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What to Say to Your Friends Who Are Considering Divorce Kevin Karlson JD PhD

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A comprehensive overview of the research about what happens before, during, and after divorce and a focus on exploding the popular myths about marriage and divorce.

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What to Say to Your Friends Who Are Considering Divorce

Kevin Karlson JD PhD

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Who Am I and Why Am I Qualified to Talk about Divorce

Education PhD Psychology JD Law degree

Experience 30 years experience as consultant,

marriage counselor, child custody expert, divorce recovery

Personal experience Divorced

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How do experts predict divorce?By watching couples interact

A one to one ratio between positive and negative interactions (for happy couples the ratio of positive/negative interactions is 20 to 1).

Mutual criticism (personal attacks on character, NOT complaints about specific behavior).

Defensiveness (“no I didn’t”, “yes but…”, “let’s talk about what YOU did…” or other denials of any personal responsibility).

Stonewalling (refusing to talk in order to avoid conflict). Contempt for the partner (eye rolling, sarcastic humor,

mocking).

The presence of these 5 behaviors in any couple are DANGER signs: Couples who act like this have an 85% probability of divorce within

2 years.

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What are the other predictors of divorce?

People who have second thoughts before the wedding are more likely to divorce

People who fail to reach detailed agreements about money (a budget), and children are more likely to divorce (especially in 2nd marriages which are high risk anyway)

Biggest risks: years 5-7 and 10-12 of a marriage

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Marital unhappiness is temporary

Researchers interviewed a large group of married couples A significant number of those couples

described their current marriage as “very unhappy”

When these same “ very unhappy” couples were interviewed 2 years later, more than 80% of them described their marriage as “very HAPPY”

Lesson: When in doubt, do nothing and wait; the storm will pass.

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What does Godly marriage look like? Paul writes in Ephesians 5:

21 And the Spirit makes it possible to submit humbly to one another out of respect for the Anointed. 

22 Wives, it should be no different with your husbands. Submit to them as you do to the Lord, 23 for God has given husbands a sacred duty to lead as the Anointed leads the church and serves as the head. (The church is His body; He is her Savior.) 24 So wives should submit to their husbands, respectfully, in all things, just as the church yields to the Anointed One.

25-26 Husbands, you must love your wives so deeply, purely, and sacrificially that we can understand it only when we compare it to the love the Anointed One has for His bride, the church. 

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Divorce is a spiritual issue Marital difficulties are ALWAYS a spiritual

issue with real world symptoms Marital harmony is a fruit of the Spirit

For those who follow Him and live in the Spirit, these characteristics or fruits are a gift from God. As we grow in the faith, we find that we belong to God and can walk daily in the Spirit. The Holy Spirit produces a different kind of fruit: unconditional love, joy, peace, patience, kindheartedness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. You won’t find any law opposed to fruit like this.  Galatians 5:21-24 

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Discord and divorce are from the Enemy

Worldly wisdom may promise the good life, but it leads to chaos and destruction every time. Ultimately true wisdom comes from God. Where do you think your fighting and endless conflict come from? Don’t you think that they originate in the constant pursuit of gratification that rages inside each of you like an uncontrolled militia? James 4:1-3 

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Spiritual Warfare-general principles

We wrestle not with flesh and blood but…▪ Ephesians 6:12

All our thoughts are not our own▪ Matthew 16:22-23

Take every thought captive▪ 2 Corinthians 10:5

Separate them from the evil within▪ Romans 7: 15-17

Forgive; it’s not optional▪ Luke 23:34 Matthew 6:14-15

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Predictors of divorce:the spiritual truths

PSYCHOLOGICAL FACTOR Equal #

positives/negatives Criticism (character

attacks) Defensiveness Stonewalling Contempt

POSSIBLE SPIRITS

Unforgiveness? Bitterness

Accusation ? Pride? Stubborness? Murder with the tongue

?

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Common spirits in conflicts

Recognizing the spirits at work pride un-forgiveness bitterness accusation control/domination rebellion murder of the tongue

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Spiritual warfare-tools

Recognize the spirit(s) in you Repent Receive forgiveness

THEN Respond in love Say “No” to the flashcards of past

wrongs Resist when they return

▪ James 4:7 Replace them with Scripture

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Walking it out

When you stumble Repent Forgive yourself, God has; you’re only

human Pray Start over

Pray for your spouse every day; in front your kids Ask God to bless them

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Most important lessons

Your spouse may never change Your changed response to every

interaction will change the relationship over time

Be diligent, patient, believe that God will move

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Forgiveness is giving up the hope for a better yesterday...Faith is giving up the expectation that tomorrow will be just like today.

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Exploding the myths of divorce: The truth

What if the Enemy wins this battle, an d divorce seems likely

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What are the legal options?

Traditional divorce Each spouse hires a lawyer File paperwork; get served Discovery: documents, depositions, experts Hearings, mediation, trial

Collaborative divorce 2 lawyers, financial expert, MHP No court, ever Series of meetings to settle money, property, kids

New option Pre-divorce mediation (parties only; no lawyers)

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How long will it take?

The prevailing myth: 60 days or so The truth: average divorce in Dallas

area now takes about 15 MONTHS; more if it is a high conflict case

Collaborative cases are shorter

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How much will it cost?

The myth: a few thousand dollars The truth: the average US divorce

costs $15K in legal and expert fees (average family income is around $60K; average net worth is about $250K, property is usually cars, house, 401K)

Increasing net worth increases divorce costs: Up to about $5M, fees are around $100K North of $5M, fees rapidly increase to

>$1M

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My spouse hurt me deeply, will I get justice?

The myth: I will get to tell my story to the judge, and he will side with me and give me everything I want

The truth: Never happens No spouse gets their “day in court” to tell

their story Lawyers and judges are obligated to solve

the LEGAL issues: property division, custody/visitation, money– period

Bad facts lead to 55/45 property division

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What about custody and visitation?

The myth: My spouse was a jerk and the kids will never have to see him again

The truth: Unless dad was abusive or substance abuser (confirmed by 3rd party/experts), dad will get at least 1st, 3rd, and 5th weekends and summer visitation Parents can agree to 50/50 visitation 10 years after divorce, 78% of children

reside primarily with mothers

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Life after Divorce:More myths exploded

And after the legal divorce has concluded, then what

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Stages of Divorce Recovery

EMOTIONAL

Denial Anger Bargaining Depression Acceptance Forgiveness

SPIRITUAL

Confusion, Fear Bitterness Doubt; Fear Oppression; Death Faith, Peace Forgiveness

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Challenges and Changes

For adults Personal-Roles, Relationships, Future Plans Emotional Family/Parental Economic

For kids Loss of an intact family Mom’s house/Dad’s house Ongoing conflict between parents Emotional risks

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Post Divorce Challenges for Adults

Personal-Roles, Relationships, Future Plans

Emotional Family/Parental Economic

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Emotional challenges

Nearly everyone recovers; many grow

Recovery takes time and faith Recovery requires time alone Recovery requires self care Recovery requires loving not

romantic relationships Recovery requires a new vision for

the future Recovery is a spiritual as well as

emotional challenge

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Personal challenges

Discover/create a new identity Re/discover your personal

Vision Purpose/Mission Values/Beliefs Goals and a strategy for achieving them Career Epitaph

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Relational challenges

Friends What kind of a friend are you? What kind of friends do you want? What kind of friends do you have now?

Parents What kind of a parent are you? How do you treat your own parents? What kind of parent do you want to be?

Partners What did you learn about yourself as a partner from

your marriage? CAPT; Love languages What do you want to do differently next time?

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Financial challenges

Your financial vision for your future Budgeting Being a good steward Tithing

(Read “The Blessed Life” by Pastor Robert)

A shared financial vision (and budget) is critical to marital peace and success

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Spiritual challenges

Marriage belongs to the Kingdom; divorce belongs to the Enemy’s kingdom

Spiritual challenges/temptations of divorce Paul in Galatians 5:▪ It’s clear that our flesh entices us into practicing

some of its most heinous acts: participating in corrupt sexual relationships, impurity, unbridled lust, 20 idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, arguing, jealousy, anger, selfishness, contentiousness, division, 21 envy of others’ good fortune, drunkenness, drunken revelry, and other shameful vices that plague humankind. 

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Most common spiritual after-effects of divorce

Un-forgiveness Spirits of bitterness Spirits of accusation Spirits of control/domination Murder with the tongue

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Post Divorce Challenges for Kids

Loss of an intact family Mom’s house/Dad’s house Ongoing conflict between parents Emotional risks (for about 1 of 3 kids)▪ Four times more like to have problems with peers▪ Three times more likely to need counseling▪ Two times more likely to drop out of school▪ As adults, two times more likely to be suicidal

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Post Divorce Risks for Kids

Loss of an intact family Mom’s house/Dad’s house Ongoing conflict between parents Emotional risks (for about 1 of 3 kids)▪ Four times more like to have problems with peers▪ Three times more likely to need counseling▪ Two times more likely to drop out of school▪ As adults, two times more likely to be suicidal

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Special risks for fatherless kids

▪ Four times more likely to be poor

▪ More likely to have behavior problems

▪ Mother is more likely to be depressed

▪ More likely to experience asthma/ respiratory illnesses

More likely to be victim of abuse

More likely to be sexually active as a teen

More likely to abuse drugs/alcohol

More likely to end up in jail

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Kevin Karlson JD PhDEmail: [email protected]: 972.839.2394

For more information

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When All Else Fails: Minimizing the Damage Before, During, and After Divorce

Based on the book by Dr. Karlson