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Social Networking(s) Benjamin Joffe | CEO, Plus Eight Star China Internet Forum, Beijing | 2009.11

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An introduction about the variety of social networks out there (like cheese and wine, they come in many styles). This was an introduction to a panel on social networking in China at the China Internet Forum in November 2009. Some data is included, notably on gaming.

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Social Networking(s)

Benjamin Joffe | CEO, Plus Eight StarChina Internet Forum, Beijing | 2009.11

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Introduction

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ベンジャミン

本杰明

벤자민

Benjamin Joffe

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4 years

1 year

4 years

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Consulting | Startups | Community

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| Plus Eight Star

• “Innovation Arbitrage”• Internet & Mobile Digital strategy

• Best practices from China, Japan & Korea

• Published reports• Inside Cyworld (2007)

• Inside Tencent (2009)

• Inside Alibaba (upcoming)

• Contact• [email protected]

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References

EUROPE USA

ASIA

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References

EUROPE USA

ASIA

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Work With Startups: Cmune

• Making the 3D Web happen

– fbFund winner

– First 3D FPS game on Facebook

– #1 Widget on Apple.com

– Virtual Goods

• Check it out!– www.cmune.com

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Most Advanced 3D Game on FacebookParadise Paintball by Cmune

http://apps.facebook.com/paradisepaintball/

Disclosure: I am an investor & partner of Cmune

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31 events

111 speakers

3,500 members

1,500 companies

Mobile Monday Beijing

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31 events

111 speakers

3,500 members

1,500 companies

Mobile Monday Beijing

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Social Networking(s)

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Quiz! Who is on…

• Facebook

• QQ / Q Zone

• RenRen / Xiaonei

• Kaixin001

• Twitter

• A matchmaking site?

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What is a social network?

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Social Networking(s)

• Users Demographics / Geography

• Identity Real-name / Nickname

• Openness Closed / Walled Garden / Open

• Platform Web / Mobile / Cross-platform

• Revenue mix Ads / Virtual Goods / Games

• Results Profitability

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Confused? It’s ok!

• Everything is converging!

– Social Networks

– Blogs

– Online Media

– Games

– Virtual Worlds

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I don’t know what is a SNS but…

• There are numerous best practices to leverage

– From each service category

– From each specific service

• Who do you benchmark?

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Ideas from Japan

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Revenue vs. Profit (2008)

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Mobile Game Town

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Source: DeNA

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Gree

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Gree Home

Advertising

Avatars & items

Games

Advertising & Affiliates | 25%

B2C virtual goods | 75%

60% avatars40% games

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Mixi

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Mobile Open PlatformsMixi: Oct 27, 2009

– 39 mobile applications released – mostly games

City BuildingBy Liveware

Harvest MoonBy Liveware

ShopkeeperBy Geisha Tokyo

FurauniBy Konami

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Some Numbers

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Asia: 7 Billion Dollars!USA: $1 bln (Source: Inside Virtual Goods, Oct 2009)

Sharks with Laser Beams vs. Irritated Sea BassAsia’s Virtual Goods Market Estimate for 2009

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Chinese Online Games Companies

• Listed on NASDAQ• NETEASE NTES $4.82B

• SHANDA SNDA $3.11B

• SHANDA GAMES GAME $2.75B

• PERFECT WORLD PWRD $2.25B

• CHANGYOU CYOU $1.65B

• GIANT INTERACTIVE GA $1.71B

• Listed on HKSE• TENCENT 3888 $34.3B

• NET DRAGON 0777 $0.34B

• KINGSOFT 0700 $1.07B

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Chinese Online Games vs. ROW

• And the total is…• 8 Gaming Companies $17.7 B

• Tencent $34.3B

• TOTAL $52.0B

• Comparables• Activision Blizzard $14.1B

• Electronic Arts $6.05B

• Ubisoft $1.56B

• Take Two $0.94B

• TOTAL $22.6B

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Chinese Online Games vs. ROW

• And the total is…• 8 Gaming Companies $17.7 B

• Tencent $34.3B

• TOTAL $52.0B

• Comparables• Activision Blizzard $14.1B

• Electronic Arts $6.05B

• Ubisoft $1.56B

• Take Two $0.94B

• TOTAL $22.6B

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Chinese Online Games vs. ROW

• And the total is…• 8 Gaming Companies $17.7 B

• Tencent $34.3B

• TOTAL $52.0B

• Comparables

eBay$31B

Time-Warner$38B

Yahoo$23B

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Japanese SNS

• Mixi $1.1 billion

• DeNA $2.0 billion

• GREE $2.2 billion

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EA acquires Playfish

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($300 mln + $100 mln option)

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Social Games Going West

• Facebook Developers: Low Entry Barrier!

Rank Company Apps Location

#7 6 Waves 104 apps Hong Kong

#30 Rekoo 2 apps Beijing

#36 Elex 7 apps Beijing

#229 Tyler Projects 1 app Singapore

• Strong in China & entering Russia, Japan, etc.

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Social Games Going East Too?

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Quotes from Elex

• High productivity

– “Anyone is able to develop social games at Playfish level”

• 12 languages versions

– “We can localize our game in different language versions in 1 day”

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Evolutions?

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Evolutions3D Social Games? Cross-Platform Games?

Artist’s view of3D Farming Game

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Virtual Currencies in anyOnline Media

• HoopChina

– Basket-Ball vertical

– 90% UGC

– E-commerce

– Virtual currency “CA” (for “calorie”) earned via activity

– Web games

PORTAL ONLINE STORE

WEB GAMES

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Panel Discussion

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Panel Discussion

• Panelists

– Allen WANG CEO BabyTree

– Yu Wang Founder P1.CN

– Allen ZHU Partner GSR Ventures

– Qian LIU VP of BD KaiXin001

– Felix YANG President Beijing IWOM Marketing & Planning

• Moderator

– Benjamin Joffe CEO Plus Eight Star

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