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Chair: Professor Roderick A Smith, ScD, FREng :Secretary: Rebecca Cox, HACC Adviser: Martyn Hurst
Heathrow Airport Consultative Committee is an advisory body constituted by Heathrow Airport Limited in respect of Heathrow Airport
in accordance with Section 35 of the Civil Aviation Act 1982 (as amended by the Airports Act 1986)
Heathrow Airport Consultative Committee
Heathrow Academy, Building 1154 Newall Road, Hounslow, Middlesex TW6 2RQ
T: +44 (0)208 745 7589
E: hacc@hacc.org.uk
W: lhr-acc.org
Minutes of the HACC meeting held on Wednesday 12 July 2017 at 2.00pm, Heathrow Academy, Heathrow Airport
1. Apologies for absence
Apologies were received from Nick Naylor (South Bucks District Council) and
Carol Manduca (Runnymede Borough Council) who sent a deputy.
Members present:
Roderick Smith (Chair)
Onkar Sahota – London Assembly
Chris Turrell – Bracknell Forest Borough Council
James Swindlehurst – Slough Borough Council
John Stewart – HACAN / Clear Skies
John Pope – Heathrow Airport Transport Forum
Kathleen Croft – Local Focus Forum
Gerry Ceaser - Local Authorities Aircraft Noise Council
Mark Izatt - PSSC
John Gurney - TUC
Susan Parsons – ABTA
Simon Arthur - Airline Operators Committee
Brian Yates - Which?
Steve Curran – London Councils
Peter Mason - London Borough of Ealing
Charlotte Morley – Surrey Heath Borough Council
David Linette - London Borough of Richmond-upon-Thames
John Bowden - Royal Borough of Windsor and Maidenhead
HAL representatives
John Holland-Kaye - CEO
Matt Gorman – Director of Sustainability and Environment
Rob Gray - Director of Community and Stakeholder Relations
Rachel Thomas – Airspace Strategy Manager
In attendance:
Tim May - DfT
Linda Gillham – Runnymede Borough Council (Deputy)
Jeff Halliwell – Chair, Consumer Challenge Board
Heather Pennock - ABTA
Martyn Hurst – HACC Technical Adviser
Rebecca Cox – HACC Secretary
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2. Minutes
Approved: the minutes of the meeting held on 5 April 2017.
3. Action points
The action points from the previous meeting were all completed or ongoing.
4. Report from the Chair
Noted: that Susan Parsons would shortly be retiring from ABTA and therefore
stepping down from HACC. The Chair thanked Susan for her many years of service
during which she had shared her knowledge and expertise, and welcomed her
replacement, Heather Pennock. A dinner would be held after the meeting on 11
October to mark Susan’s contribution. The Chair, Technical Adviser and Secretary
had attended the annual UKACCs meeting in Glasgow and a summary of all that
was discussed would be circulated. The Chair drew members attention to the
CAA’s newly published survey on aviation noise impacts and invited members to
respond individually (https://consultations.caa.co.uk/policy-
development/aviation-noise-impacts/).
At this point, the agenda order was altered.
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Consumer Challenge Board
Received: presentation from Jeff Halliwell, Chair of the Consumer Challenge
Board.
Noted: that the Aviation Act 2012 mandated that the CAA should have a primary
duty of care to the consumer. In recognition that Heathrow technically operated
as a monopoly, HAL were required to submit a five year business plan for approval,
which included any changes or developments whose costs would be passed on to
the passenger. The primary role of the Consumer Challenge Board was to ensure
that in preparing this business plan Heathrow fully accounted for the needs of
present and future consumers of its services. The Board was to scrutinise and
critique HAL’s engagement with these consumers during this process, and to
provide a final report to the CAA, which would also consider to what extent the
result of this engagement was included in the final business plan. Jeff Halliwell
outlined his own relevant experience, and that of the other members of the Board
who had backgrounds in business planning, strategy and oversight, consumer
advocacy and engagement and in depth market research. The Consumer
Challenge Board was to be independent of HAL, the airlines and the CAA, and
would not report to the CAA except in its final report. It would be consumer-
centred, evidence-based, objective and constructive and would actively engage
with Heathrow and all stakeholders during the period that the business plan was
being put together. To date, its work had focused on learning about aviation,
identifying the stakeholders and meeting with HAL, the CAA and the airlines. It
had started to form some views on HAL’s level of engagement so far and a recently
granted one year extension to the H7 timetable was welcomed as it would offer
Heathrow the opportunity to engage effectively with future consumers such as
the new types of passenger who might begin using the airport once new airlines
commenced operations. As a purely consumer focused body, it had no remit
around pollution or noise and its only consideration with regard to the new
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runway would be the consumers’ willingness to pay for expansion, as with any
other proposal in the business plan.
Expansion of runway capacity
Received: an update from Rob Gray, Community and Stakeholder Relations
Director.
Noted: that following the general election there remained significant cross-party
support for the expansion of Heathrow, though the timescale had slipped as
Government Committees had to be reformed. HAL’s proposals to reconstitute
HACC to create the Community Engagement Board, whilst retaining HACC’s
original remit, were discussed. This Board would have statutory duties as outlined
in the Airports Commission’s report, and would operate under an independent
Chair to enable local communities to contribute effectively. It was hoped that this
transition would happen as soon as possible. HACC members were asked to
provide feedback on the proposals within two weeks as part of a transparent
consultative process which would necessitate the engagement of all members.
Concerns were raised by many present that the timescale suggested was much too
short and that members were being asked to give feedback on the basis of a verbal
update at this meeting.
Agreed: that a paper should be produced by HAL clearly outlining the precise
proposals for the transition of HACC to the Community Engagement Board,
including how the existing remit of HACC would be incorporated. This should be
circulated to the Steering Committee for initial consideration and then more
widely to HACC members for comment. Responses from HACC members should
then be forwarded to the HACC Chair prior to the Steering Committee meeting on
20 September, which would be attended by Rob Gray.
Heathrow Airspace Change Consultation
Received: a presentation from Rachel Thomas, Airspace Strategy Manager.
Noted: that Heathrow would require a highly effective airspace change design
process in planning for a third runway. This process would have to run parallel
and be complementary with the planning process and an airspace change
consultation was being developed with the consultation on the third runway. This
consultation would be staged, firstly looking at the principles of airspace change,
then at the geographic envelopes illustrating the likely movements in each of the
surrounding areas, and then on the options for the routes. The aim of the
consultation would be to reach as many people as possible and there would be a
comprehensive publicity process in order to achieve this.
Agreed: that the slides, which could not be shown at the meeting due to technical
problems, should be circulated with the minutes.
DfT policy update
Received: an update from Tim May, DfT.
Noted: that the Government was currently reviewing the responses to the
consultation on airspace policy which ran from February to May this year and a
report would be published in the Autumn. Following the recent consultation on
night flights at Heathrow, Gatwick and Stansted, a decision would be announced
in the next few days. The Government’s approach for the planned consultation
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on aviation strategy was expected to be announced shortly and this would consist
of a number of consultations over an eighteen month period.
Consultation on core elements of the regulatory framework to support capacity
expansion at Heathrow – closing date 22/09/2017
https://consultations.caa.co.uk/economic-regulation/core-elements-of-the-
regulatory-framework-to-suppo/
Noted: that this was a wide-reaching consultation aimed at incentivising Heathrow
to develop the third runway in the most cost-effective way. A summary from the
Technical Adviser would be circulated shortly.
Agreed: that members should provide feedback to Martyn Hurst before 11
August. A draft response would then be drawn up and agreed by the Steering
Committee.
Cranford Agreement
Received: an update from Matt Gorman, Director of Sustainability and
Environment.
Noted: that since this agreement was made in the 1950s, planes had not been
permitted to take off heading East on the northern runway. In February this year,
the Government agreed that the Cranford Agreement should be removed. In
order for take offs to resume, more taxiways were required further to the East on
the runway. A decision had been made to include the planning application for this
in the DCO process. It was anticipated that planning would be granted in 2021,
with alternation on Easterly operations then commencing in 2022/23. In response
to a question from Cllr Bowden, assurances were made that this was being carried
out in the quickest possible way and Matt Gorman offered to discuss this further
outside of the meeting if required.
Heathrow Chief Executive Officer’s report
Received: a report from John Holland-Kaye.
Noted: an update on the key issues at the halfway point of the year. The
investment in people continued, with the focus on mental health and wellbeing,
training colleagues to support each other and passengers. Health and safety
scores had improved and the aim was now to make this a priority for all service
providers at Heathrow. The structural changes which reduced the number of
senior managers together with skills development for frontline colleagues had
resulted in a diversity of talent coming through. In terms of service, Heathrow had
just been voted the best major airport in Europe by passengers and satisfaction
levels continued to improve. The recent BA crisis was challenging but
demonstrated the efficacy of the command and control systems in place. The
collaborative experiences would be used to develop closely integrated
contingency plans for the future. In the areas of PRMs and Border Force it was
recognised that there was still work to do in order to improve passenger
experience. Passenger numbers had increased by 4% on last year, which would
assist with the affordability challenge set by the Government in relation to the
expansion. Recent initiatives within Heathrow Express had been well received and
had resulted in a 13% increase in the use of this service. HAL was working with
the DfT and TfL to improve public transport surface access, which would benefit
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the passenger, and shortly it would be possible to use Oyster cards on Heathrow
Express. Late running flights had been managed more tightly and a reduction had
been achieved. The fly quiet, fly cleaner league tables had also proved effective
in addressing issues related to specific airlines.
12. HACC Steering Committee
Noted: the minutes of the meeting of the HACC Steering Committee held on 19
June 2017.
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Passenger Services Sub-Committee
i) Received: a verbal report from Mark Izatt, Chair of the PSSC.
Noted: that presentations had been made this morning on the new flight
connections centre and the new departure lounge at Terminal 3, as well as a
presentation from Jeff Halliwell, Chair of the Consumer Challenge Board.
Following the BA IT outage, the focus of the PSSC meeting in October would be
resilience.
ii) Noted: the minutes of the meeting held on 5 April 2017.
14. Heathrow Community Noise Forum
Noted: the minutes of the meeting held on 24 May 2017.
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Air Quality at Heathrow
Received: Heathrow air quality monitoring report for Q1 in 2017.
Noted: in particular the data relating to the apparent deterioration in air quality
in Q4 of 2016 as raised at the last meeting.
Aircraft noise complaints
Noted: the Heathrow noise complaints report for Q2 in 2017.
Late flight departures
Noted: that there had been improvements since the last meeting. Future reports
would continue to include data on flights departing after midnight.
Agreed: that future reports should also include similar data on problematic
arrivals. An issue regarding specific late arrivals by Philipine Airlines, Air China and
a Cathay Pacific cargo flight was raised. This would be investigated and brought
back to the next meeting.
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Meeting dates
i) Noted: that the next meeting would be held on 11 October 2017 in the Academy,
after which there would be a tour and a dinner for HACC and PSSC members.
ii) Noted: that meetings in 2018 would take place on 17 January, 18 April, 11 July
and 17 October.
Any other business
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 3.59pm
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