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Our Lorenz Connections 1 *Franz Wenzel (TherSchoedl) LORENZ ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: 1800'S, VOGELDORF, #2, BOHEMIA; NOW/PTACI CZECH Died &Home: D, MARKT SCHOENLIND #74/KRASNA LIPA @KREIS NEUDEK CZECH Reside: MARKT SCHOENLIND MEANS BEAUTIFUL LINDEN TREE; OUR MARKT SCHOENLIND NEAR KARLSBAD; SEVERAL OTHER KRASNA LIPAS IN CZECH Occ: HAUSWIRT/ HOUSEOWNER @MARKT SCHOENLIND Father: *Josef (AnnMarFraRud) LORENZ (1769-) Mother: *Franziska Anna Maria (JosLor) RUDOLPH or RUTTOLPH (1773-) We have neither the birth nor the wedding record for young Franz Wenzl Lorenz, but the birth record for his son Philip, dated 23 June 1831, names Franz Wenzl as the legitimate son of Josef Lorenz (Hauswirt, house owner at Vogeldorf) and Franziska Rudolph from Schieferhütten. Franz Wenzl was Hauswirt, house owner, at Schönlind, and his gebürtig, birthplace, was the house numbered Two in the village of Vogeldorf, “Vater: Lorenz, Wenzl, Hauswirth im Markt Schönlind, gebürtig aus Vogeldorf Nr. 2, ehel. Sohn des + Joseph Lorenz, hauswirths alldort, u. der Franziska geb. Rudolph aus Schieferhütten.” Spouse: *Theresia (FraWenzLor) SCHOEDL Birth: ca 1805?, SCHOENLIND#4 BOHEMIA; NOW/KRASNA LIPA CZECH Died &Home: D, SCHOENLIND#74 BOHEMIA/KRASNA LIPA CZECH Reside: VIA REINHOLD ERLBECK: Schödl Was Living In Nr. 90 In Schönlind. Occ: FATHER:TISCHLERMEISTER/MASTER CARPENTER &HAUSWIRT/HOUSEOWNER Reli: ROMAN KATHOLISCHE/CATHOLIC; PARISH/FARY KRASNA LIPA Father: *Josef (MarElisFriedl) SCHOEDL Mother: *Maria Elisabetha (JosSchoe) FRIEDL (ca1780-) Philip’s birth record also tells us about his mother, Wenzl’s wife, “Mütter: Schödel, Theresia, gebürtig aus Schönlind Nr. 4, ehel. Tochter des Joseph Schödel, Tischlermeisters u. Hauswirths allda, u. der Maria Elisabetha geb. Friedl aus Schönlind”; Theresia Schödel born at Schönlind number four, legitimate daughter of Joseph Schödel, master carpenter and house owner, and of Maria Elisabeth née Friedl. Marr: EST 1825, FARY KRASNA LIPA Children: Franz Xavier (1834-) Philip (WilhelSchuer) (1831-1910) *Josef (RegKathRicht-RegKrautn) (1827-) 1.1 Franz Xavier LORENZ ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: 30 Jul 1834, SCHOENLIND#74 BOHEMIA/KRASNA LIPA CZECH 1.2 Philip (WilhelSchuer) LORENZ ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: 23June 1831; TWO O'CLOCK PM, SCHOENLIND BOHEMIA/ KRASNA LIPA CZECH Died &Home: 9 Oct 1910, 1854, 1856:SCHOENLIND #74; 1858 &AFTER:SCHOENLIND #20 Occ: 1851,1854:DAY LABOURER; 1856 &AFTER:HAUSWIRT/ HOUSE OWNER Page 1

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Our Lorenz Connections1 *Franz Wenzel (TherSchoedl) LORENZ—————————————————————————————————————————————Birth: 1800'S, VOGELDORF, #2, BOHEMIA; NOW/PTACI CZECHDied &Home: D, MARKT SCHOENLIND #74/KRASNA LIPA @KREIS NEUDEK CZECHReside: MARKT SCHOENLIND MEANS BEAUTIFUL LINDEN TREE; OUR MARKT SCHOENLIND NEAR KARLSBAD; SEVERAL OTHER KRASNA LIPAS IN CZECHOcc: HAUSWIRT/ HOUSEOWNER @MARKT SCHOENLINDFather: *Josef (AnnMarFraRud) LORENZ (1769-)Mother: *Franziska Anna Maria (JosLor) RUDOLPH or RUTTOLPH (1773-)

We have neither the birth nor the wedding record for young Franz Wenzl Lorenz, but the birth record for his son Philip, dated 23 June 1831, names Franz Wenzl as the legitimate son of Josef Lorenz (Hauswirt, house owner at Vogeldorf) and Franziska Rudolph from Schieferhütten. Franz Wenzl was Hauswirt, house owner, at Schönlind, and his gebürtig, birthplace, was the house numbered Two in the village of Vogeldorf, “Vater: Lorenz, Wenzl, Hauswirth im Markt Schönlind, gebürtig aus Vogeldorf Nr. 2, ehel. Sohn des + Joseph Lorenz, hauswirths alldort, u. der Franziska geb. Rudolph aus Schieferhütten.”

Spouse: *Theresia (FraWenzLor) SCHOEDLBirth: ca 1805?, SCHOENLIND#4 BOHEMIA; NOW/KRASNA LIPA CZECHDied &Home: D, SCHOENLIND#74 BOHEMIA/KRASNA LIPA CZECHReside: VIA REINHOLD ERLBECK: Schödl Was Living In Nr. 90 In Schönlind. Occ: FATHER:TISCHLERMEISTER/MASTER CARPENTER &HAUSWIRT/HOUSEOWNERReli: ROMAN KATHOLISCHE/CATHOLIC; PARISH/FARY KRASNA LIPAFather: *Josef (MarElisFriedl) SCHOEDLMother: *Maria Elisabetha (JosSchoe) FRIEDL (ca1780-)

Philip’s birth record also tells us about his mother, Wenzl’s wife, “Mütter: Schödel, Theresia, gebürtig aus Schönlind Nr. 4, ehel. Tochter des Joseph Schödel, Tischlermeisters u. Hauswirths allda, u. der Maria Elisabetha geb. Friedl aus Schönlind”; Theresia Schödel born at Schönlind number four, legitimate daughter of Joseph Schödel, master carpenter and house owner, and of Maria Elisabeth née Friedl.

Marr: EST 1825, FARY KRASNA LIPA

Children: Franz Xavier (1834-)Philip (WilhelSchuer) (1831-1910)*Josef (RegKathRicht-RegKrautn) (1827-)

1.1 Franz Xavier LORENZ—————————————————————————————————————————————Birth: 30 Jul 1834, SCHOENLIND#74 BOHEMIA/KRASNA LIPA CZECH

1.2 Philip (WilhelSchuer) LORENZ—————————————————————————————————————————————Birth: 23June 1831; TWO O'CLOCK PM, SCHOENLIND BOHEMIA/ KRASNA LIPA CZECHDied &Home: 9 Oct 1910, 1854, 1856:SCHOENLIND #74; 1858 &AFTER:SCHOENLIND #20Occ: 1851,1854:DAY LABOURER; 1856 &AFTER:HAUSWIRT/ HOUSE OWNEREduc: MARGIN NOTES THAT SON FRANZ BECAME LEGITIMATE BY PARENTS' MARRIAGEReli: GODFATHER PHILIP LORENZ HAUSWIRT @VOGLDORF &HIS WIFE MARIA ANNA NOTED @BIRTH RECORD

Philip Lorenz was born on 23 June 1831 at 2:00 pm in Schönlind, Bohemia, now Krásná Lípa, Czech Republic. Philip is the second documented son of Franz Wenzl Lorenz and Theresia née Schoedl. Philip settled in Schönlind, where he married Wilhelmine Schuerer between 1851 and 1854. Their wedding record has not been found, but they were still single when the first son Franz was born on 13 January 1851; they were married by 25 March 1854, when their second child, Maria, was born. Parish records note that the wedding legitimized their son Franz as well.

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Our Lorenz ConnectionsSpouse: Wilhelmine (PhilLore) SCHUERERBirth: 12 Feb 1831, SCHOENLIND BOHEMIA #43Died &Home: D, SCHOENLIND BOHEMIA; 1851:#40; 1854:#74; 1858:#20Occ: UNCLES FRIEDRICH &JOSEPH SCHUERER; SISTERS MATHILDE 8SEP1834; MARIA EVA 24DEC1835; &JOHANNA @SCHOENLIND#43Reli: GODMOTHER ANNA SCHUERER,WIFE OF FRIEDRICH SCHUERER @SCHOENLIND#49

Parent data: IGNATZ SCHUERER; SCHUMACHER &HAUSWIRT; SHOEMAKER & HOUSE OWNER; OF ANDREAS SCHUERER &MARIA ANNA née ROEDIG of HERMESGRUEN Parent data: ANNA THERESIA ERHARD; OF JOSEPH ERHARD,HAUSWIRT &MARIA ANNA née PLEYER of KOHLING#27 Wilhelmine was the daughter of Ignatz Schuerer, master shoemaker in Schönlind at number forty, and Anna Theresia née Erhart, also from Schönlind. Ignatz was the son of Andreas Schuerer and Maria Anna née Roedig, while Anna Theresia was the daughter of Joseph Erhard and Maria Anna née Pleyer.

Marr: BETWEEN 1851 & MARCH 1854, BOHEMIA

Children: Maria (JosSchu) (1865-1942)Anton (1856-)Josef (1858-1858)Adolf (1862-1862)Theresia (1863-1863)Barbara (1868-1869)Julia (1871-)Franz 'Frank' (TherHagen) (1851-1927)Robert (LouBenn) (1859-1935)

1.2.1 Maria (JosSchu) LORENZ—————————————————————————————————————————————Birth: 19 May 1865, SCHOENLIND #20; KRASNA LIPADied &Home: 2 Apr 1942, 1884:SCHOENLIND #20Burial: NOTE IN MARGIN OF BIRTH RECORD BOOK 7 PAGE 72; DIED AGE 76; EARLIER BABY SISTER MARIA 25MAR1854+ @PAGE 2 1854Educ: MARIA'S GODMOTHER JOHANNA LORENZ,WIFE OF VENANZ LORENZ @SCHOENLIND#47Reli: GODMOTHER MARIE ROEDIG,LEDIG/ SINGLE &HAUSWIRT'S TOCHTER @VOGLDORF#1

Spouse: Joseph (MariLore) SCHUERERBirth: ca 1860?, SCHOENLIND BOHEMIA AREA?Educ: WEDDING NOTED IN MARGIN OF WIFE MARIA’S BIRTH RECORDMarr: 27 May 1890, SCHOENLIND BOHEMIA

Children: Barbara (1884-)

1.2.2 Anton LORENZ—————————————————————————————————————————————Birth: 17 Feb 1856, SCHOENLIND #74 BOHEMIA; KRASNA LIPA, CZECH REPUBLICDied &Home: D, SCHOENLIND BOHEMIAEduc: BIRTH RECORD BOOK 7 PAGE 9; DAD PHILIP HAUSWIRT/ HOUSE OWNERReli: GODFATHER ANTON GOETZ LANDLORD @TRINKSEIFEN #50 &WIFE KRESZENZIA GOETZ

1.2.3 Josef LORENZ—————————————————————————————————————————————Birth: 3 Jan 1858, SCHOENLIND #20 BOHEMIA; KRASNA LIPA, CZECH REPUBLICDied &Home: 23 Jan 1858, SCHOENLIND BOHEMIABurial: NOTE IN MARGIN OF BIRTH RECORDReside: NOTE FAMILY'S HOUSE NUMBER CHANGED WITH THIS BIRTH RECORD; DID FAMILY

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Our Lorenz ConnectionsMOVE??; OR HOUSES RENUMBERED @SCHOENLIND??Educ: BIRTH RECORD BOOK 7 PAGE 21Reli: GODFATHER NIKOLAUS JANETSCHEK,SINGLE &HIS SISTER SOFIE JANETSCHEK; THEIR DAD ANTON JANETSCHEK, LOCALADJUNCTEN/ ASSISTANT @UNTERHOCHGARTH#66

1.2.4 Adolf LORENZ—————————————————————————————————————————————Birth: 16 Jan 1862, SCHOENLIND #20 @BOHEMIA; KRASNA LIPA, CZECH REPUBLICDied &Home: 12 May 1862, SCHOENLIND BOHEMIABurial: NOTE IN MARGIN OF BIRTH RECORD @BOOK 7 PAGE 50; DIED AGE 5 MONTHSReli: GODFATHER ALOIS SCHUERER,HAUSWIRT @SCHOENLIND#49 &HEAD OF DISTRICT COUNCIL

1.2.5 Theresia LORENZ—————————————————————————————————————————————Birth: 4 May 1863, SCHOENLIND #20 @BOHEMIA; KRASNA LIPA CZECHDied &Home: 18 Jun 1863, SCHOENLIND BOHEMIABurial: NOTE IN MARGIN OF BIRTH RECORD @BOOK 7 PAGE 58; DIED AGE 1 MONTHReli: GODFATHER JOSEF SCHOEDL,TEACHER; GODMOTHER THERESIA ROEDIG,SINGLE DAUGHTER OF +ANTON ROEDIG,HAUSWIRT @VOGLDORF#1

1.2.6 Barbara LORENZ—————————————————————————————————————————————Birth: 29 Nov 1868, SCHOENLIND BOHEMIA #20; KRASNA LIPA CZECHDied &Home: 14 Jun 1869, SCHOENLIND BOHEMIABurial: NOTE IN MARGIN OF BIRTH RECORD @BOOK 7 PAGE 92; DIED AGE 6 MONTHSEduc: BRO'S BIRTH RECORDS: FRANZ @BOOK 1 PAGE 157; ROBERT @BOOK 7 PAGE 33Reli: GODMOTHER MARIA LILL, HAUSWIRT @SCHOENLIND #75 &HER HUSBAND JOSEPH LILL

1.2.7 Julia LORENZ—————————————————————————————————————————————Birth: 15 Jan 1871, SCHOENLIND #20 BOHEMIA; KRASNA LIPA, CZECH REPUBLICDied &Home: D, SCHOENLIND BOHEMIAEduc: BIRTH RECORD @BOOK 7 PAGE 105Reli: GODMOTHER MARIA LORENZ 'DTR OF HAUSWIRT @19' &FRANZ ROSSMEISL 'BAKER @SCHOENLIND #76'

1.2.8 Franz 'Frank' (TherHagen) SCHUERER LORENZ—————————————————————————————————————————————Birth: 13 Jan 1851, SCHOENLIND #40 BOHEMIADied &Home: 26 Jun 1927, 1880:GUADALUPE TEXAS @DIST 72; 1900, 1910, 1920:PRECINCT 7; 1920:KINGSBURY; 1927:ROUTE 2Burial: KINGSBURY CEMImmi: 24 Jun 1867, ARRIVED ON SHIP KARLSHAVEN @BALTIMORE; “Fr. Lorenz, Schlosser”; HEADED TO CINCINNATI; 15 JUL 1887:CITIZEN PAPERSOcc: 1867:LOCKSMITH 16; 1880:MAYBE 'LORENZE' FARMING AGE 30 OF AUSTRIA; W/WIDOW F CARTWRIGHT 49 & FAMILY; 1900:OWN FARM W/MORTGAGE; 1910,1920,1927:GENERAL FARMEREduc: FRANZ' BIRTH RECORD NAMES MOM WILHELMINA SCHUERER FIRST, DAD PHILIP 2nd; SURNAME SCHEURER @BIRTHReli: GODFATHER FRANZ OF ANTON ROEDIG, LANDWIRT @ VOGLDORF #13; MOM'S SISTER MARIA SCHUERER WAS GODMOTHER; BAPTISMAL MARGIN NOTES THAT FRANZ BECAME LEGITIMATE BY PARENTS' MARRIAGECause: DIED AGE 76; INFLUENZA &MYOCARDITIS; '26 YEARS @KINGSBURY'; MARKER: ‘OUR BELOVED FATHER’

THE STATE OF TEXAS. DISTRICT COURT, COUNTY OF GUADALUPE.

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Our Lorenz Connections Personally appeared, FRANZ LORENZ who declares upon oath that he is the natural born subject of FRANCIS JOSEPH, EMPEROR OF AUSTRIA; that he was born in Schonlin; that he is 36 years of age; that he emigrated to the United States of America and arrived at the port of Baltimore in the State of Maryland on or about the 23rd day of June 1867; that it is his bona fide intention to become a Citizen of the United States and renounce forever all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign Prince, Potentate, State or Sovereignty whatsoever, and particular any and all allegiance to FRANCIS JOSEPH, EMPEROR OF AUSTRIA; and that he will bear true allegiance to the United States and support the Constitution of the same. FRANZ LORENZ. Sworn to and subscribed before me this 15th day of July 1887; C. L. Arbuckle, Clerk and the seal of the District Court of Guadalupe County, in said State.

Miscellany: KINGSBURY CEMETERY MARKER:FRANK LORENZJAN. 10, 1850JUNE 14, 1927OUR BELOVED FATHER

Spouse: Theresa (FrankLore) HAGENBirth: 13 Mar 1863, 'BOHEMIA & AUSTRIA'Died &Home: 1 Apr 1945, 1900, 1910, 1920:PRECINCT 7; 1920, 1945:KINGSBURY; 1927:ROUTE 2Burial: KINGSBURY CEM; DEATH WITNESS 'HELMUTH LORENZ'Reside: 1930:WIDOW MOM 'MRS FRANK LORENZ SENIOR'; OWNED HOME; BORN AUSTRIA; 1888 TO USA; ALIENOcc: 1900:AGE 37; HAD 7 KIDS &6 LIVING; 1910:AGE 46; 9 KIDS &7 LIVING; CAME USA 1887; 1930:WIDOW 68; 1945:WIDOW &HOMEMAKEREduc: 1900,1910,1945:BORN AUSTRIA; MARRIED AGE 22; 1930:BORN BOHEMIA; GERMAN BOHEMIAN PARENTSCause: DIED AGE 82; MYOCARDITIS &NEPHRITIS

Parent data: ANDREW HAGEN Parent data: ANNIE LORENZ; OF UNKNOWN COUNTRY OF ORIGIN; PERHAPS RELATED TO OUR LORENZES???MARRIAGE LICENSE - THE STATE OF TEXAS - COUNTY OF GUADALUPE. To any Regularly Licensed or Ordained Minister of the Gospel, Jewish Rabbi, Judge of the District or County Court, or any Justice of the Peace in the State of Texas - Greetings: You are hereby authorized to Solemnize the Rites of Matrimony Between Mr. FRANK LORENZ and THERESA HAGN [sic] and make due return to the Clerk of the County Court of said County within Sixty days thereafter, certifying your action under this License. Witness my Official Signature and Seal of office, at office in Seguin, Texas, the 21st day of February 1887(8). A. E. WILSON, Clerk of the County Court, Guadalupe County, Texas. I, J. W. WEST Certify that on the 12th day of March 1887(8), I united in marriage Mr. FRANK LORENZ and Miss THERESA HAGN the parties above named. Witness my hand this 12th day of March 1887(8). J. W. WEST. Returned and filed for record 14 March 1887(8), and recorded the 14th day of March 1887(8). Deputy A. E. WILSON, County Clerk.

Miscellany: KINGSBURY CEMETERY MARKER:THERESIA LORENZMAR. 13, 1863APR. 9, 1945OUR BELOVED MOTHER

Marr: 12 Mar 1888, SEGUIN TEXAS; GUADALUPE COUNTY

Children: Robert William (PaulSchoel) (1888-1920)Sidney (RoseIdaStaut) (1890-1945)Frank (ElsieDerh) (1892-1960)Louis (MeadyMaeGlas) (1894-1950)Emma (BenKarr-MacRoyal) (1896-1987)Helmuth (1899-1946)

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Our Lorenz ConnectionsClara 'Clarie' (WaltHelmke) (1902-1975)

1.2.9 Robert (LouBenn) LORENZ—————————————————————————————————————————————Birth: 28 May 1859, SCHOENLIND #20 BOHEMIADied &Home: 1 May 1935, TEXAS @GUADALUPE COUNTY; 1900, 1910, 1920, 1930:PRECINCT 7; 1920:KINGSTON AVEBurial: KINGSBURY CEMETERY W/WIFE; DIED AGE 76Citizen: 1888:FILED CITIZEN PAPERS 'AGE 29'; 1901:CITIZEN NATURALIZEDImmi: 16 Apr 1886, ELLIS ISLAND ON SHIP ELBE; AGE 27 OF BOHEMIA; FINAL DESTINATION ‘TEXAS’Occ: 1900,1910,1930:GENERAL FARMER & OWNER W/MORTGAGE; 1920:FARMER OWN ACCOUNTReli: GODPARENTS FRANZ &THERESIA ROSSMEISSL; SIBS OF JOSEF,HAUSWIRT & SCHENKER @ SCHOENLIND#76

THE STATE OF TEXAS. DISTRICT COURT, COUNTY OF GUADALUPE. ‘Personally appeared, ROBERT LORENZ who declares upon oath that he is the natural born subject of FRANZ JOSEPH, EMPEROR OF AUSTRIA; that he was born in Scheudlind [sic]; that he is 29 years of age; that he emigrated to the United States of America and arrived at the port of New York in the State of New York on or about the 20th day of April 1886; that it is his bona fide intention to become a Citizen of the United States and renounce forever all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign Prince, Potentate, State or Sovereignty whatsoever, and particular any and all allegiance to FRANZ JOSEPH, EMPEROR OF AUSTRIA; and that he will bear true allegiance to the United States and support the Constitution of the same. ROBERT LORENZ’

Miscellany: KINGSBURY CEMETERY MARKER: LORENZMOTHER FATHERLIZZIE ROBERTMAY 18, 1870 MAY 28, 1859MAY 25, 1957 MAY 1, 1935

Spouse: Louisa 'Lizzie' (RobLoren) BENNERBirth: 18 May 1870, TEXAS STATEDied &Home: 25 May 1957, TEXAS @GUADALUPE COUNTY; 1900, 1910, 1920, 1930:PRECINCT 7; 1920:KINGSTON AVE; 1957:#15 KINGSBURY ROUTE #2Burial: KINGSBURY CEMETERYOcc: 1900,1910,1920,1930:WIFE AGES 27, 39, 50 & 61; 1910:HOME FARM LABORERCause: DIED AGE 87; PNEUMONIA, HEART & DIABETES

Parent data: AUGUST BENNER; BORN GERMANY; 1860:MAYBE AT BEXAR COUNTY TEXAS; 1870:AT KENDALL COUNTY? Parent data: HELENE ADLE orCAROLINA ERTEL; BORN GERMANY; MRD @ KENDALL COUNTY TEXAS

Miscellany: MARRIAGE LICENSE - THE STATE OF TEXAS - COUNTY OF GUADALUPE. To any Regularly Licensed or Ordained Minister of the Gospel, Jewish Rabbi, Judge of the District or County Court, or any Justice of the Peace in the State of Texas - Greetings: You are hereby authorized to Solemnize the Rites of Matrimony Between Mr. ROBERT LORENZ and LOUISA BENNER and make due return to the Clerk of the County Court of said County within Sixty days thereafter, certifying your action under this License. Witness my Official Signature and Seal of office, at office in Seguin, Texas, the 28th day of October 1890. A. E. WILSON, Clerk of the County Court, Guadalupe County, Texas. I, W. J. AVRETTE Certify that on the 2nd day of November 1890, I united in marriage Mr. ROBERT LORENZ and Miss LOUISA BENNER parties above named. Witness my hand this 2nd day of Nov 1890. W. J. AVRETTE, J. P. Guadalupe County.

Marr: 2 Nov 1890, SEGUIN TEX; GUADALUPE COUNTY

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Our Lorenz ConnectionsChildren: Oscar Julia (OlgaMaryWagen) (1892-1964)

Caroline 'Carrie' (JohnStef-FloyCald) (1895-1973)Walter (Arva) (1896-1975)Anton (JosePaulGotth) (1899-1937)Ludwig (1902-)Anna 'Annie' (AlbSeit) (1907-1995)

1.3a *Josef (RegKathRicht-RegKrautn) LORENZ*—————————————————————————————————————————————Birth: 15 Apr 1827, MARKT SCHOENLIND, #74; BOHEMIA, AUSTRIAN EMPIRE; NOW CZECH REPUBLICDied &Home: MARKT SCHOENLIND BOHEMIAOcc: SCHLOSSER/ MACHINISTEduc: FAMILY REMEMBERS THAT SON FRANK NAMED HIS SONS FOR HIS BROTHERS, IN ORDERReli: ROMAN KATHOLISCHE/ CATHOLIC; FARY/ PARISH KRASNA LIPA

SURNAME ETYMOLOGY FOR LORENZ: PATRONYMIC ORIGN, FOR SON OF LAWRENCE

Miscellany: Thanks to our cousin Franziska Lorenz LaFrance, we know that her great-grandfather (also our ancestor) Josef Lorenz was born on 15 April 1827 at Schönlind (now Krásná Lípa; remembered as Markt Schönlind by the family), then located in the Bohemian part of Austria-Hungary. Franziska also confirmed that Josef’s parents were named Franz Wenzel Lorenz and Theresia Schoedl, but she had not previously known about the family of Josef’s younger brother Philip.

Spouse: *Regina Katharina (JosLor) RICHTERBirth: 7 Sep 1829, SCHIEFERHÜTTEN #17; BOHEMIA/ BRIDLOVA CZECH REPUBLICDied &Home: aft 1867, MARKT SCHOENLIND, BOHEMIA/ KRASNA LIPA CZECHBurial: PARISH FRUHBUS/ PREBUZ CZECHFather: *Adalbert (AnnRud) RICHTERMother: *Anna (AdalRich) RUDOLPH (1800-)

Regina’s birth record in the parish register of Frühbuß, dated 7 September 1829: “Ort: Schieferhütten Nr. 17; Namen: Regina Katharina; Vater: Richter, Adalbert, Flaschenmeister in Mühlhäussen, geb. von Schindelwald Nr. 52, ehel. Sohn des Franz Richter, Herrschaftl. Zinners in Schindelwald, u. der Katharina geb. Gröschl; Mutter: Rudolph, Anna geb. von Mühlhäussen Nr. 17, ehel. Tochter des + Wenzl Rudolph, Spitzenhändlers in Mühlhäussen, und der Susanna geb. Sattler”; Regina was born at Schieferhütten (now Bridlova), in house number 17; the record includes the names of her parents and her four grandparents.

Marr: 3 Nov 1857, SCHOENLIND BOHEMIA/KRASNA LIPA

Children: Sophia 'Sophie' (JosSchönecker) (ca1860->1935)Anna (mrd?) (ca1865-)Wenzel (MaryHoffm) (1859-1927)Anton (ElizLang-AnnaAupp) (1863->1930)Karl (EmKeilw) (1867-1908)*Franz Josef 'Frank' (RosElisHeidl) (1864-1923)

Other spouses: Regina (JoseLore) KRÄUTNER

1.3a.1 Sophia 'Sophie' (JosSchönecker) LORENZ—————————————————————————————————————————————Birth: 1860s?, SCHOENLIND, BOHEMIA; NOW CZECH REPUBLICDied &Home: aft 1935, SCHOENLIND; HOUSE ON HILL ABOVE TOWNOcc: PROSPEROUS LANDOWNER &WIDOW; HAD BIG FARMHOUSE; FARMERS LIVED IN HOUSES IN TOWN FOR SECURITY; WALKED TO FIELDS DAILY; RAISED HER ORPHAN NEPHEW JOSEFEduc: SENT POSTCARD TO WOHLG HERRN FRANK LORENZ Ca1910; 'MERRY CHRISTMAS; WHY DON'T YOU WRITE?'

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Sophie was still living in Schönlind during the 1930s, and is fondly remembered by her great-niece Franziska Lorenz LaFrance. ‘Aunt Sophie’ had red hair so beautiful that even her American relatives spoke of it (it also helps to explain the red mustache of her nephew, our Frank Lorenz, and the red hair of her great-nephew Joseph in Hamilton, Ohio). Sophie lived in a large farmhouse on a hill that overlooked the town of Schönlind. The farmlands surrounded Schönlind, and all the farmers lived in town for security; they walked every morning to work in their fields. Meter describes such houses in Border People, The Böhmisch, “Old world houses were huge by American standards, running as much as a hundred feet in length, and. . . three stories high. Set upon a foundation of field stone, they were constructed with stone walls covered with a rough plaster. Beams and rafters would be cut from local trees. These homes had once been made of wood but this was prohibited due to the risk of fire. “Traditionally, the farm animals had been kept on the first floor. This made it easier to listen for sounds of trouble in the herd, and their heat also helped take the chill off the residents above. But in later years, people began to build separate stalls and mangers. Nearly every family had a few cattle, a milk cow or two, a few hogs, chickens or horses.

Medical: WELL-REMEMBERED FOR BEAUTIFUL RED HAIR BY GREAT NIECE FRANCES LORENZ LAFRANCE; FRANCES BROUGHT HER DAILY FRESH BREAD-ROLLS FOR A ‘NICKEL’ TIP

Miscellany: Child: ANNA SCHÖNECKER; BORN BEFORE 1910INFO VIA REINHOLD ERLBECK: I have no informations about the Schöneckers. But in 1945 lived a Anna Schönecker in hause Nr.59, born 29.05.1914, with Emil, born 24.02.1936, Karl, born 16.09.1869,  Magdalena, born 22.07.1875 and Marie, born 27.10.1915. In house nr. 30 lived a Leopold Sch., born 19.09.1858.

Spouse: Joseph (SophLorenz) SCHÖNECKERBirth: ca 1860?, BOHEMIA; RECORD NOT FOUNDOcc: PROSPEROUS FARMER

We have a postcard mailed from Schönlind, showing a Nativity Manger Scene printed in colors with gilt edging and a border of evergreen boughs with pine cones; red roses bloom through the snow outside the wooden barn, and an angel places more roses inside the manger. “Gesegnete Weihnachten” (Blessed Christmas), to Wohlg. Herrn Franz Lorenz; 1338 Miami Chapel Road; Dayton Ohio; N. Amerika. City directories tell us that Frank and Rosa Lorenz lived here from 1909 - 1914; there is no date on the postcard because the postal stamp was removed, but we can see that the postmark said SCHöNLIND. “Lieber Onkel ü Tante, wir wünschen eüch recht fröhlich Weihnachtin und ein glücklich Neü Jahr. Warum schreibt Ihr nicht einmal? . . . S. Schönecker” [Translated by Frances Lorenz LaFrance; ‘Dear Uncle and Aunt, We wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Why don’t you write to us? Greetings from your niece Anna, sister Sofia, and Brother in Law Josef Schönecker.’] This tells us the married name Schönecker of our Frank’s sister Sophie, her husband Joseph and daughter Anna.

Miscellany: “[Bohemian] fields were roughly two to thirty hectares (five to seventy acres) in size. Originally, these were long narrow fields that ran spokelike from the village, because turning an ox-drawn plow was difficult. But these shapes became awkward as farming techniques improved in the 19th century, and aspiring farmers pieced together several plots which they could work more efficiently. Many families also had their own wooded acreage for harvest as building materials or stove wood. In times of scarcity these might be sacrificed, but then the village faced hard times waiting for its fuel to grow again. Many villages also had communally-held pasture or forest grounds.”

Marr: ca 1880, BOHEMIA; RECORD NOT FOUND

Children: Emilie (KarlRölz) (1881-)

1.3a.2 Anna (mrd?) LORENZ—————————————————————————————————————————————Birth: ca 1865?, MARKT SCHOENLIND AREA

Regina Richter settled in Schönlind with her husband Josef Lorenz and that is where their seven children were born. There were two daughters, named Anna Lorenz and Sophie Lorenz. Both daughters stayed in Bohemia, and little is know about them. It is probable that both married, but we do not know the name of Anna’s husband.

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Our Lorenz Connections1.3a.3 Wenzel (MaryHoffm) LORENZ—————————————————————————————————————————————Birth: Apr 1859, SCHOENLIND BOHEMIA/ KRASNA LIPA CZECHDied &Home: 21 May 1927, OHIO; MIDDLETOWN OHIO; CINCINNATI; 1900, 1910, 1920, 1930:#2742 ENSLINBurial: VINE ST HILL CEMETERY W/WIFE; GERMAN EVANGELICAL [PROTESTANT], Sec21#1605; CLIFTON CINCIImmi: 1884:CAME TO USA; 1889:CITIZEN; SPONSORED BROTHERS’ IMMIGRATIONOcc: 1900,1920:IRON WORKER &SAFEMAKER; HALL SAFE WORKS; 1910:PLATE STRAIGHTENER; MACHINIST @ VICTOR SAFE COEduc: VISITED BROTHER KARL’S FAMILY IN CZECHOSLOVAKIA DURING 1920s; GT-NEPHEW WENZL (Karin) NAMED IN HIS HONOR BY NEPHEW JOSEFCause: STOMACH CARCINOMA PYLORUS; CONFIRMED BY X-RAYS; DIED AGE 68

The 1884 city directory showed ‘Wenzel Lorenz’ working as a porter and boarding at the Teutonia Hotel. There is no street address listed, but the hotel’s name suggests it was located in the German-speaking ‘Over the Rhine’ area, where Wenzel would have had an easy transition to his new homeland. Pauline Bertsch Minke and Eva Hafner Lorenz (the wife of Wenzel’s nephew Anthony) remembered visiting ‘Uncle Wenzel’ at his home in Cincinnati. They described a house on a hill, with big front steps near a park. A visit in 1990 found a modest, two story house with white siding and a front porch reached by eight wide steps; a large brick chimney is in the back of the house. Nearby houses showed the same narrow townhouse construction. The north edge of Fairview Park is one block away, at the southern end of Enslin Avenue.HISTORY OF CINCINNATI STATES: “While German Americans settled in every part of Cincinnati, most of their cultural institutions and businesses were concentrated in Over-the-Rhine. The largest cluster of saloons, beer gardens, and concert halls - integral parts of German American culture - was along Vine Street and at its peak included more than fifty saloons and five theaters between the canal and McMicken Streets. By the 1870s, the Vine Street entertainment district was a major tourist attraction with a national, as well as a local, reputation. “Workshops, homes and businesses stood side by side. Small and medium-sized plants producing a variety of goods from furniture to fire engines were distributed throughout Over-the-Rhine. The largest factories were concentrated on major transportation routes. [By] the 1850s, ironworks, a stove plant and lumber and stone yards were near the Miami and Erie Canal. As more industries moved into the area, many, including a large number of wagon and carriage factories, established themselves on McMicken Street, the road to Hamilton [a town north of Cincinnati]. Breweries were set up along the canal and McMicken. “Almost every block included housing, some industry, and shops. By the latter decades of the nineteenth century, this mix began to diminish the area’s appeal as a residential district. The suburban ideal - single family homes with yards, isolated from industrial activity - was gaining popularity among middle-income families who began moving to new subdivisions in the surrounding hills. Over-the-Rhine became increasingly a working-class district.”

Miscellany: CEMETERY MARKER:Wenzel † Maria LORENZ1859-1927 1863-1936

Spouse: Maria ‘Mary’ (WenzLore) HOFFMANBirth: Mar 1863, GERMANYDied &Home: 6 Jun 1936, CINCINNATI OHIO; 1900,1910,1920,1930:#2742 ENSLIN STREETBurial: VINE STREET HILL CEMETERY W/WENZELImmi: 1882:CAME USAOcc: 1930:WIDOW OWNED HOME $4,000; BOARDER HUGO GRIFFIG 60 WIDOWER & PATTERN WORKS LABORER PAID RENT $13 MONTHLY

Child: DAUGHTER MARY LORENZ,OCT1880-; BORN GERMANY; 1900 @ HOME W/WENZEL & MOM; It is possible that this ‘Mary Hoffman’ married as ‘Maria Hoffman’ on 21 July 1906 at Hamilton, Ohio; a record from the online International Genealogical Index states Maria ‘daughter of Adam Hoffman and Maria née Masson’ married one ‘Jos. Basca’. However, a search of 1910, 1920 and 1930 census indexes revealed no record for this couple that might confirm this was our Mary Hoffman.

Marr: 6 Aug 1885, HAMILTON COUNTY, OHIO; PROBATE COURT RECORDS

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Our Lorenz Connections1.3a.4a Anton (ElizLang-AnnaAupp) LORENZ*—————————————————————————————————————————————Birth: 1863, SCHOENLIND BOHEMIADied &Home: aft 1930, 1889:CINCINNATI #18 HAMER; 1890:HAMILTON OHIO; 1920:'GERMANY'; 1923:HAMILTON; 1930:HOBOKEN NEW JERSEY #206 PARK AVENUECitizen: 1930 CENSUS: STATED CAME USA 1888 & WAS NATURALIZED CITIZEN; BORN BOHEMIA OF BOHEMIAN PARENTSReside: 1900:#206 PARK AVE; 1906:COMMERCE &#1 EDGEWOOD; 1910,1912,1916,1920:#1710 So 12TH; 1910:OWNED HOME WITH MORTGAGE; 1923:HARMOND AVEImmi: 10 Mar 1888, ARRIVED BALTIMORE 10Mar1888 FROM BREMEN; DECLARATION OF INTENT 27MAR1891 AGE 28; 28OCT1913 ARRIVED ELLIS ISLE FROM BREMEN; WITH WIFE ANNA; NO KIDSOcc: BOLT CUTTER; LOCKSMITH; MACHINIST; 1910:VICE HAND @SAFE WORKS; 1930:AGE 68 NO OCCUPATION; RENTED HOME $27Educ: HOMESICK; 1920:NOT @USA CENSUS; REGRETTED RETURN TO GERMANY,ASKED DAYTON FAMILY FOR $$

Research by Kathryn Lorenz tells us that Anton and Anna went to Germany in 1913; perhaps they were able to visit relatives still living in Bohemia. The ship manifest record for 28 October 1913 at Ellis Island shows that they returned home to America on the SS Kronprinzessin Cecilie (named for Crown Princess Cecile) from Bremen, Germany. This ship was owned by the same Norddeutscher Lloyd Line on which Anton had emigrated twenty-five years previously; the Cecilie was launched in 1906 and accommodated 617 first class passengers, 326 in second class and 798 in third class. Barely six months after Anton’s voyage, Cecilie made her last voyage from Bremen before she was stranded in Boston (and confiscated by the American government) due to the imminent outbreak of World War I. Anton was lucky that he returned to America when he did, or he might have been detained in Germany. Their sons were not traveling with them. Anton Lorenz was a married male aged 51 in 1913; he had been naturalized on 11 November 1893 at Probate Court in Cincinnati Ohio. Anna was age 45.

Miscellany: In 1919, their cousin Rose Lorenz Bertsch sent a postcard from Dayton to her mother Rosa on the Polk Grove farm to say that she had been, “to Hamilton & they [Lorenz cousins] are all well. Love from, Rose & Baby [Pauline]”.DAYTON REMEMBERS: ANTON REGRETTED MOVE TO GERMANY; ASKED FOR $$ TO RETURN USA; BRO FRANK & ROSA COULD NOT HELP; HAMILTON COUSINS BROKE ALL CONTACT

Spouse: Elizabeth (AntLorenz) LANGBirth: 1865?, 'GERMANY'Died &Home: ca 1907, 1889:#18 HAMER, CINCINNATI; 1890:HAMILTON OHIO; 1900:#206 PARK AVE; 1906:COMMERCE &#1 EDGEWOODOcc: 1908:NOT LISTED @HAMILTON CITY DIRECTORY; 1880:MAYBE SERVANT AGE 18 OF AUSTRIA; W/JOHN SCHNEIDER BAKER &MILLER @CINCINNATIEduc: MAIDEN NAME FROM SON BEN'S DEATH CERT; 'ELIZTH LANG BORN GERMANY'; PERHAPS MARRIED @BOHEMIA &EMIGRATED WITH ANTON OR CAME SEPARATELY;

The 1906 Hamilton City Directory lists Anton Lorenz, machinist, living with his wife Elizabeth at the corner of Commerce and Edgewood Streets, near Main Street in the northwestern part of Hamilton. Their son Joseph Lorenz, machinist, is also listed at the same address. This is a large wooden two-story house very similar to that at 206 Park Avenue, but it has fewer windows and no shutters. A portion of the ground floor is now occupied by a store and tavern; the entrance door has been cut into the corner of the building. The 1908 city directory lists Anton Lorenz, machinist; Joseph Lorenz, machinist; and Ben Lorenz, machine hand. They are still living at Commerce and Edgewood Streets, but Elizabeth is no longer listed. Presumably she had passed away, for by 1910 Anton has a new wife named Anna.

Marr: ca 1888, AUSTRIA? or OHIO?

Children: Joseph or Josef (1889-)Bernard 'Ben' (1891-1916)Julius (1893-)Frank (1896-)

Other spouses: Anna Mary 'Annie' (AntonLore) AUPPERLE

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1.3a.4b Anton (ElizLang-AnnaAupp) LORENZ* (See above)—————————————————————————————————————————————

Spouse: Anna Mary 'Annie' (AntonLore) AUPPERLEBirth: 1 Feb 1866, CINCINNATI OHIO; ‘BORN OHIO OF GERMAN PARENTS’Died &Home: aft 1930, 1880:CINCINNATI #311 FINDLAY ST; 1909:HAMILTON OHIO; 1912>1920:#1710 So 12th ST; 1923:HARMOND AVE; 1930:HOBOKEN NEW JERSEY #206 PARK AVEBurial: STEP-SON BERNARD BURIED @ AUPPERLE LOT, ST MARY'S CEM / SOURCE OF FAMILY INFOOcc: 1880:SCHOLAR &COUSINinLAW W/JNO NICHOLSON AGE 44 CARPENTER OF IRELAND; SARAH 35 OF OHIO; 1930:COOK DOMESTIC AGE 64; FIRST MARRIED AGE 41Educ: 1880:SIS EMMA AGE 15; 1910:WIFE AGE 44; HER FIRST MARRIAGE, TWO YEARS, NO KIDS; 1930:W/HUSBAND ANTON & SON JOSEPH

On 18 December 1914, Anna sent Christmas Greetings to our Frank and Rosa, Lieber Schwager und Schwagerin, translated by Cousin Frances LaFrance, “Hamilton; Dec 18/ 14; Dear Brother-in-law and Sister-in-law! You probably are thinking that I have forgotten about you, since I had not answered your letter for such a long time. We have tried repeatedly to visit you but Anton did not feel too well and it was hard to fit it in with his work. Our Julius works. . .” Presumably, this postcard was tucked inside an envelope with another that continued the message, as the writing covers the entire back of the postcard and there is neither address nor stamp. The picture shows a large poinsettia blossom resting on a decorated parchment scroll with a dangling red seal; the words say, ‘Best wishes for a Happy Christmas’. We also have an undated postcard showing purple pansies and a pastoral scene, “To Greet You”, with the message written in English, “Luella; I wish you a Happy Easter. Your Aunt Anna.”The following December, Anna wrote again to Frank and Rosa, “Here is another New Year wish, And tho’ tis but a card,‘Tis worth twice any other, For I wish it twice as hard.” The picture shows a snowy landscape with white birch trees and a distant farmhouse. Postmarked 29 December 1916 at Hamilton, Ohio, Anna wrote, “Dear brother-in-law and Sister-in-law, We received your postcard. We hope you are all well and in good health and spirits and wish you all a happy new year. Anna”

Miscellany: Parent data: JOHN G AUPPERLE,1835-; CARRIAGE DRIVER ofWUERTTEMBERG; 1880 @CINCI #442 EAST FRONT Parent data: CAROLINA,1838-22MAR1904; OF BADEN; 1880:KEEPING HOUSE; BURIED @ST MARY'S CEM Sec13 Lot291Aupperle is a fairly unique surname in Ohio; the 1880 census suggests Anna’s father was John G. Aupperle, born in 1835 at Württemberg Germany; he worked as a carriage driver and in 1880 lived at 442 East Front, Cincinnati, with his wife Carolina, age 42 of Baden. A genealogical index at www.familysearch.org tells us that Gottfried Aupperle and Carolina Fischer were married on 6 August 1856 at Hamilton, Ohio. Carolina is buried with Ben in the Aupperle lot at St. Mary Cemetery; she died on 22 March 1904. In 1880, Anna’s sister Emma, age fifteen, lived at home with their parents, but Anna, scholar age fourteen, was living with her cousin-in-law John Nicholson (carpenter age 44 of Ireland) and his wife Sarah (age 35, born in Ohio) at 311 Findlay Street in Cincinnati.

Marr: ca 1908, HAMILTON OHIO

Other spouses: Elizabeth (AntLorenz) LANG

1.3a.5 Karl (EmKeilw) LORENZ—————————————————————————————————————————————Birth: 11 Dec 1867, MARKT SCHOENLIND, BOHEMIA; NOW CZECH REPUBLICDied &Home: 1908 or 1910, MARKT SCHOENLINDBurial: SCHOENLIND,ST JOSEPH'S CHURCHYARD; W/WIFEOcc: FOREST WARDEN FOR PRIVATE ESTATE; 1902: TISCHLER/ CARPENTEREduc: SONS WERE ORPHANED; RAISED BY RELATIVES & GREW APARTCause: SHOT BY POACHER WHILE ON PATROL; AGE 40s

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Our Lorenz ConnectionsSCHOENLIND VILLAGE IN 1935, DESCRIBED BY GRANDDAUGHTER FRANCES LORENZ LAFRANCE: HILL,STEEP STREET TO CHURCH, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, JEWISH DOCTOR; GROCER, BAKER, BUTCHER, BLACKSMITH; FARMHOUSES IN TOWN, WORKERS WALKED TO FIELDS DAILY

Miscellany: 1902 INFO FROM SON ANTON’S BIRTH RECORD:Karl Lorenz, Tischler gehilfe und Tunnarfeur, carpenter helper in Schönlind #74 geboren deshalbst, born in the same place #28. Karl was ehelige Sohn des, legitimate son of Josef Lorenz, Schlossers, machinist, und Hauslars, house owner in Schönlind #28 und der Regina geboren, nèe Richter aus, of Schönlind #28.

Spouse: Emilie (KarLore) KEILWERTHBirth: 28 Dec 1876, SCHOENLIND BOHEMIA. NOW CZECH REPUBLICDied &Home: 1904 OR1905, SCHOENLIND, KREIS NEUDEKReli: ROMAN KATHOLISCHE/CATHOLICCause: DIED AGE 28; HEATSTROKE Or MILK/CHILDBED FEVER

Parent data: WENZL KEILWERTH; BORN 28OCT1828, OF JOSEF KEILWERTH &SUSANNA RICHTER Parent data: KATHARINA HAMMERL, BORN 29JAN1841,OF GEORG HAMMERL &MARIA ANNA KUNZL; IN LINDENHAMMER,BLEISTADT/OLOVIWENZL KEILWERTH & KATH HAMMERL /MRD 28FEB1876 @ SCHOENLIND

Miscellany: 1902 INFO FROM SON ANTON’S BIRTH RECORD:Emilie Keilwerth, wohnhaft, living in Schönlind #74, geboren deshalbst, born in that place #51, ehelige tochter, legitimate daughter of Wenzl Keilwerth, Hauslars, house owner in Schönlind #51 und der Katharina geboren, née Hammerl aus, of Lindenhammer #10 (part of Bleistadt, now called Oloví).

Marr: 14 Apr 1898, SCHOENLIND PFARRAMT

Children: Josef (AloAnnLaut) (1899-1952)Anton (GertChism-PaulaHeller) (1902-1991)Franz (Lispeth) (1904-2002)

*Franz Josef 'Frank' (RosElisHeidl) LORENZ

1.3a.6 *Franz Josef 'Frank' (RosElisHeidl) LORENZ—————————————————————————————————————————————Birth: 16 Nov 1864, SCHOENLIND BOHEMIA/ CZECHDied &Home: 13 Jan 1923, CINCINNATI; DAYTON OHIO; ST ELIZTH HOSPBurial: DAYTON CALVARY CEM; CORPUS CHRISTI CHURCHImmi: 14 May 1891, EMIG USA 14MAY1891:STEAMER 'FRANZ JOSEF', BREMEN-BALTIMORECitizen: FILED NATURALIZATION PAPERS:30AUG1892; BECAME CITIZEN:16OCT1896Reside: 1902:TOOK CANALBOAT TO DAYTON; 1914-1920:RENTED DAVID MAST CABIN AT POLK GROVE, NORTH OF DAYTON

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Our Lorenz ConnectionsOcc: JANITOR; FENDER MOLDER, MAXWELL CARS; COOPER; FARMER; LOCKSMITHEduc: GYMNAST @ TURNERVEREIN/ GERMAN ATHLETIC CLUB; SHORT STATURE; RED MUSTACHE; 1900:READ, WROTE &SPOKE ENGLISH;Cause: 1913 CHEST RUPTURE; STOMACH & ESOPHAGEAL CANCER; DIEDAGE 59

1891 GUIDEBOOK ADVERTISEMENT:Norddeutscher Lloyd regular weekly Mail-Steamships between Baltimore und Bremenon the new and tested First Class Mail-Steamships equipped with all the comforts.These steamships were built of steel in Glasgow according to the latest designs. The superiority of their construction and the containment of compartments in water-tight sections offer travelers the largest degree of safety against the dangers of the sea.Electric lighting in compartments and steerage. The arrangements for steerage passengers, with sleeping quarters located on the upper and second decks, are generally considered excellent. The length of the steamers is 415 - 435 feet, with a width of 40-49 feet.The steamships of Norddeutscher Lloyd have transported some 2,250,000 passengers safely across the sea !! Good Food ! Reasonable Prices !This line offers tourists and immigrants a superior choice for the crossing. Cheap train travel from Baltimore to points west. Protection against frauds in Bremen, at sea, and in Baltimore. Immigrants can board trains directly from the steamship and as a result avoid extra costs for the transfer of baggage. No need to change trains between Baltimore, Chicago, and St. Louis.Translators accompany the immigrant on the trip to points west.TURNVEREIN DESCRIPTION:Turnverein included cultural programs which focused on German heritage while adapting to a new homeland in America, “a major focus was to preserve traditional German customs, language and celebrations. . . [and] spread German culture through songs, poetry and literature. . . They also tried to support and encourage the harsh life [adapting to] a foreign country, and to establish a bridge between the old culture and the new by offering English language classes and strongly supporting American citizenship. [It was a] social center with lectures and libraries for the further education of the German emigrants. . . many had restaurants or a bar connected to their Turner halls.”

Medical: Frank was extremely ill for several months before he passed away.“Dayton, 21 August 1922 “Liebe Lüella, Dear Luella, I am sorry that I have not written for so long, but last week I was too busy. Monday we were at the doctor’s, we were not home long when Uncle Wenzl [Frank’s brother who lived in Cincinnati] came and remained until Tuesday. . . Wednesday again at the doctor, Thursday I washed, I was half done Mrs. Henly came [a visiting nurse], then I had to cook at midday. it was 3 o’clock before I was finished. Friday ironed, Saturday again the doctor and up to that I had to give the house only a little dusting, since I was so tired. . . Since Saturday Papa does nothing but vomit blood, yesterday a piece came out as large as a tablespoon. . . Now I close with many greetings and kisses to you. . . Mother“Dayton, 27 August 1922 “Dear Luella, I have received your letter and card. . . Papa is still always the same, last week the doctor came to him and gave only one treatment. . . You write only when you can, you see more new things than we do, for us everything is as usual. Now I close with many greetings and kisses to you from your Mother.“Dayton 7 September 1922 “Dear Luella, I received your letter and dishes, they are very pretty and I thank you many times for them, it was your birthday Tuesday and I could not give you anything, you know what I have. We were again early today at the doctor, we have for only June and August already paid out $85, and that is still not all. I spoke to the nurse today, she said they cannot help him, they can do nothing further for him than give him relief, today he feels badly again.“Now I close with many greetings and kisses to you from your Mother.” Frank lingered for four more months; he spent his final days as a patient at St. Elizabeth’s Hospital in downtown Dayton. DAYTON NEWS OBIT:“Extended Illness Ended by Death; FRANK LORENZ; Following an extended illness, Frank Lorenz, 58, died Sunday morning at St. Elizabeth hospital. . . Funeral services will be conducted Wednesday at 8 am from Corpus Christi Church. Burial will be made in Calvary Cemetery. He was born in Bohemia in 1874 [sic; should be 1864]. At the age of 26 he came to America and made his residence in Cincinnati for several years, later coming to Dayton. He had been a resident of Dayton for 22 years. His widow, Rose; three daughters, Mrs. Rose Bertsch of Fort Houston, Texas; Josephine and Luella Lorenz, and one son, Anthony, survive.”ORIGINAL CALVARY CEMETERY MARKER:‘FATHER; FRANK LORENZ 1864 + 1923’REPLACED BY MARKER:IN LOVING MEMORY; LORENZ

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Our Lorenz ConnectionsMOTHER FATHER ROSA FRANKJULY 20, 1869 NOV. 16, 1864 SEPT. 5, 1952 JAN. 22, 1923

Miscellany: On 30 August 1892, Frank Lorenz filed his DECLARATION OF INTENTION when he personally appeared before the “Probate Judge and Ex-Officio Clerk of the PROBATE COURT within and for the COUNTY OF HAMILTON aforesaid, [Frank was] a native of Austria aged about 27 years bearing allegiance to the Emperor of Austria, who emigrated from Bremen on the 2nd of May 1891 and arrived at Baltimore on the 15 day of May 1891, and who intends to reside within the jurisdiction and under the GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES, to-wit: He makes report of himself for NATURALIZATION, and declares on oath that it is bona fide his intention to become a CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, and to forever renounce and abjure all ALLEGIANCE AND FIDELITY to every Foreign Prince, Potentate, State or Sovereignty whatsoever, and particularly to the Emperor of Austria.”On 16 October 1896, Frank had reason to celebrate his new American heritage when he “personally came to THE STATE OF OHIO, Hamilton County,probate court. . . and being admitted to CITIZENSHIP, by this court took the oath to support the Constitution of the United States of America, and that he then did absolutely and entirely forever renounce and abjure all ALLEGIANCE AND FIDELITY to every Foreign Prince, Potentate, State or Sovereignty whatsoever, and particularly to the Emperor of Austria. This is Therefore to Certify, That the said Frank Lorenz has complied with the Laws of the United States in such case made and provided, and is therefore admitted a CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES.”

*Rosa Elizabeth (FrankLore) HEIDLER

Spouse: *Rosa Elizabeth (FrankLore) HEIDLERBirth: 20 Jul 1869, NEUHAMMER BOHEMIA; NOVE HAMRY @CZECHDied &Home: 4 Sep 1952, OHIO; 1889:CINCINNATI; 1901:DAYTON; 1930:#121 FAIRVIEW; 1946:#2327 NEWPORTBurial: DAYTON, CALVARY CEMETERY W/HUSBANDImmi: 14 May 1891, EMIGRATED STEERAGE; HID SAUSAGES UNDER SKIRTS TO PROTECT THEIR FOODReside: FROM NEUHAMMER TO SCHOENLIND WAS 1 HOUR WALK; ROSA MET FRANK HALF-WAY IN THE EVENINGSOcc: FARMER; HOMEMAKER; QUILTER; GOLD STAR MOTHER; WHEN HUSBAND ILL; ROSA DID FARMWORK; MOVED TO TOWN AFTER SON JOE DIEDEduc: SPOKE GERMAN @HOME; PROUD TO BE AUSTRIAN; DETESTED GERMAN HITLER; FAMILY NOTED THAT ‘MAN WALKED ON MOON’ ON HER 100th BIRTHDAYCause: HEART ATTACK; DIED AGE 83 @LAKE GEORGE NYFather: *Franz (OttRosGareis) HEIDLER (1838-1886)Mother: *Ottilia 'Rosa' (FraHeid) GARREIS or GAREIS (1836-1915)

PRAYER CARD FOUND AMONGST ROSA’S PRAYER BOOKS, dated 20 July 1869:“Mein Liebes Patschen ! Suche zu erfüllen,Was Du durch andre johl verlörichst

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Our Lorenz ConnectionsVerehre Gott! befolg’ der Eltern Willen,Werd einst ein Mann-lei Menschenfreund und Christi.Diese Erinnerung giebt seinem lieben Taufkindesein Taufzeug; Joseph Heidler und Rosarina Heidler, dem 20 Juli 1869.” “My beloved godchild, seek to fulfill; what you have now through others’ promise; Give reverence to God! Follow your parents’ wishes; Become an adult who is a friend to mankind and a Christian. This remembrance is given to our dear godchild; Your faithful baptismal witnesses [godparents], Joseph and Rosarina Heidler.” Joseph and Rosarina Heidler were probably her uncle and aunt; it was customary in those times for siblings of the parents to become the godparents to the child.

HEIDLER INFO IN 14Jan1946 LETTER FROM JOSEPHINE LORENZ LIGHTNER TO SIS LUELLA LORENZ; SAYS ROSA BORN @ NEUHAMMER, THEN FAMILY MOVED TO LANZ/LOMNICE

Medical: DAYTON ADDRESSES: 1901 @ 851 W. GERMANTOWN; 1902 @ 300 So. BAXTER; 1903 @ 932 W. 5th; & 1904 @ 231 So. BAXTER; 1905 @ 105 W.GALE; 1909 @ ss MIAMI CHAPEL RD WEST of BROADWAY; 1913 @ 1344 MIAMI CHAPEL

Military: The Government of the United Statesextends an invitation toMrs. Rosa Lorenzto make a pilgrimage to the Cemetery in Europe where the remains of her Son are now interredLeaving New York on the Steamship America on May 7, 1930.A Dayton Journal news story dated 12 January 1930 further described the detailed arrangements,“Dayton Gold Star Mothers To Visit Graves of Heroes in France; Others Plan to Go Next Year; Two Weeks to be Allowed in Europe, With Everything Furnished; Touching Scenes are Enacted. Announced yesterday by Congressman Roy G. Fitzgerald, those who are going this year [include] Mrs. Rosa Lorenz, 121 East Fairview. . . The pilgrimage will be made shortly after May 1. . . the total number of widows and gold star mothers going this year from all over the nation will be 5,323. The total number entitled to make the trip during the time allotted, May 1, 1930 to October 31, 1933, is 11,440. . . All expenses will be paid by the government. Each one going will be provided with every possible comfort from their homes to France and return. It is estimated that the cost will average $840 per person. . . All mothers of American service men now buried in European cemeteries and widows of service men who have not remarried are entitled to make the trip. This is being done by the government as a token of recognition to those who gave their all and have not yet visited the graves of their loved ones. “Memories of more than 11 years ago were recalled. . . One mother said, ‘There is my boy in his uniform. He was so proud of it, and I too. That picture was taken just before he left. I never saw him again. Here is a picture of his grave. God bless him, I’ll soon see where he is resting. I was afraid that I would pass on and never see his grave’. . . Necessary papers have been sent. . . includes special passports, accommodations, re-entry papers, etc. Each one making the trip will be allowed two weeks in France. “Joseph Lorenz, member of the 150th Infantry, machine gun battalion, was wounded in September, 1918. He died on November 22. His grave will be visited by his mother.”On Monday, 5 May 1930, “Two mothers left Dayton [by train]. . . to visit the graves of their sons who marched away 12 years ago and never came back. Mrs. Rosa Lorenz and Mrs. Julia Lehwald, with gold star badges pinned on their breasts identifying them, said goodbye to relatives on the platform and were whisked away on the long pilgrimage. By the irony of fate, both the mothers are of German extraction. Their sons, killed in battle with the Germans in the fierce fighting of 1918, were buried in different cemeteries.”She wrote a letter home in German script and language, which was translated by her daughter Luella, “18 May 1930; Liebsten Kinder, Dearest children, Just a few lines to let you know I arrived well. It was about 10 o’clock Friday evening and by the time we were in our rooms and had a few things unpacked, it was one o’clock before we got to bed. Yesterday morning we all met in the sitting room where they told us everything we were going to do. In the afternoon we visited the grave of the Unknown Soldier and from there to the hotel for tea. There were a few higher ups there and they spoke until we returned to the hotel. It was already 6 pm. “Now it is between 7 and 8 pm. This morning we went to church and in the afternoon to the Cemetery Suresnes, where Joe is buried. It is a beautiful cemetery. But that was a little too much for one day, for I’ve had a headache since I came home. I will

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Our Lorenz Connectionsnot write much more as we are sailing again on the 29th and when I come I will be able to tell you all much better. “Mit besten grüßen und küßen, With best wishes and kisses, from your Mother”Joined by her daughter Josephine, Rosa stayed a few weeks with Luella in New York City before continuing on to Dayton. Rosa was interviewed “at the Brooklyn home of her married daughter, Mrs. Alfred Oelridge [sic],” by the New York World for publication in The Dayton Daily News, as the “first of the Dayton contingent to return to these shores”,Dayton War Mother Finds Joy and Sorrow in France “A cheery little lady of just past middle age who came to this country from Austria only to raise a son who was called upon to fight for her fatherland, Mrs. Lorenz said today that her pilgrimage was one of mingled ‘joy and sorrow.’ But in spite of the solemnity of visiting her boy’s grave, she now has the satisfaction of having seen the places where he fought valiantly, died and was buried. And she is exceedingly grateful to the government for having given her the opportunity and for the care with which the government keeps up our cemeteries in France. “Mrs. Lorenz said that the officials of both the United States and French governments had done everything within their power to make the Gold Star Pilgrimage a happy one. She was particularly impressed with the ovation given the group when it arrived on French soil at Cherbourg after a pleasant ocean crossing of ten days. Bands, cheers and speeches greeted them as they disem-barked from the tender. Given official courtesy, they were sped through the usually rigorous French customs inspection and started immediately for Paris, where they spent most of the following two weeks. “In Paris the group was divided into smaller groups, according to the cemeteries which each was to visit. Mrs. Lorenz and 18 others were guests at Hotel D’Iena. The group made almost daily visits to Suresnes, where the government furnished wreaths and fresh flowers for each mother and widow to put on the grave of her son or husband as the case might be. Suresnes, Mrs. Lorenz said, was kept in beautiful condition by a large crew of caretakers. Countless rows of marble stones, marking the graves beneath, rise from level turf so well kept as to look like green velvet. A beautiful stone chapel is just being completed. “When the groups were not at the cemeteries, they were taken about Paris and the battlefields on sight-seeing tours in huge buses. Mrs. Lorenz visited Chateau Thierry and Belleau Woods [Rosa told the interviewer that her Joe was wounded in action in Belleau Woods on 2 August 1918], and the trenches and dugouts still intact in these places, made her realize vividly what her son had been through.“In Paris she attended ceremonies at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier and the Cathedral of Sacre Coeur. She also visited Notre Dame, Versailles, the Louvre, and Napoleon’s Tomb. At many teas and luncheons, the group was fêted by high French and American officials, including General Pershing. Although in the center of things and styles feminine, Mrs. Lorenz said she spent very little time in actual shopping, although she smilingly admitted accompanying several others on their buying expeditions in the French shops. “I am glad to be home again,” she said in conclusion. “It has been a wonderful trip. I am feeling fine and I made many friends among the other Gold Star mothers. I am sorry that I had no opportunity to visit my old home in Austria, but time was too short. And I want to emphasize my appreciation of the courtesy and hospitality that was shown to all of us everywhere we went.”

Thanks to the front page of the Dayton Daily News on Veteran’s Day, 11 November 1941 (an ironic date; less than one month later Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, was bombed and America was at war again), we have an amazingly personal expression of our Rosa’s thoughts and feelings about her family and about her adopted country. We see a photograph of Rosa looking at her family album, surrounded by the faces of Joseph F. Lorenz, William A. Bertsch, Joseph F. Bertsch, Hugh C. Bertsch, Lieut. Karl A. Minke, and young Karl A. Minke, Jr.

“Gold Star Mother Speaks on Armistice Day “On this 23rd World war Armistice day anniversary, one of Dayton’s Gold Star mothers, Mrs. Rose Lorenz, 73 years old, speaks some of her thoughts of the past, the present and the future. Mentally alert and physically active despite her years, she relaxes in a limousine with several other Gold Star mothers, a part of the Tuesday morning Armistice day parade here while the marching feet of veterans of past wars bring memories of that Nov. 11, 1918, when the world celebrated the end of a war to save democracy. “This Gold Star mother thinks and speaks of her son, Joseph Lorenz, who is buried in Suresnes cemetery, near Paris, France. He died Nov. 21, 1918, just 10 days after a joyous Armistice day celebration here, in which thousands paraded and jammed streets and sidewalks for miles. Wounds received in the Aisne-Marne offensive caused Joseph’s death. As the marching feet of yesterday’s soldiers beat an uncertain cadence, this Gold Star mother thinks and speaks of another crop of war veterans that may be in the making now. “The parade is over, she is driven back to E. Fairview avenue home of one of her six children. She sits quietly in a comfortable rocker, and she thinks of a mankind challenged by forces that would destroy or deny American ideals of liberty. She speaks, ‘If we all get together, if Uncle Sam puts his foot in now; it will soon be over.’ She has in mind America’s year-old preparations for defense. “She thinks that defense has to be speeded up, and that it has to be more than a preparation against attack. She sees the pulsing strength of millions of American men and women, in shops and in offices; on the farms and in the mines; in uniforms and in civilian clothing. She sees the need of all this potential strength amassed and thrown into the struggle now, to rid the world of

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Our Lorenz Connectionsdictators and dictatorship ideologies. Again, she speaks, ‘This time, I hope, I pray, and I know, that they will catch him for good and for all time.’ “By ‘him’, Mrs. Lorenz means Hitler and all that he represents in this world struggle, which she sees as America’s own struggle if there is to be a hopeful future to leave to her descendants; if there is to be a spiritual heritage and a people’s government of men and women determined to remain free. Mrs. Lorenz believes that America must be ready for sacrifice again in the cause of freedom. She expresses that belief, not in a knowledge that she has made her sacrifice, but knowing that there is more of her flesh and blood that may be sacrificed ‘again, in our cause of human freedom.’ “This Gold Star mother, who lost one of her two sons in the World war, knows what faces her and her descendants if and when the United States again makes a supreme sacrifice. A daughter and a granddaughter have husbands in the armed service. Her nephew, virtually an adopted son [Anton Lorenz] is in the United States naval service. As she surveys these tragic times, with their possible consequences to this western world, she speaks as a Gold Star mother when she calls for the crash and roar of production, the delivery of tanks and planes, and machines, and metals to aid those who now are ‘protecting for us, values we hold dearer than life itself.’ “Mrs. Lorenz and her late husband came to the United States in 1891. She was born in the Hartz [sic; should be Erz] mountain regions of Neuhammer, the Bohemian part of Austria. That mountainous section, she remembers, was a part of the Sudetenland, which Hitler first masticated as his appetite for world domination grew. ‘When he went into the Sudetenland,’ Mrs. Lorenz recalls, ‘it looked like that would be all, but now look.’ She knows a lot about the struggles of the people in the Old World, a great part of which is being crushed beneath a dictator’s heel. She does not want this country’s national morale -- a faith of a people in themselves, in their actions and in their inner strength -- to be sapped as the morale of nations in other lands was dissipated. “This Gold Star mother, one of a score in Dayton who today observed another World war Armistice day, came to this city in 1901, from Cincinnati. Before World War No. 1, her family ties were interwoven with the United States armed service. In 1916, her eldest daughter Rose married William A. Bertsch, a soldier on the Mexican border. One of her granddaughters, Pauline Bertsch, was born in 1917 at Camp Colt, Gettysburg, Pa. That same granddaughter is now living at Camp Shelby, Miss. She is the wife of Lieut. Karl A. Minke. Mrs. Lorenz’s great-grandson, Karl Minke, jr., was born last year at Piqua, and is now with his parents, Lieut. and Mrs. Minke, at Camp Shelby. “Two grandsons, Hugh C. Bertsch and Joseph F. Bertsch, the sons of Army Staff Sgt. William A. Bertsch, who has been in the service continuously since 1912, soon will be entering the armed service. Hugh Bertsch, who won a fellowship to Harvard, graduated cum laude in June 1940, and who was commissioned a second lieutenant in the field artillery unit, Reserve Officers’ Training Corps, is now employed in a chemical works in St. Louis. He has been notified that he will be called to active duty in 60 days as a second lieutenant with the field artillery. “Joseph F. Bertsch, who was born in 1922 at Fort Sam Houston, Tex, is enrolled in the coast artillery unit, reserve officers training corps, and expects to major in aeronautical engineering at the University of Cincinnati. Upon completion of his training, he expects to go into service, on active duty with the coast artillery. “‘And Pauline writes me,’ smiles Mrs. Lorenz, ‘that if Karl has to go, she will drive an ambulance, and I can take care of young Karl. Yes, I’d like that.’ In New York, another of Mrs. Lorenz’s daughters, Mrs. Louella Cochran, a registered nurse, is taking ‘refresher training’. She writes her mother, ‘We want to be ready when we are needed.’ “Anthony Lorenz, the second son to see World War No. 1 service, was in the army before the United States entered that war. After the Armistice, he came back home to Dayton; and is now a city fireman at the Main and Forest avenue station. ‘We just don’t know where Anthony, my other boy, is,’ says Mrs. Lorenz. She refers to her nephew (whom she calls her boy), Anthony Lorenz, who joined the United States navy two years after he came to this country from Austria. Sailor Lorenz is now chief commissary steward ‘somewhere on the Pacific side.’ “Mrs. Lorenz thought of and talked about all these things as she thumbed through the family album at the home of her daughter, Mrs. Walter [sic] Lightner, the wife of a Dayton letter carrier. The Armistice day parade ranks had long since broken; soldiers of yesteryear’s wars were on their way home, or to meetings, and speeches, as Mrs. Lorenz closed her family album. “It could have been a coincidence, that all the while this Gold Star mother was speaking of the past, the present and the future, she had not turned the pages of that photographic family history further forward than to the year 1918. On that page are three photographs: One of Joseph Lorenz, a serious-faced youngster in a dark brown suit and a celluloid collar; another, taken in the Suresnes cemetery (near Paris, France), of a white cross, on which is this inscription: ‘Private Joseph Lorenz, 113391, Co. C 150 M.G. Bn., died Nov. 21, 1918;’ and the third of Mrs. Rose Lorenz, taken in 1930, as she stood beside that white cross. “Mrs. Lorenz remembers that photo taken in France in 1930. She talks about ‘going across’ with other Gold Star mothers who made the trip to see other such white crosses. She, too, remembers the France of that day, and she thinks of what she reads about the occupied France of today. She thinks of many things, among them that ‘right cannot compromise with wrong,’ this Gold Star mother, who speaks: ‘And if we all get together, if Uncle Sam puts his foot in it now, it will all soon be over.’ by Joe Scherrer”

Miscellany: WRITTEN BY HER DAUGHTER LUELLA: “MY EULOGY TO MY MOTHER

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Our Lorenz Connections “A little old lady, a Gold Star mother, passed away on 5 September 1952. . There was no sound of brass trumpets, no eulogies of her goodness and her accomplishments. . . She had not served materially in high places or offices, her name had passed unnoticed among those of her sisters, but she was truly goodness in all its aspects and definitions. Her friends mourned her, for by her simplicity of word and action she had become entrenched in their hearts. “As she gave of her love and service to her God, so did she give unstintingly of her love, time and patience to her fellow man. Time had aged and mellowed her. Sadness and memories of her own she had, but these were discovered only after her death: a few cherished pictures, a bit of ribbon here, a verse there, her son Joseph’s medal and keepsakes and many more. As we look back we can only surmise and have a kaleidoscopic view [of] the scenes she must have enacted when alone. A little old lady, but her memories were forever young and tender. Age produces wrinkles, but in memory there are none of these.”

Marr: 1891, BOHEMIA

Children: Wenzel Lawrence (1892-1895)Anthony Frank (EvaHafn) (1893-1974)*Rose Elizabeth (WmBert) (1895-1983)Joseph Conrad Frank, Private First Class (1896-1918)Luella Bertha Veronica (AlOld-FraCoch-WinDav) (1901-1987)George Herman (1906-1906)Josephine Anna Irene (WaltLigh) (1912-1986)

1.3b *Josef (RegKathRicht-RegKrautn) LORENZ* (See above)—————————————————————————————————————————————

Spouse: Regina (JoseLore) KRÄUTNERBirth: 1829, KOHLING BOHEMIA; HAUSNUMMER #47Died &Home: SCHOENLIND BOHEMIAOcc: DESCENDANT REINHOLD ERLBECK IS FAMILY HISTORIANEduc: MOM ANNA MARIA KRAUTNER; GRANDPARENTS JOHANN KRAUTNER & VERONIKA KRAUS

EMAIL MARCH 2007: Hello from Bavaria - Germany! Josef Lorenz (*1827) married 1869 - after the death of his first wife -  Regina Krautner.What a surprise to hear from you. Indeed I happen to be very often in Schönlind, where my mother was born. It is only 300 km from here and there is a very nice, beautiful landscape. The village is half destroyed as all the Germans had to leave in 1946. There is only one old lady of German descent. She knows a lot of all the old families. The neighbor-village Vogldorf is completely destroyed.As I am interested in our family-history I did a lot of research. By this I met an old lady from Schönlind, she is 95 and was also pushed out in 1946. She even remembers, when my grandfather returned from first world war in 1918. And she knows too that the uncles of my mother went to USA. She even was the best friend of my mother. My mother is a daughter of Valentine Lorenz. She always told me, that the half-brothers of her mother Valentine went to USA. My cousin told me in 1985 that they went to Cincinnati. In this year I even tried to phone to one Lorenz - family in Cinci, without success. Perhaps it was the wrong family. Last year I discovered by incident the excellent Lorenz-Homepage. My congratulations! It was very interesting to be read. But just one information: the town Schönlinde is in North-Bohemia and is not Schönlind. I have some old view cards from that home of our ancestors and even new photos. In some books are also published some histories. My postal address: Reinhold Erlbeck, Kistlerstraße 2, D-85635 Höhenkirchen Yours truly; Reinhold Erlbeck

Miscellany: VIA REINHOLD ERLBECK: Our houses had numbers and in the records of a birth, a marriage or a death the priest always wrote the number of the houses. Therefore I do know in which houses our ancestors were born and from where their husbands or wives came.I have a copy of the birth book of Schönlind. Maria f.e. was born on 7.8.1874 in House Nr. 28 too. Her mother was Regina, born Kräutner from Kohling Nr. 44. Schödl was living in Nr. 90 in Schönlind. 

Marr: 1869, SCHOENLIND BOHEMIA; VIA FAMILY INFOChildren: Maria (1874-)

Paulina (1876-1876)Valentina (FranzHüttl) (1870-1928)

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Other spouses: *Regina Katharina (JosLor) RICHTER

1.3b.1 Maria LORENZ—————————————————————————————————————————————Birth: 7 Aug 1874, SCHOENLIND BOHEMIA; HAUSNUMMER #28; VIA FAMILY INFO

VIA REINHOLD ERLBECK: Our houses had numbers and in the records of a birth, a marriage or a death the priest always wrote the number of the houses. Therefore I do know in which houses our ancestors were born and from where their husbands or wives came.I have a copy of the birth book of Schönlind. Maria f.e. was born on 7.8.1874 in House Nr. 28 too. Her mother was Regina, born Kräutner from Kohling Nr. 44. Schödl was living in Nr. 90 in Schönlind. 

1.3b.2 Paulina LORENZ—————————————————————————————————————————————Birth: 1876, SCHOENLIND BOHEMIA; VIA FAMILY INFODied &Home: 1876, SCHOENLIND BOHEMIABurial: SCHOENLIND BOHEMIA; VIA FAMILY INFO

1.3b.3 Valentina (FranzHüttl) LORENZ—————————————————————————————————————————————Birth: 1870, SCHOENLIND BOHEMIA; VIA FAMILY INFODied &Home: 1928, SCHOENLIND BOHEMIABurial: SCHOENLIND BOHEMIA; VIA FAMILY INFO

Spouse: Franz (ValenLore) HÜTTLBirth: 1872, SCHOENLIND BOHEMIA; VIA FAMILY INFODied &Home: 1943, SCHOENLIND BOHEMIABurial: SCHOENLIND BOHEMIA; VIA FAMILY INFOReside: 1918: RETURNED TO SCHOENLIND AFTER WARTIME SERVICE

FROM REINHOLD: My grandfather Hüttl had a brother who went in the Austrian Monarchie to Hungaria. He was a glassmaker.  I found a trace in a small town in later Romania, but he got lost. But I met in Schönlind last year an old lady, the last German, and she told me, that during the war a family Hüttl came back from Hungaria. And it is the same with the Lorenz-familiy. I am still astonished, that my cousin Walter knew exactly about Cincinnati. There must have been connections after WW I.

Military: SERVED WITH THE GERMAN MILITARY DURING WW1

Children: Anna (WaltFürtsch) (1903-)Maria (RoderErlbeck) (1912-1980)

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AUPPERLE Anna Mary 'Annie' (AntonLore) (1866 - >1930) spouse of 1.3a.4b

BENNER Louisa 'Lizzie' (RobLoren) (1870 - 1957) spouse of 1.2.9

FRIEDL *Maria Elisabetha (JosSchoe) (ca1780 - ) parent of spouse of 1

GARREIS or GAREIS *Ottilia 'Rosa' (FraHeid) (1836 - 1915) parent of spouse of 1.3a.6

HAGEN Theresa (FrankLore) (1863 - 1945) spouse of 1.2.8

HEIDLER *Franz (OttRosGareis) (1838 - 1886) parent of spouse of 1.3a.6*Rosa Elizabeth (FrankLore) (1869 - 1952) spouse of 1.3a.6

HOFFMAN Maria ‘Mary’ (WenzLore) (1863 - 1936) spouse of 1.3a.3

HÜTTL Anna (WaltFürtsch) (1903 - ) child of 1.3b.3Franz (ValenLore) (1872 - 1943) spouse of 1.3b.3Maria (RoderErlbeck) (1912 - 1980) child of 1.3b.3

KEILWERTH Emilie (KarLore) (1876 - 1904) spouse of 1.3a.5

KRÄUTNER Regina (JoseLore) (1829 - ) spouse of 1.3b

LANG Elizabeth (AntLorenz) ( - ca1907) spouse of 1.3a.4a

LORENZ *Franz Josef 'Frank' (RosElisHeidl) (1864 - 1923) 1.3a.6*Franz Wenzel (TherSchoedl) (1800 - ) 1*Josef (AnnMarFraRud) (1769 - ) parent of 1*Josef (RegKathRicht-RegKrautn) (1827 - ) 1.3a*Rose Elizabeth (WmBert) (1895 - 1983) child of 1.3a.6Adolf (1862 - 1862) 1.2.4Anna 'Annie' (AlbSeit) (1907 - 1995) child of 1.2.9Anna (mrd?) (ca1865 - ) 1.3a.2Anthony Frank (EvaHafn) (1893 - 1974) child of 1.3a.6Anton (1856 - ) 1.2.2Anton (ElizLang-AnnaAupp) (1863 - >1930) 1.3a.4aAnton (GertChism-PaulaHeller) (1902 - 1991) child of 1.3a.5Anton (JosePaulGotth) (1899 - 1937) child of 1.2.9Barbara (1868 - 1869) 1.2.6Barbara (1884 - ) child of 1.2.1Bernard 'Ben' (1891 - 1916) child of 1.3a.4aCaroline 'Carrie' (JohnStef-FloyCald) (1895 - 1973) child of 1.2.9Clara 'Clarie' (WaltHelmke) (1902 - 1975) child of 1.2.8Emma (BenKarr-MacRoyal) (1896 - 1987) child of 1.2.8Frank Private First Class (1896 - ) child of 1.3a.4aFrank (ElsieDerh) (1892 - 1960) child of 1.2.8Franz (Lispeth) (1904 - 2002) child of 1.3a.5Franz Xavier (1834 - ) 1.1George Herman (1906 - 1906) child of 1.3a.6Helmuth (1899 - 1946) child of 1.2.8

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Our Lorenz ConnectionsJosef (1858 - 1858) 1.2.3Josef (AloAnnLaut) (1899 - 1952) child of 1.3a.5Joseph Conrad Frank, Private First Class (1896 - 1918) child of 1.3a.6Joseph or Josef (1889 - ) child of 1.3a.4aJosephine Anna Irene (WaltLigh) (1912 - 1986) child of 1.3a.6Julia (1871 - ) 1.2.7Julius Private First Class (1893 - ) child of 1.3a.4aKarl (EmKeilw) (1867 - 1908) 1.3a.5Louis (MeadyMaeGlas) (1894 - 1950) child of 1.2.8Ludwig (1902 - ) child of 1.2.9Luella Bertha Veronica (AlOld-FraCoch-WinDav) (1901 - 1987) child of 1.3a.6Maria (1874 - ) 1.3b.1Maria (JosSchu) (1865 - 1942) 1.2.1Oscar Julia (OlgaMaryWagen) (1892 - 1964) child of 1.2.9Paulina (1876 - 1876) 1.3b.2Philip (WilhelSchuer) (1831 - 1910) 1.2Robert (LouBenn) (1859 - 1935) 1.2.9Robert William (PaulSchoel) (1888 - 1920) child of 1.2.8Sidney (RoseIdaStaut) (1890 - 1945) child of 1.2.8Sophia 'Sophie' (JosSchönecker) (ca1860 - >1935) 1.3a.1Theresia (1863 - 1863) 1.2.5Valentina (FranzHüttl) (1870 - 1928) 1.3b.3Walter (Arva) (1896 - 1975) child of 1.2.9Wenzel Lawrence (1892 - 1895) child of 1.3a.6Wenzel (MaryHoffm) (1859 - 1927) 1.3a.3

RICHTER *Adalbert (AnnRud) parent of spouse of 1.3a*Regina Katharina (JosLor) (1829 - >1867) spouse of 1.3a

RUDOLPH *Anna (AdalRich) (1800 - ) parent of spouse of 1.3a

RUDOLPH or RUTTOLPH *Franziska Anna Maria (JosLor) (1773 - ) parent of 1

SCHOEDL *Josef (MarElisFriedl) parent of spouse of 1*Theresia (FraWenzLor) (ca1805 - ) spouse of 1

SCHÖNECKER Emilie (KarlRölz) (1881 - ) child of 1.3a.1Joseph (SophLorenz) (ca1860 - ) spouse of 1.3a.1

SCHUERER Joseph (MariLore) (ca1860 - ) spouse of 1.2.1Wilhelmine (PhilLore) (1831 - ) spouse of 1.2

SCHUERER LORENZ Franz 'Frank' (TherHagen) (1851 - 1927) 1.2.8

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