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Thursday 9th August 2012Hosted by @ukedchat - What specifically turns off students?

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ukedchat 20:00

It's 8pm. Welcome to #ukedchat this week. Topic="What specifically turns

off students today to the most common methods of teaching?"

oldandrewuk 20:01

#ukedchat "turns off" is a bit of a weasel phrase. It could mean

"bores/doesn't entertain", "challenges", "displeases" or it could mean...

ukedchat 20:03 Distracted by 800m final....ok, here we go with #ukedchat

JanP65 20:03 Out of sync with how they 'learn' on their own. #ukedchat

JackieCarr3 20:03 @ukedchat "fails to engage"?

lewis892 20:03

What turns off students? Chalk and talk teaching. Flipped classroom the

future? #ukedchat

oldandrewuk 20:03

#ukedchat ..."requires effort to pay attention to" or "requires

concentration". Not all of these are bad things. Learning's not constant

fun

MichelleDhillon 20:04 RT @ukedchat: Distracted by 800m final....ok, here we go with #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:04 @oldandrewuk What works best for you? #ukedchat

JanP65 20:04 Flipped classroom is really interesting. #ukedchat

LawrenceBham 20:04

#ukedchat "What specifically turns off students today to the most

common methods of teaching?"


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Mad_teach 20:05 @JanP65 what does a flipped classroom mean? #ukedchat

rapclassroom 20:05 @ukedchat er.. What does that question mean?! #ukedchat

JanP65 20:05 @MichelleDhillon Lol! I know! #ukedchat

anthonydking 20:05

Beyond the Olympic glory lies a patchy future for school sports

http://t.co/Tr58HQ1e #ukedchat

JanP65 20:05

@oldandrewuk But could that not be that they are forced to learn in

styles not appropriate to their needs? #ukedchat

gingamusings 20:05

#ukedchat... believing that their teacher thinks they can't do it..Absolum

said relationships are the cornerstone of teaching

lewis892 20:06

Good relationships with students are essential to enable good teaching

and learning to take place #ukedchat

Mad_teach 20:06 #ukedchat keeping it fresh and exciting keeps em on their toes!

nickotkdIV 20:06

@ukedchat i think chd get turned off by teachers who still stick to the

traditional 3 part lesson.

oldandrewuk 20:06

#ukedchat Group work is also pretty unpleasant for those who want to

learn if they are in a group with those who don't.

JamesTheo 20:06

@EmmaHam63497594 You turned up in time for #ukedchat which runsfrom 8-9pm every Thurs. You should find people to follow as well as join

in!

esoldaveglasgow 20:06

#ukedchat Working in ESOL in UK, we see a lot of Internationals put off by

'gamelike' classroom activity, so we need to 'sell' OUR method.

gingamusings 20:07

@oldandrewuk #ukedchat totally agree group work can be the worst.

Especially for those students who naturally work alone

ukedchat 20:07

@rapclassroom Which teaching methods don't work for pupils?

#ukedchat

JanP65 20:07

@oldandrewuk Very true. Why it is important to very learning structures

and give choice. Listen to 'learner voice' so to speak.

jamesdhobsonuk 20:07

#Ukedchat i hope this session isn't used to promote individual's pet

creed, fad or theory. I can feel it already. Best be specific?

oldandrewuk 20:07

#ukedchat Any type of activity which keeps kids busy but serves no

purpose beyond practising an ill-defined "skill" is frustrating.

MarieWallace7 20:07

@oldandrewuk: #ukedchat Group work is also pretty unpleasant for

those who want to learn if they are in a group with those who don't.

gingamusings 20:07

@ukedchat #ukedchat Totally agree trust is huge but once given it can

easily be broken by a careless comment by teachers

syded06 20:07@oldandrewuk very true and can be difficult to manage if teacher doesn't'know' students #ukedchat

MichelleDhillon 20:07 @JanP65 :) Back to topic now #ukedchat

MichelleDhillon 20:08

@ukedchat Would the phrase 'turn on', even though slightly rude,

perhaps be better? ;) #ukedchat

syded06 20:08

@ukedchat @JanP65 students still require the skill of listening and

patience #ukedchat

gingamusings 20:08 agreed @oldandrewuk @lewis892 #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:08

Joining #ukedchat this evening. http://t.co/RVshcCok is a great site

#ukedchat

kanda_hh 20:08@ukedchat I don't think ch need / should expect constant 'entertainment'- thats not always learning #ukedchat

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Mad_teach 20:08

@oldandrewuk #ukedchat or just in a grp with ppl u don't get along with.

But then with friends working together there can be too much chat!

learningteachr 20:08

Ofsted lesson criteria are likely a predictable and dull routine for students

who learn to parrot them #ukedchat

kanda_hh 20:08 @ukedchat does it 'turn them off' from learning? #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:08@oldandrewuk Are you talking from a secondary and/or primaryperspective? #ukedchat

Mad_teach 20:09

@kanda_hh @ukedchat #ukedchat v true but if there's a bit of

entertainment r they more likely to be attentive?

oldandrewuk 20:09

#ukedchat Any lesson which is about discussing feelings is unbearable for

many kids. Unjustified intrusion into their lives.

ukedchat 20:09 @syded06 So this needs to be taught from an early age? #ukedchat

JanP65 20:09

@jamesdhobsonuk I think that not every 'method' works for every

learner, classroom and situation. Not one answer for every sit. #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:09

@kanda_hh Do you feel this is a recent change of expectation with pupils,

or something more historic? #ukedchat

teacherofy5 20:09

@oldandrewuk students/chn know when you give activity just 'to keep

busy' - agree with you #ukedchat - must serve a purpose, learn something

lewis892 20:09

We need more project based work that is relevant and personalised to

each learner. Like year 7 pods @collegiatehigh #ukedchat

oldandrewuk 20:09

#ukedchat "No hands up" is torture for kids who know the answer. Even if

they don't get to answer at least with hands up they show interest.

gingamusings 20:10

#ukedchat make the learning relevant and authentic - and it will be

entertaining...We don't have to be #actors

oldandrewuk 20:10

#ukedchat Waiting is probably the chief torture of school. If teachers are

not prepared or have no pace it is, again, highly frustrating.

teacherofy5 20:10

#ukedchat Any lesson which is about discussing feelings is unbearable for

many kids. Unjustified intrusion into their lives.@oldandrewuk

GeorgeEBlack 20:10RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat Any lesson which is about discussingfeelings is unbearable for many kids. Unjustified intrusion into their lives.

lewis892 20:10

@MichelleDhillon @ukedchat I agree..slightly rude haha but much

better #Ukedchat

Michael_Merrick 20:10

RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat Any lesson which is about discussing

feelings is unbearable for many kids. Unjustified intrusion into their lives.

Apple4teacherz 20:10

RT @ukedchat: 45 minutes until #ukedchat, this week talking about

"What specifically turns off students today to the most common methods

of teaching?"


RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat Group work is also pretty unpleasant for

those who want to learn if they are in a group with those who don't.

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EmathsUK 20:10

#ukedchat Single biggest reason for turning off: the change in society that

sees ed treated with no respect.

ukedchat 20:10

@JanP65 So how is this manageable with large class sizes then?

#ukedchat

kanda_hh 20:10

@ukedchat I think it's all about the person facilitating the learning -

reading the group of children, using what works for them #ukedchat


RT @gingamusings: #ukedchat Also! Lots of time in whole class

instruction that they already know about...40-50% of what you teach they

already know

tillio2 20:10

RT @MarieWallace7: @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat Group work is also

pretty unpleasant for those who want to learn if they are in a group with

those who don't.

Apple4teacherz 20:10 RT @ukedchat: Distracted by 800m final....ok, here we go with #ukedchat

lewis892 20:10

@syded06 @ukedchat @JanP65 absolutely! This needs to be part of the

curriculum when they start high school in year 7urban_teacher 20:11 Teachers Talking Too Much! #ukedchat

mattharding007 20:11 @oldandrewuk Generalising and exaggerating again I see. #ukedchat

lewis892 20:11

@oldandrewuk but important for some students, I feel SEAL is an

important lesson and needs to be embedded in the curriculum #ukedchat

gingamusings 20:11

RT @JanP65: @jamesdhobsonuk I think that not every 'method' works for

every learner, classroom and situation. Not one answer for every sit.

#ukedchat


RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat "No hands up" is torture for kids who know

the answer. Even if they don't get to answer at least with hands up they

show interest.

EmathsUK 20:11

#ukedchat It's not about the activities... Kids from cultural backgrounds

that respect and value ed consistently show this

ukedchat 20:11

RT @EmathsUK: #ukedchat Single biggest reason for turning off: the

change in society that sees ed treated with no respect. #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:12 @syded06 #ukedchat

kanda_hh 20:12

@Mad_teach @ukedchat I view entertainment as being different to

providing the children with something interesting and stimulating

#ukedchat

oldandrewuk 20:12

#ukedchat Having to find answers out for yourself isn't fun. Makes sense

when that means working something out; less so for looking stuff up


Agree it's hard to produce a one size fits all solution. Learners all

individuals & needs wildly divergent #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:12

Ok, with all this new #edtech around, can that raise the expectation that

learning should be exciting? #ukedchat

syded06 20:12

@ukedchat certainly secondary school. How many meetings do we sit in

that last an hour with little of our own input #ukedchat

hood1960 20:13

RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat But there are things currently in fashionthat do "turn off" students who want to learn. Group work is torture for

introverts.

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oldandrewuk 20:13

#ukedchat Coursework. Kids, particularly boys, hate coursework. They

know the whole exercise is a meaningless joke.

JanP65 20:13

@ukedchat Great question. Problem-based learning can address this.

Broad enough can be designed diff for diff learners and classes #ukedchat

MichelleDhillon 20:13 @lewis892 @ukedchat Yay to agreement! Erm wow, what an avi :D

learningteachr 20:13

@ukedchat @EmathsUK plus low expectations of young people in state

schools that aren't academies. We don't all want to be like mossbourne!

MrG_ICT 20:14 Too much talk - hand over to kids as early as possible #ukedchat

syded06 20:14

@ukedchat edtech is certainly making it easier to personalise learning

#ukedchat

Butterflycolour 20:14 @ukedchat #edtech #ukedchat

kanda_hh 20:14

@ukedchat Probably quite recent - the Labour legacy of 'getting

something for nothing' etc #ukedchat

JanP65 20:14

RT @MichelleDhillon: Agree its hard to produce a one size fits all solution.

Learners all individuals & needs wildly divergent #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:14

A good teacher can tell when pupils are not engaged with the learning,

and adjust their teaching mid-way through a session True? #ukedchat

GeorgeEBlack 20:14

#ukedchat worksheets, and presenting the students with a big course

book! I find both a turn off with students, I teach mostly a level.

kanda_hh 20:15

@ukedchat absolutely agree! This is what keeps ch engaged, not any

specific style or method #ukedchat

JellieK80 20:15

@ukedchat Very true and the better you know the chn the less likely this

will happen.

lewis892 20:15 @ukedchat or they could use the @Understoodit app :) #ukedchat

isleofmandan 20:15

RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat Waiting is probably the chief torture of

school. If teachers are not prepared or have no pace it is, again, highly

frustrating.

EmathsUK 20:15

#ukedchat Another reason is teachers being cardboard cut outs of each

other, regurgitating govt diktat. Let teachers have their own pedagogy

JamesTheo 20:15@oldandrewuk English requires pupils to give personal as well as criticalresponses. Feelings important here. #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:15 @GeorgeEBlack Do you resist teaching like this then? #ukedchat

GeorgeEBlack 20:15 @ukedchat true... It's having the confidence to do so #ukedchat

JanP65 20:15

@ukedchat Yes, because they monitor learning throughout.. checking

understanding not just at the end.. #ukedchat

oldandrewuk 20:15 @ukedchat #ukedchat I find actually teaching them works best.

Butterflycolour 20:15 @ukedchat #edtech #ukedchat When has learning not been exciting!?!

mattharding007 20:15

@oldandrewuk More generalisation. You're particularly negative tonight.

Anything positive and helpful to say? #ukedchat

syded06 20:15 @GeorgeEBlack my two pet hates - couldn't agree more #ukedchat

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MrsThorne 20:16

#ukedchat we've had a big emphasis on group work since Easter; some

students polled feel too much of this impinges on independent learning


@ukedchat Yes! So much potential to harness #edtech for ALL subjects,

even social media should be used imho #ukedchat

gingamusings 20:16@ukedchat true that - formative assessment is the best way. Only ateacher with sound content and pedagogical know-how can-do

ukedchat 20:16

@kanda_hh So we view pupils as consumers now. The roles are changing?

#ukedchat


@ukedchat Definitely true. A good teacher shouldn't rigidly stick to plans.

#ukedchat

Mad_teach 20:16

@ukedchat #ukedchat u have to read the class. If they're getting bored

have a brain break or even a quick run outside.

JanP65 20:16

RT @MrG_ICT: Too much talk - hand over to kids as early as possible

#ukedchat

ukedchat 20:17 @oldandrewuk How do YOU define teaching though? #ukedchat

MrsThorne 20:17

AGREE! I think learning is always exciting too RT @Butterflycolour

@ukedchat #edtech #ukedchat When has learning not been exciting!?!

Mainy83 20:17

RT @oldandrewuk: @ukedchat #ukedchat I find actually teaching them

works best.

urban_teacher 20:17

RT @ukedchat: "A good teacher can tell when pupils are not engaged

with the learning, and adjust their teaching mid-way through a session"

True? #ukedchat

GeorgeEBlack 20:17

@ukedchat yep, subject coursework is submitted by blog, so we try and

keep paperless... Students less intimidated... But still get input

ukedchat 20:17

@Butterflycolour Exciting and engaging are two different things though?

#ukedchat


Controlled Assessment is a turn off often; it is high stakes, cut corners

learning that stresses for no good reason. #ukedchat

oldandrewuk 20:17

RT @syded06: @oldandrewuk very true and can be difficult to manage if

teacher doesn't 'know' students #ukedchat

teacherofy5 20:18 @gingamusings @oldandrewuk It's about relationship - trust #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:18

RT @JellieK80: @ukedchat Very true and the better you know the chn the

less likely this will happen #ukedchat

syded06 20:18

@ukedchat @Butterflycolour not all students are going to be engaged by

every lesson. I guess the trick is to adapt and overcome #ukedchat

JanP65 20:18

@ukedchat Definitely Learners and how they learn has changed Society

has chged drastically Todays society dosent fit with trad ed. #ukedchat


@ukedchat That's quite hard to do when said pupils are clearly more

'engaged' in their Facebook account ;) #ukedchat

GeorgeEBlack 20:18RT @oldandrewuk: @JanP65 #ukedchat Strangely enough, giving learnerschoice is not a good way to deal with kids who don't want to learn.

ukedchat 20:18 @EmathsUK A lack of trust with profession though #ukedchat

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nickotkdIV 20:18

RT @MichelleDhillon: Agree it's hard to produce a one size fits all

solution. Learners all individuals & needs wildly divergent #ukedchat

oldandrewuk 20:18

RT @gingamusings: @oldandrewuk #ukedchat totally agree group work

can be the worst. Especially for those students who naturally work alone

kanda_hh 20:18@ukedchat Maybe so, but I don't think this is always in their bestinterests. We are the experts after all. #ukedchat

oldandrewuk 20:18

@JanP65 #ukedchat Strangely enough, giving learners choice is not a

good way to deal with kids who don't want to learn.

Butterflycolour 20:19

@ukedchat #ukedchat Surely they are inter & intra dependent! Wouldn't

be in education if learning wasn't exciting ~ co-constructive process

JanP65 20:19

@oldandrewuk Ok. Agree, that is why there should not be one right way.

Should vary depending on situation/stud #ukedchat

oldandrewuk 20:19@ukedchat I'm a secondary teacher but this applies for much of primarytoo, although with very small children it's a bit different #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:19

RT @gingamusings: #ukedchat true that - form assessment is the best

way. Only a teacher with sound content and pedagogical know-how can-

do

JazzieDe 20:19

You need to be interested and motivated yourself in the work to

motivate and keep the children engaged, planning for individuals

#ukedchat

lewis892 20:19

RT @MichelleDhillon: @ukedchat That's quite hard to do when said pupils

are clearly more 'engaged' in their Facebook account ;) #ukedchat

MissJLud 20:19

Right I need literacy games, actual games not too interactive, easy to play

and in groups, ks3 low reading ages....ideas please! #ukedchat

nickotkdIV 20:19

RT @JellieK80: @ukedchat Very true and the better you know the chn the

less likely this will happen #ukedchat

Mad_teach 20:19

@mattharding007 @ukedchat #ukedchat this has led to some of my best

lessons! But took me a long time to have the confidence to do.

rapclassroom 20:19 @ukedchat ok that's clearer to me! Thanks #ukedchat

EmathsUK 20:20

@ukedchat Indeed. The profession systematically and utterly

deprofessinalised in last 15 years. Scary how young teachers needspoonfeeding

MrG_ICT 20:20

RT @jazziede: You need to be interested and motivated yourself to

motivate and keep the children engaged, planning for individuals

#ukedchat

Click_JoeRoy 20:20

@ukedchat #edtech and flashy screens have brought learning alive for

many pupils who would otherwise be disengaged #ukedchat is that so

bad?

urban_teacher 20:20

15% teachers % 85 students...Students taking more ownership over their

own work. Teachers becoming facilitators. #ukedchat

classroom4eu 20:20

RT @classroom4eu: http://t.co/2RMA4uTS looking for upper secondary

schools to participate in a multilateral Comenius project #ukedchat

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lauwailap1 20:20

@oldandrewuk Not sure. I think Philosophy4Children and understanding

your feelings is important. It just needs a lot of training #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:20

@MrsThorne When you're on a training course, do you enjoy being given

group work? Role Play? #ukedchat

GeorgeEBlack 20:20

#ukedchat what doesn't work is paying no attention to how the pupils

engage with e ry other aspects of their lives.

oldandrewuk 20:20

RT @Mad_teach: @oldandrewuk #ukedchat or just in a grp with ppl u

don't get along with. But then with friends working together there can be

too much chat!


@Mad_teach @ukedchat Me too. Takes confidence to ditch plans which

comes from experience - it's where some NQTs go wrong. #ukedchat

rapclassroom 20:20

RT @ukedchat: @rapclassroom Which teaching methods don't work for

pupils? #ukedchat

Mad_teach 20:21

@lauwailap1 @oldandrewuk #ukedchat do u use p4c? I'm trying to get to

grips!

ukedchat 20:21 @oldandrewuk Thanks for clarifying. Certainly helps to know #ukedchat

lauwailap1 20:21

RT @MrG_ICT: RT @jazziede: You need to be interested and motivated

yourself to motivate and keep the children engaged, planning for

individuals #ukedchat

lauwailap1 20:21

RT @mattharding007: @Mad_teach @ukedchat Me too. Takes

confidence to ditch plans which comes from experience - it's where some

NQTs go wrong. #ukedchat

JanP65 20:21

RT @JazzieDe: You need to be interested and motvted yourself in the

work to motvte and keep the children engaged planning for ind

#ukedchat

kanda_hh 20:21

RT @MrG_ICT: RT @jazziede: You need to be interested and motivated

yourself to motivate and keep the children engaged, planning for

individuals #ukedchat

LeighAlmey 20:21

#ukedchat depends what's meant by 'engaged'. If=don't understand or

not challenged,yes,you need to adapt your approach... #ukedchat

lauwailap1 20:21

RT @GeorgeEBlack: #ukedchat what doesn't work is paying no attention

to how the pupils engage with e ry other aspects of their lives.

lewis892 20:21

@MissJLud agreed let me know if you find any resources, we need to

improve reading ages to access the curriculum effectively #Ukedchat

Butterflycolour 20:21 @ukedchat #ukedchat How could it be otherwise!

JazzieDe 20:21

Technology has helped to make learning so much easier, more relevant

and instant but must be used well to motivate and engage! #ukedchat

teacherofy5 20:22

@syded06 @ukedchat @Butterflycolour you're right with not all

students, but can try and plan for students- if you know them well

#ukedchat

Butterflycolour 20:22@syded06 @ukedchat #ukedchat It is not the lesson (i.e. content) thatengages them but the process!

lewis892 20:22 @GeorgeEBlack completely agree!! #Ukedchat

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ukedchat 20:22

RT @EmathsUK: #ukedchat Indeed. The profession systematically and

utterly deprofessinalised in last 15 years...

syded06 20:22

I'm not sure why educators are resistant to the tools that are used by the

majority in everyday life? #ukedchat

oldandrewuk 20:22

@teacherofy5 #ukedchat And what is being learned needs to be pretty

concrete, not learning to "problem-solve" or "be creative" or "think".

NQTnewbie 20:23

The teacher has to be excited and this means not rehashing lessons over

and over wherever possible. Easier said than done maybe?! #ukedchat

teacherofy5 20:23

@syded06 @ukedchat @Butterflycolour but sometimes even knowing

them well, they might not be engaged the way you want them to be

#ukedchat

Mad_teach 20:23

#ukedchat kids seem a lot more eager to learn if there's a real reason for

them doing it.

oldandrewuk 20:23@lewis892 #ukedchat No. School is not there to provide therapy, it isthere for learning. Kids need their space. SEAL is torture for many.

nickotkdIV 20:23

RT @syded06: I'm not sure why educators are resistant to the tools that

are used by the majority in everyday life? #ukedchat

Kcsunshine73 20:23 @ukedchat should jolly well hope so!

ICT_Integrator 20:23



kanda_hh 20:23

I think P4C is great! >> RT @Mad_teach: @lauwailap1 @oldandrewuk

#ukedchat do u use p4c? I'm trying to get to grips!

LeighAlmey 20:23

...but not being wild with excitement about task/topic isn't reason to

change:need to persevere with 'boring' parts of learning. #ukedchat

NQTnewbie 20:24



oldandrewuk 20:24

@lewis892 #ukedchat The other problem with SEAL is it sets up teachers

as authorities on personal issues. We aren't; some of us are crazy.

Mad_teach 20:24

@kanda_hh @lauwailap1 @oldandrewuk #ukedchat what age grp r u? I

do year 1/2.

lewis892 20:24



JazzieDe 20:24

RT @Mad_teach: #ukedchat kids seem a lot more eager to learn if there's

a real reason for them doing it.

JanP65 20:24 @oldandrewuk SEAL? #ukedchat

MrsThorne 20:24

@ukedchat yes, both. I like working on my own, too. Variety's the key. I

think training to work in a variety of ways is important #ukedchat

rkieran 20:24

@oldandrewuk But if they all want to learn groupwork is brilliant.

Classroom climate blah blah blah #ukedchat

GeorgeEBlack 20:24Also, not having an achievable goal... Even with 6th form, something togain at the end of each lesson, drifting doesn't work. #ukedchat

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kanda_hh 20:24

@LeighAlmey Agree! They need to know the value of hard work etc too

#ukedchat

Bigkid4 20:24

@oldandrewuk @teacherofy5 #ukedchat I question whether problem

solving, creativity or thinking can be taught as distinct entities anyway...

Textilesteacher 20:24

@ukedchat "What specifically turns off students today to the most

common methods of teaching?" too much teacher talk

lewis892 20:24

@Click_JoeRoy definitely not! Give some students an iPod and all of a

sudden they enjoy learning with the correct apps #Ukedchat

JanP65 20:24

@syded06 I think that not all educators are comfortable using these tools

themselves #ukedchat

lewis892 20:25

@oldandrewuk #ukedchat some of the students have bad backgrounds

and school is a safe place where they want to talk about their feelings.

lauwailap1 20:25

RT @Butterflycolour: @syded06 @ukedchat #ukedchat It is not the lesson

(i.e. content) that engages them but the process!

Bigkid4 20:25

@oldandrewuk @lewis892 #ukedchat In my experience SEAL as a lesson

is a horrendous waste of time. Should not be on the curriculum

mrlockyer 20:25

@oldandrewuk While the debate rumbles on about learning styles, would

you agree that students are engaged by different stimuli? #ukedchat

EcophonUK 20:25

Acoustics in classrooms have a huge impact on teacher/student

relationships - where is this on the list of priorities? #ukedchat

JazzieDe 20:25 @Mad_teach Isn't this true of us all? #ukedchat

TAtoTeacher 20:25

RT @ukedchat: "A good teacher can tell when pupils are not engaged

with the learning, and adjust their teaching mid-way through a session"

True? #ukedchat

JanP65 20:25

RT @JazzieDe: RT @Mad_teach: #ukedchat kids seem a lot more eager to

learn if theres a real reason for them doing it. #ukedchat

lauwailap1 20:25

Lecturing disengages the majority. Varied tasks and mediums helps, but

the learning must be at the centre of all delivery #ukedchat

teacherofy5 20:25

RT @Bigkid4: @oldandrewuk @teacherofy5 #ukedchat I question

whether problem solving, creativity or thinking can be taught as distinct

entities anyway...

syded06 20:25

@JanP65 then shouldn't we learn just like we learnt to use IWB,

powerpoint etc etc? #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:26 @Butterflycolour @lauwailap1 @syded06 Very good point #ukedchat

bobdbob 20:26

@MrsThorne @ukedchat I agree. Variety has to be the key. Collaborative,

indiv, teacher led etc. The imp. thing has to be variety. #ukedchat

Gwenelope 20:26

@ukedchat @MrsThorne I think that depends on the task re. group

work/role play. Same must apply to pupils too? #ukedchat

lauwailap1 20:26If you can turn every learning experience into a game for primarystudents, then they'll never be disengaged! #ukedchat

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JanP65 20:26

@syded06 Oh I agree! There is no choice about using EdTech anymore

but some teachers need a lot more training than others! #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:26

Should teachers continue their own formal learning, to see life from a

student point-of-view? #ukedchat

oldandrewuk 20:26

@mattharding007 #ukedchat It's a pretty fair generalisation to say it's

frustrating to be ignored when you know the answer.

syded06 20:26

@teacherofy5 @ukedchat @butterflycolour and that is why a lesson plan

should be fluid - not always encouraged by observers #ukedchat

Mainy83 20:27

@ukedchat Primarily, teachers should continue their own learning

because they are education professionals.

ukedchat 20:27

RT @asante_man: #ukedchat I am pretty sure that is the outstanding

standard in the new ofsted framework

LeighAlmey 20:27

@ukedchat i'd love to, but time is an issue! needs to be supported by

school - given time off for exam leave, coursework etc.

oldandrewuk 20:27

@sheilascoular #ukedchat That's not good practice for learning, but if it

provides pace & routine kids are often comfortable with that.

kanda_hh 20:27 @Mad_teach @lauwailap1 @oldandrewuk Year 6 #ukedchat

Bigkid4 20:27

@oldandrewuk @lewis892 #ukedchat I have colleagues I wouldn't want

advising my child on personal issues. They're completely blooming nuts..

asante_man 20:27

@ukedchat I am pretty sure that is the outstanding standard in the new

ofsted framework

lewis892 20:27

@oldandrewuk absolutely but I feel as educators we should be teaching

real life skills, not just how to pass an exam #Ukedchat

ukedchat 20:28 @GeorgeEBlack Where there's a will.... #ukedchat

oldandrewuk 20:28

@Llamagretch #ukedchat We're not there to make kids happy. Schools

aren't orphanages for children with parents, they are for learning.

MrsThorne 20:28

@ukedchat yes, definitely. Any kind! I studied Geology GCSE alongside

pupils after school last year:massively improved my practice #ukedchat

Mad_teach 20:28

RT @lauwailap1: If you can turn every learning experience into a game for

primary students, then they'll never be disengaged! #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:28

RT @Mainy83: #ukedchat Primarily, teachers should continue their own

learning because they are education professionals.

JazzieDe 20:28

@Bigkid4 Seriously hope you are joking about SEAL. Agree lessons in

isolation not enough it all about whole school ethos! #ukedchat

GeorgeEBlack 20:28

@ukedchat #ukedchat if they can, but it's not so easy... Cost or time

restraints prohibitive.

teacherofy5 20:28

@syded06 @ukedchat @Butterflycolour that's why educators need to be

ready to make changes on the spot - thnk on your feet #edchat -reflect

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ukedchat 20:28

RT @LeighAlmey: #ukedchat i'd love to, but time is an issue! needs to be

supported by school - given time off for exam leave, coursework etc

ukedchat 20:29

@SteveThursby You won't regret it. A great (but tough) journey

#ukedchat

SteveThursby 20:29

@ukedchat I am a firm believer in doing so. NPQH and MA (Ed). Start prof

doc next month. #ukedchat

Jon_Torbitt 20:29

. @MichelleDhillon @ukedchat yep 'turns on' less likely to inspire mass

complaining! #ukedchat

syded06 20:30

@Jon_Torbitt so would you want the same lesson delivered year on year

for a topic? #ukedchat

nickotkdIV 20:30

RT @GeorgeEBlack: #ukedchat of course just because I haven't got time

for an MEd but I do get a lot of CPD from various sources

Jon_Torbitt 20:30

RT @lauwailap1: Lecturing disengages the majority. Varied tasks and

mediums helps, but the learning must be at the centre of all delivery

#ukedchat

danielharvey9 20:30 The premise needs to be flipped

GeorgeEBlack 20:30

#ukedchat of course just because I haven't got time for an MEd but I do

get a lot of CPD from various sources

oldandrewuk 20:30

@mattharding007 #ukedchat It's a completely negative topic. What you

actually mean is I've been negative about the wrong things.

Jon_Torbitt 20:30

. @syded06 safety in what you know is 1 reason why people resist

change. If it's worked in the past it should still work #ukedchat

Mad_teach 20:30

#ukedchat when introducing something totally new eg-doubling I try to

give lots of diff activities for them to choose. All same end point.

Jon_Torbitt 20:31

@JanP65 @jazziede @mad_teach a real reason and also a meaningful

context, eg 'you WILL use this in a job' #ukedchat partic in voc courses

oldandrewuk 20:31

@JamesTheo #ukedchat Then that's your problem right there. No teacher

should hold a student to account for how they *feel*.


Interestingly when learner Facebooked about meeting fave band via

@Rockhaq, he & all friends were engaged :P #ukedchat

nickotkdIV 20:31 #ukedchat do teachers need to be MEd qualified?

Bigkid4 20:31

@oldandrewuk @Llamagretch #ukedchat sadly you're mistaken. Schools

have become orphanages for children with parents in many cases

lewis892 20:31

@Bigkid4 @oldandrewuk I agree not all but some students need talk to.

Particularly when they dont have that person at home #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:31

What topic / teaching method /idea can you share where the pupils have

been 'turned on' to learning in your classroom teaching? #ukedchat

JazzieDe 20:31 @oldandrewuk So unhappy children learn? I think not! #ukedchat

Mad_teach 20:32

@ukedchat #ukedchat let them think it's their idea! Tell em a tiny bit, let

them ask to learn more.

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bobdbob 20:32

@ukedchat Giving key information from letters, death/birth certifs etc in

The Woman in Black - investigation to find out identity of The WiB

Jon_Torbitt 20:32

. @oldandrewuk @llamagretch sadly a lot of schools end up takin up the

slack as the only constant in many kids' lives #ukedchat

GeorgeEBlack 20:32#ukedchat and as a Media teacher I am constantly learning new kit andsoftware... Often the kids teach me!

ukedchat 20:32

@GeorgeEBlack The last government were going towards MEd for

teachers, whereas this government doesn't require teaching qual

#ukedchat

oldandrewuk 20:32 @ukedchat #ukedchat Giving explicit direction that will result in learning.


RT @Jon_Torbitt: . @MichelleDhillon @ukedchat yep 'turns on' less likely

to inspire mass complaining! #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:33

@oldandrewuk For example? Looking for specific examples ;-) #ukedchat

Sharing wisdom / ideas.

JanP65 20:33

@GeorgeEBlack I like that they are 'teaching' you! So empowering.

Teachers don't have appear experts on everything, not realistic #ukedchat

Jon_Torbitt 20:33

@MichelleDhillon I am unless #ukedchat turns into a repeat of last week's

session!

Bigkid4 20:33

@syded06 #ukedchat The majority using something in everyday life

doesn't make it the best way to do something...

teacherofy5 20:33

yummy! stuffed marrow whilst #ukedchat - stuff children with 'delicious'

activities [;) ] http://t.co/7Nliez2H

effdebate 20:33

RT @oldandrewuk: @ukedchat #ukedchat Giving explicit direction that

will result in learning.

MissAPatterson 20:33

RT @ukedchat: RT @Mainy83: #ukedchat Primarily, teachers should

continue their own learning because they are education professionals.

GeorgeEBlack 20:33

@ukedchat #ukedchat blogging, blogging, blogging and using a video

camera!

ukedchat 20:33

@nickotkdIV It shows commitement and further professionalises?

#ukedchat

Bigkid4 20:33

@syded06 #ukedchat Why should educators change their successful

practices because of the disapproval of some?

JazzieDe 20:33@Bigkid4@oldandrew@Llamagretch #ukedchat And so must meet theneeds of the children!

lewis892 20:34

#ukedchat lessons involving hands on, iPads, iPods where they have to

investigate and scan #qrs

Mad_teach 20:34

@JanP65 @georgeeblack #ukedchat and good for them to c u make

mistakes.

brynll 20:34

Great insight into @XLR8camps by @HannahEnnis http://t.co/hKvmNpPt

Some outstanding practice for Y6/7 #ukedchat

karen_macg 20:34@nickotkdIV: #ukedchat do teachers need to be MEd qualified? Idon't think so - B.Ed or PGDE to start. Experience then high level CPD?

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ukedchat 20:34

RT @bobdbob: #ukedchat Giving key information from letters,

death/birth certifs etc in The Woman in Black - investigation to find out...

MissJLud 20:34

@GeorgeEBlack @ukedchat I would love to do another MA or pHd but

how can you do that and all of this?! If only!

oldandrewuk 20:34@lauwailap1 #ukedchat I think kids would understand their feelingsbetter if they concentrated on learning to read, write and behave.

syded06 20:34

@Bigkid4 it doesn't replace it just adds value. People with blackboards

were successful #ukedchat

IDrumly 20:34

RT @tomhenzley: I finished my draft ICT curriculum todoay, would be

really interested in your views to help develop it http://t.co/RtNKBlQi

#ukedchat

Jon_Torbitt 20:34 RT @danielharvey9: The premise needs to be flipped

effdebate 20:34

RT @ukedchat: What topic / teaching method /idea can you share where

the pupils have been 'turned on' to learning in your classroom teaching?

#ukedchat

JazzieDe 20:34

RT @GeorgeEBlack: @ukedchat #ukedchat blogging, blogging, blogging

and using a video camera!

ukedchat 20:35 RT @nickotkdIV: #ukedchat i will hopefully be doing one in 2013-14.

Jon_Torbitt 20:35

@nickotkdIV: #ukedchat do teachers need to be MEd qualified?

no

Llamagretch 20:35

@oldandrewuk et al #ukedchat I am happy to deal with home stuff, can't

but help do so, but that isn't best done with timetabled lessons

mrlockyer 20:35

@GeorgeEBlack Make time - it is possible, I promise! More importantly,,

what you learn about learning is valuable! #ukedchat

JanP65 20:35 @Mad_teach Totally! #ukedchat

GeorgeEBlack 20:35 @syded06 @bigkid4 agree, if I need to chalk and talk I do... #ukedchat

esoldaveglasgow 20:35 RT @danielharvey9: The premise needs to be flipped

Jon_Torbitt 20:35

@syded06 not necessarily - it's always worth researching student voice.

I'm quite blunt - I front up and ask mine what they think! #ukedchat

nickotkdIV 20:35 @ukedchat i will hopefully be doing one in 2013-14.

TriZachTri 20:36

RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat ..."requires effort to pay attention to" or"requires concentration". Not all of these are bad things. Learning's not

constant fun

Kcsunshine73 20:36

@ukedchat always try to address vark. I know some find it old hat now,

but great touchstone. #ukedchat

GeorgeEBlack 20:36

@mrlockyer well I will try... I want to do the MEd in Media education

from Bournemouth.., one day #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:36

RT @karen_macg: @nickotkdIV #ukedchat I agree with commitment and

professional knowledge and understanding - deeper learning.

syded06 20:36@Bigkid4 we are preparing them for life as well as for exams. Ignoringedtech doesn't help them. #ukedchat

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JanP65 20:36

@lewis892 Great if your classroom is resourced with them. Looks of

inequality with tech bt schools! #ukedchat

karen_macg 20:36

@nickotkdIV @ukedchat I agree with commitment and professional

knowledge and understanding - deeper learning.

oldandrewuk 20:36

@lauwailap1 When it comes to feelings, self-control more valuable than

self-expression. Don't get me started on pseudo-philosophy #ukedchat

Gwenelope 20:37

@MissJLud @GeorgeEBlack @ukedchat My thoughts exactly. Did my

Modern Eng Lit MA 10yrs ago, before teaching. How to find the time for

MEd?

Jon_Torbitt 20:37

. @ukedchat @nickotkdiv What about technical or CPD courses? I can as

an IT teacher become apple / google certified without a MEd #ukedchat

oldandrewuk 20:37

@kanda_hh @Mad_teach @lauwailap1 #ukedchat You can't teach

philosophy to children. They don't know enough Greek.

nickotkdIV 20:37RT @karen_macg: @nickotkdIV @ukedchat I agree with commitment andprofessional knowledge and understanding - deeper learning.

stephenheppell 20:37

@ukedchat let's hope a good minister can adjust the curriculum in the

same way lol

Bigkid4 20:37

@syded06 #ukedchat Many use their IWB in the same way they would

use a blackboard. Many use it in a way that distracts from learning...

Kcsunshine73 20:37

@ukedchat and simply, start with confidence in them and ask for theirs in

you. Works wonders. #ukedchat

lewis892 20:37

@JanP65 we know we are lucky and fortunately so do the students, a

good part of the money left from BSF, although no rebuild #Ukedchat

TriZachTri 20:37

RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat Also, not all students are "turned off" by

the same thing. A lot are turned off by effort or learning. That's *their*

problem.

GeorgeEBlack 20:37

@syded06: @Bigkid4 we are preparing them for life as well as for

exams. Ignoring edtech doesn't help them. #ukedchat agree

oldandrewuk 20:37

@Mad_teach @lauwailap1 #ukedchat From what I've seen of it, it is a

bunch of hippies lying to children about what philosophy is. Avoid!

Kcsunshine73 20:38#ukedchat @ukedchat publisher is a fun itc tool for producing 3-foldleaflets on pretty much anything - Visual, Written, Practical.

syded06 20:38

@Bigkid4 then it isn't being used to enhance learning. A tool is only as

good as the educator who uses it #ukedchat

MiniDiscsReturn 20:38

@JazzieDe @oldandrewuk Of course they can. Fractions were very boring

for me but I learnt how to do them. Edutainment is damaging. #ukedchat

nickotkdIV 20:38

@Jon_Torbitt @ukedchat with the movements in education i would say

you hit the nail on the head!

Bigkid4 20:38

@syded06 #ukedchat ... change, particularly technological change doesn't

always add value. I would say it often doesn't

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JazzieDe 20:38

Do qualifications make you better at teaching, make it easier for children

to learn. You can either teach effectively or not ! #ukedchat

JanP65 20:38 @TriZachTri Is it their problem? #ukedchat

syded06 20:38

@Jon_Torbitt Our student voice feedback on the use of Edtech in the

classroom was overwhelmingly in favour. We couldn't ignore it #ukedchatoldandrewuk 20:38 @Bigkid4 @teacherofy5 #ukedchat That's my point.

danielharvey9 20:38

RT @Jon_Torbitt: @MichelleDhillon I am unless #ukedchat turns into a

repeat of last week's session!

MrsThorne 20:39

I think students dislike inconsistency/bored teachers. They seem to like

high expectations &support, so they can take some chances #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:39

RT @Kcsunshine73: #ukedchat publisher is a fun itc tool for producing 3-

fold leaflets on pretty much anything - Visual, Written, Practical.

MissJLud 20:39

@Gwenelope @georgeeblack @ukedchat i want to do this but still don't

have time even though mostly online! http://t.co/hRq9l6ic

kanda_hh 20:39

@JazzieDe Do you mean qualifications generally or post-grad level

qualifications? #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:39

RT @nickotkdIV: @Jon_Torbitt #ukedchat with the movements in

education i would say you hit the nail on the head!

GeorgeEBlack 20:39

RT @Gwenelope: @ukedchat Showing pupils the 'Goodreads' site, they

now tell me of websites they use to write e.g. wattpad. Two way traffic!

#ukedchat

Bigkid4 20:39

@syded06 #ukedchat using it for no good reason or inappropriately

doesn't help them either... Technology for the sake of it...

nickotkdIV 20:39

RT @ukedchat: @nickotkdIV It shows commitement and further

professionalises? #ukedchat


@Jon_Torbitt Partly but point is hooking social media INto learning.

Encouraged to share work on Facebook etc #ukedchat

oldandrewuk 20:39

@rkieran #ukedchat Still a distraction. If you want to learn you'd still

rather hear it from an expert than a novice.

Gwenelope 20:39

@ukedchat Showing pupils the 'Goodreads' site, they now tell me of

websites they use to write e.g. wattpad. Two way traffic! #ukedchat

oldandrewuk 20:40

@mrlockyer #ukedchat There is no "debate" about learning styles. Like

evolution, the truth is known and can be affirmed or denied.

JanP65 20:40

@Bigkid4 If they don't know how to use a comp having an IWB will just be

a blackboard #ukedchat


#ukedchat If we expect learners to 'change' their knowledge, skill,

attitude or behaviour, we, as educators, must develop/change ourselves.

ukedchat 20:40

RT @MissJLud: @Gwenelope @georgeeblack #ukedchat i want to do this

but still don't have time even though mostly online!http://t.co/moyhn2Aw

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DrDav 20:40 @oldandrewuk @lauwailap1 Oh go on. You know you want to! #ukedchat

syded06 20:40

@Bigkid4 perhaps we don't need to do any training after our initial

teacher year? :) #ukedchat

syded06 20:41

@Bigkid4 are you saying we should teach the same lesson for 35 years?

#ukedchat

JazzieDe 20:41

@kanda-hh A bit of both, Some teachers very well educated but would

send me to sleep others without quals have a special talent! #ukedchat

ulrikajonson 20:41

RT @esoldaveglasgow: #ukedchat If we expect learners to 'change' their

knowledge, skill, attitude or behaviour, we, as educators, must

develop/change ourselves.

ukedchat 20:41




SusanGodsland 20:41

RT @oldandrewuk: @mrlockyer #ukedchat There is no "debate" about

learning styles. Like evolution, the truth is known and can be affirmed ordenied.

KateBoot 20:41

@ukedchat #teachingmethod depended on the group, low ability - a

variety of tasks, sharing their learning, kept busy, +ve feedback

mrhand87 20:41

@JazzieDe doing an MEd at the moment, certainly makes you think more

about what/how you do what you do #ukedchat

teacherofy5 20:41

educators need to identify the learning potential of each child and

develop it further - know your children in depth #ukedchat

Mad_teach 20:41 @MrsThorne #ukedchat and feeling safe enough to take a chance.

Bigkid4 20:41

@syded06 #ukedchat What's the point of someone who has a method

that is successful changing to one they don't want? Unlikely to improve

much

GeorgeEBlack 20:41

RT @MrsThorne: I think students dislike inconsistency/bored teachers.

They seem to like high expectations &support, so they can take some

chances #ukedchat

Mad_teach 20:42

#ukedchat I love how ppl all slate teachers and our long hols but here we

all r on a Thursday evening in middle of summer!

LGolton 20:42

@Gwenelope @missjlud @georgeeblack @ukedchat currently doing EdD

having done another BSc, and MEd... All while working FT and self

financed.

nickotkdIV 20:42

RT @Jon_Torbitt: . @ukedchat @nickotkdiv What about technical or CPD

courses? I can as an IT teacher become apple / google certified without a

MEd #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:42

RT @KateBoot: #ukedchat #teachingmethod depended on the group, low

ability - a variety of tasks, sharing their learning, kept busy, +ve f\bk

nickotkdIV 20:42

RT @ukedchat: RT @nickotkdIV: @Jon_Torbitt #ukedchat with the

movements in education i would say you hit the nail on the head!

Bigkid4 20:42

@JanP65 #ukedchat Sometimes those that know how to use a comp still

use it that way. Surely up to teacher to use in the way that suits them

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oldandrewuk 20:42

@mrlockyer #ukedchat Don't use the word "engage"

http://t.co/RomuSq4q Do you mean are students entertained by different

things?


RT @MrsThorne: I think students dislike inconsistency/bored teachers.

They seem to like high expectations &support, so they can take some

chances #ukedchat

Gwenelope 20:43@ukedchat @MissJLud @georgeeblack Would love to do ShakespeareMA, costs v. prohibitive. #ukedchat

MissJLud 20:43

@LGolton @gwenelope @georgeeblack @ukedchat oh well I just feel lazy

then!Feel like it would take my time away from doing more at work?

oldandrewuk 20:43

RT @Bigkid4: @oldandrewuk @lewis892 #ukedchat In my experience

SEAL as a lesson is a horrendous waste of time. Should not be on the

curriculum

kanda_hh 20:43

@JazzieDe Yes, I agree, but disagree with #Tories saying no QTS needed

#ukedchat

lewis892 20:43

RT @Mad_teach: #ukedchat I love how ppl all slate teachers and our long

hols but here we all r on a Thursday evening in middle of summer!

ukedchat 20:43 Surely pupils learn best when they are happy. #ukedchat

oldandrewuk 20:43

@mrlockyer Perhaps you mean "do kids pay attention to different

things?" Or "do kids work at different things?" #ukedchat

Bigkid4 20:43

@syded06 #ukedchat In the unlikely event that everything you do is

massively successful with every type of child in existence...

wennil94 20:43




Mad_teach 20:43

RT @teacherofy5: educators need to identify the learning potential of

each child and develop it further - know your children in depth #ukedchat

urban_teacher 20:44

#ukedchat If we expect learners to 'change' their knowledge, skill,

attitude or behaviour, we, as educators, must develop/change ourselves.

Bigkid4 20:44

@syded06 #ukedchat Do you teach identical classes every year? If not

then the answer is pretty obvious isn't it?...

oldandrewuk 20:44

@lewis892 #ukedchat Provide professional counselling. Don't turn

teachers into amateur therapists.

KDWScience 20:44

@LGolton @gwenelope @missjlud @georgeeblack @ukedchat always

knew u were superwoman! Amazing

teacherofy5 20:44 @ukedchat pupils learn also best if they can trust their teacher #ukedchat

JanP65 20:44

@Bigkid4 Depends what you mean by 'suits them'. Using a comp to check

your email once a week is not enough anymore! #ukedchat

urban_teacher 20:44

educators need to identify the learning potential of each child and

develop it further - know your children in depth #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:44 @Mad_teach :-D #ukedchat Great CPD

urban_teacher 20:44 RT @ukedchat: Surely pupils learn best when they are happy. #ukedchat

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DrDav 20:44

Yup, they don't exist as a stable construct. MT @oldandrewuk:

@mrlockyer #ukedchat There is no "debate" about learning styles.

Jon_Torbitt 20:45

. @nickotkdIV @ukedchat This might start to apply for other subjects,

only so much theory you can teach? #ukedchat

oldandrewuk 20:45@lewis892 #ukedchat How are we qualified to do that? Does anyone whoisn't a teacher think "teachers are good at real-life situations"?

KDWScience 20:45

@lgolton @gwenelope @missjlud @georgeeblack @ukedchat Can't even

contemplate it at mo as feel overwhelmed with what I already have to do

JazzieDe 20:45

RT @kanda_hh: @JazzieDe Yes, I agree, but disagree with #Tories saying

no QTS needed #ukedchat

Gwenelope 20:45

@LGolton @missjlud @georgeeblack @ukedchat I take my metaphorical

hat to you. Impressive!

ukedchat 20:45@urban_teacher Is this easier for primary teachers rather than secondaryteachers who have so many pupils going through #ukedchat


RT @Mad_teach: @MrsThorne #ukedchat and feeling safe enough to take

a chance.

Mainy83 20:45

@ukedchat What is the modern obsession with happiness? As a young

person and an adult I've achieved a lot through times of "un-happiness"!

JanP65 20:45 @teacherofy5 and respect them... #ukedchat

nickotkdIV 20:45

@ukedchat @urban_teacher true. teachers also teach when they are

enjoying it!


@ukedchat Yes & pupils learn best when they are fully supported imo

#ukedchat

GeorgeEBlack 20:45

@teacherofy5: @ukedchat pupils learn also best if they can trust

their teacher #ukedchat agree

LeighAlmey 20:45

#ukedchat @Mad_teach On P4C: the 'fun' bit (Qing & hypothesising)

MUST be followed by rigorous evaluation. Pointless without it.

JazzieDe 20:45

@mrhand87 Yes sure it does, just commenting on what I have

experienced, think CPD is necc but doesn't always have desired result

#ukedchat

ukedchat 20:45 Final 15 minutes of #ukedchat for this week...

TaffTykeC 20:46@ukedchat Surely all teaching should cater for individual needs of thechildren not what the teacher wants? #ukedchat

nmckain 20:46

@ukedchat: Should teachers continue their own formal learning, to

see life from a student point-of-view? #ukedchat YES... from SLT to

NQT

Bigkid4 20:46

@JanP65 #ukedchat debatable. Whether or not a teacher uses a

computer or not is way down my priority list when judging quality of

teaching

ukedchat 20:46 @teacherofy5 Excellent. Trust,respect, happy. #ukedchat

Jon_Torbitt 20:46


knowledge, skill, attitude or behaviour, we, as educators, mustdevelop/change ourselves.

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syded06 20:46

@Bigkid4 ok so in order to adapt to students we should learn how to

implement edtech to further their learning then? #ukedchat

oldandrewuk 20:46

RT @Bigkid4: @oldandrewuk @lewis892 #ukedchat I have colleagues I

wouldn't want advising my child on personal issues. They're completely

blooming nuts..

teacherofy5 20:46 RT @JanP65: @teacherofy5 and respect them... #ukedchat

oldandrewuk 20:47 @mrlockyer @Mainy83 #ukedchat They're the ones avoiding the debate.

Bigkid4 20:47

@syded06 #ukedchat don't see the relevance of edtech. Know your

classes, change your lessons to suit them. Might involve edtech, might

not

Jon_Torbitt 20:47

.@oldandrewuk @lewis892 at the risk of a lynching - totally depends on

the individual and their experiences / objectivity #ukedchat

teacherofy5 20:47

RT @GeorgeEBlack: @teacherofy5: @ukedchat pupils learn also best

if they can trust their teacher #ukedchat agree

nickotkdIV 20:47

RT @ukedchat: RT @nickotkdIV: #ukedchat @urban_teacher true.

teachers also teach when they are enjoying it!

ukedchat 20:47

RT @Gwenelope: @LGolton @missjlud @georgeeblack #ukedchat I take

my metaphorical hat to you. Impressive!

JanP65 20:47

@Bigkid4 Do you think it is acceptable for a teacher to refuse to use

edtech in their class? #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:47

RT @nickotkdIV: #ukedchat @urban_teacher true. teachers also teach

when they are enjoying it!

mrhand87 20:47 @JazzieDe most definitely! #ukedchat

teacherofy5 20:47

@ukedchat can a teacher-who is absent every now and then[for nothing]-

be trusted? #ukedchat - no - in my opinion

oldandrewuk 20:47

@mattharding007 #ukedchat With hands up you can at least

acknowledge that lots of students had their hands up and apparently

knew the answer

syded06 20:47

@Bigkid4 I'm not sure how you can adapt without changing your existing

method or am I missing something? #ukedchat

oldandrewuk 20:48

@Mad_teach @Llamagretch #ukedchat As a classroom teacher dealing

with 30 kids? Not going to happen.

LeighAlmey 20:48

@ukedchat My PGCE tutor used to say 'spitting makes some kids happy,

but that's no reason to add it to my SoW' ;-)

ryansecondarysc 20:48@nmckain teachers should continually enhance knowledge, not to seestudent pov, but to become better educators #ukedchat

syded06 20:48

@Bigkid4 which is my point. If teachers don't learn how to use edtech

then how can they make an informed decision about it? #ukedchat

LGolton 20:48

@KDWScience @gwenelope @missjlud @georgeeblack @ukedchat I

carried on because I love learning. It helped to improve my teaching as

well...

JamesTwigg21 20:48




mrhand87 20:48

@TaffTykeC @ukedchat but do the children know what their needs are...?

#ukedchat

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MissJLud 20:48

RT @syded06: @Bigkid4 then it isn't being used to enhance learning. A

tool is only as good as the educator who uses it #ukedchat

plestered 20:48

@ukedchat #ukedchat ..ok everyone, turn to p43 & do questions 1-10...

Still quite common in private schools I hear.

Mainy83 20:48@mrlockyer Every time you say B*ain G*m a unicorn dies. (Try rotatingit's legs, it might stimulate it's respiratory-brain-bit). #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:48

RT @KDWScience: #ukedchat Can't even contemplate it at mo as feel

overwhelmed with what I already have to do

LGolton 20:48


started it to prove I could learn having almost failed at Uni due to

dyslexia...

Jon_Torbitt 20:49

@nmckain @ukedchat yes even more important that SLT don't just do

management or 'leadership' courses - must stay grounded #ukedchat

DrDav 20:49

@JanP65 @Bigkid4 If they can achieve the outcomes of the lesson

without edtech then no reason why they should have to use it. #ukedchat

TaffTykeC 20:49 @ukedchat @nickotkdiv @urban_teacher Very true #ukedchat

ryansecondarysc 20:49

An educator that claims a tool is a magic bullet is as bad as one who

dismisses something kne #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:49

RT @LeighAlmey: #ukedchat My PGCE tutor used to say 'spitting makes

some kids happy, but that's no reason to add it to my SoW' ;-)

oldandrewuk 20:49

@JazzieDe #ukedchat Then you think wrongly. Substantial body of

evidence to suggest that we learn best when a bit down.

GeorgeEBlack 20:49

@syded06: @Bigkid4 then it isn't being used to enhance learning. A

tool is only as good as the educator who uses it #ukedchat agree!

plestered 20:49

@ukedchat #ukedchat ..asking my 2 primary- aged daughters- if the

teacher is 'grumpy' & shouts a lot

Gwenelope 20:49

@plestered @ukedchat Don' tell that to Gove. Private schools are better

remember? #ukedchat

kanda_hh 20:49 @plestered #ukedchat But #Gove thinks thats the way forward! ;-) #fool

ukedchat 20:49

RT @LGolton: #ukedchat I carried on because I love learning. It helped to

improve my teaching as well...

bobdbob 20:49

@oldandrewuk @mattharding007 #ukedchat I use hands up sometimes

for pupils to SHOW they know the answer. Then hands go down before an

answer

Bigkid4 20:49

@syded06 #ukedchat Your initial premise was about using tools majority

use in every day life... I never said I would not change my lessons..

Gwenelope 20:49

@teacherofy5 @ukedchat Colleagues will not trust the frequent absentee

teacher either. Have one of those in my dept. #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:50RT @Gwenelope: @LGolton @KDWScience @missjlud @georgeeblack#ukedchat You certainly have, and then some!

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KDWScience 20:50

@Gwenelope @lgolton @missjlud @georgeeblack @ukedchat seconded

especially supporting others as well. Thank you


RT @plestered: @ukedchat #ukedchat ..asking my 2 primary- aged

daughters- if the teacher is 'grumpy' & shouts a lot

oldandrewuk 20:50

@JazzieDe #ukedchat Obviously not when traumatised, but even when

depressed. Theory is that's why we evolved to be prone to depression.


An educator that claims a tool is a magic bullet is as bad as an educator

that dismisses something new without good reason #ukedchat

teacherofy5 20:50

RT @Jon_Torbitt: @teacherofy5: @ukedchat pupils learn also best if

they can trust their teacher #ukedchat very true - makes a massive

difference

nickotkdIV 20:50 @TaffTykeC @ukedchat @urban_teacher indeeed.

Jon_Torbitt 20:50

@teacherofy5: @ukedchat pupils learn also best if they can trust

their teacher #ukedchat very true - makes a massive difference

Bigkid4 20:50

RT @DrDav: @JanP65 @Bigkid4 If they can achieve the outcomes of the

lesson without edtech then no reason why they should have to use it.

#ukedchat

rkieran 20:50

@Mainy83 @oldandrewuk Individual, whole class and group work all has

a valid place. Ask anyone who teaches EYFS! #ukedchat

MissJLud 20:50

@ukedchat teaching class themselves in groups on specific subject after

research&advice.From yr7-10 they loved it & learnt loads! #ukedchat

Gwenelope 20:50

@LGolton @KDWScience @missjlud @georgeeblack @ukedchat You

certainly have, and then some!

Bigkid4 20:50

@syded06 #ukedchat to suit the changing abilities and personalities of my

students. I see no reason to change a successful method...

gingamusings 20:50

@esoldaveglasgow: #ukedchat If we "expect learners to 'change'... we, as

educators, must develop/change ourselves. AMEN

nmckain 20:50 @ryansecondarysc I'd say both are essential outcomes #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:51RT @KDWScience: @Gwenelope @lgolton @missjlud @georgeeblack#ukedchat seconded especially supporting others as well. Thank you

ukedchat 20:51 RT @nickotkdIV: @TaffTykeC #ukedchat @urban_teacher indeeed.

Bigkid4 20:51

@syded06 #ukedchat they don't NEED to make informed decision about

it. They need to teach well.

oldandrewuk 20:51

RT @Bigkid4: @oldandrewuk @Llamagretch #ukedchat sadly you're

mistaken. Schools have become orphanages for children with parents in

many cases

Jon_Torbitt 20:51@JanP65: @Bigkid4 Do you think it is acceptable for a teacher torefuse to use edtech in their class? #ukedchat yes, if it's box ticking

teacherofy5 20:51 @Gwenelope @ukedchat agree, feel the same #ukedchat

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Kcsunshine73 20:51

@ukedchat best piece of PGCE advice c1994 was 'always leave a child

with his/her dignity' #bestlesson #mantra

LGolton 20:51


picked up a boyfriend on the way who enables my learning addiction.

syded06 20:52 @Bigkid4 does teaching well therefore mean no edtech? #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:52

RT @Gwenelope: @LGolton @KDWScience @missjlud @georgeeblack

#ukedchat Very fortunate!

oldandrewuk 20:52

RT @MiniDiscsReturn: @JazzieDe @oldandrewuk Of course they can.

Fractions were very boring for me but I learnt how to do them.

Edutainment is damaging. #ukedchat

gingamusings 20:52

#ukedchat @ukedchat my learners were most involved when they led

THEIR learning & followed on fRom THEIR qs. After all it is theirs not ours

oldandrewuk 20:52

RT @Llamagretch: @oldandrewuk et al #ukedchat I am happy to deal

with home stuff, can't but help do so, but that isn't best done withtimetabled lessons

Bigkid4 20:52

@JanP65 #ukedchat Don't know anyone that refuses because don't know

any managers silly enough to direct someone to use it.

GeorgeEBlack 20:52

@LGolton @kdwscience @gwenelope @missjlud @ukedchat it all sounds

so good!

teacherofy5 20:52

@ukedchat 'Meaningful relationships that have fundamental pedagogic

structures and essences related to each other..' - W A Landman


#ukedchat I have enjoyed the chat tonight, but children not sleeping.

Night night, all. Where is the summary published?

oldandrewuk 20:52

@ukedchat #ukedchat Direct instruction. Feedback. Making them work

hard. Testing. Those are the things that work.

JanP65 20:52

@DrDav So depends on the lesson. A whole year teaching lessons without

any 'tools' learners are using today, would that be right? #ukedchat

Gwenelope 20:52

@LGolton @KDWScience @missjlud @georgeeblack @ukedchat Very

fortunate!

ukedchat 20:52

RT @LGolton: @KDWScience @gwenelope @missjlud @georgeeblack

#ukedchat I picked up a boyfriend on the way who enables my learning

addiction.

urban_teacher 20:52

#ukedchat sometimes its not what teach them that really matters its how

you make them feel!

TaffTykeC 20:52

@PeterSpencer88 @philallman1 @nuttya10 This made me laugh...can't

do right for doing wrong #ukedchat

lewis892 20:52

@oldandrewuk Absolutely I do, you dont need a qualification. Life is

a lesson that students want to know about #ukedchat

syded06 20:52

@Bigkid4 agreed although I'm responding to the fact that if edtech isn't

used then we are not preparing them for later life #ukedchat

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oldandrewuk 20:53

@DrDav @lauwailap1 #ukedchat Okay. Heard P4C types saying in

philosophy there are no wrong answers. That all opinions should be

respected.

Bigkid4 20:53

@syded06 #ukedchat some of my pupils are highly unlikely to have jobs

much less jobs requiring computer knowledge so not sure I agree...

Mad_teach 20:53@oldandrewuk @ukedchat measuring a child everyday won't make emgrow!

ukedchat 20:53 @esoldaveglasgow It will be at http://t.co/vG5ode2Q #ukedchat

Jon_Torbitt 20:53

.@syded06 @bigkid4 don't need to necessarily use tech to be an artist or

a writer? What is 'edtech' specifically? #ukedchat

Jon_Torbitt 20:53

.@syded06 @bigkid4 don't need to necessarily use tech to be an artist or

a writer? What is 'edtech' specifically? #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:53

RT @teacherofy5: #ukedchat 'Meaningful relationships that have

fundamental pedagogic structures and essences related to each other..'

kanda_hh 20:53 @urban_teacher I love that idea! Agree! #ukedchat

TaffTykeC 20:54

@mrhand87 @ukedchat Think some do...possibly if they are older or

whole school approach? #ukedchat

Gwenelope 20:54

@ukedchat What about the merits of learning something non-academic?

Am learning to sail soon, but still a learner. #ukedchat

GeorgeEBlack 20:54 That's it #ukedchat off to watch Bolt do his thing! Thanks for the chat! Xx

JanP65 20:54

@Bigkid4 I have come across educators that refuse to use any. Don't

believe tech has a place in the classroom. #ukedchat


@Bigkid4 @syded06 justified use of any tool shouldn't be a way of

invalidating a teacher. #ukedchat

oldandrewuk 20:54

RT @DrDav: Yup, they don't exist as a stable construct. MT

@oldandrewuk: @mrlockyer #ukedchat There is no "debate" about

learning styles.

ukedchat 20:54 @oldandrewuk Formative or summative testing? #ukedchat

oldandrewuk 20:54 @rkieran #ukedchat Not really.

mbrayford 20:55

RT @ukedchat: RT @Mad_teach: @oldandrewuk #ukedchat measuring a

child everyday won't make em grow! I agree

LGolton 20:55

@KDWScience @gwenelope @missjlud @georgeeblack @ukedchat don't

do it unless you feel you can. I have no kids and that has been a major

thing

kanda_hh 20:55 Thanks @ukedchat #Olympics time! #ukedchat

oldandrewuk 20:55

@TaffTykeC @mrlockyer That is obviously the case. But the difference is

not "learning style". #ukedchat

Jon_Torbitt 20:55

@oldandrewuk @drdav @lauwailap1 I heard that in Philosophy101 at Uni

and left when we had to argue over what was a table! Farcical #ukedchat

JanP65 20:55 @GeorgeEBlack Me too! #ukedchat

nickotkdIV 20:55

RT @ukedchat: RT @Mad_teach: @oldandrewuk #ukedchat measuring a

child everyday won't make em grow!

syded06 20:55@Bigkid4 @ukedchat great chat and always keen to hear more opinions.Thanks for hosting. Must dash - there is a race on #ukedchat

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ukedchat 20:55

RT @Mad_teach: @oldandrewuk #ukedchat measuring a child everyday

won't make em grow!

Bigkid4 20:55

@syded06 #ukedchat You can teach well without using edtech. I would

encourage someone to continue doing so if it suits them best

oldandrewuk 20:56@mrlockyer I gave you three different possible questions you could havebeen asking when you used the word "engaged".It's unclear. #ukedchat

DrDav 20:56

@JanP65 Would those be the tools of reading, writing and learning stuff?

#ukedchat


@JanP65 @Bigkid4 Me too. Some educators simply 'do not want to' use

edtech #ukedchat

KDWScience 20:56

@LGolton @gwenelope @missjlud @georgeeblack @ukedchat agree they

eat into working time no matter how old they r but wouldn't change it

Bigkid4 20:56

@JanP65 #ukedchat Doesn't matter if they teach well. My teachers didn't

use any yet somehow I managed to learn...

LGolton 20:56

@GeorgeEBlack @kdwscience @gwenelope @missjlud @ukedchat it is

until the deadline looms... And you have no plan #dyslexicmoments

MissBex_M 20:56

RT @GeorgeEBlack: @ukedchat #ukedchat if they can, but it's not so

easy... Cost or time restraints prohibitive.

ukedchat 20:56

RT @LGolton: #ukedchat don't do it unless you feel you can. I have no

kids and that has been a major thing

oldandrewuk 20:57

@Jon_Torbitt @lewis892 #ukedchat SEAL was never optional. It was

never only to be taught by teachers with that expertise.

ukedchat 20:57 #ukedchat PAUSED 200m final!

Bigkid4 20:57

@MichelleDhillon @JanP65 #ukedchat I don't see that as a problem

provided they are good teachers.

teacherofy5 20:57 respect and trust must be mutual #ukedchat

MissJLud 20:57

@KDWScience @lgolton @gwenelope @georgeeblack @ukedchat think

I'd rather have kids than more letters after my name!

ukedchat 20:57

RT @KDWScience: #ukedchat agree they eat into working time no matter

how old they r but wouldn't change it

oldandrewuk 20:58

@Jon_Torbitt @lewis892 #ukedchat Even I was made to teach it, and the

kids could tell I didn't buy it: http://t.co/dBrxmiY1

Mad_teach 20:58 #ukedchat night all!ukedchat 20:58 There we go. That's the 200m done...last moments of #ukedchat

teacherofy5 20:58 RT @ukedchat: #ukedchat PAUSED 200m final!

Kcsunshine73 20:58 @ukedchat me too!

mrhand87 20:58

@Bigkid4 @syded06 but is it about teacher's ability to teach or teaching

of kids to be able to interact with unkown future tech #ukedchat

oldandrewuk 20:59

@bobdbob @mattharding007 #ukedchat That's good. I sometimes use:

"hands up if you don't know the answer".

Jon_Torbitt 20:59

@oldandrewuk @lewis892 never taught it myself but have tons of life

'experience' whatever that is #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:59

RT @KDWScience: #ukedchat absolutely one has ADHD think this has

made me a better teacher. More understanding

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KDWScience 20:59

@MissJLud @lgolton @gwenelope @georgeeblack @ukedchat absolutely

one has ADHD think this has made me a better teacher. More

understanding

Bigkid4 20:59

@MichelleDhillon @JanP65 #ukedchat I use edtech when it suits me to

but all I really need is my brain and possible a board and marker

MichelleDhillon 21:00@Bigkid4 @JanP65 No comment :) Can be obstructive if learners want touse tech to enhance skills #ukedchat

Gwenelope 21:00

@KDWScience @LGolton @Gwenelope @MissJLud @GeorgeEBlack

@ukedchat Not looking good on the kids front, re. age, single and

biological clock.

Bigkid4 21:00

@mrhand87 @syded06 #ukedchat If we're relying on teachers to teach

pupils how to interact with unknown future tech then we're in trouble...

oldandrewuk 21:00

@Mad_teach @Llamagretch #ukedchat Yes, but we are not therapists or

substitute parent; nor should we be.

DrDav 21:00

@JanP65 However, more seriously, I would expect some use of edtech at

some point during the year. e.g.Datalogging in science. #ukedchat

MrsThorne 21:01

RT @ukedchat Next week, @ThisisLiamM will host #ukedchat with "How

do we build upon the success of Team GB in our classrooms"?

KateBoot 21:01 @ukedchat me three :-)

Bigkid4 21:01

@JanP65 @syded06 #ukedchat If someone teachers better without

edtech than they do with it then why should they be compelled to use it?

ThisIsLiamM 21:01

RT @ukedchat: Next week, @ThisisLiamM will host #ukedchat with "How

do we build upon the success of Team GB in our classrooms"?

oldandrewuk 21:01

@rkieran @Mainy83 #ukedchat Which has, anecdote would indicate,

become a complete disaster area in recent years.

ukedchat 21:01

Next week, @ThisisLiamM will host #ukedchat with "How do we build

upon the success of Team GB in our classrooms"?

ukedchat 21:02 @LeighAlmey Almost? You did better than me :-D

oldandrewuk 21:02

@Mad_teach @ukedchat #ukedchat Turns out that being tested on

whether you know something is really good for remembering it.

Surprisingly so.

LeighAlmey 21:02 #ukedchat Thanks for hosting! I almost managed to keep up this time...

Bigkid4 21:02

@JanP65 @syded06 #ukedchat if not using edtech suits someones

teaching methods better then why should they be a worse teacher to suit

some

ukedchat 21:02

Thanks for all comments and discussion with #ukedchat this evening.

Good to be back :-D

oldandrewuk 21:02

@lewis892 #ukedchat If you don't mind me asking, if you are not a

teacher, what do you do?

Jon_Torbitt 21:02 @ukedchat @thisisliamm do we actually need to?

Llamagretch 21:03

sadly @oldandrew uk #ukedchat this convo is reminding me of last night's

on schl sport 'not our job, so we shouldn't do anything at all' >

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TaffTykeC 21:03

@teacherofy5 Our Reggio approach works a treat for this.

http://t.co/Sf1PGqD1 (Reception) #ukedchat

mrhand87 21:03

@TaffTykeC @ukedchat potentially, but balance/perspective needs to be

maintained as kids can often progress learning rapidly, or hinder it

oldandrewuk 21:03

@ukedchat #ukedchat I mean testing as a teaching method not

assessment. Ask kids to recall what they were meant to have learned.Works well.

bobdbob 21:03

@oldandrewuk @mattharding007 #ukedchat That's good. Are they happy

to admit they don't understand openly? Many of mine wouldn't.


@ukedchat @ThisisLiamM Sounds a great topic but sadly I'll be in Egypt :(

Good luck! #ukedchat

Mad_teach 21:04

@oldandrewuk @ukedchat may e for some but I remember NOTHING of

my gcse French!

JazzieDe 21:04@oldandrew #ukedchat But we should care and use skills to help childrendeal with emotions and situations unless I think wrongly! #ukedchat

Charlie_Uddin 21:04

@syded06 I'm interested in that concept, what thinking specifically, and

does curriculum/syllabus prevent? #ukedchat

plestered 21:04

@ukedchat @thisisliamm -great. Look forward to it. Can we then send

blog of tweets to #Gove

oldandrewuk 21:04

@Jon_Torbitt @DrDav @lauwailap1 #ukedchat I don't mind arguing over

what a table is, as long as it's a good argument. But there are bad ones

ukedchat 21:04

RT @mrhand87: #ukedchat potentially, but balance/perspective needs to

be maintained as kids can often progress learning rapidly,or hinder it

rkieran 21:04

@oldandrewuk @Mainy83 #ukedchat a disaster? Have you ever seen it in

a school working well?

danielharvey9 21:05 @oldandrewuk @ukedchat

Llamagretch 21:05

@oldandrewuk #ukedchat > meanwhile, whilst we wait for *someone

else* to get their act together, kids lose out

TriZachTri 21:06

RT @Bigkid4: @oldandrewuk @Llamagretch #ukedchat sadly you're

mistaken. Schools have become orphanages for children with parents in

many cases

Charlie_Uddin 21:06

@syded06 that's interesting, what you thinking specifically, and is it

limited by curriculum/sylabus? #ukedchat

Bigkid4 21:07

@mrhand87 @syded06 #ukedchat Given some teachers limited

competence with current tech I dread to think what they would be

teaching them...

lewis892 21:07

@DrDav @oldandrewuk but there would be sone you inspired even if you

didn't know it that's the joys of working with young people #ukedchat

ukedchat 21:07 RT @danielharvey9: @oldandrewuk #ukedchat

oldandrewuk 21:07

@mrlockyer #ukedchat Which is still ambiguous. What's the different

between "stimulating interest" and "entertaining"?

rkieran 21:07

@oldandrewuk @Mainy83 #ukedchat Anecdote would indicate primary

schools are non-competitive sporting cotton wool balls of fluff. Reality?

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MrG_ICT 21:07

How do we build upon the success of Team GB in our classrooms? Next

weeks #ukedchat topic looks very interesting.

Charlie_Uddin 21:08 @Charlie_Uddin not using tools #ukedchat

oldandrewuk 21:08 @Mad_teach @ukedchat I didn't saying "examining", I said testing.

ukedchat 21:09

RT @oldandrewuk: @Mad_teach #ukedchat I didn't saying "examining", I

said testing.

TaffTykeC 21:09

@teacherofy5 This year, my class caught a dragon through 'let's imagine'

theme but other class went to 'space'. Kids directed us. #ukedchat

Understoodit 21:10

RT @lewis892: @ukedchat or they could use the @Understoodit app :)

#ukedchat

ukedchat 21:10

RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat I do, but it turns out to be the recall, not

the application, which is key to reinforcing the learning.

mrhand87 21:10@Bigkid4 @syded06 #ukedchat But is that an excuse? Should CPDopportunities support teachers more effectively to reduce 'the dread?'

oldandrewuk 21:10

@danielharvey9 @ukedchat I do, but it turns out to be the recall, not the

application, which is key to reinforcing the learning.

ukedchat 21:11 #ukedchat archive process now started

Tech_Stories 21:11

@ValHewson No problem, should also find some useful FE & Edu

accounts from some of the lists on my profile. #ukedchat #cpchat

Bigkid4 21:13

@syded06 @mrhand87 #ukedchat There is no edtech that is essential. I

use various bits of software and hardware if and when it suits me...

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