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sharland 20:00first question - Did Gove go far enough in his proposals for

#ictcurric? #ukedchat

chrismayoh 20:00RT @ukedchat: Ok. It's 8pm. Time for #ukedchat Tonight hosted by

@sharland Topic = Digital Studies. Enjoy all.

ukedchat 20:00Ok. It's 8pm. Time for #ukedchat Tonight hosted by @sharland

Topic = Digital Studies. Enjoy all.

sharland 20:00

Good evening and welcome - My name is Brian and tonight is about

#digitalstudies #ukedchat with summary blogpost here

http://t.co/vQ6muSOY

mrpeel 20:01 ~ukedchat what is digital studies in plain English?

largerama 20:01 @sharland in a way he went too far #ukedchat

ICTwitz 20:01 @sharland I thought it was a bold move #ukedchat

TESict 20:01RT @sharland: first question - Did Gove go far enough in his

proposals for #ictcurric? #ukedchat

markbrumley 20:01How to use the Gmail trick. Share with your school.

http://t.co/Ye4BJgCv #vitalcpd #ukedchat

janbaker97 20:01Boo! Want to stay for #ukedchat but still have lessons to sort out

gregtheseal 20:01 #ukedchat good evening all, Gove just goes too far!

largerama 20:02@sharland but u cant ignore the time scale element either

#ukedchat

ICTmagic 20:02

@sharland My understanding of announcement was teachers will

have free choice on the curriculum. Can't imagine that happening!

#ukedchat

sharland 20:02for those he say he went too far - what was the issue? #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:02RT @ukedchat: Ok. It's 8pm. Time for #ukedchat Tonight hosted by

@sharland Topic = Digital Studies. Enjoy all.

ICTwitz 20:02@sharland But do think there is a business/commercial arm pulling

his strings somewhere! #ukedchat

sharland 20:02i think we can safely say gove isn't liked but i think we need to

dissect what he has said dispassionately #ukedchat

largerama 20:03

RT @bobharrisonset: @sharland There are two distinct issues

1)ICT=Computer Science and 2)ICT=technology enhanced learning

across the curriculum#ukedchat

ICTwitz 20:03

@PhilWheeler1 @sharland OFSTED have little to offer in this

respect, apart from grief! #ukedchat

sharland 20:03@ICTmagic i think i can imagine that happening so long as

commercial interests do not take priority #ukedchat

bobharrisonset 20:03

@sharland There are two distinct issues 1)ICT=Computer Science

and 2)ICT=technology enhanced learning across the

curriculum#ukedchat

mrpeel 20:03 #ukedchat what are we discussing? Gove vs ICT or wider?

largerama 20:03 he went too far cos he is ignoring certain skills that are essential in

ICT such as digital media at the expense of programming #ukedchat

mberry 20:03@sharland #ukedchat do you see the Gove message as 'you can dowhat you want' or as 'there must be more computing' (or

something else)?

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richardblaize 20:03#ukedchat - it's what Gove does next to ICT will determine whether

or not he went too far.

PhilWheeler1 20:03 @ICTwitz @sharland the cirric needs to change but wrried about

left to own divices what does this mean for ofsted #ukedchat

sharland 20:03 @ICTwitz a question i do have is how do we ensure that control ofnew #ictcurric still belongs to educationalists? #ukedchat

TESict 20:04

@sharland but isn't the Royal Society report going to influence the

shape of the new curriculum more than Gove's comments?

#ukedchat

sharland 20:04@largerama and that's where as you know #digitalstudies can

hopefully bring them back in #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:04#ukedchat is now on with @sharland Please remember to include

#ukedchat in your tweets :-)

MissTeacherUK 20:04

RT A by product of this afternoons awesomeness is I now have to

learn how to film using green screens, any ideas or guidance?!#ukedchat

largerama 20:04

RT @mattbritland: @ICTwitz @sharland I 100% think there was. He

has opened ICT for exploitation by business. Hence the

announcement at BETT. #ukedchat

sharland 20:04 @mberry a combination of both #ukedchat

mattbritland 20:04

@ICTwitz @sharland I 100% think there was. He has opened ICT for

exploitation by business. Hence the announcement at BETT.

#ukedchat

largerama 20:04 @mberry bits of all that #ukedchat

mberry 20:05

@sharland so, like, you can choose for yourself as long as you

choose this? That said, this (i.e. more computing) is a Good Thing.

#ukedchat

sharland 20:05@TESict i think he will be basing a lot of what he does on royal

society and also nesta nextgen report #ukedchat

Simon_Gardner 20:05

@sharland Gove should send Quran, Gibbons Decline & Fall,

Origin of Species, De revolutionibus orbium coelestium too.

#ictcurric #ukedchat

largerama 20:05 RT @sharland: @largerama and that's where as you know

#digitalstudies can hopefully bring them back in #ukedchat - agreed

Stephen_Logan 20:06Definitely need to tune into to #ukedchat tonight @Bellarus6666

@djmidgley @audiobluez

PeterSpencer88 20:06@TESict @sharland when did government listen to reports, they

only follow reports that say what they want #ukedchat

Heatherleatt 20:06 #ukedchat any curric needs balance. Fast changing area - needs to

be flexible so that students can keep abreast of latest innovations.

TESict 20:06@largerama wouldn't digital media be part of digital literacy?

#ukedchat

richardblaize 20:06 #ukedchat - I'm excited by what Gove did and what it could meanbut how it'll be developed by schools and non-specialists is a worry.

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web20education 20:06

#Plaxo Address Book for #iphone to syncing, finding, sharing

contacts #edtech20 #mlearning #ukedchat #edchat #prwebchat

http://t.co/ll2EEwtx

sharland 20:06@PeterSpencer88 @largerama according to gove ICT in some form

will remian #ukedchat

largerama 20:06@PeterSpencer88 agreed. This is a rush hob and can only cause at

many problems as wot we hav already #ukedchat

PhilWheeler1 20:06 RT @PeterSpencer88: @largerama I think you need one to enhance

the other, ditching ICT altogether would be ill-advised #ukedchat

TESict 20:06@sharland both are really important in defining the future direction

#ukedchat

ICTmagic 20:06@mberry Yes, that is an important distinction. Hopefully school

leaders and teacher will agree. #ukedchat

sharland 20:06so question is - how do we ensure that it is educationalists who

drive this forward? #ukedchat

Heatherleatt 20:07RT @mberry: @sharland nextgen was v. influential in his thinking.Royal Society report offers a pragmatic way forward, I think.

#ukedchat @tesict

PeterSpencer88 20:07@largerama the trouble is this govt. like to rush things through and

think about consequences later #ukedchat

TESict 20:07@largerama at the end of the day, as we develop a way forward we

need to ensure balance #ukedchat

TESict 20:07 @mberry agreed #ukedchat

sharland 20:07@TESict @largerama i see it as a different strand in #digitalstudies

#ukedchat

largerama 20:07@TESict depends on how u split the strands dig media can be part

of dig literacy #ukedchat

mberry 20:07 @sharland nextgen was v. influential in his thinking. Royal Society

report offers a pragmatic way forward, I think. #ukedchat @tesict

mattbritland 20:07

@PeterSpencer88 @largerama #ukedchat I agree...computing, ICT

and digital literacy should be combined?Would there be enough

time to deliver?

ICTwitz 20:07 @sharland #ukedchat I know the focus is ICT, but you could say the

same about the rest of the curriculum. I mean, Latin?

sharland 20:08@ICTwitz well ict changes may form a pilot to other subjects

#ukedchat

TESict 20:08@sharland @largerama #digitalstudies #ukedchat it's those

semantics that could bog discussions down!

eyebeams 20:08

@TESict I think we need to be more ambitious and build a digital

culture that augments the best of what we can do as educators

#ukedchat

PhilWheeler1 20:08

RT @Heatherleatt: #ukedchat any curric needs balance. Fast

changing area - needs to be flexible so that students can keep

abreast of latest innovations.

largerama 20:08 RT @sharland: @TESict @largerama i see it as a different strand in#digitalstudies #ukedchat

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richardblaize 20:08

#ukedchat - Training has to be key for new and existing staff. Should

be no longer acceptable for any teacher to have no ICT/computer

skills

bevevans22 20:08

RT @Heatherleatt: #ukedchat any curric needs balance. Fast

changing area - needs to be flexible so that students can keep

abreast of latest innovations.

sharland 20:08 @mattbritland @PeterSpencer88 @largerama possibly not but

that's where teachers can structure it to suit them #ukedchat

mberry 20:08@ICTmagic stranger things have happened, but hearing worrying

things from some secondaries #ukedchat

TESict 20:08 @mberry absolutely #ukedchat

LSpringett 20:08

@sharland do u think this means we will be free frm sept 2 use a

#digitalstudies type pos or expected to go computer science 24/7?

#ukedchat

PhilWheeler1 20:08@sharland #ukedchat we need time but fear we may not have this.

Problems will be created with a rushed job


today rummors #apple released 2 free #ipad apps #iTunesU &

#ibooksauthor http://t.co/A9yUvqk9 #edtech20 #prwebchat

#elemchat #ukedchat #smm

janbaker97 20:09@Heatherleatt #ukedchat that needs proper funding to work

MoodleMcKean 20:09 @ICTmagic is digital literacy a subject or educating students how to

use technology effectively and safely? #ukedchat

Educationchat 20:09@sharland Can we dissect Gove dispassionately? #ukedchat

ICTwitz 20:09 @sharland That's the worry! #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:09

RT @eyebeams: @TESict I think we need to be more ambitious and

build a digital culture that augments the best of what we can do as

educators #ukedchat

mattbritland 20:09@sharland @PeterSpencer88 @largerama #ukedchat And their

students. Which is why added flexibly is good.

DanielMills3 20:09

#ukedchat Gove = idiot but we need to move on. Now is the chance

for us to collaboratively create a creative/ imaginative ict

curriculum!

TESict 20:09

@eyebeams can you expand on what you mean by augmenting

what we do? #ukedchat

eyebeams 20:09 @Heatherleatt @PhilWheeler1 But teachers can't so there needs to

be co-opting of others from different disciplines to help #ukedchat

teachesict 20:09@sharland @TESict @largerama i see it under digital creativity

#ukedchat

Heatherleatt 20:10

RT @eyebeams: @TESict I think we need to be more ambitious and

build a digital culture that augments the best of what we can do as

educators #ukedchat

theokk 20:10. @bobharrisonset @sharland and a 3rd digital literacy #ukedchat

ClaireJoanneICT 20:10@PhilWheeler1 Agreed - unless it's carefully though through, it just

won't work #ukedchat

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TalkNQT 20:10

Could I get a RT about http://t.co/vx6JMOOU. A forum set up to

help NQTs get through that first year! Help, support or just rant!

#ukedchat

ICTmagic 20:10@MoodleMcKean Really, isn't it a life skill that everyone will need

in the future? #ukedchat

SheliBB 20:10

#ukedchat @mattbritland @peterspencer88 @largerama yes!

Teach skills, then give opportunity to practise them in other subjectareas

eyebeams 20:10

@TESict Yes choosing the right tech to bring people together 2

learn in more authentic ways thn now not just fish climbing trees

#ukedchat

TESict 20:10@teachesict to use ict in other areas of the curriculum in a creative

way! #ukedchat

largerama 20:10

@teachesict but they r just semantics. eseential thing is realisation

that ther r others than computin with as much significance

#ukedchat

sharland 20:10 @LSpringett i get the impression free to follow #digitalstudies - but

remember what I am proposing includes computing #ukedchat

JazzieDe 20:10@richardblaize Yes definately need training but also funding to do

this #ukedchat

Educationchat 20:10@sharland Gove didn't go far enough - New Zealand would be far

enough to stop doing any more damage... #ukedchat

TESict 20:10

@teachesict there is so much ICT that comes under a creativity

heading - whether it is to develop ict skills or to use ict in ...

#ukedchat

tgaletti 20:10RT @markbrumley: How to use the Gmail trick. Share with your

school. http://t.co/Ye4BJgCv #vitalcpd #ukedchat

mrtrobins 20:10 @richardblaize I agree, I think it is key that the skills we teach now

should be embedded across all subjects. #ukedchat

PeterSpencer88 20:10 @sharland @mattbritland @largerama a lot of the current ICT

curriculum which is irrelevant can be cut back #ukedchat

teachesict 20:10

RT @richardblaize: #ukedchat - Training has to be key for new and

existing staff. Should be no longer acceptable for any teacher to

have no ICT/computer skills

TESict 20:11@eyebeams not to mention healthy doses of collaboration that

would be impossible without the tech #ukedchat

ethinking 20:11 #ukedchat technology is useful cos it can make learning more

powerful - the challenge is to give teachers discernment

mberry 20:11 @ICTmagic VLE a side issue - Gove v +vs about tech in schools (but

not to the point of, you know, funding it) #ukedchat

sharland 20:11 RT @dwsm: I'm concerned that the experience of ICT in different

schools is going to widen considerably. #ukedchatHeatherleatt 20:11 @janbaker97 these things always do #ukedchat

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sharland 20:11@mjowchs i think gove is hoping by opening it up he can speed up

development #ukedchat

nightzookeeper 20:11

RT @richardblaize: #ukedchat - Training has to be key for new and

existing staff. Should be no longer acceptable for any teacher to

have no ICT/computer skills

mattbritland 20:11 @MoodleMcKean @ICTmagic I see digital literacy as how to usetechnology effectively and safely. Amongst other things. #ukedchat

largerama 20:11 RT @dwsm: I'm concerned that the experience of ICT in different

schools is going to widen considerably. #ukedchat

TESict 20:11@eyebeams so really effectively harnessing the tech to enhance

the learning in other words #ukedchat

largerama 20:11@PeterSpencer88 true but wot about all other issues #ukedchat

dwsm 20:11I'm concerned that the experience of ICT in different schools is

going to widen considerably. #ukedchat

ZoeRoss19 20:11 @PeterSpencer88: I think you need one to enhance the other,

ditching ICT altogether would be ill-advised #ukedchat

mjowchs 20:11#ukedchat how can ICT be flexible when a syllabus takes min 3

years to develop and implement

eyebeams 20:12Listen to this discussion at BETT at COllaborate 4 change about ICT

vs CS http://t.co/tFMHYXVy later #ukedchat

mattbritland 20:12@dwsm #ukedchat This is exactly my worry unless there is some

kind of structure or guidance.

JazzieDe 20:12@dwsm Yes unless all schools are given ringfenced funding not

dependant on size of school ! #ukedchat

PeterSpencer88 20:12@dwsm also the different experiences children bring from home is

wide-ranging #ukedchat

jodieworld 20:12

RT @ethinking: #ukedchat technology is useful cos it can make

learning more powerful - the challenge is to give teachers

discernment

ICTwitz 20:12How do we encompass #digitalstudies into EYFS & KS1? #ukedchat

TESict 20:12 @ethinking and to develop a range of skills that are transferrable

and not dependent on rapidly changing tools #ukedchat

largerama 20:12#ukedchat for dig literacy ther is a lot to take from @dajbelshaw 's

work

jackieschneider 20:12 #ukedchat - I struggle to talk about "subjects" in isolation.

sharland 20:12

RT @PhilWheeler1: @TESict @teachesict #ukedchat the freedom to

use modern tech in the classroom without people saying its too

risky

ClaireJoanneICT 20:12 @mberry worrying things? Such as? #ukedchat

ICTmagic 20:12@richardblaize So you think that they are under-used & under-

utilised currently? #ukedchat

sharland 20:12RT @ethinking: #ukedchat technology is useful cos it can makelearning more powerful - the challenge is to give teachers

discernment

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bevevans22 20:12 @dwsm #ukedchat I know exactly what you mean.

PhilWheeler1 20:12 @TESict @teachesict #ukedchat the freedom to use modern tech in

the classroom without people saying its too risky

TESict 20:12



discernment

mattbritland 20:12@SheliBB @peterspencer88 @largerama #ukedchat Where the

skills they are learnt are put in context.

eyebeams 20:13

@mberry @ICTmagic In the hannds of creative people - problem

solving has its own aesthetic within another aesthetic sometimes

#ukedchat

Heatherleatt 20:13@janbaker97 Indeed. I made that very point in last week's

discussion! #ukedchat

dajbelshaw 20:13 @largerama Thanks for the mention! #digilit #ukedchat

sharland 20:13RT @largerama: #ukedchat for dig literacy ther is a lot to take from

@dajbelshaw 's work - a huge amount

ICTmagic 20:13@mberry Funding was the main reason for dropping it from equal

footing with English, Maths and science. #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:13 @mattbritland #ukedchat In Wales ICT is a key skill in a skills based

curriculum. I'm not saying this works for all...#ukedchat

MoodleMcKean 20:13 @ICTmagic Agreed though it appears lots of people including Gove

seem to be treating it as a 'subject' #ukedchat

GeorgeEBlack 20:13 #ukedchat Basic programming needs to be taught, my students

blog for their cswk and a bit of html knowledge goes a long way.

sharland 20:13 RT @eyebeams: Listen to this discussion at BETT at COllaborate 4

change about ICT vs CS http://t.co/tFMHYXVy later #ukedchat

MrAHeard 20:13 #ukedchat the issue is he wants to get rid of ICT and swap for comp

Sci. Whilst I relish the latter it's foolish to abandon vital skills

1MvdS 20:13RT @markbrumley: How to use the Gmail trick. Share with your

school. http://t.co/Ye4BJgCv #vitalcpd #ukedchat

TESict 20:13 @PhilWheeler1 that's an ongoing challenge! #ukedchat

kateboshier 20:13RT @judeenright: Are your students thinking?: Introverts vs

Extroverts http://t.co/oavPntIr #gtchat #ukedchat

ethinking 20:13

#ukedchat @PeterSpencer88 level descriptors provide a v sensible

framework - future proof and not tech specific - prog of study

irrelevant

ClaireJoanneICT 20:13@richardblaize I agree - teachers have to be IT literate #ukedchat

largerama 20:13

RT @PeterSpencer88: @largerama the trouble is this govt. like to

rush things through and think about consequences later #ukedchat -

TRUE DAT

PhilWheeler1 20:14 @TESict too true #ukedchat

sharland 20:14Is #digitalstudies therefore a possible way forward for establishing a

modern curriculum? #ukedchat

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bobharrisonset 20:14

@theokk 3 issues 1) Computer Science 2) Technology enhanced

learning x curirculum 3)Digital Literacy :)Not sure Gove

understands? #ukedchat

dwsm 20:14How do we balance our freedom with supporting schools with less

experience of innovation #ukedchat

JazzieDe 20:14

Some teachers appear not keen to embrace new ideas or

technology, is it fear of the unknown ? How will this help?#ukedchat

mberry 20:14@eyebeams Yes. Making things is like that. Papert rocks. #ukedchat

@ictmagic

Titian73 20:14RT @TalkNQT: Could I get a RT about http://t.co/vx6JMOOU. A

forum set up to help NQTs get through that first year! Help, support

or just rant! #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:14RT @jackieschneider: There is a HUGE ICT divide at primary schools.

#ukedchat - You are not wrong there.

sharland 20:14 @ethinking i think level descriptors become embedded in stoneunfortunately #ukedchat

jackieschneider 20:14

RT @mberry: @ICTmagic coding is art, craft and science. I think

most teachers likely to take a craft approach. It's still a /creative/

thing. #ukedchat

GeorgeEBlack 20:14#ukedchat what I also see is the media students using their digital

skills in all their other subject to great effect.

TESict 20:14

@sharland do we need an ICT coordinator at EACH key stage to

ensure these are successful across the WHOLE curriculum?

#ukedchat

ICTwitz 20:14Should we be teaching about Excel in ICT? Should that be focused

to numeracy/math? #ukedchat

SheliBB 20:14#ukedchat @mattbritland @peterspencer88 @largerama

definitely! Purpose for learning etc

AndrewManson1 20:14

#ukedchat I see digital literacy as understanding core principles

about a binary world rather than a specific coding language or

technology

nightzookeeper 20:14Still a lot of primary schools without much tech in their classroom,

how do we solve this issue? #ukedchat

jackieschneider 20:14 There is a HUGE ICT divide at primary schools. #ukedchat

teachesict 20:14 @mjowchs why do we need a rigid syllabus? #ukedchat

SheliBB 20:15 #ukedchat @bevevans22 @dwsm with the loss of advisers and ASTs

etc skills probably will differ greatly across schools

sharland 20:15

@JazzieDe we need to make sure teachers get the training - but

also realise ICT and #digitalstudies must be part led by pupils

#ukedchat

nightzookeeper 20:15@GeorgeEBlack agreed it would be good for all students to have a

basic grasp #ukedchat

mattbritland 20:15@ICTwitz #ukedchat My opinion is that spreadsheets should be

taught in maths and physics.

ICTmagic 20:15 @MoodleMcKean It's easier to package as a subject for theGovernment. It's a neat box to tick. #ukedchat

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eyebeams 20:15@bobharrisonset @theokk Wrap it up in Digital Culture and then

it's easier #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:15#ukedchat fancy having a look at my primary ict curriculum?

Www.ictplanning.co.uk

TESict 20:15 @eyebeams Wenger's work is SOOOO important as we develop

new pedagogies that involve tech-based collaboration #ukedchat

ethinking 20:15#ukedchat @sharland @tesict wait for a generation of teachers to

retire #pencilchat

jackieschneider 20:15 RT @nightzookeeper: Still a lot of primary schools without much

tech in their classroom, how do we solve this issue? #ukedchat

largerama 20:15 @ICTwitz i teach spreadsheets in context. I have an awesome

champ manager game in excel students love #ukedchat

PhilWheeler1 20:16

@sharland from your blog comments its a possibility #ukedchat

jackieschneider 20:16RT @ianaddison: #ukedchat fancy having a look at my primary ict

curriculum? Www.ictplanning.co.uk

theokk 20:16@bobharrisonset interesting to read DML Central's take on it

http://t.co/wUOW6a4a #ukedchat

mattbritland 20:16@dwsm #ukedchat Pulling together as a team. Rather than schools

competing we should be helping each other?

SheliBB 20:16#ukedchat @ICTwitz so many high quality free resources online for

EYFS and ks1

mrtrobins 20:16

@jackieschneider I agree, with certain year 7 ICT classes it is often

possible to tell which primary they went to based on ability

#ukedchat

GeorgeEBlack 20:16 #ukedchat the other thing of course is that the kids are a lot more

digitally orientated than we are. Education is playing catch up.

TESict 20:16 @eyebeams will do! #ukedchat

ethinking 20:16 #ukedchat I don't know any decent industry coders who weren't

self taught - its part of what makes a decent coder - self teaching

heartofsol 20:16 #ukedchat - If schools start setting their own curric, how do you

compare a student's learning and skills? Will all grades be equal?

jackieschneider 20:16@AndrewManson1 - first tweet I've seen defining digital lit. Thanks!

#ukedchat

largerama 20:16

@sharland #digitalstudies is fine spectrum of skills that need to b

considerd in a strong curric covering subject we r discussing

#ukedchat

eyebeams 20:16@TESict Look up JOhn Seely Browns Creation Nets too #ukedchat

PhilWheeler1 20:16@largerama @ICTwitz started to move to this ideas as it fits better

#ukedchat

ICTwitz 20:16 @mattbritland Indeed, and Word/Powerpoint skills withinEnglish/Literacy! #ukedchat

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TESict 20:16 @ethinking I don't necessarily agree - it's a state of mind not a state

of age that causes the reluctance to try new ideas #ukedchat

sharland 20:16RT @ianaddison: #ukedchat fancy having a look at my primary ict


teachesict 20:17

@ianaddison: #ukedchat fancy having a look at my primary ict



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eyebeams 20:18

@judeenright @MrAHeard Not if you co-opt the students to be

more agile and curious in deper ways #ukedchat #stepchange

#culturechange

bevevans22 20:18

@SheliBB @dwsm #ukedchat skills already differ greatly across

schools. Training, confidence and funding are all issues that

contribute

celaV 20:18 RT @ethinking #ukedchat .... its part of what makes a decent coder -self teaching > interesting

ClaireJoanneICT 20:18 @ICTmagic Exactly - this is why it's so important #ukedchat

GeorgeEBlack 20:18 @largerama Well we on twitter are exceptions, but mostly the kids

have the tech and the skills long before the school does #ukedchat

mberry 20:18 @mrtrobins @jackieschneider it'll get worse before it gets better.

10 sorts of schools - those who teach computing and #ukedchat

SheliBB 20:18#ukedchat @GeorgeEBlack have been programming today with 4/3

children using scratch. They loved it!

TESict 20:18

RT @eyebeams: @TESict Mostly community building - communities

of practice - Wenger http://t.co/rNfxqxJx with pupils as well

#ukedchat

ICTwitz 20:18@ethinking Mitra (2010) has proved that children (in India) self

taught themselves computer skills! #ukedchat

90_maz 20:19

RT @GeorgeEBlack: @largerama Well we on twitter are exceptions,

but mostly the kids have the tech and the skills long before the

school does #ukedchat

ePaceonline 20:19



discernment

sharland 20:19@PeterSpencer88 @JazzieDe but how do you ensure that all

schools can access that? #ukedchat

TESict 20:19

@ethinking @jackieschneider poverty of skill can be overcome by

openess and a desire to improve learning for those in our class

#ukedchat

PhilWheeler1 20:19

RT @GeorgeEBlack: @largerama Well we on twitter are exceptions,

but mostly the kids have the tech and the skills long before the

school does #ukedchat

ICTwitz 20:19

@heartofsol I tried looking yesterday, and it was all blank!!! ;-)

#ukedchat

Mrs_NLC 20:19RT @TalkNQT: Could I get a RT about http://t.co/vx6JMOOU. A



mberry 20:19 @bobharrisonset The RS see there as a disciple of IT distinct from

CS and DL (and TEL) @MoodleMcKean #ukedchat

sharland 20:19 RT @PeterSpencer88: @JazzieDe I think creative partnerships with

digital industries are also an excellent tool #ukedchat

nightzookeeper 20:19@SheliBB @ictwitz have you got a particular favourite site?

#ukedchat

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JazzieDe 20:19

@PeterSpencer88 How do we get round this then? I love learning

from others especially my own teenagers! A threat to others

though..#ukedchat

eyebeams 20:19 RT @PeterSpencer88: @JazzieDe I think creative partnerships with

digital industries are also an excellent tool #ukedchat

largerama 20:19@GeorgeEBlack hmm i think we hav to be careful with theseassumptions. Rnt we goin down the digital immigrants route here?

#ukedchat

matt_bellingham 20:20

Class 6 have been baking and doing lots of work on tribes. They'd

love your comments at http://t.co/xPJstxs9 #ukedchat

#comments4kids

bevevans22 20:20

@TESict @ethinking @jackieschneider Sometimes there will a key

moment that connects with pupils - makes them want to learn

more #ukedchat

ICTEvangelist 20:20@sharland I think there were some parts that are really worrying

for many schools and many teachers #ukedchat

ethinking 20:20

#ukedchat @judeenright NO NO - you are teaching coding on a

spreadsheet - regardless of publisher - teach agility not product

training

JazzieDe 20:20@sharland A great question hope it can be answered. #ukedchat

nightzookeeper 20:20@ethinking agree but they must have started somewhere right?

Could that be at school? #ukedchat

mrsmeeks64 20:20RT @TalkNQT: Could I get a RT about http://t.co/vx6JMOOU. A



ICTEvangelist 20:20 @sharland i think some elements of what #gove said in his speech

are really encouraging but it does need careful reading #ukedchat


#edtech20 blog post #otixo #socialmedia #curation #startup to

manage #cloud apps http://t.co/n8Yqxcv0 #edchat #prwebchat

#tlchat #ukedchat

GeorgeEBlack 20:20

#ukedchat also need to stop the perception of tech based learning

as 'easy' or not proper learning. Some school and parents still

against.

TESict 20:20

@ethinking @jackieschneider #ukedchat there's nothing more

motivating than wanting to give the kids in class the best possible

experience

eyebeams 20:20

@PeterSpencer88 Yes but they MUST be bankrolled by industry to

be sustainable - industry paying for interation and action research

#ukedchat

AndrewManson1 20:20 @ethinking #ukedchat - all skills can be acquired - ambition is

cultural - change the culture to allow digital skills to flourish

SheliBB 20:20

#ukedchat @ICTmagic @mberry which is poop,because it's an

essential part of English, maths&science. And all other curriculumareas actually!

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ICTwitz 20:21Can I ask then....what ICT skills *should* pupils be leaving primary

school with? #ukedchat


@TESict @ethinking - but when school leadership doesn't see it as

priority so no investment in kit, staff etc then change is SLOW!

#ukedchat

mattbritland 20:21 @GeorgeEBlack #ukedchat Agreed, lots of parents think thatbecause their child can use Facebook they are good at ICT.

TESict 20:21 @bevevans22 so true #ukedchat

sharland 20:21@ICTEvangelist i think it gives us the scope to interpret how we see

the curriculum benefitting pupils #ukedchat

eyebeams 20:21RT @theokk: @GeorgeEBlack to quote Norbert Pachler at last

weeks MirandaMod - they are "naive skills"#ukedchat

TESict 20:21@ethinking @jackieschneider #ukedchat so passion for improving

learning is key to keeping fresh professionally

PhilWheeler1 20:21

RT @GeorgeEBlack: #ukedchat also need to stop the perception of

tech based learning as 'easy' or not proper learning. Some schooland parents still against.

teknoteacher 20:21#ukedchat Enjoying reading opinions of others on 'Future of ICT

debate' :-)

eyebeams 20:21@GeorgeEBlack Don't mention the word HTML until you see the

whites of their eyes ;) #ukedchat

MrAHeard 20:21@judeenright Skills are not limited to office products. Many see ICT

as Office this is wrong in itself. #ukedchat

theokk 20:21@GeorgeEBlack to quote Norbert Pachler at last weeks

MirandaMod - they are "naive skills"#ukedchat

ICTwitz 20:21

@nightzookeeper @SheliBB Programing robots? Can we move

beyond bee-bots? Or are they a good starting point for EYFS/KS1?

#ukedchat

ICTmagic 20:21 @ClaireJoanneICT Importance of digital skills has reached tipping

point - Now life damaging if without those skills. #ukedchat

teachesict 20:21@heartofsol @sharland @ICTwitz have you see @sharland new

wiki? #ukedchat

SheliBB 20:21 #ukedchat @jackieschneider there is! Divide is caused by lack of

time, training and awareness of fab, fun resources available.

sharland 20:22@heartofsol yes - and is my intention with #digitalstudies as well

#ukedchat

eyebeams 20:22@jackieschneider @TESict @ethinking Because they don't think of

it

judeenright 20:22

#ukedchat @eyebeams:" Not if you co-opt the students to be more

agile and curious in deper ways " more chance of that in

programming lesson

SheliBB 20:22#ukedchat @night-zookeeper @ictwitz poisson rouge, tes iboard,

ICTgames and phonics play are fab for EYFS

ePaceonline 20:22 RT @dwsm: How do we balance our freedom with supportingschools with less experience of innovation #ukedchat

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sharland 20:23RT @Stephen_Logan: Have we considered what students want to

learn in ICT? #ukedchat

TESict 20:23@jackieschneider it encourages creativity with free tools and

making the most of what is actually there!!! #ukedchat

mberry 20:23 @SheliBB but CS and IT are distinct disciplines too. cf We teach

English, and through the medium of English. #ukedchat @ictmagic

ClaireJoanneICT 20:23@MrAHeard Totally agree - basic skills should not be disregarded

#ukedchat

theokk 20:23 @mattbritland @GeorgeEBlack - what they (kids) are good at... is

making those spaces work for themselves #ukedchat

SheliBB 20:23

RT @bevevans22: @SheliBB @dwsm #ukedchat skills already differ

greatly across schools. Training, confidence and funding are all

issues that contribute

TESict 20:23 @jackieschneider but not impossible - one step at a time, one footin front of the other - and if there aren't the funds, .... #ukedchat

Stephen_Logan 20:23Have we considered what students want to learn in ICT? #ukedchat

PeterSpencer88 20:24@sharland @JazzieDe approach business, most would be willing

because of the excellent PR #ukedchat

mrtrobins 20:24

@mattbritland @GeorgeEBlack educating parents and school

leaders about what the students learn in a new curriculum will be

key. #ukedchat

SheliBB 20:24

#ukedchat @bevevans22 @dwsm I just wrote almost the same

thing, then read your tweet. Funding and confidence are barriers to

ICT provision

nightzookeeper 20:24 @ICTwitz @shelibb I would say they are a good start, definitely

engage the students when used correctly #ukedchat

teacherofy5 20:24

Would love to do dreamweaver with my y5/y6, budget [!] problem -

I know they would be able to create basic sites #ukedchat-they're

eager too!

bevevans22 20:24

@TESict During kids reflecting session at school staff picked up lots

of tips: http://t.co/vopIIBMQ -learning from others is key

#ukedchat

ClaireJoanneICT 20:24@ICTmagic Agreed - you are definitely at a disadvantage if you're

not IT literate #ukedchat

eyebeams 20:24http://t.co/EvZnBCbE Chris Yapp on the shift needed #ukedchat

josepicardo 20:24 Kodak is a prime example of what happens if you mismanage or

ignore the changing circumstances around you #ukedchat

mberry 20:24

@jackieschneider slower still when SLT stop teachers from

innovating. SLT should get out of the way. #ukedchat @tesict

@ethinking

GeorgeEBlack 20:24#ukedchat to do a Media A level you need to blog, vlog, screencapture, photo edit, video edit, program in html, export, use

various web 2.0

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ICTEvangelist 20:24

if I read it correctly, i'm excited about the changes and creating a

curric that enables us to teach kids what they want to learn

#ukedchat

mbrayford 20:24

RT @nightzookeeper: Still a lot of primary schools without much

tech in their classroom, how do we solve this issue? #ukedchat

totally agree

LSpringett 20:24 #ukedchat my concern is, if the subject does go basic curr. in 2014,

we a relying on SLTs to see the worth in a stand alone ict subject.

Stephen_Logan 20:24

RT @largerama: @Stephen_Logan Have we considered what

students want to learn in ICT? #ukedchat - doin just that with y9 via

student voice at mo

TESict 20:24

@eyebeams @jackieschneider @ethinking #ukedchat yes,need to

get across the message that a community is not just within the

walls of school

jackieschneider 20:25 @mberry @tesict @ethinking - you have no idea how many illicitstrategies I have to employ to get round SLT! #ukedchat

eyebeams 20:25@mberry @shelibb @ictmagic Oh we will - we will in spades ;)

#ukedchat

TESict 20:25 @mberry isn't it just the same with kids learning - when we stand

back they flourish, when we smother, they suffocate! #ukedchat


#InboundWriter delivers real-time search & social intelligence in the

#cloud #edtech20 #elearning #edchat http://t.co/q4k6SbPU

#ukedchat

sharland 20:25

RT @teachesict: it is important that we all get together and

collaborate at #rethinkingICT conf and @sharland wiki #ukedchat so

all doing similar things

ICTEvangelist 20:25

@sharland problem is, not every school has you, @ICTmagic etc

working there, championing the best of what the world has to offer

#ukedchat

PhilWheeler1 20:25 RT @ClaireJoanneICT: @ICTmagic Agreed - you are definitely at a

disadvantage if you're not IT literate #ukedchat

DanielMills3 20:25@largerama @Stephen_Logan Interesting thought...do we do this

in other subject?...should we? #ukedchat

teachesict 20:25

it is important that we all get together and collaborate at

#rethinkingICT conf and @sharland wiki #ukedchat so all doing

similar things

eyebeams 20:25@josepicardo Look up John Seely Brown's Creation Nets

http://t.co/Tk91iwGV #ukedchat

nightzookeeper 20:25@ICTwitz @shelibb also they adapt well for making cross curricular

links #ukedchat

mberry 20:25@sharland I think so, at least up to end of KS3. #ukedchat @shelibb

@ictmagic

sharland 20:25@josepicardo exactly - we need flexibility and going open source

proovides that #ukedchat

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TESict 20:25 @eyebeams @jackieschneider #ukedchat @ethinking community

is ANYONE the class can connect with - WHEREVER they are!

campbellhowes 20:26 @sharland how about teachers and developers getting together to

write new study materials, using platforms like iBooks? #ukedchat

Stephen_Logan 20:26 what do businesses want from students in terms of ICT? Skills?Adaptability? creativity? . . . #ukedchat

GeorgeEBlack 20:26

RT @mrtrobins: @mattbritland @GeorgeEBlack educating parents

and school leaders about what the students learn in a new

curriculum will be key. #ukedchat

TESict 20:26@jackieschneider oh I do! but they realised that it was having an

impact! #ukedchat

sharland 20:26@ICTEvangelist @ICTmagic well built curriculum by ourselves may

help those sorts of schools #ukedchat

ICTmagic 20:26@mberry I have the same excuse as Mr Gove... by 17 years.

#ukedchat

nightzookeeper 20:26@ICTwitz big question! Certainly more than just the ability to create

a PowerPoint and word process! #ukedchat

mberry 20:26 @ICTmagic 'literacy hour' aargh. #ukedchat

GeorgeEBlack 20:26

#ukedchat having good digital litracy I have few computer

programming skill, but I can take full advantage of what the web

has to offer.

heartofsol 20:26

#ukedchat Bigger question - how do we make sure that anything we

decide to teach today won't be outdated by the time a pupil takes

the exam?

ICTEvangelist 20:26@dwsm that's what i'm talking about - the consistency of

experience will be all over the place #ukedchat

SheliBB 20:26

#ukedchat @ICTwitz @nightzookeeper beebots are a great thing,

the children love them.They also love making avatars, animations,

photostories

Stephen_Logan 20:27

RT @ICTEvangelist: if I read it correctly, i'm excited about the

changes and creating a curric that enables us to teach kids what

they want to learn #ukedchat

mrtrobins 20:27@ICTwitz the level of ICT ability expected on entry to secondary

surely will be higher? #ukedchat

teachesict 20:27

RT @richardblaize: @ICTwitz - Simply the willingness to

try/succeed/fail. Nothing is more frustrating than a teacher led

class. #ukedchat

AndrewManson1 20:27@heartofsol - by talking about core principles and not specific

languages or tech.. #ukedchat

ICTmagic 20:27@mberry I usually just call them mum and dad! :) #ukedchat

eyebeams 20:27 @campbellhowes @sharland How about thet get in the same place

and have hackdays #ukedchat so they actively code stuff #ukedchat

GeorgeEBlack 20:27

#ukedchat we're a boarding schoo the kids all now have online blog

diaries to help them note everything they do... some parentscomplained.

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sharland 20:27 @campbellhowes ibooks author - i saw that and thought

#digitalstudies materials should be built in that pronto #ukedchat

TESict 20:27 ARGH! have to go in a few minutes.... #ukedchat

chrisleach78 20:27

RT @teachesict: it is important that we all get together and

collaborate at #rethinkingICT conf and @sharland wiki #ukedchat so

all doing similar things

nightzookeeper 20:27 @mrtrobins @mattbritland @georgeeblack this should become a

lot easier as the school blog becomes more popular #ukedchat

ICTmagic 20:27@mberry Thankfully no literacy hour in my school.

#ThematicApproach #CreativeCurriculum #ukedchat

mattbritland 20:27@jackieschneider #ukedchat Many school were taken for a ride by

providers of VLE's. RM are a prime example.

ePaceonline 20:27 #ukedchat should we be making pupils more 'digitally aware' and

able to discern the positives and negatives of digital age?

teachesict 20:27@Stephen_Logan yes - and it seems to be a lot of the digital

creativity strand #ukedchat

Chrissy_Kelly 20:27

@ICTwitz students need "ICT capability" cross platform &

application, time to play, produce and use IcT, computers cross-

curricula #ukedchat

jackieschneider 20:27 @TESict @eyebeams @ethinking - don't disagree. I am tripping

over real life community in my classroom #ukedchat

MrAHeard 20:27RT @ClaireJoanneICT: @MrAHeard Totally agree - basic skills should

not be disregarded #ukedchat

SheliBB 20:27

RT @ICTmagic: @SheliBB You of all people know that 'subjects'

merge and flow, which is how life is. #CreativeCurriculum

#ukedchat

eyebeams 20:27 @mberry @ICTmagic LIteracy + Numeracy hour = lunacy hour -

deeper learning please - take weeks over it! #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:28 @mrtrobins @ICTwitz at the moment local secondary bases skill

level in ICT on how well a child can use Excel in Y6...#ukedchat

eyebeams 20:28 RT @sharland: @eyebeams @campbellhowes i want pupils to have

hack days as their form of assessment #ukedchat #digitalstudies

mattbritland 20:28 @ePaceonline #ukedchat Yep!

jackieschneider 20:28 RT @mattbritland: @jackieschneider #ukedchat Many school were

taken for a ride by providers of VLE's. RM are a prime example.

sharland 20:28@eyebeams @campbellhowes i want pupils to have hack days as

their form of assessment #ukedchat #digitalstudies

TESict 20:28thanks for great chat and sorry to whizzzz off early #ukedchat

#joysofparenting

GeorgeEBlack 20:28 @nightzookeeper @mrtrobins @mattbritland you're right, we have

no VLE but a great school blogging system #ukedchat

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eyebeams 20:30

RT @theokk: RT @mberry: @sharland: forget exams and tests -

present products and media to others #digitalstudies #ukedchat

Yes :-)


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ukedchat 20:30 8.30 Time Check for #ukedchat. Tonight with @sharland talking

about Digital Studies. Pop along if you've missed the first half hour!

PhilWheeler1 20:31 @mrtrobins welcome Mr R #ukedchat

JazzieDe 20:31

@mrtrobins I love blogging .We just started quadblogging too. I am

learning so much and enjoying surely this is way forward?

#ukedchat

GeorgeEBlack 20:31@TESict @teachesict #ukedchat I agree - Media studies all creative,

all ICT based these days.

SheliBB 20:31#ukedchat @ICTmagic lol! You are probably the most 'embedded'

person in the world!

eyebeams 20:31

@jackieschneider @mattbritland @GeorgeEBlack Parents can do

the heavy lifting when co-opted as part of a wider learning

community #ukedchat

nightzookeeper 20:31 @campbellhowes @sharland definitely a good idea, this should and

will happen more often in the near future #ukedchat

sharland 20:31@nightzookeeper @heartofsol exactly - get them to see the

relevance #ukedchat

andreacarr1 20:31

RT @bobharrisonset Only 2 more days on opening themes for ICT

conversation with Michael Gove and DfE http://t.co/8YmVY1uC

#ukedchat

ICTwitz 20:31Does #codeacademy have a role to play in this debate? #ukedchat

coastforbob 20:31Programming has proven difficult and while new realm.. Binary,

which I was dreading, was a breeze! #ukedchat

mrtrobins 20:31@bevevans22 @ictwitz indeed, this is what makes the mention of a

creative approach so exciting. #ukedchat

sharland 20:31

RT @nightzookeeper: @heartofsol I think if we teach a skills based

curriculum rather than content then children will find it easier to

adapt #ukedchat

mattbritland 20:31

@davidhunter #ukedchat All students should be competent in

software such as #office. This then allows us to move on in

secondary.


RT @ICTmagic: @nightzookeeper Should the curriculum be written

at all? I can plan based on the needs of my class, not Whitehall.

#ukedchat

jackieschneider 20:31 @mattbritland @GeorgeEBlack - not ALL parents! Important to deal

with parents as individuals rather than capitulate #ukedchat

sharland 20:31

RT @AndrewManson1: @ethinking #ukedchat - all skills can be

acquired - ambition is cultural - change the culture to allow digital

skills to flourish

coastforbob 20:31

Really enjoying Computing in Y10 but cant help thinking of the

massive hurdle for getting Y7s onboard. Seems a massive mission

#ukedchat

teacherofy5 20:32

RT @AndrewManson1: @ethinking #ukedchat - all skills can be

acquired - ambition is cultural - change the culture to allow digitalskills to flourish

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ePaceonline 20:32RT @Stephen_Logan: Have we considered what students want to


heartofsol 20:32

@richardblaize #ukedchat Can we guarantee that any skills we

teach will be useful for ever? Maths, Literacy & Science have an

edge over ICT


Best #edtech20 post #Curation is #socialmedia king,top 10 tools

who change research in #education http://t.co/B1WpaYCn#prwebchat #ukedchat

eyebeams 20:32

@MrAHeard @davidhunter They can learn them from collaboration

#ukedchat and transparency of learning and community augmented

by tech

chrisleach78 20:32#ukedchat #RethinkingICT conference - http://t.co/Yri92Ceq

mberry 20:32 @coastforbob You'd be surprised - some primaries starting Scratch

in Y2 now. Craft coding easier than CompSci though. #ukedchat

sharland 20:32RT @teachesict: create and share our own resources - add tohttp://t.co/VpX8Z7qU - happy to give editing rights to all!

#ukedchat - sharing is so important

PeterSpencer88 20:32@nightzookeeper @heartofsol deffo agree, not where Gove is

headed though #ukedchat

sharland 20:32 @ICTwitz its a good site but im finding i have to create supporting

materials - dont rely on it completely #ukedchat #codecademy

Chrissy_Kelly 20:32@MrAHeard I wonder if it will ever be an ICT specialist in another

subjects lesson #ukedchat.

teachesict 20:32

create and share our own resources - add to http://t.co/VpX8Z7qU -

happy to give editing rights to all! #ukedchat - sharing is so

important

jackieschneider 20:32@ICTmagic @nightzookeeper - so agree! Let's put kids before

Whitehall & league tables #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:32@mrtrobins @ictwitz I consider myself lucky that I have always

been able to plan in a creative manner #ukedchat

theokk 20:32

RT @jackieschneider: not ALL parents! Important to deal with

parents as individuals rather than capitulate #ukedchat


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bucharesttutor 20:33

Good Evening everybody, sorry got late as was downloading iTunes

U and iBooks 2 for my iPad, see lots of advantages in classrooms

#ukedchat

sharland 20:33RT @chrisleach78: #ukedchat #RethinkingICT conference -

http://t.co/Yri92Ceq

ZoeRoss19 20:33


at all? I can plan based on the needs of my class, not Whitehall.#ukedchat

nightzookeeper 20:33@ICTmagic I agree with you but I think realistically that change is

still out of our reach :( #ukedchat

theokk 20:33@PeterSpencer88 think Gove is opening a chink in the armour -

use it! #ukedchat

DJToadie 20:33

#ukedchat @mberry that's what we do, get our SLD students to

create and present and we asses what and how they created their

work

mattbritland 20:33@jackieschneider @GeorgeEBlack #ukedchat You are right. I did not

mean to generalise. I meant 'some' parents. Sorry

John_Pallister 20:33

ICT (Functional/Literacy) is an entitlement for all; Computing as

Option; Emphasis on Improved Teaching +Learning experience 4 all

#ukedchat

ICTmagic 20:33@SheliBB Sort of. I'm on my bed now. Too early to be under the

covers yet. #ukedchat

Chrissy_Kelly 20:33RT @chrisleach78: #ukedchat #RethinkingICT conference -

http://t.co/Yri92Ceq

mbrayford 20:34


at all? I can plan based on the needs of my class, not Whitehall.

#ukedchat

ICTmagic 20:34@nightzookeeper Yes, the government cannot be seen to lose the

control completely. #shame #ukedchat

DojitGames 20:34 RT @sharland: @eyebeams @campbellhowes i want pupils to have

hack days as their form of assessment #ukedchat #digitalstudies

chrisleach78 20:34

#ukedchat Still looking for people to declare an interest in the

#RethinkingICT day - sign up here - http://t.co/2gbOrdIO (No

commitment)

teacherofy5 20:34

@AndrewManson1 #ukedchat agree: ambition is cultural,change

the culture-though some hard to change, if they [teachers]don't

feel confident

sharland 20:34

RT @ethinking: #ukedchat @ePaceonline prensky wrote about it -

he abandoned digital natives in favour of digital wisdom

http://t.co/ZbkOuUBW

heartofsol 20:34

@AndrewManson1 #ukedchat I think the trouble with ICT is that

the "core principles" change with every innovation. Happy to be

corrected!

mjowchs 20:34

RT @coastforbob: Our ideal future ICT lessons would be one strand

in KS3 encompassing all then stranded into Graphics, Media,

Designer, etc in KS4 #ukedchat

MrAHeard 20:34#ukedchat @Chrissy_Kelly ICT gets farmed out to non ICT teachersnow, goodness knows what will happen when they need to know

how to code!

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dwsm 20:37

#ukedchat feel all involved in this discussion have good

appreciation of general direction we need to go in. We are talking

fine tuning

davidhunter 20:37 @eyebeams @MrAHeard I am very much behind blogging

movement in this regard. And other social media. #ukedchat

Chrissy_Kelly 20:37@MrAHeard I never experience this my 3 different schools all hadall specialist ICT teachers doing great things, coding, html, etc

#ukedchat

ePaceonline 20:37

@heartofsol #ukedchat, I think we can be certain that it will be

different, teaching the how rather than the what therefore

important.

eyebeams 20:37

@sharland @bobharrisonset @mberry With different strands cross

curricular fun where trad curric is suspended for a time esp in KS3

#ukedchat

jackieschneider 20:37I don't think ICT is a "subject" at primary school. It is a vital tool to

be used in ALL lessons. #ukedchat #learnthrudoing

TalkNQT 20:38 Given that NQTs have to use "literacy, numeracy, and ICT" in their

lessons, shouldn't ICT be used everywhere? #ukedchat #talknqt

sharland 20:38RT @mattbritland: #ukedchat Anyone here from industry that have

any thoughts?

sharland 20:38@nightzookeeper @ictmagic @mbrayford got to walk a fine line

between the two #ukedchat

Stephen_Logan 20:38RT @mattbritland: #ukedchat Anyone here from industry that have

any thoughts?

heartofsol 20:38 @SheliBB #ukedchat Should the new #ictcurric be fun or

interesting? Or can it be both? Should we aspire for it to be both?

theokk 20:38 . @mberry @bobharrisonset design thinking? #ukedchat

dwsm 20:38 #ukedchat big issue is ensuring equal opportunity for all students -

how to get ideas across without LEA or National curriculum?

Heatherleatt 20:38

@teachesict @PhilWheeler1 @MrAHeard agreed. Have been

initiatives to try to uphill all teachers in past eg Hands on Support.

#ukedchat 1/2

PeterSpencer88 20:38 @teachesict definitely, a collection of ideas and resources would

strengthen and support teachers who aren't as confident #ukedchat

sharland 20:38 @ICTmagic routes into HE and employment - we need to be

constructive and practical about what pupils need #ukedchat

ePaceonline 20:38RT @SheliBB: #ukedchat @ICTmagic yes! and that's how our ICT

curriculum should be - embedded, creative and FUN!

richardblaize 20:39

#ukedchat - Are we too focused on actual skills, should we look at

concepts/confidence/understanding that can be developed to

learn.

PhilWheeler1 20:39 @davidhunter @eyebeams @MrAHeard I agree use blog and

edmodo. Edmodo for the first time today. they loved it #ukedchat

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sharland 20:39@mberry @bobharrisonset name is NB as a 'rebrand' if you like and

a way to wrap up all the different terms #ukedchat

largerama 20:39@TalkNQT but most pgce training is not supporting the

advancement of IT in the profession #ukedchat

Stephen_Logan 20:39@HullEsteemLEP what ICT skills Qualifications do you look for in a

potential employee? #ukedchat

DJToadie 20:39#ukedchat all curric should be fun and interesting not just ICT

ICTmagic 20:39

@nightzookeeper Not quite what I meant. Public DO expect

politicians to do something, even when the best course is to do

nothing. #ukedchat

heartofsol 20:39

RT @sharland: @eyebeams @campbellhowes i want pupils to have

hack days as their form of assessment #ukedchat #digitalstudies -

Great idea!

ethinking 20:39

#ukedchat kids take steps with code when they NEED it - a blog is

ok - then they see other better blogs and want to know how -

unlock HTML

SheliBB 20:39

#ukedchat @bevevans22 @peterspencer88 love the angry birds

post! Have made a game with scratch (copied from the site).

Children love it!

JazzieDe 20:39 @jackieschneider Yes but you can only use tools you have and

know about. How do non specialists keep up to date? #ukedchat

MrAHeard 20:39

#ukedchat @mattbritland prior to teaching I worked in a software

house. Was ALL code orientated &logical thought. No MS office

skills needed

mberry 20:39 @sharland how important is the name? 'Digital studies', 'ICT' as

now, 'Computing' (as the RS suggest)? @bobharrisonset #ukedchat

PhilWheeler1 20:40

RT @ethinking: #ukedchat kids take steps with code when they

NEED it - a blog is ok - then they see other better blogs and want to

know how - unlock HTML

andreacarr1 20:40 @davidhunter @MrAHeard Children can become better readers

and writers when tech/ict comes in. Engagement. #ukedchat

eyebeams 20:40 @richardblaize Focus on the ways in which the digital can help

augment communities learning with each other - #ukedchat

ICTwitz 20:40Are school filters still an issue in developing digital studies?

#ukedchat

PhilWheeler1 20:40@ethinking this sounds like a semsible way forward #ukedchat

teachesict 20:40 @nightzookeeper @sharland @ictmagic @mbrayford flexibility is

the key but we must have enough ideas to be flexible #ukedchat

sharland 20:40

@DJToadie we need to be careful of edutainment though - key

words should be challenge and engagement i think #digitalstudies

#ukedchat

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John_Pallister 20:40

RT @chrisleach78: #ukedchat Still looking for people to declare an

interest in the #RethinkingICT day - sign up here -

http://t.co/2gbOrdIO (No commitment)

Heatherleatt 20:40

@Heatherleatt @teachesict @philwheeler1 @mraheard *upskill*!

But too many non-specialists still not confident to use effectively

#ukedchat

mattbritland 20:40RT @ethinking: #ukedchat kids take steps with code when theyNEED it - a blog is ok - then they see other better blogs and want to


ClaireJoanneICT 20:40 @OhLottie Hi there - digital literacy #ukedchat

GeorgeEBlack 20:40http://t.co/o8tnm1ju this is one of the most useful digital teaching

tools I know! #ukedchat

eyebeams 20:40 @ICTmagic @nightzookeeper They conspire to let then look as if

they are doing something - fine distinction #ukedchat

nightzookeeper 20:41 @ICTmagic yes I'm with you #ukedchat

sharland 20:41 @ICTwitz yes - we need to start relaxing control - already done at

my school where all social media except FB unblocked #ukedchat


@JazzieDe - how does anyone keep up to date? There is role for

specialiast but not at the cost of deskilling ordinary teachers

#ukedchat

DJToadie 20:41#ukedchat @ICTwitz we are weekly coming up with websites we

need taken off our LEA filter :(

chorbacha 20:41

RT @heartofsol: RT @sharland: @eyebeams @campbellhowes i

want pupils to have hack days as their form of assessment

#ukedchat #digitalstudies - Great idea!

largerama 20:41

RT @bevevans22: @PeterSpencer88 @largerama When lesson is

creative children are more likely to be engaged. This was my fave:

http://t.co/UGoXNL93 #ukedchat

eyebeams 20:41 @ethinking @PhilWheeler1 HTML5 and bring people together using

web native apps use a web native browser for a start #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:41 @sharland @DJToadie I always feel that having high expectations,

of all pupils regardless of ability, is important #ukedchat

PeterSpencer88 20:41 @largerama @TalkNQT ICT teaching on PGCE is often outdated and

irrelevant, with nothing about #digitalstudies #ukedchat

aangeli 20:41

RT @ukedchat: 8.30 Time Check for #ukedchat. Tonight with

@sharland talking about Digital Studies. Pop along if you've missed

the first half hour!

davidhunter 20:41

RT @andreacarr1: @davidhunter @MrAHeard Children can become

better readers and writers when tech/ict comes in. Engagement.

#ukedchat

mberry 20:41

@TalkNQT that requirement will be removed from the Teaching

Standards from Sept 1. As will all other mentions of technology.

#ukedchat

stuart_g_brown 20:41Thinking #digitalstudies is a great idea - adapting to the impact of

new media on society as whole #ukedchat

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chrisrat 20:41Aargh, really trying to do work, but #ukedchat is too beautiful (with

apols to Bugs Life)

ICTmagic 20:41 @sharland Yes, but does that need to be at national level or by the

child/parents/teacher who knows their skills/interests? #ukedchat

90_maz 20:41

RT @Heatherleatt: @Heatherleatt @teachesict @philwheeler1

@mraheard *upskill*! But too many non-specialists still notconfident to use effectively #ukedchat

heartofsol 20:41

@nightzookeeper #ukedchat education is always slow with tech.

Cant be avoided & cant keep up. Schools cant afford to take risk

with new tech

davidhunter 20:41

@mattbritland #ukedchat I Think the office packages can be learnt

quickly.Difficult to be efficient with thirty different level learners

tho

davidhunter 20:42 @PhilWheeler1 @eyebeams @MrAHeard #ukedchat me and class

blog.check my thoughts glovelearning.blogspot.com #quadbloggingTeacherToolkit 20:42 Digital chat #UKEdChat

jackieschneider 20:42@ICTwitz - YES! Who else here can't access youtube at school?

#ukedchat


4 my 5000 followers,friends #edtech20 #pln I made a monthly

#socialmedia #cuartion newsteller http://t.co/35wjwB7G #edchat

#ukedchat #edchat

eyebeams 20:42@sharland @ICTwitz Talk to @josepicardo about how his school.

uses FB In nearly all depts!!! #ukedchat

sharland 20:42

RT @bevevans22: @sharland @DJToadie I always feel that having

high expectations, of all pupils regardless of ability, is important

#ukedchat

coastforbob 20:42 @ICTwitz Absolutely. We are heavily restricted. Counting down the

days until we get our own internet stream #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:42@chrisrat is sucked into #ukedchat :-) How about this from a

commercial side Chris?

mrtrobins 20:42

@Heatherleatt @philwheeler1 @mraheard even specialists do at

times. When are teachers supposed to develop these new skills?

#ukedchat

theokk 20:43

@sharland Donald Clark argues for FB as everyone's on it

http://t.co/lCn7FAtq #ukedchat

PhilWheeler1 20:43 @jackieschneider @ICTwitz me #ukedchat

MattFothergill 20:43

#ukedchat Money needs to be provided for innovators in ICT

teaching (like you lot) to share their expertise and ideas for Digital

Studies.

sharland 20:43@ICTwitz @coastforbob it's part of the definition for

#digitalcitizenship strand i wrote #ukedchat

eyebeams 20:43@ICTmagic @jackieschneider The pupils should be making content

more than viewing it #ukedchat

GeorgeEBlack 20:43#ukedchat have to say I am lucky to have a liberal IT dept who allow

a lot to be open. A

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mrtrobins 20:43

@ICTwitz I think so, how can we teach responsible usage,

exploration and evaluation of new tech. when students cannot

access it? #ukedchat

DonnaComerford 20:43

RT @chrisleach78: #ukedchat Still looking for people to declare an

interest in the #RethinkingICT day - sign up here -

http://t.co/2gbOrdIO (No commitment)

ICTmagic 20:43RT @teachesict: @nightzookeeper @sharland @ictmagic@mbrayford flexibility is the key but we must have enough ideas to

be flexible #ukedchat

mberry 20:43

@ICTwitz The RS report that network managers were sometimes a

barrier for teaching coding. I suspect many would be glad to help.

#ukedchat

teachesict 20:43looking forward to reading the archive of tonights #ukedchat -

going fast!

ferrr80 20:43

teachers like most people struggle to cope with change and can feel

threatened by advances in technology staff need educating

#ukedchat

ICTmagic 20:43@jackieschneider Me. Well... the kids can't. Teachers can.

#ukedchat

ICTwitz 20:43

@coastforbob @sharland So, online safety has 2B an integral and

ongoing part of digital studies? #ukedchat Should we loosen up on

paranoia?

DJToadie 20:43#ukedchat @jackieschneider we're trying to get YouTube Schools

unblocked at least !!!

PhilWheeler1 20:43 @eyebeams @ethinking ok cheers #ukedchat

chorbacha 20:43@PhilWheeler1 @davidhunter @eyebeams @MrAHeard

??edmodo?? #ukedchat

teachesict 20:44

RT @mrtrobins: @ICTwitz I think so, how can we teach responsible

usage, exploration and evaluation of new tech. when students

cannot access it? #ukedchat

largerama 20:44

RT @sharland: @jackieschneider @Philip_Flood but we do need

specific lessons in the skills which go beyond subject usage

#ukedchat

mberry 20:44

RT @eyebeams: "@ICTmagic @jackieschneider The pupils should

be making content more than viewing it #ukedchat < yes, and

teachers too.

torresjesus 20:44

RT @Stephen_Logan: Have we considered what students want to


PhilWheeler1 20:44 @ICTmagic @jackieschneider only on one machine in the staffroom

not even on my machine in classroom. #ukedchat

mattbritland 20:44@jackieschneider @ICTwitz #ukedchat WE can, students cannot.

largerama 20:44 RT @MattFothergill: #ukedchat Money needs to be provided for

innovators in ICT teaching (like you lot) - Im waiting :)

sharland 20:44 @jackieschneider @Philip_Flood but we do need specific lessons inthe skills which go beyond subject usage #ukedchat

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GeorgeEBlack 20:44 #ukedchat and as a boarding school kids have access at certain

times to Facebook etc. This makes us more open to new tech.

eyebeams 20:44@chorbacha @PhilWheeler1 @davidhunter @MrAHeard Feree

private social network - give it a go ! #ukedchat

teachesict 20:44

@ICTwitz: So, online safety has 2B an integral and ongoing part

of digital studies? #ukedchat Should we loosen up on paranoia?


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susanbanister 20:45

@Heatherleatt @mrtrobins @philwheeler1 @mraheard True but I

think most teachers don't value it & think okay not to invest time!

#ukedchat

ICTmagic 20:45@eyebeams I agree, but not always practical at Primary. #ukedchat

eyebeams 20:45 @sharland @jackieschneider @Philip_Flood So we co-opt peoplefrom industry, parents the wider community #ukedchat

jackieschneider 20:45 @eyebeams @ICTmagic - obviously! We make videos in lesson hard

to share when vimeo & youtube are blocked #ukedchat

PeterSpencer88 20:45@jackieschneider @ICTwitz yep can't access it, I usually download

videos at home to use in class #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:45 15 minutes remain for #ukedchat this week.

SheliBB 20:46#ukedchat @mberry @coastforbob give a toddler an iPad and see

what they do ..

aangeli 20:46@chilledteaching aghh thanks. Twas lovely to see you too. I wasjust sorry I had to leave early - think we should have a ukedchat

social!

wildblu 20:46

RT @ethinking: #ukedchat kids take steps with code when they

NEED it - a blog is ok - then they see other better blogs and want to


Primary_Ed 20:46

Primary School Teaching & Technology, 15000 views exactly in one

year! The power of blogging. http://t.co/SkbovH1p #ukedchat

#edchat

ICTmagic 20:46@eyebeams But actually I do lots of videos/animation and

podcasting. #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:46

#ukedchat I've always felt that sharing good ideas was key to

development in ICT & beyond. That's why I have shared planning

etc #ukedchat

theokk 20:46@jackieschneider well there's YouTube Edu (for Schopols) now ; )

#ukedchat

mberry 20:46@ICTwitz I think that might be why some NM's are seen as a

barrier. From hacker to hacker. #ukedchat @georgeeblack

eyebeams 20:46 @ICTmagic :) #ukedchat

FreddieWM 20:46

Did you see @FreddieWM in the paper? What will #ict digital

studies hold for him in 5, 10 years? #ukedchat #natcurr

http://t.co/8hx4WJGE

Biolady99 20:46

RT @mberry: @ICTmagic coding is art, craft and science. I think

most teachers likely to take a craft approach. It's still a /creative/

thing. #ukedchat

DJToadie 20:46 #ukedchat @jackieschneider we make videos and now have a blog

to present them on http://t.co/5uSpcYxg is a good way forward

MattFothergill 20:46 @largerama Breath holding not advisable! #ukedchat

PhilWheeler1 20:46

RT @heartofsol: #ukedchat we need to teach kids both sides of ICT -

content & skills. Literacy teaches reading & writing. Not one or the

otherICTmagic 20:46 @eyebeams Or watch less YouTube. :) #ukedchat

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Heatherleatt 20:48

@PhilWheeler1 @mrtrobins @mraheard Some will put the time in,

if motivated. I did - self taught cos I loved it & believed in it

#ukedchat

jackieschneider 20:48 @eyebeams @mberry @sharland @ICTmagic - my young song

leaders make audio clips, how to vids, presentations #ukedchat

SheliBB 20:48#ukedchat @OhLottie @norfolkteacher1 oh yes! The trouble is,some teachers think that QCAs have to be covered.I try to find fun

alternatives

ICTmagic 20:48@eyebeams Got that going as well. My class 'experts' are forever

helping teachers other classes. #ukedchat

sharland 20:48@eyebeams yip - my pupils and I are learning javascript together

#ukedchat

ePaceonline 20:48@davidhunter #ukedchat have you come across eLearning

Foundation? They help with this.

bevevans22 20:49

@heartofsol Maybe some are unsure of how others will accept

their ideas. Confidence can be an issue. Ownership another one...#ukedchat

ClaireJoanneICT 20:49@jackieschneider That's true - it's more a skill than a separate

subject #ukedchat

sharland 20:49 so we factor #digitalleaders into #digitalstudies? #ukedchat

PhilWheeler1 20:49

RT @ICTwitz: digital studies to incorporate skills to build apps for

iPad/pod etc., and android? That would engage them at KS3/4!

#ukedchat

ICTwitz 20:49

@heartofsol If people are embarrassed about sharing, does that

mean that the resource is of poor quality for their students?

#ukedchat

eyebeams 20:49

@theokk: @jackieschneider I know it's easy to say - but you

need to keep gnawing and gnawing away #ukedchat Yes don't

give up

Peter_IT4Ed 20:49Another interesting blog from Alex Jones here http://t.co/nlhKz6Cm

#edtech #ukedchat

ICTmagic 20:49@sharland I would buy them myself it the hype is right!

#FingersCrossed #ukedchat

SheliBB 20:49 #ukedchat @OhLottie @eyebeams @mberry @sharland @ictmagic

@jackieschneider I'm going to use digital leaders to teach teachers!

jmanninen 20:49RT @mberry: @ICTmagic @eyebeams You Tube is for making, not

watching. #ukedchat

ePaceonline 20:49 @SheliBB #ukedchat ...probably able to do more than me!

ICTEvangelist 20:49@SheliBB @mberry @coastforbob ur not wrong. Amazed at what

my 2yo can do on an iPad #ukedchat

davidhunter 20:49#ukedchat film/editing a powerful tool to teach text structure,

dialogue etc.

eyebeams 20:49

RT @bevevans22: @sharland @eyebeams Often I would discover

something on Twitter and learn it alongside my pupils. Good to

support each other #ukedchat

theokk 20:49 @jackieschneider I know it's easy to say - but you need to keepgnawing and gnawing away #ukedchat

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susanbanister 20:49@SheliBB @OhLottie @norfolkteacher1 A lot of schools don't even

cover QCA! #ukedchat

Chrissy_Kelly 20:50this is the project I am working on at UAL, needs to be coming

through into school http://t.co/cVFBrB8l #ukedchat

ICTwitz 20:50 @PhilWheeler1 It's not rocket science! #ukedchat

ICTmagic 20:50@JazzieDe Better get cracking... or squeezing to continue the fruit

metaphor. #ukedchat

eyebeams 20:50@ICTwitz @heartofsol Then turn it into a lesrning opportunity and

get people to reflect on it #ukedchat

SheliBB 20:50

#ukedchat @bevevans22 @sharland @eyebeams I think it's really

important that teachers understand that they don't have to be the

expert

mattbritland 20:50#ukedchat I am losing track of all this. Great stuff though! Plus my

MacBook is running out of batteries!

sharland 20:50@bobharrisonset as a name or the concept? #ukedchat

#digitalstudies

Jon_Torbitt 20:50@sharland #digitalstudies #ukedchat need lobbying weight behindus to get exam boards onside > create good curriculum = valued

qualification

PhilWheeler1 20:50 @ICTwitz It would engage me too! #ukedchat

DJToadie 20:50#ukedchat @jackieschneider http://t.co/4Sk5ccL6 good for getting

audio clips out there

heartofsol 20:50

@wildblu #ukedchat Yes - that is the key. We must give kids a

reason to learn ICT. Must show them "the point". Make it relevant

to them

richardblaize 20:50

#ukedchat - With all this innovation and new technology being

taught, what about exam boards and the out of date

specs/moderators.

davidhunter 20:50

@ePaceonline: @davidhunter #ukedchat have you come across

eLearning Foundation? They help with this. Will check it out. Thanks

:)

bobharrisonset 20:50@sharland I am not sure "digital studies" does work Brian?

#ukedchat

PhilWheeler1 20:51

RT @SheliBB: #ukedchat @bevevans22 @sharland @eyebeams I

think it's really important that teachers understand that they don't

have to be the expert

bevevans22 20:51 @heartofsol True. Using something like autotrader or a fashion

retailer when looking at databases makes it real #ukedchat

theokk 20:51

RT @davidhunter: #ukedchat film/editing a powerful tool to teach

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ClaireJoanneICT 20:51 @TalkNQT I think it's got to be #ukedchat

HullEsteemLEP 20:51 @Stephen_Logan on a base level, practical application of literacy

and numeracy. Emails, spreadsheets, presentations. #ukedchat

eyebeams 20:51 RT @Chrissy_Kelly: this is the project I am working on at UAL, needs

to be coming through into school http://t.co/cVFBrB8l #ukedchat

GeorgeEBlack 20:51 @bevevans22 @sharland @eyebeams #ukedchat same here - if I

don't know I get them to find out and share it with the class.

HaudIgnota 20:51Thursday evenings might be my favourite on of the week!? :) First

#skolchatt and now catching up on #ukedchat. :)

PeterSpencer88 20:51@bevevans22 sharing resources and ideas is the only way we can

develop, I enjoy passing on ideas #ukedchat

jackieschneider 20:51I am not interested in ICT for its own sake - purely for how it allows

kis to become ACTIVE learners #ukedchat

teachesict 20:51 @MrWaldram try https://t.co/emK3O82c for whole #digitalstudiestable #ukedchat

dwsm 20:51

RT @heartofsol: @bevevans22 #ukedchat Great that you share. But

why do some teachers feel as though they cant share? ICT teachers

must lead the revolution!

ICTwitz 20:52RT @PhilWheeler1: @ICTwitz no I know but people see the apps

and think I can't #ukedchat

mjowchs 20:52 #ukedchat anyone come across http://t.co/aUGYjxWn apps for

good supported training to teach create apps for android

thisisliamm 20:52@ICTmagic We've had that with pupils training teacher / support

staff. #ukedchat

Chrissy_Kelly 20:52

RT @heartofsol: @bevevans22 #ukedchat Great that you share. But

why do some teachers feel as though they cant share? ICT teachers

must lead the revolution!

SheliBB 20:52

@ePaceonline lol! I had a wonderful time with a toddler last

Saturday. Saved a lot of trees using doodle art rather than paper!

#ukedchat

sharland 20:52

RT @largerama: #ukedchat if u wanna c great dig ldrs work then

check out mine http://t.co/Ykj5Tbqc & read/listen to their work

http://t.co/7VliaU8O

ZoeRoss19 20:52@bobharrisonset @sharland 'digital studies' sounds v like general

studies & could be seen as 'soft' option? #ukedchat

davidhunter 20:52 #ukedchat open source curriculum. We can lead it :)

eyebeams 20:52@Chrissy_Kelly You need to talk to educloud foundation Arie Wels

#ukedchat

heartofsol 20:52 #ukedchat Teachers of ICT - do not be concerned about learning ICT

*with* your pupils. It can only give them self-confidence!

largerama 20:52RT @davidhunter: #ukedchat film/editing a powerful tool to teach

text structure, dialogue etc.

teachesict 20:52RT @largerama: #ukedchat if u wanna c great dig ldrs work thencheck out mine http://t.co/Ykj5Tbqc & read/listen to their work

http://t.co/7VliaU8O

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nightzookeeper 20:52How will schools cope with the digital gap with more homework

and home learning going online? #ukedchat

Stephen_Logan 20:52

RT @HullEsteemLEP: @Stephen_Logan on a base level, practical

application of literacy and numeracy. Emails, spreadsheets,

presentations. #ukedchat

sharland 20:52

@Jon_Torbitt @mberry agreed bt i think we need to be bold and

press ahead with it - how many startup ceo's are examinedregularly? #ukedchat

HullEsteemLEP 20:53@Stephen_Logan Specific skills- databases, web design and social

media! Future proof skill. #ukedchat

mberry 20:53@Jon_Torbitt Have courage - teach well and exams become a mere

formality (well, maybe) @sharland #ukedchat

web20education 20:53 If you are #eTwinner join eSafety4eTwinning project for students

http://t.co/vNapxpVT #edtech20 #edchat #cpchat #ukedchat

DamienDeakes 20:53RT @thisisliamm: @ICTmagic We've had that with pupils training

teacher / support staff. #ukedchat

heartofsol 20:53@bevevans22 #ukedchat and if the staff are nervous about sharing,

how on earth are we going to get kids to share?

ICTmagic 20:53@thisisliamm How did the staff respond. I learn new things from

my class everyday... and tell them so. #ukedchat

eyebeams 20:53@sharland @ZoeRoss19 @bobharrisonset You need a "harder"

name for it :) #ukedchat

ukedchat 20:53@chrisrat Maybe HUGE gaps for industry to help support

schools/education in this then?

SheliBB 20:53

#ukedchat @susanbanister @ohlottie @norfolkteacher1 poor ICT

usually comes from low confidence,from lack of training, from lack

of funding.

sharland 20:53 RT @largerama: @davidhunter #ukedchat open source curriculum.

We can lead it :) - but worry is how many will not follow?

ePaceonline 20:53

@SheliBB #ukedchat, we saw some great digital leaders at

#Kidsmeet Blackpool, more than capable of teaching and leading

learning

largerama 20:53RT @TeacherToolkit: ICT should be redesigned to distinguish:

sharland 20:53

@ZoeRoss19 @bobharrisonset good point - the strands therefore

need to be shown to be V rigourous especially media and

technology #ukedchat

chrisrat 20:53

@ukedchat not a huge amount. think the freedom of the

curriculum is a good thing for teachers. As always, wish there was

more CPD #ukedchat

TeacherToolkit 20:53 ICT should be redesigned to distinguish:

largerama 20:53@davidhunter #ukedchat open source curriculum. We can lead it :) -

but worry is how many will not follow?

teachesict 20:53RT @davidhunter: #ukedchat open source curriculum. We can lead

it :)

Jon_Torbitt 20:54@TeacherToolkit needs a multi-level qualification > ComputerStudies with specialisms (web/networking/computing)

#digitalstudies #ukedchat

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eyebeams 20:54

RT @bevevans22: @heartofsol I think children are more open to

the idea of sharing and collaborating on projects than many adults

#ukedchat

GeorgeEBlack 20:54@ZoeRoss19 @bobharrisonset @sharland #ukedchat how about

'digital Literacy' and 'digital science'

sharland 20:54 @ukedchat @ChrisRat i think we may have to accept that industryis going to become involved - but we must set the pace #ukedchat

DamienDeakes 20:54RT @ukedchat: If you're new to #ukedchat this evening, try

twitterfall.com to help you keep up to date with the pace!

JazzieDe 20:54 @ICTmagic If it will improve learning I will don't think my bb

essential love photopeach used for first time recently! #ukedchat

bevevans22 20:54 @heartofsol I think children are more open to the idea of sharing

and collaborating on projects than many adults #ukedchat

davidhunter 20:54 @largerama #ukedchat skills among teachers is worryingly low ingeneral. Could be a generational change :(

eyebeams 20:54 @sharland @Jon_Torbitt @jazziede Lookup iZOnes in New YOrk for

completely different culture and metrics #ukedchat

craftyslh 20:54

RT @ethinking: #ukedchat @ePaceonline prensky wrote about it -

he abandoned digital natives in favour of digital wisdom

http://t.co/ZbkOuUBW

theokk 20:54 . @ZoeRoss19 @bobharrisonset @sharland @ZoeRoss19 thats why

need to show practical outcomes designthinking #ukedchat

ICTmagic 20:54@normal_for_jp Especially in Primary. Primary teachers are not

always specialists. #ukedchat

SheliBB 20:54 @ICTmagic: @SheliBB Would be interesting to do a reverse

Kidsmeet with Pupils showing teachers. #ukedchat> fab idea!

web20education 20:54 RT @ICTmagic: How did the staff respond. I learn new things from

my class everyday... and tell them so. #ukedchat

NicolePonsford 20:54#ukedchat is it time to start thinking about importance of digital

multimedia rather than IT?

JOHNSAYERS 20:54Ahhhhhh missed #ukedchat last 5 mins will try and tweet

something

mattbritland 20:54

@heartofsol #ukedchat Agreed. I have a year 7 students who

started tea

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