO EPA

RoTO Training

Providers

Apprenticeship

Assessment

RoTO ITT

RoTO PQQ Sup

RoTO PQQ Main

RoTO PQQEmployer

RoATP ITT

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Levy Employers

Levy Employers

HMRCDigital

Account Service

SFA

RoATP Training Provider

RoAAO EPA

RoTO Training

ProvidersTraining

Voucher

£ £

£

Assessment

Apprentice

£

Awarding Organisation

Standards

£

0.5% Claim

Registration

Certificate

Page 5: New Employer Engagement for Apprenticeship Training Providers at Peer Meetup 18th November 2016

Non-Levy Employers

Non-Levy Employers

SFA Primes/ Colleges

RoATP Training Provider

RoAAO EPA

Training

10% Contribution

£

£

Assessment

Apprentice

Awarding Organisation

Standards

£ Claim

Registration

Certificate

£

£

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Levy Employer Response Existing internal apprenticeship delivery

infrastructure – business as usual Existing external apprenticeship delivery

arrangements Newly interested - who want value for

money Collaborative approach to development of an

apprenticeship programme Viewing as a mechanism to make money from

self-delivery Make money by negotiating provider

fees (through the use of rebates) Disinterested – Just another tax

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Employer Barriers Lack of Employer Knowledge

How are the employers going to know what to do? Or understand their responsibilities?

Who is going to advise them? Do they need a management information system like PICs to manage the delivery and compliance?

Who is going to police them? – Do they come under Ofsted?

Employer Behaviour Adopting of income generation/fee remission

strategies. Attitude to 10% employer contribution Attitude to removal of AGE Grant (July 2017)

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DAS Employer Issues

Practical problems Agency/temporary workers Umbrella organisations Self employed staff Part time staff

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End Point Assessment What if they fail? Does the qualification standard

registered dictate the EPA organisation?

What about the EPA and the Legislation?

How does EPA link to EQA? - What if the EQA says your great and all your learners fail EPA?

Who pays for retests?

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Qualification Standards Qualification Standards

What qualifications are you delivering? Employers can define and develop

qualifications with the Training Provider suggesting that Awarding Bodies

Frameworks vs Standards What does a standard look like? – What

is the learning journey? Level 2 Maths and English?

How are we going to achieve Level 2 equivalent maths?

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Opportunity Employer relationships are key

to levy employers – its employer choice!!!

Consultative style support for employers to develop relationships – Employers need help! - Added Value

Bespoke Learning (Valued courses) to offset employer costs. – Added Value

Low cost approach – Under cutting through fees and rebates to make the process cost neutral/ profitable to the employer – Race to the Bottom.

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Thank you for listening.

Questions